lounge

[zinc matrix]

taking my bicycle and earbuds now

keruac was the tipping point of my hitchhike trip

[deep copper]

ohh

[deep copper]

have fun?

[deep copper]

tbh i have never heard that name before

[zinc matrix]

i would read firstly dharma bum

but on the road is considered his masterpiece

[deep copper]

sounds adventurous

[zinc matrix]

a lot of drugs... shame on that guy dying from alcoholism 😦

[deep copper]

o :(

[zinc matrix]

either the way, the write style is cool

[deep copper]

that's nice

[zinc matrix]

yeah, it is a mono block of him typing continuously on the 'new' typewriters

[deep copper]

i have heard typewriters felt good

[zinc matrix]

hahaha

i have some ink lying here

[deep copper]

you have a typewriter?

[zinc matrix]

someone broke the enter (the lever that jumps a line)

but it has been years that i do not make loud noise

[deep copper]

oh yeah, they were very loud and, mechanical weren't they

[zinc matrix]

computers are way friendly

[deep copper]

not as friendly as you

[zinc matrix]

look at this beauty

[deep copper]

thank you for the dark theme notepad

[zinc matrix]

why are you so kind to everyone?

[deep copper]

i am not sure "kind" is the correct word... because i recall someone deleting their account when i had less restraints 🤔

[zinc matrix]

it was me?

[deep copper]

no no that was someone else, years back ;^^

you came back so it's all good

[zinc matrix]

oh so you are here for years!

[deep copper]

not here,, somewhere else, but i do think i was here years before as well

[velvet bramble]

I managed to crash VS22 compiling C++

[deep copper]

what did you do to the poor thing

[velvet bramble]

No clue but I crashed UE5 with it

[deep copper]

it seems like you violated it

[velvet bramble]

No clue how 🤔

[deep copper]

[pearl elk]

I am not env of this test

[velvet bramble]

That was a terrible pun

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/shooter-darren-mc-gavin-golf-yes-gif-5393821

[deep copper]

aren't all puns terrible

[velvet bramble]

I mean

yes but no

[deep copper]

so "it depends" / "maybe"

[velvet bramble]

yeah

[pearl elk]

I can see why UE5 got confused

[velvet bramble]

Bruhhhh, it compiled perfectly without UE5 open

[deep copper]

i would say look into hot reload but ue5 shouldn't have it

[pearl elk]

I just got into the habit of closing the editor while I compile

[velvet bramble]

then we have this 🤔

[deep copper]

if you want actually helpful answers maybe try #cpp

[velvet bramble]

Yeah, i'll do that if I can't find what's wrong

[deep copper]

because all i can say is "woah something is wrong"

[velvet bramble]

It might just be a broken install of UE5

Oooookay, I think I might just delete and reinstall
I used the engine to create a class and lots of errors

[deep copper]

okay have fun goodluck

[velvet bramble]

tyty

[deep copper]

🫂

[velvet bramble]

In the meantime, hru?

[deep copper]

okay, i think

you?

[velvet bramble]

Not too bad, my brother is annoying me as per usual

[deep copper]

annoying huh, do they want something?

[velvet bramble]

Like usual, yep
on-top of being extremely loud

[deep copper]

😔 fixing bugs and that definitely makes it 100x annoying

[velvet bramble]

this is where I find out I'm using the wrong ue5 🤣

I have one I compiled from source and one downloaded through the launcher

[deep copper]

ue5, ue5 everywhere

[velvet bramble]

UE5 my beloved

[deep copper]

❤️ ❤️

that looks like an insect face

[pearl elk]

new Bioshock is using UE5

[quasi mantle]

Everyone use UE5

Kids these days

[pearl elk]

What if I told you there is no UE5, that its not the engine that changes only yourself

[deep copper]

"there IS no spoon"

[velvet bramble]

"you ARE the spoon"

[deep copper]

"let's spoon <3"

[pearl elk]

Tim Spooney

[deep copper]

ah, creator of blender was Ton Roosendaal , no wonder i kept getting confused

and creator of www was Tim Berners-Lee, so many similar names

[velvet bramble]

One thing I've noticed is UE5 is not as heavy as UE4

[deep copper]

you mean, size? fat?

[velvet bramble]

Also, found my issue, the UE5 install kept directing to the self-built 😂

[deep copper]

oopsie

[velvet bramble]

Changed the stable install dir to my other drive

[velvet bramble]

in general, usually it would take 10 years to load but UE5 seems to load quicker 🤔

[deep copper]

so less startup weight hug

huh

[velvet bramble]

Seems to be, it could be that I have my ram settings different too

my cpu hasn't changed since ue4 so yeah

[deep copper]

i have heard people get less fps in some ue5 cases but that's potato spec pc for ue so

[quasi mantle]

UE5's perf on potato is still uncharted territory

[velvet bramble]

Oh i get some fps drops but that's because my system doesn't meet the recommended for Lyra or CitySample

[quasi mantle]

Been hesitant to build the source until it released.

[velvet bramble]

Don't pull a me and build source in the same dir as the launcher does

it broke a few things for me

[deep copper]

dw! breaking things is a part of development!

[quasi mantle]

At least I only use UE5 as R&D purposes for now

[deep copper]

what do you use ue4 for then?

there are 2 lorash in the server

🤔

[velvet bramble]

CitySample makes my GPU go brrr

[thin storm]

they never released the demo for pc probably for performance reasons.

[quasi mantle]

You know that I said I have more than one active project

So here's how it goes:

• main game project, Past Future. This stays in 4.27, with planned next gen upgrade using future versions of 5.x. The base version has to work on lower end hardware.
• Idolmaster machinima project. This will be both in 4.27 and 5.0, and both custom engine builds. It's far more experimental, and I can use it to move my 4.27 modification over to UE5, in the hopes that I can simply cherry pick it on newer engine versions.
• the general R&D project, Xenoglossia. This goes to 5.x

[deep copper]

that's nice

playing it safe ic

[deep copper]

but they also have the same pfp , no messages so far though, i wonder if this is another thing like that tank duplicate? for only adding reactions

iirc impersonation was against TOS i did NOT double check so i could be wrong

[quasi mantle]

Impersonating real person could end up in lawsuit

[deep copper]

as in irl impersonation of person or lorash isn't real person

well they are a cat person

[quasi mantle]

Catboy if you will

Lorash moefication when

[deep copper]

it's now or never

more like sooner or later at this point 🤔

[shy scarab]

hey i have a question and i dont know where to ask it

how do i know that a i know a specific programming language realy good

like im learning c++ for some time now and when do i know that i realy masterd it

[verbal junco]

how would that knowledge ever benefit you

do you also ask if any real language is "really good"?

hey guise is french really good?

[deep copper]

you can never master any language

keep that in mind, if you think that, you stop growing

as long as you have the basic concepts down of everything in it, i would say you are good to go

but remember, libraries, 3rd party stuff, different platform specific stuff, new tech

you can never catch up with all that

[shy scarab]

yea true

tnx

its pretty hard to self learn a programming language as i dont know where to continue

[pearl elk]

you dont know something until you can teach others

[shy scarab]

i dont have anyone to teach lol

[fleet tangle]

If you can answer all the issues in #cpp you're getting there.

If you can't, try to figure out the answers.

[shy scarab]

oh

but tehre is unreal engine c++

im just learning normal c++

[deep copper]

well goodluck on your journey! do have fun, is all i would say. , i am certain people shared useful c++ books and guides around here, can't find any rn

[shy scarab]

thank you!

[fleet tangle]

A lot of the issues in #cpp are related to regular c++

[shy scarab]

i learned Java as well

so it really helps me with c++

[shy scarab]

ight

[fleet tangle]

It might help with patterns, but there's a ton of language features java just doesn't have compared to c++

[shy scarab]

yea

just with the classes and objects

it helps me with that

knowing what is is and how to create them

[deep copper]

if you are familiar with one language that would surely give a headstart compared to absolute beginners. atleast, you are familiar with name schemes and know what magic might be happening in bg, and how maths work

[shy scarab]

yea

[velvet bramble]

I get the hint UE

[verbal junco]

#ue4-general

[velvet bramble]

I don't need help lol

I just never set the license so every build it tells me off

[deep copper]

atleast you know it's doing something if it tells you that

[fleet tangle]

Is that incredishit licence?

[velvet bramble]

No clue at this point, I've disabled a lot of intellisense 😂

[fleet tangle]

Reminds me of incredibuild. You'll build quicker if you disable it.

See current conversion in #ue5-engine-source

[deep copper]

quick hacks

[quasi mantle]

Heh, right

[quasi mantle]

Incredibuild ≠ Intellisense

[velvet bramble]

idk which throws it

Wouldn't surprise me if both did

[quasi mantle]

Definitely not intellisense

[velvet bramble]

Intellisense does hate this for some reason

[cursive crypt]

#cpp

[velvet bramble]

Nah it's a simple reload project

[pearl elk]

Why dont we ever generate feet

[cursive crypt]

No head

[verbal junco]

:personofculture:

[velvet bramble]

lol

[quasi mantle]

Build it

[cursive crypt]

Ship it

[quasi mantle]

Intellisense do sometimes throw false error on macros

[velvet bramble]

Throws errors when building lmao

I've gotten used to it

Finish code, unload, reload, build, done

[quasi mantle]

Also a hot take:
People shit on Error List just because it includes Intellisense errors by default

[velvet bramble]

I find intellisense helpful at times, then other times it's just funky

[quasi mantle]

Same

But I'd stop here before Rider raiders storm the convo

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-pig-rider-coc-gif-23937747

[verbal junco]

it's ok, you can ignore them. rider is for kid after all

[velvet bramble]

burrrn

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-rider-gif-21993442

[thick belfry]

Reminds me of the guy that insisted to use Notepad++ for all his coding and then came to complain his code wasn't working in #cpp

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/live-love-bonfire-dance-gif-12343128

[fleet tangle]

He has a point.

[thick belfry]

Except he had a problem easily solved by an IDE

[fleet tangle]

Well, that's another issue... 😛

[verbal junco]

some people just like shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly

[deep copper]

"learning from experience"

[thick belfry]

Turns out it was a CE alt account all along

[verbal junco]

rider is for kid is a meme lmao

and whoever wrote that message obviously didn't get that memo

[thick belfry]

Sure 😏

[cursive crypt]

Vim btw

[pearl elk]

I write all my code in WordPerfect for DOS

[deep copper]

i mean, intuitive ui is a matter of perspective

so well,

yeah

[zinc matrix]

wow this template of UE5 is looking pretty good

[rustic flare]

XDD

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ghos-rider-gif-23200897

[quasi mantle]

Even I wrote UE4 code through DOSBox running Watcom C++ just for shits and giggles, not actually working there

Even an idiot like myself don't do that

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-rider-flame-on-gif-15730743

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/roast-in-flame-boy-flame-human-torch-johnny-storm-gif-5576597

[soft night]

that is better torch than later for sure

[pearl elk]

makes you wonder what happens if the Human Torch ever met Captain America 😛

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-b-jordan-human-torch-fantastic-four-flame-on-gif-9248706

yeah think captain america and human torch when both are acted same

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hancock-punch-power-gif-17484190

is there no motor cycles or trains in Epics Matrix?

still waiting the thing to DL, interwebs is slow here on Mars

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-hover-bike-bike-hover-video-game-gif-4715729

[pearl elk]

I was thinking how funny it is modern games add all this stuff to speed up infantry traversal when UT back in the day was like "lets just add hoverboards"

or the fact UC2 was a hero shooter 😛

[soft night]

think the new sample look and feel the Unreal Tournament a little

[pearl elk]

lol dont let the purists hear you talking like that

Lyra is nothing like UT <enter 99 problems here>

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tricks-water-hoverboard-watchme-ocean-gif-4891622

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedghog-sonic-rider-float-hover-board-fast-gif-4917248

[velvet bramble]

Aren't we both in the TT server? 😂

[deep copper]

Tele Tubbies?

[velvet bramble]

Nah ThermalTake

[deep copper]

ahh, close enough

[deep copper]

4 letter + 7 letter

[deep copper]

7 + 4

[velvet bramble]

LOL

[thin storm]

Public announcement: I´m downloading Fortnite right now. Thank you for your attention.

[quasi mantle]

PSA: Be nice to the kids

Don't be hostile to them like you're a boomer shooter fanatic.

[pearl elk]

30yr olds trying to recapture their youth arnt kids 😛

doesnt matter how much hair dye they use

[thin storm]

Im a manchild myself.

[quasi mantle]

I swear like many boomer shooter fanatics are fucking hostile to Fortnite kids

[deep copper]

you are the youngest rn than you will ever be! live as a kid that you are!

[pearl elk]

Hi welcome to the internet

[deep copper]

kids are hostile to each other as well

[quasi mantle]

Hi internet I'm game theory

[quasi mantle]

But nothing is more baffling than adults attacking on kids

[pearl elk]

You may have noticed a high level of toxicity among all gaming communities, we are aware of the issue and are doing our best to fix it in the future. Thanks for your patience

[quasi mantle]

Even though they have no parental connections whatsoever

[deep copper]

that's just bullying then

[quasi mantle]

Well, boomer shooter fanatics (or in extent gaming elitists) tend to love bullying the kids

It's just beyond help

[deep copper]

how do tell who is who in a game tho?

you*

[quasi mantle]

Most of the time, voice

But i doubt elitists wanted to play Fortnite

Also local game dev community had unity fanatics crying rn lmao

[deep copper]

hmm

well as long as they all have fun ig

[foggy path]

as a 30+ year old boomer shooter fanatic I am offended

I will cancel you now

[deep copper]

bully me <3

jk, don't

[foggy path]

well now you made it sound pervy

[deep copper]

everything is if you look at it hard enough

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, why?

[deep copper]

force of habit

[zinc matrix]

Yeah well I'm just pissed and stressed

Also fuck math

I hate it

[deep copper]

nope i was the silent one

[deep copper]

everyone does doing it

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-24443037

[foggy path]

https://giphy.com/gifs/whose-line-is-it-anyway-colin-mochrie-1mPu7X17jtH8Y

[zinc matrix]

Sorry to hear

[quasi mantle]

I love it

Yet I got bad grades on it lol

[zinc matrix]

Did it have anything to do with game dev?

[foggy path]

You can pick up all the math you need when doing dev

Obviously easier if you have some existing background but either way

[pearl elk]

better to have a math habit than a meth habit

[quasi mantle]

My math grade at school was shit

[foggy path]

I knew basic trigonometry from school but forgot most of it, mostly just did googling :P

[pearl elk]

I learn hexidecimal at 10 lol

[zinc matrix]

My math grade was passable, I just found it tedious as fuck

[foggy path]

I still don't know most of it but I know enough with vectors to not get stuck lol

[deep copper]

same

[pearl elk]

but they dont teach vectors until high school 😦 they shoulda taught em sooner tbh

[fleet tangle]

Btw... is it just me that gets this?

[quasi mantle]

Yet I still like it

[foggy path]

Never learned vectors in school

[pearl elk]

all those fractions and surds arnt overly useful tbh

[deep copper]

just you

[quasi mantle]

Ballad of compact mode

[deep copper]

i like that it can fit my full username

because I can't see it here, full

[pearl elk]

dont force your cuteness on me

[quasi mantle]

At least trigs are useful

The least useful would be calculus crap

[pearl elk]

yeah trigonometry is alittle better I suppose but you can still do many of those functions with rotational vectors

[deep copper]

honestly, when you find something that solves the problem you run into, it makes a lot more sense

[quasi mantle]

Calculus make least sense when it comes to game dev

[deep copper]

yeah

[foggy path]

I don't even know what calculus is

the branch of mathematics that deals with the finding and properties of derivatives and integrals of functions, by methods originally based on the summation of infinitesimal differences. The two main types are differential calculus and integral calculus.

thanks google that clears it up... not

[deep copper]

it's integration and differentiation

rings any bells?

[foggy path]

No

:D

It's possible we might have talked about those in school but the terminology for them would have been in finnish

But I never learned that much advanced math in school so it's also possible it didn't come up

[deep copper]

it's as google says, it's based on tiny additions, if you have to calculate area under the graph of a weird equation, you will calculate that by adding all the lines it can create under it at each point

[foggy path]

I think the most advanced thing was calculating a derivative of something but I can't remember how that's done, or why you would even want to do that :D

[deep copper]

does that reminds you of anything?

[deep copper]

i think that was probably it then

[foggy path]

Maybe

When they say you need maths for programming they're lying

Only time I ever needed math for programming was for gamedev, my entire career nah

[deep copper]

they are actually, programming is a very different set of logical skills imo, although it can occasionally overlap

[foggy path]

There is probably some connection between the kind of logical reasoning that applies in both but yeah beyond that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep copper]

yup yup, i recall someone telling me about circuit gates once, it's really different logic

volts and stuff or current or whatever through nor xor or whatnot

that might not be the usual programming though but that goes to show the variety possible

[foggy path]

logic gates are basically boolean algebra aren't they

[deep copper]

they look very difficult though, there was a term they were talking about, half cycle or full .. hmm let me search

the diagram looked really creepy

[foggy path]

:D

Yeah on the hardware level it's more complicated I think because of all the clock cycle stuff as well

and how the signal is low/high

[deep copper]

here it is ! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Fulladder.gif

it's an full adder!

there's also a half adder

[foggy path]

I made a half adder in vanilla Fallout 4 lol

[deep copper]

but yeah you should know better by the correct term

[deep copper]

it's like the whole number thing is thrown away

addition subtraction etc rules are all different

[deep copper]

i thought that was a shooter game

[foggy path]

It had some base building stuff that they later expanded in DLC's

There was some kind of signaling system in it which I never thought any useful use for but you could build a half adder with it :P

[pearl elk]

I wish my satisfactories were this neat

[deep copper]

that's an , unexpected kind of dlc

[foggy path]

I mean that was in the base game

[deep copper]

or rather, you used it unexpected way lol

[foggy path]

DLC's just expanded the building options more

[deep copper]

Lol when i read dlc i was thinking mods, so they officially added options ic

[zinc matrix]

So then how did you get enrolled in this math class?

!8ball am I going to Brazil?

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[zinc matrix]

OH NO!

[deep copper]

if you go to brazil you can hug lutriq

[zinc matrix]

AH HELP!

[deep copper]

help with transferring you there?

[zinc matrix]

It's a meme, dude https://youtu.be/OLGzYsvBeb4

For some reason, Brazil is considered Hell now

[deep copper]

??? why what happened

ah wait i should have pinged and replied

now it would be awkward to ping you seperately aaa

[zinc matrix]

This one's my favorite https://youtu.be/nyOVMn-3URc

[deep copper]

ohh

it seems familiar for some reason

[zinc matrix]

just discovered this, man i wasted 3 days of keyframing xD

[deep copper]

not wasted but "learned the hard way"

now you will never forget this exists

[zinc matrix]

yeah true

but sometimes

me angy

like, i cannot find the shortcut for jumping to the begin or end of a clip inside sequencer

[deep copper]

that's, really inconvenient

perhaps .. #animation ...

If your job gave you a surprise three day paid break to rest and recuperate, what would you do with those three days?

i think this question doesn't really apply to this server that well, more like "if you could do something else without worrying about your current main task, what would it be"

[pearl elk]

I think there must be a reason for the job giving that person a break so maybe they should relax for three days

[zinc matrix]

i am actually doing that now bc i broke my wrist. I'm taking the time off to work on my unreal skills and create a short videoclip of 30 seconds for a producer i met online.

[deep copper]

looking deep into it eh 😏

[pearl elk]

can be hard to get out of work mode, mental health is important yo 🙂

[deep copper]

ah, that's, wait isn't that tough without a wrist

[zinc matrix]

yeah, lucky im righthanded and i broke my left

and i can do some keypress, but not too long

[deep copper]

you are practically still working 😂

[pearl elk]

maybe you could try using some voice inputs to minimise the amount of handy work

[deep copper]

voice inputs in video sequencer of ue?

is that a thing?

[pearl elk]

I mean for the computer stuff in general so that you have more left for the actual work

[deep copper]

ahh right

use wherever possible kinda

[zinc matrix]

haha yeah i was thinking about that but i'll manage haha

[zinc matrix]

yeah haha, if only i can get paid then i would really love my job 🙂

[pearl elk]

automate all the things

[deep copper]

that reminds me of the other question
If you could use magic to do one mundane task for the rest of your life, what would it be?

[pearl elk]

either going to the toilet or being able to magic through traffic

[subtle hatch]

https://youtu.be/Io12BnJ7EaQ

[zinc matrix]

house cleaning work 😛

[primal summit]

filling my bank account

[verbal junco]

they should have called it 6.0 just to one up epic

[zinc matrix]

Sometimes everything works like i want in Unreal and it makes me happy

[zinc matrix]

Is that a public engine? like can normies use it, i heard it is one of the heaviest engines out there

[verbal junco]

I don't know but I'm sure google does

[zinc matrix]

Oh i thought you were the poster. I can google it yeah, just trynna have some social interactions in my day lol

[verbal junco]

social interactions are banned

nah sorry my brain is a bit fried

6 hrs of meetings

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/grill-fry-punishment-punish-discipline-gif-15980936

[deep copper]

that would surely be worthy usage lol

[deep copper]

yeah... just oraganizing in general

[deep copper]

oi that's too much xD

[primal summit]

Error: undefined bounds.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-hot-dog-eating-eat-chili-dog-gif-24083489

[cursive crypt]

f... I want a hotdog, damn diets

[soft night]

what diets?

[pearl elk]

Id eat a hedgehog

hedgedog yummy

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-mania-classic-game-sonic-eating-gif-17575456

[fathom wadi]

hotdogs shouldn't be on any diet, it's barely in a food group. It's just pigs arseholes masked with the taste of onions and condiments :/

[unreal ether]

ye but they taste good

[fathom wadi]

i know. It's a dichotomy of epic proportions.

like eating a Donner Kebab. You know it's made from sinew and eyeballs mixed in with the bone scrapings after they got the good cuts of meat. But once you sauce it up, it's nasty good

[zinc matrix]

they shure are

if prepared right lol

[unreal ether]

i mean even without the sauce doner is hella tasty

[fathom wadi]

there is a saying I remember from the 1990's. "I'd eat a pig's ass if they cook it right". I think it was Chris Rock

[unreal ether]

if you're gonna kill something might as well waste as little as possible

[pearl elk]

if hotdogs are arseholes you dont wanna know what tacos are 😛

[zinc matrix]

you can eat animals from tip till toe minus hair and feces ofc and venom

[verbal junco]

pretty sure there's no eyeballs in doner kebab but hey I don't know how it is where you live

[fathom wadi]

it's amazing how willing we are to eat things if the right spices and sauce are on it 😄

[zinc matrix]

it's just what society put in your brainzz

[deep copper]

i will day it before someone else does, you can technically eat those a few times too or once

say*

[zinc matrix]

doodoo?

or hair

[fathom wadi]

@verbal junco it differs where you get them for sure. A friend of mine worked in a kebab producing factory in the UK and the process is not good. Not good at all 😄

[deep copper]

you can eat anything atleast once

[fathom wadi]

I don't eat peas. They just never stay down

[zinc matrix]

@unreal ether thanks for the reality check yesterday, pal

[unreal ether]

no problem

[zinc matrix]

Slow and steady wins the race

[fathom wadi]

slow and steady is my favourite competition. I just razz past them on my scooter.

https://tenor.com/view/scooter-scooter-boy-bye-gif-15704461

[zinc matrix]

I mean in terms of learning game dev rather than trying to rush it

I'm hella impatient

But yeah, that's a cool scooter

[deep copper]

if you are too patient you won't even do anything, so it's fine to be a little bit

[fathom wadi]

yeah for sure. I spent the first 2 years of my game dev life studying every day, but I was learning on my own. So I skipped a few things and it bit me in the ass later on. Eventually I had to rewind and re-learn.

[deep copper]

young marc

[fathom wadi]

I wasn't young when I started. I was 33 :p

[zinc matrix]

dont know how old you are but this has been my whole life, doubt it will ever change lol

[cursive crypt]

Around it is normal to fry pig ears.

[fathom wadi]

im 46 this year.

[zinc matrix]

You're thinking of procrastination; that's not what patience is; patience is setting realistic time-frames for your goals and not trying to rush them

[deep copper]

oops, young as a dev i suppose

[cursive crypt]

Also tongues.

[zinc matrix]

Every day? Damn

[zinc matrix]

ah yeah okay

https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-i-mean-it-gif-9694318

This probably just sounds like a lame excuse to you guys, but I'm often tired after work and it's a real struggle to concentrate on learning game dev

[deep copper]

is your birthday this month or next month start?

[fathom wadi]

I was a webdev/flash developer before game dev. So I had 15 years of coding stuff under my belt. But game dev coding isn't web scripting. Flash + PHP taught me about OOP though. So that transferred over nice. Learned Unreal Script. Then came to UE4 and learned Unreal C++. I still feel like a noob though, especially when I watched that Matrix tech talk yesterday

[unreal ether]

that aint a lame excuse

[zinc matrix]

I'm also enrolling in an online college course

[unreal ether]

jobs can be tiring af

[zinc matrix]

nah i have the same

[cursive crypt]

ketchup solves everything

[unreal ether]

some people only work on their projects 1 day a week

some do more

its all YMMV

[zinc matrix]

I work from 9 to 6

[fathom wadi]

That's nothing. Since UE4 I spent almost every day, except the time I burned out for a year or so

[deep copper]

yes :P

[fathom wadi]

my birthday is in June because I have a split personality :p

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, so don't confuse procrastination with patience, I hate when people do that

[deep copper]

it's a valid excuse, nothing to be ashamed of

[zinc matrix]

or procastination with other mental stuffs

I also hate when people confuse alligators with crocodiles

[fathom wadi]

Game dev is one of the hardest things to learn because just as soon as you learned something, new things get presented and you have to learn it all again. Some people think we just sit on our arse and play games. But game dev is harder than any job I've ever done.

[zinc matrix]

There's clear differences

[zinc matrix]

I'll bet, I just hope my passion for my dream game is strong enough

[verbal junco]

I mean it's not like OOP is going away any time soon

[fathom wadi]

I remember having to teach myself calculus. I spent 3 months doing nothing but math. I'm not good at it either.

[zinc matrix]

I'm using UE for cinematics, but i realize i'm actually enjoying small problems that i have to figure out or functionalities i am curious about, rather then working very productive and efficient on my projects 😄

[fathom wadi]

I've always wanted to focus on cinematics. It's an artform

[zinc matrix]

I often have to put on my proverbial Green Lantern ring and tap into my the recesses of my willpower reserves

[fathom wadi]

Also, there is an ECS system in UE5 but it's working alongside OOP. It's not like the Unity ECS but it's an ECS nontheless

[zinc matrix]

Why did you have to teach yourself calculus?

[cursive crypt]

I doubt ppl know what is ecs

[deep copper]

so you just shifted a bit of the field

[fathom wadi]

Because a gamedev mentor gave me a task and it required it. So I figured if it's useful for game dev I should do it

[zinc matrix]

Damn

[cursive crypt]

Enhanced Creativity Suite

[fathom wadi]

I forgot most of it. Barely use it :p

[zinc matrix]

Well I'm currently using vector math for my thing, but fortunately a guy gave me the equation

[fathom wadi]

yeah the use case is there, but I stick to gameplay logic and various non-math orientated stuff. When I do the math its mostly trig

[deep copper]

i have notes on you and it isn't adding up aaa 😖 , well whatever, aprx is fine

[fathom wadi]

I'm an open book. Ask me anything you get an answer. Mostly because I have no friends and I need to talk 😦

[pearl elk]

I read a tweet from John Carmack once where he said he wishes he was better at math

[zinc matrix]

I'm dreading I might have to use more math

Then again, I dread a lot of things

[deep copper]

green, thick, lizard like,

they are the same

[cursive crypt]

Chicks is better.

[fathom wadi]

Don't dread it. The best thing about math is it's already been worked out formulaically. All you need to do is look up the formula and apply it in code. Which is easier than doing it manually. Computers are great at maths

[zinc matrix]

Yeah I guess

[pearl elk]

comes with the territory when you got a twin turbo ferrari

[cursive crypt]

Can math buy me a lambo?

[fathom wadi]

yes

[pearl elk]

meth would buy you one quicker

[cursive crypt]

No, it says -250 000$

[fathom wadi]

thats not much when you earn 150k a year tho.

[zinc matrix]

Quit rubbing it in

[fathom wadi]

given that you could work in non-gamedev areas and earn more, like stocks or banking, math is powerful at making money

[cursive crypt]

My math professor earns 15k tho.

[zinc matrix]

Fuck wall street

[fathom wadi]

im not earning 150k a year though. I'm freelance working with a new studio right now so I'm on less than I should be. But the future looks good and the people I work with are talented AF.

[zinc matrix]

Oh okay

Still, fuck wall street

[fathom wadi]

Them that can, do. Them that can't, teach. :p

[cursive crypt]

You know, it is like everyone knows the success stories. Nobody talks about the rest 99%

[fathom wadi]

yeah I've worked my ass off for decades and I'm still on the breadline.

[deep copper]

the 99% talk about the success stories

[zinc matrix]

I mean, I think most of us are taking a gamble here if we're hoping for indie game success

[cursive crypt]

Most of us will be a Nanite instance. No individuality, just triangle stats.

[zinc matrix]

Well that doesn't give me much hope ☹️

[fathom wadi]

but a nanite instance makes a huge impression on disk space :p

[zinc matrix]

Nanites? You mean like nanobots?

[cursive crypt]

Preaching about DirectStorage

[deep copper]

well, tbf, I don't think game devs actually earn a lot, do they? most of them

[zinc matrix]

Don't ask that question, I'm afraid I'll be given a disappointing answer

Nobody answer his question

[fathom wadi]

Don't let my sob story put you off. I've made bad choices. I've also got a family of 7 people to look after, so I took money where I could, when I could and made sure I could do it from home so I didn't have to move the family around at huge risk to stability. Since COVID though we all work from home so it's a lot easier on families.

[zinc matrix]

Damn, dude, 7 kids

Wrap your willy, don't be silly

[fathom wadi]

well I have 5, I take care of two as my own. But they are my kids.

[zinc matrix]

Damn

[deep copper]

the fact that they survived through all that for 46 years sounds fairly successful

[zinc matrix]

Yeah I don't think I want kids

[fathom wadi]

also I did use protection. It just didn't work. 2 of my kids I didn't use protection because I was silly though

[zinc matrix]

Too much pressure and this planet's going to shit anyway

[fathom wadi]

Well maybe your kids will save it

[zinc matrix]

Don't wanna bring kids into a world with sweltering heat, worldwide drought, and frequent floods

[deep copper]

make them carry your legacy yay

[zinc matrix]

So thanks for the incentive, Exxon

[cursive crypt]

Kids are great fulfilment.

[deep copper]

i have heard people get kids to play with lego

[fathom wadi]

heat, drought and floods have been here since the dawn of time. It shouldn't be a reason not to procreate tbh. plus if everyone thought that way, the human race would become extinct.

[zinc matrix]

Maybe, but with the cost of living and income inequality rising, as well as climate change, it's not worth it

[zinc matrix]

But they're becoming more frequent

[cursive crypt]

It is your contemporary choice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[trail wedge]

that said, there's no shortage of people.... we don't need/want everybody to have kids anyway

[zinc matrix]

So? We've fucked the planet beyond repair anyway, what's so bad about extinction?

[deep copper]

if we go extinct we won't have to go to work again!

[zinc matrix]

Exactly

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nuke-apocalypse-meme-gif-9579985

[zinc matrix]

But yeah, kids ain't worth it

[fathom wadi]

as compered to when? The weather changes over long periods. In the 1800's we had a mini ice age. In 1976 we had a heat wave, in the 90's it cooled off again. Now it's fluctuating position globally due to localised pollution, man made issues, polar flipping and generally we live on a giant rock floating through space that has gravitational effects changing the weather constantly. I don't fear it. I fear the fearmongers.

[deep copper]

the idea of taking care of someone when you can't handle yourself is a bad one, perhaps when you get self sufficient, adopt someone big enough idk

[zinc matrix]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/climate.nasa.gov/evidence.amp

Climate change is real

[fathom wadi]

I never said it wasn't

[zinc matrix]

And it's becoming more frequent the more CO2 we pump out

[fathom wadi]

I just don't fear it because the climate changes all the time. Before we got here, after we go.

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, but we're accelerating it more than usual

[deep copper]

we are kinda like bacteria on a rock, it doesn't matter if we stay or go actually

[fathom wadi]

sure to some degree. But the ecosystem is a balancing act. It will adjust

[zinc matrix]

Nah, dude

If that were the case, we wouldn't have so many climate refugees

We're damaging the ozone layer faster than it can replenish

[fathom wadi]

thats not true

[night grove]

Mankind does tend to think itself more significant than is true in many cases

[verbal junco]

isn't this the end goal anyway

[fathom wadi]

the ozone layer repairs itself. This has been proven with the studies after Chloro-flouro-carbons were reduced drastically

also Ayers Rock is a self-repairing ozone system in Australia. Check that out. It cycles it's hole.

[zinc matrix]

https://youtu.be/Pdgk3NGvdAA

[fathom wadi]

oh I must repeat. Im not saying climate change isn't real. But it's not the end of the world.

[zinc matrix]

Lol, it literally is

But whatever

[fathom wadi]

no its not

[cursive crypt]

end of the world... ruuuun

[verbal junco]

just the end of human existence

the world goes on

[cursive crypt]

Enter the metaverse

[fathom wadi]

if you think the world will end because we spew a bit of carbon into the stratosphere then you have watched too many fearmongers.

[zinc matrix]

I'll admit, as much of a sniveling douchebag Musk is, I admire his affinity for promoting clean energy

Even though he exploits African slaves to mine for cobalt

[fathom wadi]

Volcanos spew 70% of the world's carbon into the atmosphere every year. We should ban them.

[cursive crypt]

I like my steak jarred tho

[verbal junco]

volcanos aren't active every year

[zinc matrix]

But fat Atheist neckbeard is funny

[fathom wadi]

here is a funny thought. If climate change means the world will heat up to un-liveable temperatures, causing humanity to die out within 100 years, then perhaps we don't deserve the planet anyway and it's time we went. Mother Earth will sustain and produce Humans 2.0. They will all eat Tofu and sing Dido songs. 😄

[zinc matrix]

I'd rather have Terminator be a reality

Then I'll get to rub it in the faces of you programmer eggheads that you fucked up

[verbal junco]

I'm pretty sure human+ is already on the way. not everyone will die, just those least suitable

but I like the heat 😎

[fathom wadi]

I heard a quality talk by Jordan Peterson on climate change where he stated that rather than we tax and create industries dedicated to clean energy, we should in fact be using fossil fuels to give cheaper fuel to poor people. As the statistics state that the turnaround will cause the opposite effect. He wasn't just theorising either. He worked with the UN on climate change for years and all the studies backed up that point.

[verbal junco]

jordan peterson isn't exactly a scholar on the matter

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

[fathom wadi]

yes he is

he literally is.

[night grove]

He's a legend

[zinc matrix]

Jordan Peterson? Don't you mean Kermit the Frog?

[fathom wadi]

People just think of him as some guy who talks on youtube about gender politics, but he's literally a UN climate change expert.

[verbal junco]

jordan peterson a legend? yikes okay

[deep copper]

i think it depends on what the "world", means, from the solar system point of view it means nothing, whatever happens to earth

[zinc matrix]

Whatever

Gorilla Grodd was right

[deep copper]

even if earth explodes and disappears,

[zinc matrix]

Humans are a self-destructive race taking the planet down with them

[verbal junco]

so no, not at all a climate change expert

[night grove]

Legend doesn't necessarily mean good

[zinc matrix]

I can't tell the difference

[fathom wadi]

funny but people can do more than one thing.

and yes he is. He literally worked at the UN on climate change

[deep copper]

again, depends on what you consider as planet going down ig? the planet with rocks etc would probably stay, i think you are worried about other lifeforms being unable to survive as well or something

[zinc matrix]

Semantics

Whatever

Just being a doomer again

[verbal junco]

I'll need you to back that up with actual proof

[deep copper]

sorry but I don't understand difficult words ;^^

[fathom wadi]

you could do a simple google yourself.

[deep copper]

that's like some high level "no u"

[verbal junco]

you're claiming something and then asking the person who's asking you for the burden of proof to google.

[zinc matrix]

You guys ever wish you could smell Wario's farts?

[verbal junco]

now that's just arguing in bad faith

[fathom wadi]

I dont like being someone's googlebot. I have no reason to lie to you. It's of no benefit to me. And I'm not arguing, you are.

[verbal junco]

do the work or stop talking out of your behind

[fathom wadi]

ahh that's where its at then. You dont want to look it up, so you insult me. Good internet tactics

[zinc matrix]

@Marc_Rogerson @brother 1 affectionateUser answer

[verbal junco]

no I want you to stand by what you're saying

if you can't then don't say it

[zinc matrix]

Idk, my brain's on empty right now

[fathom wadi]

now fuck off

[deep copper]

idk what that is but i am considering yours

[verbal junco]

okay is there more to this? because apart from that tweet I see nothing in his history mentioning this

[fathom wadi]

no im done. You have no skills in debating and turn to burden of proof and insults. You can do your own studies.

i got work to do anyway

[verbal junco]

Climate change
Peterson doubts the scientific consensus on climate change,[109][184] saying he is "very skeptical of the models that are used to predict climate change",[185] and that "you can't trust the data because too much ideology is involved".[184][186] Appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience in 2022, Peterson stated that "there is no such thing as climate" and questioned the accuracy of climate modeling. Climate scientists accused Peterson of being "stunningly ignorant" and of confusing weather forecasting with climate modeling.[90][187][188][189] In response to various criticism Peterson cited climate-skeptic Fred Singer as a source.[190]

[deep copper]

..is it?

[pearl elk]

guys this is lounge, there really is no burden of proof in casual conversation

[fathom wadi]

sorry for the F.O @verbal junco but that annoyed me more than it should have. Peace.

[verbal junco]

straight from the wiki here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

[deep copper]

everyday in #lounge

[verbal junco]

lmao. if you're getting upset for being questioned for what you're talking about then that's something you need to work on.

[fathom wadi]

you really want to continue to wind me up?

[verbal junco]

46 years old and this behavior? I'd maybe expect it from someone 25 years younger

[zinc matrix]

Yeah it is, also I'm surprised you don't know who Wario is, he's not really obscure

[cursive crypt]

Too late, the battle for climate change and whether to have kids or not is in its heat.

[pearl elk]

from my end it looks like Marc is winding himself up

[fathom wadi]

Feel free to join my ignore list. You are pathetic

[cursive crypt]

To be frank, they kinda ganging on him up too.

[deep copper]

a place to take your stress out ig, #lounge

[fathom wadi]

im gonna take my stress out on my dedicated server code. have fun

[verbal junco]

if you can't handle having your beliefs questioned, then you really need to take a long look at yourself and reflect over that

[zinc matrix]

Bruh, I feel bad

[cursive crypt]

Can't extinguish fire with gasoline.

[zinc matrix]

I shouldn't have brought up climate change

[pearl elk]

beliefs are just that, just let people be tbfh

[deep copper]

for warlio?

ah

[zinc matrix]

No

[pearl elk]

or do you all want to provide me proof for all your believes

answer...

[cursive crypt]

now

or later

[verbal junco]

I don't know what fire you're talking about. I see no fire here, just someone who is mad their authority got questioned

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-laughter-steve-carell-gif-24215920

[zinc matrix]

So anyway

[deep copper]

after dealing with so many meetings i can understand why this heats you up

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-going-on-wtf-is-gif-14892542

[deep copper]

but relax now, sit back and kick or whatever was lounge moto

[zinc matrix]

@pearl elk forgive me if you've already answered this, but you think the Mandarin is an outdated yellow peril stereotype, right?

[deep copper]

climate is in heat

[pearl elk]

I think Superman supports global warming cuz he gets more power from less ozone

[zinc matrix]

Look, let's drop climate change, it's depressing me now and I regret bringing it up

[zinc matrix]

Lol, no

That's probably something Lex thinks though

[pearl elk]

lol damn city sample died first go

amdxc64 fail

[zinc matrix]

You gonna answer my question?

[deep copper]

i... never thought about that

[zinc matrix]

He can just fly out of orbit to absorb more sunlight

So nah, he doesn't support global warming

[deep copper]

does he sunbathe?

[zinc matrix]

I think there are some comics where he rebuilds the polar ice caps with his freeze breath

[deep copper]

on beach etc

[zinc matrix]

He's literally solar-powered; his body is a hyper-efficient solar battery

[deep copper]

that's probably a good way to make children absorb more sun

[zinc matrix]

Kryptonite weakens him by expelling the solar energy from his body

[zinc matrix]

Idk if it's that, but at least it's clean energy

Too bad actual solar panels are hella weak

[deep copper]

they tried 🌟

[zinc matrix]

Anyway, yeah

I can see the controversy around the Mandarin

Probably explains why the MCU butchered him

[deep copper]

what was mandarin again?

[zinc matrix]

Still he's a great foil to Iron Man

[zinc matrix]

Iron Man's archenemy

[deep copper]

ah the china guy

i remember now

[zinc matrix]

Yikes, sounds kinda racist when you put it like that

[deep copper]

yikes yikes sorry but i can't find other words!

stones in hand?

is that any better?

[zinc matrix]

Nah, you're thinking of Thanos, but the Mandarin has 10 rings of power with different abilities

[deep copper]

i have no idea

[deep copper]

ah, close enough, rings ,rocks same thing

[foggy path]

Hah

Alex Chiu has immortality rings

[zinc matrix]

I should read more Iron Man

[deep copper]

i really hope that's another name for madanrn

mandarin*

[zinc matrix]

Who's that?

[foggy path]

Alex Chiu is an old internet legend

Whang did a few videos about him I think

[zinc matrix]

Actually, the Mandarin's real name is never revealed, but he's gone by different monikers

[zinc matrix]

Hah, whang

Like penis

[deep copper]

that's weird

i thought he was some martial art guy

aren't those famous with their names?

and have those, .. uh children

[foggy path]

I think it's his actual last name lol

[zinc matrix]

He knows martial arts, yes

[foggy path]

Justin Whang

[deep copper]

disciple *

[zinc matrix]

Also the Mandarin's rings were given to him by a shapeshifting alien dragon https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fin_Fang_Foom_(Earth-616)

[deep copper]

is this another Richard reference

[zinc matrix]

Idk

[deep copper]

alligator...

[zinc matrix]

Sure, why not?

[deep copper]

it's green, thick, lizard like

the fish like qualities are weird but crocodiles do live in water

[zinc matrix]

There's also a noteworthy comic where the Mandarin tries to use Fin Fang Foom to take over China before Foom turns on him and he has to reluctantly team up with Iron Man

[deep copper]

awww

that's sweet

anti hero stuff,

[zinc matrix]

Was just a temporary truce though

[deep copper]

still, they worked together, got to coordinate

and, know each other better

have some snacks

ig

[zinc matrix]

Still

Can't trust those alien dragons

[deep copper]

does iron man offer snacks to people? 🤔 he is rich right

[zinc matrix]

I don't think so

He does have a filter for his excrements in his suit though

Essentially a glorified diaper

[deep copper]

AH

[deep copper]

this

iron man has that

[zinc matrix]

I imagine he brings snacks for himself though, must get hungry fighting all those terrorists and warlords

[deep copper]

isn't he powered from a battery?

does he still eat?

[zinc matrix]

Yes, the Arc reactor

[zinc matrix]

Iron Man isn't a robot, he's a man in a robotic suit

But the suit is powered by a hyper-efficient nuclear reactor the size of a hockey puck, yes

[deep copper]

oo

[zinc matrix]

Yet somehow Tony doesn't cook alive inside the suit

Tony Stark is his name fyi

[deep copper]

he had thermal .. fixing stuff right? ac heater

[zinc matrix]

Probably

[deep copper]

i remember xD

"Mr stark I don't feel good "

[zinc matrix]

Sad scene, yeah

[deep copper]

i only saw the memes ...

[zinc matrix]

Right

But yeah, Iron Man's cool

[deep copper]

more like room temperature

[zinc matrix]

Whatever

[deep copper]

i recall the first movie had him defeat the bad guy by flying up and freezing him

because, cold up there

[zinc matrix]

Yes, Iron Monger

I think Iron Man is the only Marvel hero where his archenemy doesn't appear in his respective first movie

Mandarin doesn't show up till much later in the MCU

But for the other heroes, it checks out

Spider-man has Green Goblin
Daredevil has Kingpin
Dr. Strange has Dormammu
Thor has Loki
Hulk has Abomination and General Ross
F4 has Dr. Doom
Captain Marvel has Skrulls
Captain America has Red Skull
Guardians of the Galaxy have Thanos

Etc

[deep copper]

what about that captain

red blue

america

ah ic

[zinc matrix]

Red Skull is his archenemy and shows up in the first movie, yeah

So Iron Man is the only one without his respective nemesis showing up in his first movie

Damn

[deep copper]

poor guy

[zinc matrix]

Plus it was one of the Mandarin's terrorist groups that captured Tony in the cave in the first place, so it's pretty personal

[deep copper]

ohhhh

i already forgot why he got captured

i thought that was because he a good scientist

[zinc matrix]

The terrorists held him hostage and threatened to kill him unless he made weapons for them

Tony tricked them and built his first suit to escape instead

[zinc matrix]

Engineer, but yeah

[deep copper]

if i recal.. the reactor thing was already attached to him when he gained consciousness right? someone else made it?

[zinc matrix]

Nah, he built it himself, but Yinsen helped him

[deep copper]

¿ A terrorist ?

[zinc matrix]

No, Yinsen was a traitor to the terrorists and was kept prisoner with Tony

[deep copper]

ah, inmates

[zinc matrix]

Yinsen decided to help Tony escape, but sacrificed himself doing so

Distracted the guards to buy Tony more time to power up the suit

But yeah, I still hate how Hollywood butchered Mandarin

I mean I get why

They don't wanna risk upsetting daddy China

But still, this is Iron Man's nemesis

Exceptions should be made

Plus it's ironic (excuse the pun) Mandarin indirectly created his worst enemy

[deep copper]

what did they do? i think i recall you telling what they did but i don't remember xD

[zinc matrix]

The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 was a fake and they didn't introduce the real Mandarin until after Iron Man died in Endgame, so they never got a true fight

[deep copper]

what, why fake?

[zinc matrix]

I forget the reason

Been a while since I watched the movie

[mossy nexus]

an actor my dear, a stage actor

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, that asshole

I remember being disappointed when it came out

[mossy nexus]

Ironically a complete waste of an actors skill set. He's a damn good actor.

irl

[zinc matrix]

Before watching: "Finally! We get to see Iron Man fight his arch nemesis: the Mandarin!"
After watching: "FUCK YOU, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!"

[deep copper]

i would make a ue actor joke but i don't know any

[zinc matrix]

Yeah

[deep copper]

yuck

i had seen iron 3 btw

the exploding people right?

[mossy nexus]

Accessed None trying to read actor joke.

[zinc matrix]

Eh, you're not missing much; there's also a stupid scene where the suit gets broken by an oncoming truck... I mean we saw Iron Man survive a nuke point blank in a previous movie and now you're telling me he can't survive getting hit by a truck? Might as well call him Lego Man

[mossy nexus]

That was no ordinary truck.... it was a transformer!

[zinc matrix]

Even then, I don't buy it

Horrible lazy writing

[mossy nexus]

Made out of unobtainiumrareshit

yeah all of the marvel films tend to go that way - lazy ass CGI fest with no real story or character development

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, it's pretty bad

Which sucks cuz the first 2 were good

[mossy nexus]

Oo that's very generous of you

I'd say average at best 😄

[zinc matrix]

Okay well the first one was, at least

@mossy nexus still even if you're not a comic guy, don't let the movie warp your perception of the Mandarin; he's an awesome villain

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/31ruoj/respect_the_mandarin/&ved=2ahUKEwidk6bog4D3AhXjdN8KHQXzBeUQjjh6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw3AOgBl5ACnVTe-UCHJsDJd

He's close to Dr. Doom's league

So that's saying something

[deep copper]

that definitely felt weird, i think their excuse was it was a prototype

[deep copper]

no time for char dev in recent ones specially

[deep copper]

so long 😓 , well it's for moa so, goodluck moa! go moa go! you can read it!

@ MOA.d#6266

[deep copper]

this person

[slow stump]

Hi everyone,

We discussed multiple times here the vague definitions of the "Metaverse" concept, so I wrote an article about it to clarify the different notions being thrown around - Metaverse, Web3, Web3.0

"Defining the Metaverse and Web3: a few clarifications": https://medium.com/@alvaro_lato/defining-the-metaverse-and-web3-a-few-clarifications-1ca838459281

Let me know your thoughts!

[deep copper]

adsmeads

poor mead :(

[median wraith]

wait we did ?

[slow stump]

Ok it might have been a little more like "the metaverse is bullshit" but you get the idea

Just trying to say that politely

[deep copper]

i mean, we can now

[median wraith]

Wait you said what I do is a bullshit now ?

[deep copper]

you do metaverse?

i thought you were a twitter kinda guy

[median wraith]

Like Elon Musk

[deep copper]

Helon Husk

Heve Vedy

hmmmm I can't find names that fit that

🫂 dw

[shy scarab]

Hey do you guys have any idea on a small project i can do with c++

[zinc matrix]

slot machine

[shy scarab]

I want to practice but i cant think of anything

[zinc matrix]

But that was my fisrt C+ project in school

[shy scarab]

Lmao

[shy scarab]

Cool

I dont know graphics yet

Anf gui

Need to learn that too

Fun

[zinc matrix]

yeah 😄

[shy scarab]

Lol

[deep copper]

with ue or without ue?

[shy scarab]

Without

I still want to get realy famillier wirh nornal c++

[deep copper]

i don't use c++ but while we wait for someone, what all have you thought of doing so far?

[celest musk]

my first c game was snake with console output

[shy scarab]

Like a calculator but then i remembered i dont know gui lmao

[zinc matrix]

wow way more fun

[celest musk]

but kinda easy to do honestly

you don't learn that much c with that 😄

[shy scarab]

I dont have any ideas

[celest musk]

you can use 3rd party frameworks to make gui stuff, stuff fltk etc.

[deep copper]

so you need some small project with c++, no ue, that can be done in asci art/text ,hmmm

[shy scarab]

Something with the console

[shy scarab]

I dont need ofc but i want to practice

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/sneks-the-sneks-solsneks-snek-snek-nft-gif-23488374

or make a system tool for something

on a 2nd thought, maybe don't

[shy scarab]

Whats a system tool.....

[celest musk]

before you erase your harddisk by accident 😄

[shy scarab]

Ohh sounds lots of fun

Maybe ill make like a quiz

With riddles or something

That could be cool

[celest musk]

or make that wordle thing game

just needs a dictionary and you can use console output

[shy scarab]

Also an idea yea

But its kinda difficult no?

[celest musk]

kinda easy actually

but depends, i'm biased

[deep copper]

https://www.dunebook.com/c-project-ideas-for-beginners maybe take a look, though idk if these are anything fun

[shy scarab]

Prpject number 6: "railway reservation"

LMAO

[deep copper]

that will probably need an understanding of the reservation system first lol

[shy scarab]

Yep

I think a quiz game is good

[deep copper]

definitely sounds good

[shy scarab]

Yup

Like with a score

[deep copper]

what type of quiz are you thinking of?

[celest musk]

or get a raspberrypi/Arduino + some sensors

[shy scarab]

And after you end depending on the score you get it reveals your personality

Lmao

[celest musk]

way more fun to learn when interacting with the environment

[deep copper]

modify that quiz with this, boom, it now senses your personality

[shy scarab]

Loll

[celest musk]

when reading boom i thought you want an explosion when you loose the quiz

but well, that sounds like some saw stuff

[deep copper]

but yes, this sounds very interesting and you can try asking other people to answer them lol

[shy scarab]

Yea

Ight thanksssss

Ima try to make it

[deep copper]

"your personality is now dead"

goodluck buddy! have fun!!

🍻

[shy scarab]

Im going to make all the personalitys at the end make you feel like a stupid person

Every ending

[celest musk]

we know you succeeded when you don't come back 😄

[shy scarab]

LMAO

[deep copper]

make one for yourself so you seem smart

[shy scarab]

Tnx!

[shy scarab]

Yuh

[timber viper]

@zinc matrix which one of u is real

[deep copper]

65 one

0019 has 0 messages

[celest musk]

how do you know that you pinged the real one?

[zinc matrix]

Holy moly, i just discovered BSP geometry lol

[timber viper]

I don't

[deep copper]

ping both to be safe

i am curious if the other replies

i wonder if it's a bot waiting for input

i can probably pspsps ping the real lorash then act like i wanted to ping the other 🤤

[timber viper]

Other one does not appear

Only our cat appears

[deep copper]

the trick is, to first search in search of discord, then it appears when @ ting

[timber viper]

Nope, doesnt work

@zinc matrix hi, u impostor

[deep copper]

yes! gj

[quasi mantle]

This is like a real Mr. Krabs and the robot Mr. Krabs

[deep copper]

lorash says they don't know the fake one, so,... perhaps we can keep pinging that account?

[celest musk]

@zinc matrix

hi

[deep copper]

the odd part is, they never sent anything

[celest musk]

sorry, wasn't even supposed to send that...

[deep copper]

i wonder how old that account is, probably recent since i never saw it before

[celest musk]

but someone saying "perhaps we can keep pinging that account?" before makes it somewhat acceptable 😄

[deep copper]

oi don't blame me i meant the fake lory

ash*

maybe lorash created that to divert some pings but the attempt failed 🤔

so that you dont avoid bans / strikes?

but then you won't get brand value

"lorash" has brand value

... ohh

that makes a lot more sense yes

utilizing the brand value

well i would like to accept that dm even if it's fake <3

though i am certain they wouldn't even target me...

lorash giving free nitro is the last thing i can imagine lol

in dms

either way, shouldn't we tell the mods?

[celest musk]

but i got free nitro from him

wait...

[deep copper]

makes me jealous

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[primal summit]

I never got the point of those free nitro scams

sure, you take an account, but for what end game

[foggy path]

Botnets, crypto mining, who knows

[deep copper]

it's surely profitable, which is why it exists

"my goals are beyond your understanding" or something

[zinc matrix]

You guys got any methods to discipline and/or force yourself to work on you game or at least learn the engine daily?

Or is that a bad way to approach it?

[regal pecan]

Pull out your ethernet cable and lock your door

[deep copper]

working daily on anything is the BEST way possible

[primal summit]

no cookie if no workie

[zinc matrix]

Looking for serious answers

[deep copper]

not 24/7 tho, just few hours are enough too

[zinc matrix]

Alright

Gonna need a nap when I get home though

[deep copper]

can you narrow down the distractions you have?

[zinc matrix]

I guess

I mean oftentimes I'm just too tired when I get home from work

Or I talk myself out of it

[deep copper]

it's different for everyone, you will have to find your reward/incentive and distractions