which platform are you trying to build for?
#lounge
celest musk
slim atlas
windows 10
i got the sdk
netframework
i reinstalled the engine twice
i put config to shipping
in 2 segments
i made a launch profile, which actually works
but when i package the normal way, with shipping... it returns a debug build
i see my prints and i have the console
its clearly a development build
celest musk
is it rebuilding, or just packaging what you have build before?
celest musk
idk
i just wonder if it compiles, or if it just packages
if it just packages it might be worth a shot to move that folder, yea
slim atlas
its odd but i get the idea
it my fall back on old shipping setups that i copied
i let it rebuild full
celest musk
you are odd
celest musk
celest musk
thing i dont know what all to delete
you could start with discord
slim atlas
i hit the full rebuild button now
celest musk
good luck
slim atlas
it should remake all the libs
it didnt work again!
i am gonna throw my desk out of my window
fuck what is wrong
celest musk
btw. i just noticed
you all got that orca animation bundle ripped asset drama, right?
actually it appears that another of the free packs (https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/magic-spell-sounds-pro/) also used stolen stuff
and they apparently removed it from the free for a month already
celest musk
Please stop using this asset pack as it contains stolen files from our RPG Magic Sound Effects Pack 3 [ELEMENTAL] and likely other existing magic sound packs.
We listened to their magic demo track and realized they took our magic sounds and repackaged them into two audio bundles: Magic Sound Pro (since June 2021) and Magic Spells Sound Effect (probably since 2019, also part of a Fantasy bundle). So we filed a DMCA takedown on YouTube, Unity, and Unreal Engine Marketplace.
slim atlas
yes but i still have the animation bundle
well no
i didnt claim it
but its still showing on my page
slim atlas
well as i said
the evidence is more shoddy then telling
and epic seems to agree with me
so they didnt remove it
celest musk
epic doesn't care until someone does an DMCA
celest musk
and how do yo do a DMCA for animations
same as for any other digital good
north dragon
Just to make sure you guys know we're serious about Rider, here's our development build splash
slim atlas
yes its cool
but my fucking game still wont package properly
and ride wont help me with that
i am losing my marbles
celest musk
is that a puppy of one of the JB team?
north dragon
is that a puppy of one of the JB team?
It's our QA lead's pupper
celest musk
the whole marketplace situation is annoying me... how does one buy assets these days without risking to get into legal troubles? RenderHub had the same drama going on ๐ญ
unborn lotus
you just have to buy my assets exclusively, problem solved
timber viper
Just to make sure you guys know we're serious about Rider, here's our developmen...
This is awesome
slim atlas
you just have to buy my assets exclusively, problem solved
you dont have assets.
proud jay
but my fucking game still wont package properly
if only there was a channel dedicated to #packaging
slim atlas
if only there was a channel dedicated to <#402958499660955658>
NOONE IS LOOKING tHERE
at least noone experienced enough
unborn lotus
you dont have assets.
that's right. pieces of art is more suited
celest musk
maybe ask at a place where people are that actually released a game
like a mental home
celest musk
or on a roblox server
celest musk
i hope you'll never figure it out
slim atlas
this isnt a consent thing ^^
proud jay
what
slim atlas
i had it
am gonna install debug symbols now
the test just now proved that it isnt a cache issue
the engine itself has a problemo
and i will try to package an empty
slim atlas
may i remind you of your joke yesterday while the earthquake disaster was on
celest musk
and i will try to package an empty
wait, your project has content?!
slim atlas
we were all a bit shaken by that
soft night
the project need to concent that lady is real
cursive crypt
we were all a bit shaken by that
slim atlas
https://tenor.com/view/bunny-shake-it-smiling-gif-15793574
you really should go to hell for that joke
really
cursive crypt
It is not unheard of, Doom's guy went to hell because of his bunny.
slim atlas
i just think you deserve the whip
celest musk
okay, i'm curious. what is this from?
cursive crypt
i just think you deserve the whip
Not my kink ๐ค
celest musk
this looks wrong but cute
slim atlas
Not my kink ๐ค
you still deserve it
inland oriole
Just to make sure you guys know we're serious about Rider, here's our developmen...
LOL
soft night
mine is from year hare affair
proud jay
okay, i'm curious. what is this from?
year hare affair
says in the link
damn I need to learn to read to the end before saying something
proud jay
You guys gonna play hogwarts legacy or you haters?
cursive crypt
Doubt. If 75%+ discount and gf wants to.
And I'm in a mood.
And is not cringe.
And have free time.
And there is nothing else to play ๐ค
Or work at.
Yeah, why not.
unborn lotus
I heard it's pretty good but it's a time sink...who has 80+ hours to spare
celest musk
I heard it's pretty good but it's a time sink...who has 80+ hours to spare
me, but 80+ sounds like grind
unborn lotus
Ok, only 30 for the campaign and 70 for all the stuff
proud jay
my pronouns are who/where
you already made this joke yesterday
I hate long games
everyone making game 100 hours
I don't have the time
somewhere between 8-20 is ideal for me
celest musk
nothing bad about long games
slim atlas
you already made this joke yesterday
i hate you
proud jay
I don't have the power to commit to that
celest musk
cyberpunk has like 100h playtime and i didn't feel bored
proud jay
it has to be really engaging though
slim atlas
i hate you too zeus
proud jay
nog ubi shit like fetch quests and doing the same thing 200 times
acoustic otter
Where's the best place if you're looking for teammates / collaborators?
Not paid work
slim atlas
i hate work
proud jay
acoustic otter
Ty @proud jay
slim atlas
i hate dieter
proud jay
you already said that
unborn lotus
cyberpunk has like 100h playtime and i didn't feel bored
I finished cyberpunk in 20 and it was looong ๐
slim atlas
I finished cyberpunk in 20 and it was looong ๐
wait till you play the upcoming dlc
celest musk
I finished cyberpunk in 20 and it was looong ๐
yea, the main mission is like 20h, but you can be busy for a while with all the cop/cyberpsycho things
and taxi missions
unborn lotus
I did the taxi missions and some extra stuff too. Could not romance anybody though, Panam rejected me ๐
cursive crypt
Was 80h for me, all the content.
slim atlas
forget what ben said
play the side missions!!!
there are story sidequests
they are really good
celest musk
and hump panam
slim atlas
and put ben on your ignore list
unborn lotus
The longest I've spent on a game is Pathfinder Kingmaker at 68
celest musk
you missed the actual content bro
unborn lotus
I finished Deadspace in 14, next up is stalker 2 if/when it comes out
slim atlas
you will pay for that
celest musk
i just want to play tropico5 but it wont work ๐ญ
unborn lotus
But why an owl?
proud jay
I can pay you in blocks
proud jay
you can join the blockchain of my blocked people on discord
slim atlas
FUCK
slim atlas
But why an owl?
i am owl
slim atlas
tatas
tulip orbit
a lot of people were shaken
celest musk
-.-
tulip orbit
pretty sure I'm the one that told the terrible joke, but ok
celest musk
and you jumped on the dumb train as if it was yours
tulip orbit
tulip orbit
^ when I visited your mom last night
she was wearing the .... actually nvm
slim atlas
https://tenor.com/view/train-tunnel-pounding-gif-23871774
thats nsfw
i give you a warning.
proud jay
what are you warning me about
tulip orbit
its only nsfw if you have a dirty mind
proud jay
that my life might improve too much if I block you?
tulip orbit
otherwise its just terrible engineering
celest musk
otherwise its just terrible engineering
it's pretty awesome engineering
if a train can penetrate a tunnel like that
tulip orbit
true
proud jay
true
celest musk
isn't that how subways etc. are made anyways?
proud jay
isn't that how subways etc. are made anyways?
no subways are made with bread and toppings
celest musk
proud jay
https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/
it's like chatgpt but with actual internet access
celest musk
the tunnel thing is probably one of the most impressive large scale machines/concepts i've seen
proud jay
it goes brrr
celest musk
they even have a solution for pouring concrete on the ceiling
tulip orbit
I think its more of a mixture than a solution
proud jay
true
cursive crypt
guys, ~~free~~ assets released
These cost money, nice try.
unborn lotus
engine update available too, is it christmas already?
5.2 ??
zinc matrix
its not telling me anything other than its 18gb
celest musk
yea, they're also not discounted yet, good catch
and the bank interior was part of Modern City Downtown with Interiors Megapack which was free a while ago
cursive crypt
vfx looks kinda interesting, the rest are so so
unborn lotus
Leartes is cheating the system ๐
cursive crypt
It is the new approach: Paid for the Month
celest musk
at least i have faith in them not ripping other peoples stuff
cursive crypt
Depends on who they outsource to, sometimes the presentation is not good.
I remember one pack everyone yelling at them to provide some sensible screenshots - they were acting just offended.
unborn lotus
Those are motivating to me, I could do better
cursive crypt
wtf, why is the navmesh not generating (โฏยฐโกยฐ)โฏ๏ธต โปโโป
zinc matrix
5.1.1, dont see any news about it yet
soft night
https://www.reddit.com/r/Astroneer/comments/vz366g/probably_the_first_rollercoaster_ever_created_in/
proud jay
honest siren
hi
cursive crypt
Lol https://twitter.com/iamjitsu/status/1622636782067290112?s=46&t=lY1QHnDDAr7pl...
I don't get it.
celest musk
glasshouse told him indirectly that his wage was shit
zinc matrix
honest siren
There was a big earthquake in Turkey, there are thousands of dead and destroyed buildings.
Do you mind if I share OFFICIAL donation links?
cursive crypt
glasshouse told him indirectly that his wage was shit
Thought their real one was actually too big.
cursive crypt
There was a big earthquake in Turkey, there are thousands of dead and destroyed ...
Doubt someone minds, but you better DM the mods.
honest siren
@broken sigil
celest musk
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vs16rm8iyss
the comments on this are the real gold
As a professional finger painter I'm telling you right now, this dude knows what he's doing
cursive crypt
<@261183265438695424>
DM - Direct message, Orange Man left, lol
zinc matrix
old news
inland oriole
It was released 2 hours ago though ๐
forest sparrow
deep raptor
Guys Hello! I have a very big problem with Quixel Mixer and I need your help. At some point I deleted a downloaded texture that is used in the project from the local library, after that some glitch happened and now I have no textures loaded at all in the online tab. I have reinstalled the program several times, cleaned all cache folders and all references to the program on the computer, restarted the computer, reinstalled the program again, re-read all forums and support and nothing helps.
slim atlas
Guys Hello! I have a very big problem with Quixel Mixer and I need your help. At...
odd question
deep raptor
odd question
What do you mean?
deep raptor
Maybe I chose the wrong channel for this question?
slim atlas
lounge is definitly the wrong channel for serious questions.
were all trolls here
but quixel mixer is generally wrong on this server
deep raptor
Okay, what channel should I use?
deep raptor
Yeah, I just thought it should be related, sorry
celest musk
it's not wrong, but also not right
this is a very specific problem, your chances are really better at some quixel community (if there is one)
soft night
thin aspen
I wish I could search a channel for a video on YouTube rather than the entirety of YouTube
turbid spindleBOT
:question: is quixel mixer good?
:8ball: My reply is no.
:question: is quixel cool?
:8ball: Cannot predict now.
:question: the quixel or the dead?
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
:question: can you stop
:8ball: It is certain.
:question: Is manny wrong about that?
:8ball: Ask again later.
:question: can you stop lawdy?
:8ball: Signs point to yes.
fleet tangle
In other news, Postmodern Jukebox is still rockin' it.
unborn lotus
I like the clown guy collabs
soft night
fleet tangle
I like the clown guy collabs
Puddles is fantastic! His Chandelier cover was great.
unborn lotus
Haley is the star still ๐
unborn lotus
I think they did the world tour last year, sadly could not go
fleet tangle
๐ฆ
zinc matrix
celest musk
me solving my vector math problems^
unborn lotus
"solving"
celest musk
hey i figured that one out
even tho it took me a minute or two
and i'm kinda sure that i had something similar going on in my project already ๐
which probably took me longer
proud jay
thick oracle
zinc matrix
the other ones ive found are smaller and less active
one that they promoted in forums shared pirated assets...
slim atlas
ive hit a problem that that noone can solve
slim atlas
this really stressing me out
timber viper
what it is
slim atlas
what it is?
lofty lark
what it is
it is
zinc matrix
unborn lotus
Post on the forums, but with a wrong solution
unborn lotus
It is what it is
slim atlas
its my money and my future on the line!
unborn lotus
Try making friends with some ue experts
slim atlas
yes
unborn lotus
I had a packaging problem too one time...I ended up scrapping the whole project and never touched it again forever
zinc matrix
i package often, so if i do something that breaks it, its easier to track down
slim atlas
yee thats my philosphy too
make sure the project is always clean and fully functional
i tested since day 1
slim atlas
no
celest musk
why?
slim atlas
on pc i always packaged with the windows builder
and that worked until i switched pc
yesterday
celest musk
this weirdo standalone tool from github?
celest musk
yea but why
zinc matrix
do you have VS and its required workloads and all the dotnet thingies installed?
if its new pc, maybe you forgot
celest musk
and Project Settings => Packaging => Build Configuration is set to what?
slim atlas
sort of? i mean i installed it all
its not giving any errors or warnings
shipping ofc ben
full distribution
celest musk
i feel like the project launcher is more convenient
when it comes to setting up profiles etc.
cursive crypt
Still packaging
slim atlas
i never used the command line builder
so i have no idea how this works
i can launch the game by the way
and that gives out shipping builds
celest musk
sure it is
fleet mica
chat gpt got it right
it is supposed to be a greentext but it didnt quite got the > right
slim atlas
celest musk
for me they are in ProjectDirectory/Saved/Cooked
but idk about superior windows, might be somewhere else
cursive crypt
Ben, don't you get it? Go help the lady.
celest musk
at least they can package, somewhat
slim atlas
no this doesnt work :/
celest musk
i know that some of my code wont work in runtime, therefor i don't even care to package atm
celest musk
i guess
pearl elk
full exception trace
celest musk
are you using a source build?
celest musk
well, they shouldn't affect your build?!
celest musk
is your profile maybe screwed?
slim atlas
how can it
slim atlas
thx for trying
pearl elk
I think you have Stormtroopers building your game
celest musk
but i would check the log it told you it made
and run the whole thing again
for me that sometimes solved stuff
pearl elk
From hence forth Lawdy will be known as filiz
slim atlas
i am greek
my name is Filizitas
i just the build to work
i will carefully test the main branch now
celest musk
wtf is wrong with you?
i would rather stick to 5.2 branch then
which is basically main at this point, but will sometimes in the future stabilize
slim atlas
the main branch i meant my main project.
pearl elk
one branch to rule them all, CD mustardrice
All I can think is the Stormtroopers building your game cant hit the target
soft night
do or donot there is no try
celest musk
wait what?
pearl elk
filiz operates best with an emotional support bunny
celest musk
that wasn't my goal
celest musk
Packaging Lead Director
Ben
i hashed the arguments
filled everything out
was fucking awful
i hate this
but then it shipped like it should.
this wiki is awesome
pearl elk
and its unplayable ๐
slim atlas
and what was my role?
you prompted me to look over project launcher again
how the project grew in 2 months
cursive crypt
one branch to rule them all, CD mustardrice
Mustard?
celest musk
i would still try to investigate what unreal launches when you run the build from within unreal
celest musk
there might be some tool for the superior OS which shows what commandline was used to spawn it
slim atlas
you saved my butt
cursive crypt
pearl elk
cmon Lead Packaging Director, you can do it!
cursive crypt
warm bloom
its epic actually
oh yeah isn't that convenient epic doing something wrong
never heard of that before
obtuse sundial
Yo everybody !
someone have some link to videos about rig broken or animation fail ? i wanna show my students what can happen XD
timber viper
my name is Filizitas
is that even a real name
timber viper
but AI clearly just ignores the player 
/s
https://youtu.be/gN1l-TZTwm0
pearl elk
Id be more concerned with the AIs powers of levitation
celest musk
do better, then complain
pearl elk
do better, then complain
Footage is 2 years old, Im sure it looks way better now ๐
zinc matrix
verbal heron
Does anybody know why everytime I try to open the Epic Games Lancher on my Imac it does not open like I click it and click it. And it does nothing please help, Thank you.
pearl elk
https://twitter.com/simesgreen/status/1623037814400028695
That actually reminds me of a game I saw the other day which looked interesting called Viewfinder
proud jay
Win streak is over boys ๐
frozen blade
I am making my first menu and it certainly is a menu
still building not sure if it even works but that's half the fun
frozen blade
it does not work, now the exploring begins
worldly mesa
my phone just 'updated' to android 12. they have removed the onscreen keyboard and only allow voice typing through a google service
timber viper
Win streak is over boys ๐
OnurDede is back huh /s
pearl elk
Google Bard, well thats a name alright
I'll give it acouple of months before its on Killed by Google
primal summit
my phone just 'updated' to android 12. they have removed the onscreen keyboard a...
wtf?
worldly mesa
It wont let me install APK!
Nor does it give me an option to force it to let me. I am in developer mode already
This had made me sick. be back later. Thanks @ Kor
oblique cloak
@broken sigil 3 hours in and finally ๐ฆ Sadge
It's a token limit, not necessarily a prompt limit
In my case it's usually 25-30 prompts in one go per hour```
gusty star
I think I'm dumb because Unity has been way way way easier for me to learn vs something like Paper2D and it makes me feel dumb.
timid relic
gusty star
Is Paper2D just poorly documented or something? or am I really, 4real, dum dum?
gusty star
s a d
ah really?
I get you, interesting.
I guess I'm probably better off just making 3d games in Unreal lol
like the 3d as 2d is an option but
idk
ah
slim atlas
OY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME
slim atlas
but AI clearly just ignores the player <:PandaOhNo:871549881871925281> /s
https:...
that
good memories...
my god
blast from the past
thats how i made my first money
timber viper
by making AI ignore the player?
damn I had to read Alien Isolation behavior tree and mock it for a prototype in three weeks to earn my first money
slim atlas
you should actually play the demo ๐
timber viper
is it available
timber viper
I'll download after my work hours finished today
hope its not scary though
I hate horror games
slim atlas
๐
timber viper
too interactive
slim atlas
this isnt my best work
oblique cloak
To many sounds and vfx to make your spine shiver.
timber viper
If I play I'll judge your AI a lot btw ๐
timber viper
I cant stop being nerdy about it since its in my interest area
slim atlas
AI?
timber viper
the ai is shit
Highly sensible and interactive AI
so you lied?
timber viper
well at least I cant trash talk about graphics and lighting
you have some skill on that
slim atlas
wow
pearl elk
aww why cancelled
slim atlas
what
pearl elk
700 hrs
timber viper
didnt know Glinn was working on skyrim
soft night
slim atlas
2 hours
timber viper
2 hours is not bad for a dem
broken sigil
zinc matrix
proud jay
https://filly-the-owl.itch.io/delightfyl-demo-2
what kind of game is it? it's blocked on my office network
proud jay
someone buy me Hogwarts. i will love you forever.
sorry, already bought it for my gf, am broke now
foggy path
proud jay
the hogwats legacy "boycot" is kinda dumb
JK already got paid
and she really doesn't care
she has enough money
the only person you're annoying is yourself
people buy clothes made in sweat shops all the time
solid aurora
I bought 2 delux editions
it's best game since I have played Mass Effect
people who are trying to cancel it, should just get a life
any life
enough said i played it from 7pm to 4 am -;-
and im not even HP fan
solid aurora
yes
solid aurora
I'd say HL is everything that Forespoken tried to be and failed
proud jay
forespoken looked like shit through from the streams I've seen
not the graphics, but the writing
like at the ending where it's just literally walking from point to point where they show you some dialog explaining things
solid aurora
well I don't care about story
I liked forespoken
the gameplay was nice, i liked the way they solved leveling, also spells were nice
my main problem with the game is.. it looked like the spend 5 years developing engine
and forgot about game
proud jay
the main character is also so unlikeable though
proud jay
but I haven't played it myself so can't judge that much
solid aurora
and more random boss encounters to have a reason to use all those spells
because it started like yeeeeeww next gen diablo with spells
proud jay
but HL is good game so far?
solid aurora
and stopped right at spells, with pretty bland world, no enemies to use that spells on, no character customization.. literrly nothing
I played it for 7 hours straight
I don't remember when it was last time
i played something for more than hour
unborn lotus
but HL is good game so far?
let's just call it something other than HL
solid aurora
i love the gameplay, exploration
and there is enoug of character customization to not complain,
proud jay
let's just call it something other than HL
we can can it HoLe
slim atlas
shoot it XD
slim atlas
what kind of game is it? it's blocked on my office network
i see, good product is forbidden at your work :3
so sad
proud jay
doesn't get through the absolute garbage filter
slim atlas
doesn't get through the absolute garbage filter
cursive crypt
and she really doesn't care
I couldn't care less about HP too, so it is mutual.
ancient ingot
๐ฒ
proud jay
where โ
fading mulch
dumb question, lets say i make a project and already work on a game. can i still add marketplace stuff to the project or does it have to be before you start anything
fading mulch
ok
fleet tangle
Honestly, I would create an empty project for each marketplace item and add them to it. Then you can examine exactly what it does, the assets it uses, etc in isolation.
And if you like them, add them to your project.
(you can just copy+paste stuff from the marketplace's content folder to your project's own)
fluid bloom
someone made a seven minute tutorial for how to use a float variable in UE
seven minutes???
proud jay
you have to learn why they float and don't sink
fluid bloom
fathom wadi
I set up my drum pads on my keyboard to do that roll because I dont use drum pads so I had to get some use out of them ๐
yes
lol
atomic acorn
xD
fathom wadi
I've bashed out some seeds before now. But seriously.... I've got a dozen games as a service I try keep up with ๐
cursive crypt
lol
cursive crypt
someone made a seven minute tutorial for how to use a float variable in UE
Speech dilation 100
Frankly, there is a lot to talk about floating points, but I seriously doubt they go in such debt.
fathom wadi
I saw someone post that vid and thought "ok you can talk about precision and thats it"
proud jay
obviously you could go into depth in the binary representation of floating numbers
which I'm sure is covered
fathom wadi
memory footprint too I guess
fading mulch
why is it always the bad quality youtube videos that i need the most
fathom wadi
but let's face it. This video is gonna say "This is a float please like and subscribe and check out my other videos"
fading mulch
ugh my game idea is changing again
tulip orbit
space weasels now?
mossy nexus
Latest Epic Games Marketplace survey was interesting.
Would you be interested in purchasing an enhanced license to ensure that your purchase is indemnified
Don't like the implications of this though
fathom wadi
indeed. However I bet a lot of people on the marketplace are selling with no public indemnity insurance so if someone's plugin bricks your project and you lose millions, there is no comeback. If the fee for the items included some kind of indemnity I would be happy to know at least the plugin/etc was insured.
bleak remnant
Good thing things like source control exists for smaller projects
Or else people just wouldn't be able to use plugins
unborn lotus
Latest Epic Games Marketplace survey was interesting.
was that for buyers?
mossy nexus
was that for buyers?
yup
bleak remnant
Where is beg chat
I need $1 so I can function for 50 more mins ๐ฅฒ
Only in United States
pearl elk
Wait so Epic doesnt take any liability for what they sell?
bleak remnant
<a:concern:1072675060046909471>
Coding privileges revoked
slim atlas
ok
fathom wadi
Wait so Epic doesnt take any liability for what they sell?
I don't think a marketplace type setup needs to have the indemnity for anything other than the service to relate the products from seller to buyer. The content of that should be down to the seller
pearl elk
Well thats interesting, I had no idea that my purchases from the marketplace were "as is". Not sure that liability clause of Epics would hold if tested here, they might get away with a โstate of the artโ defence
fathom wadi
yeah in some places that law would interpret different. But my guess is they would cover it with other legalese
pearl elk
We hold sellers responsible for items they sell, they have to meet safety requirements etc. When I worked in a second hand shop theres a big list of items we cant sell because of liability, we couldnt just shrug and say well read the all caps section
Epic might give the illusion of self publishing but Id say a strong certification process goes against that idea
fathom wadi
Its highly likely they have varying liability across the globe. But I guess where there is liability on the onus of the seller they are considering the options of protecting the consumer. Which is good of them and serves to help future legal situations.
pearl elk
Yeah consumer law here puts onus on the seller, if there is a defective product and Epic sells it knowing theres a major defect it thats on them. Id hope they quickly remove and refund such products
fathom wadi
they already do once aware, but some of that comes down to pre-release testing before it's allowed and I don't know how that process goes. Whether it's automated by now or hands on. Because there must be a lot of assets daily.
pearl elk
Yeah but thats part of running a store, perhaps the focus should be on quality over adding new products
celest musk
why? people buy the stuff even with minimal quality control (afaik they check at least if it builds)
fathom wadi
I remember making my first marketplace asset ( a 3d radar system with targeting system) and went to go through the process and the amount of hoops I had to jump through just to get it posted and then keep up support, I decided I'd rather not. So I put a couple of things on gumroad and that's it ๐
mossy nexus
It really depends on what they are indemnifying against. Consider that content is removed from the MP from time to time due to IP etc.etc. Customers are not informed, which could lead to all kinds of potential fun.
pearl elk
I actually go through other sellers because its easier to know what Im buying, github I get to see the full source of a plugin and then liability is on me if I didnt check the source
celest musk
It really depends on what they are indemnifying against. Consider that content i...
that's really something that tells a bad story about epic...
mossy nexus
It would be unlikely that would be the case, as Epic are the people selling the items on behalf of the customer.
celest musk
imho that's something they should do, specially if they take down things because of DMCA
but i think they just go in the hope that no one will notice, and so they don't have to deal with people asking for refunds
pearl elk
So Epic is stealing is that what youre saying?
Thats what it sounds like, refunds are not optional in Australia
celest musk
that's not what im saying, but you are right, it's what they do
fathom wadi
I dont think DMCA counts in this sense. it's more about how it affects your bottom line. Every website has a DMCA responsibility. There is no indemnity for that. But there is on the person who broke copyright. And thats not Epic in that situation.
celest musk
they sell stuff, they cash in the provision, DMCA strike comes in, they take it down, they keep the cash
mossy nexus
The other questions in the survey were interesting too. Focusing around customer service, such as creating unlimited product keys, discount coupons and other useful ideas.
celest musk
I dont think DMCA counts in this sense. it's more about how it affects your bott...
but it's you the customer in the end, if you use an asset which turns out to be using stolen assets
and epic doesn't inform you
fathom wadi
sure if they dont inform you, but they would have a record of who owns the product and they can remote delete from vaults, so Im sure they would at least send an email.
pearl elk
I dont think DMCA counts in this sense. it's more about how it affects your bott...
But Epic have a certification process and if they didnt catch the issue then they are liable somewhat. If Epic didnt have a process in place then they might get away with it because its closer to self publishing
celest musk
i didn't get one for the one asset which was free last month and got DMCA striked
mossy nexus
I dont think DMCA counts in this sense. it's more about how it affects your bott...
You may be right, but since Epic have an approval process it would be very reasonable to presume some kind of responsibility. I can't see a legal defense of "I know we were the ones actually checking and selling buuuutt.. it's nuffin' to do with us guv!" ๐
he guys
mossy nexus
i didn't get one for the one asset which was free last month and got DMCA strike...
Magic sounds?
fathom wadi
yeah I think that comes down to their process for asset checking. Like I said before, not sure if its automated now or not because I haven't done a marketplace bit for years.
I know when they were hand doing them it was sketchy tho
mossy nexus
Lets face it though, it's virtually impossible to manually check each asset for IP restrictions.
fathom wadi
well wont be soon with some AI money thrown in ๐
pearl elk
Well you gotta purchase the asset to check it for an infringement
I guess either way Epic wins
fathom wadi
pearl elk
I guess the real issue is if you use that content in a published game
Then you end up lost in limbo... tehehehe
fathom wadi
just put a billboard with a giant neon flashing arrow next to the asset in game that says "Parody"
pearl elk
"We're seeing softness in the overall market," Zelnick
you guys gotta be more hardcore
fathom wadi
Ken Levine is on his next outing. Got my missus all hyped about it
some people fawn over music stars and celebs. My wife has a few actors she simps to and a bunch of game developers. It's alternatively awesome ๐
pearl elk
I only simp over Carmack tbh lol
I just love the way he's consumer focused but still has an eye for business at the same time
fathom wadi
pretty sure they need to kill this series.
pearl elk
Theres a new I Know What You Did Last Summer ๐ฎ
fathom wadi
jesus everyone knows what they did. It was in the first movie. Just end it ๐
fathom wadi
yeah he voice acts games too. I know who his father was too as my general knowledge is on point.
pearl elk
tbh the TV show of that was pretty good, it was a different story to the original
fathom wadi
they should do a version about game developers. "I know what company you interned for minimum wage last summer"
pearl elk
I know what you did last gamejam
pearl elk
I know what you bugged last commit
I think I need to hire someone to buy music for me, its the most time consuming thing to buy lol
fleet tangle
https://tenor.com/view/no-pain-no-pain-no-gain-gif-12918423
The real pain is this guy's facial hair.
pearl elk
The real pain is this guy's facial hair.
mossy nexus
they should do a version about game developers. "I know what company you intern...
Saw a tweet the other day, I guy was trying to do a Glasswire [? thing you break down your old job] Got refused as the salary he got was so far below standard it thought he was review bombing I guess.. ๐
fathom wadi
I just got refused rental on a house because I didn't earn enough this year as I had taken time off work in September to house hunt and have been living on savings. I was heartbroken at the ridiculousness of it.
just had my eviction notice too so I have 3 weeks until it goes to court then upto 2 weeks after to move out. Can't find anywhere tho
mossy nexus
ahh the irony
fathom wadi
even if I found a place today, chances are it would take longer than 5 weeks to sort out and move in. Frustrating to say the least.
mossy nexus
I can imagine. Shitty situation to be in.
unborn lotus
Do you have something like a rent broker? No one would give us 5 minutes when trying for a credit until we used a credit broker which knew the ins and outs
foggy path
pearl elk
Lies, Unity cant have good graphics ๐
sweet rose
What's the most underrated band you know
foggy path
Nickelback
sweet rose
They're not underrated ๐
zinc matrix
pearl elk
What's the most underrated band you know
Crowded House
sweet rose
Crowded House
Thanks, will check them out
pearl elk
They were big at the time but theyre never really in the conversation these days
sweet rose
Never heard of them yeah
pearl elk
Took me ages just to think of their name lol
sweet rose
Ohhh they're Australian
pearl elk
yeah I went through Pseudo Echo and Australian Crawl first lol
sweet rose
The band I was about to name is half Australian too ๐
Sunset Sons
Criminally underrated
pearl elk
Bush are pretty decent too
sweet rose
Haven't heard of them either
pearl elk
90s grunge
sweet rose
Oh I love grunge
sweet rose
There are so many defunct grunge bands I've found on Spotify that are all amazing, sad that they never continued making music
sweet rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8XcMG1EX4
Listening to don't dream it's over rn
pearl elk
Id play this over Sweet Home Alabama any day of the week... Maybe not Eagle Rock though
unborn lotus
Only australian band I know is ween
sweet rose
Only ween song I know is ocean man
unborn lotus
And kylie minogue, doing the locomotion
pearl elk
Jimmy Barnes is pretty good too or Johnny Farnham, they got over shadowed alot by Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi
Not bands though, Barnsey was in Cold Chisel
sweet rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8XcMG1EX4
Do you guys know A Perfect Circle
https://open.spotify.com/track/6tgTTBaIf0tO6lvDhoXfMg?si=aemQxl4LRZiu9INcG4OvRQ&utm_source=copy-link
pearl elk
Yup I do, Judith is pretty amazing, I like Tool more though
pearl elk
Tool is very dark
sweet rose
So is APC ๐
sweet rose
I once saw someone write a beautiful analogy about Tool APC and Puscifer in YouTube comments
Don't remember it fully now
Tool is the mind
APC is the heart
Something like that
pearl elk
Makes sense, Tool is like a mind worm that burrows in
sweet rose
Yes
pearl elk
I remember them playing all the film clips when Rage was still on TV, all that claymation was so cool
sweet rose
I remember them playing all the film clips when Rage was still on TV, all that c...
What was Rage
๐
pearl elk
It was a music video show on ABC, it used to be on free to air TV late at night till the morning on the weekends
sweet rose
Ohhh
pearl elk
then countdown would start on the other channel which was all the chart toppers with some other stuff mixed in
sweet rose
I probably wasn't alive then
pearl elk
I think it finished up when channel V started taking off, that isnt around anymore either
sweet rose
I remember them playing all the film clips when Rage was still on TV, all that c...
I remember the fan made music videos on YouTube before Tool came out with their own official channel haha
The video for Right In Two was awesome
pearl elk
I remember watching Band in the Bubble with Regurgitator, they lived in this tiny portable house in the city with a big clear living space people could look into
oblique cloak
im very upset. Cities: Skylines is making a remasted version for consoles only and not pc ๐ข I would of logged another 400+ hours on this ugh..
sweet rose
I remember watching Band in the Bubble with Regurgitator, they lived in this tin...
Sounds interesting
Like Big brother for bands ๐
pearl elk
Yeah it was, they made a whole album while they were in there. You could see how stressful it was for em since it was so much smaller space than Big Brother
pearl elk
Dunno if Id say the album was good but it was definitely interesting. I remember hearing how Red Hot Chilli Peppers did something similar, went to a house in the middle of no where and popped out an album
one of the tracks they made
sweet rose
Found it
pearl elk
dont ask me why its 360p lol
sweet rose
4 song EP
pearl elk
probably better quality audio anyways, youtube didnt improve the audio quality until later
considering it was recorded in a tiny bubble though its impressive, barely any room for the drum kit lol
sweet rose
It's not bad
sweet rose
considering it was recorded in a tiny bubble though its impressive, barely any r...
For sure
pearl elk
I think this song is only getting more relevant as it ages tbh
sweet rose
Yeah ๐
APC had a song on a similar theme on their latest album
https://open.spotify.com/track/2TVUVp5vMnWQfyKAIYwMmt?si=xUSM4kZuT2-md6teGni1ug&utm_source=copy-link
Beautiful song, music video too
pearl elk
Frenzal Rhomb are pretty awesome, 90s punk
sweet rose
Punk is hit or miss for me
Oh this is not that kind of punk
I associate punk with anarchist themes
pearl elk
I cant link it because of the explicit lyrics lol
sweet rose
๐น
pearl elk
All Your Friends is anarchist tbh haha
sweet rose
Is that a band
pearl elk
its a song by Frenzal Rhomb
sweet rose
Ohh
I don't like the kind of punk where they just keep singing and singing with no breaks and the guitarist and drummer keep playing and playing the same thing again and again till the song ends
If that makes sense ๐คฃ
pearl elk
Yeah I wouldnt listen to these songs over and over lol
sweet rose
All Your Friends is anarchist tbh haha
Their songs sound like a 90s tv show title track
pearl elk
I think thats how its meant to be, even the album cover is like The Brady Bunch
sweet rose
Yeah
pearl elk
takes a big stab at suburban life in the 90s, bit like Ugly Kid Joe
pearl elk
zoomers everywhere
pearl elk
they wernt born, they were grown in the labs at tech bros inc
dont tell em but theyre NFTs
proud jay
lol a dude was crushing me in chess
and suddenly offered a draw
lmao
lucky me
gained 2 rating points from that
pearl elk
mercy killing
soft night
https://tenor.com/view/pc-gamers-too-many-games-too-many-to-play-full-library-1000games-gif-23043536
zinc matrix
^this is why i stopped using netflix couple years ago ๐
inland oriole
Too little games is no fun, but too many is in a way also annoying.
proud jay
wth is up with this game today
a dude totally crushing me in chess
and he just forfeits
what is this
pearl elk
you got em on the run
pearl elk
are you sure he was winning, maybe he saw something you didnt
proud jay
he was up 13 points of material
and about to promote a pawn
I literally just had a king an 4 blocked pawns
pearl elk
I guess they are just being good sports
proud jay
I played it really bad
proud jay
maybe yeah
cursive crypt
1 more episode to Queens Gambit, I will start to understand that game.
pearl elk
Its all about Russian politics
proud jay
1 more episode to Queens Gambit, I will start to understand that game.
are you actually watching it or just meme
proud jay
true
cursive crypt
I dunno. Which other board game causes not only championships, but has so old roots and bunch of randos gathering around to watch?
proud jay
true
chess is bae
play on lichess though, not chess.com
chess.com is money grubbing boys
rip explicit
pearl elk
Anya Taylor Joy is a great actress, her performance is tops
cursive crypt
No, no, I don't like chess at all. I'm interested in it because it is weird.
slim atlas
I eat glue
cursive crypt
I mean compare ^
cursive crypt
wtf with your gifs guys
pearl elk
discord so lag
cursive crypt
Have you paid enough money to them?
proud jay
discord doesn't like flesh color
cursive crypt
Not enough chakra for that jutsu
pearl elk
lounge too flesh coloured
cursive crypt
Aah, I see now, lol
Well, it is maybe that analogue in East? Not familiar with it.
proud jay
never heard of it
cursive crypt
I think in that Naruto anime there were some playing it.
pearl elk
cursive crypt
I think it is kinda east chess... or that was Go? Iunno.
cursive crypt
Fix your alpha.
pearl elk
look at those fleshy pillows
celest musk
CoUlD hArM gAmErS
those pages should shut up
they said the same shit when microsoft bought github
what changed?
cursive crypt
Well Blizzard harms them enough already, but I understand the sentiment.
pearl elk
Im so sick of them focusing on CoD for consoles
cursive crypt
Im so sick of them focusing on CoD for consoles
You hater, everyone plays CoD, why don't you too.
pearl elk
You hater, everyone plays CoD, why don't you too.
MS shouldnt own that many IPs, CoD has very little to do with it
proud jay
Im so sick of them focusing on CoD for consoles
yeah they should focus on CoD mobile
pearl elk
Candy Crush makes more than CoD Mobile
last I checked King is still part of the purchase
cursive crypt
what changed?
Many things changed, planners, billing plans, features, integrations, etc.
Being bought by someone does not mean you witness it each time, just your money go to someone else.
proud jay
Candy Crush makes more than most ABKings portfolio
cursive crypt
Gacha Crush
pearl elk
name an FPS MS wont own... quick quick
proud jay
candy crush is top income for ABK
and candy crush soda saga is also in top 5
moms really do be paying for our games
pearl elk
CoD, Halo, Doom, Quake, Overwatch...
cursive crypt
Hexen?
pearl elk
Yup, Raven
proud jay
name an FPS MS wont own... quick quick
isn't destiny independent again?
or did they get rebought
pearl elk
woohoo someone got one
cursive crypt
Freaking monopolism.
proud jay
oh wait I think Sony bought them
pearl elk
Destiny, Borderlands
proud jay
Fortnut
pearl elk
Ahh the oldies
warm bloom
I wanna play Hogwarts legacy already
pearl elk
but MS has Wolfenstein
proud jay
I wanna play Hogwarts legacy already
buy the deluxe edition then
they bought wolfenstein?
warm bloom
not worth