lounge

[normal prism]

Craftsmen

[fringe sundial]

for example, in their factory objects, they only work when they are active

inactive placed factory objects have 0 cpu overhead

[red pewter]

so data oriented all the way down?

[fringe sundial]

the game keeps track of which factories are actually active, and ticks them

and ticking a factory is the same for all types of factories, and its just a "craftTime += deltaTime * craftSpeed"type operation

which it has in an array so it goes fast, no virtuals

similar happens to inserters. If you have a inserter that takes object from a building and puts it on a chest, this inserter has 0 cpu overhead

it does absolutely nothing

until the building finishes its craft

and then signals the inserters that are pointing into that building that they can grab it now

then a inserter ticks while it moves the item from building to chest

and once done it goes back to inactive

they do this sort of active-inactive thing constantly for every object in the game. And the actual update logic of each object is done in-masse and on optimized memory

[normal prism]

Glorious

[fringe sundial]

factorio is so fast that its bottlenecked by raw memory bandwidth

if you get faster ram factorio goes faster

[normal prism]

I get a kick out of elegant systems like that, kudos to the programmers.

[fringe sundial]

its just the only way factorio can do the stuff it can

with completely insane absolutely huge factories

[normal prism]

Certainly, but being able to hit that target and create a system like that is marvellous in its own right. Even if it's forced by necessity, I bet there's tons of people that tried similar things but didn't get that far.

[fringe sundial]

because factorio programmers know exactly waht they are doing

they dont even try to use ECS or similar, each of the game systems is handled individually in the way its most optimal for the task

honestly the entire tech of factorio is just way above anything in the industry. They do everything perfect, its insane

you can see it in the blogs

[red pewter]

join us... https://www.dataorienteddesign.com/dodbook/

[fringe sundial]

when they develop new code they have fully automated tests that run multithread and headless at crazy speed to check that they didnt break stuff

[red pewter]

I am reminded most of the "Existential Processing" section

[fringe sundial]

yup, thats indeed it

factorio really is a perfect example of the principles outlined in the book

you can see it very clearly if you look at the blogs

and if that wasnt enough the entire thing works multithreaded through lockstep

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-333\

in this blogpost they literally took a classic SNES and Gameboy trick to optimize the rendering of the terrain

[red pewter]

remove the end slash to make the link work

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-333

[fringe sundial]

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-317 this is also impressive

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-302 or optimizing factorio for MMO tier servers with hundreds of players

[median wraith]

Mindustry: Underrated game

[red pewter]

it's good but doesn't replace pure cocaine (Factorio)

Factory town is alright too

[cursive crypt]

@fringe sundial does that blueprint -> assembly effort has ceased? Kinda interested, its close to what I have did for years.

[fringe sundial]

it was on the trello for ages and eventually got removed

so who knows

[solid aurora]

you will see in about 4 months

all I know UE5 is heavly focused on simulation on planetary scales

[cursive crypt]

The new script thingie? Ah, you talk for else.

[red pewter]

Star Citizen moving engines a second time let's gooo (joking)

[median wraith]

Finally can make Arma 4

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/f00n/status/1339913336213921792?s=20 😄

Marc Rogerson (@f00n)

Always nice to see another intermediate language we don't need to use. If it helps people access programming within the engine then let it be. But if I ever use this over C++, revoke my root privileges and send me to the garbage collector. https://t.co/oSpjZxdPQv

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

[median wraith]

That scripting reminds me of IW engine scripting

AKA CODs scripting

[fathom wadi]

It reminds me of why I stopped using scripting languages when I can avoid it.

[fringe sundial]

the thing is that Cpp sucks

new languages are needed

but we are at a time where the old generation shitscript langs are no more

we know more than tat

and LLVM is a thing, and it makes it trivial to create your own language that runs like Cpp does

[fathom wadi]

Im probably being an old fart in that respect, but I am thinking down the line when the shit hits the fan. If this integrates with C++ types in a way that is not obfuscated by type handling and conversion, then it won't be a bad thing. But oof. Get it wrong and you have a shitty language embed in your engine.

[fringe sundial]

thats indeed a problem

these days, creating a cpp style lang is easy

fking hell there is even a tutorial on how to do it that almost anyone can follow

the script languages of years past are incredibly stupid looking at them now, with their high level dynamicness and their VMs

[fathom wadi]

heh yeah

I still have abit of love for PHP but I know people who hate it

I try not to get bogged down with it as long as it works 😄

[fringe sundial]

anyone who codes cpp in unreal knows that it absolutely sucks

you can compare it with C# in unity

to see what a much better workflow looks like

and at the end it isnt even that fast because it bottlenecks on unreal engine Actor architecture

[lucid walrus]

@red pewter link? Are they moving away from Lumberyard?

[red pewter]

I was joking, sorry

I will edit to reflect that

[fathom wadi]

I've often wondered if the engine would use a refactor away from the strict OOP hierarchy of the current system. I mean, I know it can because you can just start at any point in the tree, but often core systems are hooked into those being how they are and require at least some Object relation. But what if it was all unhooked a modular to the point that the interfacing was doing everything for everything? Would that be slower? Faster? Easier to manage or just plain hell?

[normal prism]

Amen

[solid aurora]

as always

[normal prism]

Makes me sad the C# plugin didn't go anywhere

[solid aurora]

it depends

low level system are already pretty much like this

[lucid walrus]

@red pewter sorry... I was just glancing at the conversation and nearly did a spit take 🙂

[solid aurora]

the editor is heavly based around UObject

but you can see new editor systems use UObject as sync point and nothing more

[fathom wadi]

yeah I tend to do that when I make simple objects to extend. I pretty much don't even think about extending anything else.

[solid aurora]

for gameplay the low hanging fruit is GameFramework

[median wraith]

Programming languages still need better ides

[solid aurora]

it was designed 20 years ago

is moving it to plugin possible ?

Entirely

will it happen

probabaly

[fathom wadi]

I guess we are all fishing in an empty bowl for now though until UE5 comes out. Eager to see all the core changes.

[solid aurora]

well pretty much, the information is scarce

the good news is, it's not that long before we get it

[fathom wadi]

That's gonna be the happiest day of the last 8 years for me 😄

[median wraith]

People says things in team works better than do something alone.
When 100 individuals request changes maybe is time to listen them after 10 years or so

[fathom wadi]

heh it's a double edged sword for sure.

As long as there is a "boss" who can decide the ultimate fate, and they are not incompetant, all should be well.

[median wraith]

My bet is the file I sent a PR back in 2015 will be the same post UE5 launch

And they could still claim the file is about update

[fathom wadi]

I was gonna make my first PR until I heard about UE5. Then it felt a little pointless. Not sure why I haven't made more PR subs over the years except that I trust Epic did it right first time :p

[red pewter]

UE5 seems more like UE4.30 than a complete replacement

[fathom wadi]

it is a next gen for sure. UE4 systems will still be in place and some similaries will occur

[deep glen]

they replaced the way the rendering works, just because the editor looks the same doesnt mean that what goes on under the hood is the same

[fathom wadi]

I asked Tim how we would upgrade old project and he said it will be fairly painless.

[normal prism]

he said it will be fairly painless.
C++ & Plugins included?

[fathom wadi]

that would be subjective but yeah. It might only need a little refactoring

[carmine frigate]

i think the rendering still works by combining render targets

[fathom wadi]

Often we get core systems via the interfacing, so it would remain the same technically

[carmine frigate]

the same but shortcut

[red pewter]

One personal hope: fancier UI

[fringe sundial]

the UI is fine

the issue is that its flat

needs a 3rd dimension

so that you can create 3d uis with UMG

[red pewter]

I actually love the current UI but it's a little too bright still

[normal prism]

Now that we have this, I'm all good:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/darker-nodes

[red pewter]

Huh?!

Getting this now

[normal prism]

:D:DD

@tawdry rune for president

[tawdry rune]

Ahahah, glad you like it that much 😂

[normal prism]

Honestly, having an inviting UI goes a long way towards enjoyment of your day to day work

You have awesome plugins to help with that

Makes a big difference

[red pewter]

Some people hate the UI totally and I can't get it

[normal prism]

Stock UI? It's attrocious

[red pewter]

Like at worst it's not totally space effecient?

Spacing/shape wise I suppose

[normal prism]

It's just super noisy

[red pewter]

It's a little old fashioned in a nice way

[tawdry rune]

Well it's a bit outdated compared to modern design standard: every element is asking for attention and that makes it a bit difficult to read at

(in my opinion)

like the 3d icons, the gloss on the blueprint notes, the variation of white on black text next to black on white text

[normal prism]

Exactly

It's funny though

How diverging opinions on the UI are. I had shown others various skins, and some people couldn't even tell the difference.

Even though it all jumped out hugely to myself

Seems like it depends on the person 😄

[tawdry rune]

I think that people get used to the default theme, though I'd like to have @red pewter feedback on the difference between default theme and darker nodes theme

Do you think it improved the readability?

can you identify what makes it better according to you?

(I know it's a tricky exercice 😅... the "feeling" has a lot to do in it)

[red pewter]

I personally like the gradient on the nodes vs the flat colour

[zinc matrix]

verse looks like a modding oriented language from the 4 slides they showed

I get the feeling it is supposed to be super high level

[tawdry rune]

What about keeping the blueprint gloss?

[red pewter]

Better!

[tawdry rune]

Well, in any case, I like to let people customize the theme as they want, so you can disable the blueprint theming (just like the last screen).
But I'm always searching for ways to improve it so if you have any idea, feel free to drop me a suggestion 🙂

[median wraith]

Godot dev made a post

well technically is true

the UE4 new script looks like Godot one LOL

and tbh I didn't liked it at all

[normal prism]

The "new UE4 script"?

[median wraith]

the new scripting language

[red pewter]

It's called Verse

they showed it off in a livestream earlier today on twitch

python-esque synax with latent actions that can wait for conditions

[normal prism]

Hmmm

[median wraith]

so Godot Scripting

https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/1339921840282738688

Juan Linietsky (@reduzio)

Glad that @godotengine became proof that a domain specific language is a very viable choice when it solves problems that other languages are not designed to (and aids the overall user experience with tight integration), making the engine more approachable to most newcomers. https://t.co/gGydbfPl7F

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

the other day didn't took in on my mind but is kinda equal

[normal prism]

My biggest gripe with GDScript was its inflexibility and lack of power

But in terms of syntax, was fine

[median wraith]

I didn't liked the syntax

[red pewter]

what could it not do?

[normal prism]

I can't remember too many good examples, it's been a while. But for instance, I felt a lack of tooling around arrays in the form of equivalent methods to map/reduce/filter, etc. Granted, I'm not sure this is something that C++ does any better, but it was a lack for myself coming other languages.

In general it just felt cumbersome

C# also goes out of its way to give you tons of sugar and make your job easier, whereas GDScript is just "simple". Nothing bad, but you had to do things in cumbersome ways often.

[median wraith]

Godot one is super slow overall

[fathom wadi]

I love that description. It sounds older than God 😄

[red pewter]

if it runs anywhere near as fast as c++ and compiles fast I'm never looking at a header file again

[median wraith]

https://github.com/Hevedy/GodotHeXperiment/blob/master/Scripts/LODManager_GD.gd

[normal prism]

Same

[median wraith]

was kinda sad to me

[fathom wadi]

I must say I wouldn't miss circular dependency making my life hell, but forward referencing has kept that to a minimum.

[red pewter]

Or 30second compiles on my 7700k 🙃

[fathom wadi]

entire engine build aside, I compile fairly quick on a 4790k still

[median wraith]

were combining some plugins before

[fathom wadi]

im still on 45m+ for full engine tho

[median wraith]

best part is when you include windows headers with UE

🤖

[fathom wadi]

I've done that before. Im pretty sure Windows.h has some included too

[red pewter]

45m for a full engine build? I must be missing some setting because I'm waiting like literally 2 hours for a full engine build

[median wraith]

need to include dedicated UE4 headers to don't fu the compilation

I have to wait like that about 1:30 to 2h

[fathom wadi]

I run it on an SSD, 32gb ram, clean system because I don't do much except game/work/tweet. That would be a development build. It might take longer on a debug build

[median wraith]

with plugins included

[fathom wadi]

I always let the intellisense settle on the solution too before I build. I find that can slow it down if it's still building a db

[humble remnant]

What the

[fathom wadi]

I know right?

[normal prism]

Yep

[red pewter]

I wonder if they are buddying up because of the appstore shenanigans

[normal prism]

Granted, your CPU is a bit older

[median wraith]

Tim made a tweet and all about that

[red pewter]

But a bit better than Marc's and his takes seemingly less time 😭

[fathom wadi]

I can't see how that is more convenient for anyone at all. If you are counting in Access Clicks + Time To Load, I'm right in with a single bookmark already.

[red pewter]

Does Spotify even do anything special with EGS games?

[fathom wadi]

See thats a thought. With the integration tools, there is no reason you can't have apps on the store interacting with games I guess. I pretty much haven't thought about that since they announced it.

[median wraith]

what you mean ?

[fathom wadi]

in-game API to access the app in game would be cool

[median wraith]

is the main door to sell software other than games thats all

[fathom wadi]

The new Discord bot slash commands are interesting in that respect also.

[median wraith]

I spend 1 year making the music app, that interacts with Discord and Steam

now they release that and i jump from a bridge

thank you

🤖

[fathom wadi]

It's ok Hev. Been there a couple of times. Move on, use the anger as energy for the next thing 😄

[tawdry rune]

That would be awesome to play any music you want in your game from spotify!

[red pewter]

like I need you nerds seeing the embarrassing JRPG music I'm listening to!

[median wraith]

so Spotify works as individual app or Epic load it in the incluided browser ?

[red pewter]

I bet it's just the app

[fathom wadi]

well im guessing it opens the app or redirects to the web player as the Spotify domain does

[median wraith]

well Steam have a music player included

[red pewter]

just opens and starts playing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU7d_XzQa4

[median wraith]

but you can't send your music

you don't even own anything from spotify

[red pewter]

RIP google play music

[median wraith]

this was a good experience

[red pewter]

google play books just lets you download an .epuc of your stuff too. Neat!

[median wraith]

in 2012 individual music artist used to send me DM asking to make the music for my game
in 2020 i sent email to indie music creators and nobody reply me

and another fact is, nobody this days have music in the computer

[red pewter]

Really? Are there fewer wannabe music producers trying to get into games?

I swear /r/gamedev is 50% "please download my sound effects"

[median wraith]

I requested/asked about licenses and nobody reply my emails

other than one at Twitter

[fathom wadi]

They probably just stole your idea

[median wraith]

started claiming he does the music for the paris fasion week etc

Okay bye

[median wraith]

nobody is as crazy as me thankfully

[fathom wadi]

I'd love to write music for Paris fashion week. I'd entertain everyone with my songs such as "Who would wear this?" and "Pretentious are the many"

[median wraith]

I even asked indie radios etc if could include their radio in the game/sandbox tool

and they didn't reply aswell

[median wraith]

XD

[fathom wadi]

speaking of music. Shameless plug for my friend's album. https://open.spotify.com/track/5mH4kdzzD91paqwH4ROpAv

[red pewter]

excuse me, I have to start the epic game store to listen to this track

[fathom wadi]

In b4 a new egs:// link option

[median wraith]

@zinc matrix
the exception that confirms the rule

https://tenor.com/view/point-pointing-thats-right-yes-you-got-it-gif-10406481

fak

I got a group of friends in a basement hidden

trying my steam builds

there is no crunch if you don't pay no one

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

all this is a jk

I don't even got friends

🤖

that's a jk too

[fathom wadi]

heh when you have to add "all this is a jk".....

[cursive crypt]

You guys have friends?

[median wraith]

yeah a couple lets say

XD

[fathom wadi]

I have smalltalk with a procurer of the finest herbal goods if that counts.

[cursive crypt]

That's a good start Marc, sometimes you don't need more than that.

[median wraith]

HERBAL GOODS YE

I got people that reminds of me when see some post of me

what an awesome people

🤫

[cursive crypt]

Discord remembers...

[median wraith]

na, people I got in the phone

well you got family members too that just remember the day you born

lol

[cursive crypt]

Yes, that's cool 👍

[median wraith]

well not sure how cool is that

[cursive crypt]

huh? It's cool to have family.

[median wraith]

I mean the people that just come one day per year to say a single sentence in whatsapp

you're less noticed than the pill

[fathom wadi]

I joke about the lack of friends but I built friendships with people online. Even those I haven't met I do consider friends. I don't need to physically socialise to be a friend. I'm not even a fan of the usual social habits like drinking or eating at restaurants. But ask me to buddy up for some arena and I'm in.

[median wraith]

my two best friends are two individuals I meet online 12-14 years ago

[cursive crypt]

You were in the same city?

[median wraith]

not in my case

still got pending to pay them a visit

wanted to do it this year but well you know lol

can't even leave my house

if you touch the street past the 22pm you get 5 stars

@zinc matrix 😂

I had to give the thanks to my ex boss that didn't allow me to go the last gaming event the last year

🤖

[humble remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777453464242356285/789491210066329651/EpfNRjrVgAIJLOD.png

[fathom wadi]

I use the Queen's English. I tried to use my own but it comes with too many F's and C's. Naaah who am I kidding, F's and C's for life !

[median wraith]

isn't the first and last one literally the same ?

[cursive crypt]

lol, I guess there are some nuances

[fathom wadi]

it's funny how we have an agreed book of words that exist within a language and some corporations try to stop you using them.

[median wraith]

wait back 4 blood cost the same of cod

simp apply to this people ?

on instagram

imagine to be a father with a photo of you and your kid in the profile and put these comments on every person you find

[cursive crypt]

I think some sort of "giving" must be present so a person is considered a simp.

Dunno, really 🤔

[fathom wadi]

I am lucky that I am of the age where I hear a new word to put someone down, like simp or gammon or similar, and it takes me 6 months to catch on to what it means. By which time, new words have appeared. So I just forget about it for another 6 months and carry on 😄

[median wraith]

we got a word for these people but not sure if is the described one there

[fathom wadi]

People calling me boomer for months was funny, because I had no idea what it meant.

and Im Gen X apparently 😄

[mossy nexus]

What's weird to me is that if you look in a dictionary to see how to pronounce something, they use weird characters and stuff eg : kʌp, maʊθ, ɒnᵻst. Like WTF its another language you have to learn to be able to speak in the one you already know 😄

[median wraith]

I'm generation Y @fathom wadi we only need one Z one to be 3D

[cursive crypt]

There is Z

[median wraith]

here is the Z

[fathom wadi]

phonetics are usually there with latin and/or greek based on origin and the validity of the dictionary you used. They never use accents though. Like no consideration.

[mossy nexus]

naa Pythagoras Theorem can work out the Z

[median wraith]

after it comes the Alphas I think

if you have a child now you can have an alpha @fathom wadi

technically should be time for me to have an alpha but

[cursive crypt]

There we go, the almanac of generations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z#/media/File:Generation_timeline.svg

[fathom wadi]

I have 5 of my own and raise two of my wife's

[mossy nexus]

Surely the child would be X.01

[median wraith]

so my son will be bright ?

I expect it comes more bright than me

[red pewter]

We need another term for Gen Alpha fast because trying to make fun of someone and calling them an Alpha seems counterintuitive

[mossy nexus]

Gen Zero

[cursive crypt]

I think the next are Betas (lmao)

So they gonna joke with them like "Are you a Beta male?"

[median wraith]

Don't worry guys

the millennial we don't even have couple, so there won't be more gens

🤖

[fathom wadi]

Naah as someone pointed out quite nicely on social media, after the pandemic in 1918, the Roaring Twenties happened. So the next 10 years might be one long party.

all dressed in cosplay 😄

[median wraith]

#spaniards is trending at Twitter, is one of these weeks where the whole fault of the world current state is all from us

[fresh heath]

Call them Generation Aleph, then the next one Bet, then Gimel...

[median wraith]

the wat lol

@fathom wadi I just saw the 2020 stats

We made it another time in the top ten word stats

the num 9 country with less borns

[fathom wadi]

Probably because you miss out on the mid-day sex we often get in cold countries 😄

[median wraith]

ahhahah

fun fact

from these borns 3/4 aren't spanish people

na man here everyone is single is the new trending, boomer @fathom wadi

🤖 🤪

seems like the people have kids with at their 40 years old

[fathom wadi]

well it makes sense to get grounded first. I wasn't ready for my first at all but I was in my 20's and still learning my trade.

[median wraith]

someone predicted a boom at borns because the virus, but tbh the only boom were the divorces

[fathom wadi]

yeah its a new world in terms of how you go about your "outside business".

Imagine the hit it's had on the sex trade on the streets. Must feel like more of a mine field than ever

Less people hanging out at the roundabouts I bet

[median wraith]

are you in lockdown this days there ?

[fathom wadi]

yeah have been in lockdown since March. But officially for 2 months

[nova finch]

Gen 🍕

[median wraith]

@nova finch BUT THE KEY QUESTION

with pineapple ?

[nova finch]

[median wraith]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[mossy nexus]

What's wrong with pineapple on pizza?

[nova finch]

People either love it or hate it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median wraith]

idk man

I just ate one in my life with pineapple

is the fact there is something juicy that ruins the whole thing

its like make a burger with asparagus

but the wet ones

isn't bad but isnt a good idea

[carmine frigate]

soggy

even the word is nasty

[fathom wadi]

I eat burgers with pineapple. Helps digest it

[carmine frigate]

also i hate those factory bread like things

[normal prism]

https://twitter.com/marekkraft/status/1339937917888819200/photo/1

Marek Kraft (@marekkraft)

That's a really hot take 🙃

Twitter · Nov 4, 2010, 1:42 AM

[median wraith]

How dare you sir

[median wraith]

Lol

[carmine frigate]

console peeps never heared about PC

you know there is this other platform aswell

[zinc matrix]

Hello. I just joined because I'm stuck in creating a game and wanted some possible help. Is there a specific spot where I post about help?

[carmine frigate]

depends on where u are stuck

[zinc matrix]

Replication over multiplayer through BP interface

[carmine frigate]

#multiplayer

[zinc matrix]

Thank u

[carmine frigate]

np

[cursive crypt]

Next year?

[mossy nexus]

They were meant to make an appearance in 4.26, allegedly

[zinc matrix]

fingers crossed for 4.27

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/McFunkypants/status/1339970154382278658

Christer McFunkypants Kaitila (@McFunkypants)

lol my dog is teaching me about bones

so far this is 0% as cute as I hoped teehee =)

#gamedev https://t.co/L8JhPx7RbO

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

[humble remnant]

It's a skeleton with a texture

[median wraith]

man, never ever will do another tool

just flash quality games

these are the good indies

[median wraith]

"new"

released 6 years ago

you're getting old accept it @zinc matrix

😂 😜

[fresh heath]

https://computerhistory.org/blog/introducing-the-smalltalk-zoo-48-years-of-smalltalk-history-at-chm/

That's where the object-oriented programming came from, along with Simula

[cursive crypt]

Has it been 40? 😬

[median wraith]

Question:

Someone can list a couple of terror games that don't have realistic graphics ?

Bendy and the Ink Machine don't count

[fresh heath]

Yume Nikki

[median wraith]

oh that's 2d

let me check

steam is working pretty bad for me

[cursive crypt]

Terror? What kind of terror? Playing the old xcom on highest difficulty was really a terror.

[median wraith]

lol

[cursive crypt]

Horror maybe you mean?

[median wraith]

dammit steam

[cursive crypt]

lol, yea, I remember that effect.

[fresh heath]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/650700/Yume_Nikki/

Steam

Yume Nikki

An RPG Maker tour de force, and a divisively controversial work for fans.You are free to explore the various dream worlds at your own pace.If you check certain characters or items in the game you will collect an “Effect”. These “Effects” can be used to change the main character’s appearance.Some of these “Effects” have special actions or animati...

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[median wraith]

can't see them is basically down here the image server

😂

[cursive crypt]

That's your terror! Just audio.

[carmine frigate]

that image compression

agressive compression

[cursive crypt]

New game genre, browsing steam w/o being able to read anything. Seeing sales 🤔

[fresh heath]

Probably some Akamai issue

[median wraith]

yeah

got video kids

[fresh heath]

There is a trailer on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARpewy9gvus

It doesn't really convey the experience

[median wraith]

the question is

can be a non realistic game in 3D plausible for jump scares ?

[fresh heath]

Yeah

Jump scares don't need to be realistic

[carmine frigate]

five nights?

that non realistic 3d

[median wraith]

well

[carmine frigate]

you could just pop up the default blender cube and play some scream sound

[median wraith]

lol

[carmine frigate]

cuz thats what a jump scare is

something poppin in and loud noise

[fresh heath]

Jump scares are cheap

It's better to unnerve the player in a more subtle manner

[median wraith]

tell me more

[fresh heath]

Well, what horror games have you played?

[median wraith]

A big range of random things

Amnesia

Outlast

many strange things from itch

and tbh a lot but can't say a name right now

are out of my head

[fresh heath]

Have you played Silent Hill 2?

[carmine frigate]

@median wraith did u play I am Boris?

its not scary but it is unnervin

[median wraith]

yeah played it for a bit

[carmine frigate]

😛

[median wraith]

well no, the resident evil ones

so you both are talking about the soft horror lets say

non direct attack to the player integrity

but slowly the sanity

[fresh heath]

Yeah

[carmine frigate]

yea

[median wraith]

if you take lets say

the fredy games

they do that all the time plus the jumpscares

for what you would replace the jumpscares in that example

[fresh heath]

Let the player fight some kind of enemy, replace jumpscares with tense combat challenges

So some monster doesn't jump on your face but he is there and you have to deal with him somehow

Either sneak around him or hit him with a wrench

This will allow the player to release tension that you build with the subtle things in a more fun manner that jumping in a chair

You impale him with a magic sword that makes him immobile

A sword that traps ghosts

If you still want to do jump scares, do them like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXcajQnasc

Break the 4th wall

[median wraith]

lets see

[primal spoke]

Does UE Blueprints have a logo like C++ or any other programming language?

[median wraith]

yeah

🍝

[primal spoke]

oh thats good

but seriously every other programming language has one, where is the Blueprint logo?

[median wraith]

nope that I know

[carmine frigate]

its not accepted by real programmers 😛

they look down on us 😛

[primal spoke]

I guess BP is the closest to a logo.

[carmine frigate]

mayB kismet had a logo?

[primal spoke]

a quick search doesn't reveal any results.

its surprising tbh.

seems like a missed branding opportunity.

[median wraith]

@fresh heath worst scary jumps came from itch games I have to say

there is a group of kids that do absurd scary games

[primal spoke]

and its much easier to just use an image instead of writing out Blueprints everywhere.

[carmine frigate]

i played some itch pixel game it was really good, but 4got the name

[median wraith]

https://puppetcombo.itch.io/nun-massacre

these ones

[carmine frigate]

nah it was commodore 64 pixel

surprizing cuz i would basically never look at one of those

[carmine frigate]

i say cyberpunk was cooler in the 90s becouse computers were just bigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwPNroYv1U

[mossy nexus]

Holy Hells Bells... some dude made 3.5 million dollars selling digital art at an auction https://cryptobriefing.com/digital-art-auction-raises-record-million/

[carmine frigate]

that TV color circle is that thing universial?

havent seen it in a while

[mossy nexus]

Much awesomenessessesssess https://twitter.com/HoussineMehnik/status/1340018647989936129

Elhoussine Mehnik (@HoussineMehnik)

[WIP] Upcoming BluEdMode tool example : Procedural Mesh painting tool :)
#UE4 #UnrealEngine4 #gamedev https://t.co/e3WqdtvyZc

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Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 7:38 PM

More awesomenessesessss https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/work-in-progress/1844533-sprout-foliage-creation-in-ue4

[median wraith]

@carmine frigate got something for you lol https://store.steampowered.com/app/670750/0N_0W/?curator_clanid=33026434

Steam

0°N 0°W

A cross country road trip strands you in a mysterious town lost amidst towering mesas and swaying dunes, will you beckon the glowing call of its lone storefront and embark on a fantastical multidimensional walkabout through space and time?0°N 0°W is a peaceful first person exploration game. There's nothing to fight or be scared of, just a wild d...

Price

$10.99

Recommendations

168

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[carmine frigate]

not sure i can take that

the name is really cool tho

they nailed the name

[cursive crypt]

@carmine frigate that circle is a test pattern. There are variations of it around the world.

[mossy nexus]

Naa... I've looked up in the sky and I can't see it.. 😄

[cursive crypt]

Need to plug harder that i/o cable in your head, lol

Kinda miss that, I haven't seen it in the modern era.

4k @ 60 hz?

calc.exe

~180 MiB is 1 second.

Oh, wait 1080 is hmm how much on 1080?

I put 720p lol

... so 1080p is ~480 MiB - small mistake 😄

Hence your 5+ G is exact

[carmine frigate]

what file are you outputting?

[cursive crypt]

That's container, not encoder

[mossy nexus]

Handbrake == good at file compression. DaVinci Resolve == decent at editing. Openshot == good at features 🙂

[carmine frigate]

think i got decent file sizes out of seq

[neon crystal]

Does anyone know how i can make sections loop in a montage?

[cursive crypt]

ffmpeg to rule them all :💪

[mossy nexus]

Try #animation @neon crystal

[mossy nexus]

meh 😄

[cursive crypt]

lol

[neon crystal]

ye no-one answered

prob won't will

[cursive crypt]

Luck 🤷‍♂️ we are just a bunch of slackers here

[neon crystal]

yep

just different versions

otherwise i wasnt stuck

[mossy nexus]

cross posting isn't allowed though my dude. Tis not the done thing 😄

[cursive crypt]

@zinc matrix maybe try 24 fps lol?

tc tc tc

Your mind will interpolate, put that built-in raytracing gpu to work

[mossy nexus]

24fps for that realistic "just good enough" feel

[cursive crypt]

It's called Cinematic

Or was... dunno what is the standard nowadays 🤔
Haven't been to cinema soon.

[fluid bloom]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1H7lov9FjKOViDjhs4AHge

here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyWN9ba9J8

[cursive crypt]

damn... that clip has escalated the past few weeks.

Next, white troopers from Star wars.

[carmine frigate]

yea just make up ur own imaginary workflow

sounds good

ill say yes with the idea u can do everything in blender

wait lemme check one of my seq outputs

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1339852857617633280?s=19

Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX)

https://t.co/ep2j6IR0P2

Retweets

570

Likes

3422

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

Farewell corvo

[carmine frigate]

1.5g for 30 min 1080 30 fps

got some others but i have to DL to actually check stats so i wont

[fluid bloom]

buy the dip

[fresh heath]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/microsoft-msft-is-designing-its-own-chips-in-move-away-from-intel-intc

[normal prism]

RIP Intel

[fresh heath]

Intel Outside\™️

[soft night]

rip amd

[supple ivy]

<@&213101288538374145> who can live stream in this discord channel? And how to acquire such privilege?

I only saw one guy slive streaming tbh, @forest sparrow

[forest sparrow]

@supple ivy We currently do not allow streaming. Only moderators at this time can stream.

[supple ivy]

Such a handicap, why it was enforced?

[forest sparrow]

We are still figuring out the most efficient and safest way to implement streaming for members.

[supple ivy]

Idk privilege for long term members of the chat? And potential risk of loosing it?

[forest sparrow]

Misbehavior unfortunately. We do have some good ideas going around. The idea revolves around allowing users who are well behaved and have been actively apart of the voice channel to be able to stream.

This is just one of our alleged ideas.

Currently you can work around this by streaming from twitch and sharing your link.

[tulip orbit]

etransferring the mods cash probably wouldnt hurt for getting you permission either. 😉

[supple ivy]

Oh I understand, ust trying to understand your thinking, so we can bypass it, and profit the community in the long run 🙂 Thx for answers 🙂

[forest sparrow]

Yeah. So for right now your best bet is to stream via Twitch and share a link until we implement the streaming role

[supple ivy]

Will definetely wait for your decision 🙂

[forest sparrow]

Thanks for understanding. Always feel free to leave feedback in #server-feedback

[supple ivy]

And, there is something i will pm you about

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/szeloof/status/1340060768113405954

Sam Zeloof (@szeloof)

want to support DIY semiconductor fab efforts? I’m selling a homemade chip from the first batch. I gave a few to close friends & family, you will have 1 of <10 out there. Lots of tools and parts to buy, your money will be well spent!! https://t.co/4lPLedpPA4

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

[cursive crypt]

Hobbies : shrug
I would go at best with fpga

[carmine frigate]

if only i remeber what fpga stands for i would be old and wize

now im just old 😛

[mossy nexus]

field-programmable gate array ?

[carmine frigate]

looked it up..

damn i had a field programmable gate array in my old pc?

i should have done more with that

[mossy nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cave-dive-darkness-leap-gif-5803442

Should have some videos coming up after the weekend, and all being well submitting next week 🙂

[normal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-approves-pedrorc-pedroredcerberus-yes-agree-gif-11599348

[cursive crypt]

Hey, fpga are quite used even nowadays. In certain domains :)

[carmine frigate]

yea i never done chip programming tho

some electronics tho

in the ends its kind of the same

gate open gate closed 😛

i just use my finger to open and close the gate 😛

[mossy nexus]

Seeing the CAVES one had me genuinely laugh out loud. Cheers for that 😄

[carmine frigate]

dump voltage in capacitor

[mossy nexus]

Reminds me of years n years ago in the Frontier forums talking about Elite Dangerous, and some dude was always going on about "When will there be an Xbox version" and he was always met with scorn and the like. Then after about 2 years Frontier announced the Xbox version being made and the only post he said on that discussion was "Hello" 😄

[carmine frigate]

that ass is in dcc pre bake, they wil take a lot of poly out of that ass

if u look at the rest of the model its lower poly, they bring in the ass sculpter just for that

topo looks cleaner if u show the low poly sub surfaced

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-funny-animals-insomnia-cat-tired-crazy-cute-gif-11458685

lockdown mode, my hair does look like that

[median wraith]

That looks fake subd

Oh well

I love how that guy from the market make awesome characters with so low poly meshes

I don't remember the name*

[zinc matrix]

Question for everyone: what in your opinion makes a great single player game coming from an indie perspective so looking at the core of the game, would it be the world building, lore or story or playability(runs well) or something else? What makes you moist?

[fresh heath]

The gameplay should be fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYCoAnp8vw

[worldly ingot]

Personally I think if the game has an awesome story line and adventure, players do not fret as much about graphics

[fresh heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3avMBqJ9s

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1340083469817397248

John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)

Forgive me the dad-brag, but my son got a perfect SAT score on his first try, and I am very proud of him!

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 11:56 PM

I wonder if his son is going to end up in the game industry as well

Yeah

[zinc matrix]

really cool replies and video links 😛 really informative @fresh heath

[zinc matrix]

TL;DW dont be a fuckwit and make something you would find fun

anyone who needs to watch a 45 min lecture on that shouldnt be a gamedev

thats how we get the modern "AAA industry" and buggy bullshit like FO76

with zero excuses unlike if it was made by 1-10 people

[dim ruin]

Oh you're gonna be popular around here...

K&&||

That needs to be a handle

Thats Supermans home town

Kandor

K&&||

[oak valve]

@dim ruin Your profile picture gives me nightmares. ;-;

[dim ruin]

its hawt right?

[oak valve]

It embeds frustration.

It’s cool though. 😂😂👌🏻

[dim ruin]

its a no op

harmless little thing

[fresh heath]

Semicolons are used for comments in Common Lisp 🙂

[dim ruin]

theres another language that uses that aswell but I can't remember which

[oak valve]

Someone told me that semicolons are optional in JavaScript— is it right?

[dim ruin]

si seniore

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: Soul Tyrador#8287 was banned.

[zinc matrix]

thanks @tall plume

[tall plume]

was literally talking to that guy in #multiplayer

of course he was being racist in other channels

🤷🏽‍♂️

[fresh heath]

What happened?

[tall plume]

anyway, carry on

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-movealong-stormtrooper-gif-5509326

[fresh heath]

https://gfycat.com/adventurousanyasp

[mossy nexus]

heh my keyboard recognises unreal engine as a game.. hmm.

Which keyboard do you use?

I just got this one today, a Steelseries Apex 7.

Replaced my HyperX that started to give extra key presses more and more.

[oak valve]

Balancing between designing game and school is... fun.

https://tenor.com/view/слёзы-crying-sad-tears-emotional-gif-15348597

I think I spent like maybe too much time designing characters.

Making characters is fun though.

I am jealous of their time management. ;-;

Ah, I never had adblocks.

[fickle oriole]

Who doesn't have adblock?

[oak valve]

I don't.

😂

[fickle oriole]

I thought that was mandatory lol

Anyone knows what would happen if you lick the end of a phone charger? It's 4 am so had a bit of a shower thought

That's good to know, still not gonna try it but was curious haha

I mean, it's plugged in to the wall socket, should have enough juice to turn me into bacon?

Lol, yeh, well i have no idea how it works. Find it interesting tho

[tulip orbit]

🧐

[fickle oriole]

@tulip orbit Yeh, you cant just leave us hanging

[tulip orbit]

was thinking of saying: electrician here, try it out. if nothing, put it up somewhere else and see if that works 😄

[fickle oriole]

I'm shocked to hear that

[tulip orbit]

tongue might actually get ya something, with the moisture. But I doubt it'd do much

[fickle oriole]

So what you're saying is i can try it

[tulip orbit]

I'm not guaranteeing your safety

[fickle oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/beaker-electrocuted-ahhh-gif-9589484

[oak valve]

I like how I spent reading stuff here and doing my concept arts instead of studying. Lmao.

Also, from what I know, if you want to learn something, you have to try something.

I once stuck a metal fork in the socket.

[tulip orbit]

im actually an electrician, I touched the live bus bars in a panel once. that was fun.

[oak valve]

I turned out fine.

😩

I'm just an idiotic engineering student.

[tulip orbit]

eugh, engineer. 😉

[oak valve]

@tulip orbit You'd prolly dread to know most of my family has electrical engineers to be specific.

[fickle oriole]

I licked it good, it's nothing like that time i tried to clean my coffee machine in the bath tub while it was still plugged in

[tulip orbit]

🤷

[fickle oriole]

Where you from mate?

Cool, sweden here... so i've been reading up on this new electricity stuff, apparently if i had licked the end of my phone charger whilst holding my metal bed post i'd be fried. according to google, any electrician wanna pitch in?

[tulip orbit]

electricity takes the shortest path to ground, or where it could disperse

ooh, a nap sounds like a good idea

but I'm gonna play some witcher3

'night

[fickle oriole]

@zinc matrix good night mr finn

I'm not sure what that means in this context @tulip orbit

[oak valve]

I just made myself laugh doing thumbnail designs.

I realized how much suggestive jokes I could make on this particular character.

[sage ermine]

uh oh

launcher won't let me in

oop there it goes

[zinc matrix]

Unreal is tight.

[cursive crypt]

No, its loose. Just look inside and you will see.

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/stoned-blink-done-high-gif-15785200

One of the best pastimes

[median wraith]

I bet is Unreal

But I have seen 2 Unreal developers dating

so I don't know anymore

then is Unity

https://twitter.com/Berduu

Petri Levälahti (@Berduu)

I make & take screenshots at @EA_DICE. All tweets are quotes from the movie Commando (1985).

Tweets

18993

Followers

37342

Twitter

well well

Watch Dogs Legion have awesome graphics tbh

this account make you feel miserable 🤖

[foggy path]

this is probably the best photo mode I've taken in cyberpunk at least in terms of being kind of interesting with composition

comparing the photos on that account does make me wonder how much does the graphics settings affect photo mode since I'm definitely not running with everything maxed

I'm not 100% sure but it seems it might be adjusting graphics when taking the photo since for some reason it takes a moment when you press the button and you do notice a small difference in some effects

[median wraith]

@foggy path yeah that guy is playing minimum 4k or so

[median wraith]

That's pretty cool

[foggy path]

thanks

[median wraith]

you can take highress

ala UE4 inside the game

?

[foggy path]

you'd have to increase the game's resolution

[median wraith]

I'm sorry what is this

3060 RTX TI wtf

didn't even was released and have reviews lol

wait it was released ?

I'm lost

oh is the non ti the one about release

how that makes sense ?

[deep glen]

https://youtu.be/v1xmBC3-TSw

[broken sigil]

Cyberpunk is so good on the right hardware, easily the only game I enjoy doing side quests in

[deep glen]

some sidequests are decent, not nearly the witcher quality story wise, but the environmental story telling is really good. especially for some of the psychopsychosis ones (imho)

[broken sigil]

Side quests from Judy and Panam might be better than the actual main story lol

[deep glen]

did the first panam quest yesterday (meeting her quest-line) and those where darn well awesome

also the first time I was able to go trough a full questline without bugs and crashes XD

[broken sigil]

Yeah I just started Panam's quests yesterday as well, 35 hours in
I haven't had a single crash, in terms of bugs there we some cars going through walls and enemy AI being kinda weird at some places but that's about it
Seems like people get completely different experiences in terms of stability, some can't even play it how buggy it is and for some it works great

[deep glen]

i got it on both pc and ps4 pro
sadly no way to swap transfer saves between platforms so i mostly couch-potato is on ps4 pro and pffff

its a mess bugwise

[broken sigil]

ah yeah heard console versions aren't that great

[deep glen]

got one that results in me having to open shops twice before I can buy/sell stuff which is frustrating.

and lovedolls > always crash

reported the bug with the description "not my proudest bug report"

[broken sigil]

lol

[deep glen]

reported all crashes so far with positive messages for whoever reads em, i bet they can use all the positive support they can get

[median wraith]

Why looks like he is pasted over the video ? all the edges don't fit or are blur XD

[deep glen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TU2DvyWAdg recorded this bug because it took me out of the game entirely.
(spoilers for first chapter!!)

oh right, and during panam quest into that cave, i was inside her on the drivers seat

[median wraith]

ahahaah

[broken sigil]

oh right, and during panam quest into that cave, i was inside her on the drivers seat
haha yeah happened to me too, after I reloaded a save
yeah, people don't seem to understand it's not possible to fully play test the game during development, the majority of the issues will always be discovered after launch

I'm loving the game, I'm playing on PC so that's probably why it's been stable for me

[deep glen]

yea, dat raytracing/gi stuff makes it look so good.
but i just prefer to play sitting on my couch instead of at desk where I work all day XD

[median wraith]

tbh if you don't see this issues, you're blind there are issues all over the place @broken sigil

different topic is every single employee were in advanced crunch state

[deep glen]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/cyberpunk-game-maker-faces-hostile-staff-after-failed-launch

[median wraith]

and every single day the CEOs etc give a shit and launch whatever it is

[broken sigil]

I honestly don't have any issues at all, some very minor bugs but that's all

[median wraith]

you both are in PC ?

[deep glen]

besides the stupid time pressure, that game is massive.
they never attempted a fallout-esqian gta game before, and on that scale...
im already amazed its at the state it is.

@median wraith pc is faaaar more stable than ps4 pro for sure

[broken sigil]

I'm on PC yeah
in 35 hours the weirdest thing that happened was a car going through the wall, and that happened once

[median wraith]

yeah the game looks super big, and the more you have the less you can test so yeah

[median wraith]

that's kinda common on open world games lol

[broken sigil]

lol

[median wraith]

you got the ps4 version only ?

[deep glen]

both

[median wraith]

oh that why you compared then

[deep glen]

prolly because it doesnt need to constantly swap shiz like in the limited ps4 pro ram XD

[median wraith]

yeah you have to do magic when the system is too limited

[broken sigil]

I hope there will be DLCs, hope they won't end it with what we have now

[deep glen]

though even on pc I feel like vending/menu-ing is stupid slow

[median wraith]

OH BY THE WAY, now that you're here

[deep glen]

@broken sigil ikr, its my first really intense cyberpunk experience in forever. i need stories for years

[median wraith]

does Niagara have a performance impact over cascades doing the same effects ? @deep glen

*if you tested it

[deep glen]

i havent done any niagara stuff until I finish current pack.
but reading up on things, it should be close to 1:1 already, though it depends on a per-effect situation.

niagara is generally slightly more costly, but has better optimizations elsewhere

i.e. mesh particles can be spawned on gpu side in niagara, while its cpu in cascade

[broken sigil]

yeah haha
I'm avoiding main missions, doing every possible side mission and little things before I finish the story

[median wraith]

oh okay, the idea is to move 4.26 when I can to use a better version or something compared to the 4.21... but want it for non high end computers so will need to test it seems

[deep glen]

@broken sigil started with a brawler playtrough, but at level 17 i was already one-punch-manning everything, so moved into a more shotgun/sniper combo

stupid enough the boxing quests... i cant do because they one punch man me, even with 900 defense

[broken sigil]

I built like an all-rounder, but leaning more on the hacking side. Can clear a whole area with just quickhacks

[deep glen]

turning all the mechs/turrets into friendly is a nice way to start the fight hehe

https://giphy.com/gifs/nickjonas-nick-jonas-3q3QK6KyDVUBzih7hB

dat hacking minigame

[broken sigil]

Yeah, there also some really good ones, mainly "Suicide" and "System Reset" quickhacks, both instantly kill an enemy but you have to upgrade your OS first
btw if you didn't know you can get a hypercar for free, if you return to the tunnel you were in with Panam 3 days after (in game)

[median wraith]

the minigame is about find the same hexadecimal characters in a grid ?

[broken sigil]

yeah, can get tricky when you have 3 different codes at once and have to chain them together

[deep glen]

@broken sigil i only ride the bike. better handling imho :p

but ill grab it anyways

also, the cab-ai-quests, so good.

that could be a future dlc-quest on its own

[broken sigil]

Yeah those were funny hehe

This car handles well for a change, car physics is one aspect where I think they could of done better, it's not bad but there is something weird with handling

[deep glen]

imho i'd prefer a total overhaul of both that and car-ai in general

points at gta5

[broken sigil]

yeah tbh

Also not sure if you noticed but pretty sure AI cars are not running a full physics simulation, don't seem affected by physics at all until you get close to them, seems like they are "hard following"/"sliding" on a spline

[deep glen]

there is one road where they always ride trough a pillar XD

when you get close it messes it all up, flying cars, crashes, and actual ps4pro crashes

[broken sigil]

yeah, think my observation might be correct then xd

[deep glen]

when it comes to those things I do really wish they'd release it a year from now :p

[broken sigil]

They never really did vehicle simulations and AI before so I can forgive them but I wish it was better
I think if people let them delay it for another 2 months and didn't pressure them it would have been perfect

[unborn lotus]

what people? only the higher ups chose to release it now to get on that christmas cash

[deep glen]

thats what he meant with "people"

[solid aurora]

You'd be surprised how CP looked about 8 months ago

PC version was worse than consoles now

either way

in the long run

it's actually good for everybody CP tanked hard

maybe just maybe few people in CDP managment finally see that their way of making games is not working

[robust gulch]

[deep glen]

cp is by far the most messed up abbreviation for a game so far.

[median wraith]

1:30h to get Cyberpunk a random game for free at Epic

Soma have serious issues about know what fullscreen windowed game means

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/unvarnishedvoid/status/1340182469237194752

Strawberry Narwhal ‽ (@unvarnishedvoid)

i have never wanted to throw myself out a window more then in this moment...

Likes

753

Twitter · Dec 19, 2020, 6:29 AM

[humble remnant]

Do you ever just doofus

[median wraith]

hahaaha

people this days...

but you got time the rest of the year ?

someone does ?

[median wraith]

sad to see its payed content

hey mom let me buy this 15€ fortnite skin

I'm watching the top sellers here

where from the top 10 sold games at itch the half are adults games

and here are some games using even COD images lol

[lone grail]

Wtf did I watch lol

[median wraith]

well that video is correct lol

like Patreon creators get 20k per month

doing that

and you should check the rigs they use as if you think UE4-5 animation rigs are complete you should see these and the IK lol

[lone grail]

Vtubers pay $$$$$ for models I know that much

[median wraith]

hahaha watching the video further

[median wraith]

and games from what I see on itch

[lone grail]

I've always wanted the long dark, now I has it thanks for the heads up.
I looked at itch when I saw your comment and top 10 I saw were "normal" games

[median wraith]

I still waiting their expanions to relese lmao

[lone grail]

Noice

[median wraith]

The long waiting

is taking more than Cyberpunk

but this one were a good one since years

[lone grail]

"but can it run cyberpunk"

[median wraith]

xd

Twitter is imploding

[lone grail]

the new "can it run crisis" should be "can it run the average unoptimized indie game"

[median wraith]

creators follow up 5k people, nobody will notice it

after that people with 50k followers getting 20 interactions per tweet

all is lost in the sea

last time had more views and likes on instagram with 20 followers than on twitter with 500

somehow the tags work

kinda sad

[lone grail]

Weird mess

[median wraith]

yeah I don't know Twitter is a sea of memes now

[lone grail]

Twitter is the only social media I use other than discord but I just use for game dev posts and what not

[humble remnant]

Long Dark free on Epic btw

[median wraith]

Okay time to work in cubes that have mountains on it

👀

[zinc matrix]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/WhatsNew/Builds/ReleaseNotes/alpha5_00/index.html

[placid thistle]

UE5 docs, nice

[zinc matrix]

ya nice

[humble remnant]

[fresh heath]

Don't seem to load for me, I get the UE4 docs

[placid thistle]

It is UE4 docs 😅

Not sure why @zinc matrix linked it

[zinc matrix]

XD

[foggy path]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/WhatsNew/Builds/ReleaseNotes/UE1337/index.html

looks like you can just stick whatever in there...

lol

[cursive crypt]

You think there will be docs? Nah...

... today I was digging inside the code base. There were some traces of comments, but hardly it can be categorised as documentation.

[median wraith]

actually

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/HowToMakeMoneyWithUnrealAndXWebsites

@zinc matrix like that

😂

is a wiki

makes sense you can input any url

but should be locked

[humble remnant]

Yeah, should be https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/WhatsNew/Builds/ReleaseNotes/MegaButtcheeks/index.html

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/LATE_FX/status/1340345301140459528?s=20 Im getting this feeling too. I've been picking up some people to follow who are making their own videos, and in some cases using VR and XR/AR to bring the music to life visually.

Leighton 👁️⃤ (@LATE_FX)

Yeah...feels like artists who make music and know how to make 3D are gonna be the ones who really take over for the next few years. That’s gonna be the new “i make my own beats”.

Twitter · Dec 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

[unborn lotus]

Take over what?

[bronze axle]

The docs just redirect to the homepage when you try to visit a page that doesn't exist, instead of a 404 page.

[median wraith]

yep

[bronze axle]

I wonder how many people saw SexyChan's link and were like 👀 👀 👀

[median wraith]

lol

yeah I was asking myself, didn't know about the urls

https://marcis.itch.io/psxfx

did you ever seen people paying for bad graphics ?

😜

that's top sellers too

[cursive crypt]

Bad graphics is subjective.

[median wraith]

well

downgraded graphics lets call it

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1340369768138862592

John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)

Because I believe that current supercomputers are actually sufficient for human level AGI, I entertain the (<1%) possibility that there is already one running in a secret lab somewhere. The capital is easily available to hundreds of organizations, but that mode of development \

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185

Twitter · Dec 19, 2020, 6:53 PM

[cursive crypt]

It's okay, I know what you meant. Just some ppl like it.

[median wraith]

well, I mean aren't bad but is basically people paying to get a downgrade in graphics

tastes aren't related, is just a tech cut

[humble remnant]

Aren't there free post-process packs that have that specific shader

[fathom wadi]

it's a genuine thing. I know a few people who write shaders to emulate that.

Also...

https://www.sensiblesoccer.de/swos-2020

almost 30 years now of Sensible Soccer and they are still updating it? Crazy talk.

in what sense?

hmm

I have a setup that is using tiles that are 11m x 11m x 11m but I haven't done any performance checking yet

Is there much of a hit from lighting if you scale up (presuming you also scale the lightmass volume, also presuming you are using one) ?

I've got a fairly odd setup with mine. Single levels which are essentially the same room. Mix of dynamic and static lighting. Streamed in and out as you traverse each room (with a buffer for AI chases). I haven't finished testing like I said, but it's on my mind to check which is better. Loading up a whole bunch of rooms first or keep a constant stream of rooms. There is no performance hit in loading the rooms at all really and they load in plenty of time for the door animation to kick in. But lots to test yet. Works nice if I jump through rooms until I get bored though. No pop-in.

Oh. I have a Persistent map loading sublevels dynamically. Not within the folder structure (preloaded).

I created a Latent Stream Level node so I should get it to output the time it took to load I guess, then I know if it's going to perhaps be an issue later on when I get more complex code in the levels.

this is another issue I'm playing with. Do I stream in a linear fashion? Thereby spreading out into the world, or so I just do some magic shuffle of locations and everytime you enter a new room, it resets the room back to 0,0,0. That might make things easier for later down the line also but I already factored it in with local data built into the rooms that I can grab from the level streaming info with another node I made 😄

[fathom wadi]

Dunno it depends what you are looking for.

That being said, I don't do the conventional method of world comp so the docs are pointless to me in that respect

If you follow the docs you end up with static world comp. So you are only changing visibility of streamed levels. I don't know why exactly, but I didn't want to leave unused levels behind that I had to deal with in bulk once I got some distance away.

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/otakucalendarjp/status/1339959160369115138

otakujp (@otakucalendarjp)

Harley Quinn gets a variant cover for the upcoming 2021 relaunch's first issue by Yoshitaka Amano, who is a designer for Final Fantasy, Gibiate, etc.

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Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 PM

[median wraith]

@zinc matrix in my case the bigger the tiles and less density them have the better

but it was for a huge level and airplanes

no dense detail at ground is something I paid

Some is largest than expected

[median wraith]

lol

[median wraith]

reminds me of PCFutbol the hell is that

[fathom wadi]

Old amiga game that is legendary. Main competitor to another football game called Kick Off. But it was superior in fun and longevity apparently

[median wraith]

yesterday where actually listening a podcast from an ex dev of PC Futbol

thats a 90s game from here

and seems like were famous

I don't really know what happened here in the 90s but from masters of game engines and games we passed to the worst of the world

corruption eats everything we do as always

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Fútbol

[fathom wadi]

lol

[mint void]

royalty free ice age

[vital bluff]

Hello

[lone grail]

Cursed ice age lol
Hello

[median wraith]

12/20/2020/20:20

oh yeah

[cursive crypt]

no

[median wraith]

oh first time I see this

top upcoming games to steam features about 10 where 3 are adult games

steam is basically itch now 🤔

[median wraith]

Unpopular opinion

Starlink Battle for Atlas is better than NMS

[median wraith]

welp

[cursive crypt]

?

Still no clue what you are taking about :)

[foggy path]

daily free game on EGL

[cursive crypt]

Oof.. ok

I think there was a list somewhere... What games they freed up last two days?

[foggy path]

hmm I wonder what they were... cities skylines at least

yeah I saw a list as well and none of it has matched lol

one of the Oddworld series games was another freebie..

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, I guess it was.

[foggy path]

Uplay is also giving away games btw

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... Anyway, its cool the do it. Enjoy.

[foggy path]

they had Trials Rising which is something I've been thinking of trying at some point

[fresh heath]

I've seen another list that actually matched

Don't think I can find it now

I remember it had Tropico 5 near the end

Darkest Dungeon somewhere in the middle

It wasn't very mindblowing

So keep your expectations low if that list is true

[zinc matrix]

why isn't money getting deleted after few usages?

would remove inflation. central bank sends money to humans. Universal basic income. i buy something in a shop. the money gets deleted. the workers either do it for free, just for fun, or get additional stuff.

[lone grail]

Could potentially have the opposite effect

[zinc matrix]

end

so where is your opposite effect

[lone grail]

So if printing more money lowers the value, and if there is less of it then it increases in value then as money gets deleted after each use and more money needs to be printed, and money is a higher value than before, everything could easily sky rocket in price and it could level out the same as it is now or worse, potentially

[zinc matrix]

you make 0 sense

[lone grail]

k

[zinc matrix]

dont make it difficult if its not

[lone grail]

Not making anything difficult

[zinc matrix]

why would price increase of a item lol

[lone grail]

If the value of money changes, usually there is economical reaction

[zinc matrix]

not a thing in taht system

what value of money

what you talking

[lone grail]

Nevermind -_-

[zinc matrix]

🙄

[lone grail]

Money has value... that's the value I am talking about

[zinc matrix]

what u mean. what is value.

[unborn lotus]

@zinc matrix you are high right?

[zinc matrix]

money literally has 0 value in my system

you'd know that if oyu would have read my text

[lone grail]

You didn't explain much

[zinc matrix]

yeah. cause its not difficult

[lone grail]

So i'm supposed to assume some things you never said? ok

My bad

[zinc matrix]

ya. tell me what you think how its work

[lone grail]

I told you how it'd work in real life

[zinc matrix]

i mean literally everything is there which is relevant

[median wraith]

dat free game of the day

[zinc matrix]

i told you everything which is relevant to know?

[lone grail]

Nevermind this is silly

[zinc matrix]

you buy something. money gets deleted after it.

[lone grail]

It wouldn't work is all i'm saying

[zinc matrix]

you have no idea honey

[lone grail]

or it wouldn't work as you'd expect

[zinc matrix]

then lets play this here so we can see where it doesnt work

that is what i want the whole time

[lone grail]

I have no idea about how money or economics work? lol okay

[zinc matrix]

lets play that

you dont need to. its a better system

what you know rn is irrelevant

[lone grail]

Lol

Good luck

[zinc matrix]

what. what has this to do with me or luck

[lone grail]

Lol

[zinc matrix]

you dont want to simulate this

[fresh heath]

The remaining EGS list:

— Metro 2033
— Tropico 5
— Inside
— Darkest Dungeon
— My Time In Portia
— Night in the Woods
— Stranded Deep
— Solitairica
— Torchlight 2
— Jurassic World Evolution```

[lone grail]

Those are all the upcoming free games?

[fresh heath]

Yeah

[lone grail]

Nice

[fresh heath]

They repeated giveaways before

[zinc matrix]

@zinc matrix so they can increase price of their ue5 games

so who wants to test out my economical system

[lone grail]

It'd be cool if it was the redux collection

I have both redux's on ps4, haven't beat 2033 yet, I've been meaning to start a new game because I don't remember what's going on

I have too many games to play I just need to pick 1 at a time

[mint void]

what are you doing step object

[median wraith]

feels bad man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZZaGvcbBSo&ab_channel=Markiplier

didn't know that web

[devout lotus]

Hell yeah

[unborn lotus]

Too bad I already finished alien isolation like 4 times haha

[lone grail]

I have it on ps4 but only got like half way through before forgetting about it lol

My time in portia my gf plays and enjoys it so I'm looking forward to playing it

[median wraith]

Interesting how a Hunting game turned into a retro sci fi robots game and now into a dinosaurs game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1024380/Second_Extinction/

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