them all zombie games π€
#lounge
median wraith
deep copper
i will name my game something like "dead bugged bad lag" or something, no one will be able to search any faults
actually, no one will be able to search for the game then...
zinc matrix
as much as I like the fact I can play as Freddy Krueger, that game has serious balance issues
VHS looks like a better version tbh
XD
plus wear glasses which dont show your eyebrows
satan...
oh you're talking about his video presentation
yeah coulda been better
still, VHS seems more balanced
never liked dbd
zinc matrix
never liked dbd
don't blame you; the crazy gen speed, the toxic community, the hook camping, etc
verbal junco
never liked dbd
is it because it doesn't have zombies?
zinc matrix
^ignore
deep copper
it seems to have zombies as per some search results
verbal junco
shoulda guessed it by the title
deep copper
i used to think i am bad at bp but i just looked at #blueprint for 5 mins and i think i might actually be quite decent
verbal junco
it's not "alive by daylight"
deep copper
ah, right, i didn't bother connecting that
deep copper
sky of japan is up
ocean parcel
wicky wicky wa wa
deep copper
wa wa
median wraith
tbh what happened with this game ? I expected way more
verbal junco
tbh what happened with this game ? I expected way more
is the lighting better than DL2?
median wraith
banned
cursive crypt
1st time I hear about that game, which says nothing.
ocean parcel
Hmmm, it legit amazes me how people can be successful so young.
Makes me mad. Fills me with a deep-seeded hatred.
median wraith
1st time I hear about that game, which says nothing.
oh man
verbal junco
Makes me mad. Fills me with a deep-seeded hatred.
just go be successful yourself
ocean parcel
just go be successful yourself
I tried, I can't.
I'm no longer young. I'm also not a Korean or a girl.
I never used to be a Korean or a girl though.
verbal junco
I never used to be successful
ocean parcel
It is hopeless. π©
ocean parcel
I left a server after debating this recently so I'm going to be quiet now.
verbal junco
never heard of it
verbal junco
but in general I am not hype
ocean parcel
Gosh I would love to be a successful Korean girl. I hate them so much!
deep copper
Gosh I would love to be a successful Korean girl. I hate them so much!
"never give up! you can do it!"
ocean parcel
"never give up! you can do it!"
Alas, I fear this dream is out of my reach. π
deep copper
why do you want to be one though?
ocean parcel
hmmm, they seem to have a grand ol' time.
they have such a bond with eachother.
and they're all young and living life to the full.
thick belfry
Got an orientation tomorrow at the college I wanna study
deep copper
are you perhaps talking about those kpop band things? where they show the groups, doing stuff idk
thick belfry
Hyped
deep copper
Got an orientation tomorrow at the college I wanna study
goodluck manny
ocean parcel
Got an orientation tomorrow at the college I wanna study
I don't know what that is but you sound excited so congratulations!
thick belfry
It's like an open day
They told us to bring a laptop with unreal installed
(Wanna study game design)
deep copper
sounds intense for a first day
thick belfry
Well they expect you to make a game for your application
So you'll be able to get some feedback
If you've already worked on it
(Small game just to showcase your design)
deep copper
ah okay, sounds interesting
thick belfry
I hope so
I'll find out tomorrow
But I kinda quit my job so guess I'm all in either way lmao
ocean parcel
are you perhaps talking about those kpop band things? where they show the groups...
hm, idk what it is, all i know is they seem to have a grand ol' time. you're purporting it's fake i assume? however, even so, they no doubt all have such a close bond doing it all together.
deep copper
hm, idk what it is, all i know is they seem to have a grand ol' time. you're pur...
it does have some setup from what i know, but the fun they have is supposed to be genuine
deep copper
But I kinda quit my job so guess I'm all in either way lmao
be sure you don't forget something
deep copper
hm, idk what it is, all i know is they seem to have a grand ol' time. you're pur...
either way, don't worry too much about them, you can be as successful and have maybe even more fun in some other ways. it might be frustrating to leave a goal behind though
finite helm
I am alive
ocean parcel
either way, don't worry too much about them, you can be as successful and have m...
well, thank you for not ridiculing me and giving me such a thoughtful answer! :)
deep copper
I am alive
proof?
ocean parcel
I shall put a note onto your discord profile to say you are a good person.
deep copper
haha thanks, that makes me feel happy for some reason
deep copper
well, thank you for not ridiculing me and giving me such a thoughtful answer! :)
and we all have some personal goals, as long as they aren't ridiculous to self it's all good
ocean parcel
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
ocean parcel
Luna.... that's the name of the Kpop band I was just looking at. π«
deep copper
that's a name..?
deep copper
ah, i thought 1+1=2 lol
finite helm
spookiee
deep copper
xD
ocean parcel
spookiee
Hello soft engineer! I am not sure if we have met before but if we haven't then hello and if we have then I apologise for whatever I was saying when we did meet.
finite helm
No we have not, I have been around here for alonggg time, just lurking these days, busy bee with work and such
deep copper
ah, do take some breaks, your work sounds intense π
ocean parcel
is your work soft engineer?
finite helm
Just busy busy
finite helm
is your work soft engineer?
What?
finite helm
Its a bit of a pun tbh
deep copper
i like how soft engineer comes before Luna, as if, prioritising work
finite helm
Pretty soft irl, but also software engineer
ocean parcel
ahh
deep copper
haha nice
ocean parcel
well, as there is subsequent silence i feel i should ask more questions.
deep copper
go on go on
ocean parcel
but for some reason i am hesitant.
deep copper
it's silent anyway, go ahead
thick belfry
be sure you don't forget something
What do you mean?
deep copper
What do you mean?
like, some minor stuff you can forget because of excitement
ocean parcel
it's silent anyway, go ahead
well, i was going to ask in what way person is soft, but i wasn't sure if that makde sense as a question.
for example, i am quite a pushover.
i suppose that is a soft person.
finite helm
General aesthetic & behaviour
deep copper
it can be physical or abstract soft, you never know
ocean parcel
General aesthetic & behaviour
Ah, I see
ocean parcel
is that dead by daylight?
deep copper
what do you mean?
ocean parcel
well, i made a friend with a Chinese girl last year. we were only friends for not even a month but got very close. she was only going to be in the country a year though. but anyway, after nearly a month we were no longer friends.
i mourn it immensely.
celest musk
how close?
ocean parcel
though, i guess it is nothing to mourn.
ocean parcel
how close?
well she considered me to be one of her best friends.
that's what she said anyhow.
celest musk
you met her in person?
deep copper
any friendship is worth a mourn, even if short
ocean parcel
i'd never met anyone online till then.
deep copper
it's better to first recognise how you feel about it, to move ahead of it
mourning helps with that
celest musk
welp, but see it this way, rather a quick end, than months of craving which lead to nothing
ocean parcel
true, but it was back in early November that we became no longer friends. i moved on pretty quickly but the past month for osme reaosn it's rather starting to hit me.
ocean parcel
welp, but see it this way, rather a quick end, than months of craving which lead...
yeah, i've had that before! that's why i ended it, i wanted to avoid that. but i feel as though this one would've been different had i not.
deep copper
true, but it was back in early November that we became no longer friends. i move...
like i said, recognise it by mourning it a bit, don't surpress it, it will bite you back someday else otherwise, because of unresolved emotion
ocean parcel
like i said, recognise it by mourning it a bit, don't surpress it, it will bite ...
hmmm, in what way out of curiosity?
i think it already does/has bitten me haha.
deep copper
i think it already does/has bitten me haha.
it's alright, just realise what it was, the way is upto you, just realise it enough so that the next time you remember that friend you don't feel, that bad anymore?
it's like, if you avoid it, and remember it next time, it will feel worse, if you don't try avoiding it or something, it just becomes a bit nostalgic or something
ocean parcel
hmm, i suppose so, though i will always perceive it bitterly as a missed opportunity.
and hate myself for my mistakes.
deep copper
another thing you can try, rediscovring yourself? start doing some activity you loved but had to give up on or something during that time
ocean parcel
hm, there was nothing i had to give up.
deep copper
hmm, i suppose so, though i will always perceive it bitterly as a missed opportu...
well they already weren't that right for you it seems, so nothing to lose, how did it ended exactly? if you don't mind, because you make it seem like some abrupt end
celest musk
another thing you can try, rediscovring yourself? start doing some activity you ...
xD
that sounds like a suggestion after divorce of marriage of 20 years
but not after 1month of "relationship"
ocean parcel
oh, indeed! though, they seemed more right for me than anyone i've met in many, many years. perfect almost. it was very sudden though, i said something that unintentionally made them mad, so i said sorry and cut them off.
ocean parcel
but not after 1month of "relationship"
ah, it was not a relationship, just a friendship. xD
deep copper
hmm, i suppose so, though i will always perceive it bitterly as a missed opportu...
try remembering the good memories you had as well, would make it seem not that bitter maybe?
deep copper
that sounds like a suggestion after divorce of marriage of 20 years
haha yes, but i think it works for anything usually
ocean parcel
eh, the good memories just make me remember what i've lost and can't have.
deep copper
oh, indeed! though, they seemed more right for me than anyone i've met in many, ...
was it a misunderstanding ?
deep copper
buy a dog, travel the world, be free
this might actually work lol
ocean parcel
was it a misunderstanding ?
i think so, though i understand that what i said was stupid and am amazed that i said such a thing that was so obviously a stupid thing to say.
the fact that i did is proof to me that i just shouldn't talk to anyone.
luckily i don't anyway. xD
deep copper
miscommunication happens everywhere dw lol
maybe try clearing it up if possible? but the fact you didn't get much opportunity for it, seems like it's better to forget it
i remember saying a few things to a friend i knew for 5 years, they just blocked me without explaining why :/ , that's the extent of miscommunication, it can be hard to know what even went wrong
ocean parcel
maybe try clearing it up if possible? but the fact you didn't get much opportuni...
maybe but it's been over three months since this happened, over three times the amount of time we knew eachother, so it's too late now i think.
but i think had i not cut them off instantly, we would've continued to be friends.
i found out just the other day that they sent me a message the day after and they almost seemed unfazed by it, to some degree. though still mad. but said 'no one would want to lose a friend they've treated so sincerely'.
so i just made a massive error. a final error.
deep copper
ah, do you perhaps, feel like reaching out again after knowing that?
ocean parcel
it's strange, only a couple of years ago i would try for months, in failure, to repair a damaged friendship. now, knowing that doesn't work, i simply end it as soon as i make a mistake because i know it's damaged at that point and that's just how it is. but, in this case, it seems it may have been different.
foggy path
all of this depends entirely on circumstances and people involved
if you make a mistake but you would like to continue to be friends, you make an effort to do so... if the other person doesn't feel like it, then that's their choice
I've noticed people have a tendency to overthink things like this, but it's really not that complicated lol
deep copper
i mean, i myself avoid painful relations that have been too damaged, maybe i would have done the same as well, but now that you realise they tried reaching out again, are you feeling guilty? if so i also think you should try reaching out again and clearly communicating your intentions and explaining why you tried leaving
i agree with zomg, don't overthink
what's the worst that can happen?
celest musk
sometimes it's for the better, reaching out again can just lead to the same things
and so the cycle repeats
ocean parcel
well, i have always felt guilty as i made a massive error.
celest musk
you pour milk before cereals?
deep copper
once you reach out, clearly say how you did things and why, it's off your chest, now it's own them what they do, you tried your best, if you think they are reacting negetively, just leave
which is what you did before, you thought they reacted negetively so you left, good work there
like ben said, sometimes the effort in those cases isn't worth it, 90% times
ocean parcel
though, as for reaching out again, i feel is likely a bad idea. from their perspective, i've ignored their message for months. to suddenly message out of the blue after so long, seems wrong. and i know in the best case scenario even if we became acquaintances again, it would not be the same and i would be bitter with myself over that.
not to mention, they leave the country in 7 months anyway.
deep copper
alright, if you feel that's how it would be. just make sure you don't regret it / feel guilty later π because you don't want to recall this years later and go...
verbal junco
you pour milk before cereals?
I drink the milk before I eat the cereal
ocean parcel
alright, if you feel that's how it would be. just make sure you don't regret it ...
oh i will, but i'll do that regardless of whatever. xD
celest musk
I drink the milk before I eat the cereal
you got me speechless, congrats
deep copper
oh i will, but i'll do that regardless of whatever. xD
it appears like a problem, if you avoid it, it will stay and knock again. this is what i meant by recognising your feelings btw and not avoiding, just take a clear stance about it inside your head. that's clearing your problem such that you wouldn't have to worry about it again later, because you resolved it inside your head, if that makes sense.
verbal junco
I'm convinced the flak salads get in general is because lettuce in 99% of the cases sucks and is irrelevant
replacing it with e.g. parsley is superior and if you think otherwise you are wrong
deep copper
oh i will, but i'll do that regardless of whatever. xD
talking usually helps in those cases, if you ever need an ear, i am open !
deep copper
I drink the milk before I eat the cereal
eat the cereal, then drink the milk
celest musk
@verbal junco i don't think so, 95% is the dressing
deep copper
theg didn't dm so i wouldn't dm, people have called me weird for hopping inside dms before ...
verbal junco
I don't use dressing on salad
celest musk
even no vinegar/oil?
timber viper
ocean parcel
talking usually helps in those cases, if you ever need an ear, i am open !
why thank you very much!
once again you have proven yourself a good person. though do not fear for i am aware that talking does nothing and it is simply something i must have in my head.
verbal junco
but then the salads I make are limited to tabbouleh, pico de gallo, salsa rojo/verde
deep copper
why is poland pedestrian standing lol
verbal junco
even no vinegar/oil?
generally no. on rare occasions I will add a spoonful of oil to pico de gallo. but honestly the veggies carry the flavor, so would why I want to dilute that?
celest musk
because you can
verbal junco
π
celest musk
there are tasty oils, like 10W40
verbal junco
full of proteins too
deep copper
why thank you very much!
once again you have proven yourself a good person. thou...
haha yes, but remember, talking sometimes helps organise thoughts in a way you wouldn't look at it
celest musk
full of minerals
ocean parcel
haha yes, but remember, talking sometimes helps organise thoughts in a way you w...
i suppose so. but i also know what the facts are and the options that there are and ultimately, i would just talk forever haha.
deep copper
i consider cutting a tomato as salad
ocean parcel
even though i know the answers.
deep copper
even though i know the answers.
i think they had a word for it, venting? you know what to do, everyone usually does, but they still need a place to say it or something
and once it is said it makes you lighter idk
deep copper
cucumber and tomato salad is baller
aye, that's my salad
ocean parcel
ah yes very true i suppose.
deep copper
cucumber and tomato salad is baller
btw, got wordle on my 5th attempt today π
verbal junco
I had your word yesterday as today's word
verbal junco
no spoilers
I win and lose on my own
but there is... https://www.wordleunlimited.com/
verbal junco
i used your strategy to win
it is a good strat
I've one lost one game so far in total
out of maybe... a hundred?
deep copper
out of maybe... a hundred?
that's quite good stat, and you have played hundred?!
deep copper
but there is... https://www.wordleunlimited.com/
also, got that one on fourth, let's see if i get next in 3
deep copper
or I should say I've played many
uncountable huh ..
deep copper
also, got that one on fourth, let's see if i get next in 3
okay, forget 3 I can't even find a word for the 4th attempt lol, time to use some online help i guess
or i will try guessing for a bit more
verbal junco
I mean that's basically what I do
deep copper
i used a word helper, it doesn't show me any words from the remaining QWYUDFJZXBM
for 5 letters
what's happening?
NOO, WORDLE RELOADED
i lost that word forever π
maths, acute, torus, got it π
oh wait it has a lot more
cursive crypt
omg, I just read a bit about one my heroes when I was kid - totally opposite char of what I thought back then.
deep copper
what was it?
deep copper
i used a word helper, it doesn't show me any words from the remaining `QWYUDFJZX...
also i was looking at a site not for wordle lol
pearl compass
truly amazing how many people found a new experience doing standard school spelling. Just goes to show you dont need an 800 pound graphics engine to make good content.
ocean parcel
hi what's up
quasi mantle
Anyone has update on the BP Ninja swag thing?
Said they going to deliver it last month
What if it was a scam?
Or not scam but just a bait to get everyone git gud at BPing
celest musk
quasi mantle
was the challenge hard?
What if they actually check the course time for user? Because I do skip a lot over the videos and breeze my way through the quizzes like it was nothing
I was suspecting they trying to prevent "griefing" from the pros so that only real beginners getting it.
celest musk
or they may try to avoid bots from collecting bunch of cups
quasi mantle
If payment has to be made, it usually on the customs.
celest musk
someone now got 20 epic cups in his kitchen cabinet
quasi mantle
I kinda suspect this is getting into similar case with Hacktoberfest swag fiasco, where Indians spamming on open source repos, making shit pull requests, just to get Hacktoberfest swag.
At least send an update, like "Sorry but you were unfortunate enough to get the swag, as a compensation..."
I do got confirmation that I passed
Wait
Does it have to be sharing progress on Twitter?
Because I'm taking long break from Twitter.
celest musk
is there even a way to link your twitter?
otherwise they would have a hard time to figure out who did that
quasi mantle
Or maybe not, I misremebering, sorry
ocean parcel
hi everyone, what's up?
bronze axle
https://github.blog/2022-02-02-new-sponsors-only-repositories-custom-amounts-and...
I saw this last week. Sponsor-only repos is a pretty cool feature to add. I think it will be useful for folks who provide Unreal education resources, like template projects and such.
"Sponsor me on GitHub for full source code to all my tutorial projects" or something like that.
Custom one-time donations is cool, too.
Yeah, like patron-only images, articles, etc.
deep glen
as i just told a buddy
"im not one that uses github a lot, nor upload stuff to it.
But I agree, it can help open source peeps, or people who contribute a lot to (free) tools.
I could see blender-peeps be happy about it."
stuck falcon
Sorry to throw this in here randomly but I don't have anyone else to tell. I've been working on a VR project and I'm learning UE for the first time. I can't believe how amazing it is. This is the most excited I've been working on software in 20 years
deep glen
Glad you are enjoying it :)
charred rapids
Man, I don't get it. I'm a C dev, I work remotely, spend 99% of my time indoors, always wear a mask when going out, etc. still got covid
My week has been predictably sucky
tulip orbit
I just accepted a job offer, likely start next week. nightshift warehouse at a hardware store, but it'll pay the bills
my last night shift was pretty good, had a great crew (till near the end) But I was also early twenties back then.....
I just hope I dont have to stock kitchen cabinets, cause thats how I threw my back out
I'm horribly out of shape right now too, been off work too long
You should try not doing that π
just wear your ice skates
that way, you can slice an artery when you slip and fall
Malarchuk is known for surviving a life-threatening injury during a 1989 NHL game when a player's skate made contact with his neck, slicing his carotid artery and partially slicing his jugular vein,[2] causing immediate massive blood loss.
Malarchuk's life was saved due to quick action by the Sabres' athletic trainer, Jim Pizzutelli, a former US Army combat medic who served in the Vietnam War. He gripped Malarchuk's neck and pinched off the artery, not letting go until doctors arrived to begin stabilizing the wound.
stuck falcon
Malarchuk then finished out the period scoring 2 more goals
tulip orbit
ha, no. but It took doctors a total of 300 stitches to close the six-inch wound.[10] He was back on the ice in ten days.
zinc matrix
So when I run around with two knives on my hands I'm a terrorist, but when I run with two knives on my feet, I'm just an ice skater
stuck falcon
Wow thats actually impressive
tulip orbit
yah
zinc matrix
Quite the story
charred rapids
Damn, that vet literally held his artery until doctors arrived, that's metal
tulip orbit
I heard it more gruesomely before...
but I wonder if they cleaned the ice after, or if they just called that "the red zone" for the rest of the game
tulip orbit
not sure how it freezes, I usually keep my jars at room temperature
shrug
I'm a collector not a scientist
bronze axle
Hi lounge.
It's certainly one of the most active.
If you go by number of messages sent, this is the #4 channel.
lol
Yeah I may as well put it above #rules.
So people know what we're really about.
No plans to add a meme channel.
Here's the top 5 sorted by number of messages.
#cpp is the busiest channel. It's not even close.
unreal cedar
lol, figures
bronze axle
Turns out a few programmers use Unreal.
Sorted by readers, #ue4-general is at the top (if you don't count #announcements).
cosmic dove
He's not wrong, but there is no way in hell that I'd trust Facebook (I refused to call them by their "new" name) to do that.
bronze axle
Yeah. It's one of the first channels new users see that they can chat in and get help.
night grove
What constitutes a "reader" vs a "chatter"?
bronze axle
I'm considering changing it. Our latest survey indicated that our onboarding/new user experience could really use an upgrade.
cosmic dove
Lurker vs Poster
night grove
Or maybe more appropriately, how is a subscriber to the server NOT considered a reader?
bronze axle
What constitutes a "reader" vs a "chatter"?
Reader = Saw a channel
Chatter = Sent a message in a channel
night grove
What kind of timeframe for the metric?
bronze axle
Last 28 days.
cosmic dove
Correction, to make sure the US Government feels safe.
night grove
Here's the top 5 sorted by number of messages.
@zinc matrix @ionic flame #cpp is winning guys!
bronze axle
True. Not sure yet, but one idea is to have general channels for each industry, e.g. game dev, film & tv, architecture, product visualization. Might help give more people a clear place to start.
bronze axle
What can I say; you guys are chatty. π
zinc matrix
Yeah but there's like 4 times as many people just watching this madness...
bronze axle
This has been one of the most constant channels since day 1.
night grove
All those metrics going to give me stage fright
bronze axle
This channel existed when we were on Slack. It's always been our off-topic channel.
cosmic dove
I always get scared that I'll be less productive if I get chatty on Discord
bronze axle
People need a place to relax, to vent, etc.
bronze axle
I always get scared that I'll be less productive if I get chatty on Discord
Me too.
cosmic dove
But then again... I'm not all that productive anyway right now. lol
night grove
People need a place to relax, to vent, etc.
This is super helpful for me actually
zinc matrix
This is secretly where we have the best advice
night grove
Being self employed it is nice to have somewhere to go to chat with other devs
bronze axle
I totally get that. I'm self employed too.
night grove
One day I'll actually pay myself!
bronze axle
I love hanging out with people on Discord because it's basically my virtual office.
And lounge is my watercooler.
bronze axle
Discord is a godsend for solo devs, especially during the pandemic.
cosmic dove
Currently have a non-dev day job myself. Hoping that'll change someday!
charred rapids
Back in the day it used to be IRC, now everything is discord
bronze axle
I remember.
I was a regular on IRC for a while.
The Unreal channel is part of what inspired me to create Unreal Slackers.
night grove
How did the transition from Slack to Discord happen?
charred rapids
I used to lurk IRC a lot back in the day
bronze axle
How did the transition from Slack to Discord happen?
A summer full of research, free trials, lots of emails, and careful planning.
cosmic dove
It's too easy to just make servers in Discord
bronze axle
Once I got in touch with someone at Discord, it became clear this was the right choice.
cosmic dove
I have to keep pruning my list.
bronze axle
I prune mine a lot.
I don't like to have too many that I'm not actively participating in, unless I get vital updates from it.
cosmic dove
agreed
night grove
https://medium.com/@polymoon/unreal-slackers-is-moving-to-discord-c93492eb0612
Nice info, thanks for sharing that... again!
bronze axle
The migration was a very good experience overall.
Slack was getting to be a real pain.
Discord's interests were aligned with ours.
night grove
That article gives great contrast to another - still slack - community I'm part of
It's basically dead because of many of the limitations you mentioned
bronze axle
It's basically dead because of many of the limitations you mentioned
I believe it. When I first started Unreal Slackers, making a community on Slack was getting quite trendy.
But we all soon ran into these limitations and it just became ridiculous.
I reached out to Slack multiple times, but the answer was always "You're welcome to use it this way, but we'll never support it. We're focused on businesses."
night grove
It is pretty funny that both Slack and Discord have heavy roots in game technologies
bronze axle
Isn't it?
night grove
Slack was originally the internal chat from a (failed) MMO
So weird they would dive headfirst into a business focus like that
Given their more community oriented start
bronze axle
Yeah. They pivoted hard.
night grove
I think they have a newish CEO that lead that direction
bronze axle
They're full on enterprise now.
night grove
I find it even more seeing non-game development businesses use slack
bronze axle
Discord, meanwhile, has been releasing killer features pretty regularly.
night grove
Some of the people I've talked to are anti-game developer, and they seem shocked to hear Slack's roots
night grove
Discord, meanwhile, has been releasing killer features pretty regularly.
I worry about how they will handle bots
bronze axle
Why's that?
night grove
When the phone registration was briefly required I had privacy concerns
But from a purely technical perspective it makes the most sense
technical / logistical
bronze axle
Ah yeah.
cosmic dove
Huh, did not know Slack had origins in game-dev
night grove
Most the assets for the MMO went open source
I forget the MMO name or the license terms though
It was a sprite based game, so not particularly useful for me
bronze axle
You guys remember OpenFeint?
zinc matrix
why are there no pc games with ads? see mobile games
night grove
This is a very good point
bronze axle
OpenFeint was a social network for mobile gaming, with an SDK for achievements, friends, etc.
night grove
OpenFeint was founded by Jason Citron,[2] who later founded Discord.
bronze axle
That's what Discord made before they pivoted to make a game called Fates Forever.
night grove
I can wiki stuff!
bronze axle
Like Slack, Discord started out as the chat for a failed game.
night grove
My previous job was in the medical industry
The peeps there were so hard anti game dev
I often wondered why they hired me
It was tough
Even as developers they fell prey to the fallacious thinking that because games are (generally) easy to play that makes them easy to develop
We don't want to include that type of UI because people will think this software is a video game!
I'm not really sure why tbh
It isn't just there though. I've seen the sentiment in several non-game dev interviews
The guy that hired me was very pro game developer because he knew most of us have WAY more experience (given the number hours worked) than the clock punching corporate types.
night grove
We don't want to include that type of UI because people will think this software...
They said this when I recommended briefly flashing a critical UI element to draw attention in certain contexts
Most their UI was flat 90s style stuff
I do too
I thought working in medical would help that... not so much.
I just muscled it down when watching a few surgeries for training purposes
I'm sure you get numb to it eventually
bronze axle
Almost 200 people signed up for the launch so far. Pretty excited. π
I might have to share a tease at 200.
Or not. Ahh I dunno.
night grove
Is that a plug to get the next submission?
bronze axle
No, I just wanted to share my excitement.
Been looking forward to this for a long time.
Also, shout out to Tally. Awesome form building app.
Definitely liking it more than Google Forms so far.
scarlet cedar
#cpp gets derailed from time to time, probably as much as any other channel, but as soon as a help post or whatever comes through it gets back on track
quasi mantle
I can only assume they underestimate what it takes to make games, even serious ones. Those people typically never actually play video games (maybe some casual ones but that's it)
regal pecan
Prejudicial against childishness. Probably how they were raised.
Wonder if they like sports, or mock it for playing with a toy.
night grove
Some of them were boomers that think games are childish
Some thought games were lesser because they artificially simulate real life scenarios. IE: Surgeon simulator would never prepare you to ACTUALLY perform surgery.
zinc matrix
does rtx has a function which detects sunrays?
thick belfry
Almost 200 people signed up for the launch so far. Pretty excited. π
What's this?
zinc matrix
What's this?
its a chat like discord
quasi mantle
Some of them were boomers that think games are childish
Being that I used to work with event organising company with corporate client, I know full well what goes into their mind.
night grove
Haha
zinc matrix
me in 20 years
quasi mantle
They only judge things based on the result, not what it takes to create one
zinc matrix
just less cool
quasi mantle
Which is why corporate clients are notorious for unreasonable deadline and don't plan ahead of time.
night grove
Get the right corporate clients and π€
zinc matrix
is u japanese?
quasi mantle
Get the right corporate clients and π€
Unfortunately marketing would disagree with you hard, real hard.
cursive crypt
corporate clients ... don't plan ahead of time
yeah, no
It is just complex machine and there are many moving parts - people mostly.
There are people whose only work is to plan and coordinate stuff.
night grove
I've not been on the receiving end, but I have seen other companies getting paid stupid money because they can fix shortsighted / poorly planned corporate decisions.
quasi mantle
yeah, no
Yes, they do. I've been on the receiving end for dozen or more clients.
Hate to brag, but they often request for something big, done in less than a week. Only saving grace was from lesser corpos.
night grove
I've heard "who can we throw money at to make this problem go away" more than once in my career
quasi mantle
I used to work as (motion) graphic designer and getting virtual production for corpo clients through an event organiser company. Their deadlines were brutal and unreasonable, I consider myself lucky if I don't crunch through night time or weekends.
quasi mantle
Getting VP for them was even harder. I had to face many rejection, and don't have time for making a working template.
night grove
It is a different story if you are providing a longer term solution
Or was this more for creating marketing material?
quasi mantle
Or was this more for creating marketing material?
That, and also building graphical elements for the events.
night grove
That, and also building graphical elements for the events.
Sounds like you were working more with the marketing side of corporate. The R&D side is a whole different story.
cursive crypt
Yes, they do. I've been on the receiving end for dozen or more clients.
Hate to...
they often request for something big, done in less than a week
haha, yeah, that not so unusual. However, it is not because they don't plan, I repeat. If you are talking from your experience, mine is near two decades in corpo environment.
Of course, there is not exactly a template of what it is actually.
quasi mantle
> they often request for something big, done in less than a week
haha, yeah, th...
I'm NOT saying they don't plan at all.
I'm implying that their thoughts were like "It's just a bunch of short videos, should be able to be done in less than a week"
Not specific to videos, but I hope I get across my point.
cursive crypt
Can't comment on specific case, I just put a remark on what appeared as hard generalization.
quasi mantle
If not, then my sleep deprivation be damned.
cursive crypt
Go sleep, tho I didn't do that well too last night, lol.
deep copper
you think people who don't understand game dev effort would understand effort for organising events etc? they are just not familiar enough, this is why lower level managers (in the chain of command) that interact directly with the technician or worker often should have the skill/understanding of the "person they are giving work to" as well, but again, it's just theoretically good, that's not what they do in most corps often, i think you just had the short end of the stick with this. like ryobg and chromatic said, they are familiar with R&D of their own corps etc so they are more reasonable there
quasi mantle
you think people who don't understand game dev effort would understand effort fo...
I guess I'm just unlucky that I get the fucking marketing
But then again, marketing often looking for shortest time possible while getting as much as possible. With R&D, I guess they allow you to take your time doing R&D stuff and get things done according to the goals. But then R&D's job isn't to make a marketable video or arranging (virtual) events.
And then again, the event organiser company I used to work with don't have a dedicated R&D team either.
deep copper
the R&D stuff is constantly happening, so they need to be efficient at it in the long term (working on margin with lots of equipment, having motivated employees to maintain consistent productivity, implying less pressing deadlines is a must) the managers and heads they hire are also supposed to understand that task well, and make that task efficient (meaning they may not have studied/focused/known marketting at all if they are hired for knowledge about other things, which is common because "industry experience for 'the task' > heavy knowledge about management/marketing/forecasting" for many medium/small sized corps), and for marketting events etc, it's supposed to be a one time thing to those corpse, even if they mess it up, it won't be a big deal, and they can shove the blame on third party if it goes wrong in cases where they hire others. and how bad can it get? just a small delay to them right? no big loss/risk (as compared to risky R&D things). again, if they are hiring short term teams for marketing, i can imagine they don't have teams dedicated to it much to began with, even if they do, they are hiring probably because they got themselves into a mess and need extra hands to get it done early (they are already delayed), or maybe they think the "experts can handle it easily, quickly and better than them" which might be why the deadlines are insane for you. and, like you said, there's also the psychology of "it's just a short video right?" and I can't imagine companies permanently hiring someone for that "short video" reason, and if they hire anyone on short term, they have already been brainwashed into thinking it can be done easily/quickly thanks to "technological advances"
cursive crypt
ArtStation as always has these peculiar discounts of 32 cents mostly.
deep copper
maybe they like 32
trail wedge
Here's the top 5 sorted by number of messages.
poor #slate .... where questions go to die indeed
fleet tangle
I try to answer some π¦
deep copper
I try to answer some π¦
the Messiah
fleet tangle
What I dislike about slate is that it's not consistent with UMG.
zinc matrix
oh really?
fleet tangle
I hadn't touched it in about 5 years when I applied for my current job and the "show us how cool you are" was to use Slate to make Mine Sweeper. That was definitely a re-learning experience.
fleet tangle
Lol
deep copper
hey.. as long as it works right?
zinc matrix
That EasyBallistics plugin is so good
fleet tangle
Man, starting out with MP in UE is just wrong. There's so much you need to learn everywhere else before you dive into MP
And never, ever try to convert your SP test project into MP. There be dragons.
deep copper
not your fault, many online ue4 tuts for multiplayer made it seem like a 1 day process
zinc matrix
And never, ever try to convert your SP test project into MP. There be dragons.
Yep...
If you want MP do it from the start
deep copper
not your fault, many online ue4 tuts for multiplayer made it seem like a 1 day p...
for beginners, not to mention
zinc matrix
but not from the start of your ue4 career XD
deep copper
they probably meant beginers in MP not beginner ue
fleet tangle
I definitely think UE suffers from a lack of clear class role definitions. Especially when it comes to viewports.
zinc matrix
Once you understand replication it gets a bit easier, but some stuff you need to mess about with
fleet tangle
You need a whole async mindset to work with mp. Most people can't wrap their head around it in web-based programming. They aren't going to get it in UE very quickly.
deep copper
You need a whole async mindset to work with mp. Most people can't wrap their hea...
i think blueprint also suffers from that, non programmers find it hard to understand, and articles advertise that as "get started without programming"
zinc matrix
I have some multiplayer stuff working, I just need to figure out how to select characters, spawn them, create sessions etc. which is the most challenging for me personally
deep copper
feels cozy
fleet tangle
i think blueprint also suffers from that, non programmers find it hard to unders...
Absolutely. I keep having this discussion with my colleagues and I always end up saying, "anyone who works with UE needs some basic understanding of programming if they ever intend to use BPs, even if they're artists."
And they need to know the difference between actors and components.
deep copper
i went to #blueprint a while back and the issues they have there is lack of understanding of programming
zinc matrix
I started off blueprint without knowing how to program. I can do a bit of programming but am still not very good
I would like to for other purposes
But I wouldn't make a whole game with code tbh
fleet tangle
I'd suggest learning java or something, it's very strict (whereas c and cpp can get very wild) and it'll give you a good base to program with bps.
zinc matrix
eh
deep copper
I started off blueprint without knowing how to program. I can do a bit of progra...
i was the same, but then i took my time off and learned python because web stuff and then coming back felt so much, better? i don't understand strict languages yet but that helped a ton
zinc matrix
i was the same, but then i took my time off and learned python _because web stuf...
Similar to me, I had to know how to use CSS and SQL, not gamedev related, but give you an idea about how it all works I guess
fleet tangle
Just don't learn on non strict-untyped language, like php or something. Php makes you bad at programming.
zinc matrix
There is a cicada on my headphone cable
deep copper
i looked into it once
deep copper
There is a cicada on my headphone cable
in the cable?
fleet tangle
in php you can do $myvar = 8 or $myvar = "moo" or $myvar = new MyClass()
fleet tangle
You can make it more strict, but by default you can just do whatever you like and it makes you lazy and means you don't understand what's going on.
deep copper
that's the same in python too i think, like you can just, label anything with the variable, it works on labeling stuff (dynamically typed?) but strict stuff is that which has variables that are a pain to change the type of, from what i understand, right?
fleet tangle
You can't change the type of the vars, but you can change how the data the vars point to is viewed/interpretted.
deep copper
in strict right?
fleet tangle
That's something else you need to understand with programming, vars aren't their values, they're a pointer to a value in memory.
deep copper
yes, that's a concept which took me a while, but it's so abusable in python
they don't have issues changing the type too
from what i have heard though, in C also has fancy pointer stuff with * or **
fleet tangle
Tbh, any programming language that lets you assign 2 completely disparate values to the same variable need to die in a fire.
You know what I said about a variable being a pointer to memory?
deep copper
haha, it's a bad programming practice as per pep (python enhancement proposals) i think
fleet tangle
For every * you add another level of indirection
So you get a pointer to a bit of memory that holds the location of another bit of memory
deep copper
you mean, you can redirect things more?
fleet tangle
With 2 stars, it's a pointer to a bit of memory that holds the location of another bit of memory that holds the location of another bit of memory that holds your data
deep copper
so a triple redirect?
fleet tangle
Pretty much.
deep copper
single * meaning double redirect
fleet tangle
Though you tend to ignore the first "redirect" as it's an intrinsic part of the variable.
deep copper
but, what's the use? can't normal labels (variables) help?
why is redirecting needed?
like double / triple
fleet tangle
Well, the difference in c with variables and pointers to variables is that pointers can be null (zero)
fleet tangle
A non-pointer variable always points to a valid bit of data (unless you do silly things)
But with a pointer, you can point it to nothing (null) so it has no data
deep copper
ah alright, then why triple redirect?
and that makes it seem like variables are just for validating there is always a value wherever it points
fleet tangle
Well, let's say you have a function that returns a value - but that value might be null, so you'd return a pointer type (so you can either return null or a pointer to actual data)
But what if that data itself is a pointer?
So you'd have a pointer to a pointer...
deep copper
okay okay, so a pointer can't point to a pointer
fleet tangle
It can.
fleet tangle
That's what int** does, for instance, it's a pointer to a pointer to an int
deep copper
just to be clear, is this also a thing in C++?
fleet tangle
Yes.
You can think of c++ as c... with more. Mostly it's all the object oriented stuff.
deep copper
and python is based on C, i wonder if it also handles those internally π€
fleet tangle
It probably does, yes.
deep copper
i think, nearly all variables of python are just a ** then
wait
is a pointer also strictly linked to a type?
deep copper
then python is doing way more background changes everytime i switch the type i guess lol
fleet tangle
Yeah.
It gets all kinds of fun when you try to reinterpret (or cast) those pointers to different types.
Or there's the system whereby you can have the same data represented by 2 different data structures
I think that's a union? I haven't used it in ages.
fleet tangle
Well, let's say you have a int32 type in c, that's 4 bytes, right?
deep copper
It gets all kinds of fun when you try to reinterpret (or cast) those pointers to...
and what can "reinterpret" mean?
fleet tangle
You can use a union to access that data as either a striaght up int32 or as a byte array
deep copper
is it like conversion?
fleet tangle
and what can "reinterpret" mean?
This is where the disconnect between variables and memory comes in
(this follows from the same thing, patience!)
You can think of variable type as... erm.. a description or way of looking at the data in memory.
deep copper
ah, i think i just figured out the purpose of strict typing
fleet tangle
By casting the variable to something else (this doesn't change the variable, it just changes how the data in memory is viewed)
deep copper
haha it's such a nice feeling when things click
fleet tangle
So you can take an int32, technically, and view it as an array of 4 bytes.
deep copper
that makes a lot of sense now
fleet tangle
There's a whole other layer of shit on this when you come to object oriented programming.
deep copper
for python, it seems to be storing the type and "guessing" what we give it i guess
fleet tangle
And this is totally separate to how casting numbers usually works in c/c++
deep copper
haha thanks for the patient explaination, i finally understand the purpose of pointers and reinterpretting the same data
is that the same way bp casts in ue work?
or different terms?
fleet tangle
if you have a float, for instance, and you cast it to a double, it doesn't change "how it's viewed" it actually gives you new data in the new double format.
unless you specifically do reinterpret_cast
fleet tangle
It won't change the original, it will assign a new temporary bit of memory with new data
deep copper
to be clear, it either allocates more or deallocates ?
quasi mantle
I still have hard time wrapping my head around even Assembly 6502
I wished there are at least C cross compilers for retro computers and consoles
fleet tangle
If you cast from float to double (using standard c-casts (double) or static_cast<double>) it will allocate more data
deep copper
that makes sense, if i cast that to say, int or something does it go less?
fleet tangle
How and where it does that, that's a bit beyond my understanding, tbh. It's probably in the cpu cache somewhere.
deep copper
don't worry I don't think i should be jumping into those yet haha
fleet tangle
Again, unless you do reinterpret_cast, it will always allocate more memory when you cast a number, no matter what you cast it to
Hell, it might even do it with reinterpret_cast, I honestly have no idea.
Sorry, we did get a bit "off topic"
deep copper
Hell, it might even do it with reinterpret_cast, I honestly have no idea.
ah, is that perhaps, to temporarily change a smaller precision thing to a bigger one for calculations? but going smaller isn't really needed because loss of precision, unless you want to convert it to something lower with reinterpretting and casting
haha
fleet tangle
ah, is that perhaps, to temporarily change a smaller precision thing to a bigger...
Basically, yeah, you could do that, but if this is your level of cpp, never, ever use reinterpret_cast
It will give unexpected results.
quasi mantle
And I will install Windows if I have my hands on one.
deep copper
It will give unexpected results.
ah i see, alright
quasi mantle
They say Linux is about choice, but I'm expecting hypocrisy from Linux fanboys crying over people who rigged Windows in Steam Deck.
Yeah, it's a shame. Assembly was and still is my weak point tbh
cursive crypt
deep copper
small steps for old lorash, giant leap for young lorash
quasi mantle
I guess that was my mistake then
fleet tangle
Wow that reminded me of ramdisks.
deep copper
haha i am also just reading about what they are exactly talking about on google lol, it's rather confusing even there, assembly 6502 leads me to MOS 6502, 47 years ago, 1Mhz - 3Mhz clock speed
it does have lots of noteable things
median wraith
GooD MoArnInG
deep copper
the 6502 was the least expensive microprocessor on the market by a considerable margin. It initially sold for less than one-sixth the cost of competing designs from larger companies, such as the 6800 orΒ Intel 8080. Its introduction caused rapid decreases in pricing across the entire processor market. Along with theΒ Zilog Z80, it sparked a series of projects that resulted in theΒ home computerΒ revolutionΒ of the early 1980s.
deep copper
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502 there's such a long history there too, just tells how much impactful this was
ah, it's iconic
z80 came an year later and it has 2.5, 4, 6, 8Β MHz to 10Β MHz with CMOS variant up to 20 MHz and binary compatible derivatives (from Zilog) up to 33 and 50 MHz
isn't that way too fast compared to 3 Mhz?
for an year?
ah, i was wondering why Z80 doesn't have anything notable, other than being the first product of zilog company
it also has a bit more but I don't get the significance much
"cloned"?
so a replica of sorts?
oh, they weren't competing with these chips, right?
also, 6502 is still in production, a revised one, neat
it's used a lot
Though, due to the collapse of Soviet microelectronics in the late 1980s, there are many more T34BM1s than ΠΠ 1858ΠΠ1s. didn't think i would ever hear of the word "Soviet Microelectronics" lol
1-14 Mhz, these have quite some unique features, selectable 8 bit /16bit mode and what note
not*
39 years ago, it's not that old, but old enough
Minicomputers were developed in the 1960s as midrange computers, which boasted relatively high processing speed, but at a significantly smaller size and price compared to larger mainframe and supercomputers. But don't let the word "small" fool you. Some minicomputers still stood over 6 feet and weighed upward of 700 pounds.
6 feet, man
i have been reading about x/y for a while now in this, let's see...
ah, i see i see, it seems like modern regular cpu have a lot more registers, because it's bringing up way more than A X Y haha
deep copper
okay, in the 6502 there's, A , X Y, and a stack pointer (SP), but also program counter (PC) and, something else I can't really type easily
`The Z80 also had a complete set of alternate registers, which made a total of sixteen general-purpose registers.
In order to make up somewhat for the lack of registers, the 6502 included aΒ zero-pageΒ addressing mode that uses one address byte in the instruction instead of the two needed to address the full 64Β KB of memory. This provides fast access to the first 256Β bytes of RAM by using shorter instructions. Chuck Peddle has said in interviews that the specific intention was to allow these first 256Β bytes of RAM to be used like registers.[citation needed]`
yes, they are grouped (A), (X,Y, SP), (PC), (the other thing) but it seems like A X Y are the main
it's grouped under" index registers"
haha it seems whoever wrote that table just wanted to group it up
ah, that's the last register, NV-BDIZC something
grouped under "status register" as processor flag
let me just, ss that
much easier than me describing lol
yeah it doesn't really looks all that useful
ah okay
right i think i found that The 6502's registers include one 8-bit accumulator register (A), two 8-bit index registers (X and Y), 7 processor status flag bits (P; from bit 7 to bit 0 these are the negative (N), overflow (V), reserved, break (B), decimal (D), interrupt disable (I), zero (Z) and carry (C) flag), an 8-bit stack pointer (S), and a 16-bit program counter (PC)
it seems like an interesting topic to dive into some day, but it feels quite, intense. mainly because of how developed those sound. like i will need about a few decades of prerequisite knowledge lol
you said 65816s were costly
alright, i am sold lol, thin books are fun
median wraith
do someone knows a marketplace thing or example or something for gliding/fly momentum ? etc
deep copper
nice, it's pretty much on every platform
noted
found this nearby wth
that sounds useful for a default
only 69 pages pdf, that's, tiny, the font is also not extremely small
foggy path
found this nearby wth
There are a few of these manga guides to things
like manga guide to databases etc.
they are actually pretty informative from what I've seen
deep copper
seriously?
foggy path
Yeah
deep copper
as a weeb, i might check one out someday
foggy path
θγγθ±εθͺγγγγ is probably my favorite of these for otaku type learning books, it's an english learning book and it's... very strange
deep copper
oh? interesting, i might check that out as well
foggy path
I mean you aren't going to find it useful in the slightest, but it's kinda funny in how weird some of the phrases it teaches are lol
deep copper
I mean you aren't going to find it useful in the slightest, but it's kinda funny...
...what kind of weird ?
torpid star
gotta hand it to Fabrice, fmmpeg, qemu, quickjs
imagine developing something so good SEVERAL times that the entire industry defaults to it
or maybe it's a case of "first"?
foggy path
@deep copper this kind of weird lol
basically it's just full of weird anime and manga tropes lol
deep copper
imagine developing something so good SEVERAL times that the entire industry defa...
that reminds me of this
foggy path
Yeah leftpad is so weird lol
deep copper
basically it's just full of weird anime and manga tropes lol
haha what in the world
that definately sounds like a good book to pass time with and figure some weird English out
quasi mantle
<@!926083750276780073> this kind of weird lol
I need to get my hands on this paper/slide.
deep copper
I need to get my hands on this paper/slide.
same
foggy path
it's a book called Moeru Eitango Moetan, I'm sure you can figure out the rest lol
quasi mantle
I won't order it from Amazon directly (certainly not on US Amazon) but I'm sure I can make a request to my dropshipper buddy to order it from Japan for me.
foggy path
leftpad is now standard in JS :P
so even less of a reason to have aa library for it...
deep copper
it gives a new meaning to web i guess, everything is dependent on each other lol, not just, connected
foggy path
that should be easy
even our app at work has only 1961 deps!
actually that number is probably wrong
it seems the command I used might list the same package multiple times
deep copper
oh, so 2048 is a decent limit
i am just trying to think devs going "okay how do we add a left pad to this", "let's use an external library"
foggy path
It's not unreasonable
npm works pretty well for managing deps so it's not such a big deal to add a package
more of a fault of such critical services not managing it properly than npm's imo :D
I think the only reason it's gotten such a bad rap is because it makes it so easy to add deps and create libs... and then you try to use package managers in other languages and it's so fucking painful
yeah
median wraith
Oh man the scales from market
quasi mantle
Oh man the scales from market
The humans must be at least 2 meters tall lmao
foggy path
Hevedy buying "furniture for giants" packs again?
deep copper
"again"?
and i remember explaining why size matters to someone and they just kept asking why after a few months again, perhaps forgetting, i will just send this next time
deep copper
You canΒ grill, bake or boil the rootΒ until it's tender. Once cooked, eating a cattail root is similar to eating the leaves of an artichoke β strip the starch away from the fibers with your teeth. The buds attached to the rhizomes are also edible!
didn't know it's a thing
quasi mantle
Well cattails can be eaten as medicine in some region
deep copper
that's medicinal?
foggy path
other parts of cats are eaten as well in some regions 
deep copper
i don't have premium emojies take that joy emote
Cattails also provide twoΒ forms of antiseptic; both the ashes from burned cattail leaves and the droplets of sap that form at the plant's base can be applied to wounds to keep them from getting infected. The sap can also be used on toothaches
thick belfry
Holy shit I'm at the orientation day of the college I wanna go to
And they have a screen like they use for the mandalorian
foggy path
...a green screen?
deep copper
Cattail tastes like a bitter cucumber and leaves a little bit of aftertaste for a while
rgb keyboard
thick belfry
And it simulates the correct t angle for the camera
deep copper
and that's a cool screen
thick belfry
Pretty neat
foggy path
Nice
I have a green screen but I've not used it for anything since I stopped streaming :P
deep copper
what was the streaming about?
foggy path
Games
I thought about doing some gamedev at some point but haven't gotten around to it :D
deep copper
ah, nice π
median wraith
Is that cubemaps?
the indoors you mean ?
thick belfry
Really excited for this college
cursive crypt
the indoors you mean ?
aye
deep copper
Really excited for this college
what all happened so far?
median wraith
Wait, what is the common thing?
with spiderman ? the cubemaps
Let's pretend Watchdogs didn't made it before and such+
cursive crypt
pff, clockcats
cursive crypt
It's a big one. But they definitely don't rely on selling volume.
ocean parcel
Hello everyone, how are you?
zinc matrix
Hello everyone, how are you?
Better than you.
median wraith
It's a big one. But they definitely don't rely on selling volume.
I really love all this makers having GTA music on their videos
cursive crypt
Gotta admit that there are also other games except GTA. Like Dark Souls for example.
zinc matrix
Dark souls is still a masterpiece
cursive crypt
Judging by the amount of copycats, yea
zinc matrix
They ain't "like" GTA
median wraith
GTA music? lol
I mean they add the whole radio playlist https://youtu.be/PK4AyrfI1yQ?list=PLwgHLQoJEyplknlyvI0cvFlj8tto5ovkw&t=933
included some songs that where made for GTA
median wraith
19:01 isn't that a GTA 4 only song ?
zinc matrix
I mean they add the whole radio playlist https://youtu.be/PK4AyrfI1yQ?list=PLwgH...
Is this worth USD 1500?
median wraith
I don't think so, but it depends
cursive crypt
It's a big one. But they definitely don't rely on selling volume.
^
median wraith
Like all the assets are usually underrated
Say some packs for 80β¬ I got cost a whole month of work todo
so should cost you 2000β¬ easy or whatever
by that logic this is underrated too but, compared to the rest is overrated
cursive crypt
rated
median wraith
+18
zinc matrix
19:01 isn't that a GTA 4 only song ?
LMAO they didnt just add a GTA4 soundtrack haha
ocean parcel
Better than you.
I'm sure you are.
deep copper
Hello everyone, how are you?
decent, what about you ? π
deep copper
Better than you.
oh? seems like you found someone for the passion project?
knotty skiff
Oh man the scales from market
Half-Life 2 door moment
teal trench
This is something that doesn't really fit into cpp channel,
do you guys keep ur commit messages as compact as possible or do you go crazy and make game patch notes level of commit messages?
foggy path
The standard way to do it is title that fits in one line, and as much info as you find useful in description
I usually have the title describe what the commit contains, and elaborate on any reasoning or specifics in description if it seems useful
Useful mostly in the sense that if I ever need to look at some piece of code and figure out why it exists I can look into the git logs to find out
foggy path
when you have to dig through git logs to find out reasons why things are there and such you stop adding commits with messages like "poop" lol
cursive crypt
kek
poop
wtf ponkkis
my git ocd
Statistically though, it was bound to happen π€
Emotionally, yeah.
thick belfry
what all happened so far?
We worked on a small unreal project and got to talk about our project with the teachers
deep copper
We worked on a small unreal project and got to talk about our project with the t...
that's quite neat, how do you feel?
thick belfry
Like I need playtesters for my project lol
Theyre quite competitive
It seems like a very good school
deep copper
Theyre quite competitive
that's a valuable place then
thick belfry
I was a bit worried because you hear bad stuff about game schools
But the program is 100% unreal
And they their graduates are in the gaming field over 80% of them
deep copper
I was a bit worried because you hear bad stuff about game schools
yeah i was also feeling a bit skeptical at first when you said it yesterday lol
deep copper
And they their graduates are in the gaming field over 80% of them
statistically, also sounds fair
i guess it can help you grow
goodluck!
median wraith
did we had some feature request form for UE4 ?
bronze axle
What's this?
The number of people who signed up to get notified when we launch our new website.
Good morning, lounge. π
deep copper
is manny going to get any new features btw?
bronze axle
Yes.
deep copper
!8ball are you going to get new features?
turbid spindleBOT
@deep copper, :8ball: Ask again later.
bronze axle
Manny is indeed getting an upgrade.
Separate project from the new website, but also coming soon.
deep copper
also #introductions say, manny is open source?
bronze axle
That's right. https://github.com/unreal-slackers/manny
bronze axle
I am, too. The next version will be quite significant.
deep copper
any spoilers ?
bronze axle
Slash commands, buttons, modals, and all sorts of modern Discord features that have launched recently.
median wraith
man the forums looks total broken to me
like there are only 2 tags ?
or I'm banned
whatever I search there are no results
oh now it moved at shows it
scenic glen
are there games or rather popular games on steam that are using listen servers? like they do not have their dedicated servers? Thank you
quasi mantle
are there games or rather popular games on steam that are using listen servers? ...
CSGO
Community servers with custom maps are pretty much listen servers.
scenic glen
CSGO
ow but thats less risky of disconnecting since they have "community servers" right?
I wanted to find out popular games that still uses the players as the servers. I am still learning multiplayer games at the moment and how it works on steam but definitely I do not have the budget of getting dedicated servers. So my only option is to give the responsibility to the players but the cost is that it will increase latency and chances of everyone disconnected if the host fails.hehe
foggy path
Yeah I don't think you really need to pay for servers
Listen servers worked in the days before broadband so they probably work now
:D
median wraith
beware of the movement replication errors on listen server
scenic glen
ow yeah, thanks for reminding me that. I assume the early L4D days where using that?
median wraith
who cares about that (there is a plugin to fix it I think)
scenic glen
beware of the movement replication errors on listen server
I did read about that in one of the basic replication tutorials on youtube but still replication is still floating in my mind given my basic BP understanding hehe
Good thing the first MP gameI am planning is only a small area π
quasi mantle
Also you would have to keep the netcode reasonable to get through even limited bandwidth.
You'd have to be more selective on what to replicate across.
foggy path
Is there a single networked game that's a bandwidth hog
scenic glen
You'd have to be more selective on what to replicate across.
its an FPS multi game 4 players max, with health, stamina, simple inventory and projectile on a sort of maze. Just going from point A to point B
quasi mantle
Is there a single networked game that's a bandwidth hog
Doom used to be bandwidth hog.
thick belfry
yeah i was also feeling a bit skeptical at first when you said it yesterday lol
Lots of people are but I did some research beforehand and looked at their partners/statistics and it is looking really good
But still reading about it isn't the same as being there
median wraith
Doom used to be bandwidth hog.
thank god we got game streaming now, and the network works in the server that stream us
deep copper
But still reading about it isn't the same as being there
yup, now you can be confident atleast
quasi mantle
That's for negating world origin rebasing...
I don't use origin rebasing, but I do plan on implementing co-op at some point
verbal junco
I applaud you for jumping into the abyss that is multiplayer setup
timber viper
At these days CPU consumption is more of a trouble compared to bandwith usage in listen server setups π
Poor host* has to replicate and update tons of variables and RPCs to other 7 players
zinc matrix
why is there no website where i can hire people who program for me who live in third world countries?
@median wraith^ and why is there no matchmaking solution in the marketplace?
foggy path
why is there no website where i can hire people who program for me who live in t...
Pretty much every single cold email I get from outsourcing companies is them selling developers in eastern europe or asia :P
zinc matrix
Pretty much every single cold email I get from outsourcing companies is them sel...
yeah..... sounds like spam or what?
if not, give me?
foggy path
I'm sure some of them are legit outsourcing companies but it's impossible to judge the quality, I just delete them so don't really have any at hand
(and not like we're looking to purchase outsourcing services anyway)
zinc matrix
outsourcing is entrepreneurship
median wraith
Pretty much every single cold email I get from outsourcing companies is them sel...
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT ME ???!
foggy path
lol
quasi mantle
why is there no website where i can hire people who program for me who live in t...
Because not every company can afford relocation.
Out of curiousity, where do you live?
foggy path
Tbh websites like freelancer.com are probably full of devs in LCL countries
zinc matrix
Because not every company can afford relocation.
Out of curiousity, where do yo...
oh im talking about not moving. just outsourcing
foggy path
in other words, we launch a bunch of garbage into orbit and pretend it's because it maintains a "sustainable space environment"
cursive crypt
Hmm.. I dunno
median wraith
Yeah these fall over spain
no joke
We are getting all the trash from Elon
Good news from the forum
verbal junco
lmao what a way to preface a "won't fix"
"good news, the emperor has bestowed you with an answer"
the emperor: "no"
median wraith
yeah
timber viper
It's not a bug iirc
It's a feature π To prevent network issues
Since a player hosting the match it different tick rates etc. can break the movement
Well but broken feature and a feature that protects your from something bad even if you dont want to is different things
:insertdancingbluemanhere:
median wraith
switching topics, didn't epic gave recently a solution to generate cities ?
night grove
switching topics, didn't epic gave recently a solution to generate cities ?
I want to know more about this! I will be looking into city generation in the near future.
cursive crypt
Are elves people or it is only humans? π€
grim pewter
Evening all, what are your thoughts on securing both the .com and .co.uk (or your local domain type) for your name for your portfolio? Would you just stick with the .com or do you think it's worth getting a second one?
Games industry. Averagely common, but already know of another couple of people in games industry with my name in my country
foggy path
It makes no difference whatsoever
As long as it's not some weird domain name / tld combo that confuses less techy people
95% of the time anyone will visit it is when they see the link in you resume, social media, or other such place
grim pewter
That's my thoughts. I'm not doing major freelance work at the moment, and I'm definitely not famous within the industry, far from it
cursive crypt
And you get 10 salaries?
deep copper
oh? tell me all 10 of them π π΅οΈ
unreal cedar
10 salaries of $0 each 
celest musk
would only grab the .co.uk if it's somehow related to you (e.g. you live and plan to apply for jobs in uk)
deep copper
CE, wordle unlimited so far
but there are some odd words
kelly doesn't seems to mean anything either, as per google, however dictionary .com says a man's stiff hat, as a derby or straw skimmer.
verbal junco
synod is pretty dastardly
deep copper
yeah there are a bunch of uncommon words
median wraith
HARRY HA HA HARRY
deep copper
and so far alien and a few other words repeated
median wraith
actually was halan or something
verbal junco
alan
deep copper
and yeah, most websites just show kelly as a name
The name Kelly is primarily a gender-neutral name of Irish origin that meansΒ Bright-headed. English form of the Irish surname, Γ Ceallaigh.
cosmic dove
Can't view anything at the link, what's it supposed to be?
median wraith
Can't view anything at the link, what's it supposed to be?
it takes to load
tulip orbit
just back and forth? endless Redirecting in 3...2...
I can barely afford a single domain/host
foggy path
that gta map thingy is about 330mb
expected it to be more
are you one of those people who use mibibytes
tulip orbit
stop it ue5, you're drunk.
zinc matrix
You mean the way you input an output?
tulip orbit
There should only be ONE output in that function, but I have 4 for some reason