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finlands fascist history path needst to have Vihtori Kosola
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makes me wonder about swedish claims to germany, to the future of hoi4 if there really is going to be a possible german rework?
like new states added to germany to make sure denmark sweden get their claims there (ik schleswig holestein is added but anything else in near future)
OH MAN
cant wait for AAT
me neither lol
cant wait to sell a LOT of my extra/surplus equipment and tech
kinda like AAT but, waiting for after that lol
cuz there's going to be 2/6 major powers that are going to need a rework... (germany & japan)
though it depends because there's still nations in europe that need trees (belgium luxembourg [hre path i bet] and austria) though there's many in asia like Siam, Dutch East Indies, Malaysia, etc.
alr
cant wait for the military industrial organization and support companies change
true
@solid gyro what other AAT features and changes are you awaiting in AAT
the focus trees lol
it got boring having generic trees for denmark, sweden, finland, and norway
though i wonder if iceland is getting something when they get independence during WW2
alr
im awaiting for the INTERNATIONAL MARKETS feature
ngl
winter wars mod developers gonna be happy once they see this dlc lol
alr
though question for finnish tree
whats the "Confederation of Finno-Russian Republics?"
like is that going to be the Finno-Uralic tree of Finland like estonia has theirs?
hmm
dont know
i mean if its going to be that? pretty cool then lol
luxembourg really doesn't need a tree tbf
and basically most trees need reworks too
LaR and before need new ones mostly
some just updates
some
would be funny if it had an HRE path tho
just give them an option to form it without giving them a path
the default tree needs a rework, that really is enough for luxembourg
can't believe that to be democratic as finland you need to become socialist
unless they changed it since the DD which i really hope
democratic socialist finland...
wait a min
is denmark going to get an anarchist path? or no
idk
what about it?
i did see this though
yeah fair
that one isn't really russian though
True
makes ya think somethings going to happen if they do that, though idk
there should be a path for finland to conquer finno-ugric stuff too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
cool flag though
wasn't there already in the fascist-like NA path?
i didnt see that afaik
even more
MTG trees are kinda shallow aswell, mostly in the political end
LaR are okay, but really should also be brought up to par
all of france's paths feel like they are unfinished except the democratic tree
yeah
france should get a syndicalist path (OMG, KAISERREICH REFERENCE??)
currently looking at past DD but goddamn, didnt realize i joined right as the best part of HOI4 started (La Resistance)
eh the specifics of the communist path doens't really matter a whole lot, the foreign policy matters most
not in the actual game, which is a shame
Who knows tho?
maybe nations will get their own dlc similar to the HRE
damn i totally ruined that message ^^ lol
this is where i got the idea of the HRE focus tree...
(accurate dlc idea because look at it, it shows technically what trees haven't been implemented right in HOI4)
belgium-germany-czechoslovakia-austria would be a pretty good lineup for a reworkupdate
hell i can figure out a funny achievement:
The German Mess
Release all the German States of the Holy Roman Empire with Otto von Habsburg as Ruler of Austria/Hungary.
meh full HRE releasables would be dumb
yeah since most of them havent gotten a tree and/or update since Death of Dishonor...
wait
german confederation with some cleaned up borders is enough
what about Hungary too?
yeah? hungary's tree sucks
yes but it'll make an alliance of the HRE if Austria will be able to make it
so it wont show the mess, it'll show the lines of each nation though with the alliance name "Germany" or something
nah german confederation still, HRE doens't really make sense
yeah, it fits more and is also cooler
but what about the italian achievement "Holy, but Roman, but Empire"?
german confederation > HRE
it's a memepath, just like the romanov path
ahh ok
wait a min
they should've made another meme achievement of "True Democracy"
True Democracy:
Play as Democratic Italy, or Constitutionalist Monarchy Italy, and form the Roman Empire. Then conquer the United States of America also.
like it'll have most of the big states, though it'll need the USA to be the "true democratic nation" lol
meh we already have enough "just world conquest lol" achievments
damn
ngl the german split of france confuses me
why doesn't any of the states have a part of the real germany? 
german split of france?
Does kydisti kallio beard glow while it's Halloween or Christmas?
ah
good question...
mostly cause the german borders suck kinda hard
Ahhahahah
so the releasables also will suck pretty hard
yeah but what if the germans do the kaiserreich path and do "danzig guarantees" decision? does it fix it up?
Bro economy will be so broken in hoi4 now
no? how would danzig/poznan fix it?
I'm scared I have to do real economics
prussia borders
Or maths
both are hard...
Yes
oh i thought you meant ALL the german releasables which just kinda suck
no not rly lol
probably ig
meant westphalia, bavaria, hannover, etc.
poznan should look a bit nicer so you can have a germany look ok without poznan
what would it have
Forts
ya got a point tho
for the love of god, get a graphics mod
and germany itself needs a rework
@solid gyro take spain
wasnt even my game lol, it was on reddit
French tree is good ngl
rhine borders should be fixed, hannover should really not have oldenburg, i'm honestly fine with the south, the middle definitely needs something else, and give thuringen to saxony
would normally use TNO mod to fix it
lol it's quite meh
would like to see more focuses about the french revolution, like hinting back at it
you basically only have the democratic tree cause the rest just feel unfinished
yes.... add it to the socialist path lol
If they do a Belgian focus tree they might aswell rework France and add Luxembourg for lolsies
second great terror, get rid of the right, and make sure the left is supreme... viva la france
luxembourg has no potentional for a tree
they should rework the default tree, more isn't really needed
german rework
@visual willow in kx they can for the HRE
and france doesn't really need a rework perse, just a hefty update
Or go commie
ok
but this isn't kaiserredux
add paths for monarchy instead of "revive the kaiserreich" like add more trees similar to the polish monarchist trees
So historical tree to take over Belgium and Netherlands?
the default tree being reworked would do 90% of the lifting
then do a handfull of focuses to like have mutual guarentees in the benelux, and maybe unite the benelux and change your capital so you're not really "luxembourg" either
and for shits and giggles give them the formable option for the HRE
i'd say rip for the storm mod
that had potential for a german rework, though now its abandoned
And you could like add a focus for the remember a westaphalia treaty And have a wargoal on sweden
restore the weimar republic
yes
BELGHIUMMMM
also spartakus revolt
germany doens't need 5 monarch trees lmfao
Yes we want comunist germanyyyy
3 at most
nahh wasnt thinking of that, meant the main ones like hohenzollern, ludwig of bavaria, and habsburgs..
where it is more a difference in foreign policy and not different monarchs
make absolutely no sense to have them be the german monarchs
kaiser wilhelm is literally still alive, if there was ANY unifed german monarchist movement it would be with him
Spartakist Germany with Rosa Luxembourg would be kool
she;s dead
rosa luxembourg died\
then again
The guys who survived
the leader of the third roman empire (russia) might be a zombie
The overhaul HoI4 deserves the most after AAT imo
yeah and after that the bulk of the balkans again
Austria man gets anschluss'ed
romania-hungary-yugoslavia-maybe greece updates to have it be just a tad expanded
still great potentional, especially if germany gets more althist
i thought there would be more german monarchs to expand upon
no not really
Austrian monarchy tree when
does that not already exist
they have like, nothing with germany
I would love to see a China or Mongolia tree
you'd be pulling a tree completely out of your ass to accommodate them
China rework
only hungary
especially cause the "core" hohenzollern family is the only one that makes sense
The Erfurt Union (German: Erfurter Union) was a short-lived union of German states under a federation, proposed by the Kingdom of Prussia at Erfurt, for which the Erfurt Union Parliament (Erfurter Unionsparlament), officially lasting from March 20 to April 29, 1850, was opened at the former Augustinian monastery in Erfurt. The union never came i...
yeah it fell apart fast
release bavaria as non-alligned
congrats!
most content they deserve
why? how?
was there ANY interest in putting him on the throne apart from 1 german's fanfic that was written 30 years later?
and what would he even do?
sell his country again?
For the German balance of power they could do them against the corporations
Communist Germany path, a better Democratic Germany path, reworked Czechoslovakia Political branch, Austria tree (must include Monarchist path of Austria-Hungary), and Belgium tree
exactly
Like krupp and other ones
Hopefully devs will take notice
i really don't want a BoP in germany, unless it works different then BBA
i don't think the denmark styled BoP would really work aswell
i like how you basically say nothing
Bop for Denmark is a thing though
"they should add default tree options in the german tree and expand the things everyone already says is bad!"
yeah and i'm saying that the way denmark approaches it wouldn't really work that superbly either
if they did get one, it would be between the military & militias i ain't specifying it because it'll be a #server-rules risk
@visual willow so u don't like father Christmas as a leader lmao
Now there is a point for Denmark achivement
aslong as it is marginally hidden like the romanov path
and not too "haha funny ridiculous meme, lets make it OP!!!" like pope italy
don't know anything about militias in ww2 germany
Middle East dlc would be cool too
i can
should have been a bit more like romanov poland where the tree itself is also fairly cool and is not carried by "haha meme!!!"
like with poland you need to first win a battle against the soviets and can then integrate countries in a slavic union, pretty cool of itself
wojak is a meme within a meme and is just the leader
i meant paramilitaries
like how germany gets the "hitler dies, choose between two leaders" path
meanwhile pope italy just gives you wargoals on practically EVERYONE, gives free super heavy tanks cause "haha", and then you can core all of rome without actually becoming rome iirc
one guy is on the airforce/has an addiction (rt56 yes)
and the other guy is a maniac. (other guy rt56 yes)
Well, what do you expect, a revolutionary tree that will promote space race? Default tree is the starting point, devs can make a great job out of it. Besides, it's not like the whole of Czechoslovakia tree is awful, it's the Political branch that has negative flavour and there's the matter of the nonsensical navy branch
well when you make a tree suggestion it would be pretty handy if you actually suggested stuff that isn't "red germany"
like, what would the red germany do specific, "comintern germany" is already 10x more effort in the suggestion
I'm just here to express the feeling that expanding on one aspect the Germany tree would be cool, somewhat better than saying "Germany needs rework" or "Balkan trees are trash", which doesn't add much to the table except shallow feedback
it could have wilhelm pieck for stalinist germany, and someone else for council germany....
it adds just as much as saying "they need a communist tree" and "better democratic tree" which are so vague that they fit in the sentence "germany needs a rework"
possibly a FAUD path for syndicalist germany lol
i mean the leader is more flavor/explenation then anything
what the trees let you do matters most
a comintern tree would be pretty cool if, after destroying poland, there is an event that either gives the USSR the russian empire borders or "ask" (read: force) a polish puppet-border state
Just for the sake of speaking about Czechoslovakia, which is in one of the worst shapes imo:
The current state of it gives almost zero possibility of playing on the theme of ethnic divisions in the country pre-war
There's like what, a couple of focuses that somewhat affect the "Divided Nation" spirit? Adding a larger Democratic branch that would either work on strengthening the central government coalition or make concessions to the Slovak and German parts of the nation could be a way of managing internal affairs before the war. And both Fascist and Communist branches should tap on that too by either appealing to a foreign power (Germany/Soviet Union) or just consolidating a national fascism or socialism. Also, German appeasement sub-branch is awful, a few more focus options to trade and exchange with Germany would be nice
czechoslovakia rn is deadass just a DoD level default tree with a special faction, self destructive path, and 1 spirit 
oh and forts but bleh
honestly a german appeasment path as ai-only path is acceptable to me
thing is it's like, their only remotely unique path
i'd also like to see it for an austira path
where you just straight up ask germany to annex you
would only be a thing for optimal MP games or the AI picks it, but that is fairly acceptable considering for austria it's also believable
It's ironic how the only surviving Democracy in Central Europe by 1936 has the worst Democratic sub-branches in the game, with near zero possibility of preparing and defending itself against Germany through the Democratic branch "except" by giving up the Sudetenland which the Germans request eventually anyway
i mean against the AI (and hell, some players ig) the forts are pretty great
but they are just so bland and not related at all to your political poth
ngl
this makes me ask a question about anschluss austria
why doesn't germany get the sudtyrol claim?
cause it isn't in their tree
yeah but shouldnt germany get it for hell of it?
like
just the claim w/o wargoal n shit, if you want to do a lil trolling on mussolini
south-tyrol shouldbe squashed somewhat aswell
irl it wasn't as "pointy"
like look at it
yeah
this is it irl
also austria doesn't core it anymore for some reason which is weird
yes
lmfao
As SOON as AAT releases im gonna sell and buy LOTS/LOADS of equipment and tech to and from other nations
The Military Industrial complex is real
Iran-Contra affair in hoi4
Proxy wars gonna get crazy
civ greeding as sweden by selling all that equipment and selling all that steel
My favorite Road to 56 easter egg
fun fact: the type of beverage spit out depends on the country that gets this event
I think u can guess which one i was playing
Bri'ish prob
Shut up
We earn it
If we did not had it our border would be easy to invade
So we took it too
Cry abt it
Ww1
what mod is this
Road to 56
thanks
Ok? Doesn't mean austria shouldn't have a core on it?
Austria should sit and cry
Cuz they suck at war
And they lost to a new country
I don't know how that is even relevant
I mean if you're looking solely at austria vs italy both sucked
No
12 battles of the isonzo lmfao
Italy after reforming was unstoppable
We got all the way back to Caporetto
And the Allie’s betray us
Not giving us what we deserved
They did not respect the treaty of London
I think a core on the northern region would also make more sense then a claim on borh places
Since iirc austria didn't even claim the region
Il Piave mormorava calmo Placido all passaggio dei primi fanti il 24 maggio 😈
Il Piave mormorò non passa lo straniero
Rule 1 
Get some b1tches
Go outside take a shower
Do you take showers outside???
Mini modding is glazing at its finest
I could
Because Italy conquered it doesn’t mean it didn’t have a German minority
Also Italy was trash in the war until they got new commanders
"Minority"
The north is just german, next to no italians there
Yeah
Shouldn’t have said minority
Is not just Germans
Is full of Italians now
Cry abt it
No?
Yea ?
They are literally autonomous lmfao
No
“It’s full of Italians NOW” hoi4 starts in 1936
💀
Well idc
Even then it's just flatout wrong
I got 2897 h
Shut up
You can literally google their status
Well I got 5 billion power in rise of kingdoms
does that matter?
no it doesn’t
I got 8 billion power because i chooses the egiptians that gets me a 5% bonus in resources and a 15% in defense
My power rises quickly because I chose Japan which gets the 5% warrior boost allowing me to expand into china easily and get 10 billion power
I am in the top 5 alliance which is combined 700biion power
😱
😈
South Tyrol (German: Südtirol [ˈsyːtiˌroːl, ˈzyːttiˌʁoːl] (listen); Italian: Alto Adige [ˈalto ˈaːdidʒe]; Ladin: Südtirol), officially the Autonomous Province of Bolzano, is an autonomous province in Northern Italy, one of the two that make up the autonomous region of Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol (the other being the Autonomous Province of Trent...
Come on buddy, surely you're not this stupid about something you are so adamant about
He's just a troll
now that Super-Heavy tanks are support companies, what changes?
Will there be a sale alongside the dlc release or a sale relatively soon? It's a great chance to get friends into the game but the base price is way too high....
sales usually scattered across the year but usually for summer and winter
Ma in una notte trista
Si parlò di un fosco evento
Ahi, quanta gente ha vista
Sei italiano ?
Si fra
Porcodio il primo italiano su discord
HAHAHAHHA
Palese
Btw if we speak italian they will probably purge us
Damnnn
Fr
This guy
one thign they can do in an generla update is allow you to create factions no matter what branch you go. doign none align Netherlands and i can create a faction
Anyone know when the new feature breakdown might come out?
When is Baltic update coming?
probably end of next week
I believe Germany (AI for sure) will no longer be able to invade Norway. Britain can strike force from Scapa Flow and prevent Germany from ever doing a landing.
I know the Quisling coup might cause a civil war which might let the germans ship troops over, but I think Norway is completely safe from Germany otherwise
the old system Norway can’t move ships between oslo and its western ports
Im sure Germany will have enough ships to attempt to convoy escort to Oslo after quislings coup
Did hoi just get a 7gb update?
No
It should say “verifying files”
It happened to me last night
It’s the great verification
PURGE THE NON VERIFIED
Maybe one of your mods updated
yea it was doing that
i thought early acces to new focus trees 😦
Don’t think aat is 7 gigs lol
Kaiserredux had a big update
Ah
^ it was just this when I had it a bunch others did
How good is 1.12.1 version of Kaiserredux?
no
I’m ready to play as Denmark and ||surrender||!
Swedish focus tree is good, though I wonder if there’s going to be a profile reveal of Sven Olaf Lindholm?
If you check the replies he may be there, I am not 100 percent sure.
There was someone on the forum looking at leaders or advisors and CraniumMuppet posted a bunch of them
The First Communist nation to be able to join the Axis based
i've noticed that this focus for sweden has finland with karjala, but not with petsamo which is off. i assume it's a lil oversight?
Maybe, but idk maybe Sweden didn't control the territories when they owned Finland
also i really hop[e that after doing atleast 2 the third one will just automatically fail as people will just see through your BS
lmfao, they did the RT56 "Aland Issue"
respect for both developers of RT56 & HOI4
well they are both approaching from the same angle
true
I love the fact that you can sometimes do an anschluss with norway or finland in the rd56 tree
especially finland is satisfying since they are a bit harder to kill
im excited for the denmark tree lol...
i'm more excited for the swedish tree >:)
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also looking forward to do a nordics game with some friends with the mutual focus tree
looks lit
This is the Fascist leader?
yep
Based
Sven olof lindholm
though i thought he'd be blonde?
cuz most photos that are colorized show that
Maybe
Doesn't matter tho
He and Primo De Rivera are like the bests looking leaders
true
im waiting for denmark tho...
his face looks a bit too.... smooth though
I wanna see the Unite models
true
He just uses alot of Mousturizer
Moisturizer*
you can see bits of cheek bones n shit but... its still smooth
MYbe Baby face
But
I wonder how the Nordic unity tree works for Fascists
Good morning/evening/night!
Summer break is over here in Sweden, most of the team is back from vacation and it's full steam ahead towards the finnish line. As mentioned in the last Swedish DD there’s two designers for the Swedish tree, so you...
Why is Aland still demilitarized?
1/10 cancelling preorder literally unplayable
they likely just annexed all the states to show it
real
wonder what the core pop of that is anyway?
if they wanted to really larp as a nordic union, they should've given cores on pommeraina and southern schleiswig
that would be even more bussin
Will norway get cores on England?
i even said that lol
that would be more of denmark due to the "North Sea Empire"
You can get compliance via decision but not core it
oh wow game dev o:
that's sick :D
pommerania wasn't really integrated I suppose, so getting compliance makes sense
And pretty German during ww2
what about southern schleiswig
do you also get compliance on it through a focus or is it only pommerania
I think you can see the decision in one of the comments in the Dev diary, I don't recall of the top of my head
oh okay I need to check it out again, I didn't see all of it
either way i'm so hyped for this
Cool 🙂
Is just me or is like a third of this Empire just leningrad?
Also I wonder if you can change it the name.
I feel like some Sweden Fascists would not keep the name Leningrad, dunno why 
(we finally managed to have the communist path on the left and the fascist one on the right)
Literally unplayable
I'm kinda realizing
If there is gonna be a south american dlc
The amount of leader portraits they're gonna have to make is insane
Art team is gonna go crazy
(never)
(hoi4 HATES south america)
Brazilians trying to play a casual Red Brazil run, when a bunch of monarchists suddenly start a civil war because Portugal decided to commit a little mischief on them
Playing as Brazil i was able to conquer all of south America and launch an invasion into the US
i hope they add a custom nation designer
How much more then is already in the game?
Ecuador went through like 5 Presidents from 1936-1940 alone, this is counting the various coups and changes in power in nations like Paraguay, Venezuela, and Bolvia which I know changed leaders atleast once
And that's only the historical ones, you also need ones for the Alt-paths
Easy solution: just program the larger SA nations to swallow the smaller ones up so the coups don't happen 
N o
by that logic they need to update almost all the democracies in the game because they all have the incorect leaders at any given time
John Curtain wasnt even in the prime ministerial seat in Australia until 1941 
France too
South Africa
In South America having like 10 different presidents within a year is basically 90% of their history
i wonder if the millenium dawn mod correctly has italy changing leaders and having elections every year lol
South America was so unstable back in the first half of the 20th century, devs might need to invent some new coup mechanic for the region lol
yes and its hilarious
Actually, Russians are more like 10 to 20 percent of the population. It is a very big empire: the Baltics, Nordics, and industrially Russian part of the empire is very poor compared to Nordic countries.
Next dlc if it isn't a rework should be southeast Asia
Dutch east indies,British Malaysia, philliphines, Thailand , and maybe French indochina
Dude
Even today most latino american nations in the 1939 start date have a generic leader portrait
The same guy rules like 5 countries
middle east has more potentional then most of those
2 of them are sealocked with no navy at all
and british malaysia honestly.... idk why it's even independent
should just be annexed tbf
For more immersion
There is lot of useless countries in the game which only purpose is to exist on the map
But I get the point
Next DLC should be Belgium, austria and some other country (Czechoslovakia, Germany), or middle east
except the difference is is that those actually exist
british malaysia is just..... there
Any good 30w Soviet River Line Template?
wrong channel!
i just placed it in ask for help and I am about to do so in general
Feels controversial that British Malaya is autonomous but Egypt ended up fully "annexed" to UK
Sad
I mean not having every single protectorate as independent is for sanity sake
But like.... was british malasyia even a unified colony at the time???
No
Which makes it just even weirder for them to be a country
As far as I remember they mentioned Scandinavian, Middle Easter and one or even two South American DLC's were planned back in BBA or NSB Dev Diaries
(In the comments that is)
I especially remember a directive being Brazilian and wanting a Brazilian update
I've never heard anyone say that, idk if you can find it back
But 2 south america dlcs would be such a waste, the region is nowhere influentional enoigh to warrent 2 whole dlc
That one only mentioned italy and maybe the nordics though
There was something about country packs
But I'm sure that 2 South american DLCs weren't there
I think there was middle east
But it's like 2 years ago
@eternal vector
coward
im not a facist
i simply do not believe guns should heavily be restricted to certain people
american
this isnt the place to talk about that
what is bro yapping about 💀
Bro just out of nowhere
I don't get urgency of some people to share totally random and unrelated things in this chat

malaya is integrated puppet but yeah egypt should be protectorate cuz they were
I don't think it should be as simple as "they where a protectorate" to makr them a starting country
A shitton of colonies where protectorates
Having them all be independent would be hell
They should have Egypt independent, but have the option to go into an colony
i mean they should sure as hell start as a colony
And make it so you could slowly get independence
I still wonder why "puppet" is less autonomous than "colony"...
Puppet is just broad
uhhh
i was plaing hoi4
as mosley
i helped exile ethiopian forces, though i got it while being at war with them supporting italy
is that a bug? or is it normal?
Are they going to aad unique ship icons for the presets?
Paradox doesn't seem to have any intention of fixing the shitty Soviet AI.
We will see
well, any ai rather
It will be critical for the Soviet Union when they add continuation war and they won't touch Soviet AI
lol no they still sucked before
Of course
But they will suck even harder if they will need to fight on another front
But there's a chance that German ability to spam infinite amount of divisions will be reduced with resource balance, so the Soviet AI will maybe have chance against Barbarossa.
Hey there
Anyone knows about a mod that allows you to change the category of your states in game?
Oh wait, wrong chat
Great! Thanks!
why are you building civs 😭😭
the wars technically over so he is just making the population happier!!!!
real
civ greed in 1941 :trolle:
32° 19' 5.6280'' N and 86° 54' 8.2728'' W @lime crane
Civ greed supremacy
I never stop spamming civs 💪
civs must be built
yes!!
and he had not defeated UK
Damn this chat is so dead, people are still talking about a screenshot from 2 days ago lmao
Well that's because the new DD isn't out yet :p
lol. really pumped for monarchist sweden
peace scores need to be fixed
I was france, did all the major pushes for the allies, took berlin, and yet I only got 4 states out of the war
No, peace score is already quite good
like, do the major push doesn't mean you have the most participated
no but like the front wasnt moving until my troops did all the work, meanwhile the other allies get a million warscore for taking some useless non core territory
its dumb as hell
there is not just taking territory into account
like taking territory is a part but not everything
it would be like if the soviet union didnt get anything out of ww2, or if the USA didnt get anything after the pacific war
You have
-How much occupation you done
-How many plane you destroyed
-How many ship you destroyed
-How many convoy you sunk i think
-How much soldier you killed
-How much of your soldier died i think
-How much weapon you landleased
Well, in pacific USA did all the heavy lifting so it take All, UK was here but got only minor thing
yeah but I did everything on the continent and barely got anything
In europe it was Both Soviet and Usa having done the major lifting so they took the major part
it would be like if the UK occupied japan instead of uSA
Have you shot down plane ?
Have you sunk ship
How much german you killed
Before, it was just territory taking into account, then it was change to something allowing everyone to have a chance
you understand, it's not fair to say nyuh i do the pushing but nothing else, exploiting damage done by the allie so i should have all
Use player lead peace or toollit
It's impossible to make a perfect war participation distribution system that works in every scenario
Actually, i find player Lead peace kinda like an exploit
Like you can do nothing from all the war and just take all at the end
as i said, the dude probably think he participed a lot but in fact, if it's war participation was so low, it was probably not so much
As i said, doing attack and opening gap doesn't count
Yeah if you use it like a cheat it definitely is
But you can just make more "sensible" peacedeals with it
as i said, i think the actual warscore calculation is way better than before
UwU?
Absolutely basedd
Will be Spamming these
Also
Can someone explain how the Kalmar Union tree will work for Communist, Fascists/Monarchists?
Because I know the Democrstic tees naturally extend to it, but I don't understand how it'll work for the others
nah such a hard choice
restore rule over baltics
restore the danelaw
or avenge 1864
I am surpriser that swedish monarchist doesn't have a focus like : Avenge Poltava
fr would be cool
i'm biased but it would be cooler if the monarchy path was more in depth, but again it is just sweden so ig they didn't wanna xD
A painful journey since im playing it on mobile
the base game is enough,
I would have to beg to differ
Might be easier than by mouse
Wrong chat tho
nah the AI usually gets too much in peacedeals cause the game cares more about amount of battles then actual participation in winning the war
Amount of battle is what matters most
.....no?
if i make 1 great breakthrough and encircle the entire army abd that is only like 12 battles i should NOT be below the shitty AI that had 100 battles they lost in
cause they just battleplan whilst forgetting something important (i thought it might be air? idk)
Doing is system like this is super hard
Which is why "base game is enough" just isn't true
I already said it was impossiblr
id like to see a update which adds new combat regiments and battalions
like stormtroopers and rangers
They are not going to add the god damn Waffen-SS as a special super division into the video game
Take the nazi larping elsewhere
sorry
Plus it wouldnt make sense
can i mod them in then?
They weren't some sort of "elite regiment" or any sort of specially organised division, in most cases they were less efficent than the Wehrmacht and not all that well trained
Theres already mods that add them probably
Theres "SS Divisions" in the game already
They are treated like every other division, you just cant edit them. You get them via event
Rangers as like forest special forces would be ok ig, kinda like rt56
There was no stormtroopers in WW2
The Sportabteilung, got dissolved
alr
The term "stormtroopers" was only used coloqually by Americans to describe certain "elite" german divisions
It was more a descriptive term than any actual millitary organisation
ill still add them in into my HOI4 MULTI MOD
Road to 56 adds "shock troops" iirc which you could larp as being stormtroopers
The only real army that utilised "shock troops" into WW2 was the Soviets as part of deep operations
Pretty sure they called them Strike troops instead tho
a special forces for jsut urban areas seem redudant
Alr
Rangers are gonna be a specialized support company
yes ik i saw in the vid
but i meant a actual combat battalion regiment
But they def. Should make a SS militia division
agreed
Mostly because the Italians have the blackshirts
yes ik
there already is?
appoint himmler
then you can recruit ss "millitia"
im gonna mod in the SS
But they're made up of Regukar infantry
I mean Militia with a cap like Italy and the Blackshirts
yeah the militia battalions suck ass anyways
only switzerland has them like remotely decent
as a very GOOD SF combat battalion and regiment
Idk, they seem Decent
dont worry Comm v5
im gonna mod in the SS
lol what
to my HOI4 MULTI MOD
what
nobody can stop me
from having ideas for new units and templates
On a side note, is there any reason why Hungary and Bulgaria don't have a Focus to switch sides?
idk
I feel like that should've been added with the smaller updates
didn't hungary just become a german puppet eventually
also bulgaria has a mechanic to switch sides, not a focus
Only if they do Integrated war effort
the fatherland front comes up eventually
well i meant irl
Well yes, but you don't get to play as them
~
tag BUL
Yeye, but that's cause Hungary tried to switch sides and Germany Invaded
or D04
Well ye, but I like playing on Ironman sometimes+don't like using commands so much so that's more my gripe
sounds like a "you" issue yeah 
Most Defined
also a revolution is definitely the accurate part of bulgaria
Definitely*
they did absolutely jack shit during ww2, then got a revolution/coup just before the soviets wanted to just waltz through them anyways despite being "neutral"
I thought ghe government just switched aides
alr
Well ye, but I assumed a King Micheal Situation
Ww2 week by week just got to that part so I'll know more soon enough
even there the government was literally couped
the king just said "ait mate F you get out" and then appointed someone else
Ye, so like a focus could be cool and allow you to play them
focus would be weird
True
just.... give an option when it happens🤷♀️
for romania a focus definitely makes more sense
for bulgaria? no not really
hungary idk really
those 2 are irrelevant to each other 
oh hungary just got occupied by germany whilst trying to not die
not really a "switch sides"
if Germany had won the WW2 eastern front they would have a LOT of manpower resources materials and etc
Hungary shoukd have something like Vichy France
no not really
wdym
they would have to occupy the extra land
Where they can do the focus and Germany coukd have a decision to invade
most of the resources will take like 10+ months atleast to get up and running
and by then they would be nuked thrice
what
yeah probs wouldnt happen
even with a collapse of the red army
you know the nukes where meant for germany right
im just speculating
ah yes i do know
but Germany also had a nuclear program called URANPROJEKT
lol
completion date anno 2040
it was completely unorganised and had no funding at all
they knew like, that uranium fission was probably important for nukes
but that's about it
alr
they wouldn't be able to get much uranium either
alr
nor have much air/bombers to even deliver a nuke
rocket program.... it could ig?
but then you're dealing with ww2 rockets
best historical source available: call of duty
im pretty sure it wasnt a real weapon
wunderwaffe
was there an update that changed the belorussian flag?
There was an update changing all of them
Or the Majority
I know alot of Communist flags changed
german mountaineer div in the support company changes?
new model?
ah must be some countries getting new models with the special forces rework
They already showed some of new 3D models for special forces in some DD
We are gonna need more support companies.
They revealed alot of the newer models in the Special Forces Dev Diary
If the ones we have are balanced (and the ones that will come) then more would be too excessive
Unless it can fill a really niche point
I am trying to decide which of my usual companies to sacrifice.
it is too soon to decide which support companies will be useful and which will not
Hard Attack for recon tanks 😍
that will be a nice addition to armored divisions for multiplayer
Idk, paradropped tanks sound like they can be used universally
We can alreadry paradrop with support tank recon
I would never use a light tank support company on my holding infantry. it would consume fuel to move and production in exchange for useless stats
imagine as germany being out of fuel for your planes and tank divisions just because you put light support tank on your 20w 10/0 infantry that is there just to make a frontline
oh damn mustve forgotten then
anyone know when the new dlc will be out ?
Oct 10
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it was in the dev diary that released this week for Alt History Denmark
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I believe they are simply specific units that get different uniforms but I'd have to reread the developer diary, you can read it here for yourself https://pdxint.at/485rITq
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ofc 
Can we see the Norweigan models? 👉 👈
Unless they were shown in the DD's I don't have them, perhaps check the Norway Alt-Hist Dev Diary, they could be in the pinned comments or at the end of the dev diary for the models
(wrong link sent one second)
Sadly not that I know
I like the idea how as Norway, you can just throw Trotsky back to the USSR after he causes troubles in your country.
You can do that as mexico too
Yeah, but he didn't actively cause trouble.
In Norway, I just see the government going, "Alright, we let you stay here, but you became too annoying, back to Russia you go."
Mexico is, "haha, we lied to you, off to Russia you go."
Has anyone ever actually had Trotsky repatriated as Stalinist USSR? Is there an event where Stalin puts him on a show trial or something?
Or does he just die instantly? Because irl Stalin wanted Trotsky to be put on a show trial and executed instead of assassinated
He is shipped, made to confess, and that is that
He dies basically
Ah ok. And then you just lose Trotsky debuff?
No, you still have to deal with purges I believe
I wish there was a news event for that tho
Yeah I mean the one that gives you -stability and pp
I know what you mean, I am still pretty sure you have to do Behead the Snake or whatever
I think
Oh ok, that’s strange. Thanks for letting me know tho cause I’ve never had that happen when I play Soviet
I just knew what the event the Soviets get when Trotsky gets shipped, but the point of Trotskyite Plot is that it is the followers of Trotsky plotting
Ahh ok gotcha
And you have to deal with all of them, killing Trotsky isnt enough
Yeah makes sense
Wait how will Trotsky be in Mexico but also in a Nordic country at the same time?
He was in Norway before going to Mexico
But what if they both go Trotskyist rout
Mexico can't go Trotsky route if he never arrives in Mexico
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np
in 2100 mountaineer divisions should have jetpacks and 500+ breakthrough with 50+ soft attack compared to normal inf at the cost of 7x more ic cuz jetpacks are expensive
whoevers in the jungle should have like 94248325823c flames that doesnt harm its user and only the enemy and is see through so +750 soft attack compared to normal inf
and marines should be able to do 10000x more pushups due to drugs so -500% intel and enemies basically cant see you because they think its just some performer doing 10k push ups
What XD?
Hoi5 stats leak
Bro what are u talking about 2100
Bro is fluent in yapanese 💀

waiting for german rework after AAT
possibly austria, belgium, luxembourg (dunno why they exist, maybe they can be subjugated for german confederation focus or smth?)
Idk they already did a rework
And they still got a bunch more nations to get focuses for
Germany rework overrated.
Gimme my Commonwealth Nations and Southeast Asia update
they all need a rework lol
here's the real question though.
when da oil nation trees
Germany is mostly fine, shows its age, but still quite playable
not usa, thinking middle east
I thought they found all their oil after ww2
I don't see a middle east dlc as fun
Like what do you do? Invade thr UK and/or France? Turkey too maybe
unite arabia?
So declare war on the UK and have to take London?
pretty much or teaming with USSR
Because there is hardly any features to not have to do a full total war
wait a min
And the ones that do exist are rng dependent
didnt iraq want to be allies with the germans?
Looking at you Ethiopia
Well yes, then they got invaded very quickly
Britain made sure to secure them quickly the moment they leaned towards Germany to keep their oil
ngl
they should change his leadership in 1939 (if you were to play non-aligned full game)
They do have the guys portrait for fascist Iraq
some parts need rework in hoi4 so its like rt56 lol
like independent egypt, palestine, possibly middle east too, though who knows
I would like to disagree. There is no need for any of them, except maybe egypt, to be independent
kinda pissed hoi4 didnt let ya form rome as socialist italy ._.
only before hand during pre-BBA but, it feels empty
Do it as Christian Democracy Italy
the monarchist italy yeah, though communist roman empire is cool lol
Your ruling party is blue, but you can continue your imperialist dreams
Yeye, but I doubt they'll do another
Especially since they have basically not been making communist trees for some nations
Tbf switzerland has a bit more of a "whatever" tree
Most other countries have a communist path basically
Belgium and Austria for me
what potentional does luxembourg have
paradox is introducing Weapon Trades, next dlc there could be tax evasion and Luxemburg would have a massive potential as tax heaven 😄
😱
no
monaco,andorra,liechtenstein, san marino and vatican city should be added to the game because yes
vatican city wouldnt be able to construct anything because no industry 
give us the fascist vatican city path
where the pope goes beast mode on europe
He already can basically
is it a mod or a path in vanilla
yes.
Vanilla has wargoals against nearly all of europe
Italy?
it s a hidden monarchist path
Golden square coup
Vanilla actually, secret* path though
I am not tech support, you are better off asking in #ask-for-help-here or #tech-support
This is also the wrong tab for this kind of question
No one was helped me
Helped but not worked
@pseudo wing i love tea too
I m tea magnat
All 3 kazakh was tea magnat
I am still unable to help you outside of mentioning the pinned messages in #ask-for-help-here , Perhaps there will be people who may help you soon, many people are US based or still working in the EU. However I am not able to help I simply manage the community 🙂
Also Tea is very much good, though I haven't had any from Kazahkstan so I may look into that
Tea from kazakhstan is beatiful
You can get the pope Vanilla
you can?
Yeye
With BBA
Go down monarchy path
One of the routes should have something about the Vatican and give you a new balance of power
Just shift it all the way to the popes side and he takes control
Yeah
Its way too slow
They need to make it go faster
But it's basically just the same as the monarchy path
Cool
Have they announced all the details on the arms deal system?
The dev diaries rarely cover every minute detail based afaik from previous DLC
They'll let us figure that out if they dont say something about it.
I think
i really wanna see new combat battalions and regiments
The update is coming soon 🙂
IDK, I only briefly read the diaries, I just know the update should be coming any week now.
well we have 3 weeks left till AAT releases/drops fully
and also
they only gonna add new support companies in AAT
Not really bothered about the new battalions and support companies, more interested in the Arms Market. 👀
Cool though.
i am SO HYPED bout the ARMS MARKET
also
i do wanna mod in new combat units
@final stag
like RL Military units
Go for it! 🙂
ill do it when ive learned in school
Best of luck to you 🙂
?
i said thx
Oh, no problem! 🙂
once ive made a basic working mod for my HOI4 MULTI MOD ill give it to you in DMs
you can then spread it around to your friends
I wish, none of my friends play this game though.
oh
I dont really look at the Cosmetics on Units either so, I dont really know if im the guy to send it to 😦