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zinc matrix
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Cuz tbh courses are dry af

deep copper
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i mean, you aren't wrong

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courses are pretty lame yeah, but just watch them at 2x or something

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don't have to pay attention to every little detail

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just , know what they did, and get back to it when you need that method

zinc matrix
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Also somewhat afraid of getting in the zone of wanting to work on my game itself

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But people here tell me to postpone it till I understand the engine

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So either way, it's painful

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Starts to feel more like a chore than a passion after a while

deep copper
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if you don't understand the engine "okay" enough, you will get stuck and want to quit the project itself

zinc matrix
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Of course, that's kinda parasitic

deep copper
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"as long as it works" but it will tire you out mentally more

zinc matrix
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There's no easy way out

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Goddamnit

deep copper
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you may not be able to tell the exact issue at a point later down this road

zinc matrix
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I've done troubleshooting by myself before

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But yeah

deep copper
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tbf, you are exhausted after getting back, i won't blame you for trying to get helped since you are starting out anyway

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but for bigger projects it can get a bit ,tough to find personalized help

zinc matrix
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Yeah

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Guess I just gotta force myself to work on the course

deep copper
zinc matrix
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Just hope it's not too painful

deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
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not really painful as in math painful

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but it might make you sleepy if you are exhausted

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that's why, just skim through them

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if you skim through 1000 tuts, you might retain 1% of them and stitch stuff together

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tbh, it's usually a very small amount that's actually valuable for your current understanding anyway

foggy path
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There are no shortcuts fwiw :P

deep copper
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if you keep accumulating stuff, it works

zinc matrix
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There's just no winning with this nightmare, is there?

foggy path
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You don't need to stare at boring tutorials, I usually just worked on random projects to learn

deep copper
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the only way is brute forcing and fighting it head on...

foggy path
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If you think of learning new things as a nightmare you might as well quit right now :p

zinc matrix
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It's dry, boring, I'm tired, I'm grumpy, but fuck

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If I don't make my dream come true, nobody will

zinc matrix
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I just dread it and I'm getting more irritable because of my job and school

foggy path
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This sounds like a really weird thing tbh

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You want to learn to do a thing

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but you don't want to

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:P

zinc matrix
regal pecan
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Feeling obligated is not the same as wanting

zinc matrix
regal pecan
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meant that for zomg

zinc matrix
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Guess I should try committing to at least 1 video lesson a day

foggy path
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How long are they anyway

zinc matrix
deep copper
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i would say 2x it, half the time!

zinc matrix
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I guess it's not a big deal

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Maybe I'm just getting overwhelmed

foggy path
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Yeah... 10 minutes of watching a video shouldn't make you this bothered lol

deep copper
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and ue is massive, while you don't need to know everything, there's other softwares that work with it for asset creation at times so there's also those smaller stuff

regal pecan
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Treat yourself with food every time you watch a video lesson. Get that unconscious brain hooked.

foggy path
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You've spent 10 minutes complaining about it already

deep copper
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make it a habit, doing it with something like food might actually work

zinc matrix
deep copper
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do it daily btw

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if possible

zinc matrix
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Like

deep copper
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leaving one day just makes you stop

foggy path
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So you either take a chance on actually doing work on it

zinc matrix
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Fuck, I learned about widgets but what about all the other shit I need?

foggy path
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Or you do nothing

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Which one do you think is better :P

zinc matrix
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Idk

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I gotta man up

deep copper
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"learning is an ongoing process", you can be working on a project and watching tuts on something entirely different as well

foggy path
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Starting something is always the most difficult

zinc matrix
deep copper
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you never know what comes in handy with such huge set of tools

foggy path
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Even if the task itself might not be that challenging it's easier to just not do it lol

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and it often seems harder before you get to it

zinc matrix
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Fine

deep copper
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wasn't there that shoe company that said "just do it"

zinc matrix
deep copper
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i heard someone saying something about a 3 or 5 sec rule too, if you think of something, do it in next 3 or 5 sec or you will never do it

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because hesitation or too much planning, overthinking kicks in

zinc matrix
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Yeah

deep copper
zinc matrix
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Anyway yeah

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Gotta push myself

deep copper
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jk

deep copper
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body first !

zinc matrix
deep copper
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almost like that bird that bangs wood

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wood pecker

primal summit
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Of you decide to go ahead and learn while working on your project, remember one thing: It's often far easier, better, and faster to rewrite what you've already done in a better way than to work around your prior decisions (at least in general).

And spend the time up front on planning. I know it sucks, but map out how things will interact, what they'll do, and how before starting.

quasi mantle
foggy path
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Planning is a double edged sword tho - You can get stuck trying to plan for things you don't really know about until you try and build a bunch of things first

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But it's good to have at least some ideas for the broad strokes

deep copper
primal summit
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they are

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at least the old school thrash metal ones

deep copper
foggy path
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lol

quasi mantle
deep copper
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because planning can make you want to do things one way only

primal summit
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indeed

primal summit
deep copper
foggy path
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I don't think generating landscape on tick counts as a "broad stroke" alex

regal pecan
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how have we not mastered synthetic spines already

quasi mantle
deep copper
foggy path
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Considering we've barely mastered synthetic anything relating to the nervous system a spine might be a bit off

quasi mantle
deep copper
regal pecan
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Hm. I was thinking of just the vertebrae and discs. There's at least one surgery where they screw two vertebrae together and you have to think surely that's not the only thing we can do.

deep copper
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that sounds, yucky

primal summit
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not to mention, as one ages and the brain is less buffered against shock, self-induced concussion odds increase

thin storm
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I actually won in fortnite, but I think there are many bots in this game like pubg.

celest musk
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we are all bots

mossy nexus
regal pecan
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Functionally it's alright. You end up with one, larger vertebrae, but it's only because they've removed the compromised disc and have no way to replace it. Which you'd think we could invent by now.

foggy path
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We could but it's more important for billionaires to go to space in phallic rockets

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at least Bill Gates is funding medical science

celest musk
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now imagine the worst corona times without amazon

quasi mantle
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wut

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Something just appeared here before ๐Ÿค”

verbal junco
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we don't understand them well enough

foggy path
verbal junco
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the other is the potential for bodily rejection

foggy path
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Yeah

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There was some promising results with a genetically modified implanted pig's heart I think though

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so there is progress being made

verbal junco
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growing things is easy

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the progress with ghost hearts I think is really good

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but that's still relatively isolated

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you still have to make that work with an existing body

foggy path
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Yeah I mean they modified the genes of the pig so that the human host wouldn't reject the heart

quasi mantle
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Asian parent stereotype is so strong

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I once went into math class like that, not for long though, it was like a trial thing

thick belfry
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Mfw someone says it's not possible anymore to make stylized games in ue5

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Fortnite is literally made by epic

foggy path
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๐Ÿค”

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I wonder if Fortnite uses custom render modes though

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which is as far as I know significantly harder to do in UE than it is in Unity

quasi mantle
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I'm moving it to UE5

sage ermine
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Oh man, I really like the new forums

quasi mantle
bronze axle
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It's great having profiles where we can show off our projects and stuff.

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I think the dev community site is one of the coolest things launched yesterday.

zinc matrix
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So I'm debating whether or not to buy a PS5 and the Spidey game duology, but those are really the only PlayStation exclusives I care about and the total would be like $900

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I also have a friend who has a PS5 and both games and lets me play at his house

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Wondering if I should buy them though

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What you guys think?

foggy path
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Can you afford it? :P

zinc matrix
foggy path
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That sounds like a "no" tbh

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:D

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
foggy path
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Well yeah 900 bucks is not chump change for sure but if it's money you don't need for any other purpose or savings then ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

quasi mantle
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Also you might have some luck buying second hand ones or refurbished

zinc matrix
foggy path
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Yeah it's sensible advice

zinc matrix
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But yeah, waiting for sale sounds good

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Fucking Sony

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Idc if it's in their legal right, Spidey is practically public domain at this point

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Make him all-console

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Fuck Sony

thick belfry
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I was thinking about this today, while watching the Unreal 5 livestream and it reminded me of a story I once heard. A man looked for the greatest general to ever live, and heard that man had already died. So he went to the pearly gates to look for him, and Saint Peter pointed him towards a common looking person. The man said, "that's not the greatest general, I knew that man when he was alive. He was a simple cobbler."
"I know that" said Peter, "but had he been a general, he would have been the greatest of them all"

Why it reminded me of that story is because I look at how accessible unreal is making it for people to not just create games, but have access to so many tools that make it easier to make games. People who would otherwise never have been able to create those experiences, now are able to do so. Gaming hasn't reached it peak at all I think, we are about to see who the greatest generals are

bronze axle
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Guess who's finally here?

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
zinc matrix
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If you know the words you can join in too

quasi mantle
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Hail the dragon

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
zinc matrix
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I'm a pleb

quasi mantle
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Let me get a better link

quasi mantle
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There, much better

bronze axle
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Long history. It's been around since the very first Unreal Editor.

zinc matrix
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Ah

foggy path
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is that what they mean by dragonhell on #cpp alex

zinc matrix
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Speaking of which guess I should do those video lessons now

sage ermine
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they totally should have changed it to a monkey head

zinc matrix
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Imma stream it in a VC so hopefully someone can help me keep my sanity

sage ermine
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a pirate monkey head

quasi mantle
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unreal_dragon ๐Ÿ’จ

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
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(if only there's an emoji to represent force)

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
sage ermine
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ho ho, what is this?

zinc matrix
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He's a Marvel character

quasi mantle
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Ape-ification of agent 47?

zinc matrix
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Usually fights Deadpool, but he's got his own show now for some reason

zinc matrix
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He doesn't work for the government though

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Usually just a hired gun

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But yeah, he's a killer monkey

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What's not to like?

quasi mantle
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Also unreal_dragon appears everytime you put a fresh billboard component

sage ermine
zinc matrix
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I love monkeys

quasi mantle
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I don't know, I just reminded of that old copy pasta for some reason lol

zinc matrix
quasi mantle
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Also kliksphilip talked about UE5 city demo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYYpisXsiRU

...and the future is full of LOW FPS! I bravely venture into the tech demo, so you don't have to. But you still really should. Download it here: https://www.pcgamer.com/unreal-engine-5-city-sample-matrix/
Admittedly, I only tested on...
Ryzen 3700X
Geforce 3080
32 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz
...and the demo recommends a 12 core CPU and at least 64 GB of ra...

โ–ถ Play video
rugged jetty
celest musk
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does it have another origin other than being the default billboard icon?

zinc matrix
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you can ask them if you can go full time?

primal summit
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unreal_dragon pre-technicolor raptor is real!

tiny gazelle
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only time

zinc matrix
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i honestly found this to be pretty incredible

dusk kiln
primal summit
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what about the cigarette brand mascot?

quasi mantle
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What is this?
Another #cpp raid?

slate drift
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cpp boys 4life

tulip orbit
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I have no idea what I'm doing with my niagara particle fx ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

primal summit
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get out the whip, that CPU is slacking!

timber viper
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Convert your slides to dark theme and I'll buy twice

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Yes this is a bribery

fringe plaza
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Discord should remove the option for light mode

primal summit
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nah

timber viper
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You're right

primal summit
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light should ben dark grey, dark should be darket, and black should be black

celest musk
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no

primal summit
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but they'll have to add an alternate for the photon-lovers

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dark blue on neon green

celest musk
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they should add custom themes

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like you could use your own css file on some pages ๐Ÿ˜›

timber viper
primal summit
quasi mantle
celest musk
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.user_AtankWithPotatoes { display: none; }

timber viper
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What a handsome man

quasi mantle
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But knowing Discord being Discord, I'm sure they're going to paywall custom theme behind Nitro

timber viper
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Make #cpp deep black for a punishment as going off topic

celest musk
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well basically most modern browsers allow you do inject custom css and such

timber viper
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(BetterDiscord) is a suspicious and unsecure plugin allows you to add waifus to discord bg

primal summit
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there is a discord web portal

quasi mantle
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You know me so well

timber viper
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I'm waiting for the phase in my life that I'll use Slack and dislike people using Discord

primal summit
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when plz?

timber viper
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Guess who also uses r1der

slate drift
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The plugin seems amazing, would definitely consider to buy it to see how the tank ๐Ÿง  works

timber viper
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No you are not my relative

primal summit
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someone would manage to turn custom themes into a background crypto miner...

slate drift
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Hmm let me look into that as well

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@timber viper This is you, right?

timber viper
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yeah

slate drift
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I'm a hacker hackerman

timber viper
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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the way you drew a line in paint though ๐Ÿ˜„

slate drift
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Old school hacker tho

timber viper
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Yes

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I'm about to release a playable demo build

slate drift
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Yeah I like it too ๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿป

timber viper
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I haven't yet, but I have some goodies in my project so maybe after open-sourcing them I might try my luck

slate drift
timber viper
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Yep

slate drift
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I envy you guys for having the time to work on personal projects!

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Good job

timber viper
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I don't work at anywhere and didn't go to college just to work on my personal project ๐Ÿ˜„

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I had to sacrifice tons of job offers though sad

slate drift
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Honestly this was my plan like 3 years ago, but you know parents...

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I ended up doing a CS degree which I feel good about

timber viper
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That's also something to be proud of ๐Ÿ˜„

slate drift
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I haven't graduated yet lol

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I mean these stuff can be self-taught but still they give you tools/skills and stuff

timber viper
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I thought CS people are some sort of special

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Like Carmack

primal summit
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I'm trying to find the time to learn game dev while homesteading an acre in the mountains, a 45 minute drive each way from my automation engineering job

slate drift
# timber viper Like Carmack

Yeah it's crazy how most of these people who have bright names in the industry have a CS degree, but still I guess there are workarounds

quasi mantle
primal summit
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success rate's pretty low for me

quasi mantle
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Though only in first/second world universities

slate drift
timber viper
quasi mantle
slate drift
primal summit
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yep

quasi mantle
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That's the key to working overseas

slate drift
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There is like no fucking time

slate drift
timber viper
primal summit
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priorities, and robotics and the land win

quasi mantle
timber viper
slate drift
quasi mantle
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Every overseas work that I see require visa to move out, and seems like only being a reputable uni graduate can get you free (excuse to get) visa without prior experience on other reputable studios

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If that isn't the case, I would've lived somewhere else by now and working for a good studio lol

slate drift
slate drift
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But you know, for such jobs you have like thousands applying lol

quasi mantle
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One can say "you gotta start somewhere", but in some cases that somewhere led you to nowhere. Oh well.

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Gotta enjoy the low paying local jobs.

slate drift
slate drift
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But I needed it so bad, considering the fact that there are no local UE jobs lol

quasi mantle
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My crappy equipment is what holds me back from taking remote jobs tbh

slate drift
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100%. Thanks god mine is really good

quasi mantle
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Well, I guess I'm just unlucky

primal summit
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my internet is a big issue for me trying remote

primal summit
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8 meg dsl is the only option

quasi mantle
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Barely got anything to save after paying all the bills and food

slate drift
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So it's good

quasi mantle
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Thus I'm stuck with potato that almost like kicking the bucket at certain times.
Not to mention third world country internet

primal summit
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where at if I can ask?

slate drift
quasi mantle
primal summit
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yeah

quasi mantle
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Indonesia

primal summit
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ahh

quasi mantle
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A third world country.

timber viper
slate drift
timber viper
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Bali is awesome

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I want to go there too

slate drift
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Bali is heaven

quasi mantle
next flint
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@floral nexus I love those glowing mushrooms, they look great!

primal summit
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by the original definition, anything outside the USSR, USA, and Britain was the third world

quasi mantle
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Unfortunately I'm not in Bali island lol

slate drift
primal summit
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basically, those not primary in the cold war

quasi mantle
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Apart from that, I have no idea.

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Still, even with all the exotic natural tourism targets, life still suck here, at least as someone who is passionate on game development

timber viper
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What matters is how locals live tbh

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That determines the destiny of a country

slate drift
quasi mantle
timber viper
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How much states Indonesia has?

quasi mantle
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Not states, but provinces. About 33 of them.

slate drift
quasi mantle
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Though granted each province is so different, it might as well be their own states lol

quasi mantle
timber viper
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You name them, I dont remember if it was states or provinces

quasi mantle
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I don't know much about Malaysian geographies tbh

timber viper
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You seem to dont care at all lol

slate drift
timber viper
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Like "just get me outta here"

timber viper
quasi mantle
quasi mantle
slate drift
quasi mantle
timber viper
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Why no studios intereted in you?

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Job posts raving about animators and technical artists these days from what I can see

slate drift
quasi mantle
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Besides I self taught animation stuff by making fanmade stuff

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Not sure if that's even worth putting on AS

slate drift
quasi mantle
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That'll put salt on my injury lol

slate drift
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I'm planning on making a portfolio website in a few months NM_PepeGlasses

quasi mantle
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I'd love to, but I'm not sure if it's worth putting them in ArtStation
Considering it's fanmade of existing IP, and using premade assets (apart from the animation stuff)

timber viper
# quasi mantle But I don't have visa and passport ๐Ÿ™ƒ My last education was high school

That doesnt matter though. There are people know these topics more than me for sure but I saw very idiot people get into roles and migrate to overseas by networking only. Like a friend of me shipped a broken game to Steam and he was the reason why it was broken. But team didn't declare that and he managed to work on Ubisoft as jr programmer just because he had that game on his portfolio

quasi mantle
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When everyone else seem to make everything on display from scratch in AS

slate drift
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Pretty sure it's the same for art/animation roles

quasi mantle
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Well, I don't know if it's ethical to put premade meshes on ArtStation (as in the assets were siphoned from a game's official repository, and it's fanmade because it is my fun excuse to learn technical animation stuff)

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I'm already thinking of just putting them on YouTube, but doubt that'll fly if I embed it to AS

slate drift
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It's really a matter of time

quasi mantle
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I guess I'm just too nervous of being not using assets made from scratch, even though the materials, animations, and the BPs are.

slate drift
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But Artstation should be your home eventually

quasi mantle
rare sparrow
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Procedural generation can be funny sometimes peepoGiggle

quasi mantle
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||(rather a blunt way of saying they're ripped, but not exactly hacking as the game server is accessible)||

slate drift
quasi mantle
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I loved the game series, so much so that I made machinimas with the official assets with UE4 (and soon UE5 once I get the modifications from my custom 4.27 working)

green current
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There's a huge difference between ripping assets and using assets that are on market places in a portfolio though

quasi mantle
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And frankly I learned a lot in the process

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Which give me ability to answer many questions on #animation

quasi mantle
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Some of the knowledge do got dumped to this server and my original game project

green current
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Could always do machinima for YouTube and swap characters for art station

quasi mantle
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But at the moment it's not in a presentable state

slate drift
quasi mantle
pearl elk
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I think I might go back to using UDK

quasi mantle
pearl elk
slate drift
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You got Venus I guess it's called coming soonโ„ข๏ธ

quasi mantle
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But in the end, I don't think helping other people in a Discord server is even worth a qualification, though I still love answering questions if I know what's happening with it.

slate drift
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Your clients waiting for you to update the plugins be like: wat

slate drift
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You got yourself a buyer

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I will start with the Tick one to see how it goes

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If I find it interesting I will buy the Options one ๐Ÿ˜›

timber viper
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Did the options plugin worth it though lol

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Docs has more text than my utility system

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Did you earn enough to make it worth

slate drift
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Even though it doesn't make the sellings he wants, he's stashing experience NM_PepeGlasses

timber viper
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So you sold/developed same plugin for two studios?

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Is that legal ๐Ÿ˜…

slate drift
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Haha smart

timber viper
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Nice

slate drift
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That's it, so it's no easy job to extend/integrate it whatsoever

quasi mantle
timber viper
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I really should find a PayPal account to publish my plugins too

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Why would a government block paypal Facepalm

slate drift
slate drift
quasi mantle
timber viper
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Yeah

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Like Iran,Cuba etc

quasi mantle
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So you can't make account or withdraw from it?

timber viper
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Nope

quasi mantle
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Indonesia can't deposit to paypal, but at least they still allow account ownership and withdrawal

timber viper
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Epic migrated to Hyperwallet and destroyed my financial stability hellmo

slate drift
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So you update the plugin and then integrate it into the team project? I thought you did work only the project version and then after you are finished with them you push stuff to the marketplace plugin

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Or probably worked on two different versions

quasi mantle
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Well, I don't interact with #cpp much, so yeah

timber viper
quasi mantle
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looks at my over reliance on Kismet libs

slate drift
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Yeah, only time can tell. I have been actively here for like two months and I can only say good things. Literally my skills and the info/resources I got from the people here is amazing

timber viper
slate drift
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I see

quasi mantle
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#include "Kismet/KismetMathLibrary.h"

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Well, if FMath doesn't have the same function, I just go full on UKismetMathLibrary lol

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Sorry y'all

slate drift
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Yeah people become Cralpi lol

quasi mantle
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Good grief

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At least he didn't storm my DM

slate drift
quasi mantle
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He first stormed in #animation, which coincidentally the channel I frequent on

slate drift
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Lmao. Such a loss I missed that

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Ah now I started connecting the dots heh

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Lol was he more aggressive than Cralpi?

quasi mantle
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Still, safe to say I'm not proud of that one

slate drift
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What channels did he storm?

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Lmfao

quasi mantle
slate drift
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The funny thing is that all these funny stories happen in #cpp lol

quasi mantle
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#cpp is like THE saloon of this server

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You know in wild west movies, many fights happen in saloon/pubs

slate drift
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Literally. I see people asking there mp and BP questions

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Sometimes

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Which is funny

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I haven't laughed this hard since a while, you guys made my day

quasi mantle
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Dangit, I keep forgetting that Control Rig is still disabled by default in 4.27

zinc matrix
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Good afternoon loungers

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have a good day

quasi mantle
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looks at clock 11:42

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(I can't use 12-hour suffixes lmao)

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The former

slate drift
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Mine is 8am but I've been awake since yesterday CryingMan

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FSR I thought you were from the states hmm

broken sigil
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Feel like I missed something

slate drift
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Lol, I have my last exam on Friday, so I had to Sad_Patrick

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Ah ok pm

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not am lol

slate drift
#

I keep forgetting about them. I use 24h system

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I'm, but I already got used to 24h that it's hard for mind to accept new stuff

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I have a friend over there btw

slate drift
#

Talking like Canada is two neighborhoods

broken sigil
#

6:45AM ๐Ÿ˜

slate drift
broken sigil
#

Updating a custom branch to 5.0 ๐Ÿ˜…

slate drift
#

Yeah it's crazy

zinc matrix
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says good (insert time of day)

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WOW TIMEZONES WOOOWWW

quasi mantle
#

I'm still downloading the prerequisites lol

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Because I didn't clone 5.0 source until stable yesterday lol

slate drift
#

What did you work on?

quasi mantle
broken sigil
broken sigil
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The city demo will wait for the better days when I decide to leave my house and buy another SSD

slate drift
#

I meant in general, but yeah I felt like it's NDA stuff before I asked ใŠ™๏ธ

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Daaang you work on CPU stuff?(I don't think that's what you meant, but better ask)

quasi mantle
#

If it werent for my machinima project, I wouldn't have forked 5.0 lol

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At least because of it I can simply cherry pick the commit in the future for 5.x

slate drift
#

Haha yeah that's like top hard stuff that I won't dare even to look into xD

#

I wanted to say that finally I can go to sleep comfortably but then this came WutFace

broken sigil
#

Some "healthy" food while waiting for the engine to build ๐Ÿ˜…

quasi mantle
#

My original game project stays at 4.27, because it need to work on low end hardware.
So without the machinima project, I wouldn't have any incentive to fork 5.0

pearl elk
#

donut is now compiling

quasi mantle
#

At least few weeks from now I can answer those dang #animation questions from UE5

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I've been wanting to answer those, but can't, because I don't use UE5 preview builds

slate drift
quasi mantle
slate drift
#

Yes lol

quasi mantle
#

High five for Ramadan fasting gang๐Ÿ–๏ธ

broken sigil
slate drift
slate drift
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I'm taking a course that has to do with this probably next semester ๐Ÿ˜›

slate drift
quasi mantle
#

Yup

slate drift
#

Nice

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True you're Indonesian :faceslap:

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By the way how many hours do you fast

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Cuz it varies from region to another

quasi mantle
slate drift
#

You guys are damn lucky

quasi mantle
#

So around 12 hours

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Well, benefit of living in equators xD

slate drift
#

We fast from 5:00 to 19:10

slate drift
#

So like 14 hours Sad_Patrick

quasi mantle
#

I feel ya xD

slate drift
broken sigil
#

Yeah... have to leave my house for that ๐Ÿ˜…

quasi mantle
#

Wait before his SSD hit the I/O limit ๐Ÿ˜†

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Though that makes me wonder, how durable SSDs are for such heavy job
mechanical HDs aren't strictly limited to how many I/O is performed

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Not to mention moving the folder where Unreal Engine source build is located means rebuilding the entire thing

broken sigil
#

Well this one is rated for like 2.5k TB writes so I sure hope it lasts that much

quasi mantle
#

Also, now that we have unreal_dragon emoji...
Blueprint BAD icon emoji when ๐Ÿ˜

slate drift
#

I don't care as I get faster operations and I don't hear that disk turning with the needle sound

quasi mantle
#

The I/O limit is still holds me back from buying one tbh

broken sigil
#

The oldest SSD I have is a SATA one from like 3 or 4 years ago
Still seems to be working fine

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

slate drift
#

Jeez

broken sigil
broken sigil
slate drift
#

Goes and buys himself a HDD

quasi mantle
#

HDDs aren't restricted to such thing, but I/O speed is slow by today's standard

broken sigil
#

For long term reliable storage I would still keep a HDD around

quasi mantle
#

Also I think building Unreal Engine source code is bottlenecked by HDD I/O speed more

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Because it seems that even with humble 2 core CPU, C++ compiles just fast

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But then when it took long, disk activity seem to hit the peak

broken sigil
#

I need to get an NVME SSD, the sata ones become a bottleneck with 32 threads

slate drift
#

I mean yeah. I used to compile my c++ projects years ago on a HDD, but man that was a hell of a nightmare

slate drift
quasi mantle
#

But the speed gain seem to be like having your ear fully clear from ear waxes clogging up

slate drift
#

Haha sadly yes

green current
#

I keep getting this in my youtube suggestions and every time my brain goes, oh is that a Nanite demo? before reading the title

quasi mantle
#

There's no point for me to keep looking at them when I can't leverage it

#

I think that myself watching too many of those UE5 videos could lead to contemplating life, leading to insecurity and eventually go mentally insane to the point of accumulating suicidal thoughts

#

At least my YouTube feeds are still mostly UE4, some anime stuff, retro tech, and music

#

Those kept me less insecure tbh

zinc matrix
#

tutorial titles used to have UE4 in them

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now they have UE4/UE5

#

it's becoming UE5 day by day

quasi mantle
#

If not outright just UE5

zinc matrix
#

how long do we have left?

broken sigil
quasi mantle
#

Then maybe I could cut off UE from my YT feed if I still living a shit life with potato equipment held by duct tape (literally; few parts are mechanically broken already)

green current
#

Might as well include both if there's no major differences for the particular tutorial

quasi mantle
#

Collecting the savings would take me years and still won't have enough to buy a new gaming PC/laptop with current income rate
Still lucky that my YT feed isn't intoxicated by UE5 stuff

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Most I can do to keep my insecurity at bay.

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Now all I can do is try to see if UE5 is friendly to potatoes with all the fancy features away, and maybe get the low budget MMD machinima community on board. They are more appreciative with potatoes.

zinc matrix
#

Nothing spoils your will to sleep like being bit by some god forsaken little bastard insect as you fall asleep

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any idea what it was?

zinc matrix
#

I think it was one of those massive Wisconsin black ants

fringe plaza
#

You're spiderman now

zinc matrix
#

I maede tha little bastard payload

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Though*

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Squished him

#

Be a racist. Aint nothing in this world that says you cant. The world is yours. Im not saying anyone's gonna like you though...

quasi mantle
zinc matrix
#

that was supposed to be ironically inspirational haha

quasi mantle
#

Tell someone "just buy a new hardware lol" even if he's in less fortunate circumstances, and you still have enough people on your side

zinc matrix
#

I'm confused

quasi mantle
#

Just thinking out loud

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Because it seems like it when I look at online forums and whatnot

pearl elk
#

Man those poor people aye, dirtying up the streets, why dont they just get a job

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Spiderman in particular, what a slacker, leaving webs around for other people to clean up pfft he's really not THAT friendly

cursive crypt
#

They NPCs

zinc matrix
#

smh just make wise investment decisions, now buy my scam course on how to sell products and make your first millionโ„ข๏ธ

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Oh yea because being a scumbag loser communist did everyone any good haha

quasi mantle
#

NGL I kept thinking about quitting game development altogether
Sometimes wished I don't learn Unreal Engine

cursive crypt
#

Bye!

quasi mantle
#

That faithful year of 2017

#

Not to mention I'm getting nowhere even with my knowing of UE, when the demand ask for something else entirely

pearl elk
#

game development is overrated

#

its great to feel totally excluded all the time because you dont fit in the AAA or indie boxes

quasi mantle
#

Sometimes wished I don't get into UE, so that I won't have this fucking insecurities

zinc matrix
#

I prefer game degradation

#

This is some rent

#

Rant*

cursive crypt
#

What is the opposite of AAA?

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ZZZ?

zinc matrix
#

not the best joke give events...

deep copper
#

not ZZZ but zzz

quasi mantle
#

Who knows if I have less anxiety if I don't delve into UE, but eh, too late to turn back already

cursive crypt
#

taps head

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hex magic

fringe plaza
#

Yes I deleted my comment cause it was too spicy

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

Such a wonderful conversation

quasi mantle
pearl elk
#

all you need to do is half arse making a game and piss everyone off, thats about all it takes for modern game dev

quasi mantle
#

At least YT algorithm is still my go to echo chamber

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(and the machinima/anime community)

cursive crypt
#

Put superman as waifu, it will sell.

quasi mantle
#

Who waifu'd Superman anyway?

deep copper
#

strivvy i would imagine

quasi mantle
#

Spiderman would make more sense because Peni Parker

deep copper
pearl elk
#

Spider Gwenom ๐Ÿซ€

quasi mantle
#

But now everyone's talking about UE5
I was hoping UE5 would release way later into the summer, but yeah

#

I pushed UE4's 3D rendering feature set so hard to work on low spec while at the same time getting good graphics

deep copper
#

just because ue5 is out, i don't think ue4 is suddenly outdated, specially for low ends? besides the earlier it releases the more info on the engine would be out sooner

cursive crypt
#

Also add gacha.

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Gotta keep that gambling up.

quasi mantle
#

I'm against gacha, contrary to most anime fans

pearl elk
#

wait whats wrong with UE5?

quasi mantle
#

I hated Genshin Impact because of it

deep copper
cursive crypt
#

No, you add waifus and gachas if you want to succeed. Also dark souls.

green current
#

Yeah if you want UE5 to run on average hardware, you just turn off all the big features and it's running like UE4 does

deep copper
#

so your plan still works then right, of only taking the few features you want

quasi mantle
deep copper
#

i thought ue5 was ue4 compatible? did they remove a lot of stuff?

zinc matrix
#

Lotsa nerdspeak here lik

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Lol

deep copper
#

so there must be something that pulls people in

quasi mantle
green current
#

Tessellation was the only thing removed that people are annoyed about

quasi mantle
#

And in UE5 I can only use SSGI

#

At least looking at my stat, LPV isn't the main offender

quasi mantle
#

If not gacha, it'd be DLC fest

quasi mantle
deep copper
pearl elk
#

tbh if your pipeline is pretty solid on UE4s features Id just roll with it, there were plenty of UE3 games coming out after UE4s release

zinc matrix
#

all hail rocket league

green current
#

The vast majority of UE5 games aren't going to be using lumen anyway

#

At least for a few years

pearl elk
#

the logo is powered by unreal engine doesnt really say which version

deep copper
#

tbh when i see powered by ue in any game i automatically assume it's a huge size download lol

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
quasi mantle
#

I tested it with no sky lights and no SSGI once, so no other feature fooling me

cursive crypt
#

Is my turn to rant?
I can't see what I have watched on the new Learning portal :/

quasi mantle
#

Sure, I ran out of contemplating tears anyway

cursive crypt
#

It is much more snappy tho, the new dev portal. Like the speed.

quasi mantle
deep copper
cursive crypt
#

Gosh... there tons of snippets already.

quasi mantle
#

At least it doesn't demand fancy equipment

deep copper
#

hmmmm alright

quasi mantle
#

Just making vector graphic designs, surely not that demanding for remote work hardware side

deep copper
#

well it's better than worrying about ue5 for now, meanwhile you can also figure out what to do with this

quasi mantle
#

I'd prefer not to think about UE5's new rendering features until I somehow got myself better hardware

#

As for this server, I'll try focus on just UE4 questions, if there's any that is.

deep copper
#

true, the ones who will have questions are definitely going to use ue5 now

quasi mantle
#

I'd still try to skip them.
The last thing I want to see myself getting into is hardware theft

#

I don't want to go that desperate into crime.

deep copper
#

" for the glory of ue5 "

quasi mantle
#

I guess it's a funny headline, "Local man stole gaming computer just to run Unreal Engine 5 - hopes to help others with UE5 and make good things with it"
But nah, that's too much to risk for a funny headline

green current
#

Part of the reason I got a new GPU was hardware envy for what I've been putting together at work

cursive crypt
#

While I will repeat that you don't need much of hardware to make games, I do think pride plays a big role and I have fallen for it too.

deep copper
#

"hardware envy"?

green current
#

8x 1080ti, 8tb SSD storage, 768gb ram servers

deep copper
#

:/

green current
#

That I don't get to play with

quasi mantle
deep copper
#

that's quite a torture

quasi mantle
#

Even though I don't want to say it as "torture"

zinc matrix
#

no matter how good ue5 looks

#

still it's all about basics

#

๐Ÿ˜„

quasi mantle
#

sigh if only local used hardware market is as friendly as the northern hemisphere...

#

We basically use things until it's very death heheheheh

#

Second hand stuff sold in usable condition is rarer because of it and can go for exorbitant amount of price

deep copper
#

"what doesn't kills you makes you stronger"

#

or costly in this case

quasi mantle
#

If it kills you, you can't go any stronger

deep copper
#

you probably can't go at all then

quasi mantle
#

Well, if you're already dead, how can you go stronger after the fact?

#

Sentient zombies aren't real, that's for sure

deep copper
#

i wish they were ๐Ÿ˜ข

quasi mantle
#

Especially now that I deleted 4.26 and 4.27 no longer support 32-bit

rare mauve
#

32 bit... ?

pearl elk
#

I remember when UDK went 64bit everyone was like...

acoustic ledge
#

So, I thought that with the full release of 5.0 that a lot of plugin developers would be ready to update, but I'm not seeing this

quasi mantle
#

Yeah, it's the same old song again

rare mauve
quasi mantle
#

I mean, why would a boomer shooter, dumb tools, hypercasual game that kind of stuff, won't run in 32-bit

pearl elk
#

what platform you targeting that doesnt support 64bit?

quasi mantle
#

So basically none

rare mauve
#

If you're using a 32 bit pc in 2022 then I am truly sorry for you

#

If you think 32 bit hardware still has a reason to be made, then no, it doesn't (I mean... As far as games etc)

quasi mantle
pearl elk
#

according to the Googles macOS has been 64bit since Catalina

quasi mantle
#

But it's shit nonetheless

rare mauve
#

Then why are you slightly defending an obsolete architecture that has absolutely zero benefits... 32 vs 64 isn't like analog vs digital ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
#

Well you could say 32bit apps use less memory and be correct but youre also limiting maximum memory

rare mauve
#

No they don't. Apps that use less memory use less memory

quasi mantle
#

I guess just my brain being my brain, thinking that dumb tools, boomer shooter, and casual game should be work on 32-bit

#

Granted, I'm a poor idiot, no surprise

pearl elk
quasi mantle
#

As if me thinking of supporting low end integrated gpu hardware wasn't stupid enough as it is

rare mauve
#

Ok fine, a 32 bit app that takes 2000MB of memory might use 2000.5MB of memory on 64 bit notionthonking

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
pearl elk
#

maybe you should just give up on the boomer shooter and play Valorant

quasi mantle
#

Sure, my dumb tools are going to take 2 GB of RAM, even though it's bare Engine minimum of Unreal

#

And some of my dumb tools are native apps

pearl elk
#

oh looks like even Valorant doesnt support 32bit

#

but the min specs are Intel HD 4000

quasi mantle
#

I'd play valorant, but I'm not into competitive shooters

#

Would prefer more dicking around death match sessions

pearl elk
#

deathmatch sounds abit grim

broken sigil
pearl elk
#

maybe you should call it rainbow unicorn hyper icecream splash match

quasi mantle
#

Had some fun playing in custom Odamex servers

pearl elk
quasi mantle
pearl elk
#

oh I know punk rock

#

I used to listen to this little old band called Sex Pistols

#

is that like a boomer shooter?

#

I wonder what kinda shooter Bon Jovi or Bruce Springsteen would be

unreal ether
quasi mantle
quasi mantle
pearl elk
quasi mantle
#

The news said it's delayed to 2021, but it's 2022 and doesn't seem to be any news on it

pearl elk
#

Did you know that both Cypress Hill and Metallica have a Black album

#

bit grim for rainbow unicorn extra latte frappichino icecream match though

#

or maybe choose a metal band with a female lead

#

then you can really pull that goth crowd

deep copper
#

are you a goth?

pearl elk
#

nah Im a moth

deep copper
#

i am a lamp come to me <3

unreal ether
#

Nah im Qua'loth Son of Azarec

deep copper
#

googles

unreal ether
#

Idk i made it up

#

If it returns smthn ig im just that good

cursive crypt
deep copper
#

and it still didn't return much

unreal ether
#

Aha

deep copper
#

it did return Witcher Loth , and , jellyfish?

unreal ether
#

Son of Azure Devops?

#

Welp guess im a jellyfish

#

Worse things to be ig

deep copper
unreal ether
#

I do if you ask nicely

deep copper
#

do you electrify and.. tangle things with those grass like stuff?

unreal ether
#

Depends if i'm hungry

deep copper
#

i am quite edible, just saying

#

jk ofc

pearl elk
#

you dont want to eat anything grim

deep copper
#

here's some useless stats

mons total messages:
140,963
mons messages in lounge:
138,968

98.584735% messages in lounge ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

i have 99.9027427% messages in lounge though

zinc matrix
#

nice bridge scene

#

found this tutorial

#

will try it with matrix demo somehow

deep copper
unreal ether
#

Im about 1300 out of 4600

#

Sad times

fringe plaza
unreal ether
#

Just use the discord search

#

Search from you, and you get your total messages

#

Search from you in lounge, and you get lounge amount

#

Lounge / total

#

Boom

#

Well

#

X 100

soft night
#

!8ball does search give you anything?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@soft night, :8ball: Most likely.

fringe plaza
#

:PepoG:

unreal ether
#

See its gotta be true if its Manny โ„ข๏ธ approved

pearl elk
#

I wonder why there is no children manny or quinns

soft night
#

!8ball so searching is meaningless?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@soft night, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

fringe plaza
unreal ether
deep copper
pearl elk
#

Epic dont want you to shoot children obv

unreal ether
#

I dont think a lot of people do....

soft night
#

!8ball are there children in you or quinns?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@soft night, :8ball: Ask again later.

fringe plaza
deep copper
#

in process then

unreal ether
#

Oh no

pearl elk
deep copper
#

many anime games are about beating children ๐Ÿค”

unreal ether
#

Genshin impact is just child labour

#

Damn even anime fighting games is just children throwing planets n stuff at each other

#

Who taught these children to be so murderous

#

Damn

deep copper
#

yup yup

soft night
deep copper
#

children with big bones ๐Ÿค”

#

gigantism

unreal ether
#

Mah theyre all just cartman

deep copper
#

cartman?

unreal ether
#

Why is the Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Animals approving sausage

#

Sausage making seems pretty cruel all things considered

#

I mean i wouldnt wanna be killed and squished

deep copper
#

be careful, the sausage could be poisoned

#

if they take out the demand, the small sacrifices would be worth it

unreal ether
#

Oh damn

deep copper
#

feed them to me so i can poison test them for you <3

unreal ether
#

Ill have to fight back by making plants out of meat, kind of like all of the plant based meat substitutes

#

You wanna make a burger out of beans?

I fire back with my meat lettuce

deep copper
#

the food market would get complicated then

unreal ether
#

I shall call my new brand "Still" meat

#

I shall rival beyond

#

Become a corporate empire

#

Then i shall gift other countries with greggs

#

World domination is too boring

unreal ether
#

Im morbidly curious myself ngl

deep copper
unreal ether
#

But then the problem is everything is meat so everyone dies from malnutrition

#

Hm

deep copper
unreal ether
deep copper
unreal ether
#

Anyone played the new lego star wars

#

Its pretty great

#

Not entirely movie accurate

#

||not unless general greivous dabs on obi wan on the movie||

deep copper
#

i have no idea what that is

#

actually i have some clues

deep copper
#

hey the saber guy

#

that cuts himself

deep copper
#

hmmm guess no preview for me

soft night
#

grievious who was jedi but wanted to remove itself from jedi

verbal junco
#

the great dab of 2009

zinc matrix
#

too bad matrix demo road mesh details are not seperated, but then again it's kinda easy to build

#

feels like every city will look the same

#

and you will get nightmares probably from tearing the project apart lol

deep copper
#

ugh

soft night
#

building your own loop in the matrix

zinc matrix
#

also can't load all map cells without crashing

#

unloaded them

#

i mean

#

it's almost like that pack

soft night
zinc matrix
#

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#

meshes placed like this ๐Ÿ˜ค

proud jay
#

man amazon is so mean, I delayed ordering a package so that it would arrive on saturday cause I'm not home friday. Now I get a fucking email that it will be deliverd friday anyway ๐Ÿ˜ก

pearl elk
#

not very efficient on their part

fringe plaza
#

First people complain about slow shipping now they complain about fast shipp

pearl elk
#

its not all about speed though, say you type 90 words per minute but make 50% mistakes

#

efficiency would mean typing slower to raise accuracy and reduce rework

mossy nexus
#

well when people say they can type 90 words a min, what they mean is they can type 90 correectly speeled words a minute

fringe plaza
#

Sure but how Amazon seemly predicted a date and then are running ahead of schedule and so they have updated the customer that they are ahead of schedule thay seems pretty efficient ti me

#

Yes correectly speeled to be fair that is accounted for in most wpm tests

pearl elk
#

maybe being on schedule is more important, thats the issue with lateness really

proud jay
#

this would be an easy fix if they would just let me schedule a delivery date

#

then you could still say asap

fringe plaza
#

But in shipping onschhedule is as fast as possible.

#

I think you can in delivery instructions

#

I'm pretty sure there's a way you can set when packages get delivered if I remember but I could be talking out my ass cause I haven't done it

proud jay
#

I saw that on the support page of the us an uk amazon, but I never found it when placing my order

#

on nl amazon

fringe plaza
#

Ahhhhh I have absolutely zero clue then

pearl elk
#

maybe you gotta pay extra for them to go slow ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
#

in a scale of (smart) 0 to 12 (dumb), how UE goes for creating UI apps?

deep copper
#

if the app needs ue features, it's a nice thing

#

but usually i don't think the size and other pain would be worth it

#

people usually just pack web stuff and call it an app right

zinc matrix
#

!8ball is it Mario time?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Yes.

zinc matrix
deep copper
#

its a me mario

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
deep copper
#

i have no idea what that is

#

i just know the red blue moustache guy is mario

zinc matrix
deep copper
#

and green blue moustache , slightly taller, is lugi

zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
#

That's kinda his thing

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

Yeah

deep copper
#

unrelated question but, are wall mart and wall street related

zinc matrix
#

depends

zinc matrix
#

yeah^

deep copper
#

ahh, that makes sense

zinc matrix
#

Wario also has his own game company called Warioware

#

He treats his employees like shit though

#

Overall he's a really nice guy

#

I remember this one wario game on the wii

#

was fun from memory

deep copper
#

but if it's successful, it works

zinc matrix
#

hmmm

#

might be it

#

dunno

#

that was like 10 years ago

#

also what's the plot of donkey kong exactly?

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
deep copper
#

smooth moves, shake it, sounds like a dance game

deep copper
#

princess stolen

zinc matrix
#

Not really after a princess or anything

deep copper
#

why not go for other bananas?