lounge

[worthy palm]

hmm, I'm wondering how you'd spawn in items with variable stats

I'm assuming having a min/max base value for certain attributes in the DA, and store the generated value on the item struct.

[graceful sequoia]

so you mightve noticed I actually have a Level per stored item on at least some of these structs

that is inherited from actionrpg, with the goal being that you would reference a stat from a curve or data table put onto the item definition

you could put some stats in there directly but tbh it would get messy unless you had a very well defined set of stats and just accepted that you are storing zeros for items where the stat doesn't make sense

[worthy palm]

🤔

that actually makes some fantastic sense

[graceful sequoia]

it really depends on how you'd want to vary your items

[worthy palm]

haven't yet explored curves, but do see that they're used for GAS attribute modifiers

[graceful sequoia]

yes, my game (as is the actionrpg inherited way and one I'm quite happy with) is using GAS all down the line

but if you want something more like borderlands where two pistols (otherwise identical) can have wildly different stats then you'd have to store that per item

[worthy palm]

yeah I don't want to overcomplicate, but this is definitely giving me some great ideas about how to actually structure the items

[graceful sequoia]

data tables for levelling is core to GAS and it doesn't just have to be stats of the character using an item

[worthy palm]

yeah, i think this is closer to how I want it

[graceful sequoia]

you could have a Stats type that can be on an Inventory stored item and then subtype that for WeaponStats perhaps

[worthy palm]

fuck gas is such a powerful system. it's insane

[worthy palm]

yup that sounds about correct

[graceful sequoia]

I've got to eat, I'll be around in awhile

[worthy palm]

ah it's about bedtime for me.

SO's leaving on a trip, so got to spend some quality time with her before she does

my dude, thank you so much for the insight. I'll be spending this weekend most likely working off the gained knowledge

much appreciated!

[sage ermine]

Just wasted five hours of my life playing star citizen

That game is sadistically bipolar

[subtle hatch]

isn't that a fan game ?

[foggy path]

Star Citizen? A fan game?

[cursive crypt]

I know some memes about it.

[thorny dock]

so yeah I've been baking my scene for 2021.8 years. AMA

[pearl elk]

Star Citizen a game?

I though it was a life simulator, for people who want to lose themselves in another dimension

[sage ermine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/MU1gQlfzyi7qE

^ Star Citizen

[pearl elk]

funny, I get that same feeling from soulslikes

[median wraith]

reposted https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/461878/rtx-3070-ti-gigabyte-general-issues/

post a GPU issue and a guy tells me it's due the CPU

sure thing, then why ran better with the same CPU before

[pearl elk]

did you try reinstalling windows 😛

if you had and AMD Id just tell you to look at the performance metrics in the app

What not even 60fps in all on a 6900XT 😭

broken games more like, might as well be software from the 70s

The Surge 2 has framedrops so bad it gets down to like 10fps

the avg FPS is actually doing it favours in this case

thing is enthusiasts will look at these framedrops and go "oh man it must really be taxing the hardware" then use that shoddy software as a benchmark

[median wraith]

now is doing coil wine

sure it's the CPU

😂

well time to return this crap

tbh happened the same with the 970GTX

[pearl elk]

its the software

[median wraith]

let's pray for the next one to be correctly working

[pearl elk]

you'll get coil wine on any new GPU unless you pay heaps

[median wraith]

the coil wine is because the softare too ?

XD

well no

[pearl elk]

its because the GPU is eating more power than 2 entire laptops duder

[median wraith]

the other time at change the 970GTX for other one it didn't made any sound

[pearl elk]

the 3000 series uses heaps more power than a 970

so larger magnetic field, especially on cheaper components

[median wraith]

it takes the same power of the 780

and didn't made any could wines

[pearl elk]

bullshit

but you do you, return it if you like

Im just saying pretty much any GPU you get will be similar

its not 2010 anymore

[median wraith]

well the 780 and this had the same power requeriments I mean

[pearl elk]

yeah and were you using it on that exact rig? no you wernt

even if you were that rig is so much older now, components wear

its basically like a squeaky fan belt on a car

I thought buying a high end GPU Id be able to run everything and anything at super high FPS

[median wraith]

Explain this

[pearl elk]

turns out software is more important than hardware, so new games run better sure but games from about 5yrs and earlier is no difference

[median wraith]

Tell me why don't return more than 200FPS and the use is at 0%

4%

and why have spikes

go ahead

[pearl elk]

youre not moving the camera

test some gameplay

[median wraith]

yeah I need to move the camera to benchmark the GPU ?

that's new

[pearl elk]

yeah you do actually

[median wraith]

yeah no

[pearl elk]

right now its not doing anything, if you want to stress it move the camera

hence high fps and no usage

[median wraith]

the usage keep at 4%

[pearl elk]

its functioning fine

[median wraith]

whatever I do

in Hunt Showdown goes 80%

[pearl elk]

use another software to check the CPU usage then not MS junk

guaranteed its using the GPU and its fine otherwise you'd get far more crashes and artifacts

its a 3070Ti not a super computer

despite what Nvidia marketing tries to tell you 😛

one person I saw on youtube who got a 3090 white smoke poured out of it and it still worked intermittently lol

[median wraith]

isn't that

I don't care about the cap 200FPS there

but why if reached the max still report fooking 4% use

[pearl elk]

yeah Windows is

Nvidia arnt reporting that

maybe try the software which comes with your GPU genius

then if its still giving you irregular readings you'll have a better data set to make an informed decision

https://puu.sh/HWZBe/4d21f199f6.jpg

seems to work fine for me but who knows, I never trust MS

[median wraith]

no software comes with my gpu

it didn't even came with wires xd

as used todo

I don't have gforce experience installed

[pearl elk]

Gigabyte would be AORUS Engine wouldnt it be

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N307TGAMING-OC-8GD/support#support-dl-utility

[median wraith]

isn't that with the AORUS GPU?

the hell

[pearl elk]

I have no idea dude, you bought the thing not me

[median wraith]

that wasn't in my list the other day

[pearl elk]

Im assuming this manages the hardware profiles for your GPU

should have some graphs in there, Ive not run Gigabyte since AORUS stuff came about

I do actually have one of their NVMes

[pearl elk]

wait a second I just noticed, you have an Intel HD installed as well

[median wraith]

well this don't say much

[pearl elk]

can you disable that GPU?

[median wraith]

the CPU comes with a GPU integrated

I think no

but isn't never on use

[pearl elk]

Ive actually seen issues with laptops which had Intel HD and Nvidia GPUs

[median wraith]

the oher gpus worked fine idk

[pearl elk]

looks like you just gotta give your GPU something to stress it 😛

adjusting the fan speed and thermals would reduce any excessive whine you get

GDDR6X on the 3000 series

[median wraith]

moving around

[pearl elk]

yup Windows isnt reporting right

[median wraith]

well got the wrong GPU selected there but you can see the other use stats

[pearl elk]

oh thats why lol

but yeah Windows is still not reporting right either way

the Gigabyte software is reporting accurate

[median wraith]

so yeah

well yeah windows report is fooked

aside from that

why never is at 100%

but cannot report more FPS ?

[pearl elk]

if the scene doesnt push the GPU to 100% thats just how it is

it might be because there isnt enough shader work going on

[median wraith]

but the FPS cap is set to 300FPS

don't even reach 200

[pearl elk]

yeah 183fps is too slow for that scene 😛

Im not sure how the hardware utilisation is measured, is it a RT scene? maybe thats why Windows is reporting not much usage

[median wraith]

there you go now is almost 100%

Windows still claim it isn't even on 10% use lmao

[pearl elk]

yeah I rekon its glitching, perhaps because of the second adapter

Windows likes to pool resources

[median wraith]

but the window is set to like 1080p

and the effects and all is set to minimum

[pearl elk]

still think your card is broken?

[median wraith]

well isn't broken at all, but the coil whine you say it's gone after a time ?

[pearl elk]

like I said to improve coil whine you can tune the GPU fans and thermals, should help. My GPU when it takes off man the whine is terrible but I barely ever run it at 100% fans

[median wraith]

if the report is wrong on windows then isn't hardare

[pearl elk]

tbh if I ran my PC at 100% fans its louder than a air conditioner

[median wraith]

yeah but I don't care about the fan noise

but the coil crap

[pearl elk]

well the fans are typically what create the magnetic field which leads to coil whine

the faster they spin the larger the field

[median wraith]

I just set the light colors to display temp XDD

[pearl elk]

you might have other things which can cause it too, all I know is its tricky to get rid of entirely. If its quieter than the fans thats usually acceptable, or just use noise cancelling headphones 😛

[median wraith]

lol

[pearl elk]

DDR6X offers increased per-pin bandwidth between 19–21 Gbit/s with PAM4 signaling

yup only 19Gbit/s 😛

they display it in Mhz so you increment in small numbers

[median wraith]

well technically the web says it comes with max

14000 MHz

not sure why the minimum is 17000 and comes with 19000

yeah the Titaniun version comes with DDR6X

but not sure if does much at all given the power of the rest

[pearl elk]

I have Infinity Cache

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-buzz-lightyear-toy-fly-to-infinity-and-beyond-gif-17474152

mine says 2000Mhz roughly, there must be a multiplier on that surely

[median wraith]

what gpu do you have ?

[pearl elk]

6900XT

[median wraith]

is there other place where can check the GPU memory speeds ?

the web says "1825 MHz, which can be boosted up to 2250 MHz"

[mossy nexus]

gpu z

[median wraith]

mine at last says 14000

🤔

[signal citrus]

Nice

Also nice upgrade hev

You went from 1070 to 3070ti?

[median wraith]

Well my 970 had like 5 years so

😂

was dying

wanted one just in case die the clients jobs etc

still will have to change whole motherboard and CPU

[pearl elk]

tbh lots of older games need remasters to really take advantage of newer hardware

Grid 2 runs like ass on there, its an Intel sponsored game but it should really do better for the visual fidelity. Its just older APIs

so if I had a recommendation for any game dev in here it would be to support your games, not just with season pass stuff but with actual upgrades to the core.

[median wraith]

let me install experience

[signal citrus]

I got a rx6900xt too mons

Blows the 2080ti out of the water

Which sku/card did you go with?

[median wraith]

that bad it was ?

[signal citrus]

Ye kinda

Coming from 1080ti to 2080ti there was no change

Practically

But the jump to rx6900xt was massive

[pearl elk]

I wanted the Powercolor Red Devil but I went with what I found available at the time which is XFX 6900XT

[signal citrus]

314 black?

[pearl elk]

basically very similar apart from some styling, yup the black

[signal citrus]

That’s what I got

[median wraith]

oh welp it cost like x3 times or x2 what I paid for this so XD

[signal citrus]

Twinsies

Yeah the 3070ti is great

[pearl elk]

its the biggest GPU Ive ever seen lol

[signal citrus]

Me too

[median wraith]

The only I know it's the RT cores and RT in general right now isn't useful

maybe could wanted more brute force than RT cores

[pearl elk]

you should try something like Watch Doges Legion

[pearl elk]

thats where Nvidia has a clear advantage

[signal citrus]

Right up agains that radiator smh

[median wraith]

tried control

the reflections in the surfaces are like rendering at 2FPS

and when you move the camera if you have 60FPS

looks like its moving in a parallel world

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/HfEwg/512c1ad5e9.jpg

plenty of room 😛

[median wraith]

these are case fans or is watercooling ?

oh yeah is water

[pearl elk]

yeah the rad is on a sunken compartment

[signal citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtjT_NNIaw fortnite is great

[pearl elk]

I got fans on top and bottom now too, lots of LEDs

[signal citrus]

Play at 4K with Max settings except rt

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/Hhugx/185fdac9ce.mp4

this is before I got the riing trios for the bottom, put these bottom fans on top

[signal citrus]

Psu in da rear?

Yeah tbh I should have gone for that kind of case

Shoot air up into the gpu

[pearl elk]

yeah its a fat case so its on the back side with all the cabling

[signal citrus]

Corsair carbide or something?

[pearl elk]

Lian-Li PC-O11DYNAMIC XL

[signal citrus]

Oh wow

[median wraith]

@signal citrus so to be more in deep I got it because I was looking for a GPU since a year ago, and the works with the clients each day worked worst, and turns out I found one on a local store the last month at some small increased price, rather than 1500€ that the 1060 GTX was at 😂
So picked it, the same month got me a bike I was looking for for a year ago too, so win win

[pearl elk]

they are cheap as hell tbh for what they are

[signal citrus]

That’s one of my favorite cases to build in

[signal citrus]

Very nice

[pearl elk]

Corsair do have a new full tower out which looks solid

but Ive wanted a Lian-Li for ages

[signal citrus]

I’m phantek now

I wish I didn’t have a massive shroud at the bottom

So I could hit it with cool air

[foggy path]

that Lian-Li case is "ROG certified"

whatever that means :D

[pearl elk]

its got the wiring for ROG bits

[foggy path]

LEDs?

[pearl elk]

tbh the case is great it supports any mobo pretty much

[foggy path]

Yeah it looks pretty good

[pearl elk]

Der Bauer designed it, I didnt even know who that was when I got it then I looked him up lol

[foggy path]

I bought a Fractal Design Define XL a long time ago and never needed to buy another one since :P

the Define XL is nice because it has factory installed noise dampening foam

[pearl elk]

Fractal Design are pretty amazing for the price too, I had a Node ITX case of theirs

[signal citrus]

It’s tight but yeah that’s a 420aio

[foggy path]

I guess the only thing that's kind of a potential annoyance with older cases are the front panel connections

[pearl elk]

thats a much better liquid cooling setup than mine

mines just el cheapo cuz I wanted to do a custom loop down the line 😛

one thing I was really shocked about is how well I managed to do with all the LED stuff, Im actually happier to not have it all sync up because its more adjustable with things on different channels

I wouldnt have had enough LED channels on my Mobo to power this many fans anyway, Im close to the limit as it is atm lol

9 fans, 3 Riing Quads, 3 Riing Trios, 2 Silverstone LED strips, Lian-Li 2x8 Pin LED, LED GPU Riser, Corsair ARGB Ram, CPU Cooler has LEDs on it and 3 more generic TT fans. Id say maybe 1000 LEDs all up lol

[median wraith]

@pearl elk

clock here is at almos 10000MHZ

well

is 1440p scaled *175%

here is 1440p

still don't get why the GPU don't uses the horse power

this is technically more than 4k scaled

and now the use is almost 100% and same FPS

XD

[pearl elk]

only 61c too

I think its simply because to use the whole GPU you have to hit every part of it and when you do hit 100% youve bottlenecked so they avoid situations where its full usage to leave a tiny bit of overhead to avoid stutter

[median wraith]

mmm

yeah it's strange because don't push more FPS than these

not sure if with a 120hz monitor will be forced

to return more

[pearl elk]

nah I dont think it will, is it gsync?

[median wraith]

nope

vsycn etc is disabled

[pearl elk]

I recently found out a monitor I bought for cheap which I thought was crap 4K@30hz is actually 4K@60hz with Freesync

just needed the right cable 😛

[median wraith]

yeah don't need 4k but 1440p at 140 or something

[pearl elk]

4K its tricky to hit high FPS

I still do alot of gaming at 1080P cuz I can just crank it right up and use some super sampling

and to think they want to push 8K+ already, its just not gonna happen for GPUs in a hurry

[median wraith]

someone in forums says its because the CPU

but not sure how makes sense if display non 100% usage

[pearl elk]

there is some driver overhead associated with Nvidia GPUs but I think it has more to do with scene optimisation

thats Battlefield 5 right?

Id say its more optimised for the 2000 series

[median wraith]

no its 1

let me try hunt showdown

but here my bottleneck at move its the hdd

[pearl elk]

well the situation you want to be in is nothing at 100%

you need some resources free to do any work which comes up

[pearl elk]

lol I cant screenshot the AMD overlay

but mine says 50Ws at 100% usage

[median wraith]

oh welp

mmm yeah the page where purchased the GPU says "Memory Clock 19000 MHz" lmao

maybe its due the Gigabyte Edition but idk

[median wraith]

mine 269 wats

XD

[pearl elk]

This is one of the reasons I went with the AMD though was the lower overall power usage but they are power throttled

theres a certain wattage they are hard limited by

thats on Rage mode too, which is like gaming OC

[median wraith]

where can see the remain wats ?

is up 290 Wats

[pearl elk]

yours would be 350w max Id say

2x8 or 3?

[median wraith]

here says 290

🧐

is 2 complete pins of 8

as the 780GTX used to be

[pearl elk]

yeah then youre running close to the limits of 2 plugs Id say

[median wraith]

the 970 was 1 pin of 8 and other of 6

[pearl elk]

RDNA2 clearly has more headroom but its hard to compare since AMD and Nvidia generations arnt synced up

once AMD get some stronger RT cores it could really bump up the power usage

[median wraith]

🧐

[pearl elk]

but one thing I noticed about Nvidia marketing is that performance per watt figure they loved so much in the 1000 series marketing slowly disappeared, they still use it in enterprise marketing but not so much in the gaming stuff

[median wraith]

well lets say you add 200 there

that's 500w

[pearl elk]

lol 6watts at idle

[left moss]

#hardware no maybe?

[median wraith]

yeah that's why said add 200 there

🤖

the powersupply its 750w

[pearl elk]

but we are talking about software too 😛

[left moss]

lol ok

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/knock-knock-anybody-home-smile-the-shining-let-me-in-gif-16473221

[median wraith]

okay there you go the Nvidia report show more convincing results

[signal citrus]

Yeah I fell into led stuff hard awhile ago

[pearl elk]

Im now working on LEDs for my car lol

[pearl elk]

is that pink Crysis suit?

[median wraith]

yes sir

Maximum Thicc

now I have 40c on idle in the GPU for some reason

[signal citrus]

I made this array and programmed the lighting

It’s very colorful but it overwhelms the phones hdr settings

But yeah 300watts

Those ws2812b leds eat power

[timber viper]

Do you guys get this too when trying to log in answerhub?

[pearl elk]

oh no, they did it again

license is obviously not on auto renew

[pearl elk]

lol yeah I have my brightness turned down on my LEDs, dont need em so bright I can see em lit up during the day

[signal citrus]

It literally is painful to look at yeah

I got a octows2812

And a teensy board

I use a usb connection to pack the frames over ssh

Octows2811 is cool stuff

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqy5w_qRnY

Im gonna be attempting to do something like this

without the EDM

as cool as speaker lights would be

[median wraith]

always doing wizards things

😅

[signal citrus]

Those diffusers are something else. Looks like a fun project

[signal citrus]

Thanks hev

[pearl elk]

theres acouple of water block addins I can get for my case but I wasnt entirely convinced of how good they would look

[signal citrus]

I went light with rgb on my current stuff

But I went overboard on components

But I have some of those triio thermal take fans too

[pearl elk]

https://i.redd.it/288dlpabub351.jpg

this one I didnt like the big plate there, its like all glass front and they block it

[signal citrus]

Oi custom loops I look at and just shake my head

It looks so cool and they are so great and all but wow I dun think I could do it

[pearl elk]

if I could find a water block I actually like

[signal citrus]

That’s the o11 too yeah?

[pearl elk]

yup, thats the XL like mine, there is a slightly smaller one

https://www.ekwb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/O11D-distro-plate-G1-Ek-lian-li-waterway-24.jpg

this plate is perhaps alittle better

but you still end up with stuff right in your front window

[signal citrus]

Yeah

[signal citrus]

Are you using push pull?

[pearl elk]

nah just push for the rad, I have a kinda push pull thing going on with the case flow from the bottom through the top

I was looking at my rad the other day I have room to fit a slightly thicker one in there and I can mount more fans on the back side

[signal citrus]

I did it this way on that case but the leds on the fan were not as cool as yours

They shine through at least lol

[pearl elk]

thermaltake fans are brilliant but I dont have the patience to program a custom theme 😛

[signal citrus]

Ye

So

That’s a 3970x

I went with coolermaster on that

[pearl elk]

I had to put a fan on the back too, CPU was getting too hot without much flow

[signal citrus]

Because they had easily the best tr block

Er I mean the copper is big enough for the entire ihs

[pearl elk]

I was thinking maybe Arctic or Lian-Li blocks

[signal citrus]

I’ve bought 3 arctic freezers

And they are easily

The worst to set up

[pearl elk]

lol well thats good to know

[signal citrus]

They are a complete nightmare to assemble

You will be cussing a lot

It does not help that it comes with no instructions and their YouTube channel has multiple videos for different revisions of the same product

[pearl elk]

I figure the Lian-Li ones should fit perfect being its one of their cases but I want performance too

[signal citrus]

Yeah the freezer does well

Am using a 5950x and that thing never really pushes 80 or beyond and idles very low

With the 420mm rad Arctic

[pearl elk]

ROG Ryujin II could be cool, they have wicked LCDs but probably overkill

[signal citrus]

I used that on another 3970x and it was very insufficient for threadripper

But for a 5950x it probably will do well

The coolermaster was unbeatable tho

[pearl elk]

I should be able to fit a 420mm on the side, its only a 360mm atm

[signal citrus]

I would hit it with cinebench after cinebench and that thing would not heat up

Yknow cases say they can fit a 420mm rad but then they won’t have clearance for one

It’s super frustrating

[pearl elk]

Zen 3 its the multicore boost which keeps it cool, when you hit one core it clocks higher

[signal citrus]

Msi does that

Nice

[pearl elk]

I had to put a fan on the back because the radiant heat around the pump was causing my thermals to be higher than they should, just needed abit of flow. The GPU was blocking the air going up through the case

[signal citrus]

Aye

So it is push pull then?

[pearl elk]

everything kinda flows to the top front

[signal citrus]

My configuration that I couldn’t overload was sucking into the case and having strong exhaust out the top

[pearl elk]

3 on bottom and 1 on the back are intake, rest are all exhaust

I wondered if maybe a car intercooler could make it cooler lol

[signal citrus]

1 on the back?

[pearl elk]

wtf is a Alpenfohn Gletscherwasser

[signal citrus]

Idk

[pearl elk]

yup I put one high flow on the back to move air past the cpu and ram

[signal citrus]

I think that case performs better when the rad is pulling in

Fresh air over the rad and out the top

I had the rear fan exhausting too

But those fans look so nice

I can understand not wanting them the other way

[pearl elk]

thats why I got the trios for the bottom cuz they got the ring on both sides

[signal citrus]

Aye

[pearl elk]

they are actually quite good fans I think the radiator is letting my rig down atm

or more so the pump, it doesnt really pump that fast

[signal citrus]

I went with two ugly industrial power 140s to shoot up

[pearl elk]

even idle I have it pretty much going 100%

[signal citrus]

I’d be very interested to hear if it runs any better with your fans flipped

On the rad

It’s kinda a lot of air bending going on for that thing

[pearl elk]

it does get hot but mostly when Im playing new games

[signal citrus]

That pcie power cable is so cool lol

[pearl elk]

I put it that way so it doesnt tug on the heavy card too much, helps hold it up abit

[signal citrus]

Aye

[pearl elk]

it was a pain to get pointing the right way, I redid the thing twice

[signal citrus]

Was tempted to try vertical mount

But I shipped that computer

[pearl elk]

for this card it wouldnt be such a bad idea but I really didnt want to go to PCIE3x

[signal citrus]

And yeah the fans blowing into it

[median wraith]

Got a question: Isn't inside a material each UV channel adds 1 drawcall ?

[signal citrus]

Yeah

Well

No

Uv channel? No

[pearl elk]

depends doesnt it, dont newer APIs use arrays for that stuff

[signal citrus]

Material ids will add a draw call though yeah

You can have up to 8x2 uv

[signal citrus]

Honestly hard to stay up on overhead with dx12

[median wraith]

UV like UV[0] and UV[1]

inside same material

it duplicates vertex at least

[signal citrus]

Doesn’t affect draw calls

[median wraith]

what it affect ?

[signal citrus]

Memory read

Upload time

[median wraith]

well the vertex draw for sure isn't it ?

like a double pass ?

[signal citrus]

Memory read can be a bottleneck for draw yeah, no it shouldn’t add another pass

[median wraith]

got lied by forum entities

😂

well this is interesting

now could be interesting to try to have a single texture for trees

see how it affects performance, given then bark will be masked

is there some way to lerp between UV data ?

or just at plug in custom uv ?

[shell garden]

yes, customise the ultraviolet

[pearl elk]

Ultra VAT

[cursive crypt]

Lerp between UV data...

[pearl elk]

uverp

[median wraith]

how ?

[signal citrus]

What are you doing with the uvs?

[pearl elk]

uderps

[median wraith]

well technically if I do in the same UV something can check if is over 1.0 to get the second one BUT
if I got UV(1) lets say the UV for the foliage and UV(0) for the bark how you know in albedo to get one or other at painter ?

[subtle hatch]

What's the best way on recruiting voice actors ?

[median wraith]

there are websites where you pay per minute or x num of words

each actor have ashowcase etc

[subtle hatch]

I am avoiding generic voiceovers

[foggy path]

I know there's voice actors on twitter who sometimes do voiceovers and stuff on memes and such, they pretty often do voice acting in general too

[pearl elk]

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2021/07/Der8auer-RTX-2070-SUPER-fire-1_videocardz.jpg

my rig is just abit dusty, nothing a clean wont fix

[torpid star]

did you buy this at the bottom of the nyc east river

[sweet badge]

how do i work with other people on an unreal project

[pearl elk]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-survives-a-house-fire

[torpid star]

wow thats amazing

[tulip orbit]

Any car knowledgeable ppl here? Going to be putting a new tire on an old steel rim, for an old non-road worthy trailer. Is rusty, should I sand/paint the inside of the rim? specifically, where the rubber will sit, and be in the inside of the tire

lulz. 2 seconds after asking I finally find a forum post that says I should 😄

[median wraith]

looking good XD

[pearl elk]

See you got nothing to worry bout 😛

[median wraith]

Time to time I try random online games

the games with more users and better know ones are the only ones I always get insulted via DM

Luos, ban this guy

😂

[pearl elk]

but but... my lightmaps 😭

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-4425173

[cursive crypt]

This look like a dust too

[white storm]

how to get easy anti cheat?

ive heard its free now

for ue4

[median wraith]

I think it's for their store

not for UE4

[carmine frigate]

should i make a post in unpaid jobs to looks for some1 to make me coffee and work in my garden? 😛

take out the trash stuff like that

[mossy nexus]

It's part of Epic Online Services.

[white storm]

What if i use Steam?

and not eos

[mossy nexus]

Then VAC would be the option I guess

Read up on EOS, it's not just for Epic stuff. 😉

[worthy palm]

GASshooter interface has 'RegisterInteracter' and 'UnRegisterInteracter'
i'm adding a pickup interface
uhh.. 'RegisterPickerUpper'? 🤣

[median wraith]

that's paid

[carmine frigate]

yea sure they can keep the trash

[mossy nexus]

virtual textures eh? Does that use up virtual ram or something else? 😄

[quasi mantle]

Found this on #volunteer-projects
Is this supposed to be satirical listing of that one unpaid gigs listing?

[deep glen]

you should be banned for that. and knowing hev, he joked

those uv's

boatymcboatface can stand up for himself

well.. as long as they work

[graceful sequoia]

welp I got sunburned but it was a fun party

[worthy palm]

I believe I saw one (maybe by the same poster?) that required 8hrs/day week and it was #volunteer-projects

oh it is the same post. they just spam it every few days form accounts

[quasi mantle]

Almost the same post, but only differences are in few sentences.

If the "original" was Turkish, this one was Indian.

[worthy palm]

you'er right. smells like a scam

[graceful sequoia]

benefit of the doubt--- maybe copy paste + change some details of someone else's post because you don't have good English or something?

[worthy palm]

🤔 yeah you're prob right

[graceful sequoia]

trying to think how changing details like that would be a scam

unless it was just to get free work and not pay royalty

[worthy palm]

but I don't think a 'studio' would do something so obvious

[worthy palm]

yes this is what i was referring to

[graceful sequoia]

surely using the term "studio" loosely

[worthy palm]

hmm.. better wording
'I wouldn't think that anyone/any group wanting to create a serious project would do something so blatant as plagiarize posts for 'job' offers'

[graceful sequoia]

or label their game as terrible

[quasi mantle]

It's going to be either a satire listing, begging for free work, or actually a scam.

[graceful sequoia]

cause that's what I want, not get paid up front and get royalties on what the authors call a terrible game

[worthy palm]

yeah. seems kinda hard thing to pull off with internet strangers. lol

[worthy palm]

Inventory is underway!

[graceful sequoia]

your inventory? awesome!

[worthy palm]

yeah slow going, but it's going

[graceful sequoia]

yeah

[worthy palm]

taking a lot of inspiration from your breakdown

thank you for that again

[graceful sequoia]

thanks! glad it's helpful

a fair bit of credit to epic for the actionrpg template, but Ive made a bunch of changes cause that game basically only had an inventory for the player and nothing else-- and was solely for like, this one health potion, weapons and really nothing else

still it's a great resource for things like GAS

[worthy palm]

yeah. I plan on reusing inventories for any actor/pawn

[graceful sequoia]

yeah all my characters have the same inventory implementation, which is nice because things like theft, what weapon they choose to use, etc is all uniform

actually fun fact, you can currently steal from animals inventory--- it doesn't make sense I just haven't felt the need to fix that yet

kind of fun :-P

it's a one line change actually because there's a Can Steal flag already that's not set on the animal subclass

[quasi mantle]

I'm still kinda conflicted if inventories should be split per character, because JRPGs have shared inventory system and usually go up to a hundred or so slot no matter what

[graceful sequoia]

like characters in your party? yeah I've got unified right now

it actually just has a flag in the "what is my inventory name" function to say if the character is in the party, they use the "Player" inventory

[worthy palm]

If I want to steal some birds feathers you can't stop me ;P

[graceful sequoia]

hehe

[worthy palm]

alright time for some late lunch 🍔

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, because I'm kinda want to make the money split between three main characters, and two of them eventually dating and going to share money.
Though maybe I should make their wallets unified from the get go?

[graceful sequoia]

I want inventory management to be trivial for the player, so instead I add max capacities of the players (by their level/stats) together to determine max carry--- but obviously I have to figure out what happens when a party member leaves....

[graceful sequoia]

oh interesting

could have money separate and items combined maybe

[shell garden]

replace all stats with a single number

[graceful sequoia]

I had this idea that when you enter towns, the radius that your party follows you at would get bigger

[shell garden]

and then replace all numbers with a single digit

[graceful sequoia]

and when you idle in an area, the AI party members would find nearby patrol points

[shell garden]

and then replace all digits with 0

[graceful sequoia]

then you could use this for, for instance, having your party members go handle selling junk for you

but i think it will get a bit complicated with dialog systems

[quasi mantle]

In my case, party members will stick through dungeons, but eventually leave if you're doing nothing in free roam.

[graceful sequoia]

exactly, i figured i would reuse my "area system" that determines things like how close the camera is (its third person) and what area music plays

to be able to modify the behavior of the AI party members

[quasi mantle]

Though I'm wondering how I should handle peds, because having it in GTA style won't make much sense.

[graceful sequoia]

peds?

pedestrians?

[quasi mantle]

Yes, pedestrians.

As for now, the player can fire weapons outside combat. Not sure if I'm going to nerf that and only allow weapon use inside combat or spotted nearby enemy.

[graceful sequoia]

at the moment ive got it in "absolute freedom" mode where you can hurt any character in game, and it persists all characters' lives in the game save -- with one exception that certain characters get marked critical and cause game over when they die

naturally quests dependent on such NPCs get failed if you take them out

but yeah it really depends on what kind of game you want and whether you want to do the branching work to have it make sense

some main character party members are critical, but the intent is not all of them (ie you arent critical just because you're in the party)

[worthy palm]

nightmare mode: critical npcs can die resulting in the user having to start over

[graceful sequoia]

or if you die 🙂

although since im doing arbitrary possession [within the party] "you" is not as clear as it normally is

[worthy palm]

You*ish

[graceful sequoia]

but yeah "Is Critical" takes care of that 😄

double nightmare mode: any innocent character that dies is a game over and reset

regardless of Is Critical

[worthy palm]

tripple nightmare mode: anyone dies, game gets uninstalled from PC and your license key is revoked

[graceful sequoia]

and gets replaced with that "Terrible Battle Royale" game from the listing

[worthy palm]

🤝

[graceful sequoia]

sets it to open by default at OS startup

[worthy palm]

this is truly some dark dev talk. lol

[graceful sequoia]

too cruel and unusual

[worthy palm]

hey @graceful sequoia have you by any chance messed with the GAS TargetData class?

[graceful sequoia]

no i dont think so, assuming this: https://github.com/tranek/GASDocumentation#4111-target-data

[worthy palm]

yeah, I'ev tried to do this unsuccesfully in the past

I'm going to have to try again. but basically, I want a equip ability, and want to pass the item to the ability

since the actor is destroyed, I just want to pass he DA and the regular GameplayEvent struct doesn't have generic non-actor inputs

[graceful sequoia]

but the TargetData is ancillary to TargetType no?

[worthy palm]

great question, and i have no idea what that means

[graceful sequoia]

ah, thats because TargetTypes are specific to the template, and not core to GAS

so im not sure Target Data would be the right way, targets in GAS are the thing that gets the gameplay effect, how could you pass the item that started the ability into the ability using that

[zinc matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/685086027353817101/866115899169177620/Untitled.mov dance night sunday

[worthy palm]

WaitForGameplayEvent

[graceful sequoia]

yeah, am familiarizing myself at https://github.com/tranek/GASDocumentation#4611-passing-data-to-abilities

arent you doing multiplayer single AI?

[worthy palm]

it actually works quite nicely. for passing things like actor information out of the bos

[graceful sequoia]

The downside to this is that events are not replicated by the AbilityTask and should only be used for Local Only and Server Only GameplayAbilities. You potentially could write your own AbilityTask that will replicate the event payload.

[worthy palm]

yup

🤔

[graceful sequoia]

maybe it didnt used to be replicated?

[worthy palm]

you know.. that would explain why I had to hack something together on the flashlight before to get it to work

🤦‍♀️ guess I didn't get that far

[graceful sequoia]

well you could just do the first option and assign Triggers

since you are already generating the gameplay event

[worthy palm]

darn. not sure I necesarily want to go that way either since I'd like to take care of the weapon logic in the ability (fire rate, etc), and don't really want passive abilities for that

:sigh: maybe I should instead be doing soemthing like
PlayerCharacter > GetEquippedItem

[graceful sequoia]

well you could use the Actor option

spawn an actor that is the Owner of the ability, and have the character be the instigator?

[worthy palm]

but then the actor would need it's own ASC and attributes right?

also... theres a github darkmode?!

[graceful sequoia]

mmm yeah

[graceful sequoia]

mmm yeah

[worthy palm]

TIL.. ❤️

[graceful sequoia]

why cant this be done without Wait Gameplay Event ?

[graceful sequoia]

btw where do i get the schnazzy BP tweaks i see around here

my BPs are vanilla and boring

[worthy palm]

UE 4 theme https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/darker-nodes

and UE 4 snazzy wires https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/electronic-nodes

I really like the theme when set to "dark" not the default "darker" mode

though I will say. it'll be obsolete (for me at least) as soon i switch to ue5

[graceful sequoia]

im more interested in snazzy wires themselves, has ue5 improved that?

[worthy palm]

nope. wires still floppy

[graceful sequoia]

floppy wires = bad

[worthy palm]

^

[graceful sequoia]

but what i really want is teleport nodes

[worthy palm]

what I really want is another way to bind to event dispatchers that isn't so damn ugly

[graceful sequoia]

teleport nodes could eliminate the need for the Create Event dispatcher thing if that's what you mean

oh nvm

you mean subscribe to the dispatchers yeah

[worthy palm]

yup

that's ugly af

i normally do it with a sequence node and try to split them up as nicely as possible. but still ugly

[graceful sequoia]

but if you had teleport you could skip Create Event when binding to the dispatcher

[worthy palm]

so i just wrap them up in a macro, and hide them

@graceful sequoia well, looks like you just found a new project for when you complete your game 🙂

Telenodes
Nodes that teleport

[graceful sequoia]

it's so much easier if someone else does it and I throw them some bucks

[worthy palm]

true that...

[graceful sequoia]

was hoping someone had-- when implementing functions "island" style input references are great and it's bizarre that there's no way to achieve that style in async

[worthy palm]

I'm having a tough time trying to answer this question. I've not yet done this before, so i should at least give it a shot

[graceful sequoia]

just seems like if you've got a target data already, it's the same

but hey--- might be worth asking in #gameplay-ability-system whether wait for event still has that limitation just to be sure

seems arbitrary

[worthy palm]

mklabs did recommend it before. I should really give it a shot
Though that does mean that all my item abilities would need to be passive

[graceful sequoia]

why?

[worthy palm]

that's how it'd work. right? the ability is always active, and it's just sitting waiting for the event to trigger

[graceful sequoia]

ohhhh

well yes and no

you could activate the item and then send the event on demand no?

I'd think wait for event would be the same?

the ability has to be active to wait for an event? or no

[worthy palm]

yeah the ability would wait for event. I'm thinking the items hold the ability class ref, and when equiped, the player is granted it's abilities, and then insteald of "Activating ability", a message is just sent to the ability instead

then conversely remove the ability when unequipped

[graceful sequoia]

right

[worthy palm]

🤔 yeah let me give that a shot. and see if it actually replicates

well well well

didn't realize these two were UObject references

so I can pass a DataAsset/PrimaryDataAsset

[subtle hatch]

I wonder if there is any good artstation alternatives ?

[graceful sequoia]

nice

[worthy palm]

deviant art?

[worthy palm]

Oh yeah. quick q. how did you open the bulk editor window for data assets? couldn't find anything on it. weak google-fu

[graceful sequoia]

select stuff that has common properties in content browser,right click, asset actions-> edit in bulk property matrix

then in the sidebar, hit the pin on the properties you want in the grid

you can multiselect stuff, and then edit it in the sidebar

to change across many assets

[worthy palm]

oh sweet. awesome. thank you!

[graceful sequoia]

yeah it's great for so many uses-- I learned about it in the level optimization | inside unreal where they used it to mass assign LODGroup

[worthy palm]

got to say, I'm excited for nanite. the few times i did model something, LODs sucked

clean retop is so exhausting.

[graceful sequoia]

yes nanite will be great but worth it to note that the built-in auto LOD is pretty good

[worthy palm]

there's a system that auto gens LOD models?

[graceful sequoia]

probably ideal to just model LOD 0, then use auto LOD and fix problems with manual LOD in DCC

[graceful sequoia]

yes, it's LOD Groups and associated settings

technically you don't need a group

[subtle hatch]

because I don't like epic game purchased artstation

the service went downhill

[graceful sequoia]

just edit Number of LODs for how many you want to generate

[worthy palm]

ah interesting.

[graceful sequoia]

yeah it's pretty conservative by default, but often that's enough

[worthy palm]

good to know

may attempt to use it before switching to UE5

not planning to switch till it's out of beta at this point

[graceful sequoia]

I am looking forward to having the engine do it for us

[worthy palm]

well.. I'll try it out, but not planning to develop UE5 till then at least

[graceful sequoia]

that's how I thought it should've always worked but yeah no

[worthy palm]

yeah. there's just so many tedious parts to game dev

[graceful sequoia]

I saw nanite as the obvious next step to auto LODs

[worthy palm]

glad there's solutions to some of those

and lumen ❤️

[graceful sequoia]

yeah for sure especially now that I can understand the tradeoffs for software mode and RT

(because I have something that can do DxRT)

[subtle hatch]

You aren't gonna have to worry about LODs in UE5 ?

[graceful sequoia]

the idea of nanite is that everything is auto LOD all the time essentially, but nanite currently does not work for every case

[worthy palm]

hopefully not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5KtatMcUw

they have a scene with 1 billion polys, and not a single LOD

[graceful sequoia]

removes a lot of LOD care that's needed, and shifts that into HLOD if you need more than you get out of the box

which is a lot

[worthy palm]

it reminds me of the guys..

one sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUuUvDSXk4

Euclideon Holographics

[graceful sequoia]

oh i remember this

looks like they used it for some specific "holographic" VR stuff or something? i wonder if they ever licensed anything

but this is probably a similar idea

its hard to tell what part of this ancient video is encoding compression and what is virtual geometry popin

[worthy palm]

last i remember they were doing vr scans of homes for some reason

everyone doubted them, and said that it was all pre-rendered, and a scam. They kept promising that it wasn't a scam, and that they'd soon release a game demo or something like that.

well.. here we are a decade later...

and they still haven't done anything

[graceful sequoia]

theres an HD version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4

it does look like there's visible transitions yeah

i guess thats why DirectStorage was as helpful as it was in enabling nanite, because you can precompute everything ahead, stick it on disk and load it on demand at runtime without the huge RAM cost

to avoid the visible "transition" effect would require a lot of transformations (basically "LODs") of the geometry to be stored ahead so it wasnt noticeable

im just guessing how this works from what ive learned so far

[worthy palm]

well, so far your guess is 10x better than mine 🙂

[graceful sequoia]

when UE5 intro dropped and i realized what it was promising i was floored. I had literally just really come to terms with the ideal ways to optimize levels in the UE4 regime, and all the associated costs and work involved

[worthy palm]

hmm.. guess I can't spawn and destroy items as easily as I thought in GAS

[graceful sequoia]

spawn an item's actor? or do you mean the DataAsset [which doesnt "spawn" actually]?

ah maybe something like "spawn the model bp so you can see it being tossed"?

[worthy palm]

yeah, I was honestly surprised by the actual release of UE5's EA. it absolutely blew me away with what people were doing, and showd me that the engine was living up to the expectations of their revealvideo

[worthy palm]

at the moment, I'm just trying to destroy it., but will eventually be all 3

[graceful sequoia]

the dataasset just exists

[worthy palm]

Server sees it. but client does not

[graceful sequoia]

its either loaded or not

[worthy palm]

oh yeah, I have a BP reference to the 'prefab' class on the data asset

[graceful sequoia]

right yeah, and then you would spawn that "prefab" class when its used

would probably depend on the kind of item so probably some ability subclassing there

but in general if we just think of "throwing an item"

[worthy palm]

yup. but client doesn't see it. only the server

[graceful sequoia]

multiplayer = this.cryptonite

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worthy palm]

wonder if I'd have to do invoke some RPCs on the client or something

[graceful sequoia]

i dunno but normally i wouldnt find it weird to think the ability could spawn an actor and destroy it as necessary

on the other hand, you could have the item actor make that decision of when to properly activate the ability's effects

and have that also trigger destruction of the actor

usually done with gameplay events (as usual)

[worthy palm]

yeah. I may not entirely be thinking about this too clearly. I don't know if I should have even turned my item equipping logic into an ability

[graceful sequoia]

i dont know if that buys you anything for replicated

i just dont have to deal with that in my project

[worthy palm]

https://tenor.com/view/not-jealous-at-all-tantrum-kid-gif-11588213

[graceful sequoia]

glad im learning everything about single player first haha

but i am super curious about it---- and in my game it would actually make sense

[worthy palm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-look-stare-suspicious-gif-5436033

[graceful sequoia]

multiple party members, etc...

scope creep has entered the chat

[worthy palm]

scope creep has entered me

[graceful sequoia]

so story writers have a concept of "outline writing" and "discovery writing"

my project embodies my exploration of UE via discovery, nothing is super concrete here, i thankfully have that luxury

(if anyone interested in writing didnt take creative writing, and those who did too, see brandon sanderson's excellent lectures at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cf-qdZ7GbA&list=PLSH_xM-KC3Zv-79sVZTTj-YA6IAqh8qeQ&index=1 )

[worthy palm]

hmm.. I may check it out

I'm trying to keep systems modular so I can easily sub them out, and not break the game when I do. so thta's something at least

[ember sky]

can someone help me with these?

[graceful sequoia]

whats wrong it looks fine

they are beautiful in their own way

[worthy palm]

🐢

https://tenor.com/view/masterofdisguise-turtle-club-costume-gif-4661211

[ember sky]

the head

[graceful sequoia]

don't judge

do you maybe have any kind of detail for your question or are we supposed to infer what you are doing?

cause I could but it'll probably be wrong

I infer it's that you are setting the headbone manually. Probably to set the look position. But you should use an aimoffset or at the very least only set rotation of the bone, not position

[quasi mantle]

Keep it that way lmao

Also, crossposting not allowed.

[graceful sequoia]

they crossposted that?

no wonder they are getting no help

just post some context already 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Even after I redirect them to #metahumans, they went asking to ask instead smh

[graceful sequoia]

typical. We want to help you! But you are not the center of our lives!

give us some detail so we can get you on track :-D

[subtle hatch]

Can you make stylized human character in metahumans ?

[quasi mantle]

#metahumans

[subtle hatch]

okay brother

[quasi mantle]

This reminds me a lot of SNES JRPG world maps lmao

[graceful sequoia]

unreal seriously needs high resolution screenshotting for blueprints

if I wanted to be blind I'd just experience real life

[stoic turtle]

Are ancient / historic heros / warriors / characters copyrighted?

If i make a game about famous one with general known story with some script modifications could it have copyright strike?

[graceful sequoia]

making a game featuring a historical or mythical figure is not violating copyright, but using a particular design, model, or other copyrightable art for that character that you don't have rights to is

[stoic turtle]

Yeah the design would be unique to the game but

Are you sure about the historic figure not being copyrighted

Zeus for example

[graceful sequoia]

yes zeus is a mythical figure, that isn't copyrighted, but if you were to add the Hades character from the Hercules animated movies to your game, that's copyright violation

But if you had your own version of Hades the mythical character in your game that bears no resemblance to Hades in those movies then the movies' copyrights don't apply

you can't go look at myths of human past that existed before copyright and then claim it's copyright for yourself, nor can anyone else

if you are unsure if your depiction of Hades is infringing on another copyrighted depiction of Hades then you should get legal advice

as another example, if your zeus is an extremely close copy of this Zeus from Disney, you are in trouble

but other depictions of Zeus that you come up with are not automatically copyrighted by Disney just because they have a zeus

[stoic turtle]

Alright got it

[quasi mantle]

Isn't there a free plugin in Marketplace that do just that?

[quasi mantle]

Final Fantasy still going on even if they're copying many bits of D&D, which itself was derived from many mythologies.

For one thing, Bahamut being a dragon is completely made up by D&D.

[stoic turtle]

What about books authors or libraries do some own the storyline of some characters

[quasi mantle]

Depends on how close you're trying to copy, and the book licence.

[stoic turtle]

Wondering if books licenses The very general story that everyone knowns of mythical / historic character

[quasi mantle]

General concepts and mythologies/folklores usually fall under public domain. It's really the matter of the originality and/or execution of the story.

[stoic turtle]

Great , thank you

[mossy nexus]

What's with lounge becoming a serious chat channel? Time to get that stopped right now. RIGHT NOW. 😄

[shell garden]

[cursive crypt]

I unno. People talk about work mostly these days. Maybe we just old loungers and is time to move on sad noises

[tepid ridge]

My first project in UE5

https://screenshot.best/image.php?ref=KO9SHK.png

Gimme feedback

Wait?

Why did show the rickroll?

Damn

Sry you got me

[shell garden]

because it hates you

[tepid ridge]

Discord should remove that

It’s getting harder to rickrll

[foggy path]

It has a little X next to it that you can click to get rid of the preview

You just have to be quick lol

[tepid ridge]

Where/?

[mossy nexus]

Bitdefender really does not like that link, 3 separate "Are you sure, dodgy URLs and shit going on in there" 😄

[foggy path]

At least on pc if you hover over the embed it shows a small X near the right top corner

on mobile I guess it might work a bit differently

[tepid ridge]

https://screenshot.best/image.php?ref=KO9SHK.png

Damn that didn’t do

[quasi mantle]

lmao n00b

[shell garden]

[median wraith]

URL blocked by the anti virus

😂

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, should've deleted it.

[median wraith]

what it was ?

[quasi mantle]

My VM Andrea didn't like it either

Basically rickroll

But with dubious link to mask off the obvious XcQ ending

[median wraith]

VM ?

[quasi mantle]

Sorry, wrong VM
I was meant to say Archie

[median wraith]

your Virtual Machine Andrea ?

xd

Archie Andrea ?

whats that

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, I named my VM that way.

Archie = Arch Linux
Andrea = Android x86
Booty = Ubuntu
Hannah Montana = Hannah Montana Linux
Wendy = Windows

[median wraith]

lol

[foggy path]

Hannah Montana = Hannah Montana Linux

the what linux

[quasi mantle]

Also YT recommend me this gem lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXO1mpgc-is

[quasi mantle]

It's an actual thing
http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/

[foggy path]

lol

[shell garden]

you didn't know about it?

it's one of those lazy reskins of kdebutu or something

[quasi mantle]

It's a shitty but so bad it's good reskin of Kubuntu 9

[median wraith]

Man these glasses are worst than mine

and nobody here likes it

so I don't get anything anymore

I should pass to game designer or CEO directly

😂

well technically I'm CEO of myself 🤔

it's the first time I watch this one

youtube usually showcase more the one where Tim climbs a tree

[foggy path]

Sandy Petersen really has no filter in what he says... watched one of his recent videos on Quake and he basically spent the first 6 minutes talking about how John Carmack is weird, and then towards the end talking shit about "X" who is apparently Tim Willits... :D

[quasi mantle]

We would've get the source code for id Tech 5 already if Tim Willits isn't reigning id Software.

[quasi mantle]

[median wraith]

Cliff ain't that far aswell

[foggy path]

CliffyB? At least he's grown up lol

[quasi mantle]

CliffyB basically toning himself down these days, no longer looked as edgy as his youngin days

NGL kinda missed the noughties attitude, but not missed it at the same time.

[pearl elk]

Is that the wish version of John Carmack :p

[quasi mantle]

I wish

[foggy path]

more like the wish version of John Romero

lol

I mean they were both pretty edgy and full of themselves in their younger days :D

which I guess is sorta understandable given the circumstances

[quasi mantle]

Tim Sweeney is more fitting for John Carmack parallel.

[foggy path]

Probably yeah

It's a real shame LawBreakers and then Radical Heights both went the way of the dodo

[pearl elk]

slaps a concept book on the table I wanna make another billion dollar franchise

[foggy path]

I kinda like LB but it was I guess a bit bad timing and genericness on their part

Radical Heights was probably stillborn due to the financial state of Bosskey, but it was still a fun spin on the battle royale genre

[pearl elk]

Cliff looks like a cheap Carmack with glasses tho lol

[median wraith]

I followed John before ever know who was Tim

tbh looks kinda normal person there

and maybe the only one with family and kids, so maybe is more normal than the ones that talk shit

[pearl elk]

I knew Johns codes before I knew Tims

[tepid ridge]

https://rr.noordstar.me/amd-drops-prices-and-new-stock-9a21a3ce

AMD dropped their prices!

[quasi mantle]

Rickroll.

[tepid ridge]

No dude

Real link

Check it out

[median wraith]

both with the same base error, non accessible for the common public due hardware needs

[foggy path]

really?

I didn't think LB, and even less RH, were very hw intensive

[quasi mantle]

Also isn't posting dubious links are against the rules?

[tepid ridge]

It’s not

Real news

Check it out

[carmine frigate]

that hyperscape game needs 2FA, thats also a way to kill ur playerbase

[quasi mantle]

Nah.

[median wraith]

well the performance was kinda off and if you add the fact both was fast shooters you get the worst combo

[foggy path]

I guess rummy found the remove embed button

[tepid ridge]

It’s actual news

[pearl elk]

$39.99 none of this $60 MP only garbage

[tepid ridge]

Seriously just my test?

[median wraith]

with a 780 and a 970 by that time both ran like the arse to me and friends @foggy path

[pearl elk]

UT3 runs really well these days

[foggy path]

weird

I can't remember what HW I had at the time and they ran fine 🤔 I doubt I had anything super fancy

[median wraith]

people getting 80FPS with a 1080GTX

there are videos on youtube

i mean 80FPS for agame thatsas fast as quake only with the best gpu in market is a joke

[pearl elk]

Lol Quake

[median wraith]

last quake did better but still

[pearl elk]

When that came out you were lucky to get 20fps

[quasi mantle]

I actually don't like Quake as much as I liked Doom.

[pearl elk]

It ran on DOS

[quasi mantle]

It felt overrated to me IMO

Sure, 3D FPS all that jazz, but gameplay wise felt underwhelming.

[pearl elk]

Quake had better moddability, Doom was tricky to work with back in the day

I could never get a Doom mapping tool that was stable so I moved to Quake

[median wraith]

well yeah

doom 3 one 😂

that's basically as id tech 3 one

[pearl elk]

That ran like ass too 😜

[median wraith]

yeah compared to quake ones is kinda worst

[pearl elk]

There are some great older games that deserve a revisit but we tend to focus on the mainstream

If its not Doom, Quake, Unreal etc no one cares

[fathom wadi]

minesweeper needs a reboot

[quasi mantle]

Minesweeper but it's in Unreal Engine 5 and hyper realistic

[fathom wadi]

and you literally sweep away the mines with a broomstick

[median wraith]

there are channels doing that alread, never ends good xd

[pearl elk]

Skunny Kart ftw

[cursive crypt]

Digger: Reloaded for me

[fathom wadi]

the problem with nostalgia reboots is you probably already got bored of the game because you played it to death previously.

[cursive crypt]

That kinda wrong tho. Nostalgia is not for the game, but for the fun you had

[fathom wadi]

recapturing that buzz is like trying to find that columbian coke dealer who gave you your first sniff. It's never gonna be the same

[median wraith]

the people think top notch graphics are the solution, but don't fit every gameplay etc content.
its like paint every building in red cuz is the new trend

[pearl elk]

Lemmings 3D

[cursive crypt]

No

[quasi mantle]

Also the problem with nostalgia is that you picture the exact same thing, but with high quality assets to deliver it,

cough Final Fantasy fans

[pearl elk]

They actually did do Theme Hospital reboots so thats cool

[fathom wadi]

@cursive crypt thats my point. you won't get the same fun once you outplayed a game. You just remember when it was good. It doesn't mean you still have that same thrill. Take WOW Classic for example. That game died on its arse because people had already played through it to death and there was the same problems with end game as before. Once you complete it, there is nothing else to do. So the community just disappeared

[cursive crypt]

I agree. Tho I reached up to wc3 only

[fathom wadi]

great game, from what I remember :p

[quasi mantle]

Some of them were pissed by how Final Fantasy VII Remake isn't the exact replica, beat-to-beat in terms of story, and the theory of Whispers being the metaphorical representation of the old fans who want just that.

[pearl elk]

Theres plenty of games I can still play, even though Ive played the crap outta em. Older games tend to irritate me by not having updated features

[fathom wadi]

I may sound like a heretic here, but Final Fantasy 7 had some seriously boring sections and I didn't feel invested in any of the characters. Some of the grind for your super weapons was utterly shite too

it needed a reboot

game mechanics when they are new are always better than when you are used to them. I think thats why some games are even popular

[quasi mantle]

I agree. The original PS1 version felt a bit disjointed, and deserves "remake" (read: reimagining) more than other more story focused FF games.

[fathom wadi]

Take Command and Conquer or Red Alert. Back then they were the bomb. Even though C&C 1 was a bit poor, Red alert fixed a lot of that and made a fun game. Now go back and play it. It's boring as anything and feels dire 😄

[pearl elk]

Red Alerts are the worst tbh, Tiberium Sun ftw

[fathom wadi]

C*C Zero Hour was my shiz

[quasi mantle]

Considering that FF7 was Square's very first large scale project at that time.

[foggy path]

Generals was fun yeah even though it seems a bit underappreciated

[pearl elk]

Generals was better than what came after

[fathom wadi]

I could see the advancement in C&C 3 but it just seemed like extra convolution to make something different to me

[foggy path]

I liked C&C 3

[quasi mantle]

Some people said that FF9 deserve Remake treatment, when that game is already much better presented in many aspects than OG FF7 even in its original form.

[fathom wadi]

it was polished for sure

[foggy path]

Supreme Commander tho is one of the greats, just gets a bit painful to manage if you play it too hardcore :D

Supcom's ability to fully zoom out from the map is a feature all RTS games need

[fathom wadi]

yeah I have a friend who plays it to this day. I watched him play once and it seemed conplicated 😄

[foggy path]

It's not really a complicated game at the basic level, but it can become very large scale so it becomes complicated to manage everything

[fathom wadi]

I've seen Korean Starcraft players micro-manage with less complexity really 😄 But I guess if you play it you know your way around it. I just stared at it like "ok I get it but I dont get it but I get it.... I think" 😄

[pearl elk]

Make Brawlers great again

[fathom wadi]

Didn't they do that with Streets of Rage 4? I mean it wasn't my thing but it looked great

I want to see old school FPS twitch combat make a comeback. I hunger for another Unreal Tournament game with a twist that makes it stand out

[foggy path]

the River City Ransom remake/new version was good as well

[pearl elk]

Theres better brawlers out there, Streets of Rage is actually on the old school side of things

[foggy path]

didn't play River City Girls but that one seemed to get a decent reception as well

[pearl elk]

Newer ones went more 3d iso and kicked ass

[foggy path]

a lot of the 3D art brawlers didn't look so great imo

[fathom wadi]

I've been playing League of Legends again recently. Not sure why. It's a game where you start out, then 5 minutes in you get abused for 10-20 minutes until everyone forfeits the game or ragequits.

[pearl elk]

Its not so much about the art its bout the gameplay, 3d space is more interesting for combat

[foggy path]

CPS2 has some of the best in the genre I think

[pearl elk]

Tbh Id love a LoL or DoTA2 that was more like a fighting game, less turn based

Managing timers yay