lounge

[wicked saddle]

Agreed project deadlines do work, they light that fire under you. What doesn't work is management that set unrealistic expectations, or do not listen to their staff when making them.

Your personal to-do list, however. That's on you fren ;3

[narrow patrol]

Fair. I guess it's an intentional decision to not plan too far ahead.
But it's weird when a month ago, there were 17 things on your to-do list, and you did 15 things, and so now there's 25 things on your to-do list

It's heartening to hear it does trend down eventually

[wicked saddle]

But if you're going for real-talk. Scheduling is the only component you're missing for your to-do list. It's not reasonable to try and do 25 things in one day. It's also not reasonable to try and do them as quick as possible either. Break them down, plan maybe 5-8 things a day, and go with it then. That's literally how most project management software works. Tasks are limited to amount of "workable hours".

[wicked saddle]

Yeah, this just sounds like scope creep. Are they actually things you need to do, or are you satisfied with whatever it is as "shippable/good enough", if not, put them on a new day, do them sometime during the week. Seriously, it'll avoid burn out.

[last matrix]

you'll have new things pop up, like bugs, as you work, thats normal. the point is to keep track of it so you can see how you progress. its motivating to see that work is getting done and it gives you a sense of the workload you've given yourself for a project

[wicked saddle]

Oh, that's a really good point. Bugs split out from your task list. Tasks are things you need to get done, Bugs are generally fixed whenever you have time. So record them seperately.

[narrow patrol]

That's a good idea, I should do that

But doesn't it all need to be prioritized together at the end of the day? Like you sit down, you gotta choose what to work on. Bugs are tasks in that sense

[wicked saddle]

Bugs have a different priority type, usually. High to low priority. You fix them whenever you can, but generally most things ship with still a ton of low priority bugs.

They're usually not time-sensitive, if there is a bug that needs to be fixed by a certain date, say a game breaking one, it's turned into a task.

[narrow patrol]

I mean, I have no timeline, intentionally

[wicked saddle]

That's.. kind of your problem though.

You have to ship eventually.

No timeline, no problem, no need to call it finished, keep working on it for 6 years.

I believe the phrase goes: No game is ever perfected, only abandoned. :p

[narrow patrol]

Then again, what was that Miyamoto quote, "A game that gets delayed is eventually good, a game that gets rushed is bad forever"

[wicked saddle]

You're being to ambiguous about it. A game that never has a deadline is likely to stay in development hell forever, with a perfectionist. :p

[narrow patrol]

But I take your point. it's quite possible I'm being too perfectionistic about this. I've refactored and fixed things just because they were pissing me off and no one else

[wicked saddle]

Yep, I think you're right about it.

Take what you've learned about writing a class in such a way, document it. Use that instead when developing a new class, on the next project.

Because you can refactor all day, but when you do that, you've to change 5 other systems to work with that change.

When it was perfectly working before. So it's, well, "shippable".

[narrow patrol]

Alright, tomorrow I've gotta get Really Real about my task list it seems. Thanks for the advice.

[wicked saddle]

And remember, a bug is generally something that affects the player, not the developer ;3

e.g: noticeable in the end product.

[wicked saddle]

Not a problem, darling ❤️

[last matrix]

ah right, thats why duke nukem ended up being so good... because it was delayed 10 years

[wicked saddle]

XD

[narrow patrol]

I mean, the sunk cost fallacy is also a thing 😛

[wicked saddle]

Very much is :p

I spent an entire evening going through logical fallacies once. There's a million of them that are super interesting.

The perfectionist fallacy is similar to the false dilemma fallacy. False dilemma argues that there are only two possible options for a situation; whereas the perfectionist fallacy suggests two options for finding a perfect solution, and then rejects alternatives that will not work perfectly.

[narrow patrol]

Guilty. The phrase I've also heard is, "the perfect is the enemy of the good"

[pearl compass]

the perfect is the enemy of the good seems incorrect. I feel it is: Dont let perfect be the enemy of good.

[last matrix]

almost, but its not perfect yet

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ-vLt_0nhE&ab_channel=%24uicideboy%24-Topic

😼

feels like opening a portal every time

need a cleansing every time lol

[fluid bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Es2sb_DG8&

[thick belfry]

"Except for my videos" lol

[fluid bloom]

@thick belfry can't see any tutorials in his videos? 🤔

[thick belfry]

What do you mean?

[fluid bloom]

I mean I don't understand the "except for my videos" line 😄

[thick belfry]

I mean he's totally right that a lot of videos don't teach concepts very well but saying that's true for all videos except his is a bit much lol

His description says except for my videos

[fluid bloom]

ah 😄

[thick belfry]

He explains things very clearly though

Not bashing the video just the description

[wicked saddle]

Eh, It's marketing 101. A tiny bit controversial introduces clicks, whether or not he's right.

[thick belfry]

I know it's marketing, and I find it shallow and uninspired marketing 🙅‍♂️

[wicked saddle]

Works though.

Clickbaiting still clicks. And hasn't gone away yet in a decade of YouTube.

[thick belfry]

Who reads the description in order to see if a video is right for them tho 🤔

Usually the clickbait is in the title

Doesn't matter too much I just found it a grating statement

[wicked saddle]

Descriptions are a bit like a last chance, Thumbnail first, title second. Title might make people want to read the description.

Yeah it's grating, I agree.

[quasi mantle]

I felt like the whole flat earth shenanigans are people who take video game logic way too seriously lol

[lucid walrus]

🥱

[median wraith]

It takes more to me to import it

[quasi mantle]

🤫

[left granite]

XD

well ok ig

[knotty skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/871351794394091540/933356969731981322/50DBBA64-3CD3-4960-B6A4-1C167BD6D14B-1.jpg

[primal spoke]

What is the best game you've played similar to like Anno 1800 or Tropico?

[urban tartan]

i could boat to china and back and i'll still only be down to 2,000

[quasi mantle]

What kind of strategy game is Anno?

[foggy path]

Hearthlands is similar and pretty good. Maybe some games in the Caesar and Pharaoh series as well

[quasi mantle]

Before you boat to china, increase Shader Compile Worker processes priorities to high.

[primal spoke]

Its like a city builder type game, but I'm sure there are more accurate descriptions for it.

[primal spoke]

I will check it out.

[quasi mantle]

I guess it's closer to Civ as opposed to SimCity?

[foggy path]

it's kinda like a city building / resource management game so maybe a bit more like civ

[foggy path]

you build a city but you also need to set up industries to collect materials like wood and stone, and for example farms to collect wool, which is then woven at a weaver to clothes which then allows the city houses to upgrade

and some other things like that

[quasi mantle]

Well, one obvious thing is strategy games aren't my jam

[foggy path]

Yeah it's a lot more relaxed in pace

[median wraith]

https://unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/stack-o-bot

Oh look Epic imported the Unity 2021 example

[carmine frigate]

@primal spoke i played the settlers 2, none of the newer versions tho

also there is lord of the underworld wich is more of a remake of dungeon keeper

[foggy path]

1Password apparently got 680 million in funding from investors recently

...gotta really wonder what the hell do they expect to happen with that money

[verbal junco]

blank is a quality template

[quasi mantle]

Nothing is more intimidating than a blank space
And the masochistic adrenaline kicks in

Blank space triggers like 95% of my creative-block in my brain

Often times when I see blank space, I went "what the fuck am I supposed to do here"

[verbal junco]

that's why structure is important 😔 don't let yourself be stuck in blank space

[burnt lake]

city skylines

[primal spoke]

I was thinking about that one

[turbid spindle]

@ionic flame, :8ball: Yes.

[primal spoke]

🙋‍♂️

[quasi mantle]

Even when I have the structure and shit planned out, I sat down, and my mind went blank.

Then I walk away to the restroom again.

[verbal junco]

poetic

[last matrix]

the more alloys the better

[verbal junco]

I protect my phone with a faraday cage

[last matrix]

i usually keep my phone in the oven

[verbal junco]

nice I hear the signal gets better when they're "warmed up"

[last matrix]

then i should run my oven in reverse, to weaken the signal

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur-bITIVeBY&ab_channel=TheRelaxingEnd

i wonder how much it cost to make it

5-10$ max

?

[quasi mantle]

Famiclones are dirt cheap to make, not to mention counterfeit ROM bundles are practically free.

[last matrix]

floccinaucinihilipilification is also dirt cheap

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-time-to-stop-stop-sign-gif-15407592

[quasi mantle]

Lest it was less valuable than Churches in the old centuries could get from antidisestablishmentarianism movement

Probably

[wicked saddle]

Ah, working on stream branding is fun, and amazingly time consuming..

[regal pecan]

Campfire, rocket flares, or dancing lava lamps?

[verbal junco]

rare dancing yellow pine trees

[last matrix]

its as mesmerizing as #lounge message eyes

[zinc matrix]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1563730/Witching_Hour/

Steam

Witching Hour

Every small town has its secrets, but some are worse than others...Witching Hour is a horror story that takes you out of your family home and across Hollow Hills to face its dark history of witchcraft. Your fate depends on making difficult choices, your relationship with your father and sister, and confrontations with the matriarch of the town’s...

Release Date

Mar 2022

▶ Play video

nice demo

but heavy on gpu

[last matrix]

this is the version where they go meme crazy right?

my mistake, i think im thinking of re7

thats the meme game

[zinc matrix]

not bad lol

[last matrix]

goty material

[dim palm]

So I’ve been working on a steampunk animation project in which the main character is a mechanical engineer, and I decided the other day that she should have a music box

This would’ve been the perfect opportunity to play the Toreador Song, and here I am passing it up for the sake of consistency

I’m creating an entirely fictional world rather than alt history, so songs that we know irl wouldn’t make much sense

[quasi mantle]

Weren't steampunk fantasy stories entirely fictional?

I felt like it's a bit different from the industrial stuff (e.g. Red Dead Redemption)

[dim palm]

I’m sure that there’s an alt history approach somewhere out there

[last matrix]

i thought the general notion of steampunk is that it's an alternate time line around the victorian era where we didn't discover electricity and instead stuck to coal power

[verbal junco]

might have to get an RTX for this

[dim palm]

My setting is currently equivalent to the 1890s. I say equivalent because it’s technically the same point in time, but the calendar is different

[quasi mantle]

Well, if you want to make industrial alt history, then that's the route. It's what RDR2 does.

[dim palm]

I’m using the start of recorded history as a reference, so I added 2500 years. The story’s starting off in 4396 as a result

[quasi mantle]

And with steampunk, widespread electricity isn't really a thing

[last matrix]

steam is widespread

[verbal junco]

just like in real life

[last matrix]

only in nyc

[verbal junco]

I think I prefer silkpunk these days

or solarpunk

[last matrix]

meatpunk is where its at

[verbal junco]

personofculture.gif

[last matrix]

i believe you

[dim palm]

I’ve been thinking about my approach to electricity. In this case, the first electrical grid is less than 2 decades old

[quasi mantle]

I prefer steampunk a la Final Fantasy 6
I found middle age european fantasy to be way too restrictive, especially for existence of firearms and mech suits to actually make sense

[verbal junco]

just have everything mimic the thief universe

steampunk but not

need a reason to use artificial intelligence? WHY NOT

need magic? WHY NOT

[last matrix]

now thief is a great setting, so great - during the dark ages makes it so perfect to play with ideas

[verbal junco]

need electricity? no that's too powerful

[verbal junco]

aye thief really immerses you in the setting

[last matrix]

thats eerie, but i also meant because you've been working on your moon azimuth system

[verbal junco]

I played thief 1 like 10 years ago and even with its potato graphics it scared the living daylights out of me

[quasi mantle]

If you want futuristic magic fantasy, then FF13

And I do want to explore that side of fantasy RPG later

[last matrix]

indeed a cult classic, introduced me to one of the best word - taffer

[verbal junco]

what was the guard with the special voice known as? I forget

he's in every thief game

[quasi mantle]

Not in my current project, I have settled Past Future 1 to be steampunk anime fantasy

[last matrix]

iirc, most of the male voices was the same person, i wanna say garret did all of them, but there might have been 2, dont quote me, but they were seriously limited on voice actors

[dim palm]

Fun fact, by the way - my world has a ring system

[verbal junco]

no I mean fanwise there is a guard that has a name

[last matrix]

oh

[verbal junco]

Benny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wf3yZWsbo

[last matrix]

yooo

half the game right there

[verbal junco]

the exposition is top notch

[dim palm]

So are there any steampunk stories set in the Pacific Northwest

That’s what I’m using as a reference

[verbal junco]

I don't know. I don't even know how the pacific northwest would look in a hypothetical steampunk scenario

probably quite devoid of housing all things considered

[last matrix]

i dont even know where that is 🤓

lol nvm, its where i thought it was

[verbal junco]

I guess there's a reason why steampunk is mostly focused on europe

because it's sort of where it originated

[last matrix]

i dunno, im sure there were other movements happening around the same time

victorian curtains + brass gears just seems to be the usual

[verbal junco]

sure, where civilization was prospering

at the time america was still building up

[last matrix]

native americans were definitely prospering

[verbal junco]

without access to neither steam nor punk

[last matrix]

horsepunk

maizepunk

[quasi mantle]

pipepunk

[last matrix]

i guess you could reference the dustbowl movement, not quite the same time

[verbal junco]

I do like dieselpunk but it also sounds like an oil lobbyist's wet dream

dustbowlpunk

westernpunk

[last matrix]

i like atompunk personally

fallout 4 essentially

[dim palm]

Steam and diesel. I wish there was more of the latter

[last matrix]

i tend to see deisel more present in aircraft type games

like ww1 era

[verbal junco]

is that the same as post apoc?

also obligatory: there are better fallout games out there

what is mad max? madpunk? maxpunk?

[last matrix]

the cars have that nuclear power, there are laser weapons, the buildings have that retro populuxe/googie architecture

[verbal junco]

I see

[last matrix]

things like Braxo Cleaner and other made up products hark to that 1950s product design

bioshock has a similar vibe, but mixed closer to steampunk - its the posters and the gatherers gardens and such that feel like 1950s era

[verbal junco]

I mean that's the original fallout as well

but that was way WAY darker

[last matrix]

hence fallout 4 specifically

fallout 3 didnt do it as strongly as 4

and interplay's fallout 1 and 2 are definitely mad max

[verbal junco]

I can't really comment

I prefer the old fallout games to any bethsoft version

well, minus dead money DLC for new vegas

that was solid

very thief like now that I think about it

[carmine frigate]

steam punk is high tech use of lowtech and cyberpunk is lowtech use of hitech

[quasi mantle]

Cyberpunk is San Jose Silicon Valley tech startup's pipe dreams

[verbal junco]

brings back memories 🥲

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-wild-west-scooter-gordon-vroom-go-go-go-gif-22383090

[split quarry]

I should play them again. I loved the first two so much.

[verbal junco]

tactics is also great

[dim palm]

I’ve played NV, 4, and 76. I tried 3, but Windows 10 did not like it

[verbal junco]

and if you haven't I do recommend wasteland 2/3

same type of games by the same people

[verbal junco]

NV was OK but I think it's one of the few games where the DLC was much better

[split quarry]

somehow I have never played with Tactics, I do not know why

[verbal junco]

tbh it fits well within the universe

it's different than a pure RPG though

it's more mission based

[split quarry]

totally, I somehow did not liked the gameplay in that time

[dim palm]

Lonesome Road is the best without question

[split quarry]

although I played a lot with U.F.O. back then, but not with Tactics. Again I have no idea why :D

[verbal junco]

I think dead money had the stronger vision. lonesome road was interesting worldbuilding as well though

[dim palm]

First time I played NV, I didn’t know that there wasn’t gameplay past the ending. I started a second run specifically for the DLC

[verbal junco]

also the characters in dead money are really well crafted

[dim palm]

If I recall, I played them in the following order:

• Honest Hearts
• Old World Blues
• Dead Money
• Lonesome Road

[quasi mantle]

NGL, I kinda missed out with western RPGs.

In most cases, I know the titles because of the memes.

[dim palm]

By the way, take a wild guess as to where I got the idea for giving my character a music box

[tulip orbit]

some good drugs?

[dim palm]

https://youtu.be/aLZun0gxXII

[quasi mantle]

Taking drugs for inspiration, what are you, comedian?

(at least in my locale there's a recurring theme where TV comedians caught taking drugs)

[tulip orbit]

"They all laughed when I said I wanted to be a comedian, nobody's laughing now!"

couldnt remember who said it originally

[quasi mantle]

Ah yes, Amy Schumer.

[tulip orbit]

somebody was whining on reddit? 😮

or #cpp

[quasi mantle]

Say what

[tulip orbit]

what

[quasi mantle]

Simon says "look right"

[tulip orbit]

ow my neck

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/egyptian-cat-cat-mad-cat-gif-19413868

Hello

Going well?

[tulip orbit]

no

[zinc matrix]

wtf even is that

(I don't want to know)

[quasi mantle]

Fine.

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-uno-uno-skip-gif-18539488

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/bBuHmAd.gif

[quasi mantle]

draws from deck with malicious intent

[zinc matrix]

Sell on marketplace as "better sun system" XD

Although I would buy that + stars and moon system tbh

Neat

[dim palm]

my head is all over the place rn and I Do Not like it

[tulip orbit]

yah I'm tired and completely unmotivated to do anything

[dim palm]

It doesn’t help that I’m at work and still have 2 hours left in my shift

[tulip orbit]

somehow managed to fix two issues in my code, but thats all I've done today

[split quarry]

that was two issue fixes more than 0

[tulip orbit]

true, but 2 tasks done out of.... probably a few million I need to do to get my game even playable?

[zinc matrix]

Hmm when they say UE5 will release in early 2022 do they just mean on the 31st of may? )))

[split quarry]

did they say that?

[tulip orbit]

well, late 2022 is usually after october, so anytime before that

[zinc matrix]

the early 2022 yes

You may have a point

[split quarry]

I am out of the loop

so don't mind me :D

[tulip orbit]

theres a loop?

[split quarry]

dunno

honestly I have not followed ue5 news

[quasi mantle]

UE4 master is still active, right?

[dim palm]

Y’know what I need

Some way to just respawn irl or some shit

Idk how else to put it

[tulip orbit]

I dont wanna respawn... I just wanna hit alt-f4

[quasi mantle]

In Past Future, you're physically teleported to another world

[dim palm]

I should clarify that I didn’t mean anything too serious - I just have too much going on in my head that’s making it impossible to focus on anything

[verbal junco]

haha I love this

[zinc matrix]

In that case UE4 has officially released today 😎

[quasi mantle]

Have you seen how broken Windows 11 is?

[verbal junco]

everything is broken

[zinc matrix]

why does windows 11 exist

[quasi mantle]

🚚

[zinc matrix]

And since when did releasing stuff in a poor state become the norm?

[quasi mantle]

Last minute change.

[quasi mantle]

Since internet become common place

[verbal junco]

MS: no more windows after 10
also MS: OK windows 11

[zinc matrix]

Nothing is really perfect

[verbal junco]

the internet has people working on it around the clock to keep it operational

[zinc matrix]

Although factorio comes pretty close to being a bug free and performant game

[verbal junco]

that's the level of broken we're at

I do think rick and morty had a guy who could do this in one episdoe

not to steal your thunder

[trail wedge]

who's truk-kun now?

[verbal junco]

think he was called ghost train

summon a ghost train at any time

[trail wedge]

Uncle Barry?

[verbal junco]

tbh way more interesting than conventional superheroes

[quasi mantle]

Trivia nobody going to care:
I originally going to do the truck cliche as the reason Nala thrown into the other world, but I felt it's too brutal, and considering that she won't meet her late mother there

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6yg4ImnYwA

[quasi mantle]

I ended up just getting her physically teleported because the other world tries to bend spacetime

twice.

[trail wedge]

Uncle Barry's soul goes in the family Ute

[quasi mantle]

Imagine trying to bend spacetime to summon some couple from the present world, and ended up backfiring

[dim palm]

Anyone know what isekai this is

[trail wedge]

What? I accidently got reincarnated as roadkill!

[zinc matrix]

What am I reading

I better not see some truck waifu thing emerge from this

[trail wedge]

My Time as a 2D Corpse

[dim palm]

And of course, who can forget the best isekai of all time:

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-intro-awake-finally-awake-gif-22633549

[trail wedge]

...and then Thomas the Tank engine came in and just started wrecking house....

[verbal junco]

you have given form to the formless

though I think a disembodied head to a tank engine is much more creepy than it being a spider

[verbal junco]

I love this shit

[verbal junco]

I'd love to have someone replicate the bear from annihilation as a gameplay element in a game

that could be mad cool

[quasi mantle]

Also I don't know why, but I have the urge to make the ending where the protagonist become evil in the sequel

[tulip orbit]

player should be the bad guy

[quasi mantle]

I would do that in a DLC, kinda like FF15 Episode Ardyn

[verbal junco]

hasn't this been done before?

||SPECOPSTHELINE||

[tulip orbit]

not in a assassins creed type game.

I wanna play AC:Odyssey, and just kill every bastard who wants to make me some stupid little quest

[verbal junco]

in the assassins creeds games the player is the bad guy for purchasing the game 😏

I've only ever played the first. I did try a little bit of origins, but about 10 minutes in I realized this game is going to not be fun

[tulip orbit]

took a while to get into origins

[verbal junco]

I think it's the same for every AC

[tulip orbit]

odyssey I was pretty hooked right away

[verbal junco]

I am looking forward to the new splinter cell though

[tulip orbit]

I dont even know what I'm looking forward to

got so many game on my steam wishlist but shrug

[verbal junco]

yeah to be honest I barely play anything

[quasi mantle]

Kinda

[tulip orbit]

I play constantly, but today I'm just bleh

[verbal junco]

I look forward to games but I almost never end up getting them

and then years later they're free on epic store

[quasi mantle]

But I felt like Nala's backstory is already sour, and all she wants was going back home

[verbal junco]

and I still don't end up playing them

[quasi mantle]

Try desert bus next

[trail wedge]

me too, but in my case I just don't play because it makes me feel like I should be working on my game
...but then I don't do that either and just waste time here or playing the same 2-3 quick round based games

[verbal junco]

I'm careful with managing burnout on my personal stuff. but right now after work I am just exhausted

[dim palm]

I’ve been on and off playing games lately with my animation project

[verbal junco]

I do try and catch a daily round of slay the spire

[dim palm]

I’m surprised I haven’t burned out entirely after half a year

[verbal junco]

but eh

I get bursts of motivations that sustain me for a while but then I gotta pull back when they're not there

[trail wedge]

work is the same room/computer as entertainment for me

[verbal junco]

... same

for the time being anyway

"for the time being" also doubles as a battle cry

[trail wedge]

二千年後の君へ

ask the creator of SnK/AoT

that's the title of the 1st chapter

84 years just felt too short to me 🙂

[verbal junco]

||地獄の門は入る寸前人に現れるだけ||

[unreal cedar]

that's even a 4.26 doc page lol

which makes that page probably over a year old

[zinc matrix]

Often

[verbal junco]

I didn't even get the joke until you just mentioned it now

[trail wedge]

so what was the result of the fart race?

[dim ruin]

https://img.ifunny.co/images/f732b39a9501775cab89c9f900420edd7c5f19276bb2212ba581087cf1efda3f_1.jpg

[last matrix]

No one will survive

[knotty skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648561297700683777/933527168238116884/6FBE7820-EA1F-457D-84C7-882EF564BB63.jpg

[trail wedge]

lol have you been there? it's not that bad/exactly as bad as you think at the same time

[storm lark]

anyone know if there's a twinmotion discord

all the links i found expired

[knotty skiff]

It's Hella of a experience believe me

[trail wedge]

I live 20 minutes from Baltimore

I don't need to believe anybody about Baltimore lol, been in my backyard for 36 years

[knotty skiff]

Some part of Baltimore neighborhood

[trail wedge]

you wanna see a real city go to New York, Baltimore is the noob zone

[knotty skiff]

Well damn

[trail wedge]

the murder rate in Baltimore is just the drug dealers killing each other; they don't care about everybody else

New York however... you'll get mugged for real

[knotty skiff]

Well yeah and good thing I'm in Texas now

[trail wedge]

lol Texas...

[dim palm]

so I decided to try something with one of my OCs

let's see who recognizes the reference

[trail wedge]

how many more people are pointing in anime?

maybe 6?

...and a half?

[dim palm]

I know pointing isn't anything spectacular, but I figured Jotaro would be recognizable enough

[last matrix]

is that M Bison?

[trail wedge]

hahahahahaha

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-3718772

I love how Jotoro's hat merges with his hair in the back

[last matrix]

(Russian) Captain Planet?

[dim palm]

It's even better with his next outfit in Part 4

[last matrix]

that cheek and jaw structure though

[trail wedge]

yeh lol, just draw attention by making the hat white

[dim palm]

and of course, they kept the gag going with part 6

[trail wedge]

eventually he'll just have a Tennis visor

[last matrix]

eventually that's hair

[cursive crypt]

What went wrong with this channel I wonder.

[zinc matrix]

wondering the same thing

[trail wedge]

wow... somebody Master rank just lost to me 1v1 in SC (I'm in silver lol)

just sad

[trail wedge]

Fun Fact: "Dictator", "Claw", and "Boxer" had their names rotated in the US to avoid getting sued (potentially) by Mike Tyson.
Boxer is "M. Bison", Claw is "Balrog", and Dictator is "Vega" in Japan.

[dim palm]

If you mean a few hours ago, a JoJo reference happened

it just spiraled from there

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dcide-traumerei-aruto-farties-gif-22377770

[cursive crypt]

What are these bizarre creatures?

[carmine frigate]

zipperhandpuppies

[cursive crypt]

Is that german?

[carmine frigate]

i didnt see any last time i was in germany

[cursive crypt]

I can assist with my own.

They can come up with some weird, long words.

[carmine frigate]

i came up with that word myself tho, its a combination of 3 words

[cursive crypt]

Noo, don't spoil it.

[regal pecan]

German is famous for combining words into longer words. 3 words is kind of weaksauce though.

[carmine frigate]

yea but when zipper translates too Reißverschluss

thats allready a combination of 2, so we are working with exponential grow

[verbal junco]

my biggest gripe with german is that leergut and gutschein isn't combined into leergutschein

[mossy nexus]

Damn... https://twitter.com/Deathreycg/status/1483806969777508352

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[zinc matrix]

And that's niagara?

impressive

[cursive crypt]

Ah, mr skull

[mossy nexus]

Indeed.

[median wraith]

Isn't a dam is a river

[left granite]

took me a while to figure out

[zinc matrix]

fortnite must be filled with bots lol

way too easy and chill to win a solo game

nobody is building

you just go out and gun

😄

feels like circus filled with entertainment on every corner

kinda fun tho

[knotty skiff]

I got killed by bots multiple times for building too much

[zinc matrix]

i got fresh account

default skin swag gang

😄

[knotty skiff]

Yes default skin are op

Jonesy is the only best default skin in Fortnite

[timber viper]

Today Turkey was cold as this

[timber viper]

Tim intesifies?

[verbal junco]

did it go... cold turkey? 😎

[tulip orbit]

you'll have to thaw that turkey before you can cook it

[cursive crypt]

Got some turkey today. Was nice.

[timber viper]

I never ate turkey in my life

[cursive crypt]

Its a big country, I admit.

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbysGi2Iegc&ab_channel=scarlxrd

this shit hard

bruh

makes your body shake on your own lmao

[last matrix]

what is it drugs? are they on drugs?

[zinc matrix]

idk

rage

feels like you are possesed by demon

but dude is chill af irl

just puts it all in music

it's like exercise

for every part of your body

😄

[last matrix]

so its not drugs?

😢

[zinc matrix]

fuck drugs

you would die with that music playing lol

[verbal junco]

is that how drugs work? 🤔

[zinc matrix]

yeah

i drink my milkshake every morning

don't worry

🙆

[carmine frigate]

thats not music u should listen to while on psychadelics

i guess uppers or downers are fine tho

[verbal junco]

I prefer "sleep" as a drug

[zinc matrix]

or just sober

[verbal junco]

sometimes combined with "coffee"

edgy, I know

[zinc matrix]

coffee makes me shred nonsense on guitar at times

just as fast as possible

lol

[carmine frigate]

well its often not the drugs that u feel but the antibodies that fight it

[verbal junco]

hopefully no antibodies fighting the sleep drug

drugs and alcohol is cool but have you ever felt well rested?

[carmine frigate]

sleep is so hardcore it has its own cult following

constantly interrupting ur REM sleep to regain controll of ur dreams is a real thing

hell of a trip even

not a real believer in outer body or 3rd eye and shit, but u can trigger vivid dreams

for me if i go to higher altitude, lower oxygen shit gets real weird when i sleep

[dim palm]

Take a wild fucking guess as to what the explanation is

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/beerfest-oktoberfest-thirsty-gif-12920566

[dim palm]

Friendly fire

A lot of friendly fire

[carmine frigate]

a lil friendly fire and a lot of return fire

[dim palm]

Long story short is that the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine mistook each other for British forces due to a lack of communication. Both reported back afterwards and folks quickly put 2 and 2 together

[narrow patrol]

This one's my favorite weird battle. Note the Wehrmacht (the german army) on the left side, opposite Germany itself

[dim palm]

Oh yeah, I think I’ve heard about this one

https://youtu.be/hgfjgzYr9Os

with Qxir in mind, I just saw this earlier today and it’s by far one of my favorite stories from the channel

https://youtu.be/x1DbN_S2h2o

[timber viper]

Fun fact that happens quite often in the history 😄

Ottoman vs Ankara Government (both are Turks)
Mussolini vs Allies backed Italian government

[timber viper]

Which animes do that

[rain warren]

I'm working with a team who insists on making a game with an emphasis on sneaking and stealth, with no combat. Any suggestions of fun games where getting caught is a penalty but not instant death, and the objective is to just sneak from one end of the stage to the next?

[trail wedge]

because Rome called the area that Germany is in "Germania", and later the Holy Roman Empire was there

as a matter of fact "Germany" in English comes from "Germania" in Latin

Deustchland (what Germany calls itself) just means "country of the people"

[celest musk]

what?

[trail wedge]

and it's used in anime alot because they are being creatively lazy/semi-historical and "Empire Germania" sounds cooler

[timber viper]

It might sound weird but try asking this on #level-design and probably you'll get a quality of answer

[trail wedge]

Hetalia, Zero no Tsukaima, Shuumatsu no Izetta (haven't watched this one).... I'm sure there are more

[timber viper]

Code Geass doesnt have Germania

It has something similar to European Union

Led by France i guess 🤔 Napoleon built that union based on the story

[trail wedge]

nvm the Code Geass mention was some fan bs I found looking for animes with specific mentions of Germania

maybe @ionic flame knows more since they said "so many"

Zero no Tsukaima was the first one that came to my mind, and the reason for using it there was laziness imo

[trail wedge]

?

I feel like you're right but I came up with 3

[timber viper]

Btw I'm thirsty for a code geass like anime, if you guys have one in your minds

[trail wedge]

can't remember if the Kingdom in Berserk had a name... too lazy to look too

[celest musk]

deutsch = german
land = country

[timber viper]

Devil D? A mod comes to my mind lol

[trail wedge]

it's from proto-german where deutsch = the people

[timber viper]

Getchu 😄

[celest musk]

what's proto german?

[trail wedge]

the language family modern German descends from

[verbal junco]

das leute

der leute?

die leute?

[celest musk]

i see, wasn't aware of that

die leute

[timber viper]

Aight I trust your reference, gonna watch this night

[verbal junco]

ah, from the same root as idiot

[trail wedge]

yep... "people"

[trail wedge]

it goes back further too... potentially to the Teutoni tribe via the archaic term Teutschland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Germany

[timber viper]

is Teutoni related with Teutonic Order I saw in EU4 🤔

[trail wedge]

yes

they actually are

[trail wedge]

good catch

[verbal junco]

interesting

[trail wedge]

also the sounds for D and T switch a lot in Germanic languages over time (even English)

[verbal junco]

some languages have that dichotomy

[trail wedge]

also +1 for Tanya, was distracted with etymology talk

[verbal junco]

v/f, b/v, v/w (depending on language)

p/b

[trail wedge]

not to mention the c/s/k and i/j/y/th maddness

[timber viper]

I'm excited

Let's see how it is

[verbal junco]

linguistics is really interesting

or at least this part of linguistics is interesting

[trail wedge]

ye (as in "ye olde) is just Þe
Þ is th so that should be the
but printing presses didn't have a Þ so they subbed a y in (based on shape kinda)

now people say "ye" wrong when they try to talk in Middle English

[verbal junco]

yeah thorn

which is actually also a really soft d

it exists in icelandic even today

[timber viper]

Isn't not being able to read words as you write them annoying

[trail wedge]

yeh it's just th in English I should have been clearer

[trail wedge]

every language has some of this kinda madness

[verbal junco]

I suggest not trying to learn japanese then 😅

[timber viper]

I tried a lot 😄

[trail wedge]

I haven't tried much but I'm learning some passively (Japanese)

[verbal junco]

it's difficult for western speakers I'd say

SOV instead of SVO

[trail wedge]

that's like learning japanese and ancient chinese (kinda) at the same time tho

everybody has a hard time with Kanji, even in Japan from what I've heard

[verbal junco]

I mean if you have up to 4 different ways to pronounce a single kanji depending on context

it gets tedious

I was told to learn the words instead

so I did

also stroke order and all that: no thanks

[trail wedge]

the only kanji I know off the top of my head is super basic.... mountain

[verbal junco]

I know the inherent meaning of probably around a hundred. but I couldn't tell you the pronunciation of each of them even in context

(unless I know the word)

I was going to ask which kami

[trail wedge]

I just remembered forest/mori

[verbal junco]

forest is great

you got 3 trees

for "woods" you use 2 trees

[trail wedge]

MTG is a great way to learn exactly 5 kanji by using JP lands

[trail wedge]

bonus kanji unlocked, ty for the info

can't remember swamp, plain, or island

[verbal junco]

island is shima/jima (because why have a single pronunciation)

[trail wedge]

I mean the kanji not the word

[verbal junco]

島

[trail wedge]

everybody knows Iwo Jima, so the word for island is easy to remember

[trail wedge]

yeh doesn't look much like an island to me

[verbal junco]

not to be confused with 鳥

[trail wedge]

is that harbor? (guessing)

[verbal junco]

nah, bird/chicken

[trail wedge]

lol way off

I guess I can see that tho, with the dots as the eggs

thought they might be boats

[verbal junco]

there's a funny pun with chicken, hold on

[trail wedge]

so since you said bird... is that "tori"?

[verbal junco]

correct

[dim palm]

e

[trail wedge]

yay... SnK using bird analogies all the time paid off (also DBZA's Toriyama jokes)

[verbal junco]

庭さんの庭には二羽の庭鳥がワニを食べる

[trail wedge]

Tsubasa is wing right? hit me with that Kanji

[trail wedge]

I see "no"

[verbal junco]

it's something along the lines of "in the garden of mr. niwa, two garden birds (chickens) eat a crocodile"

[timber viper]

Why I expected a jumpscare at the end

[verbal junco]

the pronunciation is hilarious though

[trail wedge]

lol listening to google try right now...

[verbal junco]

sure. I think every language has some equivalent of this anyway

[median wraith]

Oh man I'm turning crazy with niagara

even more of my normal state

[trail wedge]

ehhh to me it's not faster so much as recognizing the ends of words is hard until you know them; but maybe

[median wraith]

also why the windows of things thing have a different layout based on the example you open but cannot be dragdrop ?

[verbal junco]

very poignant questions taht could probably be answered in #visual-fx

[trail wedge]

oh yeh, I was talking about hearing it tho

if you don't know many words, it's kinda hard to suss out compound words and stuff like that

I don't have much of an issue with that now, but when I first heard Japanese it was a bit of an issue

[zinc matrix]

Damn I miss when #lounge wasn't #weebchat

[trail wedge]

oh well too bad for you I guess

[dim palm]

Tragic. Anyway…

[zinc matrix]

You seemed to be having a mostly intellectual discussion on language which is fine. dw

[dim palm]

I’ve played Siege. I know who Smoke is

Though I preferred Mute

[quasi mantle]

Oh no
Anyway

[zinc matrix]

It's just funny how it's a language that's so difficult to be fluent in. (school made me learn it once, long ago, got full marks whatever) learned a bit of it myself because why not. Grammar isn't too bad, but from memory it starts to get more confusing with stuff like counters and whatnot. Not to mention all the loan words that are more often than not just drunken english, and that it's spoken pretty much in just one country with a huge economy, so it's alright for business but anyway

[trail wedge]

wasn't worried lol

[trail wedge]

since you didn't say are you talking about Japanese?

[quasi mantle]

I don't know, I don't play Siege.

[zinc matrix]

Yes

context

[trail wedge]

jw since we were also talking about German and Middle English

[zinc matrix]

Cool

[trail wedge]

you're the one only looking at the tail end of a convo lol.... I have full context

[quasi mantle]

I prefer playing some community run Doom Odamex deathmatch servers

[zinc matrix]

Yes I see was just making a comment about the japanese language and those that attempt to be fluent in it

[trail wedge]

I understand now that you clarified, you just used pronouns exclusively prior to that and it made it hard to follow (or at least ambiguous)

[zinc matrix]

French is on the other side of the spectrum

incredibly precise

but can be confusing

but a lot of it is just accept and move on

Russian grammar is interesting

Would like to learn more about it tbh

[trail wedge]

yeh I feel like Russian would be very hard for me since I don't know any related languages at all

[zinc matrix]

At least cyrillic is super easy to learn

oh yeah

how is finnish?

[night grove]

What's the best way to learn Japanese if you can't find any local classes?

[zinc matrix]

May I ask you this first

Why learn it?

[night grove]

So I can weeb!

J/k

[zinc matrix]

For those purposes just learn it yourself

[night grove]

Lots of good game dev resources are in Japanese

[zinc matrix]

just copy paste into DeepL

it may sound drunk

but could work

[night grove]

Maybe. Is it a lot better than Google translate?

A lot of what I would be interested in is reading more technical documents

Like SDK docs

Google translate was worse than worthless for that

[zinc matrix]

give deepl a try, see if it creates anything intelligible

[night grove]

At one point I memorized all of hiragana and most of katakana

But it didn't stick since it didn't actually correlate to words for me

This was back when I was working with the Ps Vita

Deploy times were INSANE

Spent a whole month where I was just twiddling my thumbs waiting for deliverable builds to be made... So I studied kana

Ah I do this now.

Someone once told me the best way to learn a language was to watch movies and TV shows in the language with subtitles.

Its tough with a lot of anime though because it moves too fast

[zinc matrix]

just learn a language you can realistically use IRL

japanese does have some uses

[night grove]

This is actually my interest

I also know a little Spanish

But only a very small amount

[regal pecan]

But can you remember what tambien means?

[night grove]

Haha

I kinda catch the meaning but I only know about 33% of the words there

Oh yeah I got the bit about the letter P

Oh empiezan means starts with

How about "Panzer"

[zinc matrix]

j'ai compris ceci

[night grove]

Donde este Panzer sobre martes

Prolly slaughtered the grammar

I learned "Donde este Wally" in middle school

[zinc matrix]

which language has the best curses?

[night grove]

Japanese!

LOL

I think Japanese doesn't technically have swear words

May be mistaken

[zinc matrix]

why does everyone gloss over arabic

Also how any languages does india have again

let me check

Hindi, bengali, urdu...

there's more

[night grove]

I never realized how much a linguist you are

[zinc matrix]

I'm something of a linguist myself /s

Arjun MBT is the best tank of the world 😎

[night grove]

That's really cool!

I wasted a lot of time learning theology

Dug all the way through and found it to be false on the other side

Stupid brainwashing cults

Well yes... But some cults actually deliver useful things on their promises

Rather than vapid vagaries for after you die

Can't choose the environment you are born in though. At least I know now!

[regal pecan]

Cults need a central authority. Otherwise it's a commune. Riding a bike? Not a cult. Getting taught how to ride a bike? Definitely a cult.

[night grove]

That is a good point

Steven Hassan has a really good model called the BITE model to classify if an organization is a cult

[trail wedge]

Come join cult club! We've got Kool-Aid 🙂

[night grove]

TECHNICALLY I was in a sex cult

Because any org that dictates how, when, or where you can have sex is a sex cult

[regal pecan]

that is a depressing spin on sex cults

[night grove]

IKR?

[regal pecan]

Wait, so an org that doesn't dictate how, when or where you can have sex is not a sex cult... even if there's lots of sex?

[night grove]

The purpose of the BITE model is as a tool for psychologists to help people that are in abusive / manipulative orgs

To recognize the brain washing and help them adopt more healthy lifestyles

There's a lot of different definitions for "cult"

[regal pecan]

Dictionaries no longer make for great technical definitions, since they're intended to cover possible usage.

What we need... is a glossary.

[night grove]

See and by this definition, fan clubs for books or actors are cults

Which is technically correct

But I was talking about orgs with more manipulative and sinister backings

Basically groups that create imaginary problems, offer the exclusive cure to the problems, and exact control over your lifestyle and money

Yes but we aren't a culty cult

Or are we?!

[celest musk]

yes we are

[night grove]

Oh there was this awesome youtube video about board gaming being a cult

I can't find it

But it included the "cut your finger off to join the group" type rules

Was hilarious

[last matrix]

Chrstianity started as a cult

There I said it

[night grove]

cult + time = religion

religion + time = mythology?

[trail wedge]

religion = way to control people who don't want to think

[night grove]

I heard you say "#cpp is 40% of the problem." Is that right?

[trail wedge]

*which results in like 40% of the problems in #cpp

[night grove]

That's no fun

It has to be the first interpretation

I'm a staunch believer that the best way to remove defects is to remove code

Can't have any bugs if there is no code!

Goes for BP as well as C++

[tribal cipher]

and they happen when writing with cpp

[last matrix]

Cult++ !?

Oh sorry, i thought that was still the active topic looks like cpp moved into lounge

[night grove]

So that is what the "C" stands for!

The more you know!

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/back-off-and-stop-asking-questions-wendy-testaburger-rebecca-stan-marsh-south-park-gif-21153806

can't have you guys snooping around in #cpp matters

DON'T ask #cpp about the P

[night grove]

I was going to say... #ue4-general is kinda the front door of the server

As such, it acts as a bit of a filter

Oh really?

That is funny

I thought most the trolls, modders, pirates, and kids gravitated to #ue4-general

[unreal cedar]

should really move the ue5 category down below general

[trail wedge]

good can they stay in there plz (jk)

[unreal cedar]

you mean like they declared legacy macros a good thing ™️ ?

I'll TOct your ree2 I swear I will

[trail wedge]

I'll raise you... 1 UOctreeDynamicMeshComponent

[night grove]

I was thinking of making a PR, but comments like this make me wonder if it is worth the effort

[trail wedge]

I said 🇵 and you were summoned...

[night grove]

I'm not so certain I'm ready to support a source build for my game yet

[verbal junco]

let me in on the 🅿️ meme

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[night grove]

Uh oh. Here we go again

What no!

I don't care about your size

[night grove]

I was talking about TTP in #cpp and lead on the whole channel to guess what it was

[verbal junco]

p_P used to be my favorite emoji

[night grove]

TTP = Time To Penis. I wasn't sure if this was one of those psycho channels that ban at the mention of the word.

[verbal junco]

🅿️ : the new 🅱️

[trail wedge]

when they find out what P means... it'll be like telling a kid Santa isn't real

[night grove]

It's just a measure for how fast players make penises when you give them level creation / modding tools

Primarily relevant for dev teams in kids games or licensed content

[trail wedge]

man.... I wanted to twist the knife longer

[night grove]

AH

Sorry!

[trail wedge]

lol it's cool

[night grove]

So I drug out #cpp for like 20 minutes getting them to guess what the "P" was

[trail wedge]

I mean at this point it's E but also dicks

I mean I originally guessed "porn" and that also worked for TTP

[night grove]

Do people really draw that very often though?

[verbal junco]

the first professional level I ever did had a 🅿️ in it

[trail wedge]

nobody draws vaginas in games on release (usually)

[verbal junco]

I did change it slightly but the 🅿️ amage was done

[trail wedge]

I think a cat in a mech suit could draw something if they wanted to

[broken sigil]

my lounge senses are tingling

😅

[night grove]

Get lonely in #cpp?

[broken sigil]

Feels weird not being able to #lounge

[verbal junco]

🇵C term, surely

[trail wedge]

it's..... Dynamic....

[night grove]

Well actually. I've been learning about DM3 as well!

[trail wedge]

use UOctreeDynamicMeshComponent

for DM3

[night grove]

Now there will be like 2 of us in the channel that know about it

[verbal junco]

mostly by critics

[zinc matrix]

i like vaginas

[night grove]

Well... Based on chat history there doesn't seem to be a lot of info about them

[trail wedge]

@zinc matrix

[verbal junco]

isn't that the standard

scour the source code for helpful comments or die trying

[unreal cedar]

that's not TOctree2

this isn't #cpp????

[trail wedge]

I believe the wise ones called them "comments" once... long ago....

[verbal junco]

which lounge has better chairs though 🤔

and more importantly, which lounge has a bar

[trail wedge]

🐲👿

[verbal junco]

get all actors into get all components on actors nested loops on tick lessgo

[zinc matrix]

uh what a tenor feel

[trail wedge]

I could see both, wasn't many good choices but you got it

[zinc matrix]

is 360hz tenor park?

asks in 27Hz

[verbal junco]

🔥 🐲 vs 🐉 🔥

[trail wedge]

no dragonHell not hellDragon

measure sound in phonons please

[verbal junco]

beingofculture.jpg

[zinc matrix]

6.05

that is low

in csound

many people do not have the soundsystem to reproduce too

[trail wedge]

#cpp has been dead for over 30 minutes, can I have its stuff yet?

[verbal junco]

where is the crossover frequency where you can see sound

or hear light

[zinc matrix]

that is cat talk

there is no Elsa

Alsa and Bela may help you

but only if you fart in 444hz

[trail wedge]

it's every frequency when you're synesthetic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

[verbal junco]

I know of it

I'm more of a concept synesthete

[trail wedge]

I never know what anybody knows here... somebody didn't believe me that they developed Pidgeon guided bombs in WW2

[zinc matrix]

you can dig your papa subwoofer and play old snoop dog songs too

[zinc matrix]

that was not offense

it was just a way to see spectrum with powerful sound and sand

[verbal junco]

I've had to look into WW2 for research purposes and the amount of weird tech and crazy innovation they did was beyond my wildest dream.

[trail wedge]

personally I like the fire visualizers

[zinc matrix]

and i. chatted about snoop dog because that was the last recommend of a hifi forum

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2awbKQ2DLRE

[verbal junco]

what a fancy grill

[trail wedge]

ikr

[zinc matrix]

we can have custom soundsystem in the format of our ears too

that would be cool

[trail wedge]

listen to jams and cook a steak

[zinc matrix]

hear, that is what i feel in 600hz

[verbal junco]

concept restaurant right there

[turbid spindle]

@ionic flame, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[trail wedge]

!8ball is this #cpp now?

[turbid spindle]

@trail wedge, :8ball: My reply is no.

[zinc matrix]

😒

[trail wedge]

!8ball is #cpp #lounge though?

[turbid spindle]

@trail wedge, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[zinc matrix]

lorash you sound rash today

maybe tomorrow

[trail wedge]

!8ball level with us.. are #cpp and #lounge the same?

[turbid spindle]

@trail wedge, :8ball: Yes.

[trail wedge]

there you have it folks

[verbal junco]

you should see their cousin hirash

[zinc matrix]

the trick with you is that you look like an old cat and when you open the profile, it is a baby

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

today has been a day for sure

[zinc matrix]

NO

NO

i was just discussing the sadness of it before reach here

in another server

oh no please mod

bring joy and hapiness

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-stripper-kms-die-sad-gif-16728871

[trail wedge]

wow.... were you even there for the Peps saga?

[zinc matrix]

no i am a newcomer of 1 year old here with various accounts

[night grove]

Wish granted!

[zinc matrix]

now i just stopped the numbness and i think this is my definitive one

[unreal cedar]

wat

[night grove]

I said he's on another server I visit

[unreal cedar]

fun times

[night grove]

He's a bit more mellow there

[verbal junco]

#cpp lore is deeper than I thought

[unreal cedar]

i see he's still asking about landscapes

[night grove]

I thought you'd like that

[verbal junco]

oh wait was he the inherit from ALandscape person?

[trail wedge]

what happened to this?

[zinc matrix]

😭

[night grove]

I think I saw something about peps and tick once in the past couple days

[verbal junco]

what happened to the 32gb data tables dude

[zinc matrix]

what happened?!

[trail wedge]

I dunno they blocked me

[celest musk]

UE President

[verbal junco]

I don't know, they elected trump

the bar has been lowered

[trail wedge]

I could tell you again if you want 🙂

[verbal junco]

I'm just saying anything is possible

[celest musk]

please tell more about the 32GB data table you got me curious

[night grove]

I couldn't find anything about Peps and tick. Looks like he abandoned ALandscape in favor of the custom RMC

[zinc matrix]

it is a whole orchestra played only a single cycle

[trail wedge]

if you're blocked you can't react to their posts... Discord blocking is not real blocking

[verbal junco]

same

[celest musk]

wonder if unreal loads the whole table into memory, does it?

[verbal junco]

surprisingly few people do though

[night grove]

Oh so THAT's why I get a P everywhere!

I didn't know you cared!

[trail wedge]

#cpp message

[verbal junco]

got me a good chuckle even now

[celest musk]

thanks

the explanation of the data is even better

wonder if it's the same dude who started with 1k x 1k line traces

yea, but you got to start big to get to smol

gta is pretty optimized, gotta leave that to them

but that doesn't change the shitton of dumb bugs it has

[zinc matrix]

yeah

you can kill people there

wtf

[celest musk]

apparently gta v map is 75km²

[verbal junco]

ever notice how many repeat cars there are around you in gta?

[zinc matrix]

it is a bug, they will fix

[celest musk]

yea just few minutes ago

so they do that to keep mesh count low and instance the cars?

[verbal junco]

probably?

I don't know their wizard tech

[celest musk]

well, it could be unintentionally considering all the other stupid bugs

[verbal junco]

but I'm sure their tech department doesn't get paid enough for the wonders they do

you'd think that, but problems scale with the amount of people you have to get involved 🙃

[burnt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/infp-mediator-mbti-qiqi-myers-briggs-gif-21180380

[zinc matrix]

16 personalities in the whole humanity

that feels fake

i am sorry

i feel like the powder of darkness right now

and detail: it is meat based

hihihihi

[burnt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/infpmoment-gif-20357410

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/i-pod-dance-gif-11790727

poor cable

works really well

generalizations are always the best expression for understanding the human mind

for example, if they study my brain, they later would study lorash and conclude different stuff

and tuesdaytanksayshi, a completely different ballpark

[burnt lake]

It's just something to talk about and understand really

[zinc matrix]

no no no jovvy

you are very different from me

[burnt lake]

Ok

Everyone is different

In some shape or form but you can always get estimates and general ideas

[zinc matrix]

definitely, but in a large group not so much

as no one is involved in large superb large research and conclusions

for example

my brain chemistry is very different from jovvy

[burnt lake]

Yes

But

With that in mind and considered we would have a good couple billion results of differentiation which wouldn't really be something to talk about

[zinc matrix]

exactly

[burnt lake]

Like the generalisations are there's because of that no one is going to relate or understand more when there are that many results when they can with a handful

[zinc matrix]

that is why we do not use this kind of hypothesis

it can be dangerous, there is a lot of charlatans out there

and innocent people with different chemistry on their circuits

[burnt lake]

Yeah you can't completely define human behaviour and expect exact results no one can do that not even computers there are so many neural networks that can work and not work so you shouldn't take it as an end all or even a conclusion.

[zinc matrix]

how do you know we can not?

[burnt lake]

You cant expect someone not to walk of a bridge because its common sense and rational behaviour to do so as would a computer do because it doesn't serve as any function

But you get people that do

And we get an idea about these outliers but we will never know the exact truth even when we get the exact sequence of events

[zinc matrix]

truth lies in future too

but maybe we can solid define behaviour

[burnt lake]

Especially since people are so different and would do that for different reasons a computer wouldn't stand a chance against all of these irrationalitys and illogical decisions

[zinc matrix]

how about standardize brain chemistry and reach a plato of expected behavior?

with outsource protection like computer monitoring and intervention, we can reach a point where everything that we can perceive, can be expected to work in some way

[burnt lake]

I think we can get really Darn close to that.

And I think we will get really close to predicted human behaviour but I think there will always be those outliers but the better that humans get a consistent behaviour maybe computers will become better because humans would become like robots sort off

[zinc matrix]

regulating brain chemistry sounds like war against drugs

maybe outsourcing power to computers, to make them control us or interview when something is off the general ethic, moral behavior feels a freely alternative

and that may include regulating drugs, too

maybe one day we will be ok of allowing computers take off our competition in the cycle of life

if computers can create everything, better and faster and everyone thinks equal, why not let them thrive?

or we are decent enough to live just to experience life?

will robots judge us in this way?

[burnt lake]

Robots just see things or they don't there isnt really a middle ground it just gets more complex.

Maybe the only middle ground is maybe an estimation between what they know and don't know.

[burnt lake]

I also agree on your take about robots and it's probably enevitable they will take over because they are so much more efficient and better than humans and there's defenitly an incentive to make money and innovative robots that can do better jobs than us there is no doubt about that

[zinc matrix]

i am keen to see fully automated agriculture

and then 3d printed houses

and population awareness of how much we can reproduce

then they can start paving roads to people cycle tour the world while sleeping on lightning protected shelters

with hot water and electricity