#lounge
tulip orbit
pearl elk
I remember this back in the day when people were honestly convinced it was Kurt Cobain singing
broken sigil
I disagree
Symphonic metal was ๐
primal summit
that rates highly
primal summit
operatic power metal
copper moat
hi everyone
pearl elk
I wonder when palette knife will arrive
cursive crypt
What knife?
pearl elk
well we got HBpencil and Crayon... was waiting for the painters PaletteKnife to join ๐
pearl elk
pearl elk
This pencil might even be older than some people here lol
German ones arnt as good tbh
unborn lotus
hello fren
pearl elk
lol nice one, 8B
unborn lotus
I have to get one of those fancy japanese mechanical pencils
that rotate the lead
anti-break mechanisms
unborn lotus
pearl elk
Go a gel roller and just be careful to not make mistakes
cursive crypt
wtf, I want one, be the cool kid in the village
stray orbit
I wish I could actually sculpt... everything I try to make, whenever I attempt to sculpt, turns into a nightmare. It's a sign I should never step away from subd modeling I think.
pearl elk
Nightmares help to calm peoples souls
proud jay
hyped for doot
cursive crypt
Great job UE ๐คฏ
warm bloom
oh my
so if statements are conditionals
if the condition is met it does whatever is in the scope
the thing is they're doing
else if (!bPassed)
which would be the same as if ... else
! is a not operator
its works how its supposed to
its just stupid to do it that way
I am not and currently not interested in working within ue working on other low level shit in rust
also there's channels for this specific thing #rev-share-jobs and #volunteer-projects
you can use the /job command to make postings to the channel that best fits your criteria
You'll have a hard time finding someone who is interested in doing uncompensated work when the projects don't align with their interests or they're working on their own ambitions unfortunately
Since you're not able to offer compensation a much easier way to learn how to program and even understand the logic behind how blueprints works is learning core concepts that aren't language specific
such as variables, conditionals, functions, loops, objects, arrays and data types
once you learn these kinds of concepts and actually get an understanding its a lot easier to solve the problems and understand how to approach things properly
A lot of tutorials don't really explain properly why x does y because they either assume you have prior knowledge of such concepts or they expect people to simply copy code which is unfortunately why many people get stuck in tutorial hell
its very simple to read these keywords and have no idea of the underlying meaning and what it does don't approach code in a way where you just expect to know because it looks familiar
you'll just frustrate yourself
The unfortunate reality is their is no guarantee for the time investment to ever result in an outcome that ends in profit most people that have a understanding these sorts of concepts are also easily able to receive work where they get the guarantee of pay without relying on an outcome that is a probability
I think you're confusing the game with the programming language
i have been paid a $100 for 30 minutes of my time in simple feedback calls relating to saas applications
just for a gauge of how much these companies tend to offer
I don't understand why you're upset I have given you constructive feedback and the reality of the situation I had stated off the get-go I was not interested in working I was simply giving you some very useful information on approaching programming and a reality check on why most people tend to not work for free or do consultations for free
as much as you may have your heart into a project its hard for people to match that same level especially if they have to have money to pay for their livelihood
I can also see you've not posted to any of the job channels
warm bloom
ahh fair enough i dont really care about the money
just provide my housing water transport and food
warm bloom
see there's a point where that logic fails cause the majority of people in here are working class and do not have the ability to live without stable income
soft night
i ate some macaronis + bacon + sausage slice
warm bloom
Now if you plan on getting me a visa and a ride on that ๐ to a country that offers the bare minimum to people or if you plan on restructuring my government to provide me with such benefits maybe I would spend my time working on projects that were from my heart
warm bloom
I have not mentioned you a singular time since you said fuck off
soft night
summary of conversation?
soft night
so developer get used? and not get anything
proud jay
you say people feel entitled to get money for their work, but is seem like you feel entitled to expect people to work for you for free
warm bloom
dieter now what a evil man you're being
obviously you're money hungry and don't work from your heart
proud jay
you literally said you cannot offer pay, and then blame crayon for assuming there's no pay
soft night
warm bloom
consultation is work
soft night
talk is cheap, actions speak more loudly
proud jay
do you want to convince people to work on your thing, that can be free
soft night
Time is money
proud jay
your attitude is enough to make no one want to work with you tbh
and crayon already mentioned there's #rev-share-jobs
there are people that work for rev share, just know that the pool of people is smaller
and probably lesser quality, since people that know what they do can ask money for what they do
warm bloom
and probably lesser quality, since people that know what they do can ask money f...
I already mentioned this...
proud jay
why would an engineer that makes 100k for example work on a rev-share project instead
man, is this a new copy pasta
your compensating attitude would indicate that that is physically hard to achieve
warm bloom
man, is this a new copy pasta
No this is bluemans chatgpt bot
it degraded so quickly ๐ฆ
cursive crypt
proud jay
haha lmao this dude
no we don't, you're just overreacting to people telling you that most people don't work for free
warm bloom
no we don't, you're just overreacting to people telling you that most people don...
I even gave them what I thought was very good knowledge to learn programming but all I got was attitude
proud jay
guess he's banned since robbie is here
rancid root
I struck him but am considering more actions
cursive crypt
Waiting for the admins to flash again ๐
warm bloom
i usually dont report people but... this was a special case of something
rancid root
Let's try to continue the conversation as normal
cursive crypt
Y'all should chill, send me all your money instead.
proud jay
quickly janisku post some random gifs
warm bloom
if blue man was here this wouldn't have happened
cursive crypt
<random gif here>
warm bloom
what do we pay him to do
proud jay
cursive crypt
He is AI generating
warm bloom
soft night
wizarding world have house pride round 2
proud jay
what's that
cursive crypt
Janisku bot broke
slow gyro
It's amazing that, after so many years, looking into #lounge still shows Janisku being as random as ever.
soft night
some say Ryogb is great giffer
proud jay
https://tenor.com/view/playdoh-s-impsons-ralf-gif-10758062
is this how you got your username
warm bloom
no
soft night
I tried to get right batman gif but didnt find the right one
warm bloom
it was back during my deployment to the Crayola factory
soft night
the nolan batman trilogy the defines thing
warm bloom
i had to defend against the Cra-Z-Art imposter army
soft night
some have said that image say more than thousands of words so gif can be seen one of those
oh i need to do second parte of images for story of sight of Hoth
proud jay
sorry to bring this back up, but this dude is on drugs right lol
no way anyone is this braindead
cursive crypt
Who would be the next big MP seller? This is a missed opportunity.
warm bloom
no way anyone is this braindead
I have to assume they're still relatively young and the working world is crippling their dreams to some extent
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
zinc matrix
Who would be the next big MP seller? This is a missed opportunity.
baby gpt? thats kind of cute
bby, bpy
i guess im on drugs too
zinc matrix
i know ๐
warm bloom
i didn't
cursive crypt
Enough drugs.
zinc matrix
its the api that ive never got working with any ide with intellisense/autocompletion. dunno if that has changed
warm bloom
beepy geepty
soft night
Dieter is that use chattyGPT?
warm bloom
he doesn't even know how to differentiate me and you
proud jay
ok going to block him now
think that behaviour can be enough to constitute perma ban from server if @rancid root needed any convincing
cursive crypt
Steam is still high.
soft night
i got friend invite from the shuttle gif
cursive crypt
i got friend invite from the shuttle gif
pearl elk
soft night
ryogb if shottyaim was here you may also got friend invite
cursive crypt
I'm perma banned from DM
pearl elk
How come I always miss the fun ones
cursive crypt
Things just went south.
rancid root
Are they only messaging Dieter in DM or more people?
proud jay
I'm perma banned from DM
sadge
cursive crypt
I'm on the clear, no grudge.
warm bloom
i really dont understand why they went after dieter
maybe they don't know how to read
that would explain a lot
cursive crypt
Get dietered.
proud jay
Everybody hates 
pearl elk
Dieter is clearly the leader of the oppressors
proud jay
maybe they don't know how to read
they don't since they assumed I told them to go fuck themselves while that was you
soft night
i decline friend requiest so i dont get anything from spottyaim
warm bloom
they kept insulting me when i was trying to help them
so then i gave them less respect
๐น
pearl elk
They even self marketed ๐
pearl elk
Hey watch my youtubes btw Im a pain in the butts lol
zinc matrix
all im gonna say is; what a weird way to recruit people
pearl elk
[Tutorial] Howto make a tinfoil hat to avoid brainwashing
warm bloom
all im gonna say is; what a weird way to recruit people
honestly they'd make a good ceo in america
pay people nothing get all the work done
and a complete asshole
its like every american ceo
pearl elk
But you didnt even hear their idea, it was gonna be a Halo killer
rancid root
Just banned them, let's continue with life and happy development :)
proud jay
we're supposed to be happy during development?
pearl elk
You have to develop the happy
warm bloom
let happy: bool = true;
warm bloom
i did all the work for you
proud jay
wouldn't the bool be implicit
soft night
or get the pin like that
pearl elk
If(happy){}elseif(!happy){}
proud jay
well that second if is just superfluous
warm bloom
wouldn't the bool be implicit
the trick is finding the bit and replacing it with a zero
pearl elk
well that second if is just superfluous
Not happy?
proud jay
yes
just doing else instead of else if would have the same effect
even better, do an early return in the happy block
warm bloom
I was wondering if when its compiled the else if would be worse by still doing a conditional check
pearl elk
While(!happy){}
soft night
Union HappyOrNot (Happy | Not(" something eat happiness"))
proud jay
I was wondering if when its compiled the else if would be worse by still doing a...
I think compiler would optimize it out probably
warm bloom
probably
pearl elk
If you have a compiler that is
proud jay
I just do the same but with rev share instead
pearl elk
If(RandBool()){}elseif(RandBool()){}
warm bloom
can someone explain b-trees to me properly
no matter how much I understand them they just don't make any fucking sense
pearl elk
B-trees come before c-trees but after a-trees, makes sense?
soft night
mons how your planetary system?
warm bloom
I mention b-trees and everyone runs away
pearl elk
Its coming along quite well tbh, Im on a hell of a sprint atm. Im doing the async level loading
proud jay
can someone explain b-trees to me properly
it's just a bifurcating arborescence
you just have 2 links on each node
< node goes left, > node goes right
done
warm bloom
the actual part I didn't understand was how keys worked with alternative data types like chars
I guess the underlying value
but at the same time I can't wrap my head around how that would be efficient
but I know why
it just feels wrong
๐
warm bloom
the performance on built in ones tend to be pretty bad
there's also like cache oblivious b-trees
and b+trees
proud jay
what are you using binary trees for
I think I haven't explicitely used one outside of school theory ever tbh
I mean used them by using default data types of course, but not like specifically I need a binary tree for this, gonna write one
proud jay
but how do you not understand it then
cursive crypt
B tree is like your average binary tree, but on the Nth scale (if bin is N = 2).
cursive crypt
I mention b-trees and everyone runs away
This time you ran away.
warm bloom
lol I was somewhat joking I do understand it
there's just some weird optimization techniques used within wiredtiger which is mongodb
and some other databases
for specific indexes
there's also lsm to consider
and inverted indexes
cursive crypt
This time, I'm running away.
proud jay
mongodb is bae
soft night
this was interesting panel with demo where used unity game engine but it could be any game engine https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/net-events/on-net-live-building-a-game-with-net-and-orleans/ev-p/3765252
ancient ingot
๐ฎ
proud jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
lol what is this
foggy path
You've never seen that? lol
It's a classic from more innocent days, when the hype for MongoDB was Realโข๏ธ
cursive crypt
stray orbit
The ethics collar around OpenAI IS a little too tight, lol.
They are zealously puritan.
... in what you can use AI for.
proud jay
I wonder what these AI ethics would entail for political landscape
like obviously the "taste" of the developers is in there
like if people would actually use it as a search engine lets say
not that I'm against the average political leaning of silicon valley
but it would supress others even more
warm bloom
I believe a lot of the ethics chokeholds comes from Nvidia
proud jay
who is gonna come up with anti vaxx theories then
warm bloom
Nvidia is really strict on ai ethics
soft night
openai go very hostile very fast
tulip orbit
Jeebus... @ this ue5 course about animation blueprints.... he's cached animation at every single step.. like... 6 times on a very simple graph...
proud jay
cached how
tulip orbit
save cached pose
proud jay
y
soft night
tulip orbit
I dont know ๐ฆ
proud jay
I remember optimizing our animations though
that shit was wild
cause you can make these fast nodes
idk the exact name anymore
and in order to make literally everything a fast node we had to cache a bunch in animation proxy
but in the end our BP was like almost 100% fast nodes and it paid off
tulip orbit
yeah, saw a pin about that in the animation channel
proud jay
it was like 45% faster at least
(I only did this cause I profile animations to be heavy in our frame budget)
fucking nintendo switch
tulip orbit
theres only like 2 nodes on this tutorial right now that are marked as fast
was watching this to try and learn proper practices, but I dont feel like I am
proud jay
maybe check pins in #animation ?
tulip orbit
close enough to being done the series, so f-it
yeah, this series was one of the ones linked. Got one other ready to watch
what I need is a tutorial on how to set up the animations themselves. like what is root motion and when would I use it. If I'm making a weapon holding animation, do I need to animate legs?
for instance, I made a quick anim of my player holding a big heavy gun, it looks fine in the animation, but when its blended with the leg/locomotion anims, too much is lost in the spine blend and he's no longer aiming the gun in the right direction. Did I not set up the animation correctly, or is the problem in the animBP?
also, feel bad for the people asking for help in #animation.... so many questions, but pretty much zero answers...
warm bloom
6 days til gdc
warm bloom
fucking nintendo switch
thats terrible
isn't the hardware in those things pretty low end
warm bloom
tbf most of the times consoles don't actually make any money on the console itself
but on their exclusives
i think microsoft is the only one in a good position anymore
with their gamepass
warm bloom
more like long term proofing
proud jay
but indeed they sell at a loss to make up with games later
not just exclusives
any game sold for their platform
warm bloom
i feel people are still flocking to PC
warm bloom
i just watch shit on my phone
proud jay
you're strange
warm bloom
i dont even own any streaming services or cable
warm bloom
youtube is sufficient
proud jay
that hosts perfectly legal contentโข๏ธ
warm bloom
yes just like everyone else home servers
warm bloom
you're strange
idk its comfortable to lay down
proud jay
do you like not have a tv and couch
ancient ingot
arse!
proud jay
no tv
why not
it's better than a phone
and you can be on your phone at the same time
warm bloom
idk I like having a open room for just sitting and no media
it's cozy
also I just watch everything on my phone
in bed
maiden lance
ancient ingot
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
proud jay
are you high on coffee again
proud jay
luos has abandoned us since he got a real job
ancient ingot
๐ญ
broken sigil
it's just not released yet
I know ๐ฅฒ
unborn lotus
luos has abandoned us since he got a real job
He needs time to figure out if slacking at work is passable
warm bloom
I know ๐ฅฒ
it's coming out this month
broken sigil
I'm just hoping the API access for general public will also be released at the same time
stray orbit
It seems I missed the angry gamedev "make my project for me" drama earlier, huh? ๐คฃ
soft night
broken sigil
stray orbit
Ye, looks like ChatGPT Plus users get GPT-4 as default now?
stray orbit
Ah, seems slow rollout cuz "everyone is scrambling" ๐
brittle linden
You know why I just don't switch to linux? IDM, there no alternative for it there!
broken sigil
https://www.youtube.com/live/outcGtbnMuQ?feature=share
Joined the api waitlist
Hopefully won't have to wait for ages
long viper
With AI advancing and all, imagine middle schoolers using chat gpt for math homework so they donโt even understand basic algebra concepts
zinc matrix
its even more funnier when chatgpt sucks at math
stray orbit
So, my first rounds of getting GPT-4 to write code... it did pretty good. I wonder if that will continue, or if its just luck.
pearl elk
Unreal doubles be like
I was actually trying to get it to use exponential notation lol
pearl elk
I have noticed UnrealEd has some imprecision, those numbers on the very end are meant to be zeros too
mossy nexus
lol
pearl elk
Yeah I dunno what causes it but when you input some numbers it adds alittle jitter bug
mossy nexus
it's why "nearly equals" is a thing I guess. Although in your case "might be equals but who cares" could be more of a thing
pearl elk
Isnt it cool to know you could do a simulation using the actual mass of the Earth... thats what that big number is
float32 added more imprecision by the looks so the input box must be display the friendly number versus showing the exponent
wont let me type an e character ๐
it also zeros out if you try to do numbers with commas instead of removing the commas
unreal ether
#instructions if you want to post to the job board
pearl elk
Awesome, use AI to cheat on taxes
cursive crypt
If you believe so.
blazing pendant
holy lol
cursive crypt
pearl elk
How long until OpenAI livestreams are entirely AI generated ๐
cursive crypt
How long until all their listeners are AI too.
cursive crypt
soft night
its time to update robots.txt
pearl elk
How long until all their listeners are AI too.
They say most of the traffic on the internet will be from AI
Which isnt terrible tbh, browsing websites sucks balls ๐
Wouldnt it be glorious to go to your PC in the morning and bazinga all the things you wanted to do that day are sitting in a nice structured pile in your inbox
Just check through the invoices and bills, yup pay that shit for me AI fren
cursive crypt
"Make me a game", "Ok, in 2 days"
pearl elk
businesses are gonna hate it because pricing is going to become so homogenised since AI will always be trawling for the best deals
Wont be able to tricky the AI with sneaky things like raising the price then saying its 25% off, AI will be like aye mate thats bull...
cursive crypt
This will really generate a lot of traffic. Actually, the infrastructure won't hold.
pearl elk
You mean it was holding before?
cursive crypt
Well, ain't it?
pearl elk
If anything this might help to streamline traffic since requests will be more centralized through AI hubs
cursive crypt
Nah, this needs a lot of traffic.
pearl elk
you wont be getting heavy traffic bottlenecking out front of Joe Bobs Guns and Steak
cursive crypt
I know that from a little bird in fact. The AI centers currently build here & there require new routing tech & new silicon designs.
pearl elk
might need more bandwith but surely less routing issues since the AI will be running on the chunky monkey clouds
soft night
cursive crypt
Interestingly, these would most likely require ML on digital level. Kinda what nvidia does, but in another industry.
terse wasp
I told ChatGPT4 to write a song about Unreal:
(Verse 1)
In a world of endless dreams, where creativity gleams,
There's a tool that breaks the seams, Unreal Engine, it's supreme.
From the mountains to the valleys, in every virtual scene,
Unreal Engine, the magic behind the screen.
(Chorus)
Oh, Unreal Engine, you build our dreams so high,
With every shader and blueprint, our visions touch the sky.
A world of endless wonder, where fantasies take flight,
Unreal Engine, you light our way, through darkest night.
(Verse 2)
In the land of ones and zeros, where stories come alive,
Epic battles, heartfelt tales, and heroes will survive.
With Niagara's sparkling wonders, and Chaos Physics' might,
Unreal Engine, you give us power, you give us sight.
(Chorus)
Oh, Unreal Engine, you build our dreams so high,
With every shader and blueprint, our visions touch the sky.
A world of endless wonder, where fantasies take flight,
Unreal Engine, you light our way, through darkest night.
(Bridge)
From the indie devs and artists, to the AAA games we adore,
A universe of boundless chances, you've opened up the door.
With every pixel painted, and every ray traced,
Unreal Engine, you've changed the world, you've changed the race.
(Chorus)
Oh, Unreal Engine, you build our dreams so high,
With every shader and blueprint, our visions touch the sky.
A world of endless wonder, where fantasies take flight,
Unreal Engine, you light our way, through darkest night.
(Outro)
So, here's to the creators, the dreamers of our time,
And to the force that drives them, Unreal Engine, you're sublime.
With every world we wander, and every tale we spin,
Unreal Engine, forever in our hearts, you'll always win.
@broken sigil ๐
pearl elk
I mean its not terrible but it definitely needs improvement ๐
Its more to do with the rhyme scheme and flow than it is the language
soft night
Mons would you get the bag from robot?
pearl elk
What bag?
soft night
like that bag from atlas
pearl elk
I wouldnt let anyone throw shit at me on a work site tbh
so Atlas would get fired ๐
Trouble with larger robots is when theres a problem its scaled up dramatically
For instance I know of mining accidents between automated trucks, they were meant to follow but because someone did a calculation from the sensor and not from the edge of the vehicle they had an impact. Atlas and doggo are kinda small so they could cause issues but if it were a huge demolition vehicle with a wrecking ball...
I think it'll be awhile before we start trusting automation on that sort of heavy scale, most of the systems will still be monitored heavily like most machinery already is
soft night
hacksmith industries made a huge spider hex thing https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/giant-ride-on-spider-robot/
sweet rose
hacksmith industries made a huge spider hex thing https://www.raspberrypi.com/ne...
how long before we can play Crossout in real life
soft night
still need development
pearl elk
Crossout with its imaginary mechanics
proud jay
hacksmith industries made a huge spider hex thing https://www.raspberrypi.com/ne...
yeah and they lost a bunch of money on it and the creator got depressed
broken sigil
I told ChatGPT4 to write a song about Unreal:
```
(Verse 1)
In a world of endles...
LOL
soft night
someone mentioned mantis spider-hex
still cove
lounge
carmine frigate
now have it write 90s porn movie scripts
carmine frigate
i played chess on shrooms once
well i think it was shrooms, could have been lsd
mayB both
i did pretty bad... but my opponent also had eaten shrooms
and mid game he jumped out of his chair thinking the chair was trying to eat him, so i sorta won
good times
sweet rose
on 8 chess win streak boys
try playing Atomic
sweet rose
and mid game he jumped out of his chair thinking the chair was trying to eat him...
sounds like lsd
carmine frigate
after the chess game we went for cigs in a nearby eating place... he got a bunch of customors and pushed em off their tables out of the place... the morning after he was out of cigs again... didnt remember shit and went too the same place to get more but he didnt get any ๐
it was sold in a legal smartshop official stuff, it was a shroom chocolate bar... but i read at one point some get tested and they contained lsd
sweet rose
wild man
carmine frigate
yea i ate shrooms a few times... most of the time it had lil to no effect
altho i smoked some dried ones at one point , didnt feel anything but when i ate an apple it was the best thing i ever tasted
those chocolate bars were allways full on crazy... nothing like the shrooms i ate
those shrooms i smoked also grow in my garden i think... but i dont dare eating em...
rather have the professinals handle that stuff
pearl elk
Shrooms are a key piece in Mario Chess
carmine frigate
i havent had any in ages... at least 10 years
that apple i ate while on shrooms... still the best thing i ever tasted ๐
sweet rose
Shroom Chicken Tikka Masala
carmine frigate
had some offers on 100% out of this world stuff... but i really dont dare lose full controll
altho a lot of whiskey basically does the same
zinc matrix
yea i ate shrooms a few times... most of the time it had lil to no effect
i tried those couple times when i was younger. i had some visuals on walls when i listened to pink floyd. you know, like those old school audio visualizers? it was pretty cool. i also saw my face melting in mirror, that was not cool. worth it? probably not.
unborn lotus
A man microdosed on shrooms. This is what happened with his organs
worldly mesa
Gotta love the wording on this "Privacy
Your code is yours. We follow responsible practices in accordance with our Privacy Statement to ensure that your code snippets will not be used as suggested code for other users of GitHub Copilot."
Never says that 'They' won't use your code for whatever purposes ๐
Funny how businesses have more rights than people. "GitHub Copilot transmits snippets of your code from your IDE to GitHub to provide Suggestions to you. Code snippets data is only transmitted in real-time to return Suggestions, and is discarded once a Suggestion is returned. Copilot for Business does not retain any Code Snippets Data."
steady fox
I took 10 capsules once and got locked in hell, that was a no from me
cursive crypt
Another day, another offer of upgrade to free win11
slate orbit
I took 10 capsules once and got locked in hell, that was a no from me
Yeah I've had some similar experiences. I also can't recommend it.
zinc matrix
Gotta love the wording on this "Privacy
Your code is yours. We follow responsibl...
one reason why plenty of people i know moved away from github ๐
slate orbit
The privacy ship has sailed, if you have stuff "in the cloud" they can look at it any time they want to. There's two types of cloud providers, those who tell you when they're looking at your data, and those who lie about it.
zinc matrix
yeah, its like social media of programming. nothing is free.
no matter what spottyaim says..
steady fox
Yeah I've had some similar experiences. I also can't recommend it.
I don't recommend weed either, people say it's "harmless" well, it's absolutely not, my unfortunate brain makeup doesn't take to it, and you can suffer long psychosis issues, like, going upside down messes with me.
slate orbit
yeah, its like social media of programming. nothing is free.
Even paid services have full access to your data, and they use it
They may not be stealing your code but they're certainly stealing every timestamp on everything you've ever done to gather metrics on activity times and anything else that can be calculated
zinc matrix
so, like facebook? ๐
slate orbit
Absolutely, that's an obvious example
But, literally every other cloud provider you use is doing the same thing
foggy path
Read the TOS and data processing info
You may find that many of them actually don't, or you have to agree to it in the EU in particular
slate orbit
Those aren't relevant to internal usage of your data, because they do it without telling you.
foggy path
Not true. Internal data collection is included in GDPR regulations and if they collect data which can be identified with you, you have to be told about it and you have to explicitly agree to it
slate orbit
Heh, I like your optimism.
foggy path
Pretending like everyone is breaking the law is not a very useful way of looking at it either
slate orbit
Okay
zinc matrix
gdpr.. and people were worried about memes, and said "save the internet". i guess that didnt age well.
foggy path
It was a valid concern
The meme related stuff was fixed in the proposed regulations in question (which were unrelated to GDPR)
zinc matrix
oh, really? i didnt know. thought it was memes about memes.. ๐
foggy path
Yeah it's a copyright related directive, they added clauses for parody into it which covers memes and other things people were worried about
In general otherwise it seemed like a fairly reasonable directive from what I read about it but I don't remember the specifics otherwise since it was a long time ago
foggy hollow
yea i ate shrooms a few times... most of the time it had lil to no effect
was it purple
proud jay
interesting
IO interactive opening new office in Istanbul
@timber viper could work on hitman ๐ฎ
timber viper
seriously?
timber viper
who tf would open an office at istanbul when there is a %100 risk of an 9.0 earthquake
proud jay
who tf would open an office at istanbul when there is a **%100** risk of an **9....
they were probably planning this way before the earthquakes already though
timber viper
I'd cancel the plan immediately
its not a conspiracy theory at this point, government is trying to find a way to empty Istanbul
timber viper
yeah thats also what I was thinking
proud jay
oh
co-owner is of turkish origin
Hakan B. Abrak
he's the ceo atm
basing this on the fact that turkish is listed as his mothertongue on his linkedin
but also danish
so probably born in denmark to one turkish parent
timber viper
it'll be the first AAA office here
i was hoping Ubisoft to do that
but IO did it first
yay
now i wonder if they will apply EU rates here or try to trick people into "Dollar already makes a lot in Turkey" thing like how other industries doing
proud jay
idk
I'd guess just decent turkey rates
it's not really tricking if you pay adjusted to cost of living
timber viper
If I have the same skillset I'd expect same salary with someone at EU but idk, people here would be willing enough for a decent Turkish rate i guess
timber viper
remote can provide up to $50/hr or maybe even a little more if you are senior, why would a senior both work at office and for a lesser money 
proud jay
in the ultimate scenario that would end up with everyone in turkey being employed in america, and all americans to be unemployed or something
but the target market would also be america, but if everyone there is unemployed no one to buy stuff, so not money to pay turks
timber viper
lmao how so
I just want some belgian fries not cause economic catasthrope around globe
proud jay
it's a complicated thing
proud jay
but does it make sense to pay one employee enough to just survive in america, and another employee the same in turkey but they can buy 5 houses per month
idk
timber viper
remote can provide up to $50/hr or maybe even a little more if you are senior, w...
real question is this
proud jay
well you don't have to
it's just that local offices tend to pay salaries based on local cost of living, cause technically it would also "output" to that local market, although be it more global these days but like in that trend
timber viper
but while there are only a few people exist that they can hire in here, and all of us think the same - they'll probably move people from EU to here and still pay EU rates because why would any European accept Turkey rates
I mostly wonder with this dilemma how they will hire people
proud jay
by having job openings I guess?
timber viper
by having job openings I guess?
so which book you are reading these days
proud jay
hmm at the moment "Blindness" by Jose Saramago
but can't say I'm a big fan of it
the only reason I haven't quit reading it yet is cause I got it from the mother of my gf
timber viper
are you afraid of saying "i didnt read" if she asks? ๐
proud jay
no
but she was so enthusiastic about it
don't wanna break her heart
I'm halfway through though
it's something
it has broken my habit of reading a bit though
but the book before that was already doing that tbh cause I also didn't like it as much
that was "Fairy Tale" by Stephen King
it started of good but really went downhill towards the middle
the guy is overrated imo
I've read 2 books of him now
they're ok at best
although I haven't read his classic horror
maybe that's just better
timber viper
I don't think I've ever read any horror book yet
do they actually scare people
or more like thriller
proud jay
I think like actually scaring
idk though
can't say I've read one that scared me
but then again I'm pretty apathic in general
proud jay
are you terrorised yet
foggy path
Not yet, I only read a few pages
proud jay
is this book sexist?
foggy path
It's british humor so who knows what's in it lol
Garth Marenghi is a fictional author, they also did a TV show a long time ago called Garth Marenghi's Darkplace which was very entertaining and had a great cast including Matt Berry and Richard Ayoade
foggy path
have you seen The IT Crowd?
foggy path
lol really
timber viper
I found it to be really unfunny and stopped watching
same
foggy path
anyway Ayoade and Berry are both in that, might be the one where most people would know them from
foggy path
Yeah I couldn't get into the UK office either but I found IT Crowd was really funny
proud jay
then I watched the office US, and I also hated the first 2 episodes, but after that loved it
foggy path
foggy path
Yeah the laughtrack is a bit so so lol
sweet rose
I've been using this app called Blue Light Filter, it's pretty amazing
The screen is super easy on the eyes now
warm bloom
I always have that on
sweet rose
proud jay
I've been using this app called Blue Light Filter, it's pretty amazing
windows has this built in
sweet rose
I always have that on
I love that it has different types of filters too
proud jay
it's called night light
warm bloom
usually most phones have a night light mode that isn't as intense
proud jay
iphone also has it built in
sweet rose
windows has this built in
Mobile doesn't
sweet rose
iphone also has it built in
Oh
warm bloom
sweet rose
iphone also has it built in
Android does too but it's not as customisable
warm bloom
so does Android
sweet rose
This one is super customisable
proud jay
my gf once designed a christmas card with her filter turned on
she sent it to me for some edits
and the colors looked like barf
sweet rose
sweet rose
and the colors looked like barf
What color is barf
proud jay
depends what you eat
sweet rose
๐
proud jay
so when are you moving to Chad?
bleak remnant
my gf once designed a christmas card with her filter turned on
fake story; programmers don't have girlfriends
proud jay
you want to apply to just any job that exists?
bleak remnant
you want to apply to just any job that exists?
money is money
proud jay
fake story; programmers don't have girlfriends
true, she's actually my fiancee
sweet rose
4 braincells?
I don't know, they don't tell me
bleak remnant
๐คทโโ๏ธ
proud jay
I don't know, they don't tell me
rip, never Chad
sweet rose
Chadistan
sweet rose
the capital of Chad is actually N'Djamena
That's fake Chad
proud jay
no u
proud jay
where is it though
sweet rose
I don't know, they don't tell me
proud jay
soup is goud
sweet rose
Crab soup ๐คค
proud jay
why do you have to ruin everything
sweet rose
๐คฃ
proud jay
damn I misspelled Attribute as Attirube in my PR
there's a whole letter missing from that
and literally none in the right spot after att
sweet rose
dieter moment
zinc matrix
dietribute
fluid bloom
Olkiluoto 3 reactor is increasing power output and no delays yet? Suspicious
scroll down a bit for the graph
proud jay
I'm not finnish
primal summit
Olkiluoto 3 reactor is increasing power output and no delays yet? Suspicious
why suspicious?
fluid bloom
because it's only 15 years or so late
primal summit
ahh
zinc matrix
Hey sup guys, do you know a pack for snowboarding animations ?
mossy nexus
nope
fleet tangle
That's pretty damn niche.
white oxide
do yall know stuff that would help making a top down RTS lite?
like 8 units, 8 buildings and 2 players
curious if theres something that could help build it
proud jay
yeah
you could use this indie game engine
it's called unreal engine
heard good things of it
zinc matrix
i played that game called grounded. that was full of bugs.
white oxide
so the game about being as big as bugs in the back yard filled with bugs... had actual bugs in it?
carmine frigate
i have actual bugs in my garden
proud jay
I think it was a joke
white oxide
im very much aware
celest musk
I think it was a joke
no way
carmine frigate
if the whole economy collapses i have my own supply of bugs i can eat
carmine frigate
supply
proud jay
but like a cute name
proud jay
you want a suppy of shrooms?
carmine frigate
thats a suppy
white oxide
im sure dieter has personal knowledge of shoving things up his butt
carmine frigate
king D4 too ass
white oxide
i mean a cremated person would be easier to shove up a butt
proud jay
it's nice and warm
carmine frigate
a creamated ๐
proud jay
there sure was some form of cream
carmine frigate
cursive crypt
https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-red-gif-18759250
These were cool as a kid.
sweet rose
decriminalize DMT
proud jay
ok
tulip orbit
broken sigil
Please....
carmine frigate
sweet rose
can i habe cream please
proud jay
can i habe cream please
proud jay
Please....
is this please stop or please I want to be creamed like in the gif
and what if it was a catgirl instead
unborn lotus
These were cool as a kid.
Never seen one in years. I think they got rid of them because they were giving people stomach infections lol
proud jay
wtf are you guys putting in your ice cream
unborn lotus
Idk what do you put in yours
broken sigil
is this please stop or please I want to be creamed like in the gif
it's please stop ๐ฅฒ
sweet rose
Never seen one in years. I think they got rid of them because they were giving p...
wut
broken sigil
and what if it was a catgirl instead
unborn lotus
wut
They couldn't assure the icecream was safe, I mean it's on the street, hot summer, etc. They got rid of coffee machines too (they have to be inside a shop)
proud jay
in what ghetto are you buying ice cream
unborn lotus
the whole country is the ghetto duh
sweet rose
They couldn't assure the icecream was safe, I mean it's on the street, hot summe...
That kind of "softie" icecream is mostly bought in mcdonalds where i live
sweet rose
it's the only thing i buy from mickey d's if i ever eat there
unborn lotus
I love the mc breakfast
The mc icecream machines can be cleaned a lot easier I imagine then some huge thing on the street
proud jay
I heard you used to be able to buy mc intosh there
sweet rose
I actually liked fillet o fish until i read it was unhygienic ๐ฅน
why don't people love seafood more
sweet rose
seafood gross
it's the biggest source of food for most of the world
proud jay
does that make it less gross?
sweet rose
yes
proud jay
how
sweet rose
what makes it gross
proud jay
eating dog shit does not become less gross if my neighbour decides to eat it
sweet rose
๐คฃ
almost spat out my water
it's tasty and nutritious
what else do you want
and there's unlimited variety
proud jay
now you're just lying
sweet rose
every fish tastes different
proud jay
it's not tasty at all
sweet rose
it's not tasty at all
what ghetto are you eating seafood at
sweet rose
your fish is probably shite
proud jay
scampi is good though
sweet rose
i haven't eaten pacific or atlantic fish
ancient ingot
scampi is eww
proud jay
well I live pretty close to the north sea
proud jay
scampi is eww
raw is disgusting, but cooked or on the barbie is good
ancient ingot
๐คฎ
sweet rose
I could kill for this
proud jay
bro
proud jay
why you need 6kg of rice
proud jay
just to flush the disgusting taste of the fish?
sweet rose
carbs
proud jay
that doesn't even look like fish anymore
sweet rose
and this drink
proud jay
the fact that you need 7 different dips to get it down says enough
unborn lotus
Best fish I ever had was fished in the countryside local pond by myself lol. Very tasty but almost no meat and a ton of bones
sweet rose
the fact that you need 7 different dips to get it down says enough
it's not a dip it's curry
unborn lotus
Just eat salmon or some garlic shrimps delicious
sweet rose
each fish has its own curry
sweet rose
Best fish I ever had was fished in the countryside local pond by myself lol. Ver...
usually the ones with more bones are said to be more delicious
i don't agree though
proud jay
they're all equally shit
unborn lotus
They really were. We dug the worms ourselves and used sticks to fish them
But I can't eat commercial fish
Most are pretty tasteless
Salmon or cod are good
Marinated hering
Also delicious
sweet rose
agree
proud jay
I once had salmon that I almost didn't feel like throwing up
sweet rose
cod is okayish tho
sweet rose
I once had salmon that I almost didn't feel like throwing up
how do you cook fish
sweet rose
so you can't judge seafood
sweet rose
because they don't cook it
proud jay
idk depends on what you're making
sweet rose
salmon
proud jay
cooking in pan or oven or fry that shit or on bbq
sweet rose
๐ฅธ
steel summit
Or raw make some sushi out of it
proud jay
thanks I don't want salmonella
sweet rose
thanks I don't want salmonella
bruh
steel summit
thanks I don't want salmonella
Itโs okay you can stick with your jar of Nutella instead
proud jay
yeah that shit is good
sweet rose
okay you have some taste lmao
proud jay
fish is just shit, no way around it
steel summit
Well farmed fish are essentially eating their own shit. They donโt swim around much to avoid eating where they poop and thereโs no current moving the water. Wild fish is 10x better.
proud jay
pangasius is even grown in sewage
sweet rose
Well farmed fish are essentially eating their own shit. They donโt swim around m...
thanks though, i won't eat farmed fish when i travel ๐
carmine frigate
you prolly wouldnt know
sweet rose
pangasius is even grown in sewage
mushrooms are grown on horse shit
carmine frigate
farmed salmon is allright
steel summit
Thatโs how they get ya
sweet rose
papaya is grown on human poop in some places
steel summit
Almost all vegetables are grown with manure which is also poop
This convo took a dark turn to a sticky smelly areaโฆ
sweet rose
๐
carmine frigate
cows shit on the grass they eat
proud jay
mushrooms are grown on horse shit
good thing I don't eat mushrooms eitehr
sweet rose
good thing I don't eat mushrooms eitehr
ancient ingot
proud jay
league of legend bronze league salt
carmine frigate
unborn lotus
Snail gang disapproves
warm bloom
*backed by slug gang
mossy nexus
Same thing, a slug is just a snail without a house... ๐
warm bloom
that is blasphemy
bleak remnant
papaya is grown on human poop in some places
Oh I'm in a few Undertale servers so I thought I clicked onto one and you were being weird lol
????
wintry skiff
is ue5 useable on Linux ?
stop spamming
deft smelt
stop spamming
alr โค๏ธ
dusky kettle
Starting a new job at another studio in two weeks and Iโm off until then. But Iโm bored as hell every day due to no routine or anything to think of
Any tips what I can pick up?
deft smelt
useles server
zinc matrix
drink beer and watch tv
zinc matrix
well.. from what ive heard in this channel, two weeks should be enough to make souls-like open world mmo as solo project
unborn lotus
Pick up cycling
dusky kettle
That sounds awesome, I wish it was summer though. Sweden is full of snow atm
I played a game of league after some months off, no joy of playing that game anymore ๐คฃ
zinc matrix
buy zwift ๐
unborn lotus
Zwift is pretty cool
But you also need a cool bike with a powermeter
And alp'd'zwift every day for two weeks
dusky kettle
Oh damn, I do a lot of spinning at the gym
zinc matrix
i discovered it few weeks ago, it looked cool
unreal ether
useles server
people might not want to answer you if you keep spamming. its annoying
unreal ether
you cant ask for help and when you dont instantly get a response, lose your cool
whats swift?
zwift*
unborn lotus
It's virtual cycling
zinc matrix
its a fun mmo game ๐
fathom wadi
not only did he rage at lounge.... he never even googled "unreal engine linux". I mean, those people are the kind of folk who only succeed in failing spectacularly.
fathom wadi
haven't played Hitman games since Blood Money. I keep meaning to but then I don't much like stealth games ๐
dusky kettle
Iโd consider buying Hitman 3. I didnโt play any of the new ones, but now Iโve played 75h due to the new game mode
All the maps are incredibly big and Iโve played a lot of them many times, but still find new stuff to do in them.
fathom wadi
I remember spending an entire weekend, curtains closed, bong at the side of my computer chair, and I played Hitman 1 all weekend with Godspeed ! You Black Emperor! playing on loop. Perfect soundtrack for that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy4IsC5eb7o perfection.
unborn lotus
It was coney island
dusky kettle
I remember spending an entire weekend, curtains closed, bong at the side of my c...
Psychedelic horror western music, I loved this album
fathom wadi
it's technically called Cinescape but yeah you could define it like that too in this case ๐
the East Hastings track they used in 28 days later is beautiful too
dusky kettle
Why arenโt there more western games or like games about the mayans/aztecs? Would be cool as heck
fathom wadi
there was that western game that released recent. The horror based one
dusky kettle
Literally no game about them
Oh yes that one
But mayans/aztecs have literally no game about them
And they have some cool fucking shit
fathom wadi
It was kind of like the first game I worked on called The Haunted Hell's Reach. Similar feel
dusky kettle
It was kind of like the first game I worked on called The Haunted Hell's Reach. ...
I think Iโve played that back in the day
Looks familiar
Was it made with UE3?
fathom wadi
Funny you should say about Mayans. I was recently going through my emulator collection and an old Sinclair Spectrum and Acorn Electron game I used to play was called Total Eclipse. It was based in a pyramid with loads of puzzles and traps. I thought maybe that would be good in the setting of Machu Picchu or something
yeah it was UE3 but had a license so not just UDK
dusky kettle
Funny you should say about Mayans. I was recently going through my emulator col...
Any north/south/central american indian history is very much missing in games
fathom wadi
Uncharted did some which was nice.
fathom wadi
yeah great movie. I never expected to like it much. I am a film snob though so I had to watch it to have an opinion I could use on the internet ๐ But it was excellent.
Another setting I think would be amazing for a video game is the Walled City of Kowloon. Imagine a Raid like rogue-lite trying to get out of there.
dusky kettle
When I was in Mexico, we went down in the caves. The local guide said the spaniards use to go down there and get lost, then the fires would go out and couldnโt see a thing and would eventually die.
unreal ether
It's virtual cycling
oh wow. sounds like a convenient way to make excercise bikes more interesting
dusky kettle
Another setting I think would be amazing for a video game is the Walled City of ...
That is urban hell
Just googled that
Iโd feel trapped living there
fathom wadi
same but then I live in a house with 6 other people and spend most of my time in one room in front of my pc. I can't see it being any different anywhere else in the world where I'm left alone to my own devices.
for all it's worth I am internet based so the real world is just a distraction between sessions ๐
time for a brew and some self-medication. #420_Loves_coffee
primal summit
When I was in Mexico, we went down in the caves. The local guide said the spania...
accidents happen, man...
mossy nexus
time for a brew and some self-medication. #420_Loves_coffee
Eww that's completely unnecessary .. coffee.. ๐คข
fathom wadi
I only drink one cup a day when I'm not taking medicinals. But when I do I have to have a few a day or my blood sugar crashes and I prefer the coffee to sucking down chocolate bars really.
not an energy drink person either. They all taste like cough syrup and aspartame to me
unreal ether
Another setting I think would be amazing for a video game is the Walled City of ...
im pretty sure Call of Duty: Black ops 1 had a couple of singleplayer missions and multiplayer maps there. Was a very fun pace
fathom wadi
yeah I was sure I'd seen it before somewhere too. But the wife and I were talking once about good environments for games and she pointed out TWCOK and my imagination lit up. There is a prototype I made once that was two buildings in a "projects" type area, that were inhabited by gangs who would raid each other. Like a capture the flag map but less linear than the usual 3-5 chokepoints. So I started to apply it to that and it just felt like a perfect alternative environment
especially after you see the Dredd movie and how similar that is too
sweet rose
Oh I'm in a few Undertale servers so I thought I clicked onto one and you were b...
What ๐
bleak remnant
idk
unreal ether
yeah I was sure I'd seen it before somewhere too. But the wife and I were talki...
I personally think it would be a great setting for a mirror's edge style parkour shooter
fast paced run n gun parkour multiplayer
fathom wadi
indeed
unreal ether
games really need more interesting envrionements. everything now is just clones of open worlds.
like damn why cant we go back to searching for artifacts in the tomb of king midas, or opening norse hell portals.
pearl elk
Scorn was super interesting
warm bloom
Scorn was super interesting
baby blender turned me off
pearl elk
NYC is more of a turn off ๐
slate orbit
I could kill for this
Oh my god, get me one
warm bloom
I didn't even know about the games existence and it was the first thing I saw
honestly the majority of video games don't need to stick to realistic environments that end up feeling familiar unless they're trying to achieve realism
you can quite easily make your own art style
especially larger studios with a budget
sweet rose
Oh my god, get me one
Sure, if you come here ๐
slate orbit
Where?
sweet rose
Mumbai
slate orbit
Oh man, I need a passport first, but I'll let you know