and theres also a spinoff Fear the Elden Ring
#lounge
pearl elk
cursive crypt
This starts to sound like cooking recipe.
pearl elk
soon to be NFTs for the concept art around the whole universe
tbh though Im just salty because I suck at all FromSoftware games
cursive crypt
I think most nfts are still in the pixel era.
Ah... I don't see a problem. Main thing I don't like there is also the gameplay.
pearl elk
I dont have time to read the play guides just to make em playable ๐
cursive crypt
I all see see is a small dude poking with a stick mountains.
pearl elk
isnt that just Zelda
cursive crypt
Huh... there is more green there I think ๐ค
pearl elk
ahh so Zelda with a desaturation filter
cursive crypt
Yeah, but also maybe not so challenging mashing of buttons. I dunno really. Last Zelda I played was 240x360 or so.
It was a nice game.
pearl elk
4:3 we meet again
cursive crypt
Curved corners too.
pearl elk
real monitors have curves
cursive crypt
I remember playing with my bro, hot seat. Our eyes were crying, but we persisted.
Maybe we got and a face tan, back then.
pearl elk
woo how did I miss this email from AlterMesh, Ive been wanting to try this and Blender GeoNodes
cursive crypt
People post cool stuff with them. What they do?
cursive crypt
I mean, I know, but specifically that AlterMesh thingie.
pearl elk
it allows you to use Blender GeoNodes in UE4/5
cursive crypt
live link ๐ค
pearl elk
it must hook into the existing Blender interop and extend it to work with it
pearl elk
Ive only got personal version of AlterMesh so I cant tell you exactly how it works under the hood. I was under the assumption that GeoNode support wasnt part of the LiveLink since its a relatively new feature
Im still not sure about a few things though, whether its worth passing geo from Blender or trying to generate it in UE because I need to pass it to the Nanite preprocessor
cursive crypt
At some point, you may need to freeze that generation. I don't think Nanite can update on the fly, yet ๐ค
I dunno really. With some coding - yeah.
pearl elk
well its not meant to happen on the fly, I need to preprocess it in the editor to save on memory. I only want to generate a fixed set of meshes rather than all unique meshes and batch them together as a single mesh
cursive crypt
If you can make a static mesh out of that... input, you prolly can just check a Nanite box.
pearl elk
yeah maybe I can use acouple of layers of generation, use Blender to generate the mesh set then use UE for placement
Id prefer to loop it through Jones but I dont think thats viable, to pass the mesh back to blender after its been nanited
now if UE5 had its own GeoNodes, I dunno maybe a certain bored developer might give it a go based on their experience with Blender ๐
cursive crypt
It is a procedural mesh, no?
pearl elk
yeah thats the idea to try to enhance artist tools through the use of more procedural techniques
ideally I dont want anyone making meshes ๐
we want those artists crafting content instead
cursive crypt
I wouldn't mind enslaving few artists tho ๐ค
pearl elk
I wouldnt mind enslaving a few thousand artists
ancient ingot
@cursive crypt kiss me
ancient ingot
๐ฎ
cursive crypt
Wut? It is a nice lady. With a gun.
quasi mantle
Barely a recoil...
deep copper
she has a wobbly grip
ancient ingot
๐ญ why does DCSWorld need so much space
quasi mantle
she has a wobbly grip
With that wobbly grip, surely the recoil would be huge enough to fling her arm.
pearl elk
its not wobbly grip shes charging the elemental ability
cursive crypt
Mana cost: 10 pts
fluid bloom
With that wobbly grip, surely the recoil would be huge enough to fling her arm.
the gun seems pretty front heavy so it compensates for the recoil a bit
but yeah your wrist would twist upwards a bit when shooting a pistol
or a revolver in this case
knotty skiff
NOOWYAYAYYY
cursive crypt
Maybe we all miss the fact that the bullet is self-accelerating. It starts from convenient snail speed and then approaches lighting speeds.
quasi mantle
NOOWYAYAYYY
HL Alyx?
quasi mantle
Those ammo crates looked similar to HL2's
unreal ether
toidI
(Why are you captioning the pictures with "Idiot")
Why would you insult the poor toilet like that
knotty skiff
Cuz toilets clogged!!!
pearl elk
wow so you can even shit in VR now
knotty skiff
OHSHIT
knotty skiff
I LOVE TOITLERS NOW!!
cursive crypt
wow so you can even shit in VR now
Can you? Many people have constipation actually. Envisioning something happening can be beneficial.
pearl elk
let the cake flow through you
ancient ingot
๐คฎ
timber viper
If Ubisoft made Elden Ring:
pearl elk
Actually more recent Ubisoft games have options to hide UI elements
timber viper
If EA made Elden Ring:
pearl elk
sometimes its nice to have the option to bring up controls on screen after you havent played for ages
but aye, its Elden Ring, gitgud or git off the net
Ubisofts real issue is their graphical downgrades
one could even argue that the e3 demo has the superior UX
I think the core difference is people know what they are getting into when they buy FromSoftware
verbal junco
If Ubisoft made Elden Ring:
looks about right
timber viper
Ikr
pearl elk
Im just over open world games in general tbh
foggy path
My Summer Car best open world game
(also King of Tapes if it ever releases, and with that particular featureset which we currently pushed to the side to reduce the already too big scope lol)
cursive crypt
My summer car? That sounds... lazy play.
Can you drive Tesla? Just set the GPS location and chill while the game plays itself.
knotty skiff
Average Daily Life of an Cincinnati/Baltimore Amazon Worker
foggy path
Can you drive Tesla? Just set the GPS location and chill while the game plays it...
MSC is not a game about dream cars. It's a harsh realism game about cars you can actually afford, such as a half-broken unwanted shitbox from the 70s
(and also about drinking beer and eating sausage)
cursive crypt
Mmm... sausages.
foggy path
the developer said drinking beer was the first feature he implemented besides building the engine lol
cursive crypt
lol
timber viper
I've been trying to get used to R1der light theme since yesterday and now I'm struggling to understand how other are able to get used to this
It's not even readable
cursive crypt
Barely an inconvenience.
Not using Rider, but say VS/Vim etc... I spend a good amount of hours to make, what I call, an ergonomic color scheme.
Nowadays code looks like the modern PCs, all flash, no substance.
Or okay, varying substance.
foggy path
Yeah the contrast on that light scheme is not great ๐ค
I've used VS with the default light scheme and it's fine there
I'm using Solarized on my linux vm's and terminals which is a pretty nice color scheme I think
cursive crypt
Show? Wasn't that some yellowish thingie?
foggy path
foggy path
I dunno it looks good to me ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cursive crypt
Hmm... well, in fact. there is. Text is uniform.
Yeah, that what is most important - feeling it does not tires you.
foggy path
Normally it looks like this because I use vim's listchars option lol
but I tend to turn it off for screenshots because it probably looks really strange for people who aren't used to it
broken sigil
The white theme looks like it would permanently burn into my eyes
cursive crypt
White is fine when it matches your enviro.
broken sigil
My room is completely dark usually, no lights on or anything when I work on my pc so just opening the white Google's page burns my soul
verbal junco
MSC is not a game about dream cars. It's a harsh realism game about cars you can...
did you make it?
I would have pegged you for the creator
foggy path
How so? lol
verbal junco
finnish person with a vision
foggy path
haha
verbal junco
it seems a very finnish game
foggy path
Yeah it really is extremely finnish
I'm a big fan of it but unfortunately I do not have such genius vision as Johannes Rojola
cursive crypt
Now that's modern ECO theme.
foggy path
and the persistence to execute, I think he's worked on that title for like 10 years
verbal junco
he found out how to simulate a summer car during finland's most prominent season - double winter
foggy path
The next title he's working on is... My Winter Car
which is basically a sequel to MSC, following up the story and events in the same area
verbal junco
well at least there's that
broken sigil
Speaking of somewhat relaxing games to play... I just recently discovered what a masterpiece FAR: Lone Sails is
They are coming out with a sequel I think, might already be out
quasi mantle
Man
cursive crypt
Speaking of somewhat relaxing games to play... I just recently discovered what a...
You sail in open sea?
broken sigil
That feels like a reference to their new game ๐
verbal junco
I dunno, I found it quite lacking. an interesting concept but not entirely well executed
broken sigil
Lol
verbal junco
plus generally I don't expect people's first game to be a masterpiece
broken sigil
I liked it a lot, thought it was really good
foggy path
I made a bunch of janky javascript based games so I'm also allowed to ship a masterpiece
verbal junco
minmaxing the game dev game
foggy path
Uncaught TypeError: NaN is not a function
cursive crypt
Summoning magic ^
cursive crypt
Or maybe flying, like a helicopter do.
median wraith
whats is that ?
foggy path
@zinc matrix but can you say this? 
median wraith
actually how you add the games to the uka bunddle ?
foggy path
I blame my friend who talked about it to rojola lol
broken sigil
I liked it a lot, thought it was really good
My list of top favourite games would look something like: Jack and Dexter series, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer wilds, Arise, Far, Jedi fallen order and would probably put oxenfree in there too
Probably the reason why I like Far that much
cursive crypt
I know one of these. Outer wilds. The survival thingie, right?
red pewter
If you liked Jedi Fallen order play Sekiro
timber viper
My list of top favourite games would look something like: Jack and Dexter series...
Outer wilds
I played Outer Wilds after you mentioned here, turns out wasnt my type of a game
red pewter
I liked it but man it's diet Pepsi compared to the real deal
quasi mantle
Or even Elden Ring
broken sigil
I know one of these. Outer wilds. The survival thingie, right?
The space thingy, not Outer Worlds
I think the devs joked about the names being so similar and confusing lol
red pewter
Outer Wilds has been around much longer too
broken sigil
If you liked Jedi Fallen order play Sekiro
Oh I'll give it a shot, I've been eyeing it for a while
cursive crypt
https://twitter.com/necrosofty/status/1500994927378923521
Step one: Have a game.
median wraith
I do
red pewter
Be warned: difficult game even by from standards
cursive crypt
Hev, email them?
broken sigil
Be warned: difficult game even by from standards
That makes me want to play it even more lol
cursive crypt
Masos... DS fans.
Can't people just sit and chat with all these monsters. Share a drink.
Thousand games tho... This will break the Windows Start Menu.
red pewter
A game key site had a purchase option for random game keys
foggy path
There's a few good titles in that bundle, and a ton I've never heard of
quasi mantle
Can't people just sit and chat with all these monsters. Share a drink.
And you get yourself Shin Megami Tensei
foggy path
My games backlog is already probably close to 100 games so I don't really know if I want 1000 more
cursive crypt
Who? Googles...
foggy path
so that bundle has a problem of too fucking much lol
cursive crypt
A game key site had a purchase option for random game keys
What about some gacha, pay X, get a random game.
quasi mantle
One thing that gacha really give "fuck you" on is the intent of speedrunning
cursive crypt
Yeah, how you can obtain that spring time orange-gold super-duper rare item otherwise? And the bazillion others.
Like that Gacha Impact: random hero generator
๐ค
For fans of electronic music.
median wraith
itch just fall apart
knotty skiff
timber viper
Anyone heard from Aquanox lately?
deep copper
what's that?
timber viper
An user who roams around #cpp but they live in Ukraine and last message is 3 days ago
Hopefully they are safe ๐คทโโ๏ธ
deep copper
ah i think i have seen them in #lounge once
i heard ukr is evacuating rn
idk though
foggy path
Depends largely where in ukraine you are. It seems difficult and potentially lethal to attempt to evacuate from certain places in western parts of the country
There's comments about how the supposed cease fires have not been respected by the russians, and how the supposed paths to evacuate safely through for civilians were mined..
But honestly who knows what is true at this point
deep copper
yeah, the news said putin agreed to that, but it's too hard to tell exactly how well both of the countries are handling it
foggy path
Oh yeah, and at least one russian POW apparently said they were ordered to fire on civilians who tried to escape from kharkov
deep copper
because tbf the ukr citizens also aren't happy with the invasion, i am certain they won't just leave easily
who is nk and syria supporting?
foggy path
Yeah I mean it's obvious the russians are not exactly being nice guys, but there's false information about things from both sides, and none of the information I said has been corroborated by any official sources
timber viper
Hey dont forget Cuba
deep copper
for some reason it sounds expected
timber viper
Huh, interesting
foggy path
my coworker who was in kharkiv said a couple days ago they were leaving kharkiv by car to drive west, not sure what's happened then as there's been no updates... hopefully they're on the road with no connectivity
cursive crypt
I have still tons of colleagues in Kiev and around :/
deep copper
tbh i haven't heard from any ukr person recently
foggy path
there's a ukrainian user on another discord who was online yesterday, but not sure where they are located in the country
deep copper
i wonder if i should ping the one I know ๐ค
but it's in a server doing something absolutely different rn
the chat gets derailed
timber viper
A lot of people I met who are from western/northern Europe going to border today to join Ukr army
unborn lotus
I think there's a lot of cases of civilians cars being shelled or fired on, sounds very dangerous to just leave instead of using those corridors
deep copper
i mean, it's invasion, they won't let passerbys just, pass
i try to avoid dms but i guess this calls for it
o, their account is idle
the yellow dot
they were from lviv i think
foggy path
the problem with the so-called humanitarian corridors is that there are a lot of talk about how russians are using them to attack so it's not exactly safe to use them either :P
deep copper
not sure which part that is
cursive crypt
War is cool only in games.
deep copper
lviv is in west side, and i think west was the one least affected back then
deep copper
๐
cursive crypt
Been there several years ago. Guys hate Putin.
They have nice beer btw.
Also the most deadly alcohol I ever tried in my life was from there.
I think I got drunk with three sips from it ๐ค
timber viper
Recommend me a beer brand
cursive crypt
From there? We went into a beer manifacturer who was in the center, next to the tower.
timber viper
No from anywhere
ancient ingot
Brains S.A
cursive crypt
ooh... oof... that calls for war
timber viper
๐
cursive crypt
I think most beers are cool.
timber viper
You cant find most of the beer brands in Turkey but I found Heineken recently
Cant wait to taste it
My new hobby is beer tasting now
ancient ingot
cursive crypt
Oh.. you don't have Heineken? These are kinda imported on many places in EU
From these mass beers, I like Budwiser.
timber viper
Oh.. you don't have Heineken? These are kinda imported on many places in EU
I guess we have them in major cities but I'm a little bit away from them
verbal junco
No from anywhere
cursive crypt
If you are in Turkey tho... how is the law wrt to alcohol actually? ๐ค
verbal junco
wait what got ninja'd?!
timber viper
If you are in Turkey tho... how is the law wrt to alcohol actually? ๐ค
Our president be like "I dont like alcohol so I'll just tax it" -- rest it just same as how its in EU
timber viper
wait what got ninja'd?!
I was just about to @ you and ask your opinion but you wrote first
cursive crypt
Aah, I see. Maybe the gambling is banned.
verbal junco
https://www.mahrs.de/beer/?lang=en
this is my favorite german brewery
timber viper
Aah, I see. Maybe the gambling is banned.
iirc yes, I'm not into gambling so I dont know much about it
timber viper
this is my favorite german brewery
It has aromas ๐
cursive crypt
nah, not all of them
deep copper
Why German beers are dark?
it has a dark history
timber viper
๐
knotty skiff
cursive crypt
oh, March sale
deep copper
Lviv is being shelled too
they said this is fake, no shelling in lviv
deep copper
i will try asking that way, their English isn't the best
for evacuation From Lviv no. They are trying to evacuate people from cities where are the most active battle actions
deep copper
By shell I mean cruise missiles and air strikes
not on lviv they said
in*
but russia did break agreements for not firing during evacuation
or so they say
timber viper
Eh, they know better than me ofc if they live there. I just saw footages claiming bombings happening at there
So I might be wrong
deep copper
that just goes to show how much weird info is there online
there are "air raid sirens etc" btw
but nothing there
east Ukrainians are moving west
timber viper
for evacuation `From Lviv no. They are trying to evacuate people from cities whe...
I wonder where Aquanox were living. Kharkiv, Mariupol, Kiev is one of those cities. Since both Aquanox and your ex-collueague went offline at similar times, maybe they are being evacuated @foggy path
deep copper
In lviv we already have about 200 000 refugees
situation in lviv is calm, and no issues with food either they say
deep copper
Problems are in Mariupol
deep copper
`Problems are in Mariupol`
Problems with food, electricity, connection for mariupol
deep copper
Oh, can you ask if electrics went down in cities?
Only in few
timber viper
Thanks
deep copper
they said russians are killing innocents, even children
apparently mariupol has got it quite bad
deep copper
Yeah, they planned rocket strikes on civil object like houses, hospitals, even kindergarten and orphanage
It looks like they're in agony now, just trying to do the most damage cause they already failed
quasi mantle
how are you all doing?
Feeling shit
ocean parcel
Feeling shit
Why?
deep copper
Yeah, they expected that we'd be in fear and they would quickly make it to Kyiv
But fuck them
deep copper
Had some rain flu for almost a week and I lost too many energy
rest up brother, get well soon ๐
ocean parcel
Had some rain flu for almost a week and I lost too many energy
Ah yes, I too lack energy. I hope you get better!
deep copper
Ah yes, I too lack energy. I hope you get better!
eat seeds , get energy ๐ช
ocean parcel
eat seeds , get energy ๐ช
I think the opposite is the case. xD
deep copper
get energy, eat seeds?
or, lose seeds, lose energy..?
that sounds like a threat lol
deep copper
but how? seed != energy?
ocean parcel
but how? seed != energy?
:o
quasi mantle
The energy will grow from the seeds.
The same way you can grow orange plant when you accidentally swallow an orange seed
timber viper
waif russia took nuclear weapons from ukr to protect it before?
Yeah Ukr had nuclear weapons before
Since it was a Soviet land
They left it there before collapse ๐
But real irony is, EU forced Ukraine to do this, not Russia itself
Its released?
quasi mantle
Its released?
Just recently.
timber viper
๐ฅณ time to break my project
deep copper
how many previews till final release?
quasi mantle
Here we go fetch origin again
timber viper
how many previews till final release?
They usually stop at 3 but for UE5 i guess its n amount of previews
deep copper
aren't hotfixes are release?
after*
like,
prev 1, 2, 3
version n.0, n.1 (this?), n.2?
timber viper
aren't hotfixes are release?
Yeah but they are not significant changes
quasi mantle
I'm going to go to sleep now while my batch is trying to fetch and gitdep in a loop for the UE5.
||Yes, I know my internet connection is crappy, thank you for reality check||
deep copper
I'm going to go to sleep now while my batch is trying to fetch and gitdep in a l...
night night, sweet dreams!
and well, as long as it does the job.... slow and steady wins the race! right?
quasi mantle
Well tbh I'm just going to try bringing over my code changes from UE4 to UE5, and see how low end friendly it is compared to UE4.
Just so happens that my machinima project has to have UE5 branch ASAP
deep copper
asap? did something happen?
Association of russian rectors(idk how it's called in English) support what's going on. They call it denazification and demilitarisation. And they say that russia is stopping 8year conflict between Ukraine and Donbass(which is part of Ukraine and there was no conflict before 2014 when russians came there). They're saying that "we (about russians) need to be strong, don't break under the sanctions and support our president"
i finally mango to end the dm convo
managed*
ocean parcel
Oh cool, you guys talking about russia
quasi mantle
asap? did something happen?
I promised that I'm going to bring it to UE5
Also I lost on many UE5 questions in this server
Also I had to assess it in low spec computer myself to see if I'm going to stay in UE4 for my game (and have UE5 for the Deluxe Edition) or can simply port them to UE5 while supporting last gen hardware. LPV is gone in UE5, so I don't know how UE5's SSGI is going to fare
deep copper
Oh cool, you guys talking about russia
just me sending my convo with a Ukrainian
ocean parcel
just me sending my convo with a Ukrainian
ahh
quasi mantle
asap? did something happen?
Also yeah, my machinima project relies on Control Rig
deep copper
I promised that I'm going to bring it to UE5
Also I lost on many UE5 questions ...
too many unknowns basically?
mossy nexus
Now in Gamma. More professional errors occur.
quasi mantle
too many unknowns basically?
Yeah, and I had to blend with those cool kiddos
ocean parcel
oh cool is that weird al!?!? ๐ ๐ ๐คฃ ๐๐คฃ ๐ฏ ๐ฏ ๐ ๐
mossy nexus
Russian people in the USA can't import oil now? The worlds gone crazy. CRAZY I tell ya!
quasi mantle
It's kinda interesting to look back how the internet used to heavily use Russian culture as a meme, now it's almost full racism towards Russians.
mossy nexus
I think I need some context here
deep copper
guess i just haven't visited those parts of the internet xD
i know russians had some memes going for them
i recently saw people posting "thin putin" saying he lost the internet's support to be "wide putin"
i never figured what that was all about
quasi mantle
I think I need some context here
Not a week before the war going on, the memes have slav stuff, vodka, Putin, and stuff
deep copper
let's not forget the whole comrade thing
quasi mantle
Hard bass as well
deep copper
"our" meme thing
quasi mantle
Now it's almost full racism against any Russians (some would broaden the target into anyone using Cyrillic)
deep copper
i can expect that to be amplified on twitter
timber viper
what does that mean ๐ค
mossy nexus
I usually manage to avoid such places of ill repute, and so can't say I've saw any such memes.
quasi mantle
It's like speedrun of mass scale turning 180ยฐ
mossy nexus
but I can imagine a certain type of internetian enjoying posting that kind of crass thing.
deep copper
I usually manage to avoid such places of ill repute, and so can't say I've saw a...
it's common to see those memes in hardbass song vids on yt
mossy nexus
probably because of all the little wires that connect all the bones together and then all the even tinier wires attached to the mesh.
takes a while to wire those wires
verbal junco
@timber viper rauchbier is a must try. when I was a teen it was too much but when I tried it as an adult it was fantastic
verbal junco
Why German beers are dark?
to be clear, dark in german does not necessarily mean heavy. the south germans have the unique "dark lagers", which are light and refreshing despite being dark
(also schlenkerla and mahrs both originate in the same town - Bamberg, the modern capital of germany beer)
dunkel
or schwarz
bronze axle
VR plugins are disabled by default in UE5 Preview 2. This will be a good day.
Finally.
Only UE5 is powerful enough to accomplish this task.
quasi mantle
I forgot about this song
https://youtu.be/jqnC54vbUbU
bronze axle
A true hero indeed.
verbal junco
the gif made me second guess myself ๐
verbal junco
it's been perhaps 2 decades since I've watched spaceballs last
forgive me for not being up to date on the lingo
I only watch movies once 
timber viper
Still better than me
timber viper
It's different
verbal junco
selective memory ๐
verbal junco
https://tenor.com/view/aurelius467385-re-zero-elsa-granhiert-fighting-gif-237372...
wouldn't that be erusa?
timber viper
that means they don't select to remember tank ? ๐ข
I remember my Tank buddy in various ways, Aku no Hana, UDataAsset, idontunderstandcppijustpretend etc
foggy path
"hard" consonant sounds?
deep copper
they have an R that's mix of L and R with a vowel too, no R or L even as a "soft" consonant(?) i guess
foggy path
Ahh right, you meant like individually as characters yeah
U is sometimes sort silent/semi-silent so it can kinda be used like that sometimes
or rather, that's why it's woruku
or actually it would probably be spelled wa-ku but that's besides the point lol
Do they ๐ค
deep copper
i don't think so
foggy path
actually it might be wo-ku
deep copper
yeah the prefer to abbreviate complicated english words
timber viper
How about wouku
charred crag
You are welcome. For that checkin I joined Epic!
foggy path
wasei eigo spelling can sometimes be pretty weird
I think "venus" is spelled "binasu"
deep copper
You are welcome. For that checkin I joined Epic!
how do they even find someone said something about them ? ๐ค
foggy path
yeah but even the pronounciation is sometimes off lol
deep copper
i guess ue5 is stepping up the game
mossy nexus
Nobody say anything in case it's a bug.
foggy path
ah yes venus is bi-nasu, and peanuts is pi-nattsu
first time I heard bi-nasu I thought they said peanuts and it was very confusing
lol
deep copper
they don't have a "v" letter, they use "bi" for it
foggy path
indeed
deep copper
and they have t so they won't use s for it, well you could've misunderstood it as... something else
foggy path
well even in english b and v sometimes sound similar so it makes sense
deep copper
it's also in a few other languages where they use B instead of V or We sounds
it's hard to wrap around your head
if you don't have it
bronze axle
I'm learning Japanese right now, and I find it really easy to grasp pronunciation because it's phonetic. No ambiguity when you're looking at a word.
deep copper
yup
foggy path
yeah
deep copper
no spaces around words might be an issue for some
foggy path
that's the only simple thing about it then
:D
well, to be fair the grammar is not that hard either
but the fucking writing systems asdf;lkjg
deep copper
English is actually way more complicated
foggy path
...even with that you can always calm yourself by telling yourself "at least it's not chinese"
bronze axle
Writing in Japanese is intimidating, mostly because of kanji. So much to learn.
deep copper
...better than chinese
foggy path
I'm not sure what the confusing part about context and such is though ๐ค
bronze axle
Open Unreal (4 or 5) and go to Help โ Credits. You'll see the many people who have contributed pull requests over the years. ๐
deep copper
you can easily shift to korean if you don't want to learn too many letters btw, it's way simple to read, grammer is similar as jap
bronze axle
I wasn't sure. ๐
foggy path
Yeah I guess english specifies "you" and such more often in sentences
it might be because finnish doesn't that it didn't really bother me that much
bronze axle
I don't write C++, so no.
deep copper
let's not bring up tenses and complex verb agreement etc of English
the way words transform ...
foggy path
transform?
deep copper
yeah, ing ed etc, too many exceptions
mossy nexus
If I was to speak my native tongue no one here would understand a single word. Including me, as I can't speak it.
bronze axle
English must be a pain for non-native speakers to learn.
foggy path
as a finnish speaker your handful of english conjugrations are nothing
mossy nexus
English appears to be hard for native speakers at times too
bronze axle
"This word can be pronounced several different ways and have several different meanings, but is always written the same."
foggy path
auto, autoon, auton, autosta, autoihin, autoille, autoissa, autoista, autojen, autolla, autolta...
that's not even all of them...
timber viper
Objects having a gender scare me in languages
foggy path
and that's just for one word
deep copper
i recall a yt short saying french has personne or something for person and nobody
timber viper
Also French ๐
verbal junco
If I was to speak my native tongue no one here would understand a single word. I...
which would that be?!
bronze axle
I'm learning German because my girlfriend's family is German, and the gender always confuses me. When I ask about it the answer is always "I don't know that's just the way it is."
deep copper
"it's about the message" hey as long as meaning is clear, right?
bronze axle
I'm having a much easier time learning Japanese.
mossy nexus
which would that be?!
Gaelic.
verbal junco
I'm learning German because my girlfriend's family is German, and the gender alw...
there's no rhyme or reason usually. do it like the turkish germans, make everything "die"
foggy path
swedish has a bit similar thing like that
swedish nouns have a prefix, "en" or "ett"
it's easy to say that it's like "a" or "an" in english
and that's more or less how it was taught in school for us
bronze axle
there's no rhyme or reason usually. do it like the turkish germans, make everyth...
Sold. Certainly easier than remembering when to say die/der/das. lmao
foggy path
but the problem is... you can't predict what prefix it uses, unlike in english
it's completely arbitrary
so it being taught like it's a/an just doesn't work, and makes it seem stupid
because it's really more like part of the word, and not just some prefix
deep copper
the only upside to European languages would be similar looking letters
zinc matrix
@verbal junco random question, but would you mind recording your best impression of Desmond from Smiling Friends here and sharing it with me? https://vocaroo.com/
verbal junco
so it being taught like it's a/an just doesn't work, and makes it seem stupid
a/an doesn't work though
like why is it "an hour"
foggy path
because the H is silent
verbal junco
is it though? ๐ค
mossy nexus
yup, it's a phonetic rule
zinc matrix
!8ball should CE record his best impression of Desmond from Smiling Friends and share it with me?
turbid spindleBOT
@zinc matrix, :8ball: Very doubtful.
zinc matrix
<@456226577798135808>, :8ball: Very doubtful.
ah, you're no fun
bronze axle
At first, Japanese really confused me as an English speaker because sentence structure is sort of backwards.
verbal junco
japanese is hard
turbid spindleBOT
@ionic flame, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
mossy nexus
if it sounds like a vowel it get's treated a vowel.
zinc matrix
japanese is hard
not as hard as doing an impression of Desmond
verbal junco
I heard the other that "y" is not treated as a vowel in english
which freaks me out
deep copper
if it sounds like a vowel it get's treated a vowel.
and i have had a few correct me saying "a hour" is right,
bronze axle
For example: sentences tend to flip the subject and verb around.
zinc matrix
which freaks me out
bliblies freak me out
verbal junco
For example: sentences tend to flip the subject and verb around.
they do SOV, but it's not the hardest part
bronze axle
Yeah, SOV isn't bad once you get used to it. Just was hard to grasp early on.
So instead of saying "I eat pizza" it's more like "I pizza eat" literally translated.
verbal junco
constructs that require multiple sentence parts are hard
bronze axle
But in Japanese, it makes perfect sense how it flows.
deep copper
So instead of saying "I eat pizza" it's more like "I pizza eat" literally transl...
or just "pizza eat" for jap
mossy nexus
an hour is grammatically correct as the sound is a vowel. There are more learned people than me with blogs n papers n such out there in internetland. Stay strong brother, 'an' was, is, and will be correct... ๐
deep copper
an hour is grammatically correct as the sound is a vowel. There are more learned...
ikr? it also sounds wrong to use "a" there, it doesn't , flow
faint dock
pfist did you learn japanese as a grown up?
verbal junco
But in Japanese, it makes perfect sense how it flows.
I don't know that it does, but I guess it depends on perspective
ๆฅๆฌ่ช่ฉฑใใฎใ้ฃใใ
bronze axle
pfist did you learn japanese as a grown up?
Yes, I'm still early in my studies. Not even done with JLPT N5.
bronze axle
I plan to reach N1 and become fluent enough to have casual conversations with native speakers.
foggy path
I have JLPT whatever, I can kinda understand some and read some but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
bronze axle
I'd like to travel to Japan someday, hopefully live there for a while.
verbal junco
that's everyone's goal ๐
foggy path
My vocabulary is probably really random
faint dock
it's crazy how hard japanese is to grok
foggy path
japanese and finnish have very similar pronounication so that's pretty easy for me as well
verbal junco
I'm around 3.5 but I haven't practiced in a while
timber viper
@ionic flame did u just watch animes or also studied to learn Japanese?
deep copper
My strength is my pronunciation. It comes naturally to me.
your name is hard to pronounce itself, so understandable
bronze axle
True.
foggy path
One thing I noticed that makes you sound a bit more native is that it seems with japanese, you keep your tongue to the bottom of your mouth.. with english you tend to move it more
not sure if it's just me though
:D
bronze axle
For my handle, just put a - after the p and you're good. For my name, the P is silent and the rest sounds like it looks.
deep copper
One thing I noticed that makes you sound a bit more native is that it seems with...
is that where french kiss comes from?
foggy path
maybe
verbal junco
pfist reminds me of pferd
deep copper
For my handle, just put a - after the p and you're good. For my name, the P is s...
"-fist"?
bronze axle
It's pronounced like "p-fist"
foggy path
not sure I want to know where that nickname comes from
deep copper
is it a p and f mix f?
bronze axle
It's a nickname I got from my boss a long time ago. It's the first half of my last name, and he couldn't pronounce it so he just called me that and it stuck.
deep copper
puff like
foggy path
heh
mossy nexus
p'uh phisssssst
bronze axle
lol
foggy path
I have a long and complex finnish last name which is fun for english speakers
foggy path
lol nah, besides those aren't even used in finnish
deep copper
ah
mossy nexus
Any masters of Icelandic?
foggy path
it just has an awkward consonant combination which doesn't work well in english
deep copper
any example?
foggy path
well it's bit like Rรคikkรถnen I guess lol
although that one is a bit easier for english speakers I guess
deep copper
it does have fancy letters! รถ รค
verbal junco
้ฃใใใฃใฆใๆฅๆฌ่ชๅๅผทใใใฎใๆฅฝใใใ
deep copper
good good
foggy path
three moonrunes in that sentence that I do not recognize
verbal junco
I don't really do kanji recognition, I just go by the word
deep copper
well it's bit like Rรคikkรถnen I guess lol
also double kk, like ponkkis name
foggy path
HELLO
verbal junco
well it's bit like Rรคikkรถnen I guess lol
rรคikkรถnen sounds badass
but it probably means something like "boatmaker"
foggy path
Is Discord up yet?
verbal junco
yes
tulip orbit
was it down?
foggy path
you must be joking
tulip orbit
...I havent noticed any issues...
foggy path
rรคikkรถnen sounds badass
but it probably means something like "boatmaker"
also Rรคikkรถnen means nothing
burnt lake
Rip
bronze axle
Significant outage for many people. May not have affected everyone.
verbal junco
so like... void?
bronze axle
verbal junco
void is a pretty badass name
foggy path
Nothing as in it's just a name and has no meaning besides that
lol
We went back to irc thanks to discord being down
ah of course the image won't upload
that one is an embed so it might open if you click it :P
foggy path
How many of them use the symbol ็ก in it?
verbal junco
1
verbal junco
็ก means nothing, not void
foggy path
Well a void tends to be defined as something which contains nothing I guess
verbal junco
not in japanese
tulip orbit
I am a void
tulip orbit
..what'd you call me?!
verbal junco
็ฉบ่ is probably the purest expression of void
at least going by the kanji
welp I managed to get the final achievement in slay the spire in the meanwhile
so now I never have to play that game again
faint dock
i almost got work done during the discord outage
but luckily there was an apple event to watch phew
timber viper
but luckily there was an apple event to watch *phew*
Disaster averted
Good job
I was also about to start working on my work, but luckily Discord came back
mossy nexus
Blue Print Ninja Challenge update:
As long as you fill in their new form you can look forward to receiving your official Swag any time from now and until they do send it out and you actually get it.
verbal junco
**Blue Print Ninja Challenge update:**
As long as you fill in their new form yo...
link the form?
verbal junco
Try: https://epicgames.questionpro.com/a/TakeSurvey?tt=xsYtHm%2Baej8%3D
filled the from but didn't do the challenge
let's see if it works
cursive crypt
pffuuu... I got a full blown series of PC boot crashes - maybe the ram profile was bad ๐ค
scary
celest musk
i guess that was cloudflare freaking out
ocean parcel
You mean it's creation?
tulip orbit
goddamnit. do I have to upgrade again?
cursive crypt
Can you?
foggy path
So it seems Epic lost everyone's address details for the blueprint ninja thing
New email from them "yeah we're gonna start sending them out TODAY!" "..but you need to refill your address details"
cursive crypt
Next: Samurai print
foggy path
at least they had a t-shirt sizing chart in the new form
so was able to confirm that the size was roughly the right one :P
verbal junco
goddamnit. do I have to upgrade again?
yes if you want that true to life 8k resolution
4k is now low spec
fwiw I'm still running a 1070ti
and I'm sure it'll be fine for another 5 years
timid hill
So it seems Epic lost everyone's address details for the blueprint ninja thing
Check the forum thread, they didn't lose it but a ton of people kept DMing the employee with address updates and requests to get double emails sorted (which is why the form also asks for both sign up and participation email separately - people had signed up with a different email than they used on the learning portal)
So rather than having this one person getting DMed and having to manually keep updating the list constantly, they're just doing it this way, especially as a lot of people don't know about the forum thread
foggy path
Wow :P
somehow if people screwed it up before they're still gonna screw it up... oh well
:D
No big deal to refill the form, I just thought it was a funny dumb theory that they lost them all lol
zinc matrix
you know this might be random but im surprised nobody remade tempo from the 32x yet
broken sigil
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4090-performance-vs-3090
Good thing I completely ignored rtx 30xx series existence ๐
regal pecan
With that power usage, it's just a fatter 30xx series.
broken sigil
Yeah ๐ฌ
Soon my 1000W power supply won't be enough....
regal pecan
and having that extra load on your AC system can't be good
soft night
your 2kW powersuply won't be enough?
regal pecan
For every video card, you must purchase stake in a new solar panel farm.
soft night
the elon even talk of nuclear power too now
regal pecan
You already can. 200250 (if you insist) watts a day is the same as 1500 watts for a couple hours
left granite
regal pecan
Datacenters are consolidated planet heating machines
They're not very good at it compared to, say, the sun, but they try
pearl elk
this is why we put datacenters in space where its cold
deep copper
**Blue Print Ninja Challenge update:**
As long as you fill in their new form yo...
why does it sound more and more like a phishing scam
pearl elk
youre telling me Ive been waiting all this time and my swag isnt coming ๐ฆ
deep copper
and discord sure went down, it was finally time to ask what double kk does
pearl elk
theres my necromancy done for the week
deep copper
what did you do?
pearl elk
UE5 is faster than the launcher
pearl elk
slackers launcher
pearl elk
I had to send the post via carrier pidgeon
charred rapids
It is remarkable how Epic managed to make their launcher so slow though
pearl elk
considering how little functionality it actually has its surprising
rugged jetty
It is remarkable how Epic managed to make their launcher *so* slow though
for me its extremely inconsistent
like sometimes it will be rly smooth and fast
and other times its so sluggish i might as well be on a powerpoint
solid hull
Fenyx Rising is growing on me. The dialogue is kinda irritating though.
cursive crypt
I have to drop my PC for a repair :/
unborn lotus
if you drop your PC it will definitely need a repair
cursive crypt
At this point it can't get much worse I guess, still unusable.
It hardly awakes, the lazy bastard. BSODs on some bios configs sometimes. Even the bios froze... Hell, even the power off button didn't worked once.
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
fluid bloom
I fucking hate the new forum software epic uses
trying to search something from the current page is impossible with ctrl+F because the page hijacks the function
thank god the GUI search button in browser still works
fluid bloom
thanks
I feel like the usability of the forums went down the drain after the update
but it isn't that different except for the endless scrolling threads that are lazy loaded as you scroll
but for some reason I stopped using it completely after the update ๐
maybe it's the fonts or the style or something, it's hard to read
deep copper
deep copper
it's probably the life of those kids playing it, and that's why those that make the cheats can get something out of it, or so i think
cursive crypt
iddqd
knotty skiff
Oh wow
deep copper
i didn't even know barbie was a game
knotty skiff
The game makes me wet MORE
deep copper
roblox is a ... barbie game..?
deep copper
The game makes me wet MORE
what even are you playing
knotty skiff
what even are you playing
Frontline
cursive crypt
I remember having a standalone app for cheats and walkthroughs. Was a german project. Time ago.
dlh
I think was the name.
deep copper
you said it
cursive crypt
Kinda cool, having a library.
cursive crypt
Nowadays, kids lazy with twitch and YouTube..
deep copper
assuming not everyone is lazy
cursive crypt
Was thinking about walkthroughs and cheats still, but yeah.
Or the occasional assembly hacking
Ascii maps, the best maps, lol
deep copper
9000 what? cats? cakes?
left granite
am i too young to be in this convo
pearl elk
youre never too young to be banned from tiktok
left granite
well i dont use tik tok
pfist why dont we have a sever animated banner and an animated server icon
deep copper
am i too young to be in this convo
discord allows 13+
deep copper
pfist why dont we have a sever animated banner and an animated server icon
so that devs don't procrastinate by watching those animations. or waste time by having to scroll through a banner i guess
left granite
but not 18+
deep copper
ik you have said your age before
left granite
ik you have said your age before
left granite
and your gender as well in the bio ๐ค it's not there rn tho
yeah removed it
left granite
and your location
only my country
quasi mantle
https://mobile.twitter.com/lightforgegames
Will they change how I play FF14?
deep copper
only my country
i mean, I won't expect anyone to put their full address here
uhhh
yeah that's gotta be fake
oh the location is real, it's epic games building, didn't know you lived there
i suppose it's easy as a cat ๐ค
left granite
i mean, I won't expect anyone to put their full address here
loul
deep copper
here kittykittykitty, pspspsps
soft night
tulip orbit
ue5 preview 2, whats that usually mean in terms of full release?
tulip orbit
ah, ok
pearl elk
my birthday, Epic loves me
tulip orbit
oh thanks. now they'll delay it
cursive crypt
Really, when? This year?
cursive crypt
Oof
tulip orbit
๐
pearl elk
it'll be released before most people get their Steam Decks ๐
cursive crypt
Hot take.
tulip orbit
I could use a steam deck at work. Tho I think I'd be too tired on breaks to play anything
if I could even find a game I'd be willing to play with basically a console type controller
cursive crypt
Modern kitchen appliance, healthy veggies are good.
pearl elk
play fruit ninja on your fridge
the hook is, the fridge is actually cutting your fruit in the background
tulip orbit
I could do that with the displays at work (work at hardware store)
cursive crypt
Soo.. you sell gpus?
tulip orbit
naw, like, lumber, building mats, appliances. that kinda hardware
cursive crypt
Hih, that too hard ware.
deep copper
that would be hard to cut
pearl elk
I wish I could build a gpu out of lumber
tulip orbit
lumber is too expensive these days.
pearl elk
least foliage rendering would be improved
tulip orbit
I remember a 2x4x8' being $1-2. now its like $10
pearl elk
hmm I need to work out how to wire my 2x12" dual coil subs
cursive crypt
I guess toilet paper price will rise too.
quasi mantle
Papers in general seem to have some price rise recently
timber viper
Nice project name
deep glen
+1
deep copper
that also looks neat, i like it
quasi mantle
Is this going to be free open source?
mossy nexus
waits with baited breath to find out what the final 'S' stands for... :D
quasi mantle
Did the FOSS message came through?
It doesn't show up on my phone
deep copper
it did
deep copper
i was also about to make a FROST joke because ponki is cold
deep copper
_waits with baited breath to find out what the final 'S' stands for... :D_
also waits
quasi mantle
Free Open Source Something
verbal junco
I know I'm thinking outside the box here but... software?
deep copper
I know I'm thinking outside the box here but... software?
no way, it's probably uh can't think of anything better
deep copper
sacrifice, sadness, safety, salad, savings, sauce, scalp
cursive crypt
uuuh... So you don't use it inside UE? Anyway, if you find it fun. I mean, probably a casual shell script can do the same. And there are even ready apps that can setup the prios on processes. That plugin is basically that.
ched
I'm not shaming, wheels are constantly reinvented - because it is fun. Been doing it myself a lot.
+$100 / month right away
deep copper
"profound knowledge in external engine script handling"
verbal junco
took me a while
verbal junco
what is that? cotton?
dead doves
deep copper
i read the gif link
deep copper
dead doves
tbh that is more plausible than money...
notice how they carefully avoided using c
the letter C in that sentence
verbal junco
nah it just looked as feathers being pushed into the air ๐
deep copper
it could also have been alive doves
verbal junco
you can't tell me you can tell the difference of a few pixels
deep copper
the gif isn't high res enough
i guess their pfp doesn't have huge eyes for no reason
verbal junco
tbh it could look like paper trash too
so idk
I'd have to look at the air buoyance of a feather compared to a piece of paper I guess
deep copper
i thought it was some new physiX demonstration or whatever it was called
deep copper
I'd have to look at the air buoyance of a feather compared to a piece of paper I...
ikr? it definitely doesn't feels like money
deep copper
https://gfycat.com/clearsereneanchovy
i absolutely forgot about that ! xD
quasi mantle
I went vanilla to the max
deep copper
hey that was hardbass at the end
quasi mantle
deep copper
people like peps might avoid you now
deep copper
https://discord.com/channels/187217643009212416/221799439008923648/9425475767696...
that leads me to a peps meme ๐ค
atleast did 2 out of 20 times
quasi mantle
Wasn't that the one that attacked me a while ago?
deep copper
why can't they keep easier names like "A" or "B"
cursive crypt
weebs
quasi mantle
Though I found new specimen in #animation
verbal junco
quasi mantle
deep copper
let me just make a list for myself here,
famous ban list:
peps : overconfident, landscape on tick
clarpi/carpli: attacks weebs, calls others n....as(?)
dude1(?): calls others n....as
quasi mantle
Good thing I didn't put that Driver Nephi meme
deep copper
https://discord.com/channels/187217643009212416/221798806713401345/9507539296317...
haha love how you just went with your day
what's their name?
verbal junco
https://discord.com/channels/187217643009212416/221798806713401345/9507539296317...
probably crapli being back
quasi mantle
haha love how you just went with your day
I originally wanted to drop "get f'ed" on him, but retracted it at the last minute
deep copper
let's call them dude1 for now
deep copper
I originally wanted to drop "get f'ed" on him, but retracted it at the last minu...
the most you can do is not waste your own time more afterall
verbal junco
I originally wanted to drop "get f'ed" on him, but retracted it at the last minu...
just report them
that was crapli too
deep copper
i will add both the names i guess
verbal junco
it's moot he's banned from the server already
deep copper
who is moot?
quasi mantle
just report them
Feel free to ping moderators on that, that happened when I'm about to go to my daytime job, and I didn't report it myself on that
deep copper
who is moot?
ah wait okay i got it, it's a word
deep copper
it's moot he's banned from the server already
i am just doing it for future references, since i can't add those in anyone's notes or bot dms or servers without forgetting where it was
quasi mantle
Besides I felt like it was too old of a case for me to summon the mods on, but I might be wrong
deep copper
ah, another star of the drama channel #cpp
i searched for the keyword "ban" to figure out peps name and i ran into 2 messages saying someone pinged epic staff and were speed running ban
in #ue4-general
quasi mantle
Well, both channels are more crowded
deep copper
both were recent messages i think
quasi mantle
i searched for the keyword "ban" to figure out peps name and i ran into 2 messag...
Oh that, the guy who had problems with webinar thingie
deep copper
i often wonder how mods even moderate so many channels
quasi mantle
Though UE webinars have VOD pretty quick, maybe
deep copper
Oh that, the guy who had problems with webinar thingie
didn't read details, did they survive?
quasi mantle
I mean, Unreal Fest Online had VOD after few days
quasi mantle
didn't read details, did they survive?
The convo stopped
quasi mantle
Even the spams went quite this week
timber viper
They mostly hang out at #cpp #graphics #blueprint
Kaos visits #gameplay-ai very rarely
eXi usually visits #multiplayer
quasi mantle
Hoodie, lurker of #animation (when I'm not busy)
deep copper
They mostly hang out at <#221799439008923648> <#221799195806400512> <#2217988629...
i suppose those are the risky ones
timber viper
Unless you encounter DevilsD you are safe
deep copper
they also have their timezones
quasi mantle
I've been considering to shorten my alias to Hoodie, but I had use the initial THG pretty much everywhere
deep copper
Unless you encounter DevilsD you are safe
DevilsD, the annihilator
quasi mantle
Also consider that my alias allows me to avoid obligation of using Twitter style bio of pronoun mentioning (he/him) so yay me
deep copper
haha that's nice
deep copper
jack jr
quasi mantle
Also my main language's pronoun is based on quantity, so word that translates to "they" refers to more than one entity.
verbal junco
which toxicity? ๐
deep copper
Also my main language's pronoun is based on quantity, so word that translates to...
that's rather, unique
quasi mantle
which toxicity? ๐
#level-design flashbacks
quasi mantle
that's rather, unique
And they say Indonesian is the most boss language
deep copper
their toxic standard is off perhaps
deep copper
And they say Indonesian is the most boss language
boss language?
quasi mantle
dia -> he/she (singular)
mereka -> they (plural)
verbal junco
conquistadores son personas non gratas ๐
quasi mantle
Unless otherwise specified, Indonesian pronouns are gender neutral.
deep copper
i hope languages don't get messy with new "genders"
deep copper
"atoms arranged human wise"
quasi mantle
"Dia adalah sesuatu yang mengacaukan percakapan kami"
deep copper
you used dia, so no gender mentioned?
quasi mantle
you used dia, so no gender mentioned?
Nope.
If you use "dia", you're referring at something singular.
Though we rarely use it to refer to an inanimate objects.
If you use "mereka", you're referring to more than one entities.
deep copper
mereka works for inanimate?
quasi mantle
mereka works for inanimate?
"Mereka" works for either living or inanimate.
deep copper
"Dia adalah sesuatu yang mengacaukan percakapan kami"
"He's something that messed up our conversation"
as per translate
verbal junco
well if japanese can have 30+ ways of defining void then I'll take it at face value that other languages have their special attributes
quasi mantle
Unless otherwise specified elsewhere, genders are not assumed. But translators defaults it to "he"
verbal junco
as per translate
whats your language
quasi mantle
"Risa adalah gadis belia. Dia suka membaca komik."
"Harun adalah pria tangguh. Dia berhasil melawan penyakit kronis."
ocean parcel
'Let's support Ukraine but not tooooooo much or Wussia might get angwy. :3' - America
quasi mantle
'Let's support Ukraine but not tooooooo much or Wussia might get angwy. :3' - Am...
Last time I checked social media threads, they're still racist towards Russians ๐ค
ocean parcel
*I meant 'American government'.
deep copper
whats your language
detect language to English
verbal junco
detect language to English
I meant your language
deep copper
"Risa adalah gadis belia. Dia suka membaca komik."
"Harun adalah pria tangguh. D...
"Risa is a young girl. She likes reading comics."
"Harun is a tough guy. He's managed to fight a chronic illness."
quasi mantle
"Risa adalah gadis belia. Dia suka membaca komik."
"Harun adalah pria tangguh. D...
In these sentence examples, the gender of each character determined by previous words.
Risa being "gadis belia" (F) and Harun being "pria tangguh" (M)
The beauty of Indonesian language.
verbal junco
exquisite
deep copper
"Risa adalah gadis belia. Dia suka membaca komik."
"Harun adalah pria tangguh. D...
on getting rid of first sentence "He likes reading comics."
"He was successfully fighting a chronic illness."
deep copper
"Risa adalah gadis belia. Dia suka membaca komik."
"Harun adalah pria tangguh. D...
getting rid of names but keeping what you said "Young girl. She likes to read comics."
"A tough man. He's fought a chronic illness."
i like how they are seperate sentences yet affect the next
well, translate using he's or she probably tells some context is transferred
quasi mantle
Which is where human translations step in.
deep copper
'Let's support Ukraine but not tooooooo much or Wussia might get angwy. :3' - Am...
yeah didn't they stop some country from sending fighter planes because "it risks nato countries" ?
deep copper
I meant _your_ language
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quasi mantle
Also we sometimes joke about Indonesian love songs being gender agnostic unless specified somewhere throughout the lyrics
"Mungkinkah dia jatuh hati
Seperti apa yang kurasa
Mungkinkah dia jatuh cinta
Seperti apa yang kudamba"
deep copper
Also we sometimes joke about Indonesian love songs being gender agnostic unless ...
"Could he fall in love
Like what I think
Could he fall in love
Like what I want"
quasi mantle
Also, another Indonesian fun fact
The word "we" can be translated into either "kita" atau "kami"
The difference is that "kami" often exclude second person ("you"), as opposed to "kita"
deep copper
Changing to
"gadis belia, Mungkinkah dia jatuh hati Seperti apa yang kurasa Mungkinkah dia jatuh cinta Seperti apa yang kudamba"
"Youth girl, could she fall in love
Like what I guess
Could he be in love
Like what I crave "
quasi mantle
Changing to
`"gadis belia, Mungkinkah dia jatuh hati Seperti apa yang kurasa Mun...
Google translate seem to split the context per line, eh
deep copper
Also, another Indonesian fun fact
The word "we" can be translated into either "k...
but kami includes third person or something?
deep copper
Google translate seem to split the context per line, eh
not how it works?
so it should transfer to end lines as well?
the last lines have changed, want became crave
but, he remains
quasi mantle
but kami includes third person or something?
Both "kita" and "kami" include plural third person, yes.
quasi mantle
not how it works?
Well, the sentence I quote was an excerpt from an Indonesian pop song, the lyrics were from one perspective about one story.
deep copper
that's a bit complicated to think about, no second person but rest included, is it used when talking in the group to a group member about the group but not them?
deep copper
Well, the sentence I quote was an excerpt from an Indonesian pop song, the lyric...
what gender should it have been in if it had a gender?
quasi mantle
what gender should it have been in if it had a gender?
If unspecified, depends on the singer / listeners.
quasi mantle
that's a bit complicated to think about, no second person but rest included, is ...
That'd be "mereka", because it refers to plural third person.
Also "kita" can be just first person and second person.
The main takeaway is that Indonesian pronouns are based on quantity.
deep copper
that's neat i suppose
every language has a unique way of pointing to variables and transferring context, it's fascinating
quasi mantle
It's also (arguably) easier to learn for English speaking people, as Indonesian have no special letters beyond Latin letters, and fairly straightforward pronounciations.
ocean parcel
yeah didn't they stop some country from sending fighter planes because "it risks...
yeah Poland was going to give their entire fleet of fighter jets to Ukraine but America said no. all America and Britain politician's support for Ukraine is so false imo.
quasi mantle
(of course not including regional languages like Javanese, Sundanese, etc.)
deep copper
wait you weren't typing in English letters just because it's easier to read for us?
quasi mantle
wait you weren't typing in English letters just because it's easier to read for ...
Nope.
There is sometimes one informal case for letter E, because Indonesian has two ways of pronouncing it.
ร as in vowel "wear"
E as in vowel "third"
Though we very seldom use it in everyday convo and writings.
deep copper
so "eh" or "uh" ?
quasi mantle
Yes.
deep copper
well atleast there's an indication
quasi mantle
But we just didn't practically use it lol
deep copper
also you can go sleep if you want to, don't want to keep you awake for this ๐
quasi mantle
It's fine, I had tough sleep again because of the heavy rain
deep copper
ah
verbal junco
I don't believe in "outside"
it's a myth
propagated by the big "outside" companies
median wraith
Naked in the war
turbid spindleBOT
@ionic flame, :8ball: Without a doubt.
timber viper
!8ball Do you get annoyed when we ask questions