lounge

[lucid walrus]

acquisition brings the industry to a monopolistic hellscape 😫

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/its-fine-dog-fine-dog-fire-meme-gif-16250404

[unborn lotus]

Oh no

Not zbrush

[tulip orbit]

well on the brightside, it wasnt acquired by adobe

[lucid walrus]

Maxon are the people who got accused to copy Blender straight up in the latest C4D release, right?

[cursive crypt]

Or Autodebt

[cursive crypt]

Haven't heard about that. Kind of doubt it.

[quasi mantle]

Accused, as in negative light?

https://blenderartists.org/t/maxon-unveils-cinema-4d-r25-imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery/1327783/3
This?

[median wraith]

First change: No perma licenses anymore

[lucid walrus]

Yes... the Blender people got up in arms about it but... I mean... really Windustry-leadingW to copy one of the worst interfaces in 3D 🤣

[drifting quest]

hey

hi @zinc matrix hows life

[unborn lotus]

yeah, out of all the software why copy that. it looks cool but I still can't get used to it

[quasi mantle]

Always been the case with modern acquisitions that perpetual licence shifted to subscription model (maybe Epic is like one huge exception)

[last matrix]

hope zbrush never does the sort either

[quasi mantle]

Cinema 4D is still perpetual, isn't it?

[last matrix]

still around eh?

is that Foundry?

anh nvm, Maxon

looks like both

[drifting quest]

hey conrad

[cursive crypt]

Epic had to be the ones buying Z instead :/

[naive herald]

Hello peeps. I need someone with a great experience and knowledge with lighting overall and in outdoor scene 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Are you looking to #hire-a-freelancer or opening some #freelance-jobs?

[cursive crypt]

Just read #instructions

[last matrix]

sup

[naive herald]

More like advice 🙂

[drifting quest]

we party here

[ivory lodge]

https://youtu.be/O2C5R3FOWdE

And now I'm terrified of Garfield.

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepy-fall-tired-train-wasted-gif-12214869

[signal citrus]

@abstract haven

Was just kind of playing around on the phone in bed but that’s basically kaleidoscope

[median wraith]

Wait wait what app is that

[median wraith]

I do remember when UE4 were per montly subscription

[signal citrus]

“Shade”

iOS

Wanted to rough some material for Toku but very tired

[abstract haven]

thanks @signal citrus I found one on shadertoy will try using yours too

[signal citrus]

Nice

[abstract haven]

put it in graphics channel

now just hope it works on android vulkan reasonably

need to blend some more UV distortions so it looks like water

[median wraith]

Sorry I'm an Android peasant 😢 XD

[signal citrus]

It might be on android too tbh

I just searched the App Store now and found it tbh

Don’t know much about it, it’s a lot like substance designer though

[median wraith]

xD

Yeah by "Shade" there isn't anything equal

a pure glsl shader editor for android man

[signal citrus]

Dang

[abstract haven]

@signal citrus any idea how I can make a 'constantly expanding' UV

kinda like rings growing inside rings

except it needs to be the texture sample/alpha

[signal citrus]

Like a fractal?

https://youtu.be/8K99v26sa4o

[cursive crypt]

#graphics guys might be better

[abstract haven]

something like that yeah, but its an image with an alpha, so it isnt constantly tiling, it needs to fade out as it scales up and then a new smaller one fades in

I will ping you tommorow about it

[signal citrus]

Aye tired

[median wraith]

by the way, how are you doing with your project ? @signal citrus

[abstract haven]

somethng like this, made progress but not exactly what I needed, will try tommorow

[median wraith]

I see I see what you did here with the Android thing

someone have on top of their head how to dynamically invert a parameter ?

[abstract haven]

Oneminus

If its normalized

[median wraith]

but is there a way to make it dynamically ?

Like tried to use 1 - Red manually but won't work

aside from pure inversion

want to move between non inverted and inverted

[abstract haven]

Not sure what you mean, you can use lerp/switch?

In a material or bp?

[median wraith]

a lerp in the material

got a mask

wanted to allow the user to blend/lerp it from normal to negative

[abstract haven]

So you want to invert a mask?

[median wraith]

yeah

well to invert you just use the 1-x

but want it dynamically

[abstract haven]

Make lerp, a is mask, b is mask*oneminus, alpha is parameter

You need to make a scalar parameter to drive alpha

Or a switch parameter

[median wraith]

mmm yeah I had a switch

but wanted it with some math or so

so then aside from a lerp

isn't a way via math to get it ?

[thick belfry]

Damn Im finally able to make stuff in unreal without any tutorials albeit simple things

This feels so good

[abstract haven]

@median wraith you can use a scalar parameter to control the blend amount, other than that, not sure, thats how I have done it

[median wraith]

Well yeah ended using that

[zinc matrix]

Good morning to those living in this part of the world

[jolly fractal]

G'day

[quasi mantle]

おはようなのー

[zinc matrix]

ohayou to you as well

[quasi mantle]

Wait, I shouldn't imitate Miki, but ehhh

[quasi mantle]

I get why some people love to shit on low spec gaming for "hampering" graphics in games, but I can't help but give less capable gamers more love that they deserve

[night grove]

Text alignment in editors?

[quasi mantle]

JetBrains Mono? 🤔

[night grove]

Oh the "Remove" line is offset

I didn't notice that at first

That's annoying

Is it caused by mixed tabs and spaces?

[quasi mantle]

Oh, it has to be those "libre" fonts

[jagged rain]

He, anyone knows their particles, tryna not dissolve them but the opposite, have them be very spread then gather them togheter and warp them into a mesh

anyone any ideas?

[night grove]

I'm using VS 2022 rn, it seems to work really well

Though multi-line editing has gotten a bit weird

You have to hit escape to clear it now

[quasi mantle]

Ah snap
I forgot to install VS'22

[last matrix]

#visual-fx or #niagara depending on system

[night grove]

There were problems with it originally. I installed it just a few days ago

[jagged rain]

Yeah would be great

if its active lol

[night grove]

4.27.2 fixed a bug related to VS 2022

I don't remember what it was

I always hate migrating IDEs

Takes forever to get the settings right

😫

[quasi mantle]

Just put your question in one of those channels.

[night grove]

#niagara tends to be pretty active

Not as much as the most active channels, but knowledgeable people there

[tribal cipher]

guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqQ5ujd_wmg&t=1s

would this work for a game project?

and if so, is there already something like it?

[jagged rain]

Thank you, invaluable feedback

[quasi mantle]

Bloody hell mate

Do I look like Niagara god to you, knowing everything about it by heart?

[night grove]

Can't control if people don't answer your question. But the people that are likely to know the answer don't really look at lounge

[last matrix]

everyone, by this point, has heard about your wpo solution to eyebrows, maybe you are a god

[night grove]

You won't be able to "play niagara backwards" to get your result. Moving a particle from a random spawn point to a mesh surface is going to be non-trivial. It'll take a specialized module that probably doesn't exist.

[quasi mantle]

"Oh yeah, let me inaccurately imagine the Niagara editor down to the T while I'm eating okay, here's your even more unhelpful feedback hahahah"

[night grove]

LMAO

Why did I bother trying to help?

[quasi mantle]

Also can't you just frickin wait for someone else to chime in on the question? Any issue with waiting?

I'd love to help, but I'm less inclined to drag on talking out of my ass

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/OscarGo98/status/1470831981256744972

Oscartílago (@OscarGo98)

Una hora en el Matrix Awakens buscando el trompo para saltar la valla y ver las físicas del agua con el UE5 pa esto 😔 https://t.co/5JaWNnoHW9

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water physics 🙌🏼

[zinc matrix]

WHAT?

[tribal cipher]

uuuuuh guys

[zinc matrix]

Dude it's amazing what UE5 water simulations are capable of

[tribal cipher]

can someone pls answer my fairly stupid question

[zinc matrix]

the cartoon one?

[tribal cipher]

yeh

[zinc matrix]

I don't do a lot with post process materials and shaders yet :( so I'm not sure

[tribal cipher]

oh no i meant the ethan baker yt bid

*vid

i was saying can f-ips work with games

[quasi mantle]

From the thumbnail alone, kind of reminds me of Jet Set Radio

[tribal cipher]

u mean the style?

[quasi mantle]

Yea

[tribal cipher]

no no im talking about the concept of f-ips

[zinc matrix]

Hmm what is this new retopologize tool in maya. Wonder if it actually works lol

Time to experiment

[quasi mantle]

Is there TL;DW version of that video? I don't like the drag out in the first few minutes

[tribal cipher]

well, theres a link to the website that there talking about

one moment

[last matrix]

doubt

[zinc matrix]

I've figured that anything with retopologize in the name is too good to be true

[last matrix]

yeah i kinda tuned out after a few minutes where I didnt see any actual work just a bunch of guys daydreaming

[tribal cipher]

https://www.projectcity.tv/about

[night grove]

I'm not quite sure what you are asking about. I watched the first few minutes of the video and all I got from it is that they are making yet another indie fundraiser platform.

[last matrix]

wrapit is pretty good, but its a plugin

[zinc matrix]

lol wtf this tool just makes things wonky

[last matrix]

zremesher is still my favy fav

[zinc matrix]

before

after

[last matrix]

whoa nsfw that shit

[quasi mantle]

Is it just me, or am I sensing some cryptocurrency??

[tribal cipher]

i think the difference is theyre selling the projects rights

[zinc matrix]

It's a switch bruh

[last matrix]

that smile at the end tho!

[zinc matrix]

peak lounge intelligence

[quasi mantle]

I take a look at my enormous....

[tribal cipher]

yeah kinda ig

[zinc matrix]

guess that example failed

[tribal cipher]

so basically, you make your project into several peaces, then sell them to fund the project

it

[quasi mantle]

I thought it was a new revelation on animating process

[last matrix]

"Project City is launching a new way for artists to fund their dream projects, by splitting up the Intellectual Property into Fractional shares that anyone can buy"

[quasi mantle]

Sounds like Early Access model to me.

[last matrix]

nope, just another pyramid scheme to justify artist work

[zinc matrix]

before

after

[night grove]

I'm seeing a trend

[tribal cipher]

i mean, the guys all did work on some pretty good stuff

like kippo

[last matrix]

Kipo actually

[tribal cipher]

right

[last matrix]

have some respect

[tribal cipher]

affermative

[last matrix]

this is better though?

like why do it?

[quasi mantle]

Splitting up the IP ownership? Yikes..?

[night grove]

Was it Freud that believed every artist incorporates a certain shape in the root of their art?

[zinc matrix]

That's the point

[tribal cipher]

"Project City is launching a new way for artists to fund their dream projects, by splitting up the Intellectual Property into Fractional shares"

[zinc matrix]

There is no point using that tool

[last matrix]

i will make, therefore own all barrels and tree branches

[zinc matrix]

unless your topology is 100% logical to begin with

[night grove]

I swear I learned something something, obsessed with SHAPE, in some art class somewhere

[last matrix]

this is usually for organics

decimation for hard

[zinc matrix]

I suppose yeah

[last matrix]

its "in art, it's either a p*nis or a v*gina"

[tribal cipher]

so, what do you guys think? will f-ips work or not?

for games that is

[night grove]

At the end of the day it is a funding question and whether it works or not depends on a lot of context

[quasi mantle]

I thought the whole F-iP is an animation technique revelation I wasn't aware of.

[last matrix]

crypto works i think, i dunno, im no expert

[tribal cipher]

lol no

[zinc matrix]

yeah it was just a really simple thing I didn't put much thought into XD

[night grove]

Me too

[last matrix]

or an artist can just make their own work, then copyright it.....

[quasi mantle]

I'm inclined to think games already have this kind of thing but in a more traditional sense.

[tribal cipher]

how so?

[night grove]

Diluted ownership tends to have a lot of problems with long-term vision.

[last matrix]

usually why an artist at a studio is paid to make the art in the first place

[tribal cipher]

ok what about this then

[night grove]

If I'm investing into something to "gain ownership" I'm going to have the expectation I get a say in how it is made

[last matrix]

"its not my shitty vision, it's theirs, but i get paid"

[night grove]

If a lot of people are doing the same, then how is there going to be a cohesive vision for the project?

But then, this is a bit of a biased audience for your question

[last matrix]

not far off from what i see out there already tbh

[night grove]

A lot of people here have cast their vote to work on their own project

[quasi mantle]

Okay, looking at the website again, I feel like it's full of buzzwords, no schematics that I can comprehend. I hope it's not because English is not my first language

[last matrix]

nah its buzz

[night grove]

Exactly. I've been through a several different companies that lacked a cohesive vision and as such ended up going under

[last matrix]

pyramid scheme of another sort

[last matrix]

lol im talking about how ytubers dont have it either, yet...

[tribal cipher]

making a game with lower levels, selling it for less money , then the price goes up as more levels and stuff are added

[night grove]

This model is employed with some degree of success in various markets

[last matrix]

believe thats called dlc

[night grove]

Some marketplace plugins do this

[quasi mantle]

I think you talked about something else, DLC.

[last matrix]

or in-app purchases

[night grove]

I think there are a couple games that do this, but I can't recall names right now

[last matrix]

all the way back to arcade games, thats the same model

[quasi mantle]

Complete bundle packs tend to be more expensive than the base game

[night grove]

The strategy is to induce some Fear of Missing Out by pressure of price escalation

Rather than having a game that gets cheaper over time, you have a game that gets more expensive

[tribal cipher]

well, i got the idea from a course

[night grove]

It's not a sustainable model in the extreme long term though

[quasi mantle]

That's why I said this earlier

I'm inclined to think games already have this kind of thing but in a more traditional sense.

[night grove]

Eventually the game has to break apart into DLC or sequals

[last matrix]

"are you a stay at home mom who must spend every minute with their child? We understand, that's why we want to give you money" - prince of africa

[tribal cipher]

lolz

[night grove]

Have you seen the Reddit frenzy over publishers having the audacity to raise the price of games to $70?

[tribal cipher]

well, what if it starts at like 5, then 2 dollars for every idk content update

[night grove]

It has been a topic a few times recently, but here is a post: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/re8zie/final_fantasy_vii_remake_intergrade_70_price/

[last matrix]

i seen that

[tribal cipher]

im not talking like 70 bucks lol

[night grove]

On the one hand, it sucks to pay more as a consumer, but on the other things need to be adjusted for inflation

[last matrix]

"we're paying our artists less and that's still not covering the production overhead wth!?"

[night grove]

Oh I'm with you. I've been considering the price escalation model myself

[quasi mantle]

Same thing happens when 9th gen console game is now $70

[night grove]

But there's also the "base game free, have to buy DLC to really enjoy the game" model

[tribal cipher]

hmmmm

[night grove]

Pros and cons for each

[last matrix]

skins

leaves

[quasi mantle]

Congratulations, you just invented DLCs.

[tribal cipher]

or , game starts off as a demo, then you have to buy it to enjoy the whole thing

[night grove]

It is different than DLC though

The BASE PRICE gets increased

[tribal cipher]

i mean if the idea is tested thats even better

[quasi mantle]

Congratulations, you just invented Shareware.

[night grove]

So everyone that already has it, does not pay any more

[last matrix]

i thought that was early access

[quasi mantle]

Now go back to the 90s and tell everyone about it, I'm sure John Carmack and Tim Sweeney would love to hear it.

[tribal cipher]

i was thinking more like the creation of dead cells

lmao

[last matrix]

but that was early access...

[tribal cipher]

oh ok then

i wasnt entirely sure

[night grove]

I don't think you can hamfist a particular business model onto any game

[last matrix]

oh no you right, early access isnt that different from a demo

[night grove]

The game design and the business model really need to work in harmony, and the context of who you are as the seller is super important as well

People are willing to spend around $10 for a stupid skin on fortnite because they play it all the time and the game isn't going away anytime soon

[last matrix]

to which, in a gdd, there is a marketing section

[night grove]

You as an indie developer ask for $10 for DLC too soon after launching the game? Prepare yourself for mobs, pitchforks ,etc.

[last matrix]

but will they buy NFTs for fortnite

[night grove]

I hate this whole NFT thing

I have a neighbor that wants me to build a game solely for NFTs

[last matrix]

one of those ppl

[night grove]

Offered my $5k to do it

I'm like, nah thanks.

[quasi mantle]

Your neighbour is not alone

hehehehe

Just look at some misplaced job vacancy posts on this server 😏

[night grove]

Oh I know. I genuinely looked into it for a while

The problem with the whole NFT thing is it is being driven by some super wealthy players

[tribal cipher]

i still dont get why nfts are a bad idea though

[night grove]

Everyone else is just a pawn

"The only winning move is not to play"

[tribal cipher]

like, can u lose money from it?

[quasi mantle]

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is

[last matrix]

thats how it starts, yes

[tribal cipher]

so its a lot like stock trading?

[night grove]

Have you seen the whole thing about old video game cartridges are going for insane amounts of money?

[tribal cipher]

yea

[night grove]

I think NFTs are similar

[quasi mantle]

Yes, I've seen that one

[last matrix]

sure, or like trading cards

[pearl elk]

A fool and their money are soon parted

[night grove]

If you are connected to the right people (the ones manipulating the market), you stand to win big

But if you aren't one of those players, you risk losing everything

[quasi mantle]

The whole thing was a massive network of shady money movement

[tribal cipher]

i just think the fact that something can be og in the digital world is pretty cool

[last matrix]

on paper...

[tribal cipher]

well ig

[quasi mantle]

I'm more of the sceptical type of guy, tbh

[night grove]

Don't get me wrong. The THEORY of this is fantastic

I make a character in one game and can bring it into another

Like Sword Art Online

Fantastic fantasy

[quasi mantle]

In practice? There has to be the catch associated with it

[night grove]

The reality won't work because disjointed businesses won't be able to support it

[tribal cipher]

isnt that like the metaverse?

[night grove]

Yeah facebook just pissed all over that phrase

But yes

[pearl elk]

thats not how it'll work though, you buy some nikes and you can wear them in all games with license agreements with nike

[quasi mantle]

I'm sure NFT traders aren't generous patrons either

[night grove]

The problem is very similar to the Godzilla vs King Kong movies

Godzilla IP owned by one company, King Kong by another company

So they make a movie together

Which monster should win?

Answer: Neither

[last matrix]

which monster represents NFT...? 😨

[night grove]

You have a super powered lightsaber NFT in one game

[pearl elk]

this idea corporatism will fade away and suddenly a new wild west will appear with nfts being the new gold rush is a pipe dream

[night grove]

Then you bring that NFT into another game

[quasi mantle]

(I'm sure there's more fitting word to this on my tongue but I'm not sure which - someone who voluntarily give away lots of materials)

[night grove]

and it turns into a poodle?

It is still a light saber?

In a game about guns?

[last matrix]

getting back to NFT's in fortnite....

[tribal cipher]

well, hows it going so far?

[night grove]

The NFT in gaming idea is sold because your NFT can outlive the game as a platform

But it doesn't hold water

Someone has to implement the functionality of the NFT

[last matrix]

i made 20 aethereum bucks

[night grove]

Why would I spend weeks play testing an asset that is owned by a single person?

[tribal cipher]

u mean, a-bucks?

[quasi mantle]

I made my own worthless token

[last matrix]

sure 😅

[tribal cipher]

sorry dad joke

[pearl elk]

its like when you go to a theme park and have to use their money

[quasi mantle]

And I'm not even involved in cryptocurrency at all

[night grove]

If the NFT is NOT functionally unique, then you will face the issue of power creep

MOST old M:TG cards aren't worth a lot

[last matrix]

sort of, you can actually spend that fake money though

[pearl elk]

tbh I think its better when you have access to dupes

[night grove]

because the game has had power creep to keep people buying cards

[quasi mantle]

philantrophist

That's the word

[pearl elk]

only at their parks though

[night grove]

jots down notes furiously

I now have the formula for ponkkis game!

[tribal cipher]

ill use this for my next crappy mobile game

[last matrix]

i have taken a screenshot, this now an NFT

[night grove]

What! So when I do this someone will say my game is a clone?

[tribal cipher]

btw anyone use als v4?

[night grove]

I don't like ALS

[quasi mantle]

Yes

[night grove]

I looked at it briefly

[last matrix]

go ahead and use the concept, but you better not put it on tshirts

[tribal cipher]

well, i kinda broke it

[quasi mantle]

I'm still actually use ALS

Granted, I know what I'm doing, so I can dismantle it on my own

[pearl elk]

nothing wrong with asset reuse if its done in a classy way not an I'll eat your baby for profit way

[night grove]

It gets a very bad wrap in #cpp I ended up building most of what I needed myself

[last matrix]

please take this down as your are infringing on my NFT of this, i will get my lawyers

[night grove]

I also picked up DragonIK during the sales for some of the more complicated animation stuff though

I haven't had time to integrate it

[quasi mantle]

The animation retargetting is hell tho

[night grove]

I've been analyzing Chaos Destruction

[quasi mantle]

I think the idea is that you create your own anim sequences for the character replacing ALS's stock anims

Which I'm doing that, single handedly

[night grove]

Oh right! That was the bit I saw with ALS, anim retargeting was not great.

[tribal cipher]

well, i imported an animation from mixamo

[night grove]

It seems like there was some problems with network replication with ALS, but I might misremember

[tribal cipher]

and as soon as i put it, its always in idle mode

when u press q

[pearl elk]

dont have to retarget if your anims are using UE4 skeleton

[last matrix]

looks like order has been restored

[pearl elk]

just delete skeleton and reassign, voila

[quasi mantle]

Replication is solved on the C++ implementation, but still buggy, I'm afraid it affects replay system

[night grove]

Yuck. My main interest in replication is the replay system TBH.

[quasi mantle]

Except my character model becomes spaghetti monster due to her being shorter than the mannequin

[pearl elk]

should scale the skeleton after the fact if its still default UE4

[quasi mantle]

I think it'd be more difficult because I'm averaging on shorter Asian body heights.

[tribal cipher]

make the character bigger and scale everything else smaller accordingly

[pearl elk]

anime typically uses different proportions, 4 sections instead of 5

tbh manne is abit of a hunch back

could use better shoulder blade rig

[quasi mantle]

The official female Manny had better proportions IMO

[pearl elk]

Manny cant help if he blew his knee out in the NFL and had to find another job

[night grove]

LOL! Awesome

[quasi mantle]

Being an NFT trader, for example

Gotta keep the loop alive hehehe

[tribal cipher]

ok i need a good tut on how to add animations to als

[quasi mantle]

Overlays? Montages?

[tribal cipher]

montage

this is the tut i was using lol

but then it broke when i used a retargeted mixamo animation montage

well, it says the ik hand ik foot and other iks are missing

oh

is it this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5dAvuOw9c

[scenic glen]

ow so zbrush has been acquired by maxon

[tribal cipher]

why not?

true, but i just want some ready animations sometimes though

ok i could make my animations with mr manniquin tools

its just aiming a wand for now

[last matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[tribal cipher]

ok where the hell is the automatic ik to fk button again

[pearl elk]

maxonmo

[tribal cipher]

found it

[tribal cipher]

also, apparently send2unreal isnt working with mr manniquin tools

[left granite]

mmm

thats strange

no one is streaming today

[quasi mantle]

I don't think both plugins go hand in hand anyway

Also I don't use Send to Unreal plugin because of how it needs specific collections setup.

[dim ruin]

what's UE4's gltf support like?

[tribal cipher]

dunno

[tribal cipher]

the maker of mr manniquin tools says it works, but the ik spine thing on the back bugs out when i use it

[dim ruin]

using the same version of blender as the mannequin guy?

[tribal cipher]

no idea

im using the latest version though

[rare mauve]

i just found out apetor died and i am shooketh

[cursive crypt]

Wut

[last matrix]

@noble plaza guess who?

[noble plaza]

Oh no

[last matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/hazmat-dancing-turnt-lit-gif-7884344

[noble plaza]

Sekiro has good combat. Also crazy twitchy.

Or I haven't figured it out yet

[last matrix]

@neat sluice ill take one for the team 😛

[noble plaza]

@zinc matrix I think procGen is more of an indie thing tbh, where you don't have the manpower to fill the scope of your game.

[last matrix]

@zinc matrix speaking of out of the box, check out this lounge

[noble plaza]

But even AAA is proc gen + finishing touches/ polish, because it's much more efficient

[last matrix]

let make the Unreal Engine channel so dead its shameful

wait that doesnt make sense

[noble plaza]

"Yes, UE is dead, long live Unity." - Conrad

[neat sluice]

Unity might be killing itself

[last matrix]

more like blender game engine

[neat sluice]

Sadly it was discontinued 😩

[last matrix]

more like Godot

[last matrix]

Unity is growing up

and as things age, they slowly die

[noble plaza]

There's two kinds of software - the ones without issues, and the ones people actually use

[last matrix]

good ol' MS paint

gee I wonder if @zinc matrix realized they're still arguing with themselves 🙂

missing out an all the discorse here oooo

i said.... i said the thing

[neat sluice]

But you gotta give it to Blender,
They literally tried to add everything in it
3D Modelling, Game Engine, Video Editing, Compositing, Sculpting, Animation, Texture Painting and what not
Of course, other areas (except Modelling) are super basic, but they have it nonetheless

[last matrix]

Blender is crazy cool like that

[noble plaza]

UE is doing the same now though, which is interesting. Modelling, animating, proc gen modelling, etc

[last matrix]

basically this quest to make all of this cumbersome corporate controlled software open and free - as if showing how its not that hard, that it doesnt require millions of dongs

[last matrix]

yeah, archvis, cinematics, other non-game words

[noble plaza]

They're still rendering though, which feels close enough to game dev?

[last matrix]

whats still rendering?

we render in game dev?

[neat sluice]

It does require millions of dongs though,
Epic has that ||Fortnite money||

[noble plaza]

Archviz and cinematics?

[last matrix]

you're quick 😏

[last matrix]

i guess because its free to use

and its not a bad renderer

just a larger system

[neat sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-meme-kid-gif-14031709

[last matrix]

i guess people are fine biting that bullet

[last matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-drift-crash-fail-gif-16909243

[noble plaza]

How long till Epic just builds up a pool of standard customisable assets that would get most games like 50% of the way there?

3D Metaverse 🤔

[last matrix]

thats a lot of marketplace stuff

[last matrix]

you think its going to be organized

by nature, game dev is chaos

[noble plaza]

Nah too scattered and random. I mean like Quixel but with a bigger budget/ more customisation

[quasi mantle]

RIP
I barely knew ya, BGE

[noble plaza]

I've seen the power of Houdini, and I blinked, for it was vast.

[neat sluice]

Then many games will just end up with similar graphics and assets

[quasi mantle]

Isn't that what's happening in Second Life?

[last matrix]

hence....

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-gif-22919457

[noble plaza]

That's where customisable comes in! If there's a good Houdini setup thing, could just go off noises, parameters and all.

How different are rocks, brick walls etc from game to game, for any given art style?

[neat sluice]

to the point that it will be considered low quality to have them in your game

[last matrix]

yet ppl are still making money...

[neat sluice]

don't know. Never played second life

[last matrix]

2022, the year art was solved

[quasi mantle]

Me neither tbh
But I heard many not so good things from it

[noble plaza]

I never said that's all there would be to it, but I'm a scrub and I was able to make a brick wall that could scale from HD to low poly, with dynamic wear and the likes. I've seen people do a lot crazier things

This is more for the fancy Gray box I guess. The unique stuff would be your special sauce, which would go on top

To quote a certain someone, I know this can work. If you disagree, prove someone tried exactly this, and failed. Dare ya.

[quasi mantle]

I'm just going to watch from Blender Geonodes...

I just can't get used to Houdini

[noble plaza]

UE is getting Houdini Lite with 5 sooo 🤷

[neat sluice]

I've been hearing about them a lot
But haven't taken a look and don't plan to anytime soon
I'm still on 2.83 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Eh, no big deal. Still going to rely on Blender Geonodes. And I'm not going to use UE5 for games anytime soon

[last matrix]

do people even model?

[neat sluice]

NSFW
||https://tenor.com/view/model-walk-fierce-run-way-confident-gif-5271052||

Yes they do

[last matrix]

what is that Knald?

so much noise in the bg

[quasi mantle]

I might going to use UE5 to make tech demos, but until an average student computers able to get UE5 rendering working consistently, I won't make games with it.

[noble plaza]

My dog is a model

[last matrix]

make sure you mark these things as NSFW, ppl need a warning

[neat sluice]

TIL What knald is

[neat sluice]

How do i do that?

nvm did it

[last matrix]

i thought there was a way to blur it

[quasi mantle]

I remember someone getting strike for posting NSFW GIF here. Who was it?

Was it Tank?

[quasi mantle]

You can't mark spoiler on the GIF image

[neat sluice]

It was @celest musk

[quasi mantle]

Kate Upton one or something

[neat sluice]

You can, I just did

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/what-confused-huh-whats-that-fish-gif-17209713

[last matrix]

yeah naw

[neat sluice]

Yeah, I might have it 😏

[quasi mantle]

You marked the link, not the image itself

[neat sluice]

But it does hide the image

At least on my pc

[last matrix]

nothing i do is working!

[neat sluice]

then don't do anything

Relax, take a break

[last matrix]

these hands only destroy!

oh wait

[neat sluice]

||https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-what-wut-crazy-gif-20900490||

[last matrix]

nah i can still see it

[neat sluice]

that's because I didn't mark it 😄

[last matrix]

riiight

[neat sluice]

How about now?

[last matrix]

well yeah, but the secret's already spoiled

[neat sluice]

Not for future visitors

[last matrix]

Im already offended

Windows also kicked me off my pc for its precious updates

I guess il go to bed

Also your gif becomes a line i remember seeing it as a blurred picture

10x more cooler

[last matrix]

It litetally just closed all my work and shutdown

[neat sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-guess-ill-die-ill-die-gif-12053906

Your PC at that moment

[last matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-emoticon-angry-sad-frustrated-gif-3432469

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/life-barrel-me-roll-gif-17943995

[neat sluice]

He got Yeeted

[left granite]

lol so true

[celest musk]

xD funny how you guys remember that strike

bet you gonna show up at my funeral

[neat sluice]

https://i.redd.it/s0hz7xo80j181.png

[celest musk]

"hey thats the dude who got the strike for a "NSFW" gif"

[neat sluice]

Found on Reddit

[left granite]

who

[celest musk]

SimpleOrComplex

[neat sluice]

You're famous!

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/forget-forgot-willsmith-menin-black-gif-5390529

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-looking-confused-the-rock-gif-21978284

[neat sluice]

What's that in his hand? Doesn't look like a gun 🤔

[last matrix]

s'all right i didnt remember you

[celest musk]

you don't know the movie?!

[last matrix]

its a ||spoiler||

[neat sluice]

I did because I distinctly asked him to send that GIF to me 😄

[celest musk]

xD

[last matrix]

poor Ben was framed

[neat sluice]

I know the movie, just haven't watched it

[celest musk]

12/10 gif

[neat sluice]

It's Men in Black right?

[celest musk]

yea

that device is to erase memory

[neat sluice]

I don't want to forget about Unreal Engine

[left granite]

yee i need one of those rn

[last matrix]

pretty sure its just a bright flashlight

[neat sluice]

At first I thoughts it was a ||spoiler||

[last matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-jerry-pez-pez-dispenser-gif-19578058

same thing

night yall

[neat sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-शुभरात्रि-शुभ-रात्रि-गुडनाइट-gif-14966939

[drifting quest]

good morning 😄

[zinc matrix]

Good evening

[tulip orbit]

its almost 230 here... I should sleep

[cursive crypt]

Don't. Sleeping is waste of time.

[zinc matrix]

sleep is a drug and fatigue is just the withdrawal symptom 😎

seriously though make sure you get enough sleep

[left granite]

sleeping is a mood changer and the best energy drink of the world

[celest musk]

time well spent

[deep glen]

i bet im way beyond that estimate already

[fluid bloom]

what sort of dev machines epic have nowadays? Was it mentioned in any of the inside unreal talks?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-gif-21010138

dev machine ^

[fluid bloom]

is that coffee machine full power?

[cursive crypt]

It renders good coffee.

[fluid bloom]

relevant https://youtu.be/oWuyrlXI7nA?t=302

[zinc matrix]

this is great

[torpid star]

I love these Finnish videos

I just love Finland

[zinc matrix]

such a great accent lol

[torpid star]

yep

[fluid bloom]

the accent is the number one cause of second hand embarrassment for finns

[zinc matrix]

aint he a bad boy

[zinc matrix]

he could die

[ivory zenith]

some1 post the rock

[left granite]

why

[ivory zenith]

I miss it

[ivory zenith]

thank you sir

[pearl elk]

I miss my lung

[cursive crypt]

That odd.

[left granite]

i miss my brain

[ivory zenith]

wat da dog doing

wow turns out roblox is a crappy place to make games

[torpid star]

this is wonderful, thank u

[quasi mantle]

Always has been

[ivory zenith]

not even because the platform is lol but because people abuse people and kids

[cursive crypt]

Flying doggos!

[thick belfry]

Also the platform abuses kids

Pretty much their workforce is kids trying to make games, paying them for advertising, and only getting 30%

Also they have to make 1000 dollars before they can actually take the money

[median wraith]

<Insert meme here>

[thick belfry]

All the while they're reporting billions in revenue

[median wraith]

Roblox games are copy pasted versions of free to play mobile games

[quasi mantle]

Roblox is a messed up Metaverse

[thick belfry]

There are a bunch of different communities and types of games but many rely on the same dark design principles as mobile games

Imo it is dangerous to condition kids to enjoy that type of feedback loop so young

But who knows, humans throughout history have though their children would become the end of civilization

Thought*

[foggy path]

I don't know if kids are stupid enough to not realize the feedback loops are shit

Most people eventually realize it lol

[median wraith]

I mean back in the days the teens used to do modding hard way ala pseudo c++ scripts

and the mods were more elaborated

then came Minecraft community

[foggy path]

The kids who want to do that still do that

[median wraith]

and started to get charges and donations

[foggy path]

You just have a larger number of them doing it in general now, so of course you are going to have a lot of more generic ones

Most of what kids did back in the day was shit just like it is today

lol

[median wraith]

how dare you sir

[thick belfry]

I see it with kids in my neighbourhood, they're so obsessed with who has the coolest looking clothes (read: most expensive)

Kids tend to not know the value of money or how not to be idiots lol

Also on the parents not checking in in their kids though

[neat sluice]

Minecraft content has reached 1 trillion views on Youtube

[neat sluice]

That's really not exclusive to kids lmao

[foggy path]

Well I think most of that value of money stuff and such is on the parents and not the fault of the kids

[cursive crypt]

Aye, that the parent's work.

[foggy path]

Someone needs to give these people FPGAs so they can do something actually useful lol

sure

[thick belfry]

True but its also a government's job to regulate in order to prevent it from happening anyways

And companies should ideally be ethical (I know they always aren't but should still be called out)

[cursive crypt]

Heard China banned kids playing on computer for more than few hours per week.

[foggy path]

yeah good luck enforcing that

[thick belfry]

Not the worst ides just not enforceable

Except if you're a China type state

[foggy path]

I think it's stupid. I wouldn't be in my high paying programming job if I wasn't allowed to use the computer all day lol

[cursive crypt]

You spoiled brat.

You will program on notepad.

[foggy path]

I used to way back when

:P

[thick belfry]

It'll prepare you for your Google interview too

[foggy path]

oh you meant like an actual notepad and not notepad.exe?

lol

[thick belfry]

They make you write code in notepad.exe

[cursive crypt]

ofc, lmao

Once upon time, it was like "think first", code later. i.e. send the code to the auntie to enter it in the mainframe.

Fast builds are overrated.

[foggy path]

yeah

I once worked with a woman who used to do punch card stuff at the city hall here way back in the day

She wasn't doing any computer stuff noawadys though, more like administration and such

[cursive crypt]

I bet she punched hard.

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-wtf-is-this-gif-21019401

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/bass-bumpin-loud-music-car-gif-6223390

[tulip orbit]

I got a good sleep, so I should be able to get lots done on my game today right? ..... right?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-baymax-there-there-patting-head-pat-head-gif-4086973

Well, gifs are dead. Long live the gif.

This channel should be closed if this continue.

[tulip orbit]

yeah having to click on a link is too much

[unborn lotus]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/epic-megagrants-2021-update some cool projects out there

[median wraith]

Seriously ?

[cursive crypt]

? That an old plugin.

[median wraith]

They gave a devgrant to the NFTs company

Also yeah is an old thing by the company

[cursive crypt]

devgrant to who?

[median wraith]

to Daz

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-grimace-gross-no-gif-8084888

Gosh, that... so cringe.

[unborn lotus]

I read the new stalker will get nfts

[median wraith]

nice....

[cursive crypt]

Empowering players. Its all about them.

[median wraith]

well technically porn and nft are the same

both you pay for digital copies isn't it

🙃

[cursive crypt]

I don't think many pay for the former 🤔

[mossy nexus]

https://youtu.be/zetS4xo5eUs

[cursive crypt]

🤔

Is there an IDE?

Ah, its in UE. FoliageActor

[median wraith]

finally

we can all share the same tree

[cursive crypt]

lewd

[mossy nexus]

Learn how to use the new stuff at a metaverseitree?

[cursive crypt]

Dedicated editor is a must. Otherwise they will just stay as fancy, prebuilt assets.

Albeit customizable to certain extent.

[deep glen]

https://i.gyazo.com/699a8947fe43c9cf7eb1a2a652adaf81.png

https://i.gyazo.com/e4252a2e48daff3679dff69751ac6cc3.png
apparently the polish @undone hedge is suddenly Dutch XD

[median wraith]

This ones got a devgrant aparently

maybe now fix the game

[cursive crypt]

Well, 14 ain't even statistic.

[median wraith]

Some how the studios in here always the same ones get the devgrants and awards

[unborn lotus]

Do they still have the budget for it? 2022 is the year! (not 😆)

[tulip orbit]

I didnt get a grant 😦 ||so fuck y'all ;)||

[median wraith]

🤔

oh they gave money to public entities from my country

how cool

[bronze axle]

Pretty impressive round of grant recipients.

[median wraith]

I didn't knew they can give more than one devgrant per company on same batch, also not sure why Epic gives money to public money Universities ?

[tulip orbit]

🙂 I wasnt even game-deving during the submission period, so... that may be why 😄

yes!

or money to stop me from giving "help" on the answerhub

Ok interitus, we'll pay you $500 a month if you'll stop replying to every post saying to use more bananas

[fluid bloom]

the trees don't have billboards? 🤔

oh wait, they do

nevermind

speedtree works by baking vertex offsets into secondary and tertiary UV maps

so, probably the same way

[tulip orbit]

ask in #lounge and hope somebody answers?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-revice-kamen-rider-revi-kamen-rider-vice-kamen-rider-revice-short-movie-kamen-rider-gif-24015979

lounge?

[foggy path]

bad aim ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy nexus]

It's Pivot Painter 2.0 they used. If you've used or saw the foliage from Project Nature [made by the same guy, who now works for Quixel] you'll already know about it.

If it's done the same way, then the answer is nope. You can however easily add your own wind source and a little bit of code to link them both.

[torpid star]

Nanite doesn’t do WPO yet does it?

[quasi mantle]

I'm inclined to think getting WPO or vertex displacement working w/ Nanite is a herculean task

[last matrix]

but how about morph target?

[quasi mantle]

Morph target is just set of vertex displacements

[mint rune]

anyone familiar with gaea that could help with a quick qestion?

[cursive crypt]

Don't they have a discord? 🤔

[mint rune]

Ahh, didn't know they had one.

[cursive crypt]

?

oke

[median wraith]

Nanite cannot be used with Skeletal meshes, transparent static meshes or masked static meshes

[last matrix]

literally just dec sm models then

[median wraith]

Basically

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/RenderingAndGraphics/Materials/CurveAtlasesInMaterials/

Epic made a tool just for me

how cool

[last matrix]

thats pretty awesome

[torpid star]

No that’s mine

But we can share if you ask nicely

[cursive crypt]

For free?!

[torpid star]

extra premium free

[torpid star]

yesnt

[median wraith]

oh man the FXInteractive website is a pure joke

[cursive crypt]

Ofc, just add a driveable car.

[mossy nexus]

Damn straight you can!

[median wraith]

do someone knows whats the name of the gif about the dev placing a toilet ?

nvm

yep that one

[last matrix]

its too real 😣

Slayer plays in background

[median wraith]

By the way the company/project I'm working for was spotted in the Megagrants video 🙌

https://tenor.com/view/sammy-didonato-flirty-raising-eyebrows-flirting-boy-eyebrows-flirting-gif-15259447

didn't notice at the first tbh

[dense storm]

http://thegames.dev/snaps/mspaint_3prJEYTLeJ.png

i killed it

[median wraith]

what happpened ?

[broken sigil]

Rip

What happened?

[night grove]

Did paste get to the pins?

[broken sigil]

That shouldn't matter, paste should not be conductive, I know there are some that are but majority isn't

[dense storm]

it just died

that is all i know

ended up getting a 5900x whilst this one gets RMA'd

[hollow oriole]

Not here....

[oblique cloak]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dr-disrespect-opens-game-studio-midnight-society-with-ex-call-of-duty-and-halo-devs/1100-6499024/

[last matrix]

not really AAA until they actually have a game

[oblique cloak]

I know! I don't wanna say anything negative about this even tho i have a million things to say... lmfao.

[last matrix]

well he has two well experienced devs

from what i read

[oblique cloak]

Yeah i seen that

[last matrix]

and the project sounds related to their strengths

so no ignorance there

i guess "i worked at a AAA studio" = AAA

[oblique cloak]

Cant wait and see what this is all about.. but already 80k followers on twitter?

bots?

[last matrix]

its a streamer, already has a fan base

[oblique cloak]

true

[last matrix]

not suprising

if bots or not

lol

[oblique cloak]

lol

I guess I work at a AAA studio as well then

[last matrix]

Supercell? 😏

[oblique cloak]

registering for a business rn xD

[last matrix]

ah, businessperson = AAA

[median wraith]

jesus

That guy worked for Treyarch or Activision back in the days

[foggy path]

lol

a nerd fight on twitter, how quaint

NewBlood Kart featuring DrDisrespect

[deep glen]

bathroom privacy invasion simulator

[foggy path]

I wonder did they ever finish suing twitch in secret

[zinc matrix]

it will and it will be changed whenever that guy rages at playing it)))

[quasi mantle]

Didn't expecting DrDisrespect was indeed part of Sledgehammer Games

[dim ruin]

Thinking about making a total darkness simulator. With all the bells and whistles too. VR support + all platforms

4K support as well of course

Might have to crowd fund though. First reach goal: darker pixels

[zinc matrix]

that's a really ambitious goal, dunno man

[last matrix]

I kinda have the feeling like DrD is gunna make something good though

[ancient wren]

about to get myself into game development, I have .1% knowledge about making games so I thought to join this server, I have an idea for a game and just got unreal

[last matrix]

good job, you're on your way

[ancient wren]

yippee

[last matrix]

there are videos if you check the pins

[ancient wren]

ooOOoo why thank you

[zinc matrix]

0.1%? Already an expert

Jokes aside there is so much to learn

[dim ruin]

please proceed straight to #cpp

[zinc matrix]

You don't learn everything, you just learn what you need to learn in my experience

[dim ruin]

tell them Tank sent you

[ancient wren]

heck yeah 😎 i have (had) artwork and everything ready and started using gamemaker but decided to switch (my computer pooped and i lost all the artwork at least i think)

ohhh alright alright

[tulip orbit]

take any advice given in #lounge with a grain of salt.

[dim ruin]

lol

[ancient wren]

haha

[zinc matrix]

Advice such as this for example

[tulip orbit]

if you take advice here with two grains of salt, there may be unexpected side effects

[zinc matrix]

#lounge as we know it is the best place for seeking wisdom, not gamedev knowledge but "wisdom"

[ancient wren]

hahaha xD

oh lets go i found the artwork

some of it at least

[tulip orbit]

This is #lounge

[last matrix]

fashionable as always

[dim ruin]

So hey, I remember a while back, some mention about creating and editing animation sequences etc for rigged meshes being fully supported right inside the editor now.
Is that only through control rig?

[last matrix]

ask @oblique cloak

[dim ruin]

not sure who that is

[oblique cloak]

just keyframe your edits and run the record button

[dim ruin]

did they add the ability to create completely new sequences (not based on an existing one) of specific lengths?

[oblique cloak]

i have not tried that yet

[dim ruin]

We've been able to willy-nilly existing sequences into new ones for ages

[last matrix]

i honestly thought you had

[oblique cloak]

I might have. lol

I do much on the daily

[dim ruin]

control rig looks very nice and probably is the best way to do that. I just thought I remembered something else being a full-fledged option

[last matrix]

i want to believe in that as well

[dim ruin]

(probably will go control-rig route though)

[last matrix]

its control rig - its in the name 😛

[oblique cloak]

I have been changing my whole system over to control rig today >_<

[dim ruin]

or that I hate the evil purveyors of fbx...

the dreaded autodicks autodesk

[last matrix]

yeah well, unreal cant skin sk...... yet

[oblique cloak]

some good videos about this whole topic on youtube

[last matrix]

o i c

[dim ruin]

how has that been?

[oblique cloak]

the biggest pain in the ass of my whole life.

[dim ruin]

haha

figured

[oblique cloak]

im paying someone 500 dollars to fix this

[last matrix]

and not a single one thus far has provided me with an adequate replacement to outside software tools - skinning, rig + ctrls, anim

[oblique cloak]

YOO for real tho

NOTHING!

[last matrix]

and ive yet to use blender

mostly time more than anything

[dim ruin]

I need to mess with control rig a bunch but I think it seems like a much more suitable way to handle advanced locomotion than the way ALS community does

[oblique cloak]

the best method is using livelink with maya

[last matrix]

sure... 🙄 when it works

[oblique cloak]

lol

[last matrix]

you should get it up and running before planning your wedding

[dim ruin]

maya is the most seemless pipeline into UE4, 100%. I love blender but I fucking hate the hoops you have to jump through

[dim ruin]

I did. And I'm eying up control rig as a better solution for locomotion

instead of virtual bones, just have a whole damn rig lol

[last matrix]

the only thing i see it missing is skinning, otherwise i would zbrush to unreal

though zbrush and maxon.... who knows

[dim ruin]

ALS community is great, like really nice starting point but contorl rig looks like it would be perfect for it

ah yeah I heard about that aquisition today

[last matrix]

i guess next step is make an anim

[dim ruin]

a rig

[last matrix]

a rig*

[dim ruin]

[last matrix]

wait i thought there was one

[dim ruin]

the manny sample

[oblique cloak]

you need a big brain to replicate ALS in bp

no thank you

[dim ruin]

control rig should be able to handle anything though shouldn't it? Like even if you wanted to set up animal rigs etc

[oblique cloak]

lol

control rig works with anything

control rig + power ik = amazing.

[last matrix]

i could.... in maya >.>

[dim ruin]

yeah thats what I was thinking too from what I've seen so far

[last matrix]

that is the future though.... JUST. NEED. SKINNING

[dim ruin]

I don't use the bp version of ALS. Actually, I don't even use the ALS version of ALS anymore lol

I converted most of it to native

[oblique cloak]

lol truth

[dim ruin]

the replication code was kind of confusing tough. definitely messy. That code has had a lot of hands in the cookie jar

[oblique cloak]

To much going on in ALS. I understand the whole concept, just it has so much code that is almost useless

yupp!

[bronze axle]

Hello loungers.

[zinc matrix]

Hello pfist how are things?

[left granite]

am i a lounger

[tribal cipher]

ea?

[bronze axle]

Not bad. Working, blasting techno, eating Thai curry. How are you?

[hollow badge]

Greetins! How is everyone tonight?

Haven't had Thai curry, is it good?

[tulip orbit]

its not as good as Tim Curry

[hollow badge]

Ya got me there

[bronze axle]

It's delicious. Thai red curry is my favorite.

It usually consists of chicken, onion, garlic, bell pepper, Thai basil, kaffir lime leaves, and bamboo chutes in a sweet-and-spicy red curry sauce, over jasmine rice.

Or some variation of that.

[zinc matrix]

sounds délicieux

[ancient wren]

How the heck did you get your discord number to be 9999

[hollow badge]

Not much of a spicy person but if its to bring out flavor, I'm all for it

[zinc matrix]

nytrough

(nitro)

[bronze axle]

Nitro lets you customize the number.

That reminds me: do you guys know the Unreal Tournament easter egg in Discord?

[zinc matrix]

There is?

oh

is it the spam clicking on the id?

[bronze axle]

Yes. 😄

It's a fun one.

[zinc matrix]

Waiting for UT UE5 remake...

[bronze axle]

Heh.

[night grove]

#lounge is #food!

I'm about to throw some pork shoulder on the slow cooker for a 14 hour cook.

[bronze axle]

Nice! Sounds delicious.

[night grove]

15lbs of bbq awesomeness

[bronze axle]

I love BBQ.

[tulip orbit]

See you in 14hrs 🙂

[night grove]

Anyone can come!

lol

Though I'm in the middle of no-where USA

[bronze axle]

Man, imagine a Slackers bbq.

[night grove]

I do overnight BBQ cooks quite often tbh

[tulip orbit]

oh. I aint travelling to the states, even for bbq

[night grove]

It's my favorite thing. Lasts quite a while and can be made into just about anything

It is a lot cheaper to cook it myself too

Around here good BBQ is about $15 to $20 per lbs

But I can get 15lbs of meat for $30

The fuel is only around $15 for the cook

[last matrix]

i can make that

[tulip orbit]

nice. ue5 crashed while trying to auto save 🙂

[left granite]

so are you from Thailand pfist ?

[bronze axle]

No.

I just like Thai food.

[ancient wren]

Pfist what games have you made im interested

[bronze axle]

I have a short retro horror game coming out soon.

I've worked on a lot of client projects that either aren't games or are unreleased. 'Tis the freelancer life.

I've made a few game jam entries over the years, too.

[night grove]

Not just freelancer's life

I've a share of unreleased / cancelled projects from salary jobs

[bronze axle]

Fair point. 😅

It's pretty common in game dev generally speaking.

Not having much of a real portfolio means all of my clients are word of mouth.

I've been getting a lot of film/music video client work in recent years, though.

[night grove]

Even as an engineer, portfolio is important

I get a huge leg up on interviews by bringing screenshots of apps and games I've made

It makes it a lot easier to describe my contributions when they can see the game in front of them

[bronze axle]

I worked on a music video for Steve Aoki and an ad campaign for a podcast starring Paul Rudd.

[quasi mantle]

TFW an upcoming game coincidentally paired your real name and your ex's name

Like, I'm sure it's coincidence, because none of the people working on it contacted me, but still the name pairing coincidence hit me hard

https://youtu.be/w5Fydi6MpfM

[ancient wren]

Dang

[last matrix]

i believe west of loathing has a dev and their ex in credits

[left granite]

👍 cool

[quasi mantle]

My real first name is Rama, and, well... You can guess what my ex's first name is.

[quasi mantle]

Except that I didn't have any involvement on Afterlove at all.
I'm really sure it's a coincidence, but the PTSD trigger...

[night grove]

Breakups are hard enough. It would be brutal to have a reminder like that

[last matrix]

oh, i see what you mean now

[last matrix]

well if its any consellation, Conrad the Lonely Tree Stump from Ed, Edd, and Eddy had me bothered for longer that it shouldve

[left granite]

mira ?

[last matrix]

cintra

[left granite]

oh wait it is cinta

[left granite]

ye ye thanks

i saw

BTW oof

maybe the dev group is led by your ex

maybe

[quasi mantle]

I know it's just a name pairing coincidence, I know only like 15% of the event matches (I am from Jakarta, though I did move out)...

But, damn, this hits harder than it should

[night grove]

Must be recent, my condolences

If it is any consolation, it gets easier with time

[left granite]

but hey at least you are in a game

[quasi mantle]

It was 3 years ago, but the PTSD lasts quite long. It's a long event of betrayal and manipulation

[quasi mantle]

I can put "myself" in a game at will, but thanks anyway

[left granite]

i am not good with relationships so....

idk

[zinc matrix]

what are we calling the female mannequin?

[quasi mantle]

I don't know if I should reach out to the devs about this
I mean, only small part of the event matches, including name pairings

[left granite]

quin

[quasi mantle]

Brb wasting my tears