Actually just chuck the whole renderer out the window.
#lounge
regal pecan
humble remnant
Everything becomes character capsule collisions
regal pecan
I'm not even sure what else there is in game dev. Touch, sound, sight... Debugging? Translations?
humble remnant
Also I think it would be possible to have a base color and emissive on a material
But with literally nothing else, just plain texture
regal pecan
A material? Does the PSP do even opengl?
humble remnant
It has its own renderer
It's pretty ancient but it supports transparency
Screenshot of a game that ran decently on it
quasi mantle
Here's the thing
I tried to make the most barebone project ever. No gameplay plugins, no networking, no additional sound players.
Managed to get the size down to 40 MB ish, but the RAM usage is 400 MB ish, even with 32-bit exec
humble remnant
Deffo a problem I'll have to get through
I suspect all the dlls getting injected is what bumps the number up
With software rendering (or pseudo-software) I suspect you can drop down the RAM usage by a lot
regal pecan
I'd love to know why, besides art, programs keep getting bigger and bigger.
quasi mantle
If you really want to reach PSP, maybe consider homebrewing id Tech 2 engine
Not sure about id Tech 3 tho (Quake 3 Arena)
humble remnant
I have Quake installed right now
regal pecan
Does every third party feel it needs to allocate 32kb per function?
humble remnant
Someone ported the damn thing
Haven't tried Quake 2 but I assume it would be kinda trivial
regal pecan
Quake very nearly runs in DOS though. I take that back. It Does run in DOS. 16MB power!
humble remnant
It runs on PSP at 60 fps
Actually gaming
But I'm curious about porting something I'm familiar with
In this case, Unreal Engine
quasi mantle
Then severely modified the engine into TPS
Just like Heretic 2 did with id Tech 2 or even Rune did with UE1.
quasi mantle
In this case, Unreal Engine
UE2 source code never published outside so you could reverse engineer it
But it won't worth the hassle.
humble remnant
Deffo not worth
UE1 was posted in the shape of UT99 source but it doesn't have the software rendering component that I need the most
My plan is to break down the software rendering and apply PSP optimizations where possible
quasi mantle
Also kinda wished PS1 port of Unreal '98 not cancelled
humble remnant
But also running entirely software rendering might be possible
The PSP has a 333 MHz CPU so that can be enough to run things
quasi mantle
There are few graphically impressive PS1 games like Vagrant Story (albeit the engine don't have dynamic lights)
humble remnant
The PSP is between PS1 and PS2 in terms of capability
It can deffo reach some better graphics on some spots, like it does in Resistance Retribution
quasi mantle
Also not too long ago I managed to port few of Unreal '98 musics into PS1. Since most of them are in tracker format, porting process is kinda seamless.
humble remnant
quasi mantle
Unfortunately I deleted my Windows XP VM that I use to get Psy-Q running, and it doesn't work on Windows 10 64-bit.
humble remnant
I think I'd rather focus on getting rendering done before anything else
I think that'll be the biggest hurdle considering the tiny amount of RAM available
barren grove
The feeling when a bug affects about 50% of your game, you patched it, but you have no idea why it was a bug in the first place, or if it will ever create problems again in the future
Fun times
pearl elk
when you call it a bug but its really a category 5 kaiju
barren grove
Bring on the Jaegers
foggy path
solid aurora
idk
PlayWay
is one of the most succesfull company
hate it or love it
they are dropwning in money
fluid bloom
Bring on the Jaegers
cursive crypt
Market, it can be annoying sometimes 🤷♂️
Like people can sell trash and be rich out of it. (I dunno about that company up).
foggy path
Yeah I don't know if PlayWay's way of developing is necessarily bad
but they definitely are having a bit of a stigma of having a lot of similar games which are often a bit meh
we momentarily pondered approaching playway about our game because they published a lot of games with a somewhat similar premise as ours but we'd probably want to dodge that bullet :P
yeah I played the demo
I thought it was kinda fun
cursive crypt
If you dump 100 uhmm.... brown things on the wall, at least one will stick 🧠
foggy path
some of their games are alright, but some of them not, and I think tons of them stay on the "this is a game we promise and not a trailer only" :D
quasi mantle
Here's a profound quote
Nitpicky people create anything from ground zero everytime and lagging behind, while lazy people create tools to ease their job and get the job done quicker in subsequent work
barren grove
I remember when I just started, I was looking tutorials with the latest version, because "No, I don't wanna watch these! They are old! With old info!"
Meanwhile now, I watch tutorials and info from 4.05 or something and they are useful af
light spruce
Especially if you consider "ground zero" to be the site of a disaster.
Sometimes, I wonder how many Discord updates I install over the course of a week.
quasi mantle
Also, have you lads check out Lost Soul Aside? That one UE4 game that used to be one man project?
light spruce
Is it now a zero man proejct?
fathom wadi
When a company are a bunch of deceptive arseholes, theres only one way to confirm you want your account deleting.
normal prism
@river kindle, considering your username:
https://youtu.be/79ghNNGHEC0
I would kill for a modern Jedi Knight game 😦
fathom wadi
not sure it would hold up as a faithful recreation these days but for sure a reboot would be great.
cursive crypt
KOTOR please.
normal prism
not sure it would hold up as a faithful recreation these days but for sure a reb...
I'll settle for that 😄
fathom wadi
there is a kotor reboot being made
normal prism
Yap
cursive crypt
Heard something, but didn't had a look.
fathom wadi
if you want a KotoR game though, Star Wars The Old Republic is the legit sequel if you ask me.
I think the timelines co-incide along the way so its not a sequel, more of a pre-sequel 😄
cursive crypt
Ooh 🤔
soft night
the bad batch is close to coming
cursive crypt
I will keep it in mind, maybe in the upcoming months will sit to play a bit.
fathom wadi
there is a new expansion coming so it might be nice to get into then. But if you are starting fresh you have like 8 years of content to play through. It will take a few weeks/months to catch up depending how you play. It's brilliant though.
cursive crypt
8 years? wdym
fathom wadi
they do let you do that "start at level X" thing though. So you can skip a lot
cursive crypt
Tho maybe, I played kotor when it was pff... long ago
fathom wadi
I mean, it was released in like 2012 or something? Maybe im a year or two out
cursive crypt
Wasn't earlier? Interesting. OR wait you talk about this other game, not kotor?
cursive crypt
lol, ok MMO?
cursive crypt
Aah, now I remember. There was a talk with its weird professions and stuff.
fathom wadi
yeah the professions are a bit naff but they are also kinda pointless these days
cursive crypt
Say, not enough chefs or shoe makers, along the lines 😄
fathom wadi
most people keep up their professions just because of habit but they have very little use, especially as money isn't hard to come back
*by
quasi mantle
Is it now a zero man proejct?
"More than one man" project
It got new extended preview
cursive crypt
Ooh, tbf last MMO I played was FF14... that's huuuge time sink. I gotta think good before jumping into such stuff. Might wait just for that remake of kotor instead.
Thanks tho 👍
fathom wadi
yeah it's something I invested a couple of years into before I quit. But I come back every couple of years and check it out
unborn lotus
I would kill for a modern Jedi Knight game 😦
Ever played fallen order?
cursive crypt
yeah it's something I invested a couple of years into before I quit. But I come ...
hehe... nice
normal prism
Ever played fallen order?
I didn't like it so much tbh, very different game
It's a quality game, no doubt about it, but it's way different
light spruce
It's Dark Souls with platforming
normal prism
Too much action for my taste, while running through a themepark
Crates everywhere
Bleh
Too much of an environment constructed for the player, vs being immersed in an environment that functions without thinking it's a videogame
Arcadey 🙂
light spruce
I think that I would prefer that to the other extreme of old games... where none of it makes any logical sense as to how it would function
"Commander, we need you on the bridge." "I'll be there in 35 minutes. Gotta get through this fucking maze I forgot my keycard on the nightstand"
fathom wadi
Fallen Order was half a game and half a Wizard of Oz ruse. It looks amazing, the lighting and graphics are top notch. The level design is great. But when it comes to the actual game. Oof. Missed the boat on a few things, like purpose, character development and loot.
cursive crypt
lol, I think old games now are like requiring patience. Or I was stupid back then 😄
light spruce
Yeah, trying to go back and play old games.. shit
There are so many just.. quality of life improvements at this point
cursive crypt
Yeah, hard to compare. Still, I think there were kinda hard in a sense 🤔
normal prism
Yeah, hard to compare. Still, I think there were kinda hard in a sense 🤔
Everything is streamlined to the extreme these days
light spruce
Obviously depends a lot on what game(s) or kind we're talking about. Some of it being artificial difficulty. Some of it requiring an entire manual.
cursive crypt
Well, starting from around the 90s. Like nothing specifically comes to mind now. I just remember spending hours trying to cover something which would be trivial nowadays.
light spruce
Yeah, that's symptomatic of the problem right there
normal prism
ahahaha
light spruce
Some things being so obtuse that you had good odds of not getting through it
I started off playing games on an Atari 800... so I've played my share of things
cursive crypt
Some Quest's games were notorious... I'm still angry I didn't got to know the name of that dwarf next to the lake in King's Quest one. Like, 25+ years problem I'm dragging here.
light spruce
I don't that I played much of the first one
normal prism
Some Quest's games were notorious... I'm still angry I didn't got to know the na...
You're from the 80s? I didn't get to experience that era
cursive crypt
God this discussion is starting to make me feel old
^^^
light spruce
I just remember "man, what a cheap Robin Hood looking fucker"
Was it King's Quest II where you were a janitor for some asshole wizard?
cursive crypt
tbf, didn't reached to play the later ones. I don't think I was able to even win the 1st part. Like there was this point system - always so far.
light spruce
I played a number of Sierra games... but that's... way back.
Quest for Glory was the series that I "got into"
Until whatever that awful 3D something 5th one
cursive crypt
Ofc, there you go tho, it shapes us. For example, I remember in Hero's Quest climbing one specific tree like hundred of times just to level up. I'm definitely adding climbing trees in my personal project now.
light spruce
And throwing rocks
light spruce
And picking your nose as long as you had a high enough skill not to somehow stab yourself in the brain
cursive crypt
That part I don't remember 🤔 There was some scary moments tho, with the witch in the forest.
light spruce
They changed the name because of the Hero's Quest board game
cursive crypt
Oh, wait that was in King's 🤦 I'm confusing it.
soft night
SeaQUest what a show
light spruce
Baba Yaga was in the forest in QfG
cursive crypt
Not sure I have seen it. Some beach and dolphins come to mind.
light spruce
Damned chicken leg hut
cursive crypt
Favourite place to chill, the magic tree.
Especially when chased by some dinosaur, lol
light spruce
There was some weird shit in that game
cursive crypt
True, lol
light spruce
4 had some great art direction... but man, was that game buggy as balls
cursive crypt
Oh? Heard mixed things for the other parts.
light spruce
It's a bit of a Lovecraft/Transylvania type mashup thematically
It's a lot darker in tone
But it's narrated by John-Rhys Davies
aaaaaaaand it contains one of my favorite lines ever...
"You feel around in the hole for a bit... and pull out.. a rabbit! ... Well ... not really. But wouldn't it have been neat if you had?"
cursive crypt
lol
severe coral
fathom wadi
On the previous topic of SWTOR. This just happened. #darthmalgus
fresh heath
Darth Dingus
humble remnant
I see one
stiff crystal
@light spruce you've seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv530b0DGtw
someone just did the first game's village/town in 3D, I think he used UDK for that if I remember right
would have been cool to see first person 3D approach on these games, skyrim style
I've played the series a ton, especially the first game's EGA version
well, everything but the fifth part
I have it but I never cared to even install it
light spruce
I haven't seen that. I did see the remake of 2 that followed the change to the point and click instead of the text interpreter
broken sigil
lol
spare thorn
Looking to form a team to make a low poly style shooter
fathom wadi
I always feel bad for the low polys when I have to shoot them. Poor things ain't even seen a subdivide yet and I frontface cull them. feelsbadman
torpid star
time for an upgrade:
river kindle
<@!461630350095941633>, considering your username:
https://youtu.be/79ghNNGHEC0
amazing
toxic forum
Any of you play around with the Cesium plugin yet? Its pretty awesome, anyone have some good tutorials they can recommend? So far I have a cool world but my pawn is not capturing correctly and a couple other little things...
red pewter
time for an upgrade:
the struggle is real... I'm using the exact same CPU
threadripper or bust
torpid star
heck yeah
turns out u need a boatload of ram if u want compile with lots of cores
my puny 32gb's wont be enough for a ryzen
red pewter
seriously?
torpid star
yep
red pewter
I was hoping to just do 32
torpid star
about 1.5gb per core
I feel like DDR5 is around the corner
I don't want to buy more DDR4 D:
red pewter
per core or pre thread?
torpid star
both I think
for every cl.exe instance, which ends up being 1 per virtual core
iirc
torpid star
eh this is offtopic
anyhow maybe I'll try delidding my i7 7th gen
the thermal perf is abysmal, can't run it oc'd in the summer
red pewter
reaching 85c here
light spruce
delidding is one of those things that doesn't need to exist
they should have made it right to begin with
bronze jacinth
I'm trying to learn how to make games right now but I don't really know where to start. Could I get some help? I've watched like one or 2 tutorials online but thats the furthest I've gotten before I got stumped on where to go next
humble remnant
Well
Plan a game to make first and foremost
Avoid multiplayer so that you get a flow for it
You can't learn from watching a couple tutorials
I'd say that you learn the most from doing things yourself, failing, then knowing what not to do later
Also don't be afraid of failing
bronze jacinth
honestly I don't even know enough to know how to fail if I'm going to be honest
humble remnant
You won't get something perfect day 1
And limit your scope as much as you can so that you don't go to tangents that make it ridiculously hard
bronze jacinth
The idea I had was to try and "remake" something like early COD Zombies
humble remnant
That's actually a good start
Make the player character, let it shoot, have it deal damage to a dummy enemy
Make a simple test map with a few rooms, then have enemies spawn at a few locations
Add an AI so that they can get to you
Then get to implementing different weapons
And don't bother implementing assets too early on
Get your gameplay going
It's perfectly OK to use grey boxes, placeholder labels and similar while you're still doing the basics of it
real palm
Picking a random target (that is small enough scope) and going directly for it (and then researching the smallest thing that blocks you) is how I did it.
bronze jacinth
do you know where I can go to learn how to make these? I have no idea how to make an AI or deal damage or make something that can shoot
humble remnant
Check out the first person template
real palm
Don't know how to place blocks well enough to grey box? Time to find a tutorial on greyboxing that covers editor controls.
Don't know how to do damage? Figure out what you can do to do damage. ue4 bp damage
Or, pick tutorials/courses/youtube vlogs and follow those to get some verbiage
humble remnant
Do small things at a time
Open the editor, make a new project from the fps template, goof around a bit, then work your way from there
pearl elk
learning some theory is always good too so you can communicate what it is you want to do 🙂
real palm
some things you want an existing toybox for. Like if you did rounds. Don't want to remake your entire project to experiment with ideas.
other things you want to start with a fresh slate. Like if you want to try multiplayer.
pearl elk
ludio ludius imperium
bronze jacinth
Where should I go to learn some theory?
My idea with my first project is start with the basic round base and try to expand it to something that would be mine
humble remnant
I wouldn't say that idea is bad
It's perfectly reasonable
Just start a template project, click on some assets and you'll see how things happen
pearl elk
Wikipedia is one of my go to starting points tbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_design
at the bottom of that page you'll find a portal to video games, wikipedia have a whole series of articles on the topic of game design including a glossary of video game terms.
pearl elk
we heard you like browsers so we made a browser for your browser
zinc matrix
cursive crypt
keen solstice
balmy ridge
some of them features were great, just don't update the engine or you are dead
i was making a mobile game in 2019 and they were changing the whole system in every update, fx graph, URP... every shader turned pink in a minimal update
light spruce
I thought it was funnier when I read that as "no escape" instead of ECS
Though my brain is running about as well as a barn find Lada right now
foggy path
just as well as it ran when it rolled off the shop floor? lol
robust shale
Sometimes I think Unity's CEO is that guy who did Duke Nukem Forever. Just rollin' into the office every day "YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT*S COOOL?!"
light spruce
which one?
robust shale
George Broussard
light spruce
Ah. Because that didn't actually help remove that fart charlatan Randy Pitchford from the list
robust shale
oh, is Pitchford in bad standing? I haven't heard?
I was surprised even Tim Willits left ID, talk about days numbered
light spruce
Dude is a complete toolbox
light spruce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Pitchford#Litigation there was all that fuckery. I don't know what the big deal is though. I always take porn on a USB drive to Medieval Times.
light spruce
Aliens: Colonial Marines. Never forget.
robust shale
I remember playing the alien mod that birthed the term "foxed" 🙂
light spruce
I don't; I'm not even familiar with the term
robust shale
ahh, it's when a studio shut downs a game/mod for copyright infringement, maybe it's not used so much anymore
cursive crypt
What? 
regal pecan
Feathering?
light spruce
distressed.
light spruce
Distressed is what he's looking for. Referring to it as the "translucent part" was probably less helpful
Well, unless it is feathering, but that's different
cursive crypt
Never heard of "distressed" lol
Feathering... kinda, yeah.
Sounds like "stressed" to me.
stressed edge
light spruce
distressed would be that for like torn/jagged type parts
cursive crypt
Too much problems.
robust shale
alpha is feathering I'd say, style watercolor (-ish?)
cursive crypt
We dunno, you came with the weird question.
light spruce
feathering should be a gradient method
robust shale
I dont think it's specific enough to have its own term tbh
regal pecan
Like greebling but for 2d edges
light spruce
ponkkis will remember that.
barren grove
can i describe a gameplay loop I have for my game and you guys/gals tell me how it sounds?
It's a stealth game, where you infiltrate high tech labs, avoid guards and cameras and hack PCs.
One of the gameplay loops is, when you guess security questions (like "what's my pet's name") you get hacking points. You can use those hacking points to hack emails for info (answers to more security questions, passwords and lab keycodes) or transfer those hacking points around other computers in the network. One of those computers is a security computer and it controls the cameras, but you need plenty hacking points to disable cameras/gun turrets, so you have to read emails, study the environment so you answer security questions and get points to get enough Hacking to hack cameras.
unborn lotus
that sounds fun, but like a lot of work to do and maintain fresh
barren grove
It's gonna be one big level for my portfolio, so I think I can afford the extra work, because it's not a full game's worth of content.
unborn lotus
my suggestion is to have it in a closed lab for the holidays, no guards, just cameras and tech stuff so it's easier to do...having characters that move around sounds too hard to do
light spruce
related note: have you played Gunpoint?
spare thorn
Selling a 100 building low poly city. Dm with offers
regal pecan
So when you guess the answers, or when you get it correct, or when you're literally guessing which question it will be? 😄
light spruce
@spare thorn that's not for lounge.
fathom wadi
@spare thorn what is the licensing like? Are they legit modelled yourself or just scammed from another source?
spare thorn
<@!533407833778159626> what is the licensing like? Are they legit modelled yours...
Computer generated, commercial licence I believe
fathom wadi
source?
cursive crypt
sauce
fathom wadi
@cursive crypt ketchup obviously. BBQ is it's a nice grilled meat
cursive crypt
Not-smoked one.
fathom wadi
yeah its bullshit hes a scammer. Asking around for mobile devs too. Sounds like some random
cursive crypt
Imaging mods resting fingers on the ban button
light spruce
Trust me, bro. This is a real Rolexx.
cursive crypt
🤔 that gif ain't snitchin
spare thorn
yeah its bullshit hes a scammer. Asking around for mobile devs too. Sounds like ...
I have a blender add-on that makes randomly genersted cities
So no bs
fathom wadi
I see. Perhaps im jumping the gun then. That being said, I can get the blender plugin now thanks for the heads up :p
cursive crypt
lul, maybe it is not so "auto", you need to add kitchenware yourself
fathom wadi
It's ok I have a couple of city generators. But I see where you are getting them now and have less of a problem with it 😄
spare thorn
What city generators do u have?
fathom wadi
city generator ex plus alpha 2
spare thorn
Did u pay?
fathom wadi
yeah 20p a game but I can make it last because I can get to the last level
seriously... I dont know what they are called. I just collect plugins until I need them.
cursive crypt
Guilty of the same 🤔
spare thorn
O ok
barren grove
related note: have you played Gunpoint?
No haven't played Gunpoint yet, but it's on my wishlist
fathom wadi
There are some nice ones for Blender tho. Everyone went on a mission at one point and there are a few really good ones
I have a nice one for Unreal Engine too from a couple of years back
fathom wadi
That sounds illegal
barren grove
my suggestion is to have it in a closed lab for the holidays, no guards, just ca...
I want to showcase my AI skills... so people have to be there
spare thorn
Can I sell the cities if they're generated?
barren grove
not that i disagree with your suggestion, I would agree if you told it to anyone else, but it takes away from what I want to create
spare thorn
Is that still piracy
fathom wadi
I always wonder about getting plugins from alternate sources because they are python based and if I were wanting to protect my assets, I'd probably add something less destructive but equally as annoying
@spare thorn no the Blender license covers it. You can generate commercially
fathom wadi
its fine. They have to add it as GPL
spare thorn
K
fathom wadi
Blender kind of locks you into their licensing for anything that uses Blender tech. Assets etc are a different thing but if the tools generate them from blender its the same license
light spruce
I only thought of Gunpoint because of guards and cameras. Is quality game. Can hit people with door.
fathom wadi
anyway sorry for the accusation and intrusion there IFX. But there are a lot of scams so being vigilant is part of the job. Especially when licensing is serious business.
have fun
light spruce
that's my recommendation for Gunpoint.
spare thorn
And abt the mobile games, I just wonna do smt with someone lol
fathom wadi
yeah. Fortunately we have a channel for advertising those kind of jobs in #volunteer-projects and #freelance-jobs and #salary-jobs
median wraith
Twitter
fathom wadi
I miss my twitter feed. It was epic for art and game dev.
fathom wadi
it took me a long time to get my feed right for the artwork. At first it was full of people bullying each other, talking out of their arse and trying to change the world from their mobile phones whilst living inside the bubble of the website. Eventually filtered it all out. Oddly enough, right as Trump's tenure ended, my feed went from psychosis to artistic beauty in a new york minute.
even when I blocked the words "trump, politics, geopolitics" and a bunch of others, Trump would always get through. It was like they wanted you to see it
carmine frigate
a lot of ppl never heared of twitter b4 he used it 😛
when the 6 o clock news turned into some1 just reading twitter posts from a few people
regal pecan
It was like they wanted you to see it
That's how election season works. Granted, it would make little sense if you're not in the US. Which is even stranger since the US hears almost nothing about politics elsewhere, so you know they can filter it.
carmine frigate
he was just generating lots of clicks, i bet you clicked a few times 😛
regal pecan
Clicking? On ads promoted content? Shun!
carmine frigate
hey i dunno how twitter works
regal pecan
But Dementiurge, it's all promoted content
carmine frigate
any president that doesnt turn the whole world into ash is good in my book 😛
regal pecan
Your standards are low, and yet too high.
carmine frigate
its like a thing... that could happen and there is no coming back from that
regal pecan
Meanwhile in video game land: Kill all the beautiful creatures.
carmine frigate
10$ pretty steep for some meme game:P
regal pecan
What was it about the 90s that they thought presidents would be kidnapped as a prelude to nuking the entire planet, and there's only ever one man for the job?
cursive crypt
Steep? There is no steep, ppl buy amazing stuff sometimes.
barren grove
If there was a game to kill Ronald Rump I'd buy it for a dollar
regal pecan
Presumably it is, you just stand there.
ancient hornet
regal pecan
5:00 Looks okay... wait, is that wall crawling?
carmine frigate
damn that was helle booring
i dont watch lighting videos for that exact reason
look at bounce here and bounce there
regal pecan
I enjoyed the eye candy.
ancient hornet
seems it's a RTX only version of the game even 😄
regal pecan
The crawling/swimming from the denoiser and low sample rate probably means they brightened up the ambiet a bit in most scenes... So the dramatic darkness in the old RTGI shots looked a little better.
median wraith
many scenes in that video looks like realtime limitations actual downgrades, but the narrator pretends to sell it as quality
ancient hornet
at around 23:00 there is a look at their dev tools and some tricks they ised
median wraith
Back in the days I said if you don't cast shadows at all looks more realistic at some cases
2021 Ray tracing
Where the shadow from the stairs gone ? Narnia
Up to some extend its how the light works, but in this case not even the non light side from the stair gets light
So if you place a total no shadows light here will return the same quality for no cost
regal pecan
Where do you find an area light with no cost?
regal pecan
You'll still need shadows or some form of occlusion for the stairs on the upper left.
median wraith
You'll still need shadows or some form of occlusion for the stairs on the upper ...
yeah but nobody will notice it if you never showcase the quality image 👀
regal pecan
Light bleed is noticed by everyone. Not easy to solve for a dynamic omnidirectional area light.
That said, so many games are static scenes anyway. Bake bake bake
regal pecan
I can't help but notice there's a magical light emanating from in front of the captive's crotch. On the left side (RTGI?)
median wraith
yeah idk
regal pecan
Graphics programmer: I made for you a cutting edge almost photorealistic rendering engine.
Artist: I put light source in the middle of nothing.
median wraith
and why RTGI / RTShadows have leaks ?
like are traces from camera why have shadow cascade errors ?
regal pecan
This for the video author is realistic
Tritium sights. They shouldn't be that bright, but... uh... artists? or revenge of the dynamic contrast goblin.
median wraith
its seems like they still using cascade and SSS ?
regal pecan
I imagine RTX hates particle effects when you need 30 frames to accumulate.
median wraith
Tritium sights. They shouldn't be that bright, but... uh... artists? or revenge ...
it seems like they should add to the materials a checkbox to affect GI
otherwise cases as that one or skybox will give problems
anyway back to my work, still got Impressed by the tech under Enlisted
red pewter
light spruce
Dick "Rock-Hard" Johnson, a bulletproof man.
If tritium sights were that bright, it might actually be possible to use night sights worth a shit in reasonable lighting conditions
regal pecan
And they'd burn your vision in darkness.
light spruce
It's almost like I'm saying that tritium sights are garbage
Terrible visibility during the day. And at night, you still need to be able to identify your target, so you still have to have a light.
regal pecan
Tritium also decays, so if you did make them bright you'd still need to replace them frequently. When you could instead use.... LEDs... or a laser or I don't know. A minigun. Why aim at all.
light spruce
Too heavy. That's why explosives were invented.
regal pecan
I think TNT was made for digging. Insert witty comparison between digging and armor penetration.
SMGs have a decent fire rate... Not sure if their being tiny hand-held miniguns is the intent.
If tritium sights were that bright, in darkness they'd be decent shoot-me beacons.
turbid spindleBOT
:triangular_flag_on_post: ThaGOAT#9269 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.
light spruce
actually, TNT was made by accident
and then was very much used specifically with armor penetrating rounds
You were probably thinking of dynamite
regal pecan
Yes I was.
light spruce
I definitely want the job of the guy who has to go rotate the dynamite in the stock room
dense storm
@dark lichen what are these pictures for?
if they are for VC, use the #vc-artist-alley channel.
deep glen
<_< you could have removed the images when UKSpec pointed out they shouldnt be here.
Please do so next time!
light spruce
I'm starting to realize that I need a much larger primary display. Can I just get like.. a big square?
dark lichen
Anyone know why my lighting particles show when the particle system is hidden ingame?
regal pecan
Get a projector. ALL the big.
deep glen
@light spruce go for a LG 43UN700-B XD
@dark lichen ask in the right channel? if niagara #niagara
dark lichen
Saw justin asking a question & thought it was ok
light spruce
I'll admit, I almost though the XD was part of the model name
deep glen
lol, i actually noticed there are much bigger monitors with decent refresh rates nowadays.
though i dont think i'd want a 90 inch monitor on my desk
light spruce
It's not as expensive as I would have expected it to be
(which means it probably looks like buttholes)
This is the weirdest promo photo.... https://www.lg.com/us/images/monitors/md07000640/feature/MNT-43UN700-03-Office-IPS-Anti-Glare-D.jpg
Like all those people are composited in
And you have the classic "pointing with a pen (with nothing to actually write on)", "chin contemplation", but then they threw in the wild card... the guy on the right is looking past "pointing with a pen" out into the blinding white void that seems to be consuming existence.
deep glen
they couldnt find anybody willing to be seen with that monitor
light spruce
Really, their whole product page is just upsetting
regal pecan
Is that image to scale? Looks bigger than 43.
light spruce
Based on relative sizes of things like Keyboard™️ brand keyboard and the mouse... I think we're seeing non-Euclidean geometry
foggy path
Great, I pressed Ctrl-W to see if it would close a tab while editing some blueprints and it duplicated like 12 assets that I had previously selected in the file browser 🤦
humble remnant
https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748712.jpg
Delulu land right there
So many MMORPGs are coming out exactly with those ideas
light spruce
Great, I pressed Ctrl-W to see if it would close a tab while editing some bluepr...
The best part about that is that when you want to duplicate a variable or something else in a blueprint, it doesn't actually do anything 98% of the time.
regal pecan
Patenting a video game storyline where there's only one ending but your choices still matter. Contact my autoresponder for licensing.
light spruce
I suppose that's really the best thing you can hope for, honestly. You hit Ctrl+W and nothing happens. Otherwise, something you don't want to happen is absolutely going to.
foggy path
Yeah it's a bit weird, same with Ctrl-S and Ctrl-shift-S
Sometimes it doesn't save. It's very comforting
:P
fathom wadi
Great, I pressed Ctrl-W to see if it would close a tab while editing some bluepr...
funnily enough, a feature not a bug. 😄
foggy path
How is that a feature
fathom wadi
I tell you what is a bug though, when you spend months in Blender and come back to UE4 and forget how to navigate and start using space to search for things in a material 😄
foggy path
the way Blender does shortcuts is better tbh.
fathom wadi
aye
foggy path
eg. you press X it won't randomly just delete your starter cube unless you're actually trying to do it
:D
fathom wadi
Come to think about it, if the tab is closed where the items were selected, it should have nulled the selection as it can't get any reference. I know this because of editor plugins when you have to access different blueprint classes and you shift focus, it doesn't have scope anymore. But I guess there is something retained with a selection.
foggy path
yeah who knows, the way the editor handles windows and such is weird anyway..
like I'd understand it maybe sending ctrl-w to content browser if it was visible
fathom wadi
yeah its literally scoped in most cases, so if the tab doesn't exist with it open, there is no editor access without deep diving into the asset manager
foggy path
but I had the BP editor fullscreened on top of the main window so it definitely should not be doing that :D
light spruce
God help you if you have separate windows laid out like I do
Speaking of Windows... Time to rearrange like 15 of them because my displays turned off while I was in the shower
vscode was the only thing that didn't move somehow
pearl elk
Everything kinda runs off the main window in unrealed, been like that forever
robust shale
You know you've been working from home too long when you're working in Rider and it autocorrects "Effects" to "Effectses" and you do a Gollum impression to no one in particular
fluid bloom
robust shale
Maybe I should do all my programming Gollum roleplaying, sure would make things more fun. Albeit that'd be a sign of me going mad, and perhaps not do it consulting, would make for akward Zoom chats. "The stackssesss use the stackses not the heapsess, Garbage collection! NO NO NO. Check the thread, only call on right thread. Stupid stupid stupid" Other people in meeting: 👀
median wraith
Sell your organs:
Consent []
Legitimate Interest [X]
fluid bloom
waiting for gollum-lang
robust shale
reminds me of my dating questionaire
Gollum-Lang would be amaz
threads would be "trixies" , exception handling with "trysies",
fluid bloom
and only a single global variable allowed, named precious
robust shale
😄
torpid star
Got an embedded WASM/WASI (webassembly) VM working in engine as a plugin.
median wraith
Can someone that player sniper warrior tell me whats the top left numbers over the horizon center line ?
torpid star
using it for server plugins, but was thinking of making a quick ue api for it. Lets you use any lang that can target WASI.
C/Rust/AssemblyScript. C# target is in the works iirc
median wraith
oh is the representation of the person size to determinate the distance
lol
Na, from center line to upper lines you calibrate on screen the size/shape of a person
the line where it ends its like the distance he is at
the smaller the longest the distance
pearl elk
thats weapon range isnt it
so it looks like thats 600m so should be aiming up so the 600 is near the head
real scopes have trim so you'd knock the trim up rather than aiming stupid high
fluid bloom
Can someone that player sniper warrior tell me whats the top left numbers over t...
what rifle is that?
it's probably an estimate of a distance vs apparent human height
median wraith
idk
fluid bloom
so you put feet at the horizon line and see where the head is and you get a distance estimate
median wraith
is a game mechanic rather than attached to a specific rifle, same way at right draws a helper line with the wind and fall of the bullet
tbh that could work on real ones
fluid bloom
which numbers are we talking about?
the ones along the curve on the top left quadrant?
median wraith
Left are to reference the soldiers distance, right is to reference the fall distance and have a white line that draws the fall affected by wind etc
plucky pagoda
In fairness, I'm fairly sure 3% is also about the percentage of people in any given group who would drink bleach if you told them it was a good idea. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1387583666398793735?s=20
fluid bloom
I just saw the pic and the question and started explaining
median wraith
In fairness, I'm fairly sure 3% is also about the percentage of people in any gi...
then comes the Taxes and charge you up 25% cut
🤖
then come Epic
and at some point turns your % is in negative
so you end paying for the game
tbh Taxes % is kinda absurd
at least here in my country
plucky pagoda
Steam is brutal with costs compared to EOS or itch.io. I'm happy to pay Epic royalties, if I ever have to.
Yeah, I've heard from some others in the same part of the world and it's hard for me to understand how much they say they are paying in taxes.
In the US, at least at the pittance levels I'm at, I'm able to offset most taxes.
fluid bloom
24% tax on non-necessities in Finland
14% for foodstuff
10% for medicine, cultural services and magazines
VAT that is
plucky pagoda
But what's been described to me seems higher than 24% on their sales revenue for indies. I don't have enough knowledge on it though.
mystic shuttle
Hello everyone, my name is TJ and I'm working on an indie game investment fund, where would be the best place to share on here? #freelance-jobs ?
torpid star
real gamers only: https://open.spotify.com/track/79reBHqpRoWXaQbjBBY3UC 2:45
deep glen
@mystic shuttle you might wanna take that up with @bronze axle
cursive crypt
I sense a thiiiin joke on the back of certain group of ppl oversea.
median wraith
""""hotel""""
if you have to go that hotel 5 times in your whole life
you paid 1 million in taxes and the cost of the hotel were 1000€
where you pay too taxes so you're paying taxes for taxes
😂
foggy path
average income is about 30k a year so good luck paying 1 million in taxes from that over your lifetime :D
compare it to living in the US where you still pay taxes on shit and get squat in return :p
median wraith
someone said we generate about 1 to 3 millions in our life
foggy path
well assuming you make 30k for 50 years that makes 1.5 mil so it's plausible
foggy path
I don't think you can get to 1 million in taxes from that even if you tried because it's 66% of your total income
you'd pay 315 000 in income tax assuming a 21% tax rate
solid aurora
what about VAT ?
what about taxes from other things, not just plain income ?
I can't even count the amount of taxes we have..
foggy path
assuming you spent all your remaining income on purchasing something you'd pay 284 400 in VAT assuming everything you pay has 24% VAT
I'm not sure what taxes you'd pay for "other things not just income" though
solid aurora
i think I soom will paying taxes for air, which in Poland would be quite ridicoulus xD
in Poland..
wait
I check..
ah
Trash
yeap
taxes for trash
foggy path
Right - you'd pay garbage collecting fees here pretty likely if you lived in your own house, so that would incur probably a 24% VAT
median wraith
in other hand you pay taxes to get public services paid by the state, if you pay a 21% and get covered 10k in medic expensives, these 10k have included VAT too on their incomes and tools costs, so we can say there is a infinite money generation loop ?
solid aurora
nah, you think it's for garbage collecting
it's not
it literally for Trash (;
and it is calculated in some really weird way
foggy path
Yeah but the point being you pay tax for trash through paying VAT for it in a sense :P
solid aurora
but it's beside the point I live in odd country
foggy path
@median wraith businesses don't pay VAT
VAT is only for business to consumer
most likely if you get covered by insurance there's no VAT type transactions in the insurance company paying for something
median wraith
<@!94317435246620672> businesses don't pay VAT
well they do here
I have to do 😂
I have to pay a 21% for a service I do to other company
solid aurora
well idk about you but i paid VAT recently
median wraith
as business
foggy path
Yeah but you don't pay the VAT yourself - you charge the VAT as part of your service
solid aurora
does it really matter ?
foggy path
Then if you purchase services or products for your business that includes VAT, you get to deduct that in taxes
solid aurora
you still paid money you can't invest [;
median wraith
well you pay it but you have to extra charge it later
foggy path
at least here you can sell between businesses with 0% VAT assuming both businesses are VAT registered and you have this information
but businesses do sell with VAT sometimes because it's simpler than having to figure out who's VAT registered and who isn't (you don't have to be)
median wraith
There is a an european VAT register
where is funny if I'm on it I don't need to charge VAT outside of my country if the other company is inside europe
foggy path
Yeah
I charge 0% VAT on consulting services to the US because that's also how it works
but it's complicated lol
median wraith
well but in america taxes are charged in different way
foggy path
how so?
median wraith
isn't like the people don't pay included VAT in products ?
foggy path
They do
foggy path
It's just not required for vendors to display VAT
so you see a price of 100 bucks in the US, it does not include tax... but you still pay the tax at the checkout
this varies by state, iirc some do require the tax to be displayed in price
also it's a sales tax, not a VAT, not really sure if there's any real difference beyond the name :P
median wraith
I thought you gave a tip in the bar
foggy path
sure, but that's because they pay the staff like shit
median wraith
because the VAT isn't included ?
foggy path
:D
foggy path
:D
median wraith
How normal its the engine gets freeze and rise up 10GB of Ram to save a UMG ?
the 4.26 is giving nightmares like that
aside from the last updates Windows 10 past from 4GB of Ram to use 8GB of Ram
light spruce
I see the problem right there. You only have 54% Disco.
light spruce
Disco is 100% all the way. Anyone who said disco is dead is a liar.
That joke may have been lost in translation.
median wraith
I got it don't worry lol
median wraith
yeah every english speaker does the disco joke
light spruce
Everyone loves that low-hanging fruit
pearl elk
I just love disco
light spruce
I'd prefer electro at this point. But that's mostly the same thing.
median wraith
Sega about sell NFTs
pearl elk
but Ms own NTFS 😛
light spruce
I wish they would replace NTFS
pearl elk
so can you sell NFTs via NFC
because if you say NFI that might be TMI
gangstas be all liek, check my blockchaingang
light spruce
Wait.. are NFTs that dumb shit "own" "limited" digital items?
pearl elk
its like mushrooms only less fun
hasty cargo
can be converted to mushroom
hasty cargo
this damp oak is quite fungible
light spruce
that just sounds inappropriate
pearl elk
its basically a word for unique
the idea that you cant use your fungible item to pay for something else is kinda stupid as the free market still exists
median wraith
what does fungible mean
Your shoes are fungible, a picture of your shoes in the computer isn't fungible
pearl elk
if you want to trade a one off pair of Jordans for a Ducati you can, neither are fungible
hasty cargo
so its.. like a publisher store currency? like blizzard tokens or somethin
but on the blockchain?
pearl elk
my shoes are unique yes, fungible... I dunno
sounds like a buzzword to sell snake oil to stupid rich people
can you buy another pair of shoes like mine and swap them without me looking, possibly
I saw a DJ group I follow sell one of their songs right but they didnt sell the song, what they sold was the ownership of the song so whoever bought it gets all the profits
which is basically what already happens in the music industry with masters anyways
fresh heath
median wraith
Nice
12% VAT and 50% prices inflation in europe
*of their own games
Do you think Steam will change the % ?
Humble Bundle had low rates since the start
right now I don't know whats the share
but I think enter into Epic store isn't a easy task
from what someones said
soft night
the lots of windows devices so yeah get that games on there
as news came about how many devices have windows on recently so now that try what they did before seems more useful
soft night
The WindowsStore they are reworking it
light spruce
okay, fine
light spruce
just burn it all down
light spruce
THIS IS POD RACING
(as opposed to some other kind of racing that looks like the shit of the dog)
light spruce
I always "enjoyed" when people say they watched Nascar "for the wrecks". Yes, I too enjoy watching people get injured, fellow psychopath
pearl elk
thats cuz the wrecks are more interesting than the racing 😛
soft night
that why there is wrecking cars too
light spruce
Rally. WATCH SPECTATORS DIE
pearl elk
lol thats why this track is lined with cement barriers
light spruce
You do still get the occasional tire launched into the stands
pearl elk
lol on the Gold Coast part of the suspension landed up on someones balcony on the high rises that line the track
dooooing
light spruce
Yeah. That's a reason I'd never work on springs.
You have to trust that the compressor isn't going to fail, because if it does, it's got enough energy in it to break your fucking femur
pearl elk
that was V8 Supercars though, those things hit the barriers doing very high speeds
light spruce
"With a few quick selections, you'll be on your way to enjoying the full Microsoft experience."
real palm
I always "enjoyed" when people say they watched Nascar "for the wrecks". Yes, I ...
not to downplay how psychopathic that is, but actually the cars falling apart violently takes kinetic energy away from the driver.
But they always get really bumped around, so while they survive its kinda like the NFL on the brain a bit.
real palm
"With a few quick selections, you'll be on your way to enjoying the full Microso...
"enjoying"
light spruce
Yeah. I know the physics. Safer than getting in a low-speed collision in a road car too.
real palm
I once physically went to a nascar event - it was more about a bunch of people being drunk and throwing their bodies around, and then the cars being loud than it was about driver sportsmanship, etc
light spruce
I went to a few races at Texas Motor Speedway
foggy path
NASCAR is one of those strange american things that is more complex than it looks like
same with american football
if you don't really understand either of them they both look pretty straightforward lol
pearl elk
no theyre just boring to watch 😛
light spruce
Yeah. I'm not a fan of Nascar. But it's definitely difficult and very technical.
pearl elk
I really like watching people take dives in boxing though, such complexity working out who got paid more
foggy path
Yeah I don't find NASCAR that interesting to watch despite understanding the technicalities of it, but it definitely makes it a little bit more interesting lol
pearl elk
maybe if they turned the instagram filter off their sports it would be better lol
light spruce
crazy shit like the asymmetric suspension setup... spring wedges
foggy path
there's a cool tabletop game called Thunder Alley, which is a NASCAR tabletop game
it's actually pretty fun and has some interesting mechanics :)
each player controls several cars and you play cards to do different moves like drafting and such, and when doing things like drafting you don't always get to control who comes along with you
so there's a lot of tactics you can do to try and make sure that if the other players try to do some moves, they'll have to pull your cars with them in the draft too
light spruce
I've played Downforce but not Thunder Alley
foggy path
looks a bit similar, added that to my tabletop sim to try it sometime :)
the mario kart addon for it looks fun
light spruce
I've played some bicycle racing game too
real palm
Not saying it's just "turn left" but most of the fans didn't seem to engage with it beyond that
timber viper
Anyone knows sales ends 23.59 today or tomorrow night?
foggy path
who knows but if you're gonna buy something what difference does it make if you buy it now or tomorrow? :P
light spruce
It takes planning to rob a liquor store
fresh heath
Twitter
foggy path
so he's not ashamed that various US weapon systems surely run on C++? :p
and various machines for persecution
pearl elk
US weapon systems cant penetrate my armour
cursive crypt
I think the topic is different this time, not counting all the bazillion bad karma users
timber viper
who knows but if you're gonna buy something what difference does it make if you ...
Somehow all ATMs are broken in my city
Cant use my money with my card
foggy path
Ah that sucks
I have two credit cards for this reason :P
usually at least one would work lol
light spruce
well this is clearly what bitcoin is for, right?
the blockchain will solve everything
Except for me dropping parts of my sandwich
And Finnish
foggy path
perkele
light spruce
I'm pretty sure that means "badger teeth"
fresh heath
How do I talk myself out of buying an Oculus Quest 2
fresh heath
Yeah, I want VR so badly Facebook no longer holds me back
I found a way to register a new account
light spruce
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7b/d1/95/7bd1956a1cac843d717b600221fb4bf7.jpg Metro would have been a very different series of books and video games with that
median wraith
Well this confirms the fact Discord does an analisis of the images
and gore and blood kinda gets blocked to me here when its rather a skin tone photo
pearl elk
huh, whats explicit?
maybe Doom Eternal is entirely blocked 😛
https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440
woo I found @median wraith on the marketplace
pearl elk
yeah the likeness is uncanny isnt it 😛
median wraith
huh, whats explicit?
Blocked me a person in bikini as explicit
pearl elk
its because youre too hot in a bikini, you gotta tone down that gram man its straight 🔥
median wraith
XD
light spruce
Actually... I didn't realize how much doomguy looked like Donald Trump until that angle
light spruce
Yeah
I honestly thought that's what it was when I first glanced over
My kingdom for a 4mm hex wrench
median wraith
Actually... I didn't realize how much doomguy looked like Donald Trump until tha...
I got bad news for you
Is actually Pedro Sanchez
thats doom guy
light spruce
public virtual uint bulletCount { get; set; } = 1; that is the only c# code I've written today.
I'd say that I'm going to regret this.. but I've already been linked about a thing where a woman claimed to have sex with ghosts
old cobalt
today i found out mixer is made with unity wat
pearl elk
could explain why Epic got Quixel no 😛
old cobalt
maybe they'll reimplement it in the unreal stack
if they replace slate with anything usable
pearl elk
they need slate though, how else they gonna wipe it clean
old cobalt
big uff
pearl elk
they spelt cash handler wrong
solar nebula
Finally all the dots are connecting
Both Unity and UE4 were made in Source Engine
It's Quake all the way down!
light spruce
There was honestly an unnecessary level of effort put into that mod
light spruce
Can someone tell me if I'm about to have a migraine? I'd like to plan my afternoon accordingly.
turbid spindleBOT
@zinc matrix, :8ball: Outlook good.
light spruce
No... no that is not what I would call a good outlook
pearl elk
I keep telling 8ball that Outlook aint that great
shut umbra
how to stream?
light spruce
Step one:
barren grove
the fuck? I have UE4 autosaving every 1 minute... autosaved everything just fine, but one of the blueprints I was creating all day didn't save for some reason
All the references to it from other bps saved just fine
Wtf
Is this normal?
fathom wadi
was it being edited at the time and not compiled?
pearl elk
if autosave takes longer than 1 minute to complete one might assume it'll never finish correctly
fathom wadi
heh yeah good point
barren grove
Maybe, but I had compiled it and run it hundreds of times!
Do I have to manually save everything?
Or was this just a freak accident?
pearl elk
the save button is right next to the compile button
barren grove
Does "always save on compile" work?
because man, i do not want to rely on my memory
pearl elk
we'll you'll have to rely on your memory more if you forget to press save
Im not sure if Id call it a freak accident, most of us would have lost work before
fathom wadi
always save on compile works, but autosave doesn't compile when it saves. So if its in a state where it needs compiling, it will have saved the pre-compiled state instead
pearl elk
is that save on successful compile or just any compile 😛
fathom wadi
good question 😄
pearl elk
either way could be bad, if youre fixing bugs trying to get a BP working you want it to save work, if a compile breaks a BP like a circular reference then you probably dont want a successful compile to save 🙂
I recommend wearing a silver bullet on a chain around your neck
fathom wadi
or a scarf
pearl elk
barren grove
That looks like me atm
pearl elk
the blue gem in your forehead helps with BP?
barren grove
It helps giving UE4 the evil eye
soft night
fathom wadi
no I just showed my wife and a mate on facebook. I still buzz from the fact it's done in Eevee and not cycles. Ridiculously good work.
pearl elk
If this is the pictures I think it is then I think part of the trick is the composition not just the rendering
theyve done a very good job of setting the camera up in a way that a natural still shot would be taken
well some of em are bad lighting but thats why they look natural, its clever composition
youre just used to high quality film 😛
cursive crypt
Ain't megahumans looking like this out of the box?
fathom wadi
@pearl elk it's not the composition. It's running realtime in eevee. The first thing I questioned was the composition but after a lot of people asked, he showed he never used it
fluid bloom
lol
peat producers held a demonstration of sorts in downtown Helsinki https://i.imgur.com/fk609Y1.gif
among the slogans on the trucks they had "peat is renewable" and so on
...yeah, if we're talking with timescales of 10000 years
burning peat produces as much emissions as coke
which is more than coal
tulip orbit
gotta burn something
pearl elk
<@!156366027322687488> it's not the composition. It's running realtime in eevee....
What are you on about, composition isnt a Blender thing its an art thing. You use it every time you create anything, its the arrangement of the whole... yes even in real-time
pearl elk
its amazing how much of a difference being good at it can make, I know a few people who just have the eye and even their worst work looks amazing because of it. Just a matter of knowing how to hide those weaknesses
raven juniper
I'm a total noob brand new to everything. am I in the right place to speak to pros?
ok thanks
fluid bloom
gotta burn something
sure, I'm all for burning wood
but draining and drying bogs so that you can get a shitty source of fuel? No thanks
pearl elk
@median wraith hurrah for CameraManager!
median wraith
what are u doing 👀
pearl elk
being lazy lol
this HUD thingo only takes a Camera Component but my Camera is using CameraManager which isnt a Component
barren grove
I want someone to slap me silly, because I'm making a prototype and I'm beating myself for not thinking of the most efficient programming solution on all my problems, even though I am efficient enough to not have any fps drops and I am not even a programmer
Why do I do that to myself?
Making it work without sucking too much juice is enough. Jesus
pearl elk
you should save all the fps drops for last, its more fun that way
barren grove
Me : "Oh no! I will have to call once a length 10 array to compare 2 values! Jesus christ, I suck at programming! Close shop!"
rocky wharf
mixer is awesome i hope they can continue to improve their features
fathom wadi
What are you on about, composition isnt a Blender thing its an art thing. You us...
in Blender, composition IS a thing. There is a compositor for after effects on your scenes, but it's not realtime. Which is why I said he never composited it because it was Eevee realtime.
@rocky wharf mixer 2021 just got announced so I guess they are improving it 🙂
rocky wharf
i like it that mixer now has an Map_ID set
rocky wharf
mixer how ever is abit different, it reads RGB and replaces mask with a material
so in mixer the ID maps have to be baked
substance painter relies on the shader
fathom wadi
which shader model does substance use?
median wraith
cannot be lower than dx11
fathom wadi
hlsl or glsl based?
i should probably google this. saves time 😄
TFW when you check native/plugin support and don't see the blender icon 😦
light spruce
I'll take Cinema 4D for $400, CGI Alex
median wraith
hlsl or glsl based?
Idk tbh
median wraith
TFW when you check native/plugin support and don't see the blender icon 😦
What plugin?
fathom wadi
substance support for blender
rocky wharf
i don't use modo or even cinema 4D
fathom wadi
being that it usually uses OSL, it might not even be possible to do.
not without a cross compiler
pearl elk
in Blender, composition IS a thing. There is a compositor for after effects on y...
Yeah I wasnt talking about compositing, I was talking about composition 🙂
fathom wadi
ahh. Some others said he was faking it with the compositor so it translated as that 🙂
you could obviously take a second rate model and overlay it with the photo of the person and it would be easy to trick people but he went out of his way to show he didnt do that 🙂
pearl elk
nah its not fake, its just that most of the work is in how the images are presented which makes them look more realistic. Like the selfie style one for eg, its a more natural shot where most renders are kinda static camera more like a professional photoshoot, all sanitised
light spruce
You mean you don't set up your soft boxes and use a ring light for your selfies?
pearl elk
lol nope
light spruce
.. now I feel self-conscious.
I was going to make some hipster joke about how I have to wax the tips of my mustache, and maybe something about a waistcoat, but when I got to the bicycle, my brain puked out "fixed-wing bicycle" and that's where everything broke down.
pearl elk
I just dip myself into a vat of wax but I have a straw with an avacado juice cleanse incase I get thirsty
light spruce
Ice Cube has never been a more appropriate response
But where do you get this vat? I'm asking for a friend.
unborn lotus
ArtStation is joining the Epic Games family. Please agree to the new terms. Nothing much is changing; this just means you are in an agreement with Epic Games Inc. while before you were in an agreement with Ballistiq Digital Inc.
what is this about?
light spruce
It means we're moving closer towards the wondrous future of only having a handful of megacorps
rocky wharf
wait does this mean that we can also access art station from epic games?
cursive crypt
lul
fathom wadi
@unborn lotus it means I get to shamlessly plug my miniscule artstation page 😄 https://www.artstation.com/marcrogerson
cursive crypt
I see you are a certified Blender user.
unborn lotus
<@!378415373470662656> it means I get to shamlessly plug my miniscule artstation...
that makes sense, sharing artstations is on-topic now!
fathom wadi
@cursive crypt I am a fully certified Blender Bender 🙂
I never joke about Bender's shiny metal ass (although I made it with an NPR/freestyle setup that doesn't show in this screenshot)
plucky pagoda
plucky pagoda
TBH, the Microsoft thing is meh. If they did that for console too then I'd be excited. The Artstation thing though, that's big.
deft ingot
Unrelated: It'd be real cool if Unreal didn't use Visual Studio lol
plucky pagoda
It technically doesn't.
Epic uses it internally so most things work with it out of the box but you can use any IDE you want.
Rider has a pretty big following.,
deft ingot
I dunno, I'm mostly salty about Visual Studio bloat. Like, in the installer clicking the boxes for workspaces that my VSC supports it quotes this size:
This is my VSC size
plucky pagoda
lol,
deft ingot
From what I understand, it's .Net bloat
Because of the way they do versioning
Lots of redundant stuff
Microsoft really just needs to scrap it and start over
plucky pagoda
It's 20GB....
deft ingot
Right... And in an editor by the same company with the same functionality it can be 280MB
That's like telling somebody they're only spending $5 when somebody else is spending 25 cents
"It's only $5"
Lol
plucky pagoda
Except they aren't really equivalent though
regal pecan
Except they aren't really equivalent though
You're right, it's more like 7 cents.
plucky pagoda
I'm not a fan of VS but it tends to work without much hassle with UE projects.
plucky pagoda
You're right, it's more like 7 cents.
They are not equivalent IDEs
deft ingot
I just don't see a reason for an editor, or even an IDE to be 20GB in size.
What does it do that requires 20GB?
(And from what I understand, it doesn't need to be 20GB and this is a versioning problem)
Like they build every binary for the .Net stuff each time
fathom wadi
you are talking about a multi-purpose editor that supports many languages with tools for what you need if you are multi-discipline. However speaking about VS like it's bloat and using Unreal Engine is the pot calling the kettle black. UE is bloated like a mofo.
plucky pagoda
It could be 20GB of cat memes. If 20GB is an issue then it's time to get more storage space.
deft ingot
Again, that's a bad argument lol. You can't defend something being bad with "I have room for it to be bad"
plucky pagoda
In fact, I'm upset that there isn't at least a gig or two of cat memes with VS. I feel cheated.
deft ingot
I have terabytes of space. I don't want 20GB of it to be my code editor.
plucky pagoda
Ok, notepad works
fathom wadi
its not a code editor you spadge. It's a full compiler for several languages, including debuggers and other tools.
deft ingot
So is VS code when you set it up right, and it isn't 20GB
fathom wadi
no. it's not bad for some code, and as a text editor, but I wouldn't use Code for Unreal development. I'd be lacking tools
foggy path
I'm not sure if it's an entirely fair comparison to do VS vs VSC for a multitude of reasons
fathom wadi
^^
deft ingot
🤔
proud pier
https://magazine.artstation.com/2021/04/artstation-is-joining-the-epic-games-fam...
Interesting acquisition
warm robin
Finally :
light spruce
well that was one of the dumber discussions I've read
basically, you should just use vim and a bunch of bash scripts
wait, vim might be too bloated. Should probably just use vi
deft ingot
Any time I have to work in the terminal I use VIM, except for when I'm using the VSC terminal, then I just use VSC of course.
cursive crypt
Upping the game. Anytime, I need text editor, I use Vim. Exceptions are IDE projects like MSVC.
Tho, I have Vim binding active 😉
deft ingot
I tried the VSC "Vimulators" but they were generally a little buggy and ended up annoying me more than not.
That was a while ago though, they may have gotten better
cursive crypt
Yeah, not perfect. However, I'm not touching the arrow keys for any reason.
deft ingot
Lol
I have a 60% keyboard, so I have no arrow keys.
I hold what would normally be the capslock key to turn my IJKL into arrows
cursive crypt
That smells emacs to me, lol
light spruce
I use arrows too often to use a 60%
fathom wadi
visual code + 60% keyboard for development. It's like you are nerfing yourself 😄
deft ingot
I mean, I prefer my editor stay out of my way and I don't like reaching a cross a large keyboard
Lol
fathom wadi
I need that keypad thanks to Blender and the other 3d apps. I once went several years without a middle mouse button though, which truly sucked for 3d dev work 😄
deft ingot
Ohno
I think you can rebind any key as anything on this keyboard, but you can't get the perfect grid layout that a numpad has lol
deft ingot
That smells emacs to me, lol
Just the layout the keyboard gave for the arrows, I was too lazy to change it lol
cursive crypt
Saying middle mouse button, that's the most inconvenient button which some app devs thing is good idea to press non-stop.
In Blender it is the default for translating the viewport?
I always remap it to button 4 or something.
deft ingot
Yeah I don't remember the last time I used the middle mouse button lol
I use my side buttons constantly
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix yeah when I last used Maya I wrote a melscript to use those instead