lounge

[quasi mantle]

Depends

[dark sequoia]

on the type of game, and what you define as advanced

[cursive crypt]

mmo

[quasi mantle]

The problem is somehow it automatically do hot reload even when I already disabled it long time ago

[cursive crypt]

Good question... MMO is the ultimate goal.

[dark sequoia]

a 3D story game like Elmo's Alphabet Adventure, or Elden Ring? 🙃

[quasi mantle]

no

[dark sequoia]

hmmm

[cursive crypt]

If that a story game... she kills animals there you know?

[dark sequoia]

maybe?

imo I think its possible

but i could be wrong

[quasi mantle]

Much more doable with BP, but sooner than later you'd find yourself creeping into C++

I know I did

[dark sequoia]

i also dont know the full gameplay aspects of that series, admittedly

[cursive crypt]

ChakraMan too (aka PacMan)

[dark sequoia]

other than it has moving and attacking in it

[cursive crypt]

Good start.

[quasi mantle]

Basically typical western RPG

[dark sequoia]

i feel the biggest challenge is the world itself

[cursive crypt]

Everyone starts from somewhere. Like from.. empty Windows.

[quasi mantle]

TBH gameplay wise, not much uniqueness

[dark sequoia]

if you're doing open world

[cursive crypt]

For 21 days? 🤔

[dark sequoia]

but apparently, from what ive read, UE5 is better for open world? not sure if this is true or only just fluff

[cursive crypt]

Check the Epic Online Learning portal.

Eat all of them.

[quasi mantle]

It's true, but it still takes something to make it fun

[dark sequoia]

ah okay thats good then, cause open world stuff is kewl :p

[cursive crypt]

I have an almond cake btw... waiting to warm up.

[dark sequoia]

and yeah as long as its fun of course

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, it is pretty good link.

[dark sequoia]

but thats with any type of game

[quasi mantle]

#ue4-general message

[cursive crypt]

I mean, Google the link.

[zinc matrix]

yeah it is

[quasi mantle]

Also for context, he asked for obtaining console devkits

[cursive crypt]

#lounge message
^

[zinc matrix]

large world coordinates allow you to move much further from origin without weird behaviour, and there's also the world partition system

[quasi mantle]

Then expect yourself dedicating at least a year of your time learning game development and the engine.

[cursive crypt]

Replace World, with Weird Partition System.

[dark sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYCoAnp8vw

!!!

[quasi mantle]

Yes

5 billion years

[cursive crypt]

No, if you buy my Brain oil, it reduces with 20%

So... 120 years

[dark sequoia]

for me, a game is only fun if I am allowed to kill literally anyone I want and still be able to beat the game 🙃 lmao...

[quasi mantle]

Also please, be patient when learning.

[cursive crypt]

QuTen 11 too

[dark sequoia]

lol jk, but i still like that in games

[quasi mantle]

Took me 5 years to get remotely decent with UE4 lol

[zinc matrix]

what's up with movie rendering out as images un ue5? lol

[quasi mantle]

and I'm still suck at replication lmao

[dark sequoia]

it took me about 1 year, although for blueprints only

[cursive crypt]

Buy a good keyboard btw

And mouse.

Also learn to cuss with elegance.

[quasi mantle]

Because it's the best option?
You only have to stitch them in post as opposed to dealing with codecs

[cursive crypt]

This is sexist.

[dark sequoia]

GUYS

[quasi mantle]

Not even important

No.

[zinc matrix]

well kinda yeah

[quasi mantle]

くそくらえ

[zinc matrix]

kusokurae?

idk how still remember how to read that

[cursive crypt]

Weeb confirmed.

[dark sequoia]

i can read dat too

but hiragana and katakana is all i know, lolz

[cursive crypt]

Femboys too

[zinc matrix]

can also read cyrillic, so can I be a language enthusiast instead?

[dark sequoia]

i used to be able to write sentences too (cause i took classes) but much of that knowledge gone now haha

also, what about our robot users

[cursive crypt]

But do you know binary?

[zinc matrix]

yeah

are there any native binary speakers?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-bilson-body-swap-tg-tf-transformation-gif-19345015

[zinc matrix]

bruh

[quasi mantle]

screw spanish inquisition
I'm pulling the plug

#rules no.2

[dark sequoia]

you should prolly stop now, lol..

[quasi mantle]

I'm pressing the magic button

[dark sequoia]

ban?

lol jk

[quasi mantle]

Nope lol
But it starts with the same letter

[dark sequoia]

anyway i need to sleep, see you guys later

[zinc matrix]

quit spamming

[cursive crypt]

^

[zinc matrix]

if you have serious questions think them together and put them in #career-chat or something

[dark sequoia]

also that too

[quasi mantle]

Oyasumi mou

[dark sequoia]

asking a few questions here and there is fine in here once in awhile.... but if you wish to actually keep going then yeah its best you move it to a more proper channel (and without spamming it of course)

[zinc matrix]

bonne nuit mec

[quasi mantle]

(my JP IME is broken currently lol)

#rules no. 7

[dark sequoia]

anyway, night night

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/valéry-giscard-d-estaing-président-français-president-de-la-république-politique-campagne-gif-12033864

[quasi mantle]

Now do it in a straight road. Don't do it in a 4-way intersection

also put 4 heads

[zinc matrix]

lol

i still can't record gameplay

i guess only was it to use animations and car model

create spline where the animation goes

[quasi mantle]

||pls don't tell me you don't know bloody abbey road||

[zinc matrix]

ohh

lol

got me there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2uTFF_3MaA&ab_channel=TheBeatlesVEVO

[quasi mantle]

So mild crisis with hot reload averted
Managed to pull the plug without rebuilding the entire engine

[cursive crypt]

Milk for them.

[quasi mantle]

Here's the one milky way to catgirls 🥛

[deep copper]

wasn't that wine now

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of which, biologically, true catgirls are weird specimen

By theory, it's a crossbreed of human and cat, but the physique is still entirely human, with addition of tails and additional ears on top. This would mean human genes are still dominant over cat genes.
Considering there's barely any catboys, that means it's heavily female dominant. Which would mean male babies would be more likely to be a normal human.

[deep copper]

mipi has an onlyfans in their about me... 👀

[zinc matrix]

🙄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDpa6ty0muA&ab_channel=Animatable

free project file

lol

[deep copper]

males can also be normal cats

[quasi mantle]

Unfortunately is super rare compared to catgirls

Also with the human gene still largely dominant, if a catgirl mates with a male human, that'd mean human gene reign supreme over catgirl gene, even if it's a female baby.

[deep copper]

but that's assuming they are a species that uses that method

they could use budding or something

also, there's no real evidence about where it branched off from as a species , if it's genetically engineered, it might not mate at all

[quasi mantle]

There's no depiction of catgirls aging either, so implications would be catgirls have the same lifespan as human.

(at least that I'm aware of. If there's any, it might be an obscure satirical anime)

[deep copper]

tbh, if it's female only then it's gotta be asexual reproduction

since all of those were females i think

[primal spoke]

Hey did Paper 2D get any updates with UE5?

[deep copper]

they might just die in youth

[quasi mantle]

#ue5-general

[primal spoke]

👍

[quasi mantle]

FWIW body cell degrades over time, so die in youth is more likely from freak accident.

But again, I have yet to see anime depicting loss of catgirl (let alone caused by natural aging)

[cursive crypt]

#catgirls-biology

[deep copper]

if it's genetically modified then some vital cell might be dieing off early instead of aging skin etc

[quasi mantle]

But then again, deadly diseases do exist

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, likely something like cancer

[deep copper]

basically like, your pc's most parts last longer but a single important component is weird so it dies early on

[deep copper]

yeah,

[quasi mantle]

Still, kinda shame no anime ever depicting loss of catgirl lol

[zinc matrix]

can someone smart tell me what the difference between hdri backdrop and bp_lightstudio is
it looks like bp_lightstudio is more advanced than hdri backdrop

[quasi mantle]

#graphics

[zinc matrix]

like what can lightstudio do that hdri backdrop cannot

[deep copper]

you can make one!

[zinc matrix]

it makes no sense, why they need a plugin to use hdris when its built in lol

[quasi mantle]

I guess?
Noriko wasn't supposed to die in the game tho

[quasi mantle]

Try asking in #graphics

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle i said can someone tell me not suggest me a channel
srry minimod but if you dont know the answer thats cool but best to leave it

im kidding ofc

[cursive crypt]

#anime-graphics?

[zinc matrix]

ill ask in #ue5-general

[deep copper]

maybe write something in epilogue

[quasi mantle]

I'm not sure how to depict one, really.
Noriko is a cat pet in game, and she isn't supposed to die in the story

[quasi mantle]

Well, I'm planning to leave the ending more as a cliffhanger. At least as an excuse to allow for post campaign free roam

[deep copper]

write the epilogue like "and they all died after living happily", so it's also open to interpretation how they died idk

[zinc matrix]

just use Spanish Soap TV show ressurections

[deep copper]

cliffhanger huh, "it wasn't known if catgirls die, but let's find out..." ?

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I do plan for time skip sequel, so I'll left them on staying alive

[deep copper]

ah, so in the epilogue of that you can kill the cat if you want

[quasi mantle]

But for the sake of playing safe, I'll make the ending more of a cliffhanger

[deep copper]

remember, cats have 9 lives so you CAN resurrect

[quasi mantle]

Eh, not really. Noriko is part of the story and one of the summons, so she can't just died. Normally RPGs don't take away summons mid-story

Though I guess ||FF7 took away Aerith mid story which was treated like a perma party member||

[deep copper]

tbh death is rather sad, i would rather prefer you not killing

[deep copper]

maybe they tried to plot twist

[quasi mantle]

I guess, maybe even if she's dead, maybe Nala could wear catgirl suit in memory of the cat

[deep copper]

😭

[quasi mantle]

Tragic loss behind a cuteness

🤔 🤔

[deep copper]

how about you write a seperate story for killing a cat girl only and not do anything weird in this

[quasi mantle]

Maybe (not)

Besides, I intend the story to be more mature and not just happy go lucky
Life in another world isn't as what they told in the books and shows

[deep copper]

add a seperate cat girl character that sends them on a fetch quest but when they get back the catgirl dies of old age

[quasi mantle]

Eh, I'll think about it down the line.

[deep copper]

hmmmm, if you want that to be, i suppose it's okay to do

it's a fictional character after all

no real loss

no cats were harmed

[quasi mantle]

Also catgirls are non existent in Past Future, but I guess there is a separate race akin to Ivalice's Viera race.

[deep copper]

i can't even read it in one go but yeah

[quasi mantle]

Viera is basically bunny girls in Final Fantasy

There's no male Viera on sight, even in FF14 you can't create one

[deep copper]

i thought ff was more, bloody

[quasi mantle]

The only bloody FF games were Type-0. And that game got M rating.

Also FF16

[deep copper]

M rating was .. 18+?

[quasi mantle]

ESRB's M rating is 17+

18+ is AO (adult only), and pretty much banned from sale on retails

[deep copper]

then where do they sell it?

online?

[quasi mantle]

Though M rating is equivalent to 18+ rating elsewhere (PEGI 18, CERO D/Z)

[deep copper]

because males of that race don't exist?

[quasi mantle]

Mostly online

[deep copper]

i wonder what saved it from reaching the 18+ rating

[quasi mantle]

Nope.
I forgot exactly the canonical reasoning, but IIRC either they extinct from war, or just didn't live long

[deep copper]

xD the devs really didn't want to make male bunny assets ig

[quasi mantle]

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Viera

So apparently male Viera do exist, but they're wanderers

[deep copper]

that doesn't explains why you can't make their chars?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-distorted-gif-9956316

[quasi mantle]

The viera are a playable race for the Shadowbringers expansion, though only female viera are available as part of this expansion.

Yeah, don't ask me why lmao

[deep copper]

perhaps in another dlc

[cursive crypt]

It is clear, horny weebs.

[quasi mantle]

Actually no

Endwalker did have male Viera

Male viera are playable as part of the Endwalker expansion, marking their first appearance in the series.

[deep copper]

so IT IS in a seperate dlc xD

[quasi mantle]

But still it took them so long since their inception

[deep copper]

that's literally like that male female handwash graphs

[zinc matrix]

wonder why that happens

because of going too fast and not being able to render fast enough

[deep copper]

you should repair your car, man

[zinc matrix]

cars drive like shit there tho

[quasi mantle]

Out of curiosity, how's the UI in the sample were made?
Do they use UMG?

[zinc matrix]

idk about that

what's umg?

[quasi mantle]

Universal Music Group
Unreal Motion Graphics

[zinc matrix]

you mean this one

[quasi mantle]

Yes

[zinc matrix]

would be pretty nice to be able to change visuals instantly in your own game

[quasi mantle]

I just want to know if they're directly using Slate or going through UMG/User Widget

(I can't get hold of the sample myself)

[zinc matrix]

just download it and run on low

or just view the files and explore without pressing play

[carmine scaffold]

LIES

[quasi mantle]

1. My potato can't run neither Nanite nor Lumen, at all
2. I haven't build custom UE5 yet

3. My internet connection is a third world country connection (likely way worse than Australia's)

[normal prism]

[carmine scaffold]

this you too?

[deep copper]

oh? where's your stat? the polls? where are they?

^ reference to polls being unreliable

[zinc matrix]

i made a template fps in one click

38 minutes of video

do not even enters in blueprint tab

Youtubers with clickbait culture are so bad

[verbal junco]

🤣

the best ideas are nothing next to execution

[zinc matrix]

you can try making the game yourself and then getting people afterwards

usually you will only be able to get friends when heading to a unpaid work

[verbal junco]

so what can you do?

😂

maybe it would be better if you could do something to show that your game is actually interesting?

I dunno, anything that could help make the game? a game doesn't just need a landscape lol

either learn at least blueprints and scripting, or modeling, or something

[zinc matrix]

create atmosphere that has feeling even without gameplay

the rest will follow sooner or later

[unreal ether]

You need to learn, if you cannot be bothered to learn, dont expect others to do your dirty work if you cant pay them

[zinc matrix]

you are in an UNREAL ENGINE forum

i think it is suggestive

[unreal ether]

Nah too subtle wym

[timber viper]

I thought this was a place to talk about animes

I also heard CE loves talking about animes a lot

[verbal junco]

t-that's not true baka

[unreal ether]

Damn got me there

Really destroyed mr nigel thornberry with that one

[unreal ether]

I heard they are an anime secretly

[verbal junco]

I think this is at the heart of the matter @zinc matrix

[timber viper]

Finally I finished my series and gonna watch the anime you recommended today

[deep copper]

that's how they make 💰

[deep copper]

helping people is an afterthought

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnRB24Xo6eI&ab_channel=LouRatchett

[unreal ether]

Plus just saying "I have good ideas" means nothing

Every dev thinks they have good ideas. No one is gonna come in and say "work for me, my idea is terrible"

You at least need a prototype to prove that your idea is half as good as you say

Unless you have money

[verbal junco]

I can't believe I've become a person who's recommending anime

pre pandemic that would never have been true

[deep copper]

weebs, weebs everywhere

[timber viper]

I have good ideas means nothing
Nooo my mmorpg idea will make me billionarie

[zinc matrix]

Nerox reads young

[unreal ether]

Really? Let me work 24/7 for free then

[unreal ether]

Definitely

[verbal junco]

that's true, I'm one of the characters in the unreal slacker high school drama

[unreal ether]

But the only way to do these things is by learning

If you dont wanna learn then dont do the things

Its the fact of life

[timber viper]

Yes, my not funded project will make you earn money by revenue share once we get that blueprint-only code working

[deep copper]

"i have good idea" is kinda insulting to devs tbf, that's like saying "my idea is better than your idea, infact it's so better that you should work for me for free instead"

[unreal ether]

I wpuld watch that

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-same-old-same-old-usual-nothing-new-the-usual-gif-17070446

[unreal ether]

Especially when the filler arc with the spam bots comes

[zinc matrix]

blueprint does not lag that much behind c++ code after build

at least from a solo perspective, i doubt you hit the wall

[unreal ether]

Also true

[timber viper]

Especially when you are building an MMORPG with insane amount of people can be in the screen at once

[unreal ether]

Blueprint definitely does lag a lot more

For intensive things it can be 20x slower

[zinc matrix]

just making the landscape of a MMO would consume a solo dev. completely i think

[timber viper]

There is a big /s in my sentences btw, if you havent realized yet 😄

[verbal junco]

tell me what are your good ideas

[unreal ether]

Simple things its a like a few milliseconds, but large stuff its the difference between crashing and not crashing

[deep copper]

but if they tell it then you have the idea, the value is lost

[unreal ether]

Nuh uh i made 12 yesterday

[timber viper]

When you learn about CPU instruction cache you completely stay away from BPs for a while, then just use it for scripting

[deep copper]

totally not going to be mmo

[cursive crypt]

First time I hear about such reason. Is this what they teach you over #cpp?

[timber viper]

Yeah talk about it but dont teach

[deep copper]

if an mmo game uses flat ground ig you are done without spending a minute or maybe a few minutes because opening ue takes time

[verbal junco]

they do also say "don't micro optimize" ||unless your initials are GB|| 😂

[unreal ether]

They are all flat land with a big spike in the middle... one had two spikes

[deep copper]

you mean they talk about code instead of memes there?

[unreal ether]

Nah dont be silly

[timber viper]

Today GB was wondering* how much time FMath::Sin() takes

[verbal junco]

GB is making a game that literally requires a different engine

[deep copper]

is that glass beaver

[verbal junco]

this is not every game

[timber viper]

GB also uses a different engine with UE flavour probably 😂

[verbal junco]

in fact, it's in the 0.1% of games

[cursive crypt]

There is a reason we don't talk religion here.

[timber viper]

You know, the ship thing in philosophy

[deep copper]

we don't? since when?

[timber viper]

You changed the parts of a ship, if its the same ship or not

[verbal junco]

yeah, it's GB engine based on rough UE4/5 code 😂

[tiny gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZL7TqSeDus&ab_channel=GrandpaHERE

[fleet tangle]

Like Trigger's broom. Same one for 30 years. Only 20 new handles and 15 new brushes.

[timber viper]

Today I'll join a local Red Alert 3 tournament, wish me luck

[verbal junco]

exciting

gambatte

[cursive crypt]

Anyway

[deep copper]

goodluck, if you don't win then change your pfp so we will know you lost

[unreal ether]

Just use the overpowered af tesla coils, and spam the overlord tanks

Ez win

[timber viper]

I'll play as Japan

[unreal ether]

Ah damn

Get the floaty head dude

Hes op

Mr laser eyes

[timber viper]

lmao

King Oni

[unreal ether]

Oh wait hes dlc only

Alternatively spam rocket angels

[timber viper]

I'll share my victory screen for u

[unreal ether]

I hate those things

[timber viper]

Mecha Tengu + Rocket angels combo is my fav

[unreal ether]

Its so stupidly overpowered

[timber viper]

I have two soviets players to defeat

They spam helicopters

[unreal ether]

The only thing i dont like is japans defenses, theyre so weak

Unless you guard your base with 1million rocket angels

[timber viper]

yeah

your units are your defenses in japan

[deep copper]

xD okay i will be waiting if it doesn't have a victory written on it but you won, do mention you won because i am not familiar with that game

[verbal junco]

I think RA 1 would have been more interesting but eh

didnt even know japan was in RA3

[timber viper]

RA3 is very fast paced compared to others

[verbal junco]

never played

atm playing a bit of civ5 just to roflstomp cpus

but combat in civ sucks

[timber viper]

I'm a civ noob

[verbal junco]

I probably wouldn't have gotten into it if we didn't play civ4 at uni so much

but tbh with having played frostpunk recently, I think the ideas frostpunk has about city builders are actually really good

it should be hard

and objective based

and not just about roflstomping an opponent

anyway brb while I roflstomp some opponents in civ

[cursive crypt]

civ2 was the best, fight me.

[timber viper]

I tried frostpunk once, overwhelmed by it

[timber viper]

Is that the game which India throws nukes lol

[verbal junco]

I tried all the campaigns on normal difficulty and got destroyed

had to go down to easy

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, the rollover.

[verbal junco]

but once you understand what makes your workers sick it helps quite a bit

[cursive crypt]

I read somewhere what were the ends, and lost interest. About Frostpunk 🤔

[verbal junco]

when you're only at -20C you really need to use that time to stockpile resources and research as much insulation as possible

[timber viper]

Game is so depressive

[verbal junco]

it's great, I love it

[timber viper]

Dying childs, wounded people

Sad lifes

[verbal junco]

I mean it's a frozen wasteland

I wouldn't expect rosy circumstances

but also

[timber viper]

Thats your progress?

[verbal junco]

just an endless run

at a certain point you can't get more refugees it seems

so you gotta ensure your population doesn't die

(I say that while I still enacted the dueling law) 😂

but yeah I think getting the game free on epic convinced me to buy the sequel when it comes out

I like how unforgiving it is

[zinc matrix]

dammn, i couldnt get past a week or so hahaha

[verbal junco]

I mean once you get the ball rolling it's easier. by far the early midgame is the hardest, if you don't have the adequate research

use resource depots for your workers if they are collecting stuff, that makes them less sick, and just in general make sure their workplaces (where they'll spend the most of their time) are warm

[night grove]

And yet you still use UE

Stride!

Haha

[median wraith]

e3de still in active dev?

[night grove]

Yeah UE is really the best bet of what's available

I spent some months trying different engines and was reluctant to come to UE because "ThAt's ThE ShOotEr EngIne"

[cursive crypt]

ogre?

[deep copper]

shooter engine? didn't know ue had that image

[zinc matrix]

flawless cowboy. good news! i replaced the spark plugs, put it back together and omg it worked first try!!

[deep copper]

that's awesome! but stay on your guard!

[night grove]

There's a false sentiment that Unreal Engine is only good for making shooter games.

[zinc matrix]

for what

[deep copper]

i mean, if it's like code working on first try without errors, i would stay on guard

[zinc matrix]

those old plugs were almjost shot

[night grove]

It is rooted in some truth, considering it was originally built for a shooter and still has legacy ties to that design

[deep copper]

i mean, fortnight and ut seem to be shooter-y

[zinc matrix]

This is a spark plug. Its an old one

[night grove]

HOWEVER, by that logic Unity shouldn't be used for anything because the developers haven't shipped a game on it

[deep copper]

then, nice work ! sherrif ..? idk cowboy terms

[deep copper]

it looks like a giant screw

[zinc matrix]

That's because there's a bunch of threading on it to screw into the engine

The part of grassfield with my fingers is porcelain

The part that I'm grasping with my fingers is porcelain

I was terrified of fucking it up. That's my daily driver. Was really afraid of dropping something into the manifold or or cross threading the threads under the spark plugs

[deep copper]

that said, how do you know it's not working good now? for long

[deep copper]

btw how's life now man

[night grove]

Better, mostly. Thanks for asking!

Just feeling stress of getting my project to a point I can start earning money again

This week I did some profiling of my destruction system vs Chaos destruction

Mine is missing some key physics simulation parts, so it is not an apples to apples comparison (yet)

However, I can actually run mine on a Quest

Not a chance to get Chaos to work on the Quest

[deep copper]

that's quite an improvement imo

[night grove]

I could hold a steady 72FPS with 6 to 12 destructible buildings on the Quest with my system

[deep copper]

also you are back to stress, self care self care!

[night grove]

6 of the same buildings with the same "Destruciton complexity" on chaos destruction tanked the frame rate to around 7 FPS on the Quest

[deep copper]

that's rather neat imo

why is chaos slower? what are you doing different?

[night grove]

It is something I could have ready to ship in a few months

[night grove]

High level the systems are very similar

Low level, quite different

They are based on geometry collections, I'm using static meshes.

I'm currently learning how Vertex Shaders work in Unreal Engine so I can add the physics simulation to my specialized static meshes.

[deep copper]

sounds good to me !

[night grove]

Conceptually vertex shaders aren't THAT bad. There is just very poor documentation on the topic.

[deep copper]

so you are doing stuff in shader itself?

[night grove]

Yes

Currently the logic is in a material, but it is very limited

[deep copper]

well I wouldn't expect a material to give a lot of freedom 🤔

[night grove]

The biggest difference between my system and chaos destruction is the root philosophy

Chaos Destruction is a physics simulation first and foremost

They push for higher accuracy

[deep copper]

you are faking the simulation basically by simplifying it for your case?

[night grove]

I'm more interested in the piece wise destruction. The physics part will be faked by game logic

[night grove]

Jinx! Yes exactly.

[deep copper]

and just moving the vertices around in material itself or something

[night grove]

Yeah, that's the general gist.

At this point, my system is more comprised of what failed to work than what worked.

Lots of trial and error

For example, spent 2 weeks trying to simulate the parts with Niagara

But that was a no go

Can't really inject static meshes in niagara at runtime

Well you CAN, but it causes some undesirable side effects

[deep copper]

that sounds like it will need some complicated tricks :P

now wonder you need so much trial and error

but the results seem worth it

[deep copper]

yeah i can imagine it blasting off everywhere or something

[night grove]

Nah, when you inject the meshes you modify the root asset

I couldn't find a way to copy the system

So to get it "to work" I would have had to build a niagara system pool and keep a bunch of copies of the system in memory

Because if you start one system, then start another. The first system starts using the static meshes of the first

[deep copper]

yeah okay that really sounds like a lot of work for just that

[night grove]

Well. I make the problem sound more clean than it really is. It's a really big mess that I would not feel comfortable shipping in a product.

[timber viper]

@deep copper

[night grove]

That's a screen I've never seen in my life

Civ right?

[deep copper]

same

[timber viper]

Red Alert 3

They only managed to destroy one building of mine

[deep copper]

well it's called chaos for a reason

[night grove]

Wait, RA? Has it been so long since I played that I don't remember what it looks like?

[timber viper]

Probably, its a 2008 game

[night grove]

I used to play lots of C&C with my friends back in the day

[timber viper]

C&C is awesome

I have a copy of cancelled C&C game

[night grove]

So sad the studio was shuttered

They actually made games that were fun

[deep copper]

were there 3 players? which one are you

[timber viper]

Orange

Player 1

It was 1v1v1

[timber viper]

I'm still trying to crack it to play with AI but they released beta as online so I'm unable to

[night grove]

Was it RA or C&C that had the tiberium?

[timber viper]

C&C

[night grove]

Ok, that's what I played more of

Was always funny seeing the infantry die on the stuff

[timber viper]

I was not a fan of tiberium stuff

[deep copper]

you had less structures (and less income than 3 too) but still won, is that good?

[timber viper]

I played classic C&C generals

[timber viper]

Yeah

They focused on units and defence too much, I spammed units and attacked once

Then destroyed both

[deep copper]

you are so aggressive, i love you

either way, congratulations,!!! 🥳 you are quite a pro

i underestimated you

in red alert 3

[night grove]

I loved the giant tank in generals

I forget the name

Was ridiculous

IIRC it could crush other tanks by running them over

[zinc matrix]

I have RA3 but i wont run on my machine 😢

[night grove]

Now I miss the friends I would play RA / C&C with

Haven't seen them in a long time

[cursive crypt]

It is not coffee waterfall?

anime oil

[timber viper]

The chinese tank

[unreal ether]

Generals was so good

I loved the generals challenge

Superweapon spam was extra fun

[zinc matrix]

I've never played a game CNC generals

I haven't even ever even seen video of it

[primal summit]

how about c&c renegade?

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od_PmtmMDV0

[deep copper]

ba na na

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-weird-japanese-gif-4569773

[unreal ether]

I love that gif

The first one i ever saved

[deep copper]

i love you
The first brother in negative

[verbal junco]

what gets me is that these guys came up with this ish without even using drugs

[zinc matrix]

haha

allegedly

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/allegedly-michael-jackson-south-park-not-true-thats-what-i-heard-gif-20334482

I'm tempted to try some silly stuff like trying to play a game but with the language settings set to japanese

[zinc matrix]

haha go for it

[unreal ether]

minecraft would probably be the easy way out

[zinc matrix]

Nah gotta go for Colossal Cave Adventure in Japanese that's real og gamer style 😄

[deep copper]

set all your devices to the language

ez

[zinc matrix]

I locked myself out one time

was trying this japanese version for rigging stuff way back, and had to " tweak" some lang pack so it could work

then i couldnt get it back whaha

sometimes if i work in Photoshop i still hit a key combo that asks me to try jap lang pack

my C drive is a mess 😄

[deep copper]

oops

[zinc matrix]

do you speak japanese?

[deep copper]

why do you ask?

[zinc matrix]

because you an anime fan

[deep copper]

not really

you?

[zinc matrix]

yes

im fluent in ramen

jk i cant speak or read haha

[deep copper]

i mean, if you got stuck one you would definitely try to overcome that 🤔

once*

[zinc matrix]

haha would be op move

accedently get stuck inJapanese language on software lear japanese to unlock 😄

[deep copper]

that would be quite convenient if there was high stuff at stake, for learning languages

[zinc matrix]

do you have a theme on discord?

[deep copper]

? does default dark theme count

[zinc matrix]

yeah i saw somewhere someone have black

i want mine to be darker

[deep copper]

that's amoled dark theme

keep pressing dark theme

it appears

[zinc matrix]

huh

really?

[deep copper]

yeah

don't try light theme

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/extra-office-laugh-are-you-laughing-gif-12309149

[deep copper]

that turns on flash light after repeat

no i am serious, you want proof?

[zinc matrix]

you are kidding me

haha doesnt work

im talking abou desktop Discord

maybe on mobile

?

[deep copper]

oh idk desktop, works on mobile

[zinc matrix]

aah okay

hahaha

i was clicking like a mf

😂

[deep copper]

but it's weird if it doesn't works there

are there less amoled desktops or something?

Quick tip: Android users also have access to "AMOLED optimized mode," which turns on an even darker dark mode. To activate it, tap "Dark" 10 times.

yeah well, it's experimental on android itself, so guess that makes sense

[zinc matrix]

niceee

[deep copper]

but

it's uhm

[zinc matrix]

im never on mobile discord much

[deep copper]

more painful to read then

[zinc matrix]

yeah i bet

[deep copper]

the contrast between text and bg is higher, that's a bit straining

the default dark is nice enough

[zinc matrix]

yeah in Premiere Pro you can slide the darkness

id prefer a little bit darker then the dark mode

[deep copper]

for someone that works in ue all day even with a broken wrist, I expected no less

[deep copper]

it's grey mode tbh

is it bad?

[fast cobalt]

how long does it take to install this city sample project? Its been like ages.. I thought my launcher froze and i restarted it to have it install all the way again (its downloaded to the vault)

[deep copper]

you will probably find more people that have installed it in #ue5-general

[fast cobalt]

thanks @deep copper

[latent dew]

It's not called KH4 Alliteration Alicitization RE:1.7 REMAKE?

[ocean parcel]

love that show.

i quote that a lot.

[ocean parcel]

I need to buy more seeds.

I'm not sure if toxicity fades over time.

[quasi mantle]

this legit scared the frick out of me

[zinc matrix]

un**y

hmm trying to mess around with post process materials

usually just ends up making entire screen black

oh well

I'll figure it out soon

[thick belfry]

How's it going my fellow loungers

[zinc matrix]

Going well. How about you?

[thick belfry]

Pretty good

Awaiting my college application result

It's living rent free in my head lol

[sudden bloom]

Hello

How is everyone?

[burnt lake]

Unity.

[tulip orbit]

self portrait?

[dark sequoia]

sure

lol

[fleet tangle]

Jatts really nose his character design.

[dark sequoia]

:3

[thorny dock]

If you play around with it enough you can glitch it and invert the nose

[dark sequoia]

lol yeah that looks pretty similar to my main char I use

https://gyazo.com/ee2b32cbc383b8171458210faecf1a2f

https://gyazo.com/43b18db80cd97b7db29362d8b08f0f45

lol

[zinc matrix]

nice

[scarlet cedar]

Hello friends it's me your brother

[unborn lotus]

where do I type my password

[cursive crypt]

Here is fine too, we will forward it.

[unborn lotus]

hunter2

[cursive crypt]

Wrong password, must be in the form of ******

[unborn lotus]

oh snap

[scarlet cedar]

You can dm me your password and bank account credentials

[cursive crypt]

Or maybe we skip this step and you directly send some bitcoins to my wallet.

[unborn lotus]

I'm an indie dev, I have no money

[scarlet cedar]

Luckily for you I also accept revshare

[unborn lotus]

I can offer 500% revshare, is that good enough?

[cursive crypt]

Math is fine 500 x 0 = ?

[scarlet cedar]

Actually $1k/day + 250%. Gotta leave some for you

I really need to learn perforce

Apparently it's way more good than git

This might be more #level-design but im trying to design walls and floors in my game that the player can build. My current solution is making the middle of the wall be on the edge of the floor so it overhangs but half the depth of the wall. This means that if you put a floor piece on the other side of the wall, the wall is evenly positioned on both floor pieces, however if there is only 1 floor, it overhangs and looks like crap. It's been suggested to make the wall sit on the inside of the floor so there is no overhang, but then you can play 2 walls back to back which would also look weird. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

I can post some images later when I get home

[cursive crypt]

#level-design

[deep copper]

^

[timber viper]

lol

Even when someone has a level design question its asked on #lounge and #level-design is full of #graphics

So

[graceful sequoia]

ue5 upgrade not too bad 😄 so pumped to resume my project

hows everyone been?!

[zinc matrix]

tried messing around with post process materials to not much success

can't even get a basic cel shader to work properly somehow

but oh well

how are you?

[graceful sequoia]

i suck at materials

im great- ive been out of unreal for maybe 6 months working on other things. but UE5 release + a new machine has me excited to catch up

i think there might be a free cel shader somewhere on the store as a starting/learning point

[zinc matrix]

I understand materials much better than a year ago

but watching tutorials a lot of it is still sort of "yeah ok, but I don't quite understand why"

[graceful sequoia]

because pixels 😛

for me, i get the core "mechanic" as it were, but artistically, am useless [with materials, id like to think i can art otherwise]

[zinc matrix]

well there is always substance painter if you have the money

[graceful sequoia]

yeah there's a lot out there

getting my project compiled and open in UE5? np. but some things never change

[zinc matrix]

I need a better pc

[graceful sequoia]

whaddya got?

[zinc matrix]

isnt the compiling thing a tradeoff though for something else

hp

[graceful sequoia]

yes, compiling shaders is a tradeoff, between anything being on the screen and nothing :-)

more generally shaders make the graphics go fast, so yes it's a tradeoff

nice

will check it

@zinc matrix hope you are doing well! it's been a minute

mwahahaha

i hear it

stupidly late sunday here

yep, LA

ok to clarify its technically early monday*

but barely

[deep copper]

happy monday 🥳

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/suh-dude-whats-up-sup-hey-gif-17551054

[graceful sequoia]

hey lorash, where is this experimental setting?

[graceful sequoia]

got it, thanks [for anyone else, its in the release notes https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.0/en-US/unreal-engine-5_0-release-notes/]

[verbal junco]

I can hear this gif

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-WQ0S6eBkE&ab_channel=VIZPARK

got me in the vibes to make amsterdam style coffee shop 😄

too bad there ain't weed related props in marketplace

megascans: herbs

yeah

but bongs

a real dutchie can make abong outta 2 cilinders and a sphere 🐸

true

the first thing I made in blender was a bong lol

[verbal junco]

it's the #level-design curse 😔

[zinc matrix]

ah well there's my problem

the sunsky by default is very bright

so parameters which should work in a cel shader don't actually work

[verbal junco]

the biggest problem with cel shading is that it doesn't work with dim lighting

like making cel shade work at night is really difficult

[zinc matrix]

yeah

[unreal ether]

Thats why you make night time bright, and daytime ultra bright

The sun can blind you irl so why not in game

[deep copper]

or just go the batman way and make everything super dark

i mean, what are the audio updates in ue for anyway? the player playing with only sound sounds enough

[zinc matrix]

uh

basically completely new sound system

metasounds I believe

that reminds me to get into it actually

[deep copper]

yup, synthesis of more sound was possible now right?

make the screen white for the day (ultra bright) and black for the night (ultra dark), the gameplay happens with sound

[cursive crypt]

#fab

[ionic siren]

haha, it's usually #lounge people refer one to 😛

[cursive crypt]

Nah, we offtopic here. No UE, Unity only.

Autosize comments btw, free and yesterday was one of the first thing to install on fresh 5.0

[ionic siren]

Yep that one's nice!

[pearl elk]

Did someone say Unity

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-punch-thor-gif-11597097

[cursive crypt]

bUseUnity = ?

[pearl elk]

if(bUseUnity && !bUseDarkMode)

[deep copper]

wow you won't even type the opposite of dark mode

that's some , enmity

[pearl elk]

its because Im grim

you can call me the OG, Original Grimster

[deep copper]

OG

[subtle hatch]

A great video showing the the history of arcade gaming in Australia

https://youtu.be/80z40CIdikg

[pearl elk]

theres an Intencity at Marion, been there forever

[thick belfry]

crazy how udemy keeps having these insane sales 😅

Ive never even had to pay the full price

[pearl elk]

but you earnt it

[thick belfry]

Almost as if... the discount price is the full price

[subtle hatch]

In Adelaide ?

Westfield Marion

I live there

[pearl elk]

I live near Victor Harbor 🙂

[subtle hatch]

You mean near West lakes Westfield ?

Why you ask ?

Yes

Someone should share a Nick Xenophon meme

Only Adelaide people would know

[pearl elk]

SABest

[subtle hatch]

I voted for them

Proudly

[pearl elk]

cant wait to vote for our lead ukulele player

[subtle hatch]

A family member of mine worked for sa best

A person that would be in the true centre

Away from the looney left and the nut jobs of the right

Yes

[pearl elk]

you can make an advanced game

[subtle hatch]

No game can run in entirely on blueprints

[pearl elk]

GTA is pretty simple top down 😛

[subtle hatch]

May I ask how old are you

Are you really new to this stuff

Yeah cuz the question you asked was very basic

[pearl elk]

whats advanced about it?

advanced for me is games like Fruit Ninja

[subtle hatch]

You got a long way to go on making those sorts of games

But all the best to you

[pearl elk]

can I make a game like Japan World Cup entirely in Blueprints?

[subtle hatch]

I think u are being a bit silly

[zinc matrix]

Breaking news

There may be signs of intelligent life living in this place called Perth

[pearl elk]

I used to live in a strange place called Perth, I was in the better half SoR

[subtle hatch]

Too much junkes there

Long time ago my father used to work at Perth and got assulted in his car.

And I still hate Perth for it

[pearl elk]

I still hate Melbourne for stealing the Grand Prix

[tulip orbit]

lies

[pearl elk]

VR arcades are having abit of a moment tbh

[zinc matrix]

A friend told me how his dad got scammed by someone who ended up running away to perth

https://tenor.com/view/scum-wretched-villany-tattooine-gif-10985312

[dark sequoia]

advanced games 4 me r titres

[zinc matrix]

Of course can't judge if I haven't been there myself

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/train-passing-train-gif-15730140

[tulip orbit]

tetris, now thats hella advanced

dwarf fortress has nothing on tetris

[soft night]

MonsyGP where F1 is more overtakes

[pearl elk]

tetris but with trains instead of blocks

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-gif-23738456

Tetrix PC

[zinc matrix]

Does it play korobeinki when You start it up?

[pearl elk]

I wonder if I can play Snake on this PC

[unborn lotus]

what ever happened with no RGB, no glass cases 😔

[soft night]

there are those too

[unborn lotus]

there are but not enough

[pearl elk]

needs more beige

[deep copper]

cases huh, i really wanted to make a switch case statement programming pun here but I don't understand them well enough

i just know it exists

[cursive crypt]

Special bought my last RAM without LEDs. Saved some bucks. However the ratio was 5 to 1 of lights vs no-light products. It gets harder and harder.

[pearl elk]

Ive only got bout 500 LEDs in my study

I need to up my GenZness

[cursive crypt]

CMYK leds when?

[pearl elk]

they have em, you gotta print them on your 3d printer

[cursive crypt]

But are they 10 bit, hdr?

[night grove]

I like LEDs but holy hell has marketing turned them into a scam

LEDs are very cheap parts, but the price of products with LEDs is skyrocketed compared to the same product without

[deep copper]

don't they have controllers and weird wiring and stuff for those in cases tho

atleast i hope it's not just a regular light 🤔

[pearl elk]

I dunno theres been a fair bit of development thats gone into LEDs, its not like they just whack a cheap globe in there

my HUE lights can sync with my screen through the hub and software, TT has put a fair bit of effort into their different pieces of software for controlling and creating light patterns

[deep copper]

TT? thermal take?

[pearl elk]

yup

I have ring trio and quads

[deep copper]

ah i see, i do remember seeing a lot of fancy light controllers in various motherboards when i was looking those up

... yet I don't know what ring trio and quads mean 😅

[zinc matrix]

_T_T_T me have no pathtracing in ue5 dx12

[pearl elk]

well mine run through the TT hubs which are kinda cheap, most of the money is in the fans, Id gladly have paid more tbh

I use a pretty large combination of brands and they all work flawless together because of the standardisation thats happened for LED lighting

[deep copper]

that's kinda cool

[pearl elk]

I cant sync it all together but I kinda dont want that, I like having my keyboard on the mode its on

[deep copper]

as long as it glows

[pearl elk]

well Roccat have AIMO which is pretty sweet

[deep copper]

it does seem sweet

[pearl elk]

yeah I used to be a Logitech person but theyre quality got really bad for the price

thats what I find tends to happen more, its not so much they whack LEDs on something and then up the price. Some brands start cutting back on quality to maximize profits

my Lian-Li case was actually cheap as compared to what they have been in the past and no LEDs or fans bundled so you get a blank slate. You can get the glass panels or not, up to you

[deep copper]

gotta get more profit somehow

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl elk]

Took me ages to find LED fans that were what I wanted

[deep copper]

is it unique?

[pearl elk]

lol there are so many builds with this case it doesnt look unique

[deep copper]

ah i see 😅

[pearl elk]

I coulda got noctua fans all around and got slightly better air flow

each brand of fans has a slightly different look, Ive found Corsairs RGB range is different

my mobo doesnt have a single LED on it either and only has a basic header

I run so many LEDs off the mobo that I cant have them all illuminated at the same time because it can only address a limited amount at a time 😛

[deep copper]

i was wondering how you were doing it xD

[pearl elk]

I just run em in a pattern then theres enough addresses at one time

[deep copper]

that brings up quite normal looking fans

[deep copper]

this is really glowy and shiny stuff

[pearl elk]

I got one high airflow Noctua at the back hidden in the darkness 😛

[deep copper]

decorative pieces vs practical usage huh

[pearl elk]

well the TT are okay if anything its my small radiator letting it down not the airflow of the fans

theres so much to take into account with a system build in regards to layout of liquid cooling, fans etc that LEDs ended up being relatively easy apart from the extra wiring

[deep copper]

i suppose it's not that much in the way when comparing to the other stuff, and it looks interesting

and well, cooling systems are definitely one of the complex parts

[pearl elk]

I wouldnt expect a waterblock with an LED screen on it to be cheap 😛

[deep copper]

definitely not cheaper than one without it,

[pearl elk]

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/images.linnlive.com/b28f02a016c84e5c0b683a79e86720fd/6903747c-7045-4a88-b26e-542e82126eee.jpg

dont ask me how you read that

letters for ants

[tulip orbit]

ants with magnifying glasses

[deep copper]

😮 looks very cool though

[verbal junco]

is this a reference to #lounge? 😂

you wish

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IU5xz/cf7c852c60.jpg

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-funny-scary-banana-weird-face-gif-15355427

[verbal junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpETSoNWxY actually hilarious

[deep copper]

"battle medic"

[deep glen]

https://i.gyazo.com/201fc917457230f5d38e31ed7dc17167.png

[soft night]

!8ball are you Commander Shepard?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

[deep copper]

!8ball you are Shepard Commander

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

@zinc matrix, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

[deep copper]

!8ball what do you like about it

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

[ocean parcel]

just bought more seeds heehee

[deep copper]

what will you do with so many?

[ocean parcel]

CRUSH THEM :D

[deep copper]

crush me <3

jk

what will you do with so many crushed seeds?

[ocean parcel]

put them with cookie dough ice cream!!!! :D

[deep copper]

or CDIC for short

[ocean parcel]

CDCC

[deep copper]

CDIC

[ocean parcel]

life is so boring.

[deep copper]

if you make something that fancy idk how you can call it boring

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-perfectionist-perfect-gif-7910211

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-mass-effect-femshep-shepard-shepard-dance-gif-22081103

[ocean parcel]

im so tired and so bored.

[celest musk]

is there an easy way to get a "general" scale factor and it's fractions, e.g. scale(4, 2, 4) = 2 * (2, 1, 2)

writing that down makes it seem like it's 7th class math 😄

should i just take the min() of the scale and divide everything through it!?

[zinc matrix]

What do you mean by scale

You mean magnitude of the vector?

[celest musk]

it's a vector which defines scale of a mesh

so i want to make an UI which has a slider for scale on all axis, and each axis separate

now i'm trying to figure out how to populate the slider which is for all axis

[zinc matrix]

multiply the vector by the percentage of Scale your slider is changing. Ie. (4,2,4) * 0.33f will get you a scale with a third of the original scale

[celest musk]

well my whole plan with min() is kinda screwed anyways

[burnt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unity-engine-development-gif-20967774

[zinc matrix]

why?

[celest musk]

because 1,1,1 is no transform, so i would have to do some stupid math to offset it to 0, get the closest offset and convert it all back

[zinc matrix]

imconfused. what?

[celest musk]

yea

that

[zinc matrix]

no. what are you trying to say

[celest musk]

i'm more confused than you are

for now, that one slider wont be populated, i have to deal with other things which are more important xD

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-impossible-thor-impossible-ragnarok-impossible-impossible-not-possible-gif-19896965

[lofty night]

Not sure if I’m in the right place but can anyone help me trying to recreate a football field with logos and lines..what would be the best way to do this. Thanks for any help !

[zinc matrix]

Maybe put the lines on the material for the field

then for the logos use decals maybe

[lofty night]

Is there a tutorial anywhere to do that

[regal hawk]

ayo

what are ya doing in mah swamp

[tulip orbit]

takin yo mud

[regal hawk]

can i perform magic

no

can i call my mummy

no

[thick belfry]

Wassup

[tulip orbit]

👋

[quasi mantle]

Just layering plain textures would be better I think. Skips the cost of decals altogether

[quasi mantle]

Can I call your brother, Mr. Pepsi?

[regal hawk]

@quasi mantle YOU WILL DO AS I SAY

YOU WILL BRING ME WHAT I WANT

AND IF YOU FONT

THAN NO MORE CHILLI FOR U

[lofty night]

do you know of any tutorials for this?

[quasi mantle]

no u
I'm your father, but you're no son of mine.

[regal hawk]

Missus Jeffries is not pleased

[quasi mantle]

Eh, just a simple lerp alpha will do.

[lofty night]

are there any examples i could look at

[regal hawk]

Me

[quasi mantle]

Just bog standard linear interpolate node.
A input is for the green grass texture, B inout is for the logo texture, and Alpha is the logo texture's translucency/alpha channel.

Though that's getting into #graphics territory

Well at least it isn't #level-design

[primal summit]

find the smallest of the 3 values, divide everything by it, and coincidentally it's your scale factor, as I understand from your single example

although that doesn't get a proper normalized vector

if you're after the smallest shared prime factor, that would also satisfy your example

[fleet tangle]

Take your vector and a normalized copy. Your scale is the original / normalized

[timber viper]

https://youtu.be/SrCRdPhknSY

[fleet tangle]

You will need to check if the vector is 0,0,0 though

[celest musk]

thanks, that sounds like an elegant solution

but isn't 😄

myFinalScale = float(scaleFoo) * vec(scaleBarX, scaleBarY, scaleBarZ)

that's how the scale gets applied in the first place, now if i have an object, and want to populate it's scale to the UI i need to find the float value (and reduce the scaleBar vector by that factor)

so guess i have to go with that min() solution, which neither is elegant because -1 < 0.5, so i would have to run it over the absolute values of scaleBar, and then somehow figure out the sign and all that -.-

[slate drift]

So now you're the Cristiano Ronaldo Makoto?

[primal summit]

why would you have a negative scale?

[quasi mantle]

Control Rig

I don't like football

[slate drift]

I don't watch regularly but I like the sport ❤️

[slate drift]

Have you mastered it yet?

[primal summit]

are we talking the one with the spheres and no helmets, or oblate spheroids and body armor?

[celest musk]

i would have a scale of 0.5 for a 1/2 sized object, but i would also have to move the "origin" for min() to work properly to 0,0,0 by subtracting 1,1,1

[primal summit]

why?

[quasi mantle]

Getting the hang of it

[celest musk]

for min() to work properly

[primal summit]

min just cares about the smallest number, unless you have negatives in your vector?

[celest musk]

i want the minimum difference to 1,1,1

0.8 would be < 1.1

while the smallest difference is .1

[primal summit]

ahh

that doesn't actually normalize your vector, and 1, 1, 1 is not a normalized vector anyway

I'll just shut up since I clearly don't understand your goal

[cursive crypt]

These "bethesda bad coders" memes are way overblown imo. Hardly seen such bugs. Your typical physics and AI, yeah. But every other big game have them (cyberpunk e.g.)

[unreal cedar]

They may have taken a life of their own but they're not that overblown. If you remember how horses worked on initial release in Skyrim...
The thing is, though, that there were very few notable game-breaking glitches in most of their games. So for each silly bug that got through (and they absolutely knew about most of those - they just didn't have them as ship blockers) you don't know how many actual game-breaking issues were fixed.

But Bethesda games absolutely are somewhat buggy. At least for Oblivion/Skyrim this is somewhat a product of the time - earlyish days for games of that scale, and something has to give. Later games like Fallout 4 are more likely just due to their tools not having been majorly reworked.

We'll see what happens to Starfield - hopefully they've put in more time to improving their tools but only time will tell..

[burnt lake]

Fake

[cursive crypt]

Well, I have good amount of hours in Skyrim as well Oblivion. Never stroke me as buggy to a meme level. Just... normal as each other.

[burnt lake]

Imagine Elder Scrolls 6

[cursive crypt]

Tho, I have to admit, I played them not from the Release date.

And Skyrim (and Fallout4 say) never w/o mods.

And while fan of these, I somehow don't feel being interested in Starfield at all. I guess the sci-fi trope is not my thingie 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Starfield seem too space-y to my taste lol

[primal summit]

8 I think but I'm bad at those

[cursive crypt]

Don't you like space anime? Or more in to fantasy?

[quasi mantle]

More into the latter

[deep copper]

i am betting on 2,

from the first line, if there is same(common) shape in second line, it gets removed, but if it's not in first AND second, it gets added

so our third line is —

if shape IN first AND second, remove it

if shape NOT IN first AND second, keep them in third line

[primal summit]

hrm

[deep copper]

what do you think?

[zinc matrix]

well at least one shape from the first panel stays in the final panel

and if a shape is present in panels 1 and 2 then it won't be present in 3

so yeah

2

reading your reasoning I think we're on the same page lol

[deep copper]

cool cool, we both agree then

yes

looking at it again, it works both horizontally AND vertically

nice

[zinc matrix]

hey yeah you're right

wonder if we'll ever know the answer

[fringe plaza]

@zinc matrix I was looking through server feedback and I saw your screenshots do you use light mode......

[zinc matrix]

Problem?

[deep copper]

aw it doesn't works diagonally

and we will probably never get an answer

[zinc matrix]

discord user jeering at light mode for the 27349123804th time

[deep copper]

they are a cat, they have 9 lives, it's okay

[unborn lotus]

dark modes suck for me because of the contrast, really hurts my eyes. discord is the only one that works since it's grey not black

[zinc matrix]

just change post process exposure settings bro

it'll fix

[fringe plaza]

When even discord it's self has denounced light mode you're doing something wrong

So yes I question the sanity of everyone that uses light mode

[zinc matrix]

they should have at least tried making light mode work

[deep copper]

well i mean, they made that light mode

it's like giving everyone something to use then saying it's bad

doesn't works too well imo

[cursive crypt]

Liking only dark or light mode is stupid. There are biological reasons to use both, depends on your environment.

[zinc matrix]

^

[deep copper]

^

[zinc matrix]

if you need to stay awake, use brighter themes

[fringe plaza]

I will die on my dark mode hill

[deep copper]

if you need to flashbang enemy

i mean it can be useful in sunlight

[zinc matrix]

if you're idk, looking for something to listen to while going to sleep use dark mode

[fringe plaza]

I was literally just typing that I don't need a flashbang every time I open discord

[deep copper]

xD

[deep copper]

i don't think it's nice to use discord when nearly sleeping... for others it works though