latest-updates

[worn depot]

Are you referring to todays patch or just the Germany rework update in general

[worn depot]

Because todays patch didn’t mention anything about states

[digital mural]

Today

How do I roll back version?

(Steam version)

[worn depot]

Ah then yeah I believe it’s save compatible, patch notes didn’t say anything about not being save compatible

[worn depot]

Canadian was referring to the initial Germany rework release which did add states, but this patch didn’t do you should be good

[digital mural]

Oh god lore thanks

I thought I was going to lose my 6 hours gameplay

[rocky oasis]

Decided to do some research and apparently Ferdinand Schörner was removed as a general for some reason at some point.

[worn depot]

Yw

[void yew]

Latest patch broke things. I cant deploy airwings anymore? Am i the only one. I cant find anything on this.

I have the manpower and the planes. I have 800 in stock. and 500k manpower. And room in the airfield. Just cant deploy them as the UI just disappears the moment i click on it.

[hexed mango]

lmaooooo

most tested hoi4 dlc

[patent roost]

Yeah, pretty much unplayable without the tools mod.

[fading walrus]

Thank god their is no Zoroastrian schizo path

For Iran

Seen that before

[fresh cedar]

If you play as Austria on alt-history, Germany does Rheinland EVERY time. Restarted 8 times on new saves and got Rheinland every time, and confirmed historical is off.

[violet python]

Guys I'm listtle lost,what I actually have to do to be able to use this congo tree as Belgium ?

[pseudo wing]

you can only do the focuses with the Belgian flag under it, the ones with the Congo flag under it is for the person playing them to do

the ones with both flags under it you can both do

[violet python]

yeah I see this, my question is if I'm playing as Belgium why do I see this congo tree? I mean , when can I use it ?

in which situation it will allow it

[pseudo wing]

you need to see which focuses Belgium has done, because some are prerequisits for ones you can do, and some give/take compliance points which can lead to you integrating them or them breaking free from being a puppet

[thick edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192615434122440757/1287874021219893362/4x1-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[violet python]

aaaa I see, Congo and Belgium shares the same tree !?

[thick edge]

To a degree

[pseudo wing]

you will see a tiny tiny Congo flag next to a focus Congo is currently doing, and completed ones will have a small notification in the right hand of your screen

and there is a shared portion but they are not the same tree

think of it like AAT's nordic shared focus tree

but this one is more Overlord and Puppet oriented

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[violet python]

yeah I got it now ! If I play as Congo I would see the same tree so ?

Thank you

[pseudo wing]

@fresh cedar I've received an answer to your question from before, it IS intended that Volkommisariats do not core on integration

[violet python]

https://tenor.com/view/demokratik-kongo-gif-23460173

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/xafer-angrybirdsmeme-meme-realistic-realangrybirds-gif-1881715814889715973

[pseudo wing]

keep in mind that there are separate parts of the congo tree entirely, especially portions for you breaking free of Belgium whether through diplomacy or... violence haha

[thick edge]

Violence is the answer to everything

[violet python]

I totally agree

[thick edge]

(I don’t condone harming each other this is purely a joke for legal reasons)

[violet python]

Well I like Violence but the AI beat my ass in all of my HOI4 games lol

👉🏼 👈🏼

[pseudo wing]

violence against HOI AI is fine

they earned it

[violet python]

[thick edge]

Canada

Horrible supply issues

[fresh cedar]

Dang, thanks for asking. Never doing that tree then, no point. 😂

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah, seems like Germany goes Rheinland every time now even on alt history 😔

[violet python]

I still struggling to understand this total cost.. 140 total cost of what ?

[thick edge]

If u go in construction

Hover over a item

Says a price

Let’s say 1500

When u build it it can be 300/1500

After that trade

It’s 440/1500

[violet python]

Damn man, 700 hours in this and I learned just now

Thank you very much @thick edge

👏🏼

[thick edge]

🍇🗣️

[violet python]

and when i'm buying ? @thick edge

will increase 150 to my build queue like the when I selling ?

[thick edge]

Take 150???

Or gives 150

Or both

[violet python]

got it , selling I receive it in this case buying will take 150. Thanks man

[limber frigate]

Should I buy this dlc

[violet python]

Of course, 10/10.. Cant stop playing it lol

[thick edge]

Which dlc

[swift mortar]

It won’t take it directly, it’ll just take your civs until they build that much for the other country

Like it won’t reduce progress

[violet python]

What do you mean by Civs ?

[swift mortar]

Civilian factories

[violet python]

Here I buying from Sweden, what changes for me please ?

[swift mortar]

You are using 1 civ as you see

[swift mortar]

So Sweden is using that civ until it builds this much

[violet python]

yeap and about the - we are paying 1496 etc ?

[violet python]

So it is not taking from my civs

[swift mortar]

So you lose that civ until it builds that much (1832 ic) for Sweden then you get it back and the equipment at the same time

[violet python]

got it ! Thank you !

[swift mortar]

Np

[limber frigate]

is gotterdamerung worth it

[clever atlas]

Yes

[tough mango]

Somehow I don't have 1.15.1

[digital mural]

Do you play mods? Which is your favorite?

[hearty blade]

chak isnt a real gamer like us

[wheat gulch]

real

[jovial furnace]

If belgium got é-s in their names in this patch then why cant Hungarys Pecs be renamed to its actual name, Pécs?

[hearty blade]

didnt have the budget for that

[jovial furnace]

Lol

[coral jay]

Are jet engines still shit or can you know get good ones? I unlocked the axial ones is that it? No more upgrades to them?

[dapper fjord]

prob Vanilla Navy Rework mod ...

[tulip dagger]

The one that turns them all to chads

[dense gale]

stick to f2e3

or f3e4 if its 1944

the jets engine are not good compared to the regular engines

[rich iris]

SCAM TBH

[thick edge]

<@&846894118219022336>

Every channel

W Chak as always

[fresh cedar]

I really want to play Austria on ahistorical but don’t want to fight Historical Germany

[low plover]

It will be fun!

https://tenor.com/view/steamroller-flattened-frogger-arcade-cartoon-gif-3947370806596607199

[rocky oasis]

Day whatever of advocating for more German generals to be added at some point in the future.

[violet python]

Can I give this order ? or this is something passive from the game ?

[solid gyro]

If there's no decision then it's passive

[violet python]

I think I found a bug, when completing this one, I should receive 2 units in South England , right ? Belgium tree

[obtuse ingot]

When do dev diary for GoE start?

[stable tusk]

Probably after the winter holidays

But I swear if the Indian tree isn't good I'm rioting

[tacit sequoia]

it better be big tree

[fading walrus]

Im starting wwiii if it isnt good

Because Indias focus tree as of rn is bland

[bitter yew]

should I use mass assault doctirine for most chinas?

[acoustic zenith]

how the hell i get my generals

[stable tusk]

You're looking for a Field Marshal, not a general
Make sure you aren't using any field marshals instead of generals anywhere

[acoustic zenith]

i dont have any field marshal

im 100% sure there is a focus for that but im too lazy to read

[stable tusk]

You probably should get one from focuses, also I think you're supposed to start with at least one

[stuck dock]

Just promote them.
Otherwise go to the focusses and type "field" in the search bar.
Field marshals focusses should pop up.

[dusky bay]

Where to next you guys reckon

[solid gyro]

make the ai good dlc

[hollow coral]

Southeast asia with japan rework

Then maybe a china rework in an expansion pass

[solid gyro]

Why are all the majors vanilla?

[dusky bay]

because you only get alt history paths from dlc for the majors

[solid gyro]

But why is Finland not vanilla then

And other minors which work that way

[dusky bay]

i didnt realize they gave some countries their historical focus tree

apparently its just finland

[solid gyro]

Oh yeah because dominions got integrated

[dusky bay]

yeah all the other non-majors that are marked vanilla is because they turned several dlc freee

[solid gyro]

whenever i make new equipment, it all ends with either A1, or Mk0. i swear it didn't used to be like that. what's going on?

[hollow coral]

For what equipment?

[solid gyro]

all of it, whenever i assign a company to it

[hollow coral]

I dont normally pay attention to the equipment but i dont think i have that problem

[pallid hollow]

Most Majors have different series identifiers for upgraded equipment, just like in historical precedent - British kit would go Mk1 - Mk10 etc, US kit was generally A1-E4 as an example

I'd hazard a guess to say that was added alongside MIOs

[solid gyro]

Okay, I understand. But I guess what I'm asking is why it's something forced.

Like, with Tanks and Planes, you can choose to remove the Mk thingy

[pallid hollow]

Ah, that I don't know. ^^

[barren tusk]

guys i have a debate which option is better to helkp being germany? trostky or Stalin ??????

[stable tusk]

Raj is GoE too

[hollow coral]

With stalin you can have more buildup

[hollow coral]

Map creator just put it into vanilla because the it was first added into together for victory that is integrated now

[harsh hull]

I hope La Résistance gets integrated into the base game at some point

I would like if France were eligible for a second rework in the future

There are two levels of country content quality in HOI4 DLC, I feel - pre-NSB and post-NSB

And LaR was unlucky to be the one right before NSB

[wary geyser]

well that's new to me

[hollow coral]

France was kinda a downgrade from man the guns upgraded uk

Its not as engaging

[barren tusk]

france should be reworked as chezch, romania uk, japan and USA

[prisma wing]

France need a rework 👍

[harsh hull]

Besides Japan's tree being ancient in comparison, France just doesn't have as many cool funny things going for it, the least of any major

Sure, Franco-Spain is neat, but the UK can core about half the planet into a unified Empire

Even France's ability to disunite Germany isn't unique anymore now that those parts of Germany are just starting cores

[hollow coral]

I think just france and balkan entente works bruh

Plus albania

[hollow coral]

Yeh it doesnt have any cool features anymore

Its basically trying to fix everything which is just focus clicking

I dont even do industry focuses that much in the beginning cuz france has a good industry build up

[dapper fjord]

I just know as USA, the game not using B-36 icon as intercontinental bomber project, but other icon (dunno what type, B-32/B-50??)..

[solid gyro]

Personally I think they will do a Japan focus tree next year with a China update like they did for Hungary. And maybe throw Thailand and Mongolia in their. Bc they won’t do nothing to USA or uk until they integrate man the guns

[worthy sequoia]

we need the ukrainian-belorussian united democratic people's republic pocket SSR

[barren tusk]

My question is why France does not have descolonization like UK as well

[solid gyro]

I've been wondering the same thing ngl

I wouldn't mind if all the colonial countries had the same colony tree as UK

[wet seal]

What Nation's Focus Tree Each Latest D.L.C. Expanded

[dapper fjord]

only MtG and WtTiger consist 2 major nation in one expansion, but not a revamp.. only added alt historic path(?)

[granite vessel]

Why didn't you add Hungary to Gotterdammerung, but added India to GOE

[hexed mango]

Germany and hungary should have double colors

India as well yeah

[remote fern]

finland is latin confirmed?

[harsh hull]

Eventually, they'll use up all their good ideas for DLC, so they'll make another one that releases all the constituent soviet republics of the USSR as puppets of Russia so they can have focus trees for them

And that's the update where we'll get the democratic Soviet path

[solid gyro]

I saw Greece join the Nordic defence front last week

[solid gyro]

Heavily doubt that since Soviet union just got a dlc, and having all the soviet republics as puppets would take away a lot from the Soviet union

[tacit sequoia]

It would expand upon history, though I do wonder if hoi4 is going to expand start dates in the near future with a game engine rework also.

Even though most people play 1936, it would be cool to play earlier on like the darkest hour mod

[thick edge]

The year 1237

[safe plover]

u can do the old landsturm exploit now with austria and spawn in tanks for free

[polar jasper]

Ain't no way, the classic meme is back?

[south meadow]

will gotterdammerung have sale for black friday?

[solid gyro]

Most Likely

Not sure though but prob yes would make sense

[karmic field]

hello, i researched this project harp thingemijig, i was wondering if anyone knows the approximate range? I would not want to build it and not have any baddies to bop with it.

[rocky oasis]

No, clearly when they run out of things to add/rework they will start doing packs to add remaining historical generals (this the only logical explanation I can think of for why several prominent German generals were not added in Götterdämmerung).

[polar jasper]

Not for 3 months at least

[south meadow]

that's sad

i just need 9 dollars

i guess i'm gonna ask my parents for it

[frank meteor]

imma just beg my mom until she absolutley loses her sh*t and finally buys me it then ill do it with the dlc (wish me luck i dont get beaten).

[polar jasper]

Not the greatest tactic

[frank meteor]

oh well its the only one i have

[solid gyro]

This is a bug

If you hover over it the description mentions the 'Stasi'

Its from the Communist tree but didnt dissapear

[austere pelican]

Im going to rush austrian achievements asap

[hearty blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-anime-gif-25571095

[barren tusk]

guys how can i add a new general? all three are blocke

[austere pelican]

If you hover over them you can see why they are locked. And if you cant unlock them, you can promote field generals once they are level 4 to these positions

[barren tusk]

ok

thanks

[barren tusk]

don't ask me congo

[keen eagle]

when did indonesia get a focus tree?

[barren tusk]

is a trash template?

[austere pelican]

A lot to improve here, but most crucially with that org you click the enemy, and have to stop instantly

[thick edge]

yes

[wanton dirge]

1943 and light tanks is terrible

[barren tusk]

after 1940 better medium?

Cool right?

[grand fossil]

why didnt i get an option to form vichy as Germany?

nevermind

[solid gyro]

Awaken Burgundians!

[whole sleet]

What does the DLC bring apart from the new German, Belgium, Hungarian focus trees?
The Steam description says the new science stuff and projects, but it's already in the free update

[woeful oasis]

Yugoslavia needs a reworked focus tree for historical since the Partisan and Chetnik war are not even represented

[hearty blade]

ya get the option the moment paris is taken (even if france hasnt capped yet)

so if u cap them without paris you wont get it until you get paris from them capping

[solid gyro]

This is the most brain numbing achievement

[hearty blade]

atleast u now have shakira on your steam

or something

[solid gyro]

Lol yep next up is the ships don’t lie for double the shakira

[hearty blade]

oh ya i forgot about that one

devs sure love shakira

also lady gaga with bad romance ig?

[solid gyro]

Yep bad romeance

[fresh cedar]

I like how the current factory max for USA is around 450 factories. Which is basically the same as the United Kingdom.

Really represents how they made up 50% of the global war production by 1943-1945

Not sure why the US was nerfed into the grave. Like does it make sense that the US can only grow its industry by 2x the entire game, while Germany and Russia can grow theirs 10-15x?

It’s cap should be atleast 1,000 if not 1,500 to put it on par with a late game Soviet Union

[silent prism]

Makes sense

[thick edge]

@pallid hollow

Sorrry for the ping

But is this why u can’t say stalker 2 is good?

I think it’s stalker

[pallid hollow]

I'll move this discussion over to #off-topic as it isn't relevant to this channel, but happy to answer that question!

[thick edge]

Dang

[royal marten]

”By the grace of allah, the schlieffen plan shall succeed”

German army command can get the trait sword of islam

Screenshot stolen from reddit

[hollow coral]

If they go down to middle east focus at the bottom of mittleuropa

[royal marten]

Holy roman empire, the sword or islam 🤣

[shut plume]

any polish people here?

[polar bronze]

no

[harsh hull]

Not since The Incident™️

(A Pole was caught driving 45 in a 40 mph zone, and was politely but firmly asked to leave)

[harsh marsh]

hey that's me! xD

that post really did numbers xD

being able to do the EU into The HRE is actually pretty busted hahaha

[solid gyro]

Uninstall and reinstall

It helps

[jolly bluff]

Mainly balancing reasons, the United States’ already powerful fleet combined with its geography gives it one hell of an advantage over Germany and the USSR.

In my opinion this is why I think USA games aren’t boring, the objective ain’t simply to stomp the Axis. It is to grow your industry to its full potential before and while doing so.

[solid gyro]

You can do EU into Austria Hungary

Honestly that and Rome to Pope are awful because of the color

[wary geyser]

I think i could use more missile launch sites 🤔

[wary geyser]

i'm a junta but for some reason i still need to worry about congress 🤔

[fallen rivet]

Congress is always there

[wary geyser]

'merica!

with flag that has a crown in it 🤣

slightly confused sounds

[void nacelle]

the new science thingys for free are limited so u wont really get the full experience
theres some visual stuff too ig

[whole sleet]

Lol thanks for the reply, didn't expect one a day later x)

[fresh cedar]

Its “full potential” should be much higher. 500 is nothing compared to its counterparts. It’s completely unbalanced for the UK to have the same industrial capacity as the USA…

Make it 1000 and make up to 1941 very slow if needed.

[wise oxide]

guys hear me ou

t

why dam flods give recruitable population debuff but nuked guys can be recruited?

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[barren tusk]

is possible to naval invade USA in late game going through atlantic ocean?

i was thinking putting all my planes to sink boats and planes but for sure USA will have more than me

[hardy tapir]

Hello everyone, I have a question, do you know how to fix the game Hearts of iron 4? When I go to Steam, the library and then click play, it loads for a while and then I have the play button again, the game doesn't start.

[barren tusk]

Have you tried uninstall and install again?

[hardy tapir]

Yes

I've done this before

[barren tusk]

@pseudo wing can you help him

I don't know because it never happened to me @hardy tapir

[hardy tapir]

Ok

Thank you very mach

[pseudo wing]

Have you tried launching it without the launcher? (it should be an option when booting up the game)

though, Trigo, I'd ask that you not ping me directly for tech support as that is not apart of my job here

I dont mind helping out sometimes but I am not technically qualified for it aha

[hardy tapir]

I don't even see the lancher

[pseudo wing]

try uninstalling PAradox launcher v2 from your computer

and forcing the game to reinstall it when you launch the game again

[summer spear]

UK cant get as many factories as fast as USA, even tho i agree with US being "limited" to ~500 factories max kinda sucks, it still starts with over double the amount of total factories compared to the 2md place

But US could use complete rework overall

[barren tusk]

Who should I pin? Sorry

[pseudo wing]

no need to apologise, I am just reminding you. I am not upset but I can't track down every ping during the day aha and I would feel bad if I don't answer a question

we have tech helpers in the server to help out but they are of course volunteers

[barren tusk]

How do I know they are "tech helpers"?

I only know you that's why I pinned you jajaja

[pseudo wing]

there is a tech helper role for it that should be pingable (not now and keep it to the #ask-for-help-here or #tech-support channels)

and yeah I do like to help out sometimes but I am very limited on it

[barren tusk]

Noted ✍️

[fading walrus]

People who want a France or Uk rework:

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

Napoleon path is medicore

No war goals in spain or options to ally nations

Also the Orleans path being the most democratic is stupid

Because that was the house that the far right party Action Franscie wanted

[fresh cedar]

Feel like they Lowkey hate the US

[fading walrus]

Also Egypt should be a playable nation

Because it was a puppet of the UK in 1936

[fresh cedar]

If Graveyard of Empires doesn’t have this, a Commonwealth rework would

[fading walrus]

they don't 😭

[fresh cedar]

I’m not even saying a tree, just as a dominion Atleast 😂

[fading walrus]

oh okay

[pseudo wing]

that's it, I'm making it a Brazilian Dominion now

its too late

the world will be Brazil

[fresh cedar]

Booo

[summer spear]

Doubt there will be a France rework anytime soon

[fading walrus]

IK

also I took Catalunia

[summer spear]

Kinda funny considering that US has currently one of the most broken focus trees in game, despite it being changed only in MTG, and only change was adding communist and fascist trees

[fading walrus]

uhhhh

did Germany just trade Slovkia for Danzig on historcal

[barren tusk]

Mf the unification of crowns or one crown is the war goal of spain

[barren tusk]

Catalonia*

[fresh cedar]

Broken? 💀

[barren tusk]

Broken in terms of shit

Not powerful I believe

[fresh cedar]

Oh thought you were saying OP

[fading walrus]

I meant as Napoleon

because Spain was a major theatre in the Napoleonic wars

as well as Italy

[summer spear]

That's what i meant

Even tho it doesn't look powerful

[fading walrus]

I mean my other problem as France is that almost all the focus's are 70 days

if La Resistance was made in 2024 they would be 35 days

[violet python]

Hey guys, how are you guys invading Belgium now in this new patch ? UK and France are guarantying them, the usual start to justify war with Poland in 36 goes to Holland and after Belgium does not work anymore. I can take Poland, Belgium and Holland but France is mega buffed.

[fresh cedar]

French Empire really the only viable one too

Plus the French Colonial path is so RNG focused

[summer spear]

US has only 1 focus shorter than 70 days, and most focuses don't give really a lot

[fading walrus]

True

USA alt history paths are poorly researched as well

The communists in the usa were prone to infighting

As well as the fascists

If anything the USA should have 8 paths

3 democratic, 3 communist and 2 fascist

Also Alf Landon winning at the click of a button is funny

When in fact he only won Maine and Vermont

He got crushed

[harsh hull]

The only thing I can think of for a USA tree is that the first few focuses of the alt history branches start retroactively changing American history to put Roosevelt on the backfoot in the 36 election

[fading walrus]

Oh yeah totally

But the democrats inviting in communists and the republicans fascists in 1936 respectively is unrealistic

[summer spear]

Shit tons of 7-35 days focuses

[fading walrus]

They wouldn’t have done it because it was political succeed

[fading walrus]

I mean some stuff should be 35 days

[summer spear]

There are 1 or 2 in tanks part of the focus tree

[fading walrus]

Like Italy and the USSR for instance

And Germany now too

Italy and the USSR are my faves btw because I like being put in a bad position at the start

Your both majors sure, but your armies aren’t good

Italy because of its position on the map is really interesting because I like to attack the Balkans

In my current game I went monarchist and Im at war with Romania, Greece, and Turkey

I already capped Yugoslavia

Im gonna call in Bulgaria and hold the Turkish borders

While the main army fights Romania

Greece is almost dead

[summer spear]

Communist or Fascists getting into power in USA seems the most unrealistic

at least the way its shown in HOI4

[fading walrus]

Oh yeah totally

Monarchist italy isn’t the most unrealistic path in hoi4

Comparatively speaking

As Italys king wasnt in exile like every other European king was (except the British King and Dutch Queen, and Scandinavian monarchies)

Also Army traditions is better than Bandits war

Because organization

And on +5% defense bonus on core territory

Anyways my current italy build is this

Italian highways and then the two 35 day focus ‘s which give you 2 free mills each

Then solid progress

Then triumph in Africa

Then convene the grand council

Then the focus’s that make you get italian east africa

Then overthrow Mussolini

Then do army traditions, and the other one that gives you the logistics guy

Then get the King back

Then do foreign affairs and beeline down to claims on Turkey

[barren tusk]

Ehmmm no

[fading walrus]

To the english yes

[barren tusk]

First goal was going to Portugal to make UK less stronger but he encountered with a poor king

So he took advantage of it

[barren tusk]

No, his first plan was Portugal also he made a map how will be the distribution of Portugal after he conquered but he take advantage of the poor king government and yes he conquer almost all Spain except Cadiz

His biggest regret btw

And second regret Russia

[rocky oasis]

Can Walter von Reichenau and Ernst Busch be added?

[winter tartan]

Napoleon had 300k soldiers in Spain and was consistently sending in more as the guerrilla warfare attritioned the French

This extending through 5 years... I would rather say it was a significant waste of resources that in the long term gave him no benefit

[barren tusk]

He regret it

[barren tusk]

His plan (I repeat) was conquering Portugal to make UK less stronger. But he take advantage of the poor king. He want also to expand their borders to Ebro.

Also dude you are Spaniard you should know the history

[winter tartan]

I know it. And I sometimes wish he had succeded

[barren tusk]

He even created a territory division of parts that Spain was going to adquire when Portugal was invaded

[barren tusk]

Catalán?

Why would you say that?

[winter tartan]

navarro. Not that I don't like Spain, it is just that I am pretty much of a francophile

[barren tusk]

Ahh, well navarra is kinda interesting history

[winter tartan]

Navarra stronk

[barren tusk]

How being Navarre you are more francophile?

You were the most catholic, Spaniard and monarchist region

[winter tartan]

Catholic certainly, Spaniard... I don´t think that the nationalist feeling arrived as early as 1808

But not for being a Navarro does it mean I am a carlist anyway. It is like saying that for being from Cataluña you must be an independentist

[barren tusk]

Well for sure they weren't with the basque movement

[winter tartan]

Yeah, that is way more recent. 50-60s is when PNV and co started being relevant

[barren tusk]

After Fernando Vii navarra took the role of ultra conservants

[winter tartan]

Where are you from?

[barren tusk]

Do you feel offense when they tell you basque and not navarro?

[barren tusk]

I am your neighborhood

[winter tartan]

Funnily enough, I was born in Bilbao, but as Wellington said, you are not a horse just from being born in a stable. And yeah, it is slightly annoying, although I tolerate it when it comes from certain people in my surroundings. I can understand people feeling more identificated to Basque identity, despite it being historically inacurate

[barren tusk]

Evidently. But come on man some people want to destroy where navarra came and it's people

Guess: EH ....

[winter tartan]

you dont need to spell it out for me lol.

[barren tusk]

For me navarro is navarro. They speak Euskera but because of "Euskal Herria" you are basque

[barren tusk]

Is because talking politics is restricted

[winter tartan]

I know i know but my point is that I know very well who did you meant

[barren tusk]

Yeah

[winter tartan]

But they won't succeed. The similarities between navarros and basques are undeniable, but that doesn't necessarily mean what some people want it to

Also, we are very proud people, us navarros

[barren tusk]

Navarra is such a cool land. Their history their ancestors but there are some who wants to destroy their identity

I loved the carlist history, fueros. Etc..

[winter tartan]

Aragonese?

[barren tusk]

País vasco

Bring back fueros 🙏

[winter tartan]

you guys have fueros, just regional ones

[barren tusk]

No

[winter tartan]

I mean, don't your provinces have something similar? I thought so

[barren tusk]

After third carlist was Antonio can pass del Castillo eliminated

[barren tusk]

Concierto económico

[winter tartan]

ahhh

[barren tusk]

Didn't know?

[winter tartan]

didn't know the difference exactly

Well, I am not saying deleting them was just, but to be honest your flag is a crime against graphical design

[barren tusk]

Why?

Tell sabino arana

[winter tartan]

He liked so much Cardiff coal he stole the british flag

[barren tusk]

Also tell him how did created a perfect sectarism to hate Spain

Literally most basque hate Spain

Incredible what he did

[barren tusk]

Jajajja

It's funny that most protest in basque country they carry navarra flag without the crown

[winter tartan]

At least here things are a bit more chill than 20 years ago. I mean, shit was crazy before

[barren tusk]

But in navarra some people hate us because they want toa annex it

[winter tartan]

Anschluss wannabes

[barren tusk]

Literally ajjaaj

We should make a political party to bring back fueros ajajak

[winter tartan]

At least now you can go out on a Saturday without Molotov Cocktails exploding over the street

[barren tusk]

Kinda, still bad eye putting a Spanish flag in your balcony

Or the Spanish selection

In football

[winter tartan]

Yeah, I am afraid there is a non-written status quo to respect

They are allowed to put their flags in the balconies, we avoid controversial issues and voilá, there is no more dead people on the streets

[barren tusk]

But, hey they are called as "Euskal Herria antifaxistak"

Ironical isn't it?

[south meadow]

in fact being patriotic isn't being fascist

[barren tusk]

You are basque also?

[south meadow]

nah

i'm from chile

[barren tusk]

In our land yes

[south meadow]

because franco right?

[barren tusk]

Franco, guardia civil etc..

No Spanish flag in balconies, bad eye in Spanish anthem. They can fight you

But they are called "Euskal Herria antifaxistak"

[static granite]

lmao

[candid swan]

Makes sense

Most reasonable Poland I’ve seen in hoi4🙏

[thick edge]

hear me out

on christmas

whatever timezone

a free hour

trust

for a single hour everything is free

what can go wrong

[stable tusk]

Paradox stocks collapse instantly

[thick edge]

exactly

[stable tusk]

Hoi4 gets discontinued thanks to a lack of funds

No more DLCs

[thick edge]

or like a 90%

trust

[faint thorn]

Hoi4 wont get discontinued

They aint making HOI5

[latent gyro]

Lies it will be a DLC

[solar inlet]

nice updates

i like'em very well

@clever warren do you need help at paradox?

[barren tusk]

Paradox servers in 1 hour: 🥔🥔🥔🥔

[barren tusk]

Average Spain history

[rugged gazelle]

If they use 3d models instead of photo for leaders I would be disappointed because I like the Historical Portraits mod

[low plover]

3d Animated models

Ai generated

Generated at runtime, slightly different every run

[hollow coral]

I dont know how they could improve hoi4

Other then a new engine

[thick edge]

I would be ok with better optimization

[hollow coral]

I just feel like buying a whole new game just for better performance is not worth it

[thick edge]

An update

[hollow coral]

Ong

[signal cargo]

Im not really familiar with engines but is it possible to switch the engine without remaking the game?

[thick edge]

Wdym

[mental onyx]

Do yall think we'll get another patch update this thursday?

[summer spear]

Probably yes

[fresh cedar]

It’s possible but would be like remaking the game as in order to port everything over you’d effectively have to make it anew. But you’d have a good framework for what to add on the new engine. Possible, but very difficult and time consuming

Though I’d pay $100 for HOI4 on a new engine

[dense gale]

no lol the clausewitz engine is special for what it does

its one of the reason paradox has the market cornered

[fresh cedar]

Isn’t Imperator and CK3 an expanded Clausewitz called Jovini?

Basically just Clausewitz with an addition

[dense gale]

Idts because vic3 is on just clausewitz no

And thats just an improved version cl3 version

Maybe its all merged

[fresh cedar]

I know CK3 and Imperator are the same, would be interesting to know what Vicky 3 is

Ik those too were an updated version though

[fresh cedar]

From what I can tell it’s like Jovini but improved

I just wish HOI4 had the same graphics as the newer games. 😂

[urban cosmos]

Why is Göring still not visibile in the german version after the latest update

[normal current]

Isn’t this deliberate to comply with the law?

[urban cosmos]

I guess yeah but Hitler, Göbbels and Heydrich are now visible after Götterdämmerung

[normal current]

I saw and it seems a bit odd. Is the actual portrait when you right click on Germany still censored, or is it only visible when you go to the inner circle thing?

[urban cosmos]

Its like the uncensored version

only göring is not visible

[normal current]

Weird

It seems like a mistake but idk

[urban cosmos]

possible

[plain matrix]

gggggggggggggggggggggggg

[thick edge]

G?

[bold crow]

How many research slots for the various Germany paths?

[fresh cedar]

100

[tardy swan]

wait what is the difference with the alt historical path to the old one

I haven’t bought gotterdatumm but I got the new German focus tree somehow

but alt historical is the same

[fresh cedar]

Bc the new alt history is what came with the dlc

Historical was free

[tardy swan]

ahhh

ok I’ll buy now

[tardy swan]

thanking you

[fresh cedar]

New alt history tree adds a lot though

Tech, buffs, relations with other countries like China

[tardy swan]

yes

[pallid dust]

سلاو برەکم

[tardy swan]

سڵاو برادەر چۆنیت

[pallid dust]

من زۆر بەشم

[tardy swan]

خەڵکی سلێمانیت کاکە ؟

[pallid dust]

ىەلێ

[tardy swan]

هەر بژیت

[prisma wing]

[plucky crag]

ahlan va sahlan

[tardy swan]

نعم

[pseudo wing]

Reminder that you have to type in english here please, if you wish to speak Arabic I will politely ask you to take it to dm's 🙂

[thick edge]

whats nuh uh in chinese

[hollow coral]

不😤

[harsh hull]

That's it, I'm about to hit them with the angry Spanish:

No.

[hollow coral]

Nada

[mental onyx]

Does anybody know here what triggers AI germany to declare war on yugoslavia on historical? Is it something in there focus or do other nations make them trigger the war?

[stable tusk]

Yugo goes for the focus to sign the tripartite pact which leads to the coup and stuff, at least from what I saw

[harsh hull]

What year is Germany declaring war?

[mental onyx]

Going through the event files, there are two to note. If yugoslavia enters germany's faction with the national spirit "anti-german military" a coup happens but when 1941 comes, they already got rid of that spirit so there is only one event. It requires for the UK to complete its focus "balkan strategy" and will pressure yugoslavia if it is in germany's faction or giving germany military access.

I don't know when the UK takes that focus. It seems random for me

[harsh hull]

What it sounds like to me is that Germany is doing the "Fate of Yugoslavia" focus, but changes in the world dynamics convinced Yugoslavia to refuse

Giving Germany a war goal

[mental onyx]

I'm just going through the list of historical focuses that each country goes through on steam and I don't see germany taking that focus even though it noted when germany invades yugoslavia

maybe the list is wrong?

[harsh hull]

If you're playing a country non-historically, historical lists can be deviated from while the AI tries to re-adjust

If you can access the console, disable the fog of war and see what Germany, Italy, and Yugoslavia are doing focus-wise before the war is declared

[thick edge]

how do i use this

eval_effect [<country tag>] = { create_faction = "[faction name]" }

trying to create a faction

im using guatmala

im doing eval_effect gua

idk what else to type

[mental onyx]

Yeah maybe I'll do that when playing as the USSR

[rocky oasis]

Next countries to get content/get reworked after Graveyard of Empires predictions?

[harsh hull]

From a brief test, that command only works with the scripted effect itself, and the scope tag is assumed to be the current nation

So for Guatemala, you just need eval_effect create_faction="NAME"

[stable tusk]

Maybe either an update for East Asia like Japan and China, updates for the rest of the DoD countries or maybe more updates for the Commonwealth nations

[thick edge]

thx

it works

[harsh hull]

Ah, wait, I stand corrected actually

The real problem is that spaces are counted

[thick edge]

W!

the spaces and the " messed me up

[harsh hull]

So while eval_effect HAI = {create_faction="Testing"} doesn't work

eval_effect HAI={create_faction="Testing"} does work

Or maybe I put in the wrong command, I can't tell

[thick edge]

its goofy

[rocky oasis]

Yeah, I am thinking Japan rework, China rework, Thailand, and then like one or two other countries for the next major dlc. Then Czechoslovakia rework, Romania rework, Yugoslavia rework, and Albania (?) for country pack.

[stable tusk]

Problem is where is glorious Luxembourg supposed to fit in?

[rocky oasis]

Luxembourg is so good that it doesn’t need a focus tree.

[harsh hull]

Looking at this DLC pass, the main DLC is in Europe, while the country pack DLC is in Asia

[stable tusk]

Maybe other way around next time?

[rocky oasis]

It did get content with Götterdämmerung, a couple of generals and all political leaders have portraits.

[harsh hull]

So if we have to account for the two DLC focuses not being in the same neck of the woods for diversity

If Japan and the Co-Prosperity Sphere is the main DLC, then the Pacific Islands can't be the country pack

So my vote is for the Little Entente reworks

[rocky oasis]

Death or Dishonor 2 : Albania edition then

[stable tusk]

Japan and GEACPS main DLC and Little Entente country pack?

[harsh hull]

Good, we're on the same page then

[rocky oasis]

Little Entente plus 1 other country. Only other country in the region is Albania. Zog shall rule all of Europe.

[harsh hull]

Now that we have Burgenland as a state, we need a path for Czechoslovakia that finalizes the Czech Corridor plan

[stable tusk]

FOR ZOG!

Look at this man's glourius mustache

[rocky oasis]

Zog glow-up in the next DLC focusing on the Balkans confirmed?

[stable tusk]

Oh that does, not look good

[uncut vortex]

damn I like the fonts

[rocky oasis]

Permanently splitting Austria and Hungary.

[harsh hull]

Real men dream of the Czechoslovak-Yugoslav Federation

Miss me with that Zapadoslavia dream

[rocky oasis]

Czechoslovakoslavia

[hollow coral]

I feel like a japan rework with south east asia dlc then a china country pack

It would make sense for a expansion pass

[harsh hull]

Yes, but if they did the entire region in one pass, they couldn't market that area a second time later down the line

You're not considering the monetary value of splitting the region into multiple DLC passes

[hollow coral]

If they plan on repworking japan first before china it might also weaken its gameplay for chiba

The first expansion pass was split most likely because it was basically he final dlc to fill europe

[harsh hull]

China content will be fine, Japan will get hella debuffs to prevent them from actually winning without player intervention

But good golly, will nobody think of the shareholders

[umbral wigeon]

50 dollar dlc

[harsh hull]

This guy gets it

[umbral wigeon]

3 country focus trees

uhhh

and uhh

looks at list of things

[hollow coral]

I dont know how that would affect the monetary vaue

[umbral wigeon]

new feature that makes your units desert or defect

i do think all the pdx dlc is overpriced

all of it

for how little your given

[hollow coral]

Maybe a bit overpriced

[umbral wigeon]

also battle for bosphorus being really bad apparently

[hollow coral]

It is

[umbral wigeon]

and is a buggy mess

[hollow coral]

only pretty good tree is bulgaria

[harsh hull]

And you know what, Moustache Man can flee to Japan and become the Shogun

Why not

[umbral wigeon]

no no nonon

wait

i got a better idea

[hollow coral]

Greece is lacking content compared to the others and turkey is long and grindey

[harsh hull]

And Mussolini claims the Mandate of Heaven

[umbral wigeon]

"agent hitler Fbi"

[solid gyro]

zapadoslavia the lost dream

[hollow coral]

Why not

[umbral wigeon]

i cant be the only one who remembers that show?!

[hollow coral]

We never accept italians in great qing

[umbral wigeon]

didnt hitler irl have alot of respect for japanese culture iirc?

[polar jasper]

Idk, but he began handing out "honorary Aryan" titles left, right, and center past 1942

[hollow coral]

Even to the chinese lmao

[umbral wigeon]

like n word passes

[polar jasper]

The Germans were helping the Chinese before the 2nd sino-japanese war

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[umbral wigeon]

ye they were gicing advsiors to help modernize their military

iirc

[polar jasper]

Yeah

[hollow coral]

Chinese rifles were literally just german rifles

[umbral wigeon]

unfortunatly the thing about teaching shit how to fight is well...

its still shit in the end

[hollow coral]

We only had swords bruh

[umbral wigeon]

seriously look at all the crap that happened with the chinese army

[hollow coral]

Thats why glorious mao came up on top

[stable tusk]

Into the Hitlerverse

[umbral wigeon]

from corruption to ALLEGEDLY recruits not knowing which end went where

[hollow coral]

Basically put mantanence companys on his men

[umbral wigeon]

oh no he was probably worse

"your hungry? eat the grass"

[stable tusk]

And stole guns from Chang Kai Chek somehow

That's not an option in Hoi4

[umbral wigeon]

the funny thing is

[hollow coral]

Yeh to they got into many border skirmishes until the united front collapsed

[umbral wigeon]

communist china exists because lightning got caught in a bottle more or less

[solid gyro]

my theory is that if japan never did the tripartite pact germany wouldve had a better chance

[umbral wigeon]

nah actually

[hollow coral]

Tell that to the japanese

[umbral wigeon]

germany never had to declare on the us

[solid gyro]

yeah

[umbral wigeon]

but germany did it anyways cause they arent blind

[solid gyro]

but they did becauase of japan and allat

[umbral wigeon]

the the us presence growing on the uk

reminder the tripartate pact was a DEFENSIVE alliance

[patent roost]

USA would have joined anyways, cuz GER subs were destroying USA convoys, and probably for even more complex reasons.

[solid gyro]

not all that complex

[umbral wigeon]

but the thing iswe couldnt hide behind the merchant vessals

[hollow coral]

I love latest update channel and totally not throwing enyclopedia paragraphs

[solid gyro]

real

[median lichen]

femboy hitler

[solid gyro]

what

[umbral wigeon]

you have my attention

[solid gyro]

Dang shaken, not stirred is still bugged out ://

[solid gyro]

Tfw I've done it in every game for the last 5 years and still don't have it

[peak oxide]

You had me at femboy part but immediately lost me at hitler

[elder fjord]

Hey as long as the femboy is healthy

[harsh hull]

Minor grammatical errors?

In MY grand strategy games?

I'm furious

[rocky oasis]

No, the government is socialist ideals.

[harsh hull]

Kid named socialism:

[rocky oasis]

Or would it’s be referring to the people

Either the government or the people are socialist ideals.

[polar jasper]

The people and it is socialist ideals.

[random oracle]

is thier a seasonal thing going on HOI4 where everyone is able to try the dlc's? I personally prefer the game without DLC the game already has so much going on the pop ups are a bit annoying.

[thick edge]

I don’t think so

[random oracle]

im only asking because the game thinks i own the new dlc when i haven't purchased it

[pseudo wing]

Some things were added for free, like the historical germany tree and the science/special project stuff, so its not that it recognizes you have the new DLC, but rather we added stuff for free already as well

(unless its actually saying you own Gotterdamerung then that is weird)

[fading walrus]

In what way is a military dictatorship socialist

[thick edge]

I don’t have money to buy goi4 for a freind

Dang

Who wants to fuel an addiction

I mean habit

[jovial furnace]

where is that '90% off'?

[south meadow]

dawg no gotterdammerung discount

[jovial furnace]

chak?

i cant see any 90%-s

oh wait its not even in hoi4, i have been lied to

[thick edge]

Oh?

Paradox?

[pallid hollow]

He can't come to the channel at the moment as he's currently on a task!

To answer it for you, it's up to 90% on some Paradox items, games, DLCs etc. In this case, HOI4 is up to 70% off on selected items!

[daring forge]

it came out like two weeks ago, it usually takes a while before they go on discount

[pallid hollow]

As for why it says 90% on the initial announcement, we were given general assets, so apologies on that! ^^

[jovial furnace]

alr, i just dont get it if its hoi4 discord, where the main topic is hoi4 (which has 70% discounts at max) then why is it advertised here as up to 90%

[pallid hollow]

I understand where you're coming from! It's a PDX wide Autumn Sale, which includes the other titles, such as EU, Victoria etc which is why we all use the general banners! ^^

[daring forge]

you can also see that it's a general paradox and not hoi specific graphic by the suspicious lack of macarthur

[thick edge]

Why does a sale happen when I have no money

This is rigged

They are watching our bank accounts

👀

[south meadow]

why does toa don't have sale tho

[thick edge]

No one likes toa

[pallid hollow]

Generally speaking, most DLCs need to have been released for a while before they go on sale!

[pallid hollow]

Don't mind me, it's been a long day 😂

[south meadow]

didn't like toa release like 8 months ago

[pallid hollow]

Back in March, yeah!

[austere pelican]

If i integrate my austrians vassal after changing habsburg as their rules, will they still have habsburg if i release them later? I want to do the achievements with 3 habsburgs and switzerland but its getting to the late game and would love some cores as im doing some other achievements on the same run too

[keen ferry]

@pseudo wing will there be a christmas sale ?

or @pallid hollow

[south meadow]

yeah in 22 days

you can check in steamdb

[keen ferry]

thanks man

[unique roost]

I think Paradox doesn’t like toa either

[fresh cedar]

What makes you say that?

TOA was one of the most fun DLC. People just hated it because it wasn’t a European dlc and had alt history

[keen ferry]

especially brazil

[austere pelican]

They do 👍

[hexed mango]

ToA had good focuses but man that chile one was too complicated

[floral anvil]

Why is there no new content creator packs?

[thick edge]

how long is the auttutm sale

auttuam

autam

[solid gyro]

Until Dec. 4th

[solid gyro]

Will Graveyard of Empires come out in a similar time?

Or will u take Q1 2025 seriously and release it Jan 1st 👉 👈

[coral salmon]

Is the new germany expansion nice?

[thick edge]

yes

[mental onyx]

Did anybody else get yugoslavia to give up land the 2nd time when forming austria-hungary as austria?

They always seem to refuse no matter my army size

[timber cypress]

I had 200 divisions, a world alliance and yet (fascist) Switzerland declined the demand

[mental onyx]

I looked through the events for switzerland. Having an army as twice as large as switzerland and having the same ruling party as you increase its chances to be annexed.

I got their annexation first time I tried

[mental onyx]

Although, I advice to get them as early as possible for more chances of a peaceful annexation.

[trim quartz]

After messing around a bit in game, I’d say that this area, near Norwich (the closet and easily accessible port in game) is the best to paradrop on

I’ve tried several other places, including in far northern England and wales, but those parts lack ports and still have a lot of troops stationed there

Portsmouth is not bad, if you have powerful marines and a strong army then it’s possible to gain a foothold

Once again, I think this area is the best because it goes through the North Sea, Norwich is usually poorly defended, and enemy troops stationed elsewhere have limited time to react

It is also close to London

Now obviously there are other factors that play into a successful invasion, but in terms of actually landing, this spots great

[summer spear]

Anyone tested modern BBs yet?

[fresh cedar]

It’s always more cost effective just do normal WW2 stuff unless all you have is the modern

[fresh cedar]

It will most likely be March

Since you know, that’s also Q1

[dense gale]

Its good but u also get it at the point in time

[fresh cedar]

That’s when former DLC have released too

[dense gale]

Where its so late that anything works against ai

[summer spear]

I know that its costly and time consuming, just want to compare it to other BBs

[summer spear]

Any stats comparision with other BBs?

[fresh cedar]

Its stats are slightly better, its cost is not. Can just do quantity over something else and out compete the quality of that

Late game, the only really worth thing making would be Nuclear Subs imo

The modern carrier and battleship are simply too costly

[summer spear]

I mean, slightly better stats can change a lot in naval battle, especially for surface ships

[fresh cedar]

Not when the enemy has 3 ships V your 1

Naval is basically just stacked stats in a concentrated area with supporting factors

[summer spear]

You still can make other ships while waiting for modern BBs

[fresh cedar]

Why spend resources on 1 ship when you can have 3 and 200 support planes

Will say modern carriers are better than the Habakuk or whatever the ice one is

[summer spear]

Haven't tested them yet but tested Habakkuk and possibility of having carrier based medium planes is good, i would say

But haven't tested them in battle

[fresh cedar]

Base stats they’re good. Cost is not. Ability to replenish and field the cheapest but most effective vehicle is pretty much how you excel with navy

Now if you’re MP, they’ll be worth making. If SP, then no

[summer spear]

Finishing special project gives you a partially done Ice carrier in a construction queue

[fresh cedar]

Or you could just get like 8 nuclear subs with nuclear torpedoes that shreds entire fleets

And can be used as a rocket platform

Torpedoes are really OP now with naval

[summer spear]

You gonna wait more for these subs than for ice carrier tho

[fresh cedar]

Those later ships struggle to avoid them

[fresh cedar]

100%, I can make 6 carriers which equates to more storage in the same time.

I think the ice carrier takes like 1200-1600 days to research?

Modern carriers superior to it imo

[summer spear]

Haven't tested them yet, can't compare

[fresh cedar]

I’ve made some and they’re good just costly

Late game or MP they can be worth

I just don’t think any of it is ever needed in SP

Bc SP is more about numbers

[summer spear]

How costly, can you just send empty hull screenshot?

[fresh cedar]

When I’m on in like 30 mins sure

[summer spear]

In SP you can do memes and get away eith it easily

[summer spear]

Okay

[fresh cedar]

If we’re talking MP they’re all worth it

But you don’t want your entire fleet to be composed of it

You just won’t produce enough even with like 1000 dockyards

It’s just that slow

[summer spear]

One Habakkuk can be equivalent in cost to 1 fully equiped SHBB, so yeah

[fresh cedar]

The research itself is grossly long too

[summer spear]

Yeah

Nukes are faster to research

[fresh cedar]

I get it though, 4 ice carriers would technically field the biggest air wing for a fleet

I think they can hold like 160?

Though feel like Super Carrier was like 140

I’ll have to check

[summer spear]

1944 carrier and Habakkuk carrier with max hangars and MIO policy

[fresh cedar]

190 is really good

[summer spear]

Not really suited for actual naval battle tho

Due to speed

[fresh cedar]

Meanwhile super carrier is like lightning McQueen

And can get torpedo avoidance buffs

[summer spear]

I gotta also test nuclear engines

[fresh cedar]

Countering late game subs

Kinda sad Modern Cruisers aren’t a thing

Like missile cruisers

[summer spear]

They would make the most sense tbh

At least more than modern BBs

[fresh cedar]

IMO Ice carrier should have a shorter research window they can be fielded mid game as opposed to late

[summer spear]

Since the most modern BBs are literally ww2 BBs

[fresh cedar]

Modern makes sense bc real life ones were converted and used until the 90’s

But a standalone modern carrier is weird

[summer spear]

I managed to launch one as USA in 1943 without rushing it

[fresh cedar]

Would be effective in 1940-1944 mostly imo

1945 on and subs/aircraft would shred it

[summer spear]

They were Iowa class BBs with modern systems added

[fresh cedar]

Yup, like the New Jersey

That was also used in the gulf war to shore bombard

I got to visit it in real life

Do any ships gets Heli Pads? I know the Land Cruiser does

[summer spear]

Iowas were laid down in 1940-1941 if i remember correctly and launched in 1943-44

So 1944 BBs are already a bit of a fiction

Even tho there were late war and post war designs

While last US BB design was Montana Class which was basically slightly larger Iowa Class

[summer spear]

No idea, but helicopters are kinda dissapointing imo

Also it reminded me of hybrid BBs

[fresh cedar]

Late game helicopter brigade kinda does the job of 3 different support companies so frees up slots. Very worth imo

[fresh cedar]

To me they always seemed more like the Montana than the Montana was a Super Heavy

[fresh cedar]

I think in game the Montana may be considered a super heavy now. Could be wrong

[dense gale]

issue its too much a jack of all trade for the support

[fresh cedar]

Also Spain starts with them unlocked 😮‍💨

[dense gale]

chopter

i think its decent but ur slot limited

[fresh cedar]

For general infantry I agree but for units that have a single function like breakthrough can help when padding breakthrough in other support slots

[summer spear]

I mean Helis being more of a land unit than air unit

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah

For early helis though it Lowkey makes sense

Wish mid to late game you could replace scout planes on ships with helis though

[summer spear]

Main difference between them and Iowas was additional 3x 16 inch cannons if i remember correctly (combined with it being longer and slower)

[summer spear]

Wasn't it like that pre MtG dlc?

[fresh cedar]

Yeah legit just an upscaled Iowa

[fresh cedar]

They kinda reworked it in GDR

MTG did originally rework it though

[summer spear]

Yeah, it is a SHBB 2 without MTG

Virginia class is SHBB 1 and Illinois class is BB4

But the only US super heavy BB designs i am familiar with are Maximum/Tillman Battleships

[fading walrus]

Montana was a superheavy

And it was first designed in 1939

[summer spear]

I checked and according to wikipedia it has similar displacement so yeah, you are correct, i guess

Tho its still basically an upscaled Iowa

[south meadow]

is it me or gotterdammerung made the game slower

[solid gyro]

How do i use nukes?

[verbal wave]

where the raid button is located there is also a nuclear button

[acoustic wyvern]

anyone found a good use for missile besides nukes

[fresh cedar]

You’re super heavy

[stable tusk]

There should be an achievement in GoE called "Reclaim our Flag" or "A Second Tea Party" where as the Raj you bring back the British East India Company and take the original 13 colonies back

No reason why

I just thought of it

[summer spear]

Nah, if we look at displacement then Montana was comparable with Yamato

[tacit sequoia]

is hoi4 goin to update their multiplayer for better optimization so we don't have to play on 3 speed for the whole game if its one nation vs the world?

[mental onyx]

i was expecting a patch yesterday but oh well...
Hope it comes this week

[sick ridge]

what do you mean

[solid gyro]

Every dlc makes the game slower

[solid gyro]

The only way to optimize it is to change the game engine

[tacit sequoia]

damn

lets hope thats one of the new dlc mechanics

[chilly drum]

Might be today, steamdb is pretty active

Last update like two hours ago

Kinda understandable, we are in the atumn sale and leaving game broken for a major sales during weekend is kinda stupid

Btw, any steamdb activity is not a sign that there are actually going to be anything, its just a pure speculation

[daring forge]

not really feasible I think, changing engine would only really be worth it when making a new game probably

[dense gale]

pdx had a free weeknd on vic 3

on the same week as dlc release

[daring forge]

since there's a lot that needs to be redone

[dense gale]

do not underestimate pdx marketing

[hollow coral]

Its only a countrypack so it wont do much mechanics wise

[jovial furnace]

what colonies can i claim as germany?

[pseudo wing]

We're trying to add a few more things to the patch so expect it early next week

[jovial furnace]

add the idk what its named tile which belgium gained in ww1, add muravidék, the most eastern tile of slovenia, and please let german hist. AI create historical reichkommisariats like poland, netherlands, belgium and moravia

suggestions 😄

[polar jasper]

They do?

Eupen Mulmaldy is already in the game

[jovial furnace]

is it?

[polar jasper]

And I have seen Germany make RKs on historical

Yeah click that Belgian tile right next to Germany

It is oversized, which is why it isn't a state

[jovial furnace]

i meant they should add it as a state

[polar jasper]

No

I don't see the need

[jovial furnace]

even if its small for historical german empire

[polar jasper]

Hardly noticeable

I don't see the purpose of 1 tile states

Danzig is stretching it

Same with katowice or whatever that province is

[jovial furnace]

welp, some of us would like to have it in game

[polar jasper]

It be a narrow sliver and make microing a bit more painful in the area

Since it will have to be an extremely tiny state

I'm just saying, use your imagination you got it

[jovial furnace]

if zaolzie was added to annex it then i dont see the setbacks of that state either

[polar jasper]

1. I don't like one tile states
2. Eupen Malmady is smaller than that

Would I be angry eupen malmady is added to the game, no.

I just don't see the need of it

Devs could put more effort in a gameplay feature than having to spend effort to put the tiniest state in the game

[barren tusk]

guys i have a question. What's up with bots using paratroopers to defend in the frontline???

[south meadow]

what country?

[barren tusk]

is not defined in a country

i found several for example in germany

or france

or spain

[south meadow]

must be some focus that sdpawns paratroopers

or the ai since it got better at macro researches it

and deploys it

[barren tusk]

that means ai can now paratroop?

[stable tusk]

Pretty sure they don't, haven't seen any

[primal hemlock]

i wish there was an option to do "produce equipment until-"

and a date

would be cool

[violet python]

which layout are these one please ? to nuke

[thick edge]

Why do we need multiple bombers for 1 bomb

[pseudo wing]

most bombs (like nukes) travelled in plane groups of 5-20 planes to make sure it got to it's destination

aka bullet shields/targets that could fight back

[thick edge]

Meat shields

But thx

[hollow coral]

I just hope devs will change dalmatia to two states so i can get real greater hungary borders🙏

[primal hemlock]

click the atomic button

[winter idol]

is there a way for turkey to conform back to the ottomans if you go monarch germany with the newest tree

[hollow coral]

They get the ottoman tag but idk if the leader will change

[winter idol]

huh?

[hollow coral]

Basically they become the ottoman empire with name and colour but idk if the leader changed

[winter idol]

no im talking about if theres a focus to influence them to become the ottoman empire

[hollow coral]

Yes

In the mitteleuropa path

[solid gyro]

Is anyone else experience bugs regarding the Austrian focus tree. Half the time to do certain missions to integrate the countries the decisions bug out saying one is already occurring even though one has not been done in a while

[mental onyx]

I haven't had that kind of problem but I often see you can do multiple anti-Anschluss decisions at once even though it says you can't.

I was doing the austria-hungary integration path.

Forming austria hungary before germany declaring war on you is hard because you have to win a war against yugoslavia and romania first on historical. Yugoslavia always denies the 2nd time you ask land.

I went into the bug forums and a dev says it is an intentional design that yugoslavia practically always deny the 2nd request for land.

[rugged gazelle]

Hi; in your opinion what are the most interesting paths you can do as Congo? I personally think monarchist Dom Petro VII is boring because after you conquer a bit of Angola you have 0 things to do.

[south meadow]

why do you even play as congo

[rugged gazelle]

Because it's diverse from playing in europe

[violet python]

Guys where is this 28cm kanone ?

[thick edge]

uhhhh

i think the army suppourt

suppourt companies

all the way at the bottom

near trains

but i think u need No Step Back for it

[violet python]

got it ! thank you !!

❤️ +

[fading walrus]

I mean Africa was a sideshow compared to Europa and Asia in wwii

[solid gyro]

Yeah but the decisions are bugged out half the time it says I’m already doing a mission even though one has not been done. Idk what causes that to happen I’ll have to test it

[worn depot]

I played Congo recently and Belgium barely contributed to our shared tree, like only did the care minimum focuses letting me do all the rest

[fresh cedar]

I’d hardly call it a sideshow. The Suez was integral to the allied war effort and losing North Africa weakened the Axis

Plus the amount of equipment dedicated was pretty staggering for the early war

[rugged gazelle]

Italy fought alone in the AOI and lasted one year without supply

And conquered a lot of Kenya and Sudan other than british somalia

[jolly bluff]

Would be cool if this was represented by a temporary buff

Allow the AOI to hold out for a year giving an Italy player a 1 year window to connect Libya and the Horn of Africa

[rugged gazelle]

Honestly I'm disappointed Aoi isn't instant created after you proclaim the empire

[vapid fractal]

anywone know what the red and green triangles mean ?

[stable tusk]

Those are for special project breakthroughs
Green is Land
Red is Air
Yellow is Physics/Nuclear
Blue is Naval
More you research stuff with those triangles, the more breakthroughs you can get

[vapid fractal]

thx alot

[stable tusk]

Np

[vapid fractal]

I don't have the new dlc what did they change to the base game?

[stable tusk]

You still have access to some special projects like Missles, Flame Tanks (if you have NSB), Cruiser Subs, Nukes, etc