blueprint

[brazen merlin]

the F input is in your character bp, right?

[chrome eagle]

https://prnt.sc/1zvch61 https://prnt.sc/1zvcmf5 https://prnt.sc/1zvcori

[brazen merlin]

ah yes, much clearer

[chrome eagle]

The left door (BP_DOOR) Is the orginal and is working fine. I've copied most the code over to BP_doorvault. Ignoring the actual door opening animations, when I hit F on BP door the text goes away (as it should). When I hit F on the vault is does nothing

At this point I belive I've completely re-built the code for the vault door in fear of me missing something lol

[brazen merlin]

does the text go away on door vault when you exit the collider?

[chrome eagle]

Yes

[brazen merlin]

just not on press?

[chrome eagle]

Correct

I actually at ont points set the vault door code to ( F node) > (Play 2D sound) and the sound doesn’t work either, so something is stopping vault door from accepting the F input

[brazen merlin]

well you got me stumped, before i didn't understand the problem, but now im just as confused

[chrome eagle]

Me to! 😄

[brazen merlin]

normally, i would handle input events with the player, so on a whim, what if you delete the F input for BP Door

[chrome eagle]

No change (well besides the text on BP_door doesn’t go away, obviously lol

[brazen merlin]

expected and gotcha

a restart of the engine could fix something, though im not holding my breathe

[chrome eagle]

Already tried T-T

fk it I'll do it again!

[brazen merlin]

did you happen to copy the F input node into the new bp?

[chrome eagle]

Orginally yes, I've sense deleted and repalced it.

restart did nothing T-T

[brazen merlin]

and both F inputs are the same, the checkboxes?

[chrome eagle]

Correct, No consume input no modifiers

[brazen merlin]

and there wasn't any kind of class default you set on BP Door>

[chrome eagle]

there is something in there! hold plz

yessssss I didn’t set the input "auto receive input" to player 0 it was still disabled

I love you so much

[brazen merlin]

pleasure is mine, i can sleep tonight

[modern musk]

For functions with "For Loops", does a function that's connected after the function with the "For Loop" wait for a return node or the preceding function to finish, or does it fire immediately?

[brazen merlin]

you're calling a for loop in a function, and then in the graph, the function is called followed by another node?

[flat raft]

@chrome eagle

[chrome eagle]

It's all fixed Thor - A box wasn’t checked

[brazen merlin]

its always a checkbox....

[flat raft]

LOL

[modern musk]

Basically, Function A has a "For Loop" and Function B is connected to Function A's execute pin. I'm just wondering if Function B will wait for Function A's "For Loop" to finish prior to being called?

[brazen merlin]

im adding that to my profile after this traumatic endeavor

[brazen merlin]

yeah, the loop within function A will run, upon the loop Complete, it will fire out to the next node (out of the exec pin)

[gentle urchin]

Shouldn't you enable input on the actor ?

[modern musk]

Awesome, thanks for the help!!

[gentle urchin]

Instead of the 'fix'you've got now :p

[chrome eagle]

I followed a skill share class so a lot of the code isn't elegant it was ussually "look what else we could do"

This is the first I've used UEE

[brazen merlin]

what would be more appropriate is to have the player character or player controller call the input, but that is a bit tough as the bp's need to communicate with one another

[gentle urchin]

Well, enabling input solves it all really,

Enable and disable on leave

You can decide if you want it to override functionaloty or not like any override function

[chrome eagle]

Well I'm terrified to mess with it so ima leave it the way it is xD

[gentle urchin]

^^

[brazen merlin]

you make a good point, i didnt consider that, but i can see the usefulness

[gentle urchin]

Current method wouldnt work well with several doors i think

[brazen merlin]

but if the input were on the player..... then overlapping both doors would work, yes?

[flat raft]

@chrome eagle the best way is to use a interface, and not have input enabled on the objects

it's best to have all your inputs in the character or controller class.

usually character

[brazen merlin]

in time helpcooldo, you're getting the hang of things

[chrome eagle]

Makes sense. Otherwise every object I have that’s interfaceable would need to be enabled, yes?

[flat raft]

you don't want to mange inputs on the objects. it can get out of hand and you can loose trace of who has consume input on

[brazen merlin]

that's the beauty of bp interfaces, they simply shoot the message out there, and if there are recievers, they will recieve

[gentle urchin]

Im not convinced. While i agree with the actor triggering the input events, i dont really see any reason why yoi cant enable it temporarily on other actors. Isnt this also whats done in the new input design? With the input object stuff?

[cursive apex]

Hey there. I know how to make a torch that lights up by pressing a button... Well a lamp. But how do I make an actual torch that lights up fire when I cast a spell towards it

[flat raft]

this way also, you can map "F" or "E" to any amount of objects, and they will do their own things. E on a flashlight will turn it on , E on a door will open it, E on a item will pick it up

[gentle urchin]

That would work with enable input aswell :p

[brazen merlin]

the spell shot would trigger it

[flat raft]

using Enable input, mean you have to mange it.

[cursive apex]

You mean pressing the spell key would trigger it?

[gentle urchin]

You have to manage the interface aswell.

[brazen merlin]

i would say that keeping one place with the inputs desired is less of a mess, especially if input keys change. Inputs from other actors is possible because you are right, in some cases this is less complicated.

[gentle urchin]

Implementation in every actor

Changing input keys would be part of the input settings. Nobody likes hardcoded inputs like that :p

[brazen merlin]

if you shot a spell, ie a projectile, it would need to hit or overlap the collider of the torch, thus triggering it

[brazen merlin]

If i change the name of my input from "attack" to "smash" the node would not update

[gentle urchin]

If thats a big concern or issue, you're doing it to often ^^

Theres also global search option. But yes, it could mean updating every actors input event. Troublesome for sure

[brazen merlin]

if the player can possess different actors, or better put, if its a strategy game where certain actors have their own inputs, it's easier to detect which actor than to allow the input

by having the inputs within the player controller, the input is always registered

[flat raft]

the biggest issue is you'll have to mange ConsumeInput.

[gentle urchin]

With the interface you're not given the option of consuming tho

[flat raft]

right

[gentle urchin]

With the pros and cons that may have

Interface is a solid option tho.

No doubts

[brazen merlin]

once again, i see the reasons to have them on actors rather than on player, obviously its possible

[flat raft]

if you have 5 doors, which door is in focus ? It can quickly get out of hand, and annoying. If for some reason your consume input bugs out, then you can never open a door

[gentle urchin]

For sure its not universal for any use cade

[flat raft]

the game DarkSiders had that issue

[gentle urchin]

Hopefully you dont stack 5 doors 😬

[flat raft]

well, that was also Unreal3 lol

so maybe it's changed

[brazen merlin]

well on that point, ive run into the issue of having multiple pickups in a tight area, where the player overlaps multiples

[gentle urchin]

But if you do.... rip all 5 doors would be in focus, but only one recieve the input(unless not consume which opens all 5)

[gentle urchin]

For that use it definetly doesnt work very well

[brazen merlin]

honestly, im not sure which would, though my input is on the player, i have to sort all that have overlapped to determine which to allow input on

[flat raft]

i keep mine on player also

i guess it depends on your design

[timber knoll]

Why would you have input on a door or interactable...

That makes no sense 😛

[brazen merlin]

because you're learning the engine and trying to understand concepts

[gentle urchin]

In such scenario i register the items to the player and use math with direction and distance to decide which one to focus

[brazen merlin]

i actually just did the most recently overlapped, then once it gets picked up, refresh and repeat

[flat raft]

i put inputs on objects if they are puzzles

like mini game kinda thing

[brazen merlin]

i put inputs in my inputs

[flat raft]

brave

lol

[gentle urchin]

Tehe

I forward my pc tick to the actor 😂

[flat raft]

ok, i'm outta here. Night all!

[brazen merlin]

now we're talking

[gentle urchin]

Did a design booger, which haunts me still

[brazen merlin]

gn

[gentle urchin]

Gn!

[wise swan]

Hey guys, how can I initialize a profile menu where we can change our pfp from a list of avatars?

currently I'm just manually adding all the buttons inside a scroll box and all the buttons are set to preview the avatar and then when the player click apply, the changed data gets sent to server. how can I implement this dynamically?

[maiden wadi]

Make another userwidget with the button. Probably just needs an index integer. Make an onclicked delegate in the widget, call that when the button is clicked. Pass this integer in and set it when you create the button. Make an array of avatars. Iterate over the array, for each one, add a button to whatever list you want and bind the delegate from the button to an event. When the delegate runs, used the returned integer to look up in the same array you used to create the buttons for the avatar data you need to send to server.

[gentle urchin]

I just exposed the related data to the button directly (buildclass in my case) but same principle. Benefit was buttons can adapt to the class with icons and hover data etc

[mystic mist]

hmm... something strange is afoot. I have two blueprints, they are identical minus the actors being called in question

One works fine, the other only part way

this one works

but this one does not

I feel like im missing something? but I dont know what

[hollow cape]

define "doesn't work"

[mystic mist]

?

oh

haah

[hollow cape]

what is failing, have you verified the OnClick is actually firing? What/where is spawn transform set?

[mystic mist]

So the First one - the ball is destroyed, and then respawned to its original location.

The second one - the balls are destroyed, still one BP - and then they dont respawn.

but they should.

hmm

I have not, I will see if the string works

ok! according to the strings, The first part of the code is being called second.

Where Hello should be first, Goodbye is coming in and then Hello

ok so I flipped the sequence, the strings are correct, but the spawn still doesnt work.

found them

they are falling down

which means they are spawning, just not where I want them to

[rough cedar]

Anyone have any ideas why duplicating a character bp would stop me from being able to use an anim montage in that bp? everything is exactly the same but anim notifies arent working. i even tried just this super simple line of code and nothing happens.

all other animations work fine but anything that uses the animgraph doesnt seem to be working

i feel like its something with the slots here

[wet wren]

hey there so i uh made this thing which spawns a ball 200 times but the loop only plays once

[gentle urchin]

You got delay in the loop

[wet wren]

yeah bc i dont want them to spawn all at once when i remove the delay it works but how can i add the delay?

[gentle urchin]

Forloop is 'instant' iteration

It waits for nobody

[wet wren]

i see

[gentle urchin]

You need a custom forloop which supports custom trigger of the next element

You can make a macro for this

[wet wren]

o alright thx

it works thanks!

[rough cedar]

nvm figured it out!

[tranquil hemlock]

Hey there, I'm completely new to BP. Been looking at several intro tuts and decided to implement a simple camera perspective swap upon holding down SpaceBar. It works fine except I have two problems.

1. I only need to press space bar once not HOLD it to activate. How do I make it so that the camera stays on first person only while I'm holding space bar?

2. Pressing space bar doesn't work the first time, only from the second time onwards. What's causing that?

[earnest tangle]

How are your inputs set up? As in, what is the difference between inputaxis and inputaction Toggle Perspective?

[tranquil hemlock]

Got both mapped to Space Bar

I was made to believe I need to use both to set up a feature that can get called at any time

[gentle urchin]

Pressed -> set bool pressed -> delay -> branch (pressed as input) true -> do transition

Released -> set pressed false

You dont need both :p

[tranquil hemlock]

so no need for the axis one right? just the action mapping

[gentle urchin]

Correct

[tranquil hemlock]

would you be okay with explaining why delay is used in this instance?

sry still new and learning

[gentle urchin]

Delay is for delaying the transition untill timeheld (delaytime) is passed and the button is still pressed (so the bool is still true)

Could do this a million ways. This would not work directly with something like a progressbar but thats another matter :p

[tranquil hemlock]

thankfully I don't need to set up a widget or anything like that for it just need to have it held down to work

[gentle urchin]

Not sure if my explanation was worth its salt ^^

[tranquil hemlock]

gonna give it a go now and see if that works

[gentle urchin]

Let me know if it doesnt^^

Wasnt there a bug there ? Always returning 1?

[tranquil hemlock]

so I tried that other method and it still only works with a single button press, no need for it to be held down unfortunately. I don't know if I did it right tho

[gentle urchin]

You did, altho dont drag from the set node

Grab a fresh get node

Set delay to 1 sec

So it must be held 1 sec

[tranquil hemlock]

I just used a get node for "IsHeld?" and set the delay to 1, still doesn't work on hold for some reason

[gentle urchin]

Also you can use the is A to toggle them on and off instead of 2 sets of ndoes^^ dont matter much tho

[tranquil hemlock]

also has the bug of not working the first time it's pressed, don't know what's causing that

[gentle urchin]

Because its going the already activated route first

You got a and b mixed up

[tight pumice]

hello anyone maybe know when exatcly OnPostLoadMap is triggered ?

[worldly pasture]

Hey guys, is there a way to use console commands in the shipping build?
I'm currently using 4.27.1

Also, none of my render targets seem to work when packaged. It's just blank, but works fine in editor and standalone.
Any help would be appreciated :)

[tranquil hemlock]

Squize that second tip about the a and b fixed the second issue with the first tap not working

still don't need to hold spacebar down though

[gentle urchin]

Screenshot again

[tranquil hemlock]

let me know if i messed up

[gentle urchin]

Seems correct

If tapping spacebar works, then some other code must be running

[tranquil hemlock]

hmm the only thing I can think of is the input for jump set by the default third person project

I've deleted both the input in the settings now and the nodes for the jump event

[gentle urchin]

You could also try some other input just for testingn

Like hardcoded '1' or something

[tranquil hemlock]

so a different key press?

[gentle urchin]

Yeah, purely for testing purposes

Just to single out the event

[tranquil hemlock]

just tried with 1 on the keyboard

does the same only need to press it once

[obtuse herald]

Why make it harder, connect pressed to set active at the top and released to the set active at the bottom

[gentle urchin]

Its ment to be held for 1 sec ^

Baffels me that it works by just tapping it

Doesnt make sense

[tranquil hemlock]

ideally should be instantaneous, wouldn't want a delay transition. as soon as the player holds space FPP cam activates but if they let go they're kicked back to third person

[gentle urchin]

Say what

Why wasnt that described 😂

Did i miss that part?

[obtuse herald]

Pressed -> delay -> gate in

Pressed - open gate

[gentle urchin]

If so toyb is correct, just connect directly

[obtuse herald]

Released -> close gate

[gentle urchin]

Delay with gate also works same idea tho

The bool works as a gate

[obtuse herald]

Yeah

[gentle urchin]

Gate would also need sequence i guess

But if the idea is for it to swap while being held, then what you said earlier is correct

Connect activate tp cam on spacebar pressed

And visa versa on released

[obtuse herald]

It's just, the flipflop does things unnecessary harder

[gentle urchin]

Very true

[tranquil hemlock]

omg yay

that worked!

I wonder if I did it a lil messily, I'm still new and not sure if the gate needs an entry to be activated. that's why I put a sequence before it that plugs the delay into both entry and open

but for all intents and purposes it now works just by holding it down 🙂 thanks a bunch to both Squize and ToyB

[gentle urchin]

Hehe still not correctly setup but oh well 😅

Pressed -> sequence -> delay
-> open gate

Released -> Sequence -> close gate
-> reset cam

With your setup, single tap should also work

[tranquil hemlock]

should be cleaner now, works fine and dandy. don't wanna have it be messy

makes much more sense this way, cheers for the help again!

[gentle urchin]

Perfecto

[faint pasture]

Cache time on press, check duration on release. If over 1 second, do thing.

There's a million ways to do the timing but the basic idea is to check duration on key release.

[gentle urchin]

Yeah its what we set up aswell, but for some reason it didnt work

[vernal tendon]

Hi. I'm facing a wired issue in UE 4.27 while developing for mobile. Motion Inputs like Gravity are not working, just returning 0,0,0. The Same thing is working in UE5 EA.

Can anyone please help me ?

[faint pasture]

Show what you have.

[icy dragon]

#mobile

[vernal tendon]

Just a minute

This doesn't work in UE4.27.X while it works normally in UE 5

[faint pasture]

I was talking to that other guy. You'll have better luck in #mobile

[vernal tendon]

Is there any setup that has to be done in UE 4?

Ok. My bad.

[gentle urchin]

Its not my code or issue, i just suggested the same solution as you did ^^ it got resolved aswell. Ty tho

[heady marlin]

Hello all, i want to create a sort of infodisplay when u, with mouse, hovered the component of the actor.

I implemented it with widget interation on camera, and widget component attached to the component of the actor. The widget got a button wich implement the hovered function, and it works.

There's some other suggestion on how to develop it?

[ripe lotus]

Does anyone know how to add in-game key bindings, so that the player can change the key bindings themselves? I am struggling to find helpful information regarding this.

[faint pasture]

It's not super simple right now I don't think but there's the Enhanced Input Plugin.

Otherwise I think you need C++ unless there is an input node that can pass over the key. In that case just use a map to map keys to events

[ripe lotus]

That's what I was afraid of...thanks for the info.

[faint pasture]

Dig around and see if you can find a node that returns the key you're pressing. It'll be doable in BP if you have that.

[gentle urchin]

In one setup we used any key event mapped to enum , felt a tad hacky but worked okay, atleasy for keyboard only

[devout crow]

Guys,how can I slow down my character and disable sprinting when he moving left and right with BluePrint?

[gentle urchin]

Something like this?

[ripe lotus]

Yes, exactly that.

[gentle urchin]

Requires some adjustment if you want it to work with analog events aswell

[odd ember]

I don't want to pry but what did you need the AnyKey mapped for?

[gentle urchin]

No worries, pry away

It's from an older tutorial, pre enhanced input

was a pretty dirty way of mapping inputs to anything you wanted. Based on anykey event + map with enums

in the PC

which after some checks went to a dispatcher

which in turned ended in this massive enum switch

Elegant? Not very. Does it work? Yes

[quasi frost]

So I am trying to set up a replicated HP bar. Health itself is working (As you can see from the number) but the progress bar is not moving. Super confused about why this isn't working as I am setting the progress par percentage on the same tick (will change off of tick later) as the text. It only updates when it hits 0

(Value based off of 100 health)

[gentle urchin]

RepNotify ^

[quasi frost]

Yes I am using repnotify

[odd ember]

server has to propagate the info to all clients in this case

[quasi frost]

I am using the same variable for the text and the progress bar and the text is working though

[odd ember]

was this due to BP limitations?

[gentle urchin]

Yes, correct

[odd ember]

sounds like a fluke to be honest. I would never do anything like this on tick either. delegates much more elegantly encapsulate these sort of actions and make it easier for server <> client communication

but tbh it may be better to talk about it in #multiplayer

[quasi frost]

Yeah I had it on tick for debugging. I figured out the issue lol, I forgot to divide by 100 for the progress bar percentage.

[rose elbow]

how do you adjust how much a float curve goes up by in the X Axis?

[open crypt]

When I spawn an actor of a certain type, I also spawn an item and attach it to a socket on the skeletal mesh actor- later I end up deleting that actor but the item I'm attached is just left floating in air - do I have to create a static mesh variable that's empty on the actor and then populate it when I spawn that item with the item?

[faint pasture]

Ya this was exactly what I was talking about. Can also use a map to do that. It'll be jank but it'll work until you get a better implementation.

[faint pasture]

Just set keys where you need them.

[rose elbow]

I have but what I mean is the x axis value I need it to go up by lets say 0.5 but its going up by 300, this is how it looks:

this is how it should look

all points have the same value in both

the documentation is also outdated af

ok i've sorted it Unreal is just poo

[gentle urchin]

Restart solved it?

zoom was way to far

[rose elbow]

Yes

well kinda

[rose elbow]

you adjust this

but it wasn't doing it until I closed and opened it

[gentle urchin]

ah

[rose elbow]

when it does it properly for the y axis lmao

[earnest tangle]

Yeah the curve editors seem a bit messy sometimes :P

feels like there's several different ones which all work a bit differently too

which is annoying

[rose elbow]

maybe if they updated the documentation

its not an issue if you're dealing with small values because it does it automatically

[mystic mist]

How would I play a spline animation and then reverse it so it loops indefinitely?

[faint pasture]

@rose elbow that's your tangents.

[rose elbow]

it's just that it doesn't update in real time

if you set your points then close and open it its fine but its still inconvenient

because thats assuming you already know what values you want

[faint pasture]

Oh in your case that's just the view. Zoom to fit

Looks like it defaults to a square view while you want 0-1 on the x and 0-500 on the y or something like that. Just zoom to view all keys.

[rose elbow]

I tried that it did nothing

you just need to close and open it again

[wintry olive]

Hiho,
Sorry for interrupting but I am new to unreal and a bit stuck.^^ Is there a way to copy a procedural Mesh I generated via Blueprints?
Because I have a function that puts a procedural Mesh on a position in the world. But I only see it always at the last position I give him with the loop of the call.

Thanks in advance

[faint pasture]

I'm assuming you want many meshes, all the same?

[icy dragon]

Never worked with procedural mesh, but I assume you could make a new component?

[wintry olive]

yep

[faint pasture]

You may be able to do a copy in c++ but I'm pretty sure you'll just have to make the mesh many times. What is this?

[wintry olive]

Well the Idea is that I have a Grid in my Gameworld and show those Meshes as Kind of Unit Range like this...

[wintry olive]

I could try that ^^

Oh sry wrong answered^^

[faint pasture]

Why procedural?

[wintry olive]

And normaly the X marked fields should be also this red Mesh^^

[wintry olive]

idk saw it in a Tutorial 😄 thought this is the way to do. Still learning ^^

[gentle urchin]

Sounds like ISM would do the job nicely

[faint pasture]

Yeah ISM

[wintry olive]

ISM?

[gentle urchin]

or just material

instanced static mesh

[faint pasture]

Or just do it in a post process

Or in the landscape material

[wintry olive]

So I will create a Mesh (But not in Blueprints) and use this and it should work right?

[faint pasture]

Show an example of the exact effect you're going for.

[wintry olive]

Well the EXACT thing should be, I click a Unit and as soon as I clicked it, the Variable MoveRange is read and then, I will see how many red Tiles appear in front of it.
For this test scenario, I gave the Grid locations 0,0 1,1 2,2 and 3,3 to test if they appear^^

[faint pasture]

If it's just a grid on the ground I would do it in the landscape material. If the grid is meant to go on EVERYTHING do it in the post process.

[wintry olive]

and only on 3,3 I can see it

[faint pasture]

For that I'd use decals maybe? Or static meshes can work if you want them to be in 3d. You'll want ISM if you're gonna have TONS of meshes.

[gentle urchin]

world aligned decal would work

[wintry olive]

hmm I guess in most Cases I just want to show about maximum 20 of those filled grids

[gentle urchin]

but i think doing ism's is easier 😛 thats just me not enjoying materials alot

[wintry olive]

Okay I will try that with ISM. Thank you 🙂

[faint pasture]

Start with plain static meshes then switch over to ISM once you got it working. Just spawn mesh actor at position and keep track of it.

I'd do all this in the PlayerController probably.

Get SelectedUnit, read Movedistance, spawn meshes at every gridlocation within Movedistance of SelectedUnit.Location```

[wintry olive]

So do I have to make a own Actor Class for this Mesh? Or how else I am going to spawn it?

Sorry for asking that dump^^

[lucid lynx]

I've got a third person camera on a spring arm. I'm teleporting the character from one location to another, also changing the actor rotation. I want to reorient the camera behind the player. Changing the spring arm's rotation doesn't seem to do anything. How do I rotate the camera towards a new direction?

[faint pasture]

Might not be a bad idea. Then you can wrap up the color/etc behavior and expose it on spawn.

So you just spawn actor MoveVisualizer and pass in the color or even an enum. Depends on your end goals really. Can also just have the PlayerController handle it all.

[icy dragon]

Try setting the control rotation.

[trim matrix]

Hello 🙂 Why if i in packaged game set shadow quality to 0 then turning off volumetric fog ? I need separate turning off in game. How can i do that ?

[icy dragon]

Volumetric fog needs the shadow information.

Disabling the shadows of course disabling the volumetric clouds as well.

[faint pasture]

Depends on how you're usually setting rotation but if actor and spring arm are driven by ControlRotation just set that like hoodie said.

[lucid lynx]

That did the trick. Thanks!

[trim matrix]

So is impossible separate turning off volumetric fog ?

[icy dragon]

Literally impossible. Again, volumetric fog needs shadow information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd7-rTzfmCo

If you don't want shadows but want the fog, might as well use the older height fog method instead, or a simple depth fog post process.

[tight schooner]

I'm looking over what I have in my current project. Add a widget called Input Key Selector, which provides an event named On Key Selected. Then there are various useful nodes you can use like Get Input Settings, Get Axis/Action Names, Remove Axis/Action Mapping, Add Axis/Action Mapping, Save Key Mappings

[trim matrix]

If i set shadow quality to 0 then i see height fog but i set height fog on black color so is invisible. I thinking I'll leave it at that.

either there will be volumetric fog or none at all

[wintry olive]

HAHA!!! Got it Thank you guys soooooooo much Thousand kisses 😄 😗

[wintry olive]

❤️

[trim matrix]

And what about AA method ? how can i set in game different AA Method ?

[icy dragon]

Unreal Engine only has either Temporal AA (best for deferred rendering) or FXAA (bad results). There is MSAA, but I think it's just on forward rendering, so I'll ignore that.

Though not sure if r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing # still works in 4.27 or not. Oh well, gotta test it later.

[trim matrix]

I using 4.22

this version is last when i creating project

[fading jetty]

Hey ! How to I create an instance of an object during runtime which is now Actor ? The object that needs to be instanced is imported at runtime.

[wintry olive]

Don´t know if that helps but i did something like that.

[nova pagoda]

Hey guys, is there any way to use the GetClosestPointOnCollision node with Complex Collisions. "use complex as simple" doesn't work so I was wondering if there's a workaround?

[faint pasture]

If searching doesn't bring up anything I'd say it's not built in. Complex collision makes things much more complicated.

[nova pagoda]

I am aware. I was just wondering if there's a way of converting the complex collision to simple collision so the engine is forced to use it

[glacial eagle]

There's not

[nova pagoda]

thanks anyway

[glacial eagle]

barely works properly with simple collision tbh I've found

[brittle plinth]

Hello, I have a DOOR BP which has a small jitter and a sound effect when I interact with it and I want to be able to let the whole thing finish until I can interact with it again, meaning that the sound and animation won't be played if press the interact key too fast

[nova pagoda]

i've found that tracing a line against complex kinda works

[faint pasture]

That will work just fine. Finding closest point on collision is much tougher. The algorithm probably leverages the collider being convex.

[faint pasture]

@brittle plinth the key is Finished

Have a book that you set false right before the timeline and set true after finished

Only allow entry to the interaction if it's true.

[pale flame]

Hey guys. Would anyone be kind enough to answer a few newbie questions for me?

[odd ember]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[pale flame]

lol

I'm just looking to be pointed in the right direction. I want to dabble in making a turn based rpg battle system in similar style of like dragon quest or final fantasy. However I can't find any tutorials on the matter and it's a bit overwhelming. So could you folks point me in the right direction to a some things I could study to begin to figure these systems out?

[icy dragon]

If you fancy doing some reverse engineering work, I think jRPG Template on Marketplace might be a good start (not sure if it's permanently free or was a limited time free, but I did get it for free a long while ago)

[odd ember]

basically turn based systems boil down to stack resolution

which, depending on your experience, might sound difficult and complex

but is really easy

[gusty shuttle]

Hey, did you guys ever run into the issue where when you are using a controller, it grabs focus from something random in the widget?

[icy dragon]

(ended up not using it because my project is action RPG, not turn based)

[gusty shuttle]

Like I can move down easy, just not up

[pale flame]

I actually have the JRPG template however I'm still too uneducated to understand reverse engineering it.

I'll go study stack resolution

[icy dragon]

Probably issue with widget's focusing, which I know is unreliable as duck.

[odd ember]

well stack resolution is just that you have a stack data structure, and you keep putting actions on it

and the last thing resolves first

[gusty shuttle]

Aye, everything except buttons are set to non-hit testable, so it's somehow grabbing focus from something hha

[faint pasture]

@pale flame Just try to keep things procedural and have a central place (GameMode probably?) That is calling the shots as to who's turn it is, what the phase of the turn is, etc.

If you make the system robust and have a nice interface between it and controllers, then making AI is more like making a bot to automate what a player does.

[spark steppe]

Adriel, remember that rotator issue from yesterday? inverting yaw doesn't help 😭

[faint pasture]

You're trying to go from x front y right z up to x front y left z up?

[spark steppe]

yea

my input is the first, and unreal is the later

maybe i should check how they do it with motion controller like vive, etc.

[faint pasture]

There can also be variances in the angle bases and ranges

[spark steppe]

or i should squeeze my brain 😄

[gusty shuttle]

The widget reflector is not pulling up anything. I have no clue what's sapping my dang focus

[faint pasture]

Like does your input go 0-360 or -180-180 for yaw for example

@spark steppe you really need to map out exactly where your input starts it's angles from, the directions they go, etc.

[pale flame]

I appreciate the help guys but I think a lot of this advice is still a bit advanced for me. Could you guys recommend some basic things for me to study?

[spark steppe]

-180 to 180

[faint pasture]

Don't study, do. Just start with being able to mark who's turn it is and have them take an action (print hello world).

@spark steppe Show an example with 45,45,45 rotation

[icy dragon]

I don't think that's going to matter much in turn based, menu based JRPG.
I think what matter more is getting the queueing and decision making to work.

Sorry, I mean the rotation one

[pale flame]

I don't even know how to make turns. Thus I think I need to study.

I was just hoping someone knew of some documentation that could teach this kind of thing.

[faint pasture]

Do you know what a pawn, actor, controller, GameMode, GameState, component, event, dispatcher, etc are?

[icy dragon]

Yeah, there's going to be no step by step "docs".
Turn based JRPG comes in a crap ton of flavours.

But at least know the basics of blueprinting and making gameplay code.

[pale flame]

Yeah, @faint pasture I've followed some basic tutorials

[icy dragon]

And that's ignoring all the other typical RPG system.

[pale flame]

blueprints is what I've been studying

I'm not looking for a guide that's like "here's how to make this exact kind of battle system". I'm just looking for the foundation to these kinds of things.

[faint pasture]

There's a bunch of turn based tutorials, just find one that seems to know what they're doing and you'll be in business.

The good news is that turn based is easy af for networking if that's a thing you're looking towards

You could play civilization by email

Also read this
https://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/command.html

[pale flame]

Thanks I'll give it a read

[gusty shuttle]

Quick question, which ref is a widget bp self ref as? Seems like it's not a widget blueprint ref. So what kind is it?

[sharp rapids]

It's an Object Reference

[gusty shuttle]

Aye, but what kind

[sharp rapids]

It says so

'Object' kind

It's kinda the topmost class in UE

[gusty shuttle]

Okay, so the scenario is that I want the options widget to know what widget it was created from

So Im in my main menu, creating the widget, and I want the options widget to know it was the main menu that opened it

I basically just want to pass the information through the options widget so I can ask later on which widget was used to open it, so when I close it, I can open the previous widget

So @sharp rapids How would you go about this?

[sharp rapids]

I have no idea tbh

Have you tried casting it to your main menu widget?

[gusty shuttle]

That is not really going to be what I need in this situation

I just need a valid ref for my options to know that it was opened by the main menu

[sharp rapids]

Yeah, What I'm saying is Cast the self reference to a widget

That way, you'll be able to pass it in

[gusty shuttle]

That sounds hacky haha

Also, it does not work

[icy dragon]

Aren't cast nodes supposed to have exec in/out pins, not a pure function?

[gusty shuttle]

I tried both ways

[sharp rapids]

You widget owner variable is a 'Widget Blueprint Object' Reference

It should be a 'Widget' Reference

[gusty shuttle]

Indeed

OKay I'll tryyyyyy that

I figured Widget Blueprint Object because the main menu widget is a widget blueprint

All good in the hood now, thanks

One would think the Self ref was the Widget Blueprint, but I guess I just needed a regular ass widget object ref

Thanks guys for your help

[gentle urchin]

Isnt it a tad weird with that input? since Get Parent exist?

[odd ember]

that'd be too easy

if you're crossing at least 3 rivers to get water, are you even programming then?

[silk hinge]

Hey, Is there a way to Replace a Text into a widget, depending on a text saved into data for exemple ?

[odd ember]

there are many ways

what's your context?

[silk hinge]

like Item description into data, Text variable, that is replacing the text of the widget, to make item description pop when hovering Item

[odd ember]

usually you would store that inside a data widget that is populated inside e.g. an inventory system

then as you hover over each item, the item registers this and displays its own property

you're not replacing references inasmuch as you are just looking at references for each

[silk hinge]

I got an itemobject that is storing data, no problem about that I can just add a "Text" variable.

But I would like this variable to replace the text of a button on something

[odd ember]

can you draw your case? or give an image?

[silk hinge]

yeah One sec

This in my inventory, i'm hovering the Item in the middle, So I know how to make a small widget pop, but I would like this widget to have a text, that is getting replaced by the Item description / name.

[odd ember]

object > on hover > spawn widget tooltip (pass itemDescription parameter)

alternatively item tooltip may already do it for you

[silk hinge]

I guess you can bind the text ?

If I bind it to the Itex description, it should show me the text that I stored into the data, right ?

[odd ember]

you dont need to? just make the item widget spawn the tooltip

[dawn gazelle]

If you're spawning the widget, you can pass in values into the tooltip widget you've made, and directly set the values rather than using binds.

[silk hinge]

Okay, I see thanks for the tips I'm out of time to work on it RN, Will definitely try that 🙂

[tired pelican]

Hey sorry me again, I have a blueprint where a camera shake trigger and fade to sound which someone showed and works amazing 🙂 however because this is the end essentially i would like to know the best way to link back to main menu_or end level widget i did try but it didn't really work ^^; it just kep the menu on screen the whole time. Here the currect level_bp for ref 🙂

[thorn ermine]

"link back to main menu" you can simply create the widget you want in blueprint, assign it to a variable, get a handle on the player controller, and add it to the viewport.

[thorn ermine]

remember to first remove any widget that is currently added.

[tired pelican]

ah awesome i'll give that ago thanks 🙂

[trim matrix]

Anyone here who setuping AA method in settings ?

[icy dragon]

Did the console command I posted a while ago worked?

[plush cove]

Hey how to make a bool variable that doesn't need a target

[dusty orbit]

Hi guys, im a total noob here. I was hoping to get some advice on creating a FPS. However i want it multiplayer, so i decided to use the TPP Template and try to copy over the FPS Template controls etc

[brazen merlin]

create variable in the blueprint of the actor?

[dusty orbit]

However i cant control the view with my mouse

[brazen merlin]

the input names in the project settings are the same as what's their on the graph?

[dusty orbit]

Ill check

I think so yeah

Mouse does nothing but i can turn left / right with A/ D

I thought it would be simple xd

[atomic salmon]

Check if Use Controller Desired Rotation is checked or unchecked within the Character Movement Component

[dusty orbit]

Sorry where do i find the Character Movement Component?

Is that the Blueprint itself?

[royal kraken]

Is there a way to change the height by say 5cm each time a button on the vive is pressed, someone quiet till is nearly going through the ceiling in vr

[brazen merlin]

bottom most component in the bp

[atomic salmon]

Now try checking Use Controller Desired Rotation and try again with your mouse

[dusty orbit]

Its working thank you very much

[atomic salmon]

Np. Now you know that if you set the rotation through the player controller your character has to be set to follow the controller rotation otherwise it won’t rotate.

[knotty sequoia]

how can i create expadable list widget?

[odd ember]

like a list you can keep adding to?

[dawn gazelle]

ComboBox?

[knotty sequoia]

yes

[astral cedar]

is ther a way i can get in the game objects world location on the screen

[dawn gazelle]

Just get the actor's world location and feed it in to the world location. Target is your player controller.

[charred grove]

Hello anyone on here knows how to code a fishing system?

[odd ember]

is there really an answer to that question?

[charred grove]

?

[odd ember]

I don't know how you expect people to answer that. "yes I made a fishing system, here is all the code"

maybe if you specified what you want out of a fishing system then someone could help you

[charred grove]

and if you dont have an answer that actually helps me why even bother saying anything?

[astral cedar]

well its a pretty broad question there are hundreds of ways to code a fishing system before you look up how to make one you need to have a plan on how you want it to work

[charred grove]

once someone answers that they know, then i will specifiy, and if you dont know please dont bother me

[odd ember]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[charred grove]

bro trust me you are not that guy

[unique falcon]

you need to break your question down way way more

[odd ember]

pretty sure nobody is going to want to help you with that attitude anyway

[charred grove]

its simple, does someone know how to code it or no? whats the problem?

[charred grove]

bro your attitude gets on my nerves really

[unique falcon]

the answer is yes, many people on here could easily code a basic fishing system, no they probably haven't all solo-built a fishing system

[charred grove]

you trynna make fun of my question, please dont even talk to me if you dont know what i asked about thanks

[unique falcon]

what do you actually want though? rather than just to wind people up who might have otherwise helped you

[charred grove]

i wanted someone to answer yes or no

instead i got whyning about the way i asked my question

thats silly

cant someone just ask?

[odd ember]

there's been 3 people separately telling you that you question isn't really easy to answer

[charred grove]

bro you need to understand that someone question cant be formulated to a stranger on one line, please i need to know who knows the fishing system, then i will further explain

[odd ember]

I'm pretty sure it can and has been before

the more info you give, the easier it is to answer

[charred grove]

okay bro you are tright and you are smarter, better and you know it all

happy?

[unique falcon]

stop, friend

[charred grove]

whatever dude you just get on my nerves

[charred grove]

who in their right mind calls this a helping answer

i asked and got bombarded

[unique falcon]

no-one here wants to be hostile to you, everyone here would be happy to help but if you're not willing to have a reasonable conversation without kicking off then you won't get anything

[charred grove]

thats funny as hell

[unique falcon]

no, you didn't

re-read it when you're less hot-headed

[charred grove]

yea i did

[charred grove]

i literally said, anyone in here knows how to code a fishing system? and got answered this

is that normal?

my question is not that hard to catch bro

[unique falcon]

the answer is obviously yes, there are 14k people in here

[charred grove]

i want to have my rod in hand, cast a line, catch a fish, period

whats so hard

[odd ember]

you assume that's a given

[charred grove]

well i was waiting atleast one person from 14k that knows to answer yes

then i will keep asking my doubts

[odd ember]

you could have said bazooka fishing too you know

[charred grove]

i dont need to write 2 paragraphs straight out to ask a question

[odd ember]

we don't know what you know

[charred grove]

cuz if i do someone will say, "bro are you for real gon write that much?"

i know it cuz thats how it is theres always a reason for yall to contradict

[odd ember]

damn that's toxic masculinity on a level I haven't seen before

[charred grove]

thats just how it is

someone says something another one hates

[odd ember]

but for real, the more detail you give the better answers you get

[charred grove]

really bro?

[astral cedar]

no one will get mad if you ask a detailed long question

[odd ember]

if you give some details about what you want to do with a fishing system then you're bound to get better answers than "has anyone implemented a fishing system before"

[charred grove]

i just get mad at this type of sentences, with sarcasms and mocking of my question. thats all

[odd ember]

add in details with what kind of camera, what kind of fishing, etc.

[charred grove]

i want to use a fishing system so i can hunt boars in antartica

[odd ember]

I want to understand what hunting boars has to do with fishing

[charred grove]

exactly

what else fishing has to do about that you need so much explanation?

[unique falcon]

"hey all, i'm trying to make a fishing mini-game, i've got animations working and my character has a rod but i need to figure out how to get the rod to have a line hanging off the end that uses physics" <- see how this is easier to answer?

[brazen merlin]

use a line renderer

[unique falcon]

there you go

[brazen merlin]

no there you go

sorry couldnt resist

[charred grove]

No, because i didnt do anything yet, i didnt even started making it, i was asking for someone that knows so i can then start informing my self

[unique falcon]

so do you have any idea how you want it to work at all?

are you ice fishing?

[astral cedar]

well just explain how you want your fishing system to work

[charred grove]

of course i do bro

[unique falcon]

river fishing?

[charred grove]

i already explained dawg

and river or ice dont matter

what matter is

[unique falcon]

what bit do you actually need help with next?

[charred grove]

a line cast, a fish bite, a tug of war between the fish and player, and the catch

[brazen merlin]

🏆 I respect the patience

[odd ember]

but this is already more workable

[unique falcon]

that is literally infinitely more helpful

[charred grove]

i already said it

[charred grove]

.

but nvm tho

im not even in the mood anymore to make a game

so dont sweat answering

[unique falcon]

🤣

discord is free y'all

[tawdry surge]

#Commitment

[charred grove]

Sure, i know a little about fishing systems, what do you need to know?

"ehmm i kinda do know something about fishing systems, but could you explain a little more?"

of course i can. tadada tadam

101 social comunication

[brazen merlin]

people, help me out here.. how do i make myself dinner?

[charred grove]

ohh that was hell of a joke man! clap clap

[brazen merlin]

hey don't need to be rude, im trying to get an answer

[charred grove]

but can you explain more?

dinner as in what?

need more explanation

details

[brazen merlin]

i just told you, dinner

[charred grove]

dinner how?

[brazen merlin]

you know dinner

[charred grove]

need mroe explanation

[brazen merlin]

its not hard

[charred grove]

dont ask just to ask

[odd ember]

has anyone ever made dinner in here before?

[charred grove]

yes i did

what do you want to cook?=

[unique falcon]

hi all, anyone know how to make breakfast?

[brazen merlin]

not cook, i want to make dinner

[charred grove]

sure what type of breakfast?

[brazen merlin]

hang on Servus, im trying to get an answer

[charred grove]

idk how you expect people to answer that

[brazen merlin]

well its been fun, im ending the charade before i get in too deep

[unique falcon]

me neither

[charred grove]

"yea i made breakfast, here you go grab mine"

[charred grove]

that was a character?

[astral cedar]

Anyone know how to make lunch

[charred grove]

needs a little bit of refining tho but good act

yall talking like people is born coding

do yall really compare programming with cooking?

[astral cedar]

Im not good at coding

[charred grove]

you know how to do a fishing system?

[odd ember]

https://esolangs.org/wiki/Chef

Chef is a stack-based language where programs look like cooking recipes. Chef was designed by David Morgan-Mar in 2002.

[charred grove]

not the same in abillion yeats

[bright harbor]

ngl that's legit genius

[unique falcon]

@charred grove the point people are making is that you asked for something hugely broad and with no specification at all from the offset - you got a bit of a sarcastic answer but YOUR response to that tiny bit of sarcasm was wildly disproportionate

[charred grove]

i bet your mom cooks thats why you just compare withouth really knowing whats the difference

[brazen merlin]

omg where has this been all my life

[charred grove]

i already showed how social comunication goes

[unique falcon]

there's an etiquette when asking for help from people who aren't paid to help you, they're just doing it for free - offer a bit up front and people are more likely to help you

[charred grove]

i dont get mad if you dont answer

but i do get mad if you sarcastically mock me

[icy dragon]

You know how to do blueprint and using animation?

[green eagle]

Can an admin or mod deal with this.. cause somee of us want to talk about blueprint and not pamper a baby troll

[icy dragon]

That's the first clue. BP and anim works.

[brazen merlin]

is the guy still talking? just block him

[charred grove]

hahaha

my damn

[green eagle]

yeah i did too but i still see all the troll food going to them

[charred grove]

so this is what a cave Full of nerds is like

[icy dragon]

I was tasked to make a makeshift fishing system last year, so I'm gonna tease him.

[brazen merlin]

well ask away, im sure it will detract from it all

[charred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-omg-fish-shookt-triggered-gif-9720855

[brazen merlin]

im not your parent and im not a mod, do as you like, im out of it

[icy dragon]

Okay dad.

[charred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-kiss-kiss-me-kisser-kissed-gif-22467316

[unique falcon]

im on the fence, thought i could help a legitimately confused person

[brazen merlin]

oo that heat, i feel it

[charred grove]

yall live it too much

i asked a question

and everyone started screaming

like a karen

thats facts

[odd ember]

look man, if you had swallowed your pride instead of going on a tirade

we'd be having an entirely different conversation

[charred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-it-baby-cute-fish-tongue-out-wiggle-tongue-gif-16024753

[brazen merlin]

so anyways Prox, if you need help go ahead, not sure if i can help but im willing

[charred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/fiska-fisk-fishing-fish-fish-on-gif-16629689

[icy dragon]

You asked for how to make fishing system, right?
Blueprints, cable component, animation, a little bit of physics for bait buoyancy.

[odd ember]

does the fishing system come with fish?

[charred grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lafuddyduddy-dumb-stupid-hook-bite-gif-17141594

[icy dragon]

As for the reeling in the fish, you could improvise from a battle system. E.g. Decrease the fish HP over time, reckless reeling drains it more, if Fish HP = 0, then it escape.

[icy dragon]

@charred grove Good enough of a clue? I'm sure it is 😏

[charred grove]

nah, you covered it all up thanks!

https://tenor.com/view/fish-grill-cooking-food-cook-gif-17171404

im already cooking it and all

[icy dragon]

Enjoy your shit. 🙈

[charred grove]

you do take long for your comebacks huh?

[ripe notch]

Hey everyone, wondering if anyone can help. trying to create a seamless travel to a new level with a room and a door. But before the door can close I want to make sure all players are in the box collision. I have the door setup with an event so I can close it. Have a BP setup with component overlap, and I have an array of all of the players. But cannot figure out how to set it up to where it will check to see if all the players are in the box collision.

[odd ember]

well you can always assert that check on every player who enters the box

[dawn gazelle]

Every time something overlaps, the server should check the player list on the game state and compare it to an array that you add and remove to onbeingoverlap and onendoverlap.

[odd ember]

I'd probably add players uniquely to an array, then take the length of the array to equal CurrentAmountOfPlayers

[dawn gazelle]

Or that ^

[icy dragon]

I'm thinking this is similar to Left 4 Dead 2's safe room "system", so that's on Event OnBeginOverlap, and accumulate the surviving players.

[odd ember]

but yeah, remove them as well if they exit

crucial to avoid game breaking bugs

[ripe notch]

actually yeah exactly like the l4d safe room

This is what I have at the moment

[odd ember]

there's an AddUnique node for the array

for every overlap, cast to PlayerClass, then use the AddUnique to add them to an array, then check if the length is equal to CurrentPlayers

and if it is, do your logic

[ripe notch]

thank you going to give it a shot

[odd ember]

you dont need a loop

[ripe notch]

Thats what my mind came up with

[odd ember]

and adding integers to an integer array won't help you

the reason you need AddUnique is because you want to ensure that you are only adding unique players to an array of players

[ripe notch]

even when checking aginst the length of the current players?

[odd ember]

right now that integer array will only have 1 value filled, and that will be "1"

it's overengineered when it could be much simpler

try and follow what I wrote

that's the solution

[ripe notch]

If you have a min I would greatly appreciate the help, this is the last thing I need to do and I just cant seem to wrap my head around it

[odd ember]

ok just to be clear: you do not need to loop over this

you already know all the information from players entering the box

all you need to do is grab the OtherActor pin, cast it to <PlayerClass>, and AddUnique it to an array

then you check that array's length

as long as you do that every time you have an overlap, you will get consistent results

[odd ember]

almost

[ripe notch]

used a BPI instead of a cast

[odd ember]

it doesn't do the same thing

you need the cast because you want to use it as a filter

unless you wrapped a cast inside the BPI of course

[ripe notch]

and cast to the class not the object right

[odd ember]

cast to the object

only reason I said player class is because I don't what your player class is. but we're talking about the object

[ripe notch]

besides the cast, what else is wrong with what I have?

[odd ember]

the AddUnique node should go on a permanent variable. Is all players every player you have, or is it an array that you want to fill with players?

[ripe notch]

All players is the variable that holds all current players in the game and is set in the player state.

[odd ember]

then create a new array variable called PlayersInBox or something

and use AddUnique on that

and you need to compare the length of the array, not compare arrays themselves

for instance the array comparison will return false if the order is wrong

even if all players are there

[ripe notch]

Any closer?

[final python]

off topic, but how you make the flow lines bend at direct angles, and without having the reroute dots?

never seen it before and it looks clean af

[ripe notch]

there is a plugin called electronic nodes in the marketplace, its not expensive, and saves my insanity from looking a spaghetti

[final python]

oh sweet, may have to get it for mine as well lmao

[trim matrix]

Help! I attached a piece of cloth by making it a skeletal mesh and attaching that to my character mesh. I am dismembering a body part from my character, by hiding it. Problem is that the attached skeletal mesh goes invisible also. What to do?

using a masterpose component

[grand hawk]

How does the animation curve's value be determined when it plays blendspace? Is that value determined by average among animations on blendspace?

[astral cedar]

how can i see what input device is being used

[solemn musk]

Hello im trying to have a user hold down a button on a widget to perform an action but the button seems to release itself after a short period of time, is there a way I can remove that?

[brazen merlin]

try #umg sounds like you need to override a function of the widget

[glass crypt]

why would a pawn's on possessed event fire when it is sitting in the level, not being possessed? it's also isn't using auto possess player.

[brazen merlin]

auto possess player is, as it sounds, for the player. Is this a player or AI pawn?

[glass crypt]

it's a player pawn

[brazen merlin]

so you want no player pawns to be possessed?

you check the game mode settings?

[glass crypt]

yea don't want any pawns possessed

yeah it's not in the game mode

[brazen merlin]

as in default controller is cleared?

and is this also true in the world settings in the case that game mode would be overridden for the particular level?

[glass crypt]

yea it happens if i set it to the default player controller too

[brazen merlin]

well it should be cleared, as in no controller

is that possible?

[glass crypt]

no game mode override in the world settings

it says can't spawn player if there's no controller

[brazen merlin]

yes, that makes sense then

this is why the observer controller/pawn exists, which is essentially invisible

need a camera among other things

[glass crypt]

hrmm

[brazen merlin]

what are you trying to do?

[glass crypt]

i'm at a loss. tried everything.

it happens with all pawns in the level that have a on possessed event

[brazen merlin]

right, but why do you need them to not call this?

[glass crypt]

well it shouldn't for one, but beside that OnPossessed creates a widget that needs to only be in the viewport when the pawn is possessed.

also, it still lets my player possess it too.

[brazen merlin]

so all pawns create this widget? i guess i assume that if it is not permitted a controller it would no be possessed, but it sounds like now, that all pawns are being possessed?

[glass crypt]

ahh i think its being possessed by an AI controller, just noticed the value of the controller while debugging

[solemn zephyr]

is there a way to allow character movement component to jump while in flying movement mode

[brazen merlin]

cool? good then?

[brazen merlin]

I can't imagine such naturally

[glass crypt]

not yet. can't figure out why the AI controller is possessing it

[brazen merlin]

there is a similar setting to have the pawn not be possessed by AI

[glass crypt]

don't think so

[brazen merlin]

uh? don't think..?

[glass crypt]

ohh i just cleared AI controller class and that fixed it

[solemn zephyr]

I'll have to set up an impulse jump script then rip

[glass crypt]

still don't know why it was being possessed tho

but i can live with this for now

[sharp rapids]

I think that's what the native Jump function does anyway

Only it checks if you're grounded

[brazen merlin]

you can try launch character if applicable

[solemn zephyr]

I'll see if launch works

nvm impulse is what I need, I'm sure native jump uses an impulse but I need the character to jump in certain situations where it isn't grounded

[thorn ermine]

If you are referring to jump in CharacterMovementComponent it does not actually use impulse. 🙂
They have a complex implementation that uses DeltaTime with Velocity to move the character.
It kinda goes:

UCharacterMovementComponent::PerformMovement
UCharacterMovementComponent::StartNewPhysics
Then it depends on the MovementMode:
  UCharacterMovementComponent::PhysWalking
   
Here it will perform a lot of checks but uses step updated physics
   Jump is handled the same way and then recurses back into StartNewPhysics, they use Velocity basically, not Impulse. :)

[brazen merlin]

that makes sense because holding jump can achieve higher heights than a tap of jump

[thorn ermine]

Yeah, I mean they do use Impulse for things like providing the ability to handle collision responses for things like AddRadialImpulse, so they do have the ability to invoke it. Just not for actual usual movement. 🙂

[solemn zephyr]

that does make sense, variable jump height is why I wanted to use the default jump function

I think overriding the canjump function is what I actually need to do

I haven't done that before, do I just select canjump from the override list and fill in what I want it to do?

[brazen merlin]

sounds like you want to modify the one part, but overriding it will remove the previous functionality

you'd be writing your own jump function

you can try by overriding it and seeing if jump still works, would assume it wouldnt

[solemn zephyr]

it just outputs a boolean, would it still be called in the same places if I override it?

[brazen merlin]

the node? yeah

you're changing the logic within it

[solemn zephyr]

that's fine, I think that's what I need

[brazen merlin]

you might need to look at the cpp code to know what parts to recreate unless you're down with making your own complete jump function

[solemn zephyr]

how do I read it?

how do I get to it, that is

[brazen merlin]

thats not my wheelhouse, i assume you need to download the source code from github to see all the cpp classes then recreate the parts that makes it jump while modifying the part you want

and if this sounds like more work than it is, i would agree, i'd see what you can get done with launch character since that adds/overrides velocity and thats happening after the fact

[maiden wadi]

You just need a launcher version of UE Installed, and Visual Studio or Rider for UE

You can still read all source without the source code, just can't alter and rebuild it.

[solemn zephyr]

also why would I have to rewrite the jump function? I only want to change the one that says whether the jump function can be called

[maiden wadi]

If you want to alter the can jump based on your own things, but also consider the original implementation, you could just call the parent function, then possibly alter it based on your own needs.

[brazen merlin]

well thats one override does, since you want to change parts of it and its written in cpp not bp

[solemn zephyr]

I only need it to check a few conditions, I should be able to just rewrite it in bp

[brazen merlin]

you are right, but i think the project needs to be cpp unless this has since changed

[maiden wadi]

You just need to create a single C++ file from the editor and it'll convert it for you.

[supple bane]

how can I make a vector3's direction relative to the direction the player is facing?

would I just use 'get right vector'?

[maiden wadi]

Is this a point in space, or a directional vector?

[brazen merlin]

get the players forward vector

[supple bane]

directional

[solemn zephyr]

I'm fine with rewriting my own canjump function in bp, I was just confused because you were calling it the jump function

[maiden wadi]

Transform direction.

Er.

Inverse Transform Direction.

[brazen merlin]

well there is the "Jump" node, if you double click it it will try to open the cpp for it

you wanted to override it, so you would be changing all the code that is there already for your own

[solemn zephyr]

I don't need to change the jump node, just canjump

[supple bane]

if I have a vector 3, how would I change only one axis?

[brazen merlin]

boolean?

[brazen merlin]

getting the forward vector will return the player's forward facing direction as 1,0,0

[supple bane]

im using right vector

also i figured it out ty

[brazen merlin]

that would be to the right of the player

cool

[brazen merlin]

i guess im confused with canJump, sounds like a variable. I thought you wanted to access jump while they are "falling" so i assumed that would be changing the function call for Jump

[supple bane]

yes, the dash i am creating is to the right or left

[solemn zephyr]

I have my solution. the default jump node references this, which is what I need to rewrite.

[brazen merlin]

ah, then yeah, right vector. if you want left, multiple the right vector by -1

[brazen merlin]

i think i see where you're going with it, hope it works 🙂

[supple bane]

how do I get a gameobject's transform?

actor's***

[maiden wadi]

GetActorTransform.

@supple bane All GetActor(VectorThing) does is get the actor's root component, and get it's vectory thing. This applies for location, rotations, transforms, etc. In a character for instance, because the capsule is the character's root, this is identical.

[supple bane]

got it

im having trouble getting the player's local vector

meaning when I dash, I go in the same direction every time, no matter the rotation

heres my code

[tranquil hemlock]

silly question from a beginner but what event should I use to make widgets for the UI like healthbars, crosshairs etc? I don't wanna hook up a million widgets to event begin play and make the project all messy. or is that what you're supposed to do?

[brazen merlin]

gameobject? what is this unity? get actor transform

[supple bane]

ya lol sorry

[brazen merlin]

ah my bad, didn't read that it was already said

[solemn zephyr]

is it possible to send a 'target' pin through a function's input node?

[brazen merlin]

might help to watch a tutorial related to what you are trying to do exactly, im not super clear from the question

[brazen merlin]

functions need a target to call it on/from, usually self

what function are you calling and what do you want to feed it?

[supple bane]

I made it easier to look at, anyone have any ideas?

[tranquil hemlock]

basically trying to make a crosshair atm, already made a functioning health bar from another tut that uses event begin play. does it make sense to attach code for a dozen of widgets to event begin play or should they fire from their own specific events? to basically keep things neat and not have a million nodes attached to event begin play

[solemn zephyr]

I mean like how you can send a boolean through an output node for its return value

I don't think doing that is necessary for the function I'm writing to work but it'd be nice for organization

[brazen merlin]

begin play fires once at the start of play, so its fine to load as much as you like

[brazen merlin]

for a function you can add outputs

[solemn zephyr]

I'm asking if I can connect it like this, I'm guessing not because of what it says but I want to make sure

[brazen merlin]

yeah, def not that

it says target is nav movement component, is that something you have access to?

[solemn zephyr]

that's just what it says when you place the node, I'm changing it to character movement

[brazen merlin]

so for functions, target self means this bp

some functions needs a little more specificity

[brazen merlin]

the data type to feed into that function is contextual, so if you add an input to the function, it needs to match that context

your good like that

[solemn zephyr]

I just need to do this, I was wanting to put the character movement reference outside the function

but I can't which is also fine

[brazen merlin]

its better that way, seems redundant to pipe in when you call the function in places

[brazen merlin]

this is good, this is right

[solemn zephyr]

I only really wanted to do that because that's how the node was originally but it shouldn't matter

[brazen merlin]

ah, hmm, well, if you want i suppose you could, you'll find inputs and outputs on one side of the editor, click the + to add it

then change the data type to what it says when you hover over the blue input dot

[tranquil hemlock]

Would I be using a sequence node like this to add different UI elements or general functionality to begin play like this? I just want things to look clean and organised basically

[brazen merlin]

yeah, that's totally fine, sequence nodes are great for organizing what would otherwise be one long chain of nodes

I like this to easily disconnect chains for testing

[solemn zephyr]

not for the function's starting node, it doesn't matter though so I'll leave it at that

[supple bane]

this is still using world position for some reason

all the documents just tell me to use transform location or inverse transform location

but I try that, and nothing seems to work.

[maiden wadi]

@supple baneChange the transform node to Transform Direction. Inverse is for world to local. normal is for Local to World.

[supple bane]

I want it to use local

[maiden wadi]

Launch character does not use local space.

[supple bane]

is there a replacement that does?

[maiden wadi]

Not really. Just try it. Convert the right vector via Transform Direction. It'll give you the world direction that is right of the character. Then you can multiply it and use it.

[supple bane]

I tried it, it would just throw me in the same direction every time

[maiden wadi]

Er

Sorry, still waking up. Right vector is already world space. You shouldn't have to do anything but multiply it?

[supple bane]

Ive tried that

has the same exact problem

[maiden wadi]

🤷‍♂️ It works. I just double checked.

This launches my character to it's own right side.

[supple bane]

so get actor right is just left and right

[brazen merlin]

yeah i think you're doing more than you need to. to invert for left make it -1000 instead of +1000

[supple bane]

thats where I was confused, ty

[brazen merlin]

do what Authaer has tho, thats clean

[supple bane]

Ya I thought actor right was right of the original point, not right of the player's view. So I was trying to just get Y, which messed everything up

tysm, it works now

im falling in love with this enginge already, have a good night/morning

[brazen merlin]

awesome, glad its not too rough, gn

[supple bane]

K im having one more problem, its more of a nitpick but I want to fix it before I leave.

As of now, to dash you have to press shift THEN A or D.

I would like to be able to dash even if you are already holding A or D

by pressing A or D then Shift

heres my blueprint

[surreal peak]

Why do you hardcode the keys?

Use bindings and in those you can setup a Sprint Binding for Shift+A

[supple bane]

Because I don't know how else to do it

[surreal peak]

Or either way

Use bindings haha

In your project settings you have an input tab on the left

[supple bane]

alright

I will try that

[surreal peak]

There you can setup action and axis bindings

Action being press+release

[supple bane]

this is my first day coming from unity. so this is new

[surreal peak]

Axis being -1 to 1 constantly firing where no press gives 0. Mostly used for things like gamepad sticks

Yeah then better google a bit for the bindings

Pretty sure there are tutorials

[gentle urchin]

As Exi describes, this is what it looks like

[surreal peak]

If you want to dash with both orders in your current setup, make the dashing a new event or function

And call it from shift and from the input keys

And check in that function if you booleans are correct

[gentle urchin]

Tbf this is one of the topics where i find that most tutorials are going about this the wrong way

[surreal peak]

Movedown triggers me a bit

[gentle urchin]

atleast, that was the state the last time i checked

being action mappings ..

what to do

not sure why they are there tho tbh

[surreal peak]

It's just the name haha

MoveDown vs Movedown

[gentle urchin]

xD

You highlighted it for me tho

now im wondering wtf i was doing

[sharp rapids]

That just looks like Axis Mappings with extra steps 🤷‍♀️

[gentle urchin]

yep!

[sharp rapids]

Er, Axis Mappings

[gentle urchin]

action 😛

[gentle urchin]

faking axis

[supple bane]

the same thing is happening

is there A place for more precise control of keybinds?

[surreal peak]

You don't really need the IsA IsD here or?

[supple bane]

i guess not now

[surreal peak]

Also if you click on the event itself

There are options on the top right

There is a boolean called Consume event

[brazen merlin]

i think its to determine if it should be a left or right dash

[surreal peak]

Make sure if you use the same keys for multiple bindings that you disable that

[brazen merlin]

oh duh, yeah, nvm

[surreal peak]

Or consume input

Can't recall

Input in UE4 is a stack, so it goes from whoever is first down the line. If someone on the way consumes the event it will not be handed further

Which means only one of your bindings here would call

[supple bane]

heres what I have

consume input is disabled

Is there anything else that could work?

[gentle urchin]

is the events not firing at all?

or is the launch not working..

[supple bane]

it is

only if I hit shift before A or D

I want it the other way around

[gentle urchin]

i would guess that doesnt work

[supple bane]

wdym?

[gentle urchin]

just assuming that the shift pressed event doesnt get tied up to the action input event

shift is just a critera for the action event

[supple bane]

oh ya

[gentle urchin]

Pretty sure you'd need your previous setup for this

tying them together

[supple bane]

the one thing that worked was having isshift be connected to the branch first, but of course, it could only be attached to one side or the other

[brazen merlin]

use IsInputKeyDown

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/BlueprintAPI/Game/Player/IsInputKeyDown/

[gentle urchin]

not very nice

[brazen merlin]

you can use IsInputKeyDown with the other setup coming from the inputs

ie, DashLeft > IsInputKeyDown > True, launch character

check for shift key

[gentle urchin]

and shift check for A, and shift check for B

one of them always having prio in case both were pressed

but thats fine

[brazen merlin]

yeah, thats the player's fault 😛

[sharp rapids]

I'm guessing you're using A and D keys for other movement also?

[supple bane]

yes

so I use squize's method?

[gentle urchin]

you can block outside the function, instead of inside

[sharp rapids]

The way I did it is simply having a 'Dash' Action mapping

[timber knoll]

ye would you not just have a dash

and then check the key pressed?

instead of checking it on left/right keys

[sharp rapids]

On pressing the Dash key, you simply check which way your character is currently going and dash that way

[gentle urchin]

^