game-jam-chat

[tulip viper]

wait

wtf

its not jittery....

....

what....

i need sleep 🙂 lmao anyway, i have no clue, thanks for listening to my rambling

[zinc juniper]

Lol

Time to take a nap is what I would say

[wintry skiff]

a break can always help

what do you all think? Should I give the occasional pipe a color like I did here? Or does it look goofy hmm

[zinc juniper]

Yeah certainly. Sleep is important

[wintry skiff]

I think i kinda like it

[zinc juniper]

Not sure if I like it

Good to have variation though, thats for sure

Better then all greyish

[wintry skiff]

Is it the color I chose? Or just in general uncertainty

yeah I agree

Right now I mainly have red lights to break up the black and white tones

So having anything seems useful

I like the way red pipes look but that just means I only have red in my level herelol

[zinc juniper]

Maybe a little bit less saturated green, I'm not really certain though

[wintry skiff]

Yeah that uh sounds about right tbh

it is a bit intense I suppose

im going to tweak it a bit thanks

[tulip viper]

Final boss room made, time to fix up some animations, and then... particles....

[wintry skiff]

nice

[toxic wing]

Got it down to around 75 MB, with the tradeoff of limited music and PS1 esque graphics.
Wished that tracker music support in UE4 isn't broken.
Now I need to take some rest because power outages kills me in the last few hours.

[hollow ridge]

Question. For the 150mb category, do the game files need to be 150mb or less or can a compressed (zipped) game will qualify.

[pale eagle]

I read it as a 150mb download, so the zip

[hollow ridge]

Thanks

[pale eagle]

I'm not an authority though, but that is how I read it 😛

[minor hemlock]

It's the plain packaged folder size btw

not zip

@hollow ridge @pale eagle

[pale eagle]

Hmmmm, I may have to figure out how to cut my package size in that case

Anyone have a tutorial? I've followed the basics, and I don't have that many assets

[rugged plaza]

@minor hemlock are you guys gonna try to shave off that 6MB?

[minor hemlock]

I literally just said it was unpacked size :p

We have like 20+mb that needs shaved off for that

[minor hemlock]

https://github.com/pfist/Nano

Check the bottom for resources

[toxic wing]

Not the authority, but it should be the game in uncompressed state.
You can cheat the system with more aggresive 7z compressions.

Compromise of disabling nearly every plugins, and also no multiplayer subsystems whatsoever.

[minor hemlock]

and not using the latest and greatest version 😅 that's the primary reason we're not attempting that modifier

[toxic wing]

I used 4.26

[minor hemlock]

too bad backporting isn't simple 😛

[toxic wing]

Granted, my game jam project is PS1-esque graphics.

[gentle beacon]

I added difficulty settingss to my project now. Lol

[toxic wing]

Textures are no larger than 128x128, sound effects are largely from synthesis and convolution reverb.

Also no voice acting.

Mainly taking cue from Vagrant Story, of which the entire game was stuffed in around 96 MB. It was quite small sized for PS1 game, but rich in content.

[gentle beacon]

I'm not even gonna try squash my games size. Will do what i can to optimise but not gonna give myself a headache tryna fit it into the tiny category. Currently the working exe is 560mb

[minor hemlock]

oof

you have some assets

the lowest hanging fruit is enabling Cook Only Maps if you haven't done that already 🙂

[gentle beacon]

one meta human casual shoes and material, some sounds, and 4 aqssets from kitbash

[toxic wing]

I've been trained for smaller sizes lol
Retro games and demoscene are my favourites, of course I impose myself such limitations.

MetaHumans are lazy (to put it bluntly)

[gentle beacon]

I'm only using the shoes. Deleted the rest, the whole metahuman folder is 45mb after i removed what i didnt need

[toxic wing]

My entire 750 tris for a character, barely reached 16 MB.

Maybe not even 4 MB, because I'm sure she can fit within actual PS1's 2 MB of RAM.

[stoic sedge]

I wonder what are the rules for .apk and multi-platform submissions

[minor hemlock]

I've always wondered about that too 🙂

[gentle beacon]

When i can afford to get a maya license then i make my own characters, been trying to get used to blender but everytime i open blender i get depressed cos its not maya. lol

[minor hemlock]

typically the mobile games haven't been at the same level though, have any won outside of their category? 👀

[stoic sedge]

well, we go for vr

pc and quest both

[rugged plaza]

I think I can squeeze 4 levels into my 2D game in 4.27 and still have 30Mb 😆

[toxic wing]

I'm the exact reverse.

[rugged plaza]

Add more music

[stoic sedge]

every time blender crashes I question myself

[toxic wing]

Really wished Sound Mod plugin didn't broken as it is. Otherwise I could reduce space even more - in the Impulse Tracker form, the entire music fits in less than 512 KB, using samples from Unreal.

[stoic sedge]

no crashes in this jam, though
lucky so far

probably cause I used houdini most of the time lol

[toxic wing]

I've been in less fortunate side due to constant 4+ hours of power outage every day.

Looks like my area's power company hates game jam, because it conveniently starts after the kickoff.

[gentle beacon]

Had one crash, but only cos i tried deleting something that didnt want to be deleted hahaha

[toxic wing]

Blender never crashed on me, for 4 years. Any data loss would be from power failure.

It's been notorious for power failure, and the power company pretends nothing wrong with it.

[gentle beacon]

I had that problem when i entered the gamedev.tv jam. That was my first jam, this is my second. I learnt from that jam that making four different games combined into one is not good for jamtime deadlines hahaha.

[stoic sedge]

woah, that's really cool
the most hilarious crash for me was when I just tried to hide one specific bone in a rig
and that happened like several times
even got worried about file being corrupted, but fixed the problem smh

[toxic wing]

After jam, remind me to port libopenmpt as a UE plugin

[toxic wing]

Everyone looking for smaller size games must relive the old tracker music experience and its versatility.

[minor hemlock]

same video @turbid socket 👀

[gentle beacon]

Thats a big map

[minor hemlock]

for kicks and giggles I more aggressively disabled plugins

now that the game is getting finalized

[toxic wing]

It's a shame Unreal kinda forgets about tracker music, when it was one of the major thing with Unreal Engine 1

[minor hemlock]

my understanding is you don't need to blacklist unless you're referencing an asset you don't want to package.. in which case don't reference that 😛

[toxic wing]

But then people these days ignorantly mix up MIDI sequence and tracked music format

[turbid socket]

Extremely sorry for the multiple videos 😅

I was trying to upload but it just won't go.. my phone just hangs 🙊

[turbid socket]

Yeah I will shorten it due to lack of time..

Tbh I don't think I can even finish it 😂.. just trying..

[glass fossil]

Apparantly my character doesn't like easy mode so he doesn't even let the player play easy mode

I think you posted in the wrong chat

[turbid socket]

He is like nahhh lol

[zinc juniper]

Man I always get scared when the save button takes too long to apply

Thankfully it goes right a lot of times

[gentle beacon]

I've not added alot of stuff i wanted to add to make sure i can finish. I wanted to add a long jump and a high jump event and also hurdles but creating just this 3 round race took me the whole week.

[zinc juniper]

I'm probably not going for the tiny goal, my build currently is 350mb, how much of that can I shave off without much work?

[gentle beacon]

I remember seeing a compression tool a few years ago called uarc or or something like that that could compress 2 gigs into 50 mb. That would be the perfect tool right now.

[pale eagle]

Ah, the development build was tacking on another 100mb. that was what was killing me

[minor hemlock]

peek through the plugins list and disable the ones that can safely be tossed. I got my 100mb off by tossing things like denoiser, networking, movie playing, etc. and removing the prereqs installer

getting 200mb off though? 😬

unless you have some really low hanging fruit in the packaging options

[pale eagle]

Dev -> Shipping build is a big win. Shutting off plug ins. Downsizing textures was a big one for me. Saved me 50mb

[zinc juniper]

Thanks for the tips Partly

Also, is UE4PrereqSetup_x64 safe to remove from builds?

takes up 40mb

[minor hemlock]

yes

you might want to provide two builds though if you want it played outside of the jam 🙂

one with prereq installer and one without

[pale eagle]

I wasn't particularly careful with my UV/texturing so I had a lot of custom textures, and then I wasn't careful with packing/sizing those to need

[zinc juniper]

Hmm okay thanks for the tips guys

[minor hemlock]

OH another hot tip

loading project

🐌

note that these are rough estimates, since they'll get compressed during packaging

[zinc juniper]

Oh thats really neat

Love that UE has features like these

[minor hemlock]

looks like my total pak file is 45mb

total of all my maps is ~100mb on the sizemap

[gentle beacon]

https://gyazo.com/8f703dcef15e6d6a81684e27c9ccbb06 Well damn, my audio doesnt even show hahaha

[minor hemlock]

you can highlight all of your maps and do a size map on them all at the same time too

you might have a lot of gains from shrinking those textures 😮

we threw out all of the kitbash textures and replaced with some more boring ones

[gentle beacon]

Was just looking at that.

[minor hemlock]

I think there's a global setting where you can cap texture size

might try a build with it at 1024 or 2048

[gentle beacon]

But then again, the meshes alone already cap the tiny category. Shrinking texture sizes would only be for optimization

[minor hemlock]

they're not bad individually a couple of the meshes are big though 🤔

wonder if you can force which LOD gets baked? 😛

LOD1 should be more than sufficient for anything except playable area 😂

[toxic wing]

NGL it feels satisfying to wrote a little f=== you to the power line company for the collateral damage throughout the jam 🙂

[minor hemlock]

🙂

[gentle beacon]

https://gyazo.com/b3f5c0e66c7ef13b60d8c652421069d9 The good news is all levels together dont change much in size on disk

[minor hemlock]

[regal swallow]

Noob question, probably, but theres no problem if i stick with the fps arms from the template and re-color them, right?

[minor hemlock]

I should write up a doc on attempting tiny award 🤔

[minor hemlock]

honestly you don't even need to recolor them

just make sure you aren't literally submitting the template really

there was a winner in a past year that was all engine assets

[gentle beacon]

https://gyazo.com/0a485fcaf6c372e7c426dab770e3d268 accidental effect

[regal swallow]

yeah, exceeds the gameplay found in the template.

[minor hemlock]

z-fighting, memnoch?

trippy 😄

[gentle beacon]

Was accidental. Set skysphere to have a slow rotation rate and discovered i had somehow added to skyspheres, so just changed the mat on the one and this is what i got.

watch everyone now add more skypheres hahaha

[regal swallow]

oh shit, that actually looks really cool, tho

[radiant trellis]

hi guys im trying to package my game but im getting this error in uat

UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: === Handled ensure: ===
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error:
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: Ensure condition failed: !FPackageName::IsShortPackageName(Path) [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/CoreUObject/Private/UObject/SoftObjectPath.cpp] [Line: 79]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: Cannot create SoftObjectPath with short package name 'False'! You must pass in fully qualified package names
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: Stack:
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffe908718a9 UE4Editor-CoreUObject.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffe90748b4c UE4Editor-CoreUObject.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffe906c15d9 UE4Editor-CoreUObject.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)):   LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffe906d0c59 UE4Editor-CoreUObject.dll!UnknownFunction []

[civic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-majora-finalday-gif-9607331

How's everyone doing?

[wintry skiff]

I'm about to sleep and will have to finish when I wake up

I need to add a lot of level stuff and a tutorial and then package

[civic dock]

Be sure to leave yourself time to upload the final build and fill out the submission form!

[wintry skiff]

Yeah definitely

[toxic wing]

Getting screwed over by power outage

If anything, I think I'm going to embarrass myself with what I got.

[stable kiln]

my 2 characters are hands down best i ever done on a gamejam

but the odds they get submitted is pretty low

[tepid edge]

I have at least 2 hours of homework to do today, which isn't great, but I think I'll have time to submit something decent for the jam

[gentle beacon]

I'm busy dressing the widgets i had as placeholders. After that it's also fine tuning.

[glass fossil]

Like legit when i play the game, game works fine, after packaging it breaks for some reason

[gentle beacon]

Must i list stuff like the skysphere from engine content?

I did modify it so i"ll list it just in case. Or rather i"m using it as an effect for my intro so its kindof a feature so i think listing it would be a good idea.

[minor hemlock]

@civic dock since your template is kind of a go-to resource for Tiny Award, maybe you could add a bit more about disabling plugins? 🙃 doesn't necessarily have to be specifics but a reminder that "If you're not using multiplayer, disabling networking plugins will cut down on size"

of course, godspeed if you want to catalogue plugin build size

[young night]

Just finished the splash art for our submission! 🧀🐀 We are having a blast! Can wait for tomorrow! We truly came together as a team@agile plover @humble badger ♥

[stable kiln]

@thick breach you dont need to publicly list assets anymore

[minor hemlock]

yep, but this year I really had to take the banhammer to plugins to fit 😮 the thought didn't really occur to me until today when @toxic wing mentioned it

[gentle beacon]

That looks really awesome

[stable kiln]

the submission form

dont think so, it asks for email

[toxic wing]

NGL. I'm disappointed with my progress. and only have myself to blame from the progress loss.

Every power outage happens in the middle of disk I/O, I had to redo several things i worked for few hours.

Been thinking of bailing out (again)

I had lost around a day of progress
The urge to just quit is so high, but I practically will gain nothing. But if I submit it now, I'll embarrass myself with unplayable mess.

[glass fossil]

Man, really feel bad for ya, that's why i just spam the save now button every time i do something new

[toxic wing]

Problem is the power outage happens in the middle of disk I/O, whilst saving. Thus losing my progress, and corrupted the saves.

[glass fossil]

if you won't submit, that'd be like a comple waste of 7 days, so just submit it anyways, you still have time to make it playable

[glass fossil]

that sucks

[toxic wing]

Isn't that considered cheating?

[glass fossil]

what?

[toxic wing]

I mean, the stakes for this jam is high IMO, so the rules would be strict.

[glass fossil]

isn't there like 24 hours still left 🙃

[toxic wing]

Yeah, but submitting unplayable build?

[glass fossil]

that's why im saying you can try to make it a playable build in these 24 hours

and people submit unfinished builds everytime, you'll find a lot of those tomorrow

[toxic wing]

Textures were corrupted, and those are hand drawn. i have exhausted myself from it.

[glass fossil]

was every single one of them corrupted?

[toxic wing]

Git repo is a bit behind.

[toxic wing]

Majority of them are.

Some survived, but those were some level textures.

[glass fossil]

Yeah even in the theme reveal the host's were like spamming source control every now and then

[stable kiln]

he said hes prolly not playin this time

[gentle beacon]

I've had power losses aswell where i lose all my work, For me i noticed it happens when you working on a blueprint when the power goes. I've only got nearly a year under the belt with ue4 so i havent reached that stage where i know how to track history in editor but i found by deleting the asset i was working on would solve the problem. Now if i know theres gonna be loadshedding i create backups every half hour and delete the old backup once the new one is done. We regularly have loadshedding in this country so between backups and the save button i mostly get saved but not always. They never stick to schedules so every now and then i cry. hahaha

[toxic wing]

I'm sure sneaking in v1.1 build after submission before review is cheating, and they only play the v1.0 anyway.

[stable kiln]

#game-jam-chat message

[glass fossil]

I've been really lucky for some reason power only goes out after i click the save all button 5 seconds before lol

[toxic wing]

I think I might quit anyway and just release it on my own, no stakes involved.

[gentle beacon]

Submit it and get tips and ideas early bug issues

[toxic wing]

Well, I'm honestly disappointed with v1.0, submitting it would like running naked on the street while everyone else already got nice clothes.

Not even playable nor remotely coherent UX wise

Building would take 2 hours, and uploading is a total gamble due to shitty internet.

That's on you.

My PC is low end enough, it warranted a poor shaming, and building took long enough.

Maybe this kind of high stake game jam isn't for the weaklings after all.

Compiling shaders...

[radiant trellis]

does anyone know how to fix this error:

UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)): LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: Ensure condition failed: !FPackageName::IsShortPackageName(Path) [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/CoreUObject/Private/UObject/SoftObjectPath.cpp] [Line: 79]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (64-bit)): LogInit: Display: LogOutputDevice: Error: Cannot create SoftObjectPath with short package name 'False'! You must pass in fully qualified package names

[gentle beacon]

I been test packaging every time i finish adding something ever since i got the full loop. So far no issues, other than intro widget and audio dont match what it does in editor, like 1 sec or less difference.

[toxic wing]

Shader compiling is the main offender for the long build times.

It got rebuilt everytime on my end, even in my test runs.

Likely didn't help that I keep modifying teeny bit of the materials to adjust to my needs.

[toxic wing]

Probably one of your asset has the word 'False'

It just weird, and even considering this is a fresh 4.26.2 vanilla from the launcher. Updating out of necessity for making tools couple weeks prior.

[radiant trellis]

where would i be looking for that, from what ive read its a broken variable or soemthing but ive go through all my bblueprints

[gentle beacon]

https://youtu.be/kTZ7RI-I9B4 intro so far

[autumn plaza]

Hey guys, we need some info regarding GameJam submissions. Can we upload builds to submission more than once before the deadline?

[toxic wing]

If it's the same game, and were made during the course of the jam, then yes. Though I think you can't sneak in more builds after the deadline.

[autumn plaza]

Yea, we can't update anything after submission. We wanted to have a build ready online just in case we end up missing the deadline. Last time it was too much to handle last minute issues!!

[proper vortex]

@toxic wing Yea its rough, I'm probably not gonna sleep today

[minor hemlock]

hah fml, I was doing some calculations with vectors where I didn't care about Z

so... at some point I did an element-wise divide 🙃 both Z's were 0

it trashed the entire vector

[proper vortex]

contemplating on whether I should sleep or not...

[glass fossil]

It's been a long time since i've been doing vector calculations for load's of stuff and i still don't properly know the directional difference between X, Y and Z axis🙃

[minor hemlock]

that's because it's different in every piece of software 😛

[glass fossil]

I have decided i'm not gonna sleep today, final day requires some dire efforts, have a truck loads of thigs to do

[brisk zealot]

hello

just woke up lol its 3 AM

[glass fossil]

yeah, one seconds blender has X in specific direction, then there's unreal

[toxic wing]

Im not even taking a sleep for the past 12 hours. And I have 12 hours of final stretch.

Not to mention the risk of daytime power outage.

I swear, I'll resign and cancel my jam project if they turn off the power in day time.

[gentle beacon]

Same here

[toxic wing]

Don't care if my kidney kinda suffered by the caffeine in the process. Power line company can laugh on them.

[tepid edge]

12 hours of final stretch? Why not 24 hours?

[toxic wing]

24 hours = waste

[tepid edge]

I mean, are you just gonna not use the last 12 hours after your 12 hour final stretch? Not to say you should since sleep is good and important, but it's there for the taking

[toxic wing]

Because making and uploading the build within that time

[toxic wing]

My internet and power line is so unreliable.

Who knows if both of the ISP and power line operators point their final middle finger on me before deadline.

[tepid edge]

That's fair and valid. Definitely good to start the build process sooner than later, but it's still a free 12 hours for bug fixes and last minute improvements. Stuff that if they don't make it into the final build it'll be survivable, but still worth doing.

But to be clear: I'm not going to be doing that, just it is a valid strategy for last minute improvements.

I'm skipping a lot of things because I'm sleepy and I don't intend to win anything anyways.

[toxic wing]

Better not say it, it's going to be hypocritical

Nobody is going to be playing it if I'm releasing it on my own.

Thus this high stake of a jam.

At the same time, I'm still worried that external factors still going to give one last "fuck you" to me throughout the day.

[glass fossil]

SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK
--Game jammers

[tepid edge]

Ultimately I just want to release this as a free/very cheap steam game before the end of the year, so this jam has been a huge success in actually getting something playable.
Granted I'll probably need to remake everything over the next month or so, but it's still an amazing proof of concept.

I'D LIKE TO SLEEP FOR A WEEK
--Me

[toxic wing]

Meanwhile my narcoleptic self disagrees.

I probably going to take equivalent to hibernation after this.

I have suffered oversleeping for years, not sure if jamming could remedy it, because "sleep debt" is a thing.

Ended up dumbing it down.

Not worth hurting myself that far for some gamedev clout/reputation.

Also Im not sure energy drink can suppress narcolepsy.

[tepid edge]

There is no limit to what is acceptable when chasing clout

Yuck. I have to do homework now so I can do my final burn uninterrupted 😦

[toxic wing]

Marketing is tough, more so for a free game.

[tepid edge]

Regarding your jam page? Or about what I said for my Steam plans?

[toxic wing]

In general.

[tepid edge]

Yeah, I honestly have no idea how the big free-game hits have succeeded.

[little crane]

where should I post to get some assistance on fixing build errors?

[toxic wing]

#packaging

[tepid edge]

At least personally I've stopped paying much mind to it though. I'm chasing a degree, so any and all game dev I do at this point is just for my own benefit and if no one ends up playing or caring about the things I make I'll try not to take it to heart 😛

[toxic wing]

It's kinda random, but at least established game jams increase the guarantee of it (not just some random jams established by some lesser known parties)

[tulip viper]

20 some odd hours, and the main level to balance!!

so close!! 😛 i did get 4hrs of sleep though

woo

[tepid edge]

Nice! Same here

[toxic wing]

Speaking of building, I don't know why my vanilla UE4.26.2 loves compiling 2K+ shaders every build.

Did some sanity check, figured out that it has to be bruteforced to sped things up.

[little crane]

aaah lol I fixed it 😄 , was just a plugin I shouldn't have deleted haha

[toxic wing]

But 2K+ shader compiling every build is just bizzare.

[little crane]

best of luck in the last 24 hours everyone!

[lime crane]

I started to stop caring about if stuff looks good or not. lol

[proper vortex]

damnnnn thinking of how much left I have to do is making me depressed...

[agile plover]

Wohooooo, our team prepared the submission for the game jam! Check it out! (Haven't uploaded the game itself yet though)
https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam/rate/1182934

[fleet finch]

wow that looks incredible!

[toxic wing]

[stoic sedge]

I did get only 2 nights of good sleep this week, was too stressed for it most of the time lol
But those 2 nights were just amazing :D gonna survive tomorrow smh, I haven't slept for 26 hours already and not sure if I'm gonna fit it in

[toxic wing]

This is quite good tbh

Makes mine looks like nothing in comparison lmao

[stoic sedge]

That's a really cool idea and great implementation!

[agile plover]

don't underplay yourself! i'm sure your game is dope

[toxic wing]

Well, (sort of) mindless PS1-style dungeon crawler, fighting so called "Space Eaters".

though NGL I had a bit of Metal Gear Solid prior to the jam

Thus Space Eaters

[tiny hollow]

Do the tiny games have to be 150mb uncompressed? or can the zip I'm uploading be < 150mb?

[minor hemlock]

uncompressed

[toxic wing]

The former.

Consider that UE4 (at least 4.26) executable alone took up 60 MB, that would be 90 MB worth of asset at most.

[maiden loom]

90mb is a lot

[toxic wing]

Though I'm not sure how my mundane tool can get into 40 MB

I guess 32-bit is the secret?

There's an option in Project Settings to force 32-bit, under Platform > Windows

[tiny hollow]

ah man, 172mb. so close. Time to download 4.27 and crank out the new compression stuff!

[toxic wing]

I won't hold my breath if I were you.

Base engine executable alone would take up around 60 MB.

[tiny hollow]

wait, do I have to have the UE4PrereqSetup_x64.exe redist in the project too?

that's 40mb!

[toxic wing]

No, you can have it a separate download.

[exotic mountain]

i share https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam/rate/1183069

[tulip viper]

Anybody help me understand how level streaming works i ue5

its greyed out... why....

found it! 🙂

[storm temple]

me racing to finish my game

[tulip viper]

grr

nevermind.... i got it loaded in levels but its not loading on startup

annoyoin

default streaming method is always loaded

GOT IT

woot

[storm temple]

that scares me if you need level streaming in game jam game

[tulip viper]

im not doing it for that

im doing it so i dont have to copy pasta the level to the main menu and credits menu 😛

i just stream the level to the "main menu" level and any changes I made are now in that main menu 😛

same for credits

level editor hack 😉

[glass fossil]

Oh God forgive me for what i have created.
I was fixing the aim offset and playing around with the control rotation and somehow made this monster

[tulip viper]

what the metric

lol

[toxic wing]

So turns out 32-bit packaging did reduce the .exe file down to 50 MB 😮

If you all looking for smaller file size, consider building for 32-bit. There's no real compromise for game jam size ditching 64-bit executable.

[gentle beacon]

Looks like something to do with local and relative something.

[glass fossil]

Yeah, i wanted to make the aim system smoother so i added 3 bone transform, and assigned 3 spine to it 🙃 So for some reason it ate away his 2 spine

But i fixed it now

[tulip viper]

https://riuthamus.itch.io/darkship

newest compiled version!!! anybody curious or just want to test things while done, feel free to let me know any issues

thanks

[zinc juniper]

Hey just gave it a try

ragdolls fall through the floor for me

Also when dieing, and going back to the main menu

the credits brings me back to the score menu

Anything specific you want me to check?

[carmine kindle]

I have learned an important lesson from this jam... If you're making a space game, don't name everything you do "space-" something. All my files are like "spaceman" "spaceship" "spacesphere" "spacegun" and I can't find anything. 😀

[tepid edge]

Well, I'm all caught up on my other obligations for the rest of the week, looks like I have a solid 20 hours left to finish my entry
Maybe a quick nap wouldn't hurt

[gentle beacon]

i name my character william everytime i work on a project so typing will... will always return my character :p

[steady axle]

Hey! Have a question about the "Sources sound" usage in the jam game. So, what is sourced sound exactly? Sound samples for our sound work are taken from sound libraries. However, we are layering multiple samples on top of each other and heavily editing them for the final sound effects, before adding them to the game. Should we declare them as sourced audio, or are they considered authentic sounds?

[maiden loom]

in the past we've declared when we've used sample libraries

[hearty ferry]

Seeing how much I've done today feels good, but then seeing how much I still want to do kinda rains on that parade

Good luck in this last stretch everyone

[cursive vale]

Only asking here cuz it's time sensitive, but anybody know why unreal might load the incorrect materials on a mesh at runtime? It only happens on occasion but it's more than a little annoying

[rugged plaza]

OMG I am about to package this finally

@glass fossil didn't they say we cN make gameplay videos AFTER the jam is over?

Dang. I still have tomorrow morning anyway

Seems like we could edit the page just not the uploads. I'll make a note this jam

What did u make this time? I have been too engulfed to look

I made Pepe Vs The Volcano 2D rush platformer

Oh yeah! I saw that one!

I will this weekend. Wife is already mad at me

Good luck!

[minor hemlock]

known nanite bug 😦

just updated our game with fresh new beats no more premade music for us

[tulip viper]

in classic gamejam fashion

adding features in last day 😉

if it works... though....

😉

[rugged plaza]

Omg testing 😳 @tulip viper

[tulip viper]

😛

im adding in root motion spawns 😛

from vents, the room

[rugged plaza]

Roll em dice lol

[tulip viper]

so that way it looks like the place is being overrun 😉

[rugged plaza]

Nice!

[tulip viper]

we will see if it works out 😛

have them sliding out of the vent too

[rugged plaza]

I packaged in at 101Mb without prereq installer 140Mb with. I guess I will just leave them so one download. Keep it simple

@tulip viper have videos yet?

[tulip viper]

i should in like.. 1m

basically they hang there till you get close

then drop down

😉

[rugged plaza]

Hahahahahaha

Looks spooky

[carmine kindle]

I haven't had a jam this stressful in a long time. 👽 😀 👽

[tulip viper]

lighting is in dev mode

and particles are not done (that is what I am doing now)

i finished all the animations, but here is a video of the "general" gameplay "sped up"

[fleet finch]

can't wait to play it! Looks awesome (once lighting is turned on)

[tulip viper]

yeah, lighting makes 100000% the difference

and I get these creepy fuckers to scurry around, will also make it feel more .....scary

😉

[lime crane]

I like the graphics but I think you overscoped a bit, a lot of small stuff is missing or needs to be reworked.

[tulip viper]

like?

[lime crane]

but I will play some of the entries after deadline tomorrow.

[minor hemlock]

Added a completely new minimap feature. It took an absurd amount of time --------to get the overlay to line up with the artists background 😬

[tulip viper]

lol

yeah, done that before

well the art part 😛 not the code part

LMAO

[minor hemlock]

The code was easy 😂

[lime crane]

its too many stuff and you need to see it yourself. like the animations, particles the locomotion controller, ai behaviour. dont know about sound.

[tulip viper]

shrugs we are doing mostly polish today, so i think we did better than most jams

and I always go all out on art 😉

always

[minor hemlock]

On a scale of 1 to jam game its very much at "jam game and a half"

[tulip viper]

we didnt do MP either

which is a almost, never, thing for me

so some firsts as scale back, but i get why you say that

we will see 😉

you could be right

it could be mroe polished with less things in for sure

im just now balancing the main level too

and we added a VERY detailed tutorial

so..

some bad choices, for sure

[lime crane]

Im not saying its bad, its just need more work and there is not much time, but I kinda have the same issue a lot of small stuff need to be tweaked and adjusted to make it round.

how many jams have you done so far?

[celest wedge]

hoping to get this finished tonight

[tulip viper]

10

maybe 20... 😛

[minor hemlock]

I feel like I've seen riuthamus in every Epic jam I've done so far :o

[lime crane]

okay lol

[minor hemlock]

Which is only 3 years worth but still 😂

[tulip viper]

I have been

every megajam and like 7 or so of the quarterly

i did win one... with @gaunt copper , thanks to CATZ ❤️ tanks

fun little game

[lime crane]

yes I know that game.

graphics were nice.

[tulip viper]

😉

well thanks

[lime crane]

I could get done a lot of stuff today, yeah many small things are still ahead. but I should get everything done in time.

[tawny tide]

Question. I made a game for an epic game jam in the past and was wondering what the rules are on finishing and releasing a game that was once used in a game jam

[minor hemlock]

Well you'd have to declare it as a pre-made asset......

[fleet finch]

I finally packaged and got my game uploaded. Would love any feedback:
https://cryocode.itch.io/ruin-from-above

[tulip viper]

So, say we have sounds we got from a website....

that mean we get 0 points?

for sound?

so it would be the same as having NO sound?

[glass fossil]

I think we get point's in the composition area, cuz the sound made the game alive, off course you won't be judged on the quality of sound but how you used the sound would be judged

[tulip viper]

time to find sounds lol

sighs

any reason my particle system wouldnt spawn

?

[fleet finch]

If it's Niagara you usually have to spawn a system with the emitter inside of it.

[tulip viper]

its not

im spawning legacy particle

[earnest pilot]

we're getting there 👀

how's everyone doing?

[drifting jasper]

have you confirmed that it's triggering the take damage event? @tulip viper

[tulip viper]

hm...

confirmed, no, but it is losing HP

so... yes

😛

but that specific one, no

ill verify with debug ❤️ ty

[hollow ridge]

Just submitted my game. Still more levels to add. You play as a stealth cube.

https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam/rate/1182354

[cursive vale]

Trying to speedrun my soundtrack right now. Ableton isn't cooperating, but it's getting done 🙃

[lime crane]

I had such a nice lighting/posteffect mix, I hit rebuild light and everything changed to ass.

[toxic wing]

I used OpenMPT for the soundtrack, giving not so subtle nod to Unreal '98 lmao

Gotta make a super last minute adjustment because things seems going nicely this time:
Space Eaters are metaphorical plague that kinda parallel to fog of war.

[tulip viper]

lol... too fun

[frozen thicket]

Wonder why there is many box with "Running Out Of Space" theme. 😆

Deadline is ticking... Good luck to everyone

[toxic wing]

"A box? In here?"

[drifting jasper]

we're doing space

literally

[tulip viper]

Does the recorded video have to be DONE before submission or can it be done, a few min after the submission

[drifting jasper]

which recorded video? I only see that you need to upload your game.

[tulip viper]

You will need the following information at the time of submission:

Team Name
Each Team Member's Name and Email Address associated with your Epic Games account
Game Name
Name of your submission
Please format the name of your .zip file with your team's name attached, ex. TeamName_GameName
List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission.
Submissions must include a link to gameplay footage (between 30-60 seconds) demonstrating recorded gameplay.
The footage will be included in our highlight reel on the 2020 Epic MegaJam results livestream.

MUST INCLUDE

[frozen thicket]

In list of submit game. There many game with box like package things. Also have some of about hard drive disk. 😆

[tulip viper]

also, looks like some legacy features dont work anymore with cascade 😦

[frozen thicket]

You need to include game play footage on submit form. When jam close, you can't edit anything

[tulip viper]

so footage needs to be done BEFORE

thats ... silly

[drifting jasper]

oh derp

can't read

xD

thanks

[tulip viper]

here for you guys 😉 i guess 😛

im going to get the worst 30 seconds of footage LMAO

[regal swallow]

would it be against the rules if i can ask people to playtest my game the day before submission? trying to make sure my game isn't too difficult

[frozen thicket]

As I read, answer is "it won't". We also need to test our game before submit to found if anything goes wrong anyway.

[regal swallow]

fantastic

another question, is there a specific way they want us to source our assets we didn't make ourselves? or am i allowed to say that only the programming and voice acting (which i'm hoping to do tomorrow) is mine and everything else was third party

[frozen thicket]

@regal swallow you need to list any source assets as it name and where it's come from, accordingly answer of one staff on this post: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/2021-epic-megajam-registration-is-now-open/244059/79?u=deercg

[regal swallow]

got it, i had seen a few submissions that kind of differentiated, maybe, so i wasn't too sure

[earnest pilot]

I forced myself to learn niagara and I'm actually having a good time with it now. It's miles ahead of cascade and it's not that hard to learn once you get the basics

[tulip viper]

i will, eventually

i just have too much on the place

[earnest pilot]

yeah fair

[tulip viper]

i just need to learn where everything is 😛

i plan to check it out this week

[earnest pilot]

just saying it's worth it 😛

[tulip viper]

thanks ❤️

[minor hemlock]

games about hard drives? that's ridiculous

[regal swallow]

i know, mines set on top a motherboard

[minor hemlock]

mine's literally set on a hard drive

[regal swallow]

holy christ, that looks good

[wintry skiff]

Good use of colors

^

[regal swallow]

this is the best i got

[wintry skiff]

lol literal cpu

that's pretty neat

[regal swallow]

the whole idea is that you're an antivirus fighting viruses in a horde. the problem is that they got into the ram, meaning the more of them that spawn in the slower you move

[wintry skiff]

ah that sounds like a fun idea

[frozen thicket]

@minor hemlock @regal swallow OMG, there is more about computer stuff...😆

[minor hemlock]

sure is 😛

[regal swallow]

i'm not an artist in any way shape or form, so basically every single asset you see in game, i took from somewhere. the only thing thats truly mine is the code and the design

[minor hemlock]

I saw at least one tetris-y one

[regal swallow]

actually saw another one with a similar premise to mine, but third person and i believe had different mechanics

[wintry skiff]

oh god i was so spooked, yesterday lumen shit the bed and just refused to work but today it works when I turn it on

thank god

[hollow maple]

Just wondering, since this is my first game jam, will we get to see what our scores were and get any sort of feedback from the judges even if we don't win a prize?

[minor hemlock]

no

and no

it's unfortunate but it is what it is 😦

[hollow maple]

it makes sense. There will be so many submissions, but was just wishful thinking 🙂

[wintry skiff]

Oh that's a little sad

[little crane]

Other jammers can play your game and give feedback tho!

[wintry skiff]

But yeah I bet there will just be too many

Yeah I hope others will play my game

I'll make sure to play some too I've seen some cool ideas

[glass fossil]

When uploading my gameplay video to Youtube. Youtube is flagging and muting the audio because of "copyright issues", but I only used 2 songs from weloveindies.com because those are free for the megajam project. Does the license not work for Youtube videos? I can't find anything against it...

[fleet finch]

I had the same problem with a piece of music from we love indies. I just left the claim as is.

[glass fossil]

and does your video play well? I have a section muted

[fleet finch]

no nothing was muted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poYbrZxo4Dw

that's strange

[glass fossil]

I guess, I should reupload or in worst case scenario, look for a different song...

[frozen thicket]

@glass fossil If you have problem with Youtube, you can upload on Vimeo

[glass fossil]

thanks for answering

right, I totally forgot about Vimeo

thanks

[frozen thicket]

@glass fossil You're welcome 🙂

[tulip viper]

finally, done with the level 🙂

[carmine kindle]

Made some cool pods for the spaceship

[tulip viper]

is your entire ship hand made?

or did you get a pack?

cause if you made those, great work

[carmine kindle]

There's a bunch of sci-fi environment assets from packs, but the actual red pods I made.

[tulip viper]

nice

great job

do they move?

[carmine kindle]

There's a door opening animation, but that's about it.

Just a timeline doing a rotation on the front half

[minor hemlock]

Who all is dual submitting to decade jam? https://itch.io/jam/decadejam

[tulip viper]

well, so excited to see allt he projects

im doing some final UI work

then whent he coders get up going to go ham on polish

[turbid socket]

Doing the levels 👀

[tulip viper]

im super hyped to see waht people htink

[turbid socket]

Mine is so empty 😕

@carmine kindle That's a cool pod ❤️

What u guys think ?

[minor hemlock]

I think you'd better get lighting building while you still have time. 😅

[turbid socket]

Yeahh

[tulip viper]

lmao

[rugged plaza]

Got Fleet Vs The Volcano Submitted 🤪

https://youtu.be/4PA3H417DMU

I'm going to bed. Good luck yall!

[wintry skiff]

i'm so trapped for time i'm just making floating cubes at this point lol

Ah goodnight dude, congrats on submitting looks good

[turbid socket]

Same.. good work so far man !

[hollow maple]

Game looks great! Awesome job!

[hollow maple]

Looks awesome! Great job! I really like the way the wall climbing and spinning came out. Looks like a lot of fun

[regal swallow]

Screw it, i'm going to bed, too. Tomorrow, I have 3 stretch goals: a new enemy that doesn't just chase you, voiceover for each wave, and hopefully more some more balancing. I want my game hard, but not frustratingly so.

[gentle beacon]

I am so confused. I've playtested all the win/lose conditions in editor and everything works fine. The i package and and when i playtest the packaged version the win/lose scenerios get messed up. 😓

[tulip viper]

eek

going to stream the last 10HRS

we got this!!

[toxic wing]

Managed to sneak in some naps whilst updating repo and prepping for build.
Time to make a little "cutscene" (which is just a bunch of comic style a la Max Payne 1)

Also dropping this here to be prepped for build submission
https://thehoodieguy02.itch.io/claustroclast

[gentle beacon]

Man the smallest bugs are the worst.

[red fossil]

Hey ya all! How do we submit? It says we need to list if we use any outsourced assets. I wasnt able to find where to write that and how to send it.

[gentle beacon]

No matter what i do, mouse gets control or not it does exactly the same thing. Set to hide cursor when start is clicked and it will only hide cursor level is opened and i click, whether mouse gets control or not.

[toxic wing]

It's in the submission form.

[gentle beacon]

I created a text document with all the assets i used

[toxic wing]

(also in game credits if you're fancy about it)

[gentle beacon]

Gonna do that aswell i think

[red fossil]

Thank you!

[glass fossil]

Man i wanted to sleep for only 2 hours, ended up stretching upto 4🥲

[cursive vale]

No sleep. Only jam

🙃

[gentle beacon]

Lol, so my bp refuses to do what i tell it. Mouse cursor refuses to hide unless i click in viewport whether mouse gets control or not. I use the widget to set startgame bool to true. Print thast to screen and when i clicj start it shows true. so after it sets true i set to hide cursor, and it till doesnt

https://gyazo.com/1a101785f46123b1af86e59d90ec2f57

https://gyazo.com/80690d8182b3832165e55ea906b31820

[frozen thicket]

@gentle beacon You should do hide your mouse button inside UI on event of Start Button when clicked

[gentle beacon]

still does the same.

[frozen thicket]

Also check that if you set show mouse else where in main game

[wintry skiff]

level is slowly coming together

(thank god)

[gentle beacon]

hmmm, maybe. Thanks

[frozen thicket]

Try to use this function "Set Input Mode Game Only". Hope it will help

[gentle beacon]

ah yes, forgot about that. 😋 thank you

[gentle beacon]

solved. Thanks alot

[frozen thicket]

@gentle beacon You're welcome

[tepid light]

Well, I have a rare bug that crashes the game. I cannot replicate it. How is everybody else doing? 😛

[tulip viper]

lol

just making more assets

with only 8hrs left

LMAO

[tepid light]

plenty of time

[wintry skiff]

pov: you don't want to spend time on creating a menu

yeah this wasn't me not having enough time, i just wanted to create hub worlds

[frozen thicket]

😆

[young night]

whaaaaat!! 8 hours left! 😱 We just submitted the first version before the deadline hits! Please let us know your thoughts ♥🐀 https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam/rate/1182934

[tepid light]

About that.. nothing changed, right? You can upload updates / modify files before deadline, right?

[tepid edge]

Theme: *** I N C O R P O R A T E D ***

I programmed a giant cat that sells you additional storage space

Is it a good use of the theme? I'll let the judges be the judges of that (But also no, it is not)

[turbid socket]

I guess this is as much as I could do for now.. only 1 mins long gameplay 😅

Hopefully I can squeeze more content in before the jam ends

There is a black hole comming to eat ya but its time to do that now 😝

[hoary trout]

can we share builds here for people to playtest ?

I need some feedback :p

https://safad.itch.io/straight-outta-space?secret=kesgqrYXQDCIawMBKqi5jnUpM

if anyone plays it and has feedback or anything please @ me or DM me

thank you ❤️

[young night]

yes, you can modify the files any time before the deadline 😊

[tepid edge]

I think my game is as done as it's going to get I think the only thing left that I want to add is saving and loading, but that's pretty optional all things considered.

I also really want to add one more fish type, but I'm getting pretty tired of being at my computer 😦

[glass fossil]

Yeah it's not like we are making 6-8 hour game

mine is probably like no more than 15 mins, that's why imma spawn a truckload of enmies to consume time, only 7 -8 hours left and im still left with 1 level, some boss changes and audio 🥲

[gentle beacon]

I'm busy working on ui and playtesting all the way. still want to add some particles but more worried about getting it running smooth.

[tepid edge]

Running... smooth? I just kind of expected the judges to be rocking 3090's

If they didn't want me to put all the visual bells and whistles in they shouldn't have made it so easy

[gentle beacon]

Mines also short and quick hahaha, adding difficulty settings add another 3 minutes or so if player does all difficultys hahha

[tepid edge]

Visual bells and whistles btw

[gentle beacon]

I dont mean that, i mean animations in widgets playing at the right times and widgets showing properly. My game is so sensitive that if i change one node i playtest to find out what it broke hahaha

[wintry skiff]

love that swinging grapple

[mint elbow]

hey do we have to set the game to no payments?

[gentle beacon]

I think you are allowed to do with it whatever you want after the jam results are announced but until then it belongs to them basically. I think. Yours but theirs lol

[tepid edge]

They need to download your game to judge it and they are not going to pay to judge your entry, so it would effectively disqualify you immediately 😛

[rugged plaza]

Some really good looking games being submitted today. 😍

[gentle beacon]

i was thnking pay to win features hahaha

[tepid edge]

Eugh, I don't wanna make a Itch page for my game 😦

[tulip viper]

i know

right

😛

[tepid edge]

If I have to keep working on this entry I want to make more fishies

[toxic wing]

but why

[tepid edge]

Because it's wooooooork

[turbid socket]

Thanks man.. it's inspired from apex legends.. I implemented a lot of movement mechincs from apex but a bit easier to do

[wintry skiff]

niiice, yeah i got a grapple hook too but mine isn't a rope like yours. I love the swinging, apex is definitely great with it's movement system

The movement and abilities is what makes apex the best br out there for me

[proper vortex]

Hiiii are we allowed to update the build (upload multiple times) as long as its before jam deadline?

[tepid edge]

Yep 😄

Definitely get a build in sooner rather than later and then feel free to keep updating at your leisure

Oh no I need to name my project...

[lime crane]

Im closing in guys, I like the jam but I also happy its over now.

[tepid edge]

Same

Big Same

[lime crane]

man the physics simulation in the editor is complete different to what happens in the packaged build. like what a joke.

[zinc juniper]

for me it was quite similar

I guess you are using ue5?

[lime crane]

nope .27 the same box bounces like crazy in build while in editor it just sticks to the ground.

[zinc juniper]

maybe framerate related bps? or no code attached to it?

[lime crane]

its a bp.

[zinc juniper]

Yeah what I mean is, maybe you have code in your BP that isn't using delta time

which makes it seem that the physics are inconsistent, because a build might be playing on a higher resolution

just a theory though

[lime crane]

ahh okay, and how do I fix this?

[zinc juniper]

first try to lock the fps to a fixed number and see if it still happens

that will prove the theory

[lime crane]

okay I try some vsync

[glass fossil]

Is it possible to upload the Unreal project files? Packaging takes a long time on my PC

[rugged plaza]

I have a Crunch hangover 😩

[lime crane]

yeah its like 500 frames lol

[gentle beacon]

https://gyazo.com/c9b2841428f3e1278d7ab1a598806bf5 i had an issue with the ball template once where at high speed it would bounce no how flush 2 meshes were. After a long time of google and documentation and all sorts someone in unreal channel suggested i try this. set min contact offset to 0.001 and max contact offset to 0.01. Maybe it'll help. Dont know, my issue was with the speed of the ball. It solved my issue. Masybe you lucky and it does aswell but i cant say.

[lime crane]

okaya thanks I will try that, but Alex is kinda right, the build frame rate is 500 and editor is locked to 120

where do I call the set vsync enabled? in game mode or?

[steep viper]

So uh, you think they'll take a link to a google drive folder for the video?

[lime crane]

okay turning on Vsync fixed it thanks man. @zinc juniper

[zinc juniper]

Good to hear!

Glad to have helped

Might still want to check if slower computers don't have issues

for instance if a computer only manages to get 40 fps, how will it behave then.. etc

altough the judges will most likely have good hardware

[lime crane]

yes, Im so tired thats not going to happen but @gentle beacon tip fixed the rest bouncyness completely. I really need to do something else.

[worn hamlet]

Submissions must be packaged for Windows and playable on Windows 7, 8 or 10, MAC OS X, Android, iOS, or Oculus Mobile.

[glass fossil]

Can the time limit be extended?

[zinc juniper]

Yeah understandable @lime crane good luck on finishing the jam

[worn hamlet]

Afraid not, the deadline is set in stone.

[worn hamlet]

As long as it is accessible throughout the judging process then this should be fine. Many people prefer YouTube or something similar for its ease (and doesn't take up drive space)

[tepid light]

Phew... 5h to go. I have a finished game, but I think I can squeeze in few more finishing touches.

[glass fossil]

So I can just upload a video of my game?

[worn hamlet]

No. There has to be a playable game.

[tepid light]

It has to be a working, packaged game. No project files, videos, etc.

[worn hamlet]

"Submissions must (i) be packaged for Windows and playable on Windows 7, 8 or 10, MAC OS X, Android, iOS, or Oculus Mobile; (ii) include the full name and email address of each Entrant (as defined below) on a submitting team; (iii) indicate if the work is 100% original or if assets were sourced from an online marketplace; and (iv) include a video short (between 30-60 seconds) demonstrating recorded gameplay of the Submission.All contact information provided must be current, accurate, and valid. See Submission Guidelines for additional requirements."

Please make sure that you read the rules- they can be found at the top of the 2021 Epic MegaJam event page - https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam

[glass fossil]

I wanted to add 4 bosses and 4 levels, now im only upto a single boss and 2 levels, so to compensate, im just extending the level🥲

[wintry skiff]

I guess the real gamejam was the dropbox we met along the way

[west zenith]

Hey! Should I put a project in a zip? Or rar and 7z allowed?

[wintry skiff]

you can use a compression thing afaik, or just upload in itch up to 1gb or use dropbox

personally i will use google drive because otherwise i won't have enough space

[glass fossil]

Quick question i whipped out a sick beat in 5 mins in grovepad, it's really easy to use but i created it technically so do i have to list it as premade?

[west zenith]

I see that everyone is posting out in zip except for a few. "Tiny award for the best game that is less than 150MB" is about zipped projects or without compression?

[tepid edge]

Zipped projects are the Itch standard. Their upload tool will even unzip your project if you try to Zip it yourself so that it can re-zip it with their own settings

Also: I may have the "Nvidia GeForce Experience" notification in the top right of my gameplay video but I think I'm too lazy to re-record the footage

[rugged plaza]

@west zenith unzipped total size below 150Mb

[west zenith]

Ok:) Is not a problem that i already submitted and click for tiny award?

[rugged plaza]

I came in at 101 and added prerequisites installer back in for 140Mb just so I would only have one download. Zipped was 88Mb.

They will just disqualify it for tiny award during judging

[cursive vale]

Waiting for everything to upload is absolutely excruciating right now. I swear I won't event want to touch a computer for at least a week after this is done 🙃

[rugged plaza]

@cursive vale I am the same way. Looking at it makes me wanna hurl right now🤮

Crunch hangover

[tepid edge]

Welp, submission done, time to go to class

Question: Will updating after the deadline cause issues? Or does Itch handle making sure only the pre-deadline version is considered part of the jam?

I know I want to add saving and loading to the game because it would help, but I don't know if I'll finish it in time with having to go to class, and I'd still like it to be available for people even if it's not part of the judged game.

[daring apex]

where is 32 bit option?

i cant find anymore

4.27 this is btw

[placid osprey]

I wish everybody the best of luck in their projects for this game jam.

https://tenor.com/view/clap-tom-cartoon-gif-14875667

[cursive vale]

Finally time to get some sleep. Good luck everyone, it's been a blast. I look forward to checking them out soon 🙂

https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam/rate/1180781

[turbid timber]

What is up with lots of submissions that have been created months ago? And even saw some of them with a price-tag

[minor hemlock]

when you record the gameplay trailer and painstakingly edit it

and upload it to youtube

and

[toxic wing]

Well, seems like the power line didn't gave me the blessing ....

[daring apex]

GUYS HELP

WHERE IS 32 BIT OPTION

[turbid timber]

Dumb question? Why package for 32bit? What's the intended hardware for that

[daring apex]

6 MB LEFT HELP

WHERE

SORRY

[toxic wing]

Well, I gotta step out because power outage strikes again

[daring apex]

IM LIKE HEART ATTACK RN I HAVE LIKE 10 MINS LEFT TO DO THIS

im on 4.27

no option

that's not an issue

i only see force 32 bit floating point percision for ios

and for mac

also what should i tick under packaging

share material code

native lib

and compress

[toxic wing]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/TestingAndOptimization/PerformanceAndProfiling/ReducingPackageSize

reluctantly taps on "Leave jam"

[agile plover]

good luck! always a tense moment before you submit something

[lime crane]

Alright I submitted. Guys I wish all of you good luck. First jam I´m in really good time but yeah very tired.

[toxic wing]

Even though I didn't make it into a playable build, at the very least I did learn a few UE tricks along the way.

[jolly dirge]

I can join you there if it’s any comfort

[toxic wing]

Don't have to. Just the matter of adjusting my physical body after high amount of caffeine.

[jolly dirge]

Currently at the er cuz of a health flare up. I was halfway through finishing the damn videoediting 😂

[frozen thicket]

You're guys should take care for your health first. It's important more than jam

[jolly dirge]

I mean mines unrelated to the jam, just unfortunate timing tbf. Doesn’t make me any less sad that I was so close!

[agile plover]

hope you stay healthy!

[jolly dirge]

I won’t get out of here for hours

[toxic wing]

I'm not even done prepping for capturing video, and then blackout in my area.

[tulip viper]

lol

still adding

LETS ADD MORE!!!!

[jolly dirge]

Thanks mate and same to you!

[toxic wing]

if anything, one hard slap I learnt is that my circumstances are not just allowing for such high stakes.
No more jamming again until I have better equipment and place to live in.

[daring apex]

guys where is the package for 32 bit in 4.27?

[toxic wing]

Is it missing from the Project Settings -> Platform -> Windows?

[daring apex]

yes

it was on 4.25 i think but no longer

idk about 4/26

[toxic wing]

It is still available in 4.26

[daring apex]

can u send s=s

ss

[jolly dirge]

5 gets rid of 32bit compatibility right? Maybe that was also brought into .27?

[toxic wing]

I can't, I got nothing else to power my computer on.

[daring apex]

oh shoot

[toxic wing]

Hence I quitted at the last hours.

[daring apex]

where do you see sizemap on folder

did i disable a plugin

that did that?

[frozen thicket]

@toxic wing That’s not about equipment or else. It’s about knowing things what we have and scale down project to fit it.

[gentle beacon]

Aaaaaargh, so i created a widget to display controls and i test it and everything is fine. Cook content and package. Playtest and discover i added the controls info to the pause menu so player has to press pause to see controls but its only in controls info which says which button to press for pause. hahahaha i need sleep

[tepid light]

Shoudn't pause be Esc?

[toxic wing]

It's about the equipment. I have shitty power situation going on over the last few days, somehow coincide with the jam.

[gentle beacon]

I make mine P for pause

[agile plover]

is there anything we can do to help?

[frozen thicket]

@toxic wing We should prepare for anything will happen and leave sometime for it

[toxic wing]

It costed me a day of progress already. Shattered my morale to see some of them got cut amidst file I/O operation.

[toxic wing]

Except I'm not working for the power line.

[tepid light]

I do P and ESC. esc is more intuitive - P doesn't end play session 🙂 @gentle beacon

[daring apex]

guys help how do i remove 5 mb of stuff

im 5 mb short

five

[toxic wing]

I think not. It's out of control anyway, already calling the quit.

[frozen thicket]

@toxic wing I’m sorry to hear that. Maybe best luck next time

[gentle beacon]

I set it via input and then execute when paused as well. Works exactly the same. P brings up the pause menu and sets game to pause

[agile plover]

did you remove the packaged redist in Engine > Extras > Redist > en-us?
also there's this tweet:
https://twitter.com/t_looman/status/1430994570310037510?s=20

Tom Looman (@t_looman)

For the 'Tiny award', crank that Oodle compression to 11! (Use "Leviathan" + high 'Effort Level') It'll do some wonders for your packaged project size! #unrealjam #ue4 https://t.co/aSA7W9JhUj

Twitter · Aug 26, 2021, 8:44 PM

[daring apex]

nuuuuuuuuu

how much does it save in mb

[agile plover]

I might be wrong but i don't think you need that Prereq_setup, anyone can back me up?

[minor hemlock]

correct, you don't need it

[gentle beacon]

But yeah, adding esc to do that with p will also work. but i wanted it in the main menu so a person doesnt have to start playing and thn press pause to see control mapping

[toxic wing]

You can have them as a separate download. Some entries do that last year.

[daring apex]

also wahts the encoder effort level

can i tune that up?

[agile plover]

I think you can tune it up all the way to 11 for distribution

any more than that might be risky

[toxic wing]

Gonna give some last hour support here for everyone else (with what I can remember at least), until I go back to regular channels and animation works.

[shell junco]

Where is the Epic MegaJam page ?

[tribal helm]

https://itch.io/jam/2021-epic-megajam

[mortal merlin]

is it safe to refresh an itch.io page while uploading to cancel an upload? I uploaded the wrong zip

or will refreshing cause problems

[minor hemlock]

it'll remove the old one

but that's all

and remove the downloads count 😛

which is annoying

[mortal merlin]

awesome thank you

[minor hemlock]

but not an issue

[shell junco]

Thanks

[agile plover]

i'm going to experiment with building my game for web hehe, i doubt it's going to work but worth a try

[mortal merlin]

just make sure you have a fallback! :O

[agile plover]

already uploaded mine, just experimenting at this point 😄

[mortal merlin]

right on

[agile plover]

remember the zip file needs to be Please format the name of your .zip file with your team's name attached, ex. TeamName_GameName

[eternal stirrup]

guys how much time is left

[toxic wing]

As for my own project, Claustroclast, I think I can make it a more standalone thing, with no jams attached to it. Already wrote some mini lore about it early on (which is kind of a quick take on Metal Gear Solid and Yume Nikki lol)

[mortal merlin]

3h2m

[toxic wing]

It's in the page

[eternal stirrup]

it says 2 min for me lol

[mortal merlin]

only 2 ??

[eternal stirrup]

is it to do with windows date or the browser

[frozen thicket]

3 hours, 2 minute

[eternal stirrup]

cuz everything is 3 hours earlier for some reason in my browser

[agile plover]

time in ET is almost 12:00, and the competition ends at 15:00, so you have 3 hours

[eternal stirrup]

oh nvrm i changed wuindows time region and it says 3 hours now

[coral reef]

Just to verify, do we have to submit a development build or did the note only apply to mobile builds?

[frozen thicket]

@coral reef As I know, it's only for mobile builds

[toxic wing]

Shipping builds are more preferred, due to smaller package size (and the exclusion of PDBs)

[glass fossil]

Please Someone Tell Me What Should I DO?

[drifting jasper]

😓

the amount of relief lol

[drifting jasper]

install visual studio 2019

[glass fossil]

I Installed

But Still Not Working

[frozen thicket]

@glass fossil You must install addition for Unreal Engine

Not only VS

Check this https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/ProductionPipelines/DevelopmentSetup/VisualStudioSetup/

[glass fossil]

Ok Thank You

[glass fossil]

Very Much

[daring apex]

guys... im still 5 mb short

added a song now its 6

[drifting jasper]

5mb short?

of what?

[mild jackal]

Just hopped out of bet to fix that -_- haha

[daring apex]

im suprised thatt a 2 min song is 1 mb

[mild jackal]

Better safe than sorry!

[daring apex]

tiny award quialification

156 rn

how do i open a 4.27 project in 26?

so i can package for 32 bit?

does that save at all?

[drifting jasper]

you can't

levels aren't backwards compatible

[daring apex]

noooooooooo

shouldn'tve updated to 27 in the middle of the jam

crap

[toxic wing]

I think next year you will be lucky. I'm porting libopenmpt to UE4 out of the jam's necessity, that way you can use tracked musics instead.

[daring apex]

o nice

like

i had an idea

of opening a url in the background

with the song

XD

if someone can make that a reality...

:french kiss:

free space

[toxic wing]

It's a simple C++ function as far as it concerned.
But demoscene people do better than that.

[drifting jasper]

at least you're not on UE5

the amount of problems we've ran into

🙃

[daring apex]

oh goddamn

lol

[toxic wing]

If anything, those looking for smaller sizes should look at demoscene prods to get a better ideas on getting a substantial stuff within smaller size.

[drifting jasper]

performance is dank.com though

[daring apex]

true

[drifting jasper]

Nanite going strong

[toxic wing]

They can get a fully working demoscene prod within less than 1 MB, and tracker music (in some extents still) is one major space saver.
With small self contained samples, you can get several minutes of music in less than a MB.

[brave mango]

just submitted my vr jam game made in ue5, i know the feel man

[drifting jasper]

wow, that's brave

[eternal stirrup]

thats why i say always package a day b4 deadline lol

[drifting jasper]

day before?

try 3 hours before xD

[daring apex]

^

[brave mango]

openxr breaks on openlevel in packaged builds, learned that this mornig

in ue5 anyway

[daring apex]

just in case smt breaks

[eternal stirrup]

what is openxer

[brave mango]

new standard for vr, hopefully not too soon

well vr/ar

[drifting jasper]

we learned that you can't get game mode from pawns anymore

[toxic wing]

Though somehow I still have my engine recompile all the shaders every build, even though I managed to cut some time down with process priority.

[drifting jasper]

it bricks the project

🙃

thank god for perforce

[mortal merlin]

whaaat

thats a nasty bug

[toxic wing]

TBH I never do stuff in Game Mode, it doesn't sound like an inconvenience to me.

[glass fossil]

Hey guys, hope everyones project is going well.

I'm stuck on a bug if anyone could spare a few minutes, Im sure its an easy fix my brain is dead 2 am here 🙂

[toxic wing]

https://www.dontasktoask.com

Asking to ask can give you major time loss.

[mortal merlin]

im at the submission page right now... can we check to apply for multiple different award categories? if so, is that a recommended thing to do?

[toxic wing]

Yes.

[wintry skiff]

Been compiling for hours so many hours

[drifting jasper]

you on a toaster? 😛

[wintry skiff]

I was supposed to add content but damn

[toxic wing]

One of the entries won Army of One and Procedural Content

[wintry skiff]

16 ram i5 6400

Idk wtf this shit is lol

[mortal merlin]

thank you very much Hoodie

[wintry skiff]

I never expected this

[toxic wing]

PROTIP:

• Increase ShaderCompileWorker processes' priorities in Task Manager
• Disable Usage Data logging in Editor Preferences

[wintry skiff]

Ty will keep those things in Mind

You can also package for the second way quicker right

I really want to add some content last minute

I have no end lol

[toxic wing]

According to everyone else, yes.

[wintry skiff]

God I hope so

[toxic wing]

(though for some bizarre reasons, mine recompiles every engine shaders every build)

[wintry skiff]

:harold:

I'm at 143 but it's still taking forever so close yet so far

Does anyone know how to update a game, like do I package in the same spot?

Lol nice

I deeply regret not managing assets better

I reduced it to 3.8 g. Total tho

So I'm surprised it's taking hours

[tulip viper]

https://riuthamus.itch.io/darkship

finally got the ITCH page decent 😛

[wintry skiff]

Nice

[tulip viper]

not my best work for 2d art

but.. meh

it works

now to make credit screen animations 😛

sound guy came through too!

so we got sounds, yeah!!

[wintry skiff]

Sounds are always good

[tulip viper]

yep

in madness mode!!!

WE GOT THIS FAM 🙂 lmao anybody else not submit yet

or, am I the only madman 😛

[toxic wing]

Speaking of sounds
I have this grandiose of a plan to make the sound effects entirely with synthesis, and I did so for the project

[gentle beacon]

I'm about to, but still one or 2 things i want to do but gonna upload now. So tired so thinking uploading it and leaving it as is before i break it.

[tulip viper]

lol

i was too, i slept for 3hrs

got up, was going to just hit subit

Coders came back online....

NOW I AM MOTIVATED

get some 😛 lao

[toxic wing]

Though considering that my project didn't make it for the jam, I had to save it for later time.

[wintry skiff]

I haven't yet

Still compiling for so long

In

Pain*

Was supposed to add content

[toxic wing]

Kinda wished my computer can run out of a phone power bank

[wintry skiff]

:harold:

[glass fossil]

I keep getting build errors!

[tepid light]

I get a rare crash of the whole game. I can't replicate it

[glass fossil]

Mostly it's null pointer

[toxic wing]

enjoying the free nitro while it lasts

[wintry skiff]

Lol right

Going to be sad when it ends

99 now, please unreal

[tepid edge]

Well, my game is done, my classes are done, I have a grilled cheese sandwich and some tomato soup...
Time to find literally every small thing I can improve in the next two hours and push out mini patches

[tepid light]

@glass fossil yeah.. in an engine function. I know more or less where, but no idea why. I can't make a workaround

lets just hope it doesn't crash

[turbid timber]

2h and I haven't packaged my game yet or made a trailer 😮

[drifting jasper]

[glass fossil]

I keep getting build fails due to houdini assets

[hollow ridge]

That is scary

[wintry skiff]

Wait we're supposed to make trailers lol?

[hollow ridge]

That's why I submitted yesterday and have been updating new changes

Gameplay footage

[wintry skiff]

At best I'll make cover art

[tepid edge]

It doesn't need to be a trailer, but you do need like 30 seconds to a minute of gameplay footage recorded

[toxic wing]

At least gameplay video.

[wintry skiff]

Oh shit really

Damn I thought they were supposed to play