im not joking btw
#lounge
last matrix
night grove
I miss S. Korea. I need to get back there some day.
So much good food that I don't know the names for
Only place where mystery meat was actually delicious
last matrix
yeah they just sorta bring out a bunch of stuff and then you figure it out (at least here in the states)
night grove
I haven't found a good Korean place in the states yet
last matrix
i know of one, but only because they have lotus root
cant be the original though im sure
just like japanese mcdonalds cant beat ameri- wait a minute
last matrix
when in rome, expect bricks of cheese
tulip orbit
who's making me lunch? I'm hungry!
No, but if you could supply the pizza, thatd be great 🙂
median wraith
tulip orbit
😦 thanks for trying
cursive crypt
9+ gigs of RAM for a pizza 🤔
drifting quest
how many coders here also do gamedesign?
tulip orbit
I think most of us here do every aspect of their projects
tulip orbit
my code is more spaghetti than pizza
drifting quest
really?
cursive crypt
my code is more spaghetti than pizza
Sauce?
drifting quest
like the rational but like the creative even more
tulip orbit
Apothic Dark
cursive crypt
drifting quest
try rioja @tulip orbit best one
tulip orbit
if I remember. It'll be a while before I buy more wine. Dont drink much anymore
median wraith
I'm from La Rioja
drifting quest
I'm from La Rioja
you must be drunk all day long?
median wraith
Yeah but not that way, I'm like Obelix fall into the wine when were young, so now I'm phunny all the time
drifting quest
well i love spain
tulip orbit
I came off my meds a month ago, but I still dont drink very much.
and cause I went without drinking so long, I'm a super lightweight. One beer and a glass of wine last night, had a bit of a headache this morning 😦
median wraith
well that have an easy solution
get only one of both or stop drinking
🤷♂️
It's true the people in Canada is more open ?
last matrix
gl cutting that
night grove
What gamers see
burnt lake
What gamers see
quasi mantle
!sded
last matrix
lays brand soda? where has this been all my life?
oh wait, nvm, that's just bread soda.... 😞
tulip orbit
the can is mostly air
deep glen
carbohydrated air
last matrix
angry air, like pop rocks
quasi mantle
carbohydrated air
Ah yes
Dry ice
tulip orbit
I just finished "Graveyard Keeper" Now I dont have an excuse for not working on my own game 😓
...unless I find a new excuse...🤔
viral solar
real
zinc matrix
"wow the fact of how real this engine is in itself is unreal"
quasi mantle
Morphing I guess
last matrix
ascii art?
zinc matrix
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189034966003220482/917930038932951040/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189034966003220482/917930039188783144/unknown.png im a tiny bit scared of my creation
tulip orbit
thats an odd looking penis.
fathom wadi
reminds me of that time I... wait... no I dont want to be reminded of that time. ¬_¬
bronze axle
That gif is making me hungry.
last matrix
https://tenor.com/view/nom-nom-eating-slimer-ghostbusters-gif-15779130
whoa, those are straight up human arms
zinc matrix
whoa, those are straight up human arms
special fx back then.. got me slappin my neck
zinc matrix
tulip orbit
ugh. Tired but cant sleep. Wonder if theres enough brain power to do some gamedev?
cursive crypt
Gets tired when working.
Goes to bed.
Feels refreshed, can't sleep.
tulip orbit
wouldnt say I feel refreshed :p
cursive crypt
Yeah, bad words, more like... brain dead.
quasi mantle
ugh. Tired but cant sleep. Wonder if theres enough brain power to do some gam...
Have some snack.
tulip orbit
maaybe
last matrix
cocaine?
tulip orbit
too expensive
last matrix
cocaine?
tulip orbit
no thank you?
cursive crypt
f drugs
last matrix
rustic flare
Hey there, i've composed my music
For my upcoming game
How does it sound?
I need some critics
soft night
unreal slackers spacestation
foggy path
:D
soft night
powered by UE5
cursive crypt
What's the oh dear for?
#lounge is getting VIP only.
zinc matrix
What's the oh dear for?
discord mods actually being paid
I don't mind what happens though
The management of this server is very cool
foggy path
lol
fluid bloom
wind and solar power sure are useful in Finland
317 MW from wind, 4 MW from solar
😄
foggy path
there are methods to extract energy from temperature change but I don't know how well it actually scales beyond tiny amounts :P
torpid star
mossy nexus
Make snowballs, throw snowballs at a really really basic turbine and there ya go. Powa
or maybe an ultra light turbine that snow flakes can turn?
cursive crypt
Hmm... I suppose most stuff carries, point is, can you power up your toaster?
median wraith
Ubisoft just relased that thing
now my question is, how you can claim you did NFT if you add the content to every client
isn't then owned by them, all ?
median wraith
Did the ex gf of Elon said the people could generate money and energy by just playing games ?
For all the retired people
lol
This days the people have a lot of gadgets to do exercises
Imagine if you plug all these to the network to generate power
more efficient than the wind generators
😆
median wraith
so about 20 days to end the year
whats the most stupid reply you had from someone this year ?
carmine frigate
game chats included?
median wraith
well in person is better but game chat included
carmine frigate
prolly get cancer and die than 😛
median wraith
oh but that's a common from MOBA games and such
carmine frigate
something along those lines
median wraith
someone back in the days added me to friends in Paragon to tell me that
in spanish, and he thought I didn't know spanish
but some stupid-funny ? @carmine frigate non pure insults etc
"Isn't like I don't like short dudes, I have plenty of short friends."
Maybe is my pick for the year
carmine frigate
well with the corona thing making ppl flipnuts i heared a lott of weird replies 😛
median wraith
Welp yea... insults too and things, but trying to get the absurd one thats funny XD
left granite
i have been called gay couple times (and i am not)
median wraith
Oh yeah that used to be a common here, this days makes no sense
Also there is people that thinks if call you something 10 times you will turn into whatever they call you
left granite
foggy path
Also there is people that thinks if call you something 10 times you will turn in...
Is this why there are so many assholes heyo
median wraith
Welp there is plenty of them, but don't think is because of that xd
quasi mantle
lmao same
Little did they know 3.0 is not as huge gap from 2.9x, nor it brought brand new paradigm
2.8 should've been the REAL 3.0, due to how huge of a change that was compared to 2.7x
quasi mantle
Yeah, but if this is 3.30, less people would bat an eye on it.
By definition of Semantic Versioning, Blender got it wrong.
Man, I had a lot of C++ debugging, with many assortment of weird errors.
If I'm able to tame compiler like this, who knows if I'm able to tame future girlfriend (if I get one, that is - tbh I kinda lost hope on romance, been thinking about being realistically single in old age)
cursive crypt
Errors ain't so hard, just verbose.
tulip orbit
Man, I had a lot of C++ debugging, with many assortment of weird errors.
If I'm...
I havent tamed my compiler yet, but I'm also single. it aint so bad
quasi mantle
Guess I'll do fine, even I do end up single in old age.
It's just that with my traumatic failures (and seeing relatives getting their romantic partners), I'm getting even less optimistic and harder to see myself having a girlfriend in the future and surviving relationship past marriage.
But yeah, at this point I'm just going to take what I can get in that regard. If it ended up lovey dovey, good. If it ended up forever alone, so be it. I'm still taking care of myself either way.
fathom wadi
buy a love doll. Way more practical. Plus it doesn't talk unless you pay for the added extras.
cursive crypt
Who was posting these? https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ubisoft-nft-quartz-youtube-dislikes/
quasi mantle
buy a love doll. Way more practical. Plus it doesn't talk unless you pay for the...
I'd make my own with Unreal, AI, and AR technology, thank you very much
mossy nexus
Who was posting these? https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ubisoft-nft-quar...
Erm you did? 😄
fathom wadi
Who was posting these? https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ubisoft-nft-quar...
youtube's opinion is rarely worth even a Blizzard NFT tbh :p Plus it doesn't matter how many dislikes these things get, NFTs are the future of game asset distribution and youtube's like ratio (which is now 100% because they got rid of dislikes) means less than nothing. I'm looking forward to it tbh. It gives indie devs the best money making system since battlepass
quasi mantle
I don't really need sex, I just need at least someone more personal to talk with.
If I'm craving for sex, I could quench it with renting prostitutes, even if it could cause turmoil in personal spendings.
fathom wadi
you can get meaningful conversation on discord. Unless you join the unreal lounge chat :p
fathom wadi
tulip orbit
quasi mantle
NFT sounds like something that's too good to be true, multi level marketing scheme.
One of my long lost (contact) friend was rumoured to lose a lot of money from vicious ponzi scheme of an alternative medicine company, because his branch fall short.
fathom wadi
the best thing about NFTs is it doesn't matter if the content is utter shite, as long as someone feels it's worth something to them.
quasi mantle
I was nearly fall for those MLM scheme, until I somehow forget about it and moving on.
fathom wadi
selling game assets is perfect for it. Having exclusive generated items in RNG games is something I've wanted to develop for many years. I have a method that aligns with NFT perfectly and could make a shitload of money if done right. But being that this is me we are talking about, I'll fk it up somehow.
quasi mantle
Hmm, sounds like something mobile gacha players done with account trading...
fathom wadi
I have a USP for it but I'm not sharing that here. Otherwise someone else might steal the idea and fk it up before I do :p
cursive crypt
Erm you did? 😄
nah, I wouldn't - it was someone else 🤔
bronze rock
I have a USP for it but I'm not sharing that here. Otherwise someone else might ...
a platformer game... with a twist
fathom wadi
yeah every platform is an NFT.
bronze rock
you fool, i've just made you reveal your USP!!!
fathom wadi
it's ok, I'll just sell audio NFT's instead and make them from metasounds.
quasi mantle
USP? the handgun?
fathom wadi
unique scamming point
tulip orbit
Some days i feel like id be more productive if i moved my computer in front of the 🚽
tulip orbit
So is diaper rash
fathom wadi
I have my computer in a room with the other 6 people in the house. I get distracted every 5 seconds.
tulip orbit
I get distracted that often too, but nobody here with me
mossy nexus
Delete the other 6 people or at least put them in an endless loop.
fathom wadi
i've been tempted to move my desk into my bedroom but I have to put my youngest kid in there soon (as he sleeps in the living room currently) so there won't be enough room. 7 people in a 3 bedroom house is untenable
cursive crypt
Roof?
tulip orbit
either need to get a bigger place, or cull the population
carmine frigate
sell em for parts
cursive crypt
I colleague of mine made a nest for himself, in the attic. Kinda cool.
mossy nexus
i've been tempted to move my desk into my bedroom but I have to put my youngest ...
i've been tempted to move my desk into my bedroom but I have to put my youngest kid in there soon (as he sleeps in the living room currently) so there won't be enough room. 7 people in a 3 bedroom house is untenantable
Fixed it for you.
zinc matrix
tulip orbit
7 people in a 3 bedroom house is untenable
Actually, its very "ten"able. cause 7+3 =10
tulip orbit
if its haunted it can be
cursive crypt
Hmm... you right 🤔
fathom wadi
honestly im not sure what to do. I've planned to restart work in January but I need space and some quiet. If I don't get things started soon, I'd be better off giving up game dev and shovelling shit for a living.
tulip orbit
I'd say you could come shovel shit at my sisters farm, but we already emptied the cow barn
cursive crypt
Can you go somewhere else? I had a friend who even hired a small room out of his place so he can go there and focus.
fathom wadi
if I could afford to rent an office I would but I need to earn some cash first.
cursive crypt
Well, might be not an office. Friends/other family member place or something. Hell even a garage.
fathom wadi
I dont have any friends
cursive crypt
You are not making this easy, huh?
fathom wadi
its not me, I want to work. Its everything else around me not making it easy.
cursive crypt
I joke, but I understand well, lol.
fathom wadi
All my friends disappeared once I stopped being a social alcoholic like they were. I stopped all that to become a game dev and suddenly they all stopped phoning, etc
carmine frigate
A friend of mine joined the local volunteer firefighters so he could use some of the stuff in their garage
fathom wadi
I think I just need a larger home. Or perhaps just to leave.
Im not doing my family any favours by sitting on my arse complaining I cant work in this environment
carmine frigate
he said is was a fun thing to do... he got to punch the windows out of a super expensive car cuz it was parked infront of a hydrant
median wraith
tulip orbit
Wow, ok. I just added a player character to my vehicle game, just realised how tiny the default vehicle is
its like.... go-kart size
bronze rock
its like.... go-kart size
compared to the environment though?
fathom wadi
maybe its not small. maybe its just far away ¬_¬
tulip orbit
its sized alright to the world included in the template
Hmm. a real world buick sedan is 69.4 inches, the ue vehicle is 73...
it looks so small!
Hmm... nope is small. "approx size" in the skelmesh window is off or misleading?
cursive crypt
inches 😬
tulip orbit
69.4 in (1,763 mm)
cursive crypt
32.912 in = ?
tulip orbit
ue4 vehicle is about 1m wide
cursive crypt
Nice.
quasi mantle
69.4 in (1,763 mm)
Thank you for adding metric measurements.
tulip orbit
That cube its on is approx the overall dimensions of an oldschool buick sedan
cursive crypt
Hmm. a real world buick sedan is 69.4 inches, the ue vehicle is 73...
Wait, you said the vehicle is 73 inches, which is more than 1.8 meters?
cursive crypt
ue4 vehicle is about 1m wide
But then ^
quasi mantle
That cube its on is approx the overall dimensions of an oldschool buick sedan
What about Jeep / 4x4 cars? It seem to be more offroad car type
tulip orbit
I think maybe I was misreading? skelmesh window says Approx size: 306x186x125
so 125 must be the width, not the height
tulip orbit
I dunno where its getting 306
fathom wadi
Peugeot
cursive crypt
lol
fathom wadi
think I spelled that wrong but the joke is still valid
nope spelled it right. Thank the lord for my pre-1066 French ancestry
tulip orbit
186 seems to be the length.
cursive crypt
Should be Y, i.e. width.
Okay... anyway. Take a ruler and measure in the viewport.
tulip orbit
I placed a cube in the vehicle pawn, 1.8x 1.25y
with antennae, its under 1m tall
whatever, its definately way too small
quasi mantle
Felt like 4x4 RC car, given the antennae already.
tulip orbit
started modelling a new car in blender. Starting ok 🙂
mossy nexus
A working ignition and engine! Super job!
tulip orbit
well, dont have that yet. half hour of modelling so its still a vaguely car-shaped brick
median wraith
oh oh ohhh Happy Blockchain
mossy nexus
Merry Cyptomess
cursive crypt
Tezos, f really
median wraith
That comes candy because is the Ubisoft purpose
oh oh ohh Now I have a machine gun skin
cursive crypt
You don't have even that meme, Hevedy, have you paid for it?
median wraith
Banned
cursive crypt
nft or die
median wraith
I do remember post MW2 release I started to feel bad on lootboxes
cursive crypt
Anyway, it looks interesting how some gamers think that nft-ing their favorite pinkish hat means it can be transferred between games.
Little they know, how bad this will work out.
mossy nexus
This is my art. I made this, right now and for the low low low price of £100,000 I'll sell you the NFT for it.
median wraith
And my first opinion were... the world is already so fooked that they should allow access to all the game elements to every player, they have an enough bad life
after that the lootboxes growth
and then this happened
mossy nexus
Loot boxes with a 0.00000000000001 chance to win a chance to buy a NFT?
cursive crypt
If you pay 100$ for a booster, you can up to .00000001 chance
Share, tweet or bring a friend and you get another 100% hot boost, up to .0001 chance!
Off to bed, my base encoder seems to work.
mossy nexus
This is a PSA: Only two days until season 6 of The Expanse. The final series. If you start watching the entire 5 seasons now you will be all caught up by Friday and you can go straight into season 6.
tulip orbit
too busy rewatching Stranger Things for its next season
median wraith
.2 is out then
dim ruin
Life is Feudal threw in the towel? Wussies
knew that mfer would never make it out of early access
sad though. Would have been great to see it make it
foggy path
I have a theory why we are going to see blockchain adaptation for random stuff and data storage in games
It doesn't cost anything for the game company :P
It costs to "mint" nft's and stuff I think, but after the initial cost it has nothing associated with it so who knows...
tulip orbit
haha... woo. it looks like crap, but I finally got it working.
I dont, but I didnt do any UV mapping, so the checkerboard looked worse
yeah, gonna call it "yo momma"
zinc matrix
lol
solar nebula
haha... woo. it looks like crap, but I finally got it working.
Car
tulip orbit
yes, car 🙂
solar nebula
Why?
tulip orbit
why car? vehicle based game
solar nebula
That just breeds more questions now
tulip orbit
like what?
solar nebula
Why based and not cringe?
tulip orbit
vehicle cringe game?
tulip orbit
might add trucks later
timber viper
Can anyone recommend a project management tool that is not that heavyweight for individuals?
last matrix
your noggin
zinc matrix
vitamins! i am dying
night grove
Can anyone recommend a project management tool that is not that heavyweight for ...
It's probably cringe, but I just use notepad++. I've tried a bunch and they always end up with more overhead than it's worth to track my backlog.
Or sticky notes on occasion as well (the true original backlog tool)
timber viper
Haha yeah 😄 I'm actually a fan of pen and paper
But later on I'll need to demonstrate the projects roadmap and tasks to other people that possibly going to join the team later on
So sadly my favorite methods are not an option 😦 I guess I'll end up using JIRA again
night grove
But later on I'll need to demonstrate the projects roadmap and tasks to other pe...
This right here is the biggest weakness of notepad++ as a backlog. I keep detailed commit logs though.
If you have the money, I think devtrack (can't recall name) was the best one I tried because it had perforce integration
Might have been a tool from the studio I worked at that provided the integration though
Project management software that doesn't integrate directly into your commit logs and bug database are essentially worthless
last matrix
and github is out of the question? cant it track some shit?
quasi mantle
and github is out of the question? cant it track some shit?
Inb4 GitHub and other source control providers are defenestrated in this regard
last matrix
Inb4 GitHub and other source control providers are defenestrated in this regard
yeah, good point, i guess its loose napkins and the backs of scratch paper
celest musk
github has projects and you could use issue tracker, too
you could just create an empty repository and use those tools :>
last matrix
no no no, stone tablets and carrier pigeons
bronze axle
Can anyone recommend a project management tool that is not that heavyweight for ...
What are your needs besides being lightweight? I can probably make recommendations since I work alone much of the time.
timber viper
What are your needs besides being lightweight? I can probably make recommendatio...
I'm looking for an solution that can provide a timeline to manage deadlines and a simple board or to-do list
So far, I found Asana and it looks cool. Though it's also made for teams but it's UI and navigation not that difficult compared to other applications I've used
bronze axle
Do you use Dropbox?
celest musk
what do you dislike about github?
except that it doesn't really have a timeline feature
but you could create different categories and sort things in different columns
bronze axle
But I can, if it does provide something like that?
Yes. They have an app called Dropbox Paper. It's a Google Docs-like editor, but it also allows you to embed timelines and have simple task lists with due dates.
celest musk
timber viper
what do you dislike about github?
I did not even know github had project management features 😶 Timeline is the most important thing I'm looking for but I'll still look at it, thanks for the input
bronze axle
You might also look at Notion. It's completely free for personal use. I use it a lot to store all my design docs, ideas, etc. It allows you to structure your documents very freeform, and also has timelines, task lists, and you can view a data as a board similar to Trello.
celest musk
yea trello is probably more advanced than the github stuff
bronze axle
If you're already using GitHub, I actually second Ben's recommendation. They recently made a significant improvement to GitHub issues and Projects. I use it to manage all of my solo game dev projects, and even my music projects.
There's no timeline view like Notion and Dropbox Paper have, but you can track due dates, status, and add custom fields to projects, so it might not be necessary depending on your needs.
timber viper
I see, those were interesting ideas. Thanks ❤️
bronze axle
And Notion for comparison. https://www.notion.so/product
One of my favorite features of Notion is that a doc is treated like a database. When you create, say, a kanban board, you can create alternate views of the same data.
So you can view the data of that kanban board as a calendar, a list, etc.
timber viper
It looks good indeed
bronze axle
The latest update to GitHub Issues works really well for my brain, though, so I've been trying that out.
I'm kind of old school with project management. I write my daily tasks on a whiteboard.
This view from GitHub Issues is intuitive and helpful for me personally:
I love being able to keep tasks in a simple list, but categorize them like that in obvious ways.
There are some really nice options out there for us solo workers. 😄
timber viper
Yeah, I always liked the design philosophy of GitHub
bronze axle
What I like about GitHub is that it will be easy to invite others in the future if a project expands.
timber viper
What I like about GitHub is that it will be easy to invite others in the future ...
And that's why I'm going to use GitHub over Notion now
bronze axle
Notion lets you do that, too, but it's only free for personal use. Once you invite team members, you have to pay per user.
timber viper
Thanks for the ideas and taking time to explaining them, I really appreciate it
bronze axle
Absolutely. 🙂
I've been in your position, so I figured I'd chime in.
GitHub lets me be old school when I want to, which I appreciate.
I even started using it to manage my release strategy when I make music.
I create an issue for each song, and I have a template that comes with all the tasks I need, ready to go.
timber viper
I just realized you're making music btw . I liked the waves on Youtube 👌
bronze axle
Thanks! It's been lately because I started making visuals with UE5.
Perfect excuse to learn the new tools.
quasi mantle
you could just create an empty repository and use those tools :>
Or accidentally make a honeypot repo to deter piracy for your code plugin
The issue tracking repo alone is MIT licence, and have a dummy boilerplate code in it.
left granite
last matrix
https://y.yarn.co/9a5d9d03-fab1-499e-ae83-760d8d5b0880_text.gif
yo, blue hair spike dude is the game over man from aliens
tulip orbit
yup
left granite
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000200/
👍
left granite
https://c.tenor.com/QvWBrfv2XjkAAAAM/bill-paxton.gif
zinc matrix
Classic lounge
tulip orbit
Classic lounge
left granite
what are we talking about now ?
zinc matrix
last matrix
we're talking about pizza, cmon people!
tulip orbit
left granite
we're talking about pizza, cmon people!
left granite
tulip orbit
left granite
last matrix
seems like none of us feel like working right now
zinc matrix
I need to pick a channel to lurk around whenever someone comes with a question I can answer
left granite
seems like none of us feel like working right now
lol yee
left granite
I need to pick a channel to lurk around whenever someone comes with a question I...
i am always on lounge
tulip orbit
I was working, till y'all started replying to me
left granite
I was working, till y'all started replying to me
yee i know
joe told me
tulip orbit
I need to pick a channel to lurk around whenever someone comes with a question I...
me too, but there's no channels on scratching your bum
damnit joe!
last matrix
I was working, till y'all started replying to me
yeah sure
zinc matrix
guess I'll lurk around on blueprints
although physics can get interesting
as in "just apply collision bro"
left granite
damnit joe!
damn it
i thought you will who is joe
left granite
as in "just apply collision bro"
lol
tulip orbit
I do know a joe, and its something he'd do
left granite
I do know a joe, and its something he'd do
hm
left granite
https://c.tenor.com/lZ-aHVPR6R4AAAAM/shortshorts-joe-swanson.gif
\ ^ /
last matrix
although physics can get interesting
i guess i checked in at the wrong time, all i saw was diagrams.... scientific diagrams.
tulip orbit
those are the worst kind of diagrams 😦
zinc matrix
tulip orbit
cursive crypt
gosh, I hate cmake
shell rapids
gosh, I hate cmake
But why?
digital quartz
sup
fallow finch
Nice update
digital quartz
Would someone be kind enough to recommend me a decent and reasonably up to date book? I haven't used unreal in 10 years and well, yeah. Going to need more help than I thought. A lot more. Very familiar with C/C++ and somewhat familiar with Unity
Would be immensely grateful
quasi mantle
Would someone be kind enough to recommend me a decent and reasonably up to date ...
There might be not much book out there when it comes to UE4 specific, especially up to date one, but general C++ programming and graphics programming books could help you later down the line.
shell rapids
Would someone be kind enough to recommend me a decent and reasonably up to date ...
There is also learn.unrealengine.com with a lot of nice, easy to follow lessons.
cursive crypt
But why?
Starting from the idea to have separate tool to produce build scripts for other build tools through the lame idea for custom language.
shell rapids
Starting from the idea to have separate tool to produce build scripts for other ...
Not sure what you mean.
The primary advantage of cmake is to provide a cross-platform build solution: generate makefiles on linux, VS files on windows, and I believe xcode files on mac. (This is significantly better than maintaining separate build system per platform or swinging your own build system.)
cursive crypt
I meant what I wrote. I work primary on cross-platform projects and cmake ain't adding anything but troubles.
On other hand, we are not so diverse of I use that IDE or that IDE or that another IDE.
shell rapids
What’s the alternative? Would you prefer Google’s Ninja?
shell rapids
For me personally, I prefer to work from the terminal. Lots of building in a terminal cmake .. && make is what I usually run on linux. This is also possible on mac; as well as windows thanks to clang.
Then I use VSCode for all my code writing, code completion, and file organization.
JetBrains has some nice IDEs as well
I don’t know; I’ve just been using cmake for all my projects for years. Never had to worry about what platform or IDE I was going to use or how/where to specify flags and dependencies (a real nightmare in VS).
cursive crypt
For me, if a project is a small, I use Python based system (e.g. Waf). I also don't worry about running it on win/lin/wsl/etc. It is one file, it is Python. I won't bother learning quirks of other tools and I can do a ton of things outside its purpose, dedicated to the project. Ofc, it is a bit lower-level and sometimes I do pass custom flags to given compiler.
shell rapids
I can accept that. Python is used to program my Espressif ESP boards.
The python versioning (a py subject in general) is just a little annoying to me. Specifically Py2.7 scripts are not always compatible with Py3.x.
cursive crypt
Well, yeah, legacy systems. However a lot of stuff has moved from 2.x so it is a light.
shell rapids
Curious, does python have a typings solution similar to typescript for nodejs (something that can at least tell me what types to expect)?
cursive crypt
Not familiar with the latter, so can't answer 🙂
Like hinting you what is the type of an object while you write code or?
shell rapids
Yes, that.
Most of my time in python code is spent trying to figure out what types are being passed around in oss.
cursive crypt
Hmm... 🤔 not sure, I mean one of the general philosophies was if it quacks, then it is a duck. Or something along the lines.
I guess, an IDE tool with some nice IntelliSense can help with that a lot. Tho I think I heard something... eeh, I dunno - dyor 🙂
I mean, not sure its your case, but if you are getting to know a function say, you better check on the net, because the documentation is much more rich + examples + funny comments. There is no IDE which provides such sophisticated help, even BrainJets products.
shell rapids
Guess it’s just one of those frustrations I need to get over. 🤷🏻♂️
tulip orbit
🥳
cursive crypt
Nice, you can move pixels on screen 👍
unborn lotus
that's a feature 😆
tulip orbit
in my game! tho.. I'll probably never utilize it...
just felt like trying to see if I could do it
quasi mantle
I'm not even sure how GTA V is able to blend the blurred mesh with the unblurred one for rotary things, even in slomo
celest musk
gta v is highly optimized for console etc. so i guess they are faking the blur
celest musk
naw, look at the wheels. back wheels turn the opposite direction
even some real cars do this (probably more than you would have thought)
fluid bloom
yea I don't think motion blurring can really handle rotational stuff
it uses the motion vectors to do that and I think the vectors are simple linear vectors that point from the previous frame to current frame positions of each pixel
or so, I have no idea 😄
unborn lotus
isn't a radial motion blur a new feature in UE? maybe from this year, can't remember
fluid bloom
cursive crypt
SquareBlur
left granite
that's a feature 😆
aka MOJANG
quasi mantle
gta v is highly optimized for console etc. so i guess they are faking the blur
Well, they did fake the blur in ALL versions, I just don't know how do they do that while also using "unblurred" mesh in low time dilation or pause frame in Rockstar Editor.
Did manny auto message !stream command posted in the server?
!stream
cursive crypt
cursive crypt
Don't you have a bell alarm after a successful build? 🤔
I don't, lol, but I think MSVS had 🤔
Ah, yes, good
Nah... oof, I don't remember, might have been R# or something. I clearly remember one quite "ding" when a build was ending.
Or was it UE4 related 🤔
Anyway, that's good idea for a plugin.
I doubt I ever compiled from the Editor,
Aah... I think it was Live++
When it was repatching back.
Gosh, haven't started VS+UE since month prolly. Doing only other work.
haha... well, if you have other work?
I just recently got to know one artist doing currently mainly UI work. It ain't small work, lol.
You can spend weeks on it 🤔
quasi mantle
Nah... oof, I don't remember, might have been R# or something. I clearly remembe...
If you want to, you can actually change UE4's compile sound cues in the Engine Content,
pearl elk
change them all to Samuel L Jackson quotes from Pulp Fiction
quasi mantle
Gotta enjoy that F-bomb avalanche from the mighty Samuel L mothafuckin Jackson
pearl elk
This is a tasty burger
cursive crypt
Just had two carrot/shroom burgers 👍
rare sparrow
I want to believe it sounds like this https://youtu.be/dbKwMq8OoRs
stiff crystal
that radial motion blur is more of a material example rather than engine feature
it's part of unreal content examples
has been for like few years now
cursive crypt
I want to believe it sounds like this https://youtu.be/dbKwMq8OoRs
Is this a freaking 1 hour of dinging?
stiff crystal
that looping work though
rare sparrow
drifting quest
when will The Matrix Awakens be relased in the epic store?
pearl elk
when you sleep
drifting quest
when i take the red or blue pill?
pearl elk
what if I told you those arnt pills youre taking
drifting quest
lobo is so 90, a total recall
pearl elk
the 90s were a very exciting time
wonder if the new Matrix will have iPhones yet
even Superman dont use phone booths anymore
cursive crypt
No need, he can just teleport to whoever he is talking to.
pearl elk
I wonder if the new Matrix will be more like a Moba
cursive crypt
Nah, they will just lock certain movie details behind a paywall.
pearl elk
wear AR goggles in the cinema and you can pay for character skins
pearl elk
super people with old wooden rifles
cursive crypt
They might be super eco??
pearl elk
people act like polymers havent been in heavy use since the 70s
super eco by chopping down trees to make weapons?
pearl elk
you could make stocks out of the bones of your enemies
all natural
us Aussies got this Mad Max thing down... that was also in the 70s 😛
quasi mantle
NGL, CJK developers have the best looking character designs, particularly female ones.
pearl elk
Im gonna wait for the sequel Ordinary People
deep glen
and the spinoff "amazon workers"
pearl elk
theyre gonna battle against the Activision Strikers
cursive crypt
That would be an Uber Soft battle.
stiff crystal
But wait, where is Super cat?
super worked for superhot and supercell still
gotta admit that superhot made zero sense
pearl elk
my game is Superb 😮
pearl elk
Super Engine
cursive crypt
Need a new hero, a coder!
fallow finch
How to get 1M$ daily
pearl elk
scam someone out of all their bitcoins
fallow finch
1M$+ **
fallow finch
scam someone out of all their bitcoins
Or be Elon Musk 
pearl elk
I thought he did scam people with cryptos too hmm 😛
fallow finch
If i have 1 bitcoin i can live 5 years without work
ivory zenith
Who is the best programmer
fallow finch
Who is the best programmer
The one who invented programm language
ivory zenith
Bill gate?
quasi mantle
Bill gate?
Not even close lol
ivory zenith
Terry A. Davis
fallow finch
I dont think bill gate have programming skills xD
quasi mantle
Terry A. Davis
Yes
ivory zenith
God given intellect
pearl elk
Ken Perlin
cursive crypt
I dont think bill gate have programming skills xD
He has, or had.
fallow finch
Oh nice
cursive crypt
Ken Perlin
Chuck Norris.
quasi mantle
I dont think bill gate have programming skills xD
I'd say he's more of a businessman, if anything. MS-DOS wasn't even solely made by him, the first versions were basically commissions to make CP/M clone for IBM, because Gary Kildall was pretty much procrastinating when IBM execs arrive
left granite
i went away for like 5 secs and i got 50+ messages
pearl elk
You need to learn Kung Fu to keep up
left granite
You need to learn Kung Fu to keep up
cursive crypt
Wiki 🤷♂️
cursive crypt
It has hive mind.
fallow finch
Also
quasi mantle
Life lesson: don't procrastinate when you're expected to negotiate for a deal, or someone else beat you to it
fallow finch
I need life lesson let me learn CPP
pearl elk
life or CPP, choose one
fallow finch
CPP then
cursive crypt
ccp?
pearl elk
according to what Ive read, C# is more popular 😮
fallow finch
Deleting after posting 😋
cursive crypt
according to what Ive read, C# is more popular 😮
Lies! Corporate propaganda!
quasi mantle
Too risque and I don't use cyrilic lol
quasi mantle
We are Unreal Engineing here please no CS
What are you talking about
it's ||Unity|| in diversity
fallow finch
https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-carrot-rabbit-whats-up-doc-gif-14258920
Going to home after long daaaay
quasi mantle
Not Unreal in diversity
left granite
Going to home after long daaaay
ahh take some rest mate and wait ...
why r using your phone
fallow finch
What are you talking about
it's ||Unity|| in diversity
Lol it is
fallow finch
ahh take some rest mate and wait ...
why r using your phone
Because the trip takes 1.5 hour to arrive
Im enjoying here
After that unreal is waiting for me
tulip orbit
Because the trip takes 1.5 hour to arrive
trip? drugs are bad mm'kay
pearl elk
time for CPP
left granite
Because the trip takes 1.5 hour to arrive
wait you are not driving
fallow finch
trip? drugs are bad mm'kay
Lol idk if its wrong
fallow finch
wait you are not driving
Sorry i dont have a car
tulip orbit
its wrong if you're not sharing!
fallow finch
:kappa: riding a bus
pearl elk
you cant CPP without a car
fallow finch
its wrong if you're not sharing!
Im not even smoking 😩 thats why i dont share
pearl elk
what you think the C stands for
fallow finch
you cant CPP without a car
CPP= Car Pretty percious
tulip orbit
the C stands for Capitalism
pearl elk
Carpitalism
ivory zenith
CaPeePee
pearl elk
need a BF programming language
left granite
CPP = Curb your P.P.
thats cypp
tulip orbit
the only time my PP is curbed is if I'm sitting down in the street
ivory zenith
need a BF programming language
Thats called Karin
fallow finch
Then Curbyour P.P.
ivory zenith
DNML
fallow finch
But wait
quasi mantle
Curbyour is not a valid word
fallow finch
What does it mean Curb your P.P.
quasi mantle
(or Curbyor for you North Americans)
fallow finch
Curbyour is not a valid word
Cast to Google Translate
fallow finch
Hahaha
cursive crypt
quasi mantle
Also one of the reason I shorten post process to post FX, instead of.. well, you know
fallow finch
Im sorry but i have heard FX means bad things
F your X i think
Someone told me that
pearl elk
FX is the greatest of movies
fallow finch
FX is the greatest of movies
How
quasi mantle
Someone told me that
That someone must had his lover unable to move on.
fallow finch
Its all real they dont use FX
fallow finch
That someone must had his lover unable to move on.
Loool
left granite
the only time my PP is curbed is if I'm sitting down in the street
post process ?
quasi mantle
Loool
Imagine having a girlfriend, unable to make up her mind, and decided to commit netorare with her ex.
That would've been hurt, innit? (I know first hand how it feels)
pearl elk
that started like every single one of my relationships for a sec there
fallow finch
Yeaah
ivory zenith
"commit netorare" im sorry but lol
fallow finch
Listen guys
I decided to apply in game development company because i said i know bp and i worked with ue4 almost 4 years
So they sent me the interview date etc
I went into the interview i answered 0 question
😋 that time i realised i know nothing
quasi mantle
😋 that time i realised i know nothing
I've been there lol
fallow finch
Also they didnt asked me about my experience and what i know
They asked me about OOP and CPP
And i was very nervous lol first job interview in my life
fallow finch
Lol
pearl elk
sno johns
tulip orbit
-7c, not much snow but had freezing rain yesterday
fallow finch
17C where i am
fallow finch
-15 C where I am at
Use ABS node
fallow finch
Use ABS node
Not funny
ivory zenith
lol
tulip orbit
theres an excavator across the parking lot attempting to dig a hole, but the ground is frozen, so he's pretty much whacking at it with his bucket
ivory zenith
Abs on my body
tulip orbit
no ABS on my body
fallow finch
Lol
quasi mantle
No snow in the equator
fallow finch
We have weird Weather this year in here
It was very cold after that wind reached 100km/h after that rain and now its hot
Im kinda confused what to wear maybe jacket up naked bottom 😎 😋
tulip orbit
yeah weather aint behaving this year
foggy echo
..
fallow finch
PhYsIcS Is SiMuLaTeD
last matrix
PhYsIcS Is SiMuLaTeD
yep its working, just tell the player to close their eyes
fallow finch
haha yea
cobalt oracle
How to build UE on a HDD
quasi mantle
How to build UE on a HDD
You can remove most of the Virtual Production, XR, and Enterprise plugins, to cut down the module count.
cobalt oracle
but after the first compilation, when I can open the editor 🤣
cobalt oracle
You can remove most of the Virtual Production, XR, and Enterprise plugins, to cu...
or can I just go into the folders and delete them before I build once? 🤔
quasi mantle
or can I just go into the folders and delete them before I build once? 🤔
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
I managed to cut down the module count in my custom UE4 from 4000 or so down to 2750 something
Removing all the unnecessary virtual production, enterprise, and XR plugins.
I don't have any plan to do XR things at the moment, so it's not a loss.
dim ruin
anyone try out https://www.deepmotion.com/ yet? I'm curious and looking for feedback from people with experience with it + UE4
I can't really animate worth shit so I've got high hopes for it lol
quasi mantle
I personally still animate things by hand, and a lot of tweening
digital quartz
Also they didnt asked me about my experience and what i know
Maybe they have another candidate in mind
Happens
fallow finch
Maybe they have another candidate in mind
Yes but i wasnt aware what they are asking in these type of interviews so i learnt xD
dim ruin
was it posted as a BP-specific job?
quasi mantle
Interview questions had to be unexpected,
dim ruin
because if it was a BP-only, I would be surprised to be getting cpp/oop questions. BP programming is nothing at all like actual programming
cursive crypt
Aww... nice one, ponkkis, why not go to #server-feedback we need a holidays logo
quasi mantle
because if it was a BP-only, I would be surprised to be getting cpp/oop question...
Are you saying that because BP is a visual scripting or a high level scripting?
dim ruin
Are you saying that because BP is a visual scripting or a high level scripting?
I'm saying that because its a visual scripting tool with very little syntax in common with actual real programming.
cobalt oracle
@quasi mantle I deleted the XR and virtual productions plugins and now I am getting this error
pls snd hlp 🥲
cursive crypt
#plugin-dev or #cpp or #ue4-general etc.
quasi mantle
<@!325627930484932608> I deleted the XR and virtual productions plugins and now ...
Remove the OpenXR plugins
quasi mantle
I'm saying that because its a visual scripting tool with very little syntax in c...
So anything that isn't typing is not a real actual manly programming? Okay.
cursive crypt
ponkkis, I have sold you at #server-feedback hope you got it trademarked.
dim ruin
So anything that isn't typing is not a real actual manly programming? Okay.
ok. well someone with 5 years blueprint experience and no actual coding experience. good luck getting a job programming anything anywhere.
quasi mantle
ok. well someone with 5 years blueprint experience and no actual coding experien...
Good gracious, I thought I'm going to lose that Lua programming job, hahaha you got me there
dim ruin
if you can program in lua, you will have transferable experience that can apply to many other languages.
cursive crypt
I can program my washing machine.
dim ruin
lol weird hill to die on but ok
quasi mantle
I feel like this is the code = typing elitism, not worth arguing against.
I'm fucking tired with probing the engine RDG already. 🥱
dim ruin
well, woo me with all the transferable skills you can take from bp to other programming jobs then
cobalt oracle
you can argue that coding is different than blueprinting
but both are programming 👀
cursive crypt
C++ is the best lang in the world, the rest are plebeians 😏
dim ruin
ooh snap. theres a fight
cobalt oracle
bring me the pragma D double meme
quasi mantle
C++ is the best lang in the world, the rest are plebeians 😏
Hail Bjarne whatever his surname is
cursive crypt
Soup
quasi mantle
High level scripting is for pussies, right?
dim ruin
High level scripting is for pussies, right?
ok, I'll bite. yes
cobalt oracle
quasi mantle
Screw it, esolang for real men
quasi mantle
I don't believe in Santa. I'm not Big Boss.
quasi mantle
https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648
The Fury
night grove
I'm not that kind of wizard!
terse iron
wow, this is a good one. thanks
rugged jetty
I'm saying that because its a visual scripting tool with very little syntax in c...
Btw just wanted to say
That just because bp is a visual programming language doesn’t mean it doesn’t teach core programming concepts
tulip orbit
Yeah 👆 I started with BP
but now I'm doing more c++, and its just a matter of learning syntax
dim ruin
You know those drag-and-drop wysiwyg website development softwares?
if you have experience only making websites with that, do you think you are going to get a job doing web development?
that's my point.
BP is a bit closer to programming than that but not by much
fluid bloom
if it isn't programming, what is it?
I mean, you're literally programming stuff
when you drag those lines around
fluid bloom
I concur
dim ruin
very little of it is transferrable to programming without any prior knowledge of actual programming
its literally programming without programming and very context specific
rugged jetty
very little of it is transferrable to programming without any prior knowledge of...
Depends on what u define as actual programming
dim ruin
just want to add that this is a really stupid hill to die on. I think we all know what it is and isn't
fluid bloom
sure buddy 😄
night grove
It could be argued that copying a bunch of code from SO or this discord into your .h and .cpp files isn't real programming either.
fluid bloom
I think we all know writing assembly is real programming
everything else is just posing
just look at roller coaster tycoon, it's a real man's game programmed with assembly
no squiggly lines
night grove
The context and scale is the important part, not so much the means of expression (C++, BP, C#, python, w/e)
Though you are more likely to taken seriously by recruiters if you've worked in the specific language and /or tech their tag bucket has.
dim ruin
So you think BP experience is going to mean anything to any employer outside of a UE4 BP job? lol
night grove
I think any employer worth working for will assess problem solving skill
fluid bloom
did anyone say that?
dim ruin
Yep
fluid bloom
I mean, I haven't read above
dim ruin
That's what this was about.
fluid bloom
I just said it's programming
night grove
I've interviewed and worked with a lot of people with prestigious backgrounds that couldn't problem solve or debug worth s***
Meanwhile, I've also mentored "test engineers" (someone with no formal engineering / c++ training) much further than those "decorated veterans"
I'll concede you aren't as likely to develop your architecture design skills in BP, but that's the "context and scale matters" part
dim ruin
agreed that problem solving and ability to learn will get you more merit than most specific language skills more often than not. All I'm really saying is blueprint skills will count for absolutely nothing outside of UE4 jobs
quasi mantle
The elitism still goes on? Holy shit
dim ruin
elitism?
night grove
agreed that problem solving and ability to learn will get you more merit than mo...
Most likely the company will specifically be looking for candidates with some kind of Computer Science related degree in that case
dim ruin
they actually have "software development" degrees now instead of just comp sci as well
its fairly new though
quasi mantle
"bruh you're not a real programmer if you use visual scripting and typing on keyboard all the time"
Kiss my arse.
BPs can get people's foot on programming. And I assure you, many people did have easier time getting into """real""" programming per your description after getting used to BP.
dim ruin
"bruh you're not a real programmer if you use visual scripting and typing on key...
if you only know how to use BP, no, you aren't a programmer lol
night grove
they actually have "software development" degrees now instead of just comp sci a...
WTF. LOL. Though my comp sci degree is worth less than the paper it's written on. Didn't develop real skills until in the field. Was just remarking "why didn't my degree go into THIS topic of study?" the other day.
dim ruin
ikr. I think its only about 10 years now roughly
quasi mantle
if you **only** know how to use BP, no, you aren't a programmer lol
What? You want me to do a friggin Assembly programming to be a real men next?
night grove
I'd rather work with someone with shipped product working with BP than one of those bootcamp graduates.
quasi mantle
Fine, my DOS x86 Assembly is too green to be worth anything, but sure.
night grove
lol
I also think the "school brand" or "prestigious company on resume" amounts to nothing though
I would want to talk through technical issues rather than use a paper to determine if they are a programmer
dim ruin
well, I'd take "I studied at MIT" over "I studied at Brown" for software
night grove
It's easy enough to be carried through group work
dim ruin
unless they were amazing
night grove
I also worked with a guy that would always say "I worked at X prestigious company" everytime his debugging skills were questioned
As if it was a pass card for terrible technical skill
dim ruin
What? You want me to do a friggin Assembly programming to be a real men next?
no ones saying you can't call your self a programmer if you only know how to work in blueprints, just be prepared to get a lot of puzzled looks outside of UE4 land
quasi mantle
Inb4 "I studied at MIT" but turned out to be a massive charlatan
night grove
TBH, it's an uphill battle for ANY game dev outside game dev
A lot of non-game devs have this elitist attitude the game programming != real programming
Even though it's quite the opposite. Game dev tends to be more cutting edge than the 20+ year old patterns used by other companies.
I'm coming back to game dev after doing non-game dev for a few years. I feel my skills atrophied during that time.
dim ruin
I'd argue that a self taught developer can be just as valuable or more valuable than one with a degree sometimes as well. Like you said, comp sci doesn't center on any specific language, or even programming itself and there's no telling how dedicated they were/are. A self-taught person however has clearly done it because they are passionate (or crazy)
night grove
One of the engineers I admire most (man was absolutely brilliant) does not have any degree at all
He was completely self taught
dim ruin
nice
night grove
Certain companies wouldn't ever even interview him
But would hire some decorated paper pusher with no skill in a heartbeat
sigh
This particular person was self taught and WAY more motivated to perfect his craft than most
dim ruin
things are getting more progressive nowadays though. someone like that would have a much more solid chance with many employers now
they might take a pay hit at the start but thats not a huge deal
last matrix
I worked with an MIT grad who built Riot's network code and founded his own company 😄
dim ruin
that'd be a nice add on the resume lol
night grove
I worked with an MIT grad who built Riot's network code and founded his own comp...
He must have had some fascinating war stories. I heard some things about Riot's initial engine.
last matrix
Lol its not like i did it
Oh he did
And he much rather have the stress of being the cto of his own company
He also built his own engine and maintained the servers
median wraith
someone using substance knows how to make proper colors id mask for ue?
tulip orbit
I think I made color masks in blender to use in substance for assigning materials, but not in UE..... and that was over a year ago
median wraith
the problem is
UE4 needs r g b mask, the exported id mask from these apps export rater a painted color tones, no painted per layers
quasi mantle
UE4 needs r g b mask, the exported id mask from these apps export rater a painte...
Unless you somehow bitmask them 🤔
median wraith
you have some solution?
Im thinking about pass the id texture over my tool to extract the colors and recombine
quasi mantle
I guess try bitmasking the colours and do a bunch of lerps/ifs. But I'm concerned more on the instruction count/shader complexity 🤔 🤔 🤔
median wraith
that sounds like the if functions
idk if my external tool can convert these, will check tomorrow
void lantern
Game awards ! let's go. Not many game i liked this year tbh
quasi mantle
I'm kinda curious with that Matrix tech demo tbh
Also who knows if there's something new with Final Fantasy XVI, but I won't hold my breath on it.
void lantern
yep, looking forward to the matrix demo
shame i only have a PC and no console to check it out
soft night
gameawards the most i wait is Paramount+ on Halo and Sonic Movie2
oh that matrix demo too
quasi mantle
45 minutes remaining by now (the wait at least)
pearl compass
bronze axle
I'll be watching the awards, too.
Lots of viewing options. https://thegameawards.com/watch
Pre-show in 30 minutes, main show in 1 hour.
quasi mantle
Definitely have some time for breakfast.
Also it's nice that the event happens in the morning for my timezone lol
bronze axle
Nice.
Early evening for me (5:00pm).
Gonna watch while I go through our community survey results and work on some Slackers stuff.
I'm interested to see the Matrix Awakens UE5 thing.
quasi mantle
Almost 7 AM by now
I'm still working on implementing Froyo's Post FX thingie
void lantern
7am brand new day !
quasi mantle
I wonder if Square Enix JP had something to show there, eh, I won't hold my breath still
bronze axle
Would be neat to see FF7 Remake Pt 2.
Seems like more of an E3 thing, though.
Of course I'm hoping to see what Kojima's doing next.
Might be too soon.
soft night
its 2am
bronze axle
lol
quasi mantle
Yeah, I personally leaning more on FF16, the project has been radio silence this year
bronze axle
I think Abandoned is worth forgetting about for now.
bronze axle
Yeah, I personally leaning more on FF16, the project has been radio silence this...
That would be cool. I'd like to learn about the gameplay and see how it compares to 15.
quasi mantle
I think Abandoned is worth forgetting about for now.
You could say, Abandoned is worth abandoning
last matrix
yeah but maybe not programming
quasi mantle
Game dev isn't just about programming.
quasi mantle
Do you even make attempt to break your loophole?
Okay, so programming is almost definitely NOT for you. But game development isn't limited to one aspect, there are few parts of game dev that aren't programming.
The latter.
What about creating assets, like maps, models, animations, sound effects, music? Or maybe grand plan or story writing?
last matrix
starting with something simple doesn't seem like it would take to you, though it would help more than you know
thats not what i said at all
last matrix
or start simple....
quasi mantle
You haven't answered my question.
last matrix
try me, i cant tell the difference between a torus and my mug of coco
bronze axle
What is "the great loop"?
last matrix
What is "the great loop"?
what all devs go through
pearl compass
What is "the great loop"?
a self made excuse
last matrix
not completing work
last matrix
a self made excuse
that be true
pearl compass
dont need to. Been doing this a long time.
bronze axle
Sounds like you need to learn how to finish things. That's the hardest obstacle to overcome.
tulip orbit
if you're not learning from a tutorial, you're either not paying enough attention, or its a bad tutorial
pearl compass
Sounds like you need to learn how to finish things. That's the hardest obstacle ...
exactly that. has nothing to do with code or programming or anything else.
last matrix
this has become a pity party
quasi mantle
I think you look at it the wrong way.
Given your denial so far.
tulip orbit
You're not incapable. Thats just in your head, and you need to not tell yourself that. It can be hard to realize, but its important
quasi mantle
Then why stop at gameplay programming?
You know what, save this plan for later days, when you have assembled your own motley crew of game dev team.
bronze axle
"If you hear a voice within you say you cannot paint, then by all means paint and that voice will be silenced"
Van Gogh
quasi mantle
Start learning from small things.
https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874
bronze axle
You know what, save this plan for later days, when you have assembled your own m...
This is good advice. You should make smaller stuff first. It won't be exciting compared to your big idea, but you will learn more rapidly than searching for the perfect tutorial.
last matrix
sounds like you only want to work on things that are fun for you and none of the stuff that you dont like....
tulip orbit
world design is a huge bottleneck for me too. I'm terrible at level making, world building, etc. But i'm bad cause I havent practiced at it
bronze axle
Then there's a problem in your process. You're overthinking something.
Allow someone else to set the constraints for you.
Build a pre-determined design.
So you can focus on building.
quasi mantle
And as I said above, you can't be the jack of all trades.
pearl compass
And as I said above, you can't be the jack of all trades.
ish. I am.
quasi mantle
Well, generalist could help for a solid planning to some extent
But that's kind of a nitpicking in this convo
left granite
hello
quasi mantle
Start learning from basics. That's all I can say.
pearl compass
appearantly you can start anyplace as you think its a great loop.
bronze axle
What is something you like to do in the games you play?
Give me a specific example of an activity.
Shooting monsters, jumping on precarious platforms, flying planes, etc.
Mirror's Edge rocks my world. ❤️
quasi mantle
Don't think about the grand plan of parkour just yet. Start with basic first person template in UE.
Admittedly your proposal is close to Dying Light more than ME
left granite
whats mirrors edge
quasi mantle
whats mirrors edge
Battlefield but parkour I guess
left granite
Battlefield but parkour I guess
what battlefield 😉
last matrix
i wish i was capable of making a game alone that otherwise took a huge team of experts
quasi mantle
Break it.
regal pecan
good wish
you're "capable" but you aren't obligated to
night grove
All of programming is about breaking things into smaller parts. If you feel overwhelmed you haven't broken your problem down small enough.
Thing is, the concept of breaking things down to smaller parts applies to just about all disciplines
quasi mantle
One person won't change if he doesn't want to try.
I hope I'm not rude when I say "you don't try hard enough"
bronze axle
You're probably not breaking it down correctly. I've made that mistake before.
last matrix
sounds like we're stuck in the loop right now
bronze axle
I have a feeling you're getting lost in the details of the process instead of doing the actual work. I have been there, too.
quasi mantle
sounds like we're stuck in the loop right now
Kind of meta if you ask me.
night grove
Take art: Staring at a blank page is terrifying. Fill it in with general form first, then add the details.
last matrix
oh hey game awards are on
quasi mantle
Still pre show right?
night grove
Sounds like you are getting stuck in analysis paralysis and hoping everything will be perfect. Spoiler: it won't
last matrix
Kind of meta if you ask me.
personality traits are not limited to a focus
night grove
Even after you've done this stuff for years, it will always be crappy on first iteration.
bronze axle
Like you break down a process into its components, then you get stuck asking: which component do I build first? Doesn't B need A to exist first? And you spend all your time on that.
Never actually getting anything done.
quasi mantle
The denial is scary tbh
last matrix
i think i did half an hour ago and suggested to not program
bronze axle
You've tried everything, but that doesn't mean you've followed through on those trials.
quasi mantle
Game Awards preshow is about 30 minutes long right?
bronze axle
How? How do you go from following a tutorial to getting stuck?
last matrix
oh i get it, this is like that deep moment where it's all about beating yourself up to find that inner strength within you
bronze axle
Game Awards preshow is about 30 minutes long right?
Yes. Main show starts in ~25 minutes.
night grove
This right here. You aren't breaking down the problem. You are looking for someone else to break down the problem.
bronze axle
Nothing just happens.
left granite
you must have missed something
quasi mantle
Yes. Main show starts in ~25 minutes.
Guess I have 25 minutes to have breakfast then :3
last matrix
coding is not just making, its fixing
quasi mantle
Aha. Problem solving.
bronze axle
I need to take out my mom's trash before the awards. Be back in a bit.
quasi mantle
The Loop
Sounds like a stand from JoJo's
left granite
the game award is live
quasi mantle
the game award is live
Not the main show yet
night grove
This is awesome
left granite
Not the main show yet
yee
night grove
...but also dangerously close to many indie projects. cough not mine cough
quasi mantle
Anyone up for some fried potatoes? I've been prepping one for cook now
left granite
Anyone up for some fried potatoes? I've been prepping one for cook now
i am eating ice cream
does those go well with ice cream
are you beginner
quasi mantle
are you beginner
Seem like it.
regal pecan
#drawtherestoftheowl
left granite
Seem like it.
cough yes
night grove
Oh... um language. my bad
quasi mantle
Yea, it's unused JoJo stand.
left granite
yee beginner
quasi mantle
Reminds me of Meryl saying "I'm no rookie"
night grove
So... Fortnite just barely added sliding physics to the game with the latest season.
left granite
if you are not a beginner you dont need to watch tuts
night grove
Only took them how many years?
astral tangle
So... Fortnite just barely added sliding physics to the game with the latest sea...
Finally
night grove
As in sliding like parkour sliding
left granite
yee i am not reading that essay
astral tangle
@zinc matrix is your goal to make a super complex parkour game with great graphics and extremely cool and complicated mechanics
last matrix
for the record, this was not what you originally post, just fyi, it was maybe the first 3 lines
last matrix
yeah we tried to go over this about an hour ago now
astral tangle
Just start simpler that’s what I did
last matrix
also this 😛
night grove
I’m more hyped about the rock tho
I feel stupid now. What is special about the rocks?
quasi mantle
And you haven't even answered my damn question