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vapid ridge
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understandable 🙂

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i still use EP material for all my materials even weapons lol

delicate dove
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i mean, can only make so many stock master materials.

vapid ridge
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100%

delicate dove
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and everyone and their mom models their stuff differently, so hard to make something that works for everything

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vert color, uv channels, masks, yada

vapid ridge
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and no one wants to fix the texel density for each object. lol

delicate dove
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that said, for some reason people really like to overcomplicate their master materials. stares at archviz packs

vapid ridge
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yeah.. i have one of those spaghetti monsters.

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still the best ever for master mats 🙂

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i just plug and played like 50+ material functions into it

delicate dove
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not a fan of that one myself, but i am fairly ocd

vapid ridge
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which master material do you recommend?

delicate dove
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i always make my own, so hard to say

vapid ridge
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im a blueprint guru, i have no idea how to actually create anything when it comes to material wise. that's a whole different catagory

delicate dove
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but the gist of it is:
anything that an artist can touch should be stupid simple, they tend to bloat instances by carelessly changing static switches and what not, resulting in bloating of file-size. only a tech artist/lead should be allowed to change static switches.

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in fact, be best if they are only allowed to replace textures :p

vapid ridge
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you might actually be correct. i might have to look into this. with megascans and ep, i do seem to be using more of my gpu than normal.

delicate dove
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(in team/studio productions)

runic edge
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thank you very much!

ebon leaf
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hello marketplace goers! if you use the marketplace often, especially if your a seller, we would love to get your opinion on a new channel, if your interested, go to the feedback channel and look for (CHANNEL REQUEST) Marketplace asset requests, if you feel it would make a good addition, upvote it, if you feel its unnecessary, please explain why in the comments!

digital falcon
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Hey! How are licenses for using marketplace assets in another engine (like Unity). I understand bought assets can be used anywhere, but what about assets that are free for a month, and such?

delicate dove
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unless its epic/quixel content, user-made content is fine to use in other engines

digital falcon
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ok, so even if it is free? Nice. Thanks.

lucid osprey
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i think its what luos said.

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look if the content was made by epic

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that content specificly has a different license

digital falcon
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ok, thank you for the response. I've been looking for any info about this in the license text and forums, but basically only find what you say, ok to use unless it's by epic.

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a bit surprised that epic actually lets free marketplace stuff be used freely, as I assume they pay the ones who made it.

delicate dove
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they do pay them a static amount

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the marketplace eula explains the licensing btw

lucid osprey
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its only for that month either

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if you dont get it in that month... its over

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and everyone who gets it, has it forever ofc.

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its also not always that profitable

delicate dove
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hmm, seems they changed the rules pge again, quite unclear now

lucid osprey
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as long as they dont deny you entry again XD

delicate dove
delicate dove
digital falcon
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thanks! Let me see here..

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"All content hosted by Epic Games is exclusively downloadable through the Epic Games Launcher. Once downloaded, most content can be exported to obtain the source files and/or migrated to other existing Unreal Engine projects." hmm a bit unclear in the guidelines, but yeah, in the link above then they say that it can be used in other engines. And not really any specific info if it's free or not.

delicate dove
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be hard to follow that rule if there was hehe, no indication what content you got for free and what not

digital falcon
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yeah, that's true

delicate dove
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and over the years, that amount accumulated quite a bit

chrome cove
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anywhere i can still get this?

delicate dove
fiery hawk
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Is it possible to do something like this ?

Let's say I create an asset / plugin / tool divided into multiple components (each component does something specific) and put it in the marketplace and give the choice to the users to either :

  • Pay once (let's say 1000$) and you receive the tool and also every update in the futur adding more components to that tool
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  • Pay each component individually (Let's say $10) which at the end could make buying items cheaper but buying all of them will be more expensive.

My question is this : Is it possible if let's say someone bought already 5 components (so $10 x 5 =$50) if he wants to switch to the full pack (so $1000) to have everything, make him pay not $1000 but $1000 - $50 (the $50 he already paid) = $950 for the full pack. Like it would be unfair to make him pay twice for the 5 components he already bought.

I don't know if it's possible to do that with unreal marketplace, if yes how please ?

Please ping me if any answer 🙂

vale prawn
half mist
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so try and ask

fiery hawk
half mist
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just ask epic

fiery hawk
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Do you have example of people who already did that with the marketplace ? 🤔

half mist
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I literally don't remember which pack it was

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but it's not automatic

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I found it

modern perch
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I don't think that's what Diversity was asking about at all - this is a deprecated product that no longer works in new engine versions because of engine changes

graceful arrow
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raven anchor
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is there any specific time that's best for publishing to the marketplace?

delicate dove
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not afaik, stuff is being added constantly

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posting new stuff on social media is best when the euro people are awake, and again for the US, and other continents

open rock
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If I post tutorial videos on YouTube does that count as documentation?

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I guess I should write how all this works, though.

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Second question can I just put the documentation on dropbox?

half mist
scarlet mountain
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scarlet mountain
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Dropbox does that too tho

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So, yeah, it's just personal preference

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Not some marketplace guideline

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Was just curious, that's all

half mist
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Mmm

ebon leaf
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Hey guys, im a marketplace seller, and I was wondering what I should make next. Instead of randomly picking one, Im interested to see what the community would want, so let me know if you would buy, or be interested in buying, any of the following systems by replying to this message with a number. However, if you have an additional suggestion, that isnt on the list but you would want to see on the marketplace (blueprint system, I dont do visual stuff like characters, animations, or modular building packs), feel free to reply with your idea! Anyways here are my ideas:

  1. Multiplayer Replicated Magnetic Pickup Component
  2. Matching Game (Match 3) Template
  3. Audio Visualizer (particle)
  4. Timers Statistics (Total Time Played, Session Time played, Level Time Played, etc.)
  5. Flies that rotate around a point (particle)
  6. Racing AI
  7. Usable Instruments
  8. Positional Voice Chat
  9. Road/Path grid-based snapping
  10. In-Game Scripting System
  11. Idle Building Game Template
  12. Spline-based road/path creation tool
  13. Runtime Mesh Generation/Editing
meager compass
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what is the website that is able to sort marketplace assets?

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I remember there is one where you can sort by stars

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nvm, found it in message pins

lucid osprey
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Orbital

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Market

vivid tide
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Anybody have experience with marketplace packs that they have previously purchased, now becoming "unavailable" and also not showing in the Vault?

delicate dove
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if you ever purchased them, they should be available, but sometimes the vault spazzed out, or a filter is still active.
even if they are no longer available (for whatever reason) if you purchased them, you should be able to redownload them.
Sometimes its best to check the browser version instead of the launcher version of the marketplace as well

vivid tide
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Filter is definitely off. If I go to the webpage, it says "open in launcher" - I go to the launcher and it says "unavailable". It's not showing in my vault

graceful arrow
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Only other time is when a product is removed from the marketplace due to .. issues.

vivid tide
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It's been recently updated for 5.0, so I doubt it's unavailable. I bought this when it first came out, talking 4.6/4.7 days, so many years ago

delicate dove
vivid tide
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If I sign out of my account, the webpage says "Sign in to Buy"

delicate dove
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was one of the first packs I ever purchased XD

vivid tide
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Yeah. Says same thing for me. I go to open it in the launcher and it says "unavailable".

delicate dove
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and also available in my vault

vivid tide
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It does the same with another pack, but that one at least shows in my vault

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ffs

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Launcher view looks like this for me

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delicate dove
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sometimes the launcher gets stuck, giving it time might help. but yea, frustrating

vivid tide
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Utter POS

delicate dove
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no comment

vivid tide
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Launcher is far and above the worst component of the UE ecosystem

delicate dove
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no comment :p

slow plume
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Lol smart

graceful arrow
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No one is likely to try and defend it.. that's for sure 😄

vivid tide
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Will contact support.. see what they say

delicate dove
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I do hope that the launcher gets a do-over

slow plume
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Yeah it's long overdue, I get some other big priorities but...

graceful arrow
vale prawn
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From the Trello:

We’re completely overhauling the Unreal Engine experience to bring it more in line with the rest of the launcher. Expect this to be a slow development with multiple phased roll outs.
It's in the "Up Next" section since january 2021, so 🤷‍♂️

delicate dove
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SOONTM :p

graceful arrow
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™

thorny compass
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"In line with the rest of the launcher"...

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Scary

half mist
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the rest of the launcher is.. just as bad??

frozen bear
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Im confused. I had 6 sales from the marketplace and Just got paid . but looking at my sales now it says 5 sales . where did the 6th go? I sell stuff on artstation too and the sales info it super good Even tells you how many people viewed items and put them in the basket,. But On unreal Its so poor and basic and doesnt even tell me if items were refunded ?

hollow zephyr
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I guess you had one sale in one month and 5 in another? The sales report only shows last 2 months I think, not three

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Refunds are not automatic, you have to approve them

hasty nexus
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It happens sometimes that a purchase is made with a stolen card and in this case you don't approve anything

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and today the report just updated, it shows from 1st September

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yesterday it was showing from 1st august

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so this could be also why you see something else

lucid osprey
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on tuesday we get the new free assets

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:3

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i cant wait

young halo
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Hey there... What do I have to know if I wanna sell models on the marketplace?

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I'm looking to get some income and gain experience at the same time

graceful arrow
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The marketplace terms and conditions, at a minimum.

winter hollow
# vivid tide Launcher view looks like this for me

i think i have same thing with some plugins in my vault. even after installing required engines they still were not available.
Thats why i want a DOWNLOAD button instead of waiting for four hours for matching engine to download

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for this reason i kept seven different engines (with minimal download options) just to be able to download things

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too much wasted space

young halo
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How can I name my store this is so hard wtf

lucid osprey
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youre store?

ebon leaf
vapid ridge
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Was thinking about something today... Why does the marketplace not have a rule about assets placements in the content folder? People like me hate moving these models and everything around and I HATE having things in the content folder...Then I got to do a advanced migrate. Why does the marketplace not have a standard, where all creators are forced to put in "Content/Assets/Marketplace/" Then there content there? or something along those lines.

hasty nexus
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they mention that the assets must be placed in a top folder under Content folder

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Looks like the problem is that not everyone follows the guidelines and they're not enforced either

next badge
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hey guys have anyone got this before?when i package the plugin,i got build successful but when MP team gets it,they got this

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dire meteor
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It'd help if the actual full lines were visible.

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And you copied+pasted them here.

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LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'd:\build\U5M-Marketplace\Sync\LocalBuilds\PluginTemp\HostProject\Plugins\CreationArtTools\Binaries\Win64\UnrealEditor-CreationArtTools.dll'
Error executing C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\BuildTools\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.29.30133\bin\HostX64\x64\link.exe (tool returned code: 1104)
[14/15] UnrealEditor-CreationArtToolsEditor.dll (0:00.34 at +0:56)
LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'd:\build\U5M-Marketplace\Sync\LocalBuilds\PluginTemp\HostProject\Plugins\CreationArtTools\Binaries\Win64\UnrealEditor-CreationArtToolsEditor.dll'
Error executing C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\BuildT
dire meteor
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Did they try to build while the editor was open?

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i honestly dont know

dire meteor
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Unable to open file means it's been locked by something else, like the editor, or something like no permissions to write to/open the file.

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The former is 99.999% of all cases.

next badge
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hmmm let me email them again

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and thank you for the help btw

dire meteor
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Np

vapid ridge
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lol

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make your project a c++ project

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add plugin to your project.

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compile in vs.

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problem solved.

dire meteor
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Or that!

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i think its from MP team end

dire meteor
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99.998% then.

next badge
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mine works just fine

dire meteor
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I assume the hostproject is a cpp project?

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It has a Source folder and cpp files?

next badge
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yep mine was when i tested that

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idk about MP

dire meteor
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They might be missing those files?

vapid ridge
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its trying to read a .dll thats not included in your project.

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i swear just do what i said

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it should fix that

vapid ridge
next badge
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Marketplace folder when i tested that

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using the launcher 5.0.3

vapid ridge
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yes. dont do that.

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add to your project

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under Plugins/Marketplacepluginhere

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okay

vapid ridge
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example

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if that does not work.

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you need to add a little c++

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you can do this by doing this;

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save project, create and open the c++ file of your game, you can now delete that c++ class. Compile

young halo
oblique bone
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why i get We could not confirm your purchase at this time. Please try again later.

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when i try to purchase something

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We are experience high transaction volume, please try again later.

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to much people download stuff|?

delicate dove
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iunno, if anything I'd expect that tomorrow

scarlet mountain
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may be doing maintenance in prep

ebon leaf
oblique bone
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is there a way just download the files

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not entiry project creating

open rock
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If I include some things from starter content in my marketplace submission, should I just move them out of the starter content folder and into the regular texture/material etc folder?

delicate dove
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I generally put them in a "preview content" folder

scarlet mountain
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Doesn't mp guidelines say everything must reside in a subfolder named after your product?

delicate dove
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it does

open rock
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Yeah but you can't use a folder named starter content

graceful arrow
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Many use variations of "Epic Content" for a folder name.

open rock
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Unreal says I have to provide a document that will allow a new user to "incorporate" my project into their projects and I don't understand. I can't even do that. It's a whole game.

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A new user can take my framework, buy cheap graphics and sounds online, or use kenneys stuff even, and make an entire game without ever touching a blueprint node. And package it for multiple platforms.

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An entire game. Hours long.

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Even infinitely long lol

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It ain't no runner

ember hill
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Sounds like something that can be sold on Steam as sandbox game

open rock
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I should just make and publish about 100 android games with it

lucid osprey
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sound like a mobile nightmare

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is that even a proper game XD

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lol

open rock
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Android screenshots

vapid ridge
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Unreal Engine Marketplace should open up a Meta Human Clothing store, where you can search clothing pieces and not full character packs.

short grail
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I'm looking for something of a recommendation for a prototype I want to throw together. I need to make a small-ish planet (probably no larger than 100km in diameter, but would like something that can support larger.) I need players to be able to circumnavigate said planet smoothly and have gravity applied properly as they traverse the spherical world by land, sea and air.

Before I try to make such a thing myself, I wanted to see if there was anything on the marketplace someone has used before they could recommend for this prototype so I can focus my efforts on other systems.

sage cave
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Hi everyone, I'm curious about what's the meaning of Net Units?
Is that means the times for individual download? Or it won't count if it's individual or not? Just download for the plugin? Thanks!

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Do we have other metrics could show for like how many visits for plugin like funnel instead of Net Units?

modern perch
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what's the context?

marsh bluff
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free of the month changes today right?

scarlet mountain
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yeah in like 6 hours or something

marsh bluff
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Alright, thank you

thorny vault
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Hey hey, I asked this last month, but now it's a new month and the same issue has cropped up again.

What do you guys use for verifications when doing bookkeeping?

Here in Sweden at least (and from what I understand, it's the same in all of Europe) companies are required to provide verification documents on all incoming payments. Normally, this means receipts.

But Epic/Hyperwallet doesn't provide any receipts that would be valid with the regulations.

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It's honestly really weird that such large companies don't follow those regulations, and also really weird that it seems I am almost the only one who asks about this issue

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If the taxman comes down on me and asks where I got my income from, I can't point to any receipts and say "from here". I don't know how much of a fine I'd get, but it's probably not good.

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When asking Epic about it, the response I got was
The only payout documentation currently available to Marketplace sellers is the payout and payment reports. These can be found by logging into your seller portal and going to your reports tab, and the payout report can be exported as a PDF for records.

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But I've checked, and it doesn't have enough information there to be valid

scarlet mountain
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What information are you missing? Does hyperwallet include any additional info? Are you expecting receipts for each sale? As I don't think that's how it works. Epic buys from you, epic sells licence to customer. So epic buys X units from you

modern perch
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Incoming payment details are pretty standard worldwide, not just in Europe, and it's used for all kinds of things - since you don't sell directly to Epic and aren't sending them invoices etc, you expect to receive an IPD of some sort, notifying you of an incoming payment that you did not request or were expecting

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Problem being, that Epic doesn't send them, funds just turn up in your account and you can't directly attribute them to anything

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which potentially causes problems with taxing etc, because you can't prove it isn't fraud

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the marketplace has a lot of problems when it comes to compliancy with various tax laws on both the seller / buyer side and generally speaking from a business perspective I tend to advise avoiding it entirely

thorny vault
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@scarlet mountain Actually I checked the pdf they mentioned and it might be enough. It doesn't have a payout date but it does specify the period so I hope that's gonna be okay

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Generally the info needed is From Company, To Company, Amount, Date, Unique Identifier

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an unique identifier (like invoice number) is missing too, but oh well, better than nothing

hasty nexus
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the invoice is used by accountant when she files everything

thorny vault
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Ah I'm not familiar with the buying side of things, I just sell 😋

hasty nexus
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i don't send it to epic because they don't care about my invoicing

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just contact an accountant and hire as well. don't waste time end energy on something that you don't understand and you don't have to.

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so if i sell 5 units on the marketplace and the product is 100 dollars. i just invoice Epic for 440 dollars or whatever amount they send for that month and send the invoice to the accountant and that's it.

modern perch
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I'm not sure that would work here at all

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that's an invoice you don't send out, after you receive a payout

hasty nexus
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yeah, that's what i said, depends on the country

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in Romania, EU that's how i do it. it was suggested by the accountant and it worked out fine. Never had problems with taxes or with anything

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in the end, the government wants to make sure it gets its cut. So as long as money are declared you're going to be just fine probably in most countries. But better contact professionals, i wouldn't google these answers and I would just let someone that does this for a living to give the answers

modern perch
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my favourite is when you go from your vault to an item page, hitting 'back' takes you to the main marketplace page

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tame compass
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If only market names longer to 35 word my life is easier

delicate dove
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ikr XD

ember hill
lucid osprey
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the free content this month is so bad

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i love it.

scarlet mountain
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🤨 It isn't that bad. It's clearly themed, and isn't useful to everyone, but you could do a fine halloween project with those assets. We've just been spoiled by some insane giveaways in the past

lucid osprey
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no thats not what i meant 😄

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i get the halloween theme yes

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but nearly all 5 assets are really niche

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ebon leaf
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Asset Pack is for integration of projects

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Complete Projects are to be built on

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If it is a complete project, you dont have to have integration instructions (as its not built for integration), but you should have some sort of documentation, and if you have complex blueprints, epic will turn down your submission if it doesnt have documentation

open rock
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Implement this product into their own projects is very confusing text

ebon leaf
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yeah, maybe thats just a copy and paste thing? ive never gotten anything back by replying to their emails, so maybe try directly emailing support about it?

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also im nowhere near that fancy, i just type up a few pages of a google doc

open rock
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I am just gonna do some video tutorials and see what they say. Very beginner friendly. The kit is extremely easy to use, but complex to build on

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That may be why they demand specifics.

ebon leaf
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maybe thats what they mean, ive never posted an asset without a video, so i wouldnt know

open rock
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We'll see. Thanks for the info

trim ice
echo egret
# lucid osprey the free content this month is so bad

In another server I said my thing about that and I've been accused of s°°°ting on free given content... I wouldn't be surprised if I received a ban for that. Dunno if anybody's interested to know my words about these Free For The Month October edition... if not you can jump off that comment below to skip it, because now I'm too curious to see if my words fall into the same misunderstanding in this server too.

The comment of mine I mention is the following:

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"I just saw the Free For The Month for October... I cannot imagine a worse FFTM than this. C'mon... I understand it's Halloween's month but.... seriously? Fantasy creatures which can't scare a baby? Halloween pumpkins lamps?!? Another zombie animations pack!?? Even the Advanced AI Spawn System looks like a weak asset, especially due to the inconsistency of the first two I mentioned. Luckily there is the 4 IN 1 Modular Research Facility / Mega Bundle that truly saves the month despite the fact I probably won't find it useful for none of my projects anyway but can still be a great resource for materials and other interesting stuff.
Anyway... I get it.... the new Permanently Free Collection's asset, the self-proclaimed FANTASTIC - Village Pack, does explain the choice made for this month, the "friendly funny" creatures of the Undead Pack and the pumpkins and zombie animations are meant to work well together with that asset.... but... ain't the whole bunch of assets slightly off balance in favour of the Halloween theme!? Those animations were also used in an officially released game making their use quite useless at that point.
I'm so disappointed..... I didn't wait so patiently for such an ultimate delusion. If they really wanted a horror based Free For The Month they could give away one of the amazing bundles by Stigma Studios {now on sale at least and highly recommended, if there was really any need of my recommendation!} or one of the packs of phenomenal horror character made by Kopiko {I own Daughters's modular character and is one of the best purchases I made on the marketplace, together with I.L.A.P's Vintage SciFi series, so far!}.
So... at the end of the day, I'd love yours comments. on these assets, while we're all waiting for °°°°'s very next video about them. Cheers!"

Were I really that brutal, in my honest comment {not a review!!!}!??

lucid osprey
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a server which bans you for having an opinion is a shit server in general.

echo egret
delicate dove
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depends on the opinion :p

lucid osprey
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yes luos

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ill behave

echo egret
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I wasn't happy with the assets given away this month but that doesn't mean they are not very useful for somebody else, and I believe my comment pointed that out. Giving an criticism on something doesn't necessarily involve a lack of appreciation on what we have criticized. I found out my mom is a damn classist but I still love my mom, despite she really is that classist indeed!
Anyway... as a second thought, once extinguished the burning delusion, I looked at those assets I didn't like much more carefully and I must say it.... are actually far less bad than I thought they are... the non-spooky undeads can actually be entirely reworked {remodelling them, enriching the materials with less lowpoly plain gradient in favour of super realistic PBR textures...} and turn into very scary characters indeed. The animations set yes.... is another zombie-based animset and yes I do hate zombies {I prefer deformed demons from hell, aliens, rebel robots and cyborgs... even insane clowns would have been better than zombies... I won't ever fully understand this fascination with zombies when we've got vampires ─ kudos to whoever is gonna spot where my "fascination with vampires" reference comes from!!!} **but ** there are a few things there which make that animset particularly interesting instead if changed them accordingly to the wanted result. At the end of the day it is another interesting "Free For The Month", even if I won't use them aside the AI Spawner system and the 4 in 1 bundle which are the very best of the month, so kudos to Epic!

modern perch
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It's not the opinion that gets you banned, it's how you express it

echo egret
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I wasn't banned {I didn't say I was} and I didn't complain for the reception my opinion had, their opinion is not lesser important and acceptable than mine or than any other. We aren't talking about opinions on civil and human rights after all.

In any case yeah, I agree with you on the fact the way an opinion is expressed counts more than the opinion itself, at least as demonstrated by the way people usually tend to look at our pointed finger instead of looking at the moon we're trying to lead their attention to.

hollow zephyr
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That comes off entitled...like you can buy whatever you need, no need to complain on the free stuff. Download it or not and that's it 😅

ember hill
fossil quest
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what kind of stylized assets are most required at the moment on marketplace?

hasty nexus
toxic merlin
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Does anyone can use a marketplace asset to their commercial game? Do they need permission from the creator or just buying the assets means you are good enough to use it? Any advice

scarlet mountain
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Yes, you can use marketplace assets commercially

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you just can't sell them as an asset (source form), they need to be used in a larger work, such as a game or video

ember hill
toxic merlin
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Does anyone can suggest some of the good photo realistic open world assets to look into?

vivid tulip
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Most of us may be westerners but there is a serious lack of quality anime style assets.

I'm thinking anime babes, and the world they'd fit in.

ember hill
ebon leaf
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hey guys, im a seller on the marketplace, and im trying to get my product sold, but I get failed on this one thing "All epic related content must be in a demo folder directly under your pack folder". I dont get why im failed on this, in my content folder, there is the folder that is named after the asset, and in that, there is folder for the actual asset (which only contains 3 bp components, no epic content) and a Showcase folder (which contains epic content), what am i doing wrong?

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delicate dove
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can you show us the folder structure in its entirety?

ebon leaf
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ill send when i get home

delicate dove
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haha, i saw that in realtime

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yea no worries, im afk-ish anyways

ebon leaf
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all thats in the first Blueprints folder under the main folder is 3 bp components, which is the asset content, and the Showcase folder is a showcase using these components, which is the top down template with my asset added. In the showcase folder, the character folder is completely epic content, the meshes is some epic content (basic cube and plane) and some custom meshes I made to showcase. Widgets is a widget i made, levels is the top down level with a few actors added, materials folder is the basic epic material, and then some for the custom meshes. Blueprints has the top down character and gamemode (epic content, character has some edits), with a controller and a few actors i made, one for each custom mesh.

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do i need to seperate all epic content into a seperate folder in the showcase folder? little confused bc the showcase is the demo folder.

delicate dove
# ebon leaf

dont see much wrong. you could merge some of the folders perhaps, so theres one for textures, one for materials, but... at a first glance it looks fine

graceful arrow
ebon leaf
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can I name it "Epic Content"?

graceful arrow
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yup, thats good

ebon leaf
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alr thanks

graceful arrow
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Basically they like it to be super obvious what is yours and what is theirs.

ebon leaf
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yeah, its odd though because ive posted a few assets already, each including the same showcase folder structure, with some of their assets and mine, and it hasnt set off any red flags before

graceful arrow
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There is a certain about of erm.. variable standards applied.

agile shadow
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anyone here have any experience with dealing with copycats? Is it even worth going to Epic about this?

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is clearly a rip-off our our Meadows pack

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even down to the name

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but since obviously they don't steal any of our assets ( I think, I won't buy it to find out)

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not sure if Epic will do anything about it

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they even copied the demo scene :/

lucid osprey
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are you sure its a rip off?

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or just plagarism?

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did they steal any assets?

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do you have proof?

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did you test out the assets?

agile shadow
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sure plagiarism then

lucid osprey
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you can try ofc

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write them an email under piracy

agile shadow
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though rip-off does not necessarily mean stealing

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plagiarizing fits as well I think

lucid osprey
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ha

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maybe their asset is better...

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and epic will target you instead

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and remove your project

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who knows.

agile shadow
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ok

lucid osprey
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so you better get some more evidence

agile shadow
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that's not how it works though

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anyway

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just curios if anyone dealt with this before

lucid osprey
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oh alot

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i remember cases like this from the past

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i bet luos can tell some stories

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tell epic about your concerns.

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and they will handle it

hollow zephyr
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I think the literally ripped off mask from CoD is still online...so...

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Don't think is worth doing anything here

agile shadow
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Yea I don't expect much out of this tbh

hollow zephyr
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Also I feel there is no need to worry about copycats, because it will always happen and you will have the advantage of quality that shows from screenshots, better presentation, etc. If someone is just copying they will be after a quick buck that I doubt happens in the MP's case with all the better content it has

agile shadow
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I don't believe they are particularly successful, but still, I'd like to see at least SOME quality control on what goes in the MP

vale prawn
agile shadow
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All their existing assets are copies of another one(some ours, some we recognize from other vendors).

agile shadow
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they're geting bolder is what I want to say

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who knows what's next

half mist
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can't really tell how it's a copy tbh

agile shadow
half mist
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well I can see that it's similar

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I'm just saying that as a customer, I bookmarked that asset pack and hope it doesn't get removed cuz I like it and might buy it

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🤷‍♂️

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I get how it might be annoying, but as long as ur assets weren't directly used in production, Idk if u have a case

agile shadow
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Well let's see what Epic says. What's the limit on how much you can copy someone else before it's considered too much?

half mist
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I don't know. but if I were in ur shoes I would prob try to take it down too 🤷‍♂️

graceful arrow
agile shadow
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Sure, but then again, where is that limit for inspiration? I'd argue they crossed it in this case. I've contacted Epic. They said they'll investigate. I don't expect much will happen but we'll have to wait and see

hollow zephyr
delicate dove
agile shadow
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@delicate dove That explains the sudden influx of "ghibli" style trees that are all from exactly one tutorial. I always found it odd, but this explains it

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Why the hell would they remove that rule? Figured there wasn't enough low effot content on the marketplace? It just needed more?

ember hill
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And here I thought UE marketplace is more strict than the likes of Gumroad

half mist
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Hi

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Do marketplace authors get an email notification when I review their product?

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Do marketplace authors get an email notification when I post a question on their product?

delicate dove
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yes, but --generally-- at the end of the day.

half mist
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ok

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thx

ebon leaf
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you can change in the email settings

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theres quite a few settings, i basically have it to email me about everything

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half mist
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I was more so asking it as a customer, not a seller

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I hope those are all enabled by default 😅

ebon leaf
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cant remember which ones arent default, but I dont think reviews are

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i know this one wasnt

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half mist
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Oh.

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Yea, Idk, I was getting the feeling that a lot of times I just get ignored there.

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so funny how that's supposed to be for support, but the authors don't get automatically notified

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lol

ebon leaf
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either way, I check each of my products questions and reviews every day, as sellers should do

half mist
ebon leaf
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I've gotten questions once every couple of days for a few weeks

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either way turning on email notifications is best practice

half mist
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rip

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sounds like an epic thing

crude cliff
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Hi all, is there a tool to help with browsing the marketplace to find high quality assets?

ember hill
thorny compass
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At least an way to have a personal blacklist stonks

thorny compass
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HowTo?

modern perch
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kinda, but also not really - you can remove entries you don't want to see, but it's only a marginal improvement if you're trying to hide a flood from one or two authors that take up entire pages of results

grim musk
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If you look at the 2D Assets in marketplace, it seems to be nothing but people selling 'art' generated with Midjourney. It's really bad

ember hill
vale prawn
modern perch
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the 2d category is dead

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pages upon pages of this

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ember hill
modern perch
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no idea

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but they've pushed 70-80 of those 'icons' packs in the past couple of months

ember hill
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No wonder I had deja vu

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Sleazy motherlovers, flooding the marketplace with AI gen stuff and making money in the process with them as is

modern perch
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figures

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FWIW, I'm not actually sure Midjourney and other diffusion based art generation is actually allowed on the Marketplace per it's terms

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would need to check, but you can't hold a copyright on generated images like those

thorny compass
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afaik, you own the generated art.

modern perch
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nope

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in the US at least, you do not

thorny compass
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hmm... someone said so, that I remember, but you might be correct.

modern perch
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there has been a court ruling on it and it makes sense - since no human was involved, there's no creative work to protect, ergo, no copyright

thorny compass
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One can argue if it is based on real art. Basically, a form of digestion.

modern perch
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in theory it could fall under a derivative work

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but there's still no human involved in the generated image so it's still sketchy

thorny compass
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So, you are saying, that nobody can own actually these pics on the MP?

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Or say, the pics themselves, probably it is another matter the products itself. A pack of images, sometimes, with added decorations.

modern perch
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correct - nobody can assert ownership of it

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at least under US copyright law - other jurisdictions may vary

thorny compass
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In any case, Epic might want to add a clause about that topic.

modern perch
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"You represent and warrant that you have all intellectual property rights necessary for you to grant Epic the rights set forth in this Agreement, including all necessary patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, or other proprietary rights, in and to your Content. If third-party materials are included in the Content, you represent and warrant that you have the right to distribute the third-party material in the Content."

I guess it could be allowed under that last sentence there

ember hill
delicate dove
thorny compass
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Instructions unclear, bought all AI packs

grim musk
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I think I'm less bothered about the use of AI generated stuff in games, and more about the fact these sellers are actually selling it and often trying to pass it off as their own original work, feels really scammy

ember hill
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IMHO AI gen artwork should be used as reference for manmade artworks

lucid osprey
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no

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actually not

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there has been a law passed already

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that says that the art was made by a machine

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and such the machine owns the art

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not the prompter

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So the infinity people here are sort of breaking the law

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i myself think its garbage.

scarlet mountain
# lucid osprey there has been a law passed already

No, there was a court ruling. And computers can't own copyright, so it's actually public domain. It's unclear though what the bar would be for human work done on it later to turn it into a copyrightable derivative work.

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There's LOTS of assumptions being made about copyright ATM, and it's not as clear cut as people like to think

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But regardless, it does feel like low effort shovelware style products

lucid osprey
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less then that

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but as always

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there is no evidence

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you might say that: AI art has clear patterns...

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and stuff

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but it will evolve to a point where it will be unrecognizable.

scarlet mountain
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Well even if it's ai generated and is public domain, it's legal to sell that. It's more of a curation problem on the stores side at this point

ember hill
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||trivia: Infinity PBR's AI content are more well received in Unity Asset Store||

grim musk
scarlet mountain
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If there was better filtering and tags and so on, it'd solve a lot of the problem, you could just filter out ai-generated tag for instance. Or filtering out particular sellers. It doesn't even have to be epic blocking that stuff from being submitted.

lucid osprey
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its more

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its an overarching threat

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it should be entirely forbidden on a goverment level

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international AI law

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a war has startet in the last weeks

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between purists and AI people

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it will get even more problematic soon.

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and i will vote against AI

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it has no rights to me.

ember hill
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Kind of exaggeration but okay

scarlet mountain
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Its certainly going to shake up the industry, but it kinda feels like the genie is out of the bottle. I don't think there's any clear cut way to deal with it like outright banning it. Where does that line get drawn? What will be barred that would otherwise have thrived. Kinda feels like the industrial revolution. It's a difficult thing

lucid osprey
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its not an exaggeration

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artists work is being used against their will for ai learning

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and then reproduced

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these people dont care if its a person that recently died or not.

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the people that are for AI are calling it: Democratizing Art.

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this is insanely damaging

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do you know what kind of massive flood of artist might loose their jobs

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their income

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this is a flood that we never ever had before

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It will completly break the art market

scarlet mountain
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It's not just art though, it's going to keep advancing in all areas. Certainly there's some difficult problems ahead

lucid osprey
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i suspect that it will invade the deepfake scene next

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AI struggles at things like 3d, perspective and angles... so it will be some time until it can create animation.

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material from cctv cameras for instance

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in legal areas

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could get faked now

scarlet mountain
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I mean, deepfakes themselves are a problem. Faked political messaging, actors being reproduced without consent etc.

lucid osprey
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yes

scarlet mountain
lucid osprey
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but its going to be more available now.

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thats why this is a problem on the marketplace

scarlet mountain
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Anyway, this is getting a bit away from marketplace talk. Difficult times ahead fornsure

lucid osprey
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we need to protect our artists

ebon leaf
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The only examples I've seen from it have been people in videos, but I'm sure it can do more than that

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Tbh kinda scared that that shit gets popular, we'd definitely being seeing a lot more of it on the marketplace

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I think its part of a field called photogrammetry

ember hill
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Again, regulating AI content from saturating the marketplace

At least if you want to use AI gen artwork, you gotta generate them yourself (surely the cost for the AI is cheaper than buying those sets)

agile shadow
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I thin my biggest question is do these sell?

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I don't mean sell well, I mean at all?

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realistically will any of these ai generated packs get more than 1-2 sales a year?

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I just don't see a use case

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our of those portrait packs I can see maybe 1-2 portraits that are actually usable

delicate dove
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there are companies that just purchase everything. not many, but they want to have the library available in case of needs.

agile shadow
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i mean wtf

delicate dove
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that looks like me with hair and on mushrooms

agile shadow
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I find it hard to justify the total effort involved

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Just getting the description and screenshots and preparing them for marketplace release

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that's still a few hours

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plus how ever long it took to generate and sort them

delicate dove
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with a paid sub for mj you can just click away, walk away and it'll have generated bleeploads

agile shadow
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still you need to import them in unreal and stuff. Maybe i'm overestimating the admin effort involved

scarlet mountain
agile shadow
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yea

modern perch
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seems pretty low effort to me - you can automate the generation entirely, download an entire batch directly from Midjourney, automate naming them all with a given naming convention, and just drag them all into the editor at once

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getting the automation part set up might take an hour or two, but from there it's gravy

ember hill
# agile shadow I don't mean sell well, I mean at all?

I don't think whether it'll sell or not matter, but whether it poisoning marketplace listings or not, burying legitimate products in the provess.

I mean, one looking at a category, just to find it full of AI gen products.

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For some sellers, having their product listed on first few page of a category might be only hope for them to score sales

agile shadow
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for all sellers it's the same. Even as one of the ( I assume ) larger sellers, with enough revenue to actually pay a small team, I still depend on those first few pages after launching. Revenue drops down considerably and stabilizes after being pushed out of the first 2 pages

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so yea it sucks for everyone

thorny compass
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Is a marketing strategy, flood the market with cheap stuff. Someone will buy, it does not cost much to maintain these anyway.

agile shadow
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"marketing"

dire meteor
narrow stirrup
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Speaking of marketing, how do you guys get people to buy the assets you make? Does posting on social media(youtube, twitter, reddit) help?

agile shadow
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@narrow stirrup not much. Best way is to have more products and get a community going

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new products funnel sales to old ones

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and existing community members will likely buy your new stuff as soon as it's launched

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and are more likely to leave reviews as well

hollow zephyr
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Agreed, I have done zero marketing and had a steady sales number for years. Nowadays I feel I need to pivot my packs because they are outdated and Epic killed my sales with the Matrix City 😅

ebon leaf
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I've found that a quick way to get a community for future products is to post 1 or 2 quality free products

hollow zephyr
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Are you allowed nowadays without Epic's approval? 🤔

graceful arrow
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Only with code plugins

ember hill
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Free asset packs can only be with Epic's blessing, otherwise you have to charge for at least 5 dolans

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Even ALSV4 back then had to cut down the price to $5 when it's intended to be free, until Epic's blessing actually made it free.

ebon leaf
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idk i dont actually have any free packs yet, just heard that from a few ppl on the forums

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its rlly hard to let go of work for free, even if its meant to benefit in the future

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its odd that you need epic's blessing to post your own work for free

agile shadow
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I do hope they don't remove it

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bad enough all the crap we have now

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we'll get even more crap if people can post stuff for free

ebon leaf
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i think they should have a verification system like YouTube

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on YouTube, to access certain features you have to build up a good history

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maybe sellers that build up a good history could have access to certain things like posting assets for free

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also ive gotten quite a few buys on my product so far, but no ratings. Is there a way I can encourage ratings or is that smth u just cant control?

hollow zephyr
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@ebon leafyou can use a good old trick, just add something stupid (but very minor) so people will notice and will review to mention it, while saying the rest is great 5 stars 😆

brisk thicket
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It's getting to the point soon we might want community made curated collections or something

delicate dove
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or a browser-plugin that excludes certain sellers

brisk thicket
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^ I saw some sellers recently that had hundreds of AI generated image icon store listings and other stuff, Please let me exclude them

delicate dove
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ikr

brisk thicket
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I don't know if this would be a terrible idea, but like you only get up to X listings on the store for free, then it costs $ or something to minimize the having hundreds of low quality store listings

delicate dove
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with so much content though, they'd gladly pay it

brisk thicket
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Honestly oribitalmarket is decent and could be expanded to add such extra filtering. I wonder how often they take PRs/changes

ebon leaf
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feature plugins? Like the starter content?

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can you give me an example?

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you can create plugins if thats what you mean

lavish swift
lavish swift
ember hill
lavish swift
ember hill
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I guess that's where the models in the Asset Store came from
Didn't know the plot thiccens

lavish swift
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lol yeah

thorny compass
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Maybe Manny is just posting the art from there on the MP, pfist running a grand trading scheme behind the scenes.

ebon leaf
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this is why I hate the marketplace, I spent weeks making ezprompt and 2 days on ezdof, and yet ezdof has over 8x the amount of sales in the past week than ezprompt. Its so hard to read what people want.

ember hill
ebon leaf
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wdym by that

ember hill
# ebon leaf wdym by that

Developer needs wildly varies, and some of them would roll out self-made solution to their problems as opposed to relying on plugins in Marketplace

||Not to mention licensing trap in regards to code plugins from Marketplace||

ebon leaf
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theres a liscensing trap? also i only rlly care about the interest of those that buy from the marketplace

ember hill
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It's not like customers on shipped game storefronts

ember hill
ebon leaf
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Hey, asking as a seller on the marketplace, what would you have a better chance of buying, an easy to use 3d navigation mesh (for flying ai and stuff), or a procedural world generation tool?

delicate dove
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while the world gen tool is interesting, i have seen questions about flying ai quite a bit as well. a good tool could be interesting. (not that I need one myself)

scarlet galleon
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No legendary Halloween sale?

delicate dove
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spooky, ikr

modern perch
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The problem with navigation solutions for flying, is that they tend to need to be built with specific flight mechanics in minds

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navmesh solutions like the one in Unreal are built for agents that navigate like hominids for example - but they might cause problems for things that don't

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e.g. entities with wide turning circles, or fast moving ones, and the like

graceful arrow
scarlet mountain
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Is that marketplace limit of 1000 assets before some start disappearing still a thing? I just realised i'm getting dangerously close to that....

sturdy hawk
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Hey guys! So I'm starting to think of a user account system on Orbital Market (for those who don't know, it's a search engine for the marketplace https://orbital-market.com). This has been requested for quite a long time, and I'd like to have your feedback/ideas on what's missing on Orbital Market. For now:

  • Curated lists
  • Author black list
  • Owned list (manual)
  • Several named fav lists? (there's already on favlist stored on the local storage)
  • Mail when an item in the favlist have a discount/price change?
scarlet mountain
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That'd be great. The only other thing that jumps out is maybe an alert with publish from author (new products, or updates). But you can mostly follow people on twitter for that.

sturdy hawk
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Nice idea! I'm noting it!

delicate dove
scarlet mountain
sturdy hawk
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(It will likely be a donation button, unless a shitton of people use this feature)

ebon leaf
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It works quite well right now, but it's probably going to be a few weeks before it can reach the marketplace, as it gets really performance heavy when you use a larger volume, I tried to combat this by putting all the processing on the loading, but that causes the engine/game to freeze for almost 10 seconds, which will definitely need to be changed.. I also have to figure out how I can get multiple of them to link up, and add some modifiers like the nav mesh blockers.

ebon leaf
scarlet mountain
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bought/added to vault

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including free items

ebon leaf
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I guess a solution would be to make another account? I don't know I haven't ever heard of this before

scarlet mountain
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I haven't seen anyone else complain for a while, so i'm hoping it was solved when they bumped up the wishlist # limit

delicate dove
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i hope they'll at some point just add a list with tabs, kinda like the regular content browser. would alleviate so much slowness and frustration

scarlet mountain
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well, that's what they appear to have done, anyway

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it's just lazy fixes on lazy fixes lol

ebon leaf
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I have so many assets that I had to redirect my vault to a 4 tb hdd

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Also about bugs, a lot of ppl have said the flickerings been fixed, but I still get it sometimes

delicate dove
ebon leaf
delicate dove
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ikr

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imho the only good part about it is the fact that it has the content I purchased/accepted for free XD

ember hill
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Author black list please
Would love to get rid of those pesky AI gen sly sellers

ebon leaf
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I want a tag blacklist too

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if a product has a certain tag, it gets blacklisted

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i think ai gen has a tag

ember hill
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My stance is supportive with use of AI gen, but clogging up the marketplace with AI gen stuff that people can easily use to their demand is just scummy

ebon leaf
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theres a rule about posting on the marketplace, that your product must be unique and not easily reproducable, and i think ai gen art is easily reproducable when all it takes is typing in the right prompt on a website

scarlet mountain
ember hill
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Not really, AI gen art results is unique and not that easily reproducable, in a way of getting the same image with no prior context.

I guess my point of clogging up marketplace is too difficult to think about.

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For the fourth time, the problem with no effort AI gen listing filling the marketplace is that legitimate products that sellers put their effort into will get drowned among those listings when people browsing the marketplace by category.

To many sellers, apearing in the first few page in the category is their hope to score sales for a few weeks.

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Doesn't necessarily mean sellers can't use AI gen as part of the creation process (e.g. for reference)

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Consider that lazy sellers can churn out thousands of AI gen art as is and make listings of them quicker than legitimate sellers would
Doesn't matter much whether those lazy listings actually scoring sales or not

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As for my input, it would be nice if Epic disallow AI gen art being sold as is, without any effort to make derivative work out of.

ebon leaf
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i think epic should implement proof of creation on art related assets, like a few images showing the process of creation to make sure you actually made them

hollow zephyr
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Or an art director/lead artist to approve them on basic quality standards you'd see at any studio

ember hill
hollow zephyr
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well it's a good learning opportunity 😛 higher reward when their pack is finally approved

ember hill
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And then not scoring many sales and then giving up entirely.

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I mean, yeah, game making is not for weaklings

hollow zephyr
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hell yeah

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well they would score more sales because their pack would go through numerous iterations

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it could be tier-based like turbosquid does/did it

ember hill
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Ugh, I hated TurboSquid.

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Not mentioning its fricking atrocious UX

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UE Marketplace has some justification in that not solely focused on 3D assets

hollow zephyr
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yeah, but I think their "high quality" specs can be a good idea Quality – The 3D model must have a high level of aesthetic appeal as well as workability. If the model is intended to represent a real-world object, it must accurately represent that object. Quads and triangles must be intelligently distributed for good edge flow and clean topology.

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altough I'd like to see more artistic qualities

scarlet mountain
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Not saying you are wrong, you obviously want to buy HQ assets, and a store having a higher quality bar is a good image, but I couldn't imagine the time involved in manually reviewing every submission to that level would be cheap

hollow zephyr
scarlet mountain
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I wonder if they would be able to take an average of a sellers products ratings could be used to generate a seller rating, so you could filter by what the community deems higher quality

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certainly some sellers demonstrate a more professional approach to their products

violet drift
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Which would give old sellers even bigger advantage, and would make abuse even easier...

scarlet mountain
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yeah it's not perfect

ember hill
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Just proof that the asset is not AI gen used as is.

Legitimate sellers that put their time and effort to make their assets should have easier time selling in the marketplace, even if they're literal shit.

violet drift
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Wouldn't change a thing, as at least right now those AI generated assets are obviously AI generated and were still allowed

ember hill
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Maybe I'm giving too much slack to amateurs who are getting started, when in reality they deserved to be stomped to giblets

violet drift
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Nobody deserves to be "stomped to giblets". But marketplace could use better quality control

lavish swift
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Holy shit the marketplace 2D section is now basically 90% AI generated images

violet drift
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it is (and not only ue marketlpace, same is for other stores)

ember hill
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Well, 2D asset sellers would have to break from UE marketplace it seem

opaque quest
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Hi all. Could anyone please share your experience on what is the industry standard/good way of using imported assets? Recently started working on my project and I fail to make up my own mind regarding correct flow of re-using marketplace assets. If you buy a big package with a lot of blueprint logic you would like to keep it updateable in case owner adds more logic to it. Therefore, the question is - what is the best way to expand marketplace BP without making breaking changes to original BP so that it could be reimported at any time? The only possible way I can think of is creating child class of each BP and writing additional logic there. But maybe there is a better way. Any advise would be appreciated.

modern perch
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I don't think there is an 'industry standard' way, because every package is going to be different, and because at industry scale, companies don't to use these things at all

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there is also no effective way to merge changes like you want, you either roll with it unchanged, or manually try to merge in updates into your own revision

opaque quest
proud grail
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question about the marketplace: If I only want to distribute a free plugin I still need to provide tax and payment information, it seems. Is there no way around that? does someone know? (is this even the correct channel to ask this?)

proud grail
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Yeah, but I can live with a support mail. I have my own mail server and people are already free to send me a non-spam mail

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(pretty sure people can notice I'm not a company with three employees)

ebon leaf
vale prawn
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That's what I did, and they flagged my account that way

ebon leaf
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oh thats pretty cool, didnt know about that

proud grail
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That really is pretty nice! Thanks for the info, that's something I can try

zealous grove
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How to download this type of plugin?

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delicate dove
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if its not for sale, and you havent acquired it before it went out of sale, you cant

ember hill
grim canyon
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Same as we did at our small studio.

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Wasnt worth the effort anymore.

scarlet galleon
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Halloween sale is about to come right?

hollow zephyr
scarlet mountain
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I saw a lot of complaints at the time, but I wasn't a seller, so I don't understand what the issue was either. Signing up as a seller after the fact was a lot less painful than I was lead to believe

modern perch
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a lot of people (myself included) are distinctly unhappy at the proposition of being forced to use a Paypal company, when Paypal have a long history of fucking over small businesses arbtrarily.

scarlet mountain
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Ahh ok, so it was the PayPal affiliation behind a lot of the frustration/complaints? Fair call

lucid osprey
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paypal took away an account with 30.000usd once

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when ever money goes onto paypal

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that money instantly belongs to paypal

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thats basicly the reason why they still exist...

lucid osprey
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cant D:

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alternatives?

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errrr

dusk veldt
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Hey everyone, I'm about to complete my code plugin. What are the most popular Unreal Engine versions? How old would it make sense to support versions? I'm about to create an example project for the plugin and blueprints do not have backward compatibility so I will need to pick an older version and then work on it.

scarlet mountain
dusk veldt
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I see, thank you!

ember hill
dusk veldt
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Hopefully mine will be useful to others as much as it’s useful to me. I wasn’t going to sell it but then asked to myself why not. There is nothing similar on marketplace as well.

agile shadow
ebon leaf
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hey quick question, not the most relevant, but I have a plugin I'm going to post to the marketplace, its a 3d navigation mesh volume for AI, and for all my packs I make a logo, and this time It was a little harder to think up a logo, and I ended up making these 2, but im having a bit of trouble figuring out which is better, below is 1

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and this is 2

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let me know what you guys think

dusk veldt
dusk veldt
grim canyon
grim canyon
ebon leaf
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what studio do you work for? or is it your studio?

lean ledge
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yo

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u guys think this lil chibi robot would be interesting for the marketplace?

lucid osprey
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did you make that?

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its already in ue so... why not XD

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why even ask

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Is that your job? Making robots? I love it

dire meteor
ebon leaf
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looks sick

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are they all rigged or just that one?

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if so you could sell them all individually (one for 5-15$), as groups (4 for 25-30$), or as one big pack (maybe 120$ for like 10 of them, unsure of how many you have)

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or a combination of them

scarlet mountain
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Sounds too cheap. Look at other characters on MP for pricing

ebon leaf
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fair point. Looks modular too

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ebon leaf
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holy crap i just got a code plugin posted in record time

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6 hours

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before that, the shortest time I waited was like 36 hours

grim canyon
delicate dove
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def. cute

queen kernel
open rock
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2 years work coming together today

scenic beacon
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Is the Marketplace working correctly right now?

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It doesnt seem to work for me

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Clicking Search opens a internet tab instead of letting me search content on the app

scarlet mountain
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"cheaply milking?" You sure that's the wording you meant? Sounds scammy

ember hill
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Seems like someone's trolling

dire meteor
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This isn't the place to advertise your assets.

delicate dove
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poof.

lucid osprey
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banned.

worn oyster
# lean ledge yo

if u do have a version with leaf bones... and source files available 😛

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lack of source on rigs from MP is total bummer

raven quarry
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does anyone have an idea of when the next marketplace sale is going to happen?

oblique bone
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are there also levels or worlds in marketplace?

oblique bone
jaunty dagger
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No one can talk about the next marketplace sales.

dire meteor
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<@&213101288538374145>

last mango
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?

dire meteor
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This guy advertising his stuff? 😦

last mango
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@jaunty lotus Please use #work-in-progress or #released for sharing your content.

lone flax
ember hill
lone flax
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how about maps do those sell? or does it have to have functionality to sell?

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I for some reason make little maps though

scarlet mountain
scarlet mountain
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Browse the marketplace guidelines, and also the top rated assets. You'll get an idea of quality and scale expectations

lone flax
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thanks for the insight! @scarlet mountain

quaint cedar
scarlet mountain
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resists urge to test

dire meteor
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I did not resist.

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And, yes, it works. 😛

inland plover
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:/

ebon leaf
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So I redirected my VaultCache into a folder on another drive, but the size is getting ridiculous (see screenshot). Is there a way I can still have these assets available, without being installed to a hard drive location?

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scarlet mountain
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Map network drive from a NAS?

dusk veldt
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I need to create a doc for my plugin. Should I go for Google Docs or do you have any recommendations? It won't be too complex.

raven anchor
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Google docs is pretty good and simple

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The more straightforward the better

dusk veldt
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Thanks! I guess that's true.

quasi marlin
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I'm going to buy something from the market, but I'm facing this problem "We're sorry, but you can't make purchases with your account. Please wait 24 hours and try again."

delicate dove
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if it happens in an hour or so, contact the mp-team :)

ebon leaf
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ayo anyone wanna see a bp or cpp system on the marketplace? ive got no idea what to make. suggestions appreciated.

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itd be really useful if the marketplace had a trending tab

scarlet mountain
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I suspect you'll have a better end product if you actually have a use for the system in mind first and make design decisions around that vs a nebulus "system that does x". Identify flaws & weaknesses in your workflow, and build a tool to fix that

ember hill
scarlet mountain
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Also "Make pretty"

ebon leaf
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there is such a button, it costs a few thousand dollars and its called linkedin

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you want that, hire a professional

ebon leaf
ember hill
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I mean, lots of people go after Horror Engine and attempting to make soulless horror games

scarlet mountain
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So maybe focus on a game or other project and see what comes out of that?

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Maybe read some GPU whitepapers, like the guy who made Get Relief! did, identified a better parallax occlusion method that didn't exist in-engine, and made a nice integration for it

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heaps of ways to get ideas

ember hill
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Reminds me of my own fluid sim plugin project that I kept slacking on 😭

scarlet mountain
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yeah that woulda been a gold mine to be one of the first on

ember hill
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My idea is a free open source fluid sim plugin for UE that go low level with compute shaders and RDG textures

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I don't want to sell it tbh, just make it a FOSS under BSD 3-Clause Clear

simple sage
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Hello guys! NEED YOUR HELP! I don't know what i should fill for this. Can you help me please?

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waxen turtle
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WHO is responsible for this 😡

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ya'll out here fiending

modern perch
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pretty sure the Stockfish license means it can't be sold on the marketplace

ember hill
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Correct, Stockfish is GPL, and GPL is similar to virus to closed source software, so it's forbidden by Unreal license.

modern perch
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yup, it also means you couldn't release anything using it either, if you were to buy that plugin

ember hill
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As for chess AI, there's Arasan, which is under MIT, though it's not as popular as Stockfish, and not much documentation on it

waxen turtle
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yeah I thought it wasn't legal lol

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should be free as stockfish is free

ember hill
modern perch
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you can sell software that uses Stockfish, but the license is a problem for Unreal

ember hill
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GPL software can be sold as long as the source code is open without gatekeeping.

modern perch
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because you have to include the full source code of anything you distribute

waxen turtle
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so this plugin would have to open source everything they write too?

ember hill
scarlet mountain
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Yep. GPL is infectious, and unreal is "source available", not open source

ember hill
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It's source available, but the barrier is so low many would mistaken it as open source (which won't have any barrier)

scarlet mountain
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It's fine to charge for opensource software, provided you release the code. The releasing the code part is what is incompatible here

scarlet mountain
viral arch
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I submitted a product on Oct 20 and after a couple of hours I got an email saying it was rejected. But In seller page it is still in the pending approval tab.Any one know why?

scarlet mountain
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Probably better off contacting marketplace support

viral arch
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i did

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but didnt get a reply for 10 hours

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is it normal?

scarlet mountain
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It's the weekend. They probably only work monday-friday, or run skeleton staff on weekends

viral arch
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ooo thanks i didnt notice that

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i guess ill wait

lofty loom
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hello guys, I have this error message when i try to buy assets, I waited days but nothing has changed! have you got any issue before? please ping me if you have ideas what is going there

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quasi marlin
lofty loom
quasi marlin
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I contacted the support team but they didn't even take it very seriously.

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It's funny to be told to contact them even though I haven't made my payment method with Xsolla.

lofty loom
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I am just trying to use my card, and this is funny i could buy an animation pack last week!

quasi marlin
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I wanted to buy a character that I will publish my game this week, but I can't perform the operation.

quasi marlin
lofty loom
quasi marlin
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yep

waxen turtle
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the people on linked in are not on the support team, there is no way they would be able to help you

lofty loom
waxen turtle
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even being desperate, that wouldn't help you

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just make a new account

quasi marlin
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what about the packages in the old account? @waxen turtle

waxen turtle
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what about them

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I mean it's annoying, but you would just have to swap between accounts

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but if you're desperate, than u know

lofty loom
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yeah maybe it can be temp solution, but as a 3 years of unreal user, I am very dissapointed about how epic can be so deaf about an issue is totally because of their systems

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and do you think it will solve the problem to have a new acount?

graceful arrow
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You guys realise that this is the weekend? Consider that it may not be anything to do with Epic, and it may be a banking / payment gateway issue.

waxen turtle
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That too

queen kernel
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I heard there is another October sale. Does anyone know when it might be?

scarlet mountain
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Anyone privvy to early information on sales isn't allowed to talk about it

queen kernel
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No problem - I’ll keep checking the marketplace then.

ember hill
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<@&213101288538374145> self promotion

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Also Quinn died again

inland plover
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o_0

raven quarry
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when'd the first one happen

placid wolf
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scratches head I'm not 100% sure that there isn't a better place to ask this but I THINK this is where I should ask it. New here so if not please forgive and advise on where to ask:

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I have HughesNet satellite for internet and it has nonzero packet loss and very high latency. I have minor issues downloading things anywhere all of the time but EGL is not wanting to give me anything. After 12 days I have 8% of UE5 downloaded and for the last 4 days it has made no progress. I'm not throttled and my ISP hasn't blocked EG Marketplace, so my question is: Is there anything I can change in EGL/Marketplace to make it as forgiving of my crap connection as other similar software is? (Steam, Galaxy, and UbiConnect)

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Alternatively, is there another thing I can do that goes outside the scope of what I'm asking about already, that might help? Willing to experiment and learn.

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Thanks in advance.

ember hill
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Though github remains the most unforgiving connection

placid wolf
ember hill
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I won't advise using source build if it's a BP only project and you're not seeking to modify the engine code.

placid wolf
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My only possible motivation for doing that would be if someone had done something to make UE handle voxels even better since I plan to make use of those. But It's already the best at the specific thing I want to accomplish so I'm not worried about that.

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Thank you so much for that info!

lofty loom
quasi marlin
lofty loom
graceful arrow
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Amazing what happens when it's not the weekend!

toxic merlin
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Hi guys, I have a question to ask, anyone could share few good website where can purchase some hybrid alien suit/Iron Man/titanfall type of clothing suit for a character to add. I'm using Character Creator 4, and would like to design some characters with custom clothes and design it. Would you like to suggest some website to purchase good quality clothes. Thank you.

(Wondering from which source you guys download custom clothes)

raven quarry
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THE SALE FINALLY STARTED!!

subtle pine
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where can i find empty shell vfx

scarlet mountain
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I dunno, sounds like a pretty niche use case

scenic beacon
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Hey, my Marketplace seems to loading indefinetely

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At the right seems to keep loading

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I cant seem to do anything basically

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If I click on any button on the search bar it opens the browser version

scarlet mountain
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working for me. Sign out or clear cookies, and reload

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oh from launcher? yeah launcher sucks

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just use website

scenic beacon
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I'll try that

scarlet mountain
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better yet

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it'll link to store pages when you actually want to purchase. But it's an infinitely better browsing experience

scenic beacon
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That will help a lot

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Thanks

drowsy jasper
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Can you folks recommend solid menu system for UE5 ?

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(by solid I mean everything included, including graphics options, key bindings, pause menu, kb/mouse/gamepad support, etc.)

ember hill
silent arch
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I remember seeing a really awesome dynamic sky system for unreal recently, it costed like 140$ or so, does anyone know the one I am talking about, can't find it for the life of me and don't remember the name

delicate dove
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not sure, truesky?

silent arch
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no wasn't that one

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truesky is not on the marketplace right?

delicate dove
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nooo idea XD havent used sky-packs in ages

silent arch
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haha no worries, I should have saved the link

scarlet mountain
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And sky creator I think it's called?

jaunty dagger
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Infinity weather?

delicate dove
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not the place for this @near lichen

near lichen
delicate dove
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discussing it internally atm, also keep in mind that pacman is still trademarked

lucid osprey
broken falcon
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thanks captcha

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this captcha is unsolvable by human

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please fix

graceful arrow
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You know no one here can fix? 😄 My SSDD¹ isn't detecting much.

¹- Subtle Sarcasm Detection Device.

dire meteor
wooden falcon
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I guess he's a robot

graceful arrow
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The others looks like succulents to be fair. Or non cacti looking things too.

winged ember
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Hey guys, can I somehow follow a marketplace creator to get notifications on new products? I didn't find anything on google, so I'm supposing it's not possible, but just making sure

scarlet mountain
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Not yet unfortunately. Best follow them on Twitter or something

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I think the orbital marketplace dev has a few things in mind or in the pipe though

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I won't @ them, but it's herobrine I think

winged ember
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Okay, I was asking because I found an account pumping out great models well fitted for my game idea like there is no tommorow

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Which reminds me, can I share it here somewhere? I'm sure someone else could also get a good use out of it

scarlet mountain
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Not sure on the rules of sharing "finds" like that. I know if it's your own it's #work-in-progress or #released

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Maybe ask a mod

winged ember
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Oh, how should I ask them? I'm unfamiliar with how asking mods works in here...

scarlet mountain
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I THINK you can just DM them?

winged ember
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Okay, thanks

dire meteor
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Also <@&213101288538374145>

bleak ice
ebon leaf
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hey guys im following along this tutorial and in this part he says that we need to open up the mannequin assets, but the problem is, the download doesnt have these assets https://youtu.be/4HoJIgyclZ4?t=1375

so can anyone help me find a replacement that will work with this tutorial?

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pallid hazel
ebon leaf
pallid hazel
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The "Add" button on the Content Browser

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if you click that, there's a "Add Feature or Content Pack" item. This should bring up the templates from when you originally start a new project.

ebon leaf
humble thistle
north stirrup
ember hill
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I almost thought installing free/owned marketplace plugins for GitHub source build

That'd be too good to be true (at least on Windows)

oak whale
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Thank you Phy for that plugin 🙂

lucid osprey
delicate dove
ebon leaf
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hey guys, I'm a marketplace seller who makes blueprint and code plugins, and im having a bit of trouble coming up with a name for my product. All of my products have the same naming scheme, EZ followed by the product, EZBlockouts, EZPickups, etc. Right now im developing a plugin that gives widgets gamepad support, but EZWidgetGamepadSupport seems kinda long. Anyone wanna help me out?

ember hill
ebon leaf
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imagine being serious

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like ever

ember hill
# ebon leaf imagine being serious

I can be serious and not serious at the same time, I'm a ||coping|| comedian.

Absurd names can be a free marketing in its own right, but not holding up for searchability

Also gamepad navigation for widget is rather trivial with UMG's focus system that barely anyone uses. So it depends on what makes your plugin standout feature wise.

ebon leaf
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gamepad navigation is hell

ember hill
ebon leaf
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eh i guess in c++ its not too hard but for bper's its useful

ember hill
ebon leaf
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it saves time, just 1 node to make all your buttons able to be navigated by controller

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shh they dont know

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but basically, back when I only used bp for everything I made a huge spaghetti monster trying to make a widget navigatable by a controller

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figured a little plugin to do all that for you might be a little useful, couldnt find any on the marketplace (after a brief search)

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besides ive completely run out of ideas of what else to make for the marketplace, this is smth to spend my time on

stuck spoke
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Hey yall I think my epic launcher is seriously bugged. I cant get any of the marketplace links to work like clicking on review, questions, the search function, etc. nothing actually happens when I do. Any workarounds? Or should I just uninstall the launcher or is there a repair feature?

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I am simply looking for the rider plugin to get it working with unreal.

scarlet mountain
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just use a normal browser for the marketplace

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and launcher for vault

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i logged a support ticket, and they gathered some info, and nothing since

stuck spoke
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Alright glad it know at least someone else has the same issue

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Is this built into the engine now?

scarlet mountain
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the IDE should install it for you anyway

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but some people report for whatever reason things list as "unavailable" for them for a few hours, then start working again

scarlet mountain
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Huh, never suspected that. Good catch. Well it can stay broken then!

scarlet mountain
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I can imagine. It's such an odd way to break for a dns issue.

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Don't suppose you figured out the whitelist entry? If not I'll have a dig tomorrow

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Awesome. Thanks. I'll test it in a group for my main dev machine tomorrow

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I'll let you know if it works

stuck spoke
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Let me know if thats a workaround as well @scarlet mountain ! I only have 1.1.1.1 as my main dns redirect so I cant imagine it would break things but come to think of it I never experienced this issue until I set that up

scarlet mountain
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unbelievable that it jsut breaks like that

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Also, it's still a better experience through the browser, but atleast launcher is slightly less irritating

silent mesa
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It would have been cool if we sort have a history on the unreal marketplace like things you added/removed to cart, whishlist, things you bought, reviewed and asked questions. It hard to keep track on assets where I forgot if I gave a review already.

ember hill
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Isn't wishlist a thing in marketplace already? It even predates wishlist in EGS

spark harbor
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hello )
has anybody ever received an email from the epics talking about Unique Selling Opportunity?

hasty nexus
spark harbor
pliant forum
ebon leaf
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they also try to have you jump on the monthly sale every month

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and at random times theyll give u smth about discounting all your stuff for some other sale

pale agate
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whatsup with that ?

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am trying to save or publish

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not letting me

brazen geyser
#

Do you know of any asset pack that would contain Niagara bullet tracers and gun firing flash?

quasi marlin
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I uploaded my Epic gamese steam multiplayer menu design, but it was rejected because it contained a plugin. But the plugins in it are already free, how can I solve this problem?

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message sent to me "- Product includes plugins. All Unreal Engine Marketplace products are only allowed to depend on code plugins that are available through the Unreal Engine Marketplace. These plugins must be free, or or also being sold by the same seller. Additionally, no code plugins, or code files, may be distributed with projects. All code plugins are sold separately, and projects that depend on them must clearly indicate it on their product page. If you would like to rework the included assets to function with plugins that fit these criteria, or refactor the project to solely use blueprints of your own creation, please resubmit through your seller portal at that time and we will be glad to review it."

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These add-ons are necessary and free for the menu I made to support the steam base.

onyx storm
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Anyone know , Can we remove local content from the vault safely if those assets are in a project?

scarlet mountain
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Yes you can clear your vault cache

ebon leaf
#

Quick question: what is the motive behind submitting your assets to be free for the month? Isn't that just a loss of sales? One may say that they do it so that their other assets can be seen by those who get the free stuff, but does anyone actually do that? I know I personally just yoink the free stuff and forget everything else.

scarlet mountain
ebon leaf
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oh really? I didnt know that. Do you know how much the lump sum is?

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I assume it is the proportion of sales

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W H A T

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k imma be on the next sale

scarlet mountain
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You have to apply, and then they select for the month based on theme etc. You don't choose that yourself

ebon leaf
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yea but imma send in an application and hope i get it

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there is no way i would get 5000 even after a year

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wait actually where do i apply

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nvm i found

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ayo its 7500

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delicate dove
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nah, always been 7.5

ebon leaf
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shit i thought joining it was pointless, but its more like winning the lottery

scarlet mountain
ebon leaf
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i spent a long time on my 6 products and i only average like 2 sales a day

next badge
#

this probably not a good place to ask this question,but does anyone here have do something similiar to a Dungeon Architech's Launchpad?

uncut sedge
#

Does anyone remember the free of the month pack a few months back that had the lowpoly RPG asset?

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Forgot the name of it

scarlet mountain
vale prawn
# quasi marlin I uploaded my Epic gamese steam multiplayer menu design, but it was rejected bec...

Is your project a plugin? If so, you can add the dependency in the uplugin. If it's a content product, maybe use an asset guideline to add the dependency (though I'm not sure those work for Marketplace plugins).
The message from the reviewer is actually more lenient than the actual rule. For plugin (there isn't for content?):
2.6.1.d Plugins can depend on Unreal Engine plugins distributed with the engine, but must not depend on other user-made Unreal Engine plugins.

quasi marlin
ebon leaf
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anyone know whats hot on the marketplace regarding blueprint or c++ systems? im fresh outta ideas

brisk perch
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hello there everyone, recently I released all my marketplace products for free, where should I post info about it?

ebon leaf
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you could get ahold of the orbital market guy, but im not sure if they do featured stuff

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hes on the server, names Herobrine

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idk if his dm's are open tho

full steeple
quasi marlin