hoi4-general

[inland basin]

are maritime patrol planes op?

[opal nymph]

Not exactly. It needs to be flipped left-right

[zealous junco]

They're pretty damn good

Imo

[lament plover]

i mabye be bad at the game... but the itailans are always worse

[crude bronze]

wtf is this bro

"we are unable to verify the ownership of this dlc"

they treating me like a criminal bro

bro everything purged

[gritty tundra]

from 50% consumer goods to 12%

[finite plume]

I just realized the province borders on the Philippines are too far out so now I can't unsee it 🙏

I needa fix that

[cinder wharf]

hoW DO I PLAY THIS GAMEW?1

[finite plume]

Unpause

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/286598318853718016/1227943507889491968/togif-3.gif

[stark elbow]

y'all is this any good i have no idea

[terse skiff]

replace the weapon with howitzer once you get 39 art tech

[cinder wharf]

I'm watching a whole stupid guide now.

I can't even beat Ethiopia as Italy

[terse skiff]

you don't need the radio and if you want research 1939 maintenance for ez maintenance

[inland basin]

are SHBs necessary?

[finite plume]

It's cause Ethiopia's a faux easy war for begineers

[terse skiff]

the reason soviet spgs are so strong is the artillery focus that gives you 2 2 year cards for artillery research that allows you to get 43 artillery by 1941

[finite plume]

If you wanna succeed in Ethiopia you usually gotta learn terrain, logistics, and air just to even push

[terse skiff]

shbbs? No but they're nice to have if you want to main capital ships

[finite plume]

Also Italy's a really punishing country for mistakes

[stark elbow]

i tried ur design but i guess i have to research somethings before reaching yours
what year is yours?

[finite plume]

It's an inevitable civil war if you make too many

[finite plume]

Are those mediums or heavies

[stark elbow]

medium

[finite plume]

Ah

[terse skiff]

mine is just 3 man turret and howitzer, I did not put all of that other stuff

it depends on when I finish researching 1939 artillery

[cinder wharf]

do you think I can learn HOI4 by Trial & Error and no videos?

[stark elbow]

for boosting sa early that was the only way, or else the sa would've been something around 30-20

[terse skiff]

I first need 20 mils on guns, 5 for art/aa/support before I start producing spgs

[fathom venture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnMlGIxydjA&list=RDqnMlGIxydjA&start_radio=1

[finite plume]

Yes, that's how I learned it

[cinder wharf]

How long did it take?

I've never been into games

[terse skiff]

unless you're fighting germany in 1939 with spg divisions idk why you need a soft attack ceiling

[cinder wharf]

the only other games I sometimes play are Minecraft and Mount & Blade II

[finite plume]

It really depends on how much effort you put into it

For me I'd always go on and off so I'd technically have much more hours than I truly needed

[stark elbow]

first time playing tanks so idk if i can handle the industry, if i do something wrong atleast i have some tanks w 40 sa

[finite plume]

HOI4's like learning languages, if you learn the basics then everything else becomes easy

[cinder wharf]

I start off as Italy correct?

[finite plume]

I personally wouldn't recommend Italy

[cinder wharf]

Reich?

[terse skiff]

you don't need to build 120 of them, having 10 of them is good enough against germany

[finite plume]

After the new update not likely, I'd prob recommend the USA

[terse skiff]

then you can try to improve your industry so you can produce 120 of them

[finite plume]

The USA is strong, simple, and for the most part at your own pace

[stark elbow]

kk the rest of the army should be 9inf then?

[terse skiff]

yeah if you want

if you can produce 72 36w spg divisions then that's more than you ever need against vanilla germany, everything else is just for style points

like after that you gain more by building an actual air force

[stark elbow]

okk

[ripe slate]

@fathom ventureNo modern politician memes please

[hasty linden]

i dont think this is nixon 🙏

[cinder wharf]

What does troop training do?

[snow rain]

nixonower

[hasty linden]

you mean like exercising them?

[hasty linden]

oh yeah

[cinder wharf]

Do I do this now?

[hasty linden]

its just so you can get the troops

[snow rain]

that literally trains new divisions

[hasty linden]

it will take some time

[cinder wharf]

they'll show up on the map then correct

[snow rain]

yes

[hasty linden]

after some time , although you can technically deploy them early but then they will have less xp

[hasty linden]

true

[livid crypt]

no mods

[inland basin]

port strike is OP

[cedar coral]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-alert-ring-ring-doorbell-chud-gif-1353273367591808784

[shell scroll]

anyone have a good infantry template for the base game

[cinder wharf]

How do i get supplies to my dying troops?

aalllllllllllllllllllllllllllll starving

[snow rain]

show us the actual map, not the icons that don't show us anything

[snow rain]

9inf, sup arty and aa

[shell scroll]

👍 i'll try it out i just started the game

[cinder wharf]

DO NOT LAUGH AT ME

I am self-learning

!!!
\

[shell scroll]

is this on civillian

[cinder wharf]

yes

[shell scroll]

😭

buy some oil

[dry sleet]

7 inf 1 line arty, shovel, support arty, support AA if you want a bit more soft attack

[cinder wharf]

then whgat

[shell scroll]

im joining the germans this run

[terse skiff]

this is a horrible template

[snow rain]

supply hub

[dry sleet]

it's great for SP

[shell scroll]

bro its cooked how long were you in this situation, this might be worse than losing to poland

[snow rain]

but you don't need supply hubs if you have bombers on CAS mission in range

[glossy gate]

Yes

[shell scroll]

anyone know how to show resources instead of experience

[terse skiff]

mod

but honestly it might not be as friendly as you think a UI because the resource numbers will change every day

[cinder wharf]

long time

[mighty zephyr]

its easier to push through the maginot than belgium rn holy shit

[ripe slate]

I usually rush into Belgium before the allies can deathstack it

[jolly pier]

Ono

[inland basin]

Large Naval patrol bomber >>>> Naval bombers

[mighty zephyr]

LOL WHAT IS THIS

WHAT DID I DO

[raw crystal]

When I use space marines in HOI4, my division is 9 infantry, 1 medium anti air tank, support artillery, and an engineer company.

[high mortar]

which is better: concentrated industry or dispersed industry

[inland basin]

dispersed

[high mortar]

idk why but when i first started playing i just used dispersed industry and only used that, never tried concentrated industry and im like 150 hours in now

[inland basin]

strat bombers r too op

u need dispersed

[high mortar]

good, i chose the right choice then.

ty for telling me

[foggy scaffold]

NCNS made me a bit dumb

Lowkey so much i dont understand

[inland basin]

large airframes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small airframes

[cinder wharf]

it's 1941 and I did it!

[ripe slate]

Like what

It didnt make things much harder or anything

[shell scroll]

bro shouldn't you be invading greece or sumthin by now

[cinder wharf]

I have never played this game

[glass finch]

I just spent two HOURS trying to get Old World Blues mod to work. i FINALLY made it work

[quasi gulch]

bruh

[shell scroll]

i started like 3 weeks ago, but bro Ethiopia is in the tutorial 😭

[cinder wharf]

I am not doing that

[shell scroll]

ai did it in 1936 😭

[terse skiff]

concentrated don't listen to him

dispersed is only good if you plan to end the game before 1938

[high mortar]

well i dont plan on ending the game until like 2000

[terse skiff]

so concentrated it is then

two concentrated techs = three dispersed techs

[high mortar]

to late now im already in a run and chose dispersed unfortunatly

and dont think i'll be restarting for the time being

but i will do concentrated next time

ty for letting me know

[terse skiff]

i would really recommend you starting a new game

hoi becomes unplayable post 1955

[high mortar]

bruh why everyone say that i played till 1965 one time and it ran fine

i dont play to win i just play to have fun, i dont rlly care about world domination

but also

is the tank destroyer thing worth using or just artillery

[terse skiff]

because nothing happens post 1965. You ran through all the focuses and techs and now it's just slop

if you're talking about line artillery don't use it

tds and spgs are meta but even regular tanks are miles better than line artillery

[high mortar]

im talking about the artillery tanks not just artillery

cause i dont use artillery unless its tanks

[terse skiff]

tds are for fighting against tank divisions and artillery against inf divisions

[inland basin]

can the crappy small frame naval bombers do this?

[inland basin]

line artillery is op

[high mortar]

i never knew that so i will now use that to my advantage

[terse skiff]

tbh unless you're against +4 ai or ai enhancement mods you don't need any anti tank weapons since aa guns are enough to pierce base ai weapons

[high mortar]

also i never knew this community had so much arguing on what is good and what is bad lol

[tepid zinc]

bro WHO IS THE LEGITIMATE KING??

[high mortar]

im gonna get back to playing now

[terse skiff]

there never is any arguing

it's ppl who get their advice from reddit and ppl who bothered to check the in game numbers

[shell scroll]

rate my template

[terse skiff]

remove anti tank and line artillery

[cinder wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-girls-quiz-quiz-show-better-late-than-never-better-late-than-pregnant-gif-5637280

[high mortar]

-1000000/10000

[inland basin]

line artillery is so good

[shell scroll]

but im going to fight the soviets 😭

[high mortar]

what does line artillery even mean

[shell scroll]

bro wants me to fight with no anti tank

[high mortar]

like is it just normal artillery

[terse skiff]

it's the artillery battalion

[unkempt compass]

ts peak?

[terse skiff]

not support artillery

[unkempt compass]

le hoi4 cake

[high mortar]

ok

[terse skiff]

yes because bro knows that regular aa can pierce ai tanks, that is if they even bother to build them

[high mortar]

also guys i prolly already said this but

this is the best hoi4 schedule or whatever its called ( i fogoz the nem )

1 - Buy HOI4
2 - try invading Latvia as the soviets
3 - Fail because there are no soviets anymore
4 - go home
5 - open HOI4
6 - die instantly because of germany
7 - research nukes and nuke my computer
8 - wake up and repeat

[shell scroll]

so swap it with recon?

[high mortar]

researching nukes and nuking my pc is the only viable option

[terse skiff]

if it's 9/0, you really only need support aa and art

maybe engineers but tbh that's kind of a waste of ic

[high mortar]

can i ask 1 more question before i get back to playing

[terse skiff]

maybe you can get a light tank with a dozer blade as light tank recon if you don't want to do recon rangers

[inland basin]

best units:

1- mountaineers
2- paras
3- rangers
4- infantry
5- artillery
armor and motorized sucks

[high mortar]

armor and motorized sucks????

[foggy scaffold]

Confused me is all.

[inland basin]

yes

[high mortar]

that is the stupidest thing i have EVER HEARD

[inland basin]

the meta in this game is just infantry with line artillery

[high mortar]

i curse you with...

NAVAL INVASION EVERY DAY WITH ONE INFANTRY DIVISION EACH AT THE MOST POINTLESS LOCATION IN THE COUNTRY YOU USE!!!

[terse skiff]

i mean motorized units do suck unless you mean the motorized logistics

[jolly pier]

This is going to be a long war

[terse skiff]

and making 10 naval invasion orders with one unit each was the meta naval invasion strategy before ncns

[high mortar]

@terse skiff one more question, how do i raise this?

well i meant specifically the positive

ofc

[gaunt hearth]

stop being in civil war

and improve relations

[terse skiff]

you can use spies to do diplo pressure that will only get you +20 so you'll have to wait until civil war ends

[high mortar]

im not in civil war they are

[fair horizon]

Your lack of faith in speed dissapoints me

[high mortar]

alright thank you

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-mad-max-fury-road-praise-cheer-celebrate-gif-10224262869702493445

[terse skiff]

you can't even call countries in same faction but in civil war to join your war in most cases

[fair horizon]

Chat i just came to a realization

I like playing mw australia

That means im mad maxxing

[woeful knoll]

This is the most scrub thing ive ever heard lmao

Let me guess u paradrop france as germany

[ivory hull]

1st are any special forces except for paras, after that armor then inf

[woeful knoll]

armor literally isnt good

it adds articial difficulty to the game

it may seem better but its really not

[ivory hull]

only really good if you have the dlc

[ivory hull]

it is

[woeful knoll]

escpescially if you have the dlc

[ivory hull]

thats just wrong

explain to me why tanks are bad

[woeful knoll]

by the time u get late gun tech inf can push easily

tanks

you need to design and produce slowly

and agressively micro

[ivory hull]

not really

as germany you can easily have like 16 36w tank divs out

by war

with ease

[buoyant fractal]

what is purple ukraine

[woeful knoll]

in early game u can only make crap light tanks

[ivory hull]

light tanks are just bad

[woeful knoll]

mid game u need to agressive micro and put all ur production on them

[ivory hull]

in sp mediums are the meta

[woeful knoll]

late game it literally doesnt matter

[ivory hull]

not all

thats wrong

[woeful knoll]

as what

usa

[ivory hull]

you just dont know how to do it correctly it seems

[woeful knoll]

as any normal country tanks are way to expensive

[ivory hull]

not really

any major can do them

most minors can also get them in like 1940

[woeful knoll]

this isnt even historically accture

why

[brittle laurel]

[woeful knoll]

with late gun tech and cas

you can push

[raven lotus]

because I was tired of the same thing over and over

also because I could

[woeful knoll]

while tanks may have a better stats

[ivory hull]

whats your tank div and infantry div?

[woeful knoll]

i find that microing tanks all day makes the game harder then it really is

[ivory hull]

not hard if you know what your doing

[woeful knoll]

i barely use tanks but 6 mediums 6 motorized then 6 mech when i research it

[ivory hull]

thats just bad

10 spgs

[woeful knoll]

whats the meta

[ivory hull]

8 cavalry/mechanized

motorized lwk isnt worth it

[woeful knoll]

i play hoi4 to larp as hitler

not for 10 SPGs

thats not historically accurate or fun

[ivory hull]

then dont say tanks are bad

just say they dont fit your playstyle

big difference

[raven lotus]

Iran called they want their title back

[acoustic wasp]

Why are my fleets ignoring the orders?

only the subs work

the patrols and strike force isn't leaving the naval base

yes automatic split is enabled

is it frozen or something? im in april

[high mortar]

what is the dlc that adds arms trading? (military equipment trading)

[flint widget]

make sure your home base is near enough

[craggy trail]

Arms Against Tyranny

[fossil cape]

By blood alone

[craggy trail]

The Arms Market

[acoustic wasp]

they are stationed in leningrad and Riga

all my vessels

[fossil cape]

My bad

[flint widget]

up at the top beside the select all button is home base

its a new thing

[fossil cape]

I thought it was by blood alone

[craggy trail]

All good

[high mortar]

thank you

[brittle laurel]

warships of the pacific

[high mortar]

now another question is can i add a dlc mid game?

[acoustic wasp]

which?

[fossil cape]

Ahh by blood alonr adds the naval blockade or embargos I think

[high mortar]

yeah i dont like the naval blockades and embargos

i tried them before and they are just annoying

[fossil cape]

It would be good if they change it so the AI can revoke the embargo if u improve ur relationship with them

[flint widget]

at the bit on top of the taskforces

it says mermansk

[fossil cape]

I'm at +100 with USA and still an embargo

[brittle laurel]

If you hold ctrl, shift click on the naval base at leningrad it should reassign it

[ivory hull]

pretty sure bba only added the air designer

[acoustic wasp]

oh thx

[brittle laurel]

If thats the problem

[ivory hull]

maybe embargo

too

[fossil cape]

@craggy trail could I ask you something in dms?

[acoustic wasp]

thx

[high mortar]

one of my fav dlcs is gotterdamurung dlc

[fossil cape]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki citizens also like it

[craggy trail]

No. That would break your save and you would need to restart

[ivory hull]

nukes were better before the dlc

[craggy trail]

Especially if you are on ironman

[fossil cape]

Wait really? I didn't know that, I just did that like 5 hours ago, I had my dlcs off when I started playing, I reached 1939, crashed, and I joined again my save with dlcs on

[high mortar]

well one time i had gotten the thing for all the dlcs and then opened my 1965 one and it worked fine even though i only had no step back before and i was just wondering if it was glitch or not. i really dont want my save to be corrupted

[sly venture]

is this good its my first run as japan

also is my marine template decent

[fossil cape]

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086751

[raw crystal]

My favorite HOI4 focus tree is the updated monarchist Germany Tree where I can form the EU led by a monarch.

[inland basin]

how

[raw crystal]

And then afterwards form the HRE with much of Europe cored.

[ivory hull]

no its bad

use this

[brittle laurel]

tf 😭

[high mortar]

i feel like my faction is gonna get me destroyed by the US because the soviet mexican thing is there and sometimes when they fight with the north american minor nations they form a faction where they all just get protected by the US and i dont want to get demolished

[brittle laurel]

Maybe im just behind on meta now but wtf is that

[high mortar]

what is that tree bro

[ivory hull]

rangers

[sly venture]

What does the unit on the right do

[hard depot]

Rangers

[ivory hull]

from the newest dlc

[ivory hull]

its like mountaineers but for forests

[high mortar]

the newest dlc is even out?

[ivory hull]

so the last one

the japan

one

[sly venture]

I thought line artillery was good with marines

[hard depot]

One dude even shoved Mountaineers and Marines just to naval invade Norway

[high mortar]

oh

[brittle laurel]

It is?

Right

[hard depot]

Hell no

[ivory hull]

no its really bad

[high mortar]

i thought that wasn't new cuase i thought it came out like mid last year (i only got hoi4 like 2 months ago)

[brittle laurel]

What

[ivory hull]

mountaineers are also good with marines but there are more forests than mountains

[sly venture]

I saw bitter steel use it so I thought it’s good

[inland basin]

it's the best unit in game

[brittle laurel]

I was ostracized like 2 months ago for not having art in my marines

[ivory hull]

he isnt really the best

[brittle laurel]

[hard depot]

This was back before Rangers even were added

[ivory hull]

oh yea then that was just the thing

before

[hard depot]

Mountaineers + Marines were the good shit

[ivory hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIjk4bAh68

watch this

very good video

very short too

[hard depot]

Cause you can just naval invade like Italy while getting the good stuff from Mountaineers, it's a win win

[inland basin]

tank propaganda

[hard depot]

This was before rangers

[brittle laurel]

tanks 💀

Ok bud

[sly venture]

Also from here what do I do

[ivory hull]

bro what

tanks are the best right after sf

if you have nsb

[brittle laurel]

Not practical

[ivory hull]

oh my god they are

[brittle laurel]

for us who like minor NATIONS*

[ivory hull]

what are you on about

what

bro

[flint widget]

if you are a minor who doesnt need to hold a line they can be good

[ivory hull]

theyre good either way

[hard depot]

I just realized that the Historical US Marine division is basically just a Space Marine division.....

Imagine trying to convince that to a Historical RP server thinking it's some space marine template

[sly venture]

bro almost got cancelled

[ivory hull]

that div has like 3 armor doesnt it

[hard depot]

One Light or Medium

[sly venture]

space marines are not even good as majors

[ivory hull]

as most minor nations tank are still practical

[sly venture]

way too expensive

[ivory hull]

good for pushung units

but yea for 240 line holders

[brittle laurel]

[ivory hull]

a bit too much

[inland basin]

lmao no

tanks are ASS

[brittle laurel]

not on the defensive

[ivory hull]

bro how many hours do you have to say this

[sly venture]

tanks are goated but can be expensive

[brittle laurel]

which most of the interesting ones are

[sly venture]

as majors tanks are a must

[ivory hull]

no

special forces work well enough

[sly venture]

I rarely use special forces as majors

[brittle laurel]

whar 💀

[ivory hull]

after a defense you will always be on the offense

[brittle laurel]

I thought this was tank guy, special forces only on majors

[raven lotus]

im about to piss off alot of people

[raw crystal]

I switch to Medium Tanks once I reach late 1938 or 1939. I mostly play as Germany anyways.

[ivory hull]

not only on majors

[ivory hull]

personally i still prefer tanks

[inland basin]

why i feel like i know u?

[sly venture]

Ain’t this better for panzer

[ivory hull]

this is after you update it a little bit

[ivory hull]

cavalry is a lot cheaper

and ususally enough

[hard depot]

Holy soft attack.

[ivory hull]

assault engineers are only really needed if your gonna attack forts

[raven lotus]

no idea

[sly venture]

they need to buff subs

or fix them

[inland basin]

r u one of them rainbow ppl

[vernal rapids]

catra? you must really like that show

[ivory hull]

fleet subs with low visibilty will shred the ai bro

[hard depot]

Historical Marine Division is just one big space marine template lmao

[brittle laurel]

[flint widget]

when you use tanks:

[sly venture]

yea I know but 30% of the time all my subs die

[raven lotus]

yes

[raven lotus]

I am LGBT yes

[ivory hull]

low visibility

[sly venture]

this is what I use

[hard depot]

Cringe subs when I introduce Naval Bombers, "Seaplane Tenders", and radar site clampdown on their ahh:

[ivory hull]

these are only cruiser subs

still very good

[sly venture]

Or this maybe

[ivory hull]

but fleet subs are better

[vernal rapids]

u play mp?

anyone wanna play mp?

[ivory hull]

thats an advanced sub

[heavy vigil]

aip 1 is crazy

[inland basin]

yeah ik u ur some weirdo

[heavy vigil]

they use a gorillion fuel

[hard depot]

Not if you're the Murican nation

[ivory hull]

this one

[hard depot]

And seized Venezuela (Yes.)

[heavy vigil]

they still use the same amount of fuel

[sly venture]

yea I upgrade to that most the time

[raven lotus]

got a problem?

[hard depot]

Brother could have replaced it with the best submarine engine instead

[heavy vigil]

👁️

[inland basin]

lmk what ur fav hoi4 templates r

[ivory hull]

yea if you assign the mio traits that lower visibility the should be very good

[brittle laurel]

says the femboy

[vernal rapids]

wait what? theres certain templates ive just been going with the flow

[raven lotus]

oh this is going to be good, what are they

[ivory hull]

yea there are meta templates

dont just use the starting ones

[inland basin]

?

[ivory hull]

tbh logistics might be too much

rest is fine

and in sp

you dont need that aa as germany

you have enough air

as germany

[inland basin]

i asked u for urs

[ivory hull]

so just go with a spg

[hard depot]

Favorite template?

24 width infantry, one Superheavy howitzer, assault engi, field hospital, support aa and support arty

[raven lotus]

oh wait I read that wrong

[hard depot]

Fun.

[inland basin]

im not

[ivory hull]

35/36w is better for attacking

[sly venture]

I usually use that without aa as Germany

[hard depot]

I only need it for defense anyways.

[ivory hull]

then 16 to 18w would be beset

[raven lotus]

boom stick

[sly venture]

Roman Empire might genuinely be the easiest formable

[ivory hull]

and all those support companies seem very expensive for only holding

[sly venture]

with paratrooper cheese

[vernal rapids]

x3

[hard depot]

Oh nah I do support arty and aa instead of support heavy howi

[ivory hull]

oh yea cause that seemed a bit expensive lol

[sly venture]

just look at this

[hard depot]

If I played as the US then I would have made support heavy howi

[sly venture]

idk how people struggle with Roman Empire

[ivory hull]

still to expensive for holding divs

you dont need that

better off investing that ic somewhere else

[inland basin]

@raven lotus and whats ur favorite planes in game

[hard depot]

I make 500 Mils.

[raven lotus]

yes

[errant remnant]

Bro these borders man..

[heavy vigil]

im so tired

[hard depot]

500 mils is fun.

[heavy vigil]

chat, be normal while i sleep

i will backread chat when i wake up you guys better not act up /lh

[ivory hull]

1991??!?

[vernal rapids]

x3

[ivory hull]

infantry with light tanks?

light tanks lwk suck bro

mediums are way better

[vernal rapids]

Meh I like light tanks this is what I used during my Argentina run

[lethal ether]

how can u play until 1991

genuinely what do you do

[vernal rapids]

Wdym?

[ivory hull]

anti tanks isnt really needed in sp and 36w is the best width for attacking

and no idea whats a good div design for no dlc

[lethal ether]

i usually capitulate every major by 1945-1950

theres nothing fun left to do

hoi4 runs get boring way too fast ngl

[vernal rapids]

wait till u see my german run lol

[hard depot]

I shove one close support gun to solve light tank problem.

[ivory hull]

just use mediums bro

[lethal ether]

🥭

[ivory hull]

bro tf does that even mean

[lethal ether]

a mango

a gift from me to you

[brittle laurel]

🍑

[shell scroll]

is it normal to have 700k troops in 1938 as Czechia

[brittle laurel]

no but do you want a peach

[shell scroll]

🍌

[brittle laurel]

[ivory hull]

a gift from me to you is the recommendation to use medium tanks in sp

[lethal ether]

who doesnt

theres no shot people actually use heavy tanks in sp

[ivory hull]

light tanks or no tanks at all

seen it bro

[lethal ether]

light tanks like

early game

[ivory hull]

not even that

light tanks are just bad

[brittle laurel]

not in sp?

[ivory hull]

also bad in sp

early game they might work

afterwards theyre really trash tho

[lethal ether]

no

i disagree

light tanks until 1938 or 1939

[ivory hull]

hell no

maximum 37

maximum

[brittle laurel]

Very useful as japan

All the way to 1939

[ivory hull]

china just doesnt have an army

and theyre dead in 38

[lethal ether]

japan doesnt even need tanks

its not like you have supply for them

[vernal rapids]

@ivory hull

[ivory hull]

for the love of god just screenshot

also

use 1 pushing division

and make it 36w

[vernal rapids]

To much work

[ivory hull]

but pulling your phone out is less?

[heavy vigil]

why

[vernal rapids]

Nah why do that when I have 1831 military factories

[vernal rapids]

Those are old pics

[ivory hull]

because its better

[brittle laurel]

great for early breakthroughs and encircling on the coasts

but yes they get bogged down

[lethal ether]

because its cheaper and sp ai cant fight against them ayways

[vernal rapids]

I’d rather have mass good troops then a couple op units

[ivory hull]

yea they arent good tho

thats the thing

[vernal rapids]

Good for me

[heavy vigil]

live and let live

[fair horizon]

Light tanks when the production for a tank is 2.4 ic and has the same soft attack as a medium tank

[ivory hull]

could be better

[ivory hull]

same soft attack?

[fair horizon]

Yes?

[heavy vigil]

and takes 8x the losses because no break

[fair horizon]

You can put medium weapons on light tanks

[ivory hull]

no breakthrough tho...

[vernal rapids]

i have my own way of playing ive already surprised someone who said that my units would immediately lose and they didnt

[fair horizon]

They can have enough

[ivory hull]

not if you soft attack max with spgs

[fair horizon]

I never had an issue

[ivory hull]

i prefer mediums

[fair horizon]

Well good thing they're 8x cheaper

[fair horizon]

Mediums are comfy light tanks are just funny

[heavy vigil]

2.4x8=20~

[ivory hull]

true

[fair horizon]

Thats how much my mediums usually cost

[heavy vigil]

cast armor to australia larp?

[fair horizon]

Gross

But funny

[heavy vigil]

they used it irl tho

[fair horizon]

Im australia larping by doing mobile warfare

https://tenor.com/view/pray-mad-max-fury-road-praise-cheer-celebrate-gif-10224262869702493445

[serene breach]

bro what is this

i dont feel right

[heavy vigil]

do you not know about the sentinel tanks

they used cast armor

[fair horizon]

I know they existed

[heavy vigil]

australians were the best at making cast armor tanks in the world, at least most efficient

[fair horizon]

I dont know a bunch about them

[heavy vigil]

the tanks were lacking otherwise

but still

[heavy vigil]

they had a little knob on the front for the machine gun

easily recognizable

[acoustic wasp]

am i gonna survive barbarossa?

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[fair horizon]

I mean from what i understand they were phasing out cast hulls for welded during 1942 so

Oh they never even saw combat :(

[heavy vigil]

they almost did

and thats what matters

[wheat copper]

Enter

[fair horizon]

Japan is just lucky they didnt face the bob semples

[heavy vigil]

they faced the churchill and matilda tanks though

i dont remember which one

but one of them was hated in the west but loved by australians because it was good at running over jungle trees/good in the slow moving terrain

[fair horizon]

Its kinda intresting cause australia was the only one to not use the sherman lol

Makes sense though, they werent facing much japanese armored divisions

[viscid mason]

hello casey, hi admiral

[fair horizon]

Hello Vistula i like your polandball pfp

[polar radish]

Whats the best optimization mod to let mp games run faster?

[ivory hull]

is that singleplayer?

[acoustic wasp]

yeah and i lost a few tiles, burning through their men though

[ivory hull]

then why armor meme

in your tank

[acoustic wasp]

lost 200k and they lost 1.3m

[acoustic wasp]

idk why not

im playing like fully historically so i figured it might help with barbarossa

tried to encircle divisions that advanced on my infantry but I can't, i win the tile but wayy too slow

[mortal mirage]

sup sonions

[ivory hull]

that has nothing to do with historical

[mortal mirage]

its finally here

[ivory hull]

use smth like this in sp

[mortal mirage]

🥹 its finally BACK

[acoustic wasp]

yeah i mean it might help me survive idk

[acoustic wasp]

too late now it's 1942

will save it for future reference

[ivory hull]

your div only has 31 armor so its not even an armor meme really

[mortal mirage]

I have to bleach my eyes

[ivory hull]

and the ai doesnt pierce much lwk

their divs suck

[mortal mirage]

skissue use mods for that

make the game harder

on purpose

[ivory hull]

in most mods the ai just cheats tho

[mortal mirage]

no for divisions bru

[ivory hull]

doesnt change too much if the ai still battle plans into no supply

or into mountains

[mortal mirage]

theres a mod for that too

frontlines ai or smt

idk

maybe thats not it

im not a submod kind of guy I usually work on the main mods

[acoustic wasp]

i didn't want to make a meme I'd go for a heavy instead i just wanted to raise the armour and hard attack a bit because all my mediums are running howitzer cannons

[ivory hull]

you dont need hard attack in sp

[acoustic wasp]

I don't like cheesing the game so much

[acoustic wasp]

i spotted a few medium panzer divisions but bleh i think I'll win i just need to keep grinding their casualties and counter push when they're low on men

so far iran inflicted much more casualties because im trying to invade them

[ivory hull]

ai tank divisions dont really have armor or hardness

[ivory hull]

dont battleplan into mountains

[acoustic wasp]

i just have 24 divisions coming down the north making really good progress and 20 off the east also battle planning but they're suffering so i stopped their offensive order

I'll go sleep and continue to tomorrow

[ivory hull]

just watch out for supply

[acoustic wasp]

so far it's good and I had a butt ton of stuff stockpiled , just trying not to lose my fighters I'm retreating them every now and then when the germans advance

idek if i lose them when the enemy captures the tile with the airbase

but to be safe

I'll test it in a different play through

[fair horizon]

Chat i hope the division simulator does a designer for boats

[lethal ether]

ai tank divisions can barely be considered tank divisions

[craggy trail]

I'm finally finished. It was a very engaging and wholesome Dr. Caballeron playthrough with Aztlan and the Neighua. There's also ||a pretty nice reference to The Road To El Dorado too.|| @tulip thorn

[shrewd inlet]

Peak?

[lethal ether]

why do u spoiler everyth

[tulip thorn]

Peak

[shell scroll]

bro i got blitzed by germany

[shrewd inlet]

playing who

[craggy trail]

[shell scroll]

Czechia

[shrewd inlet]

not entirely suprising

czechs get a good starting eco and fort lines

did they deck in 38?

[fair horizon]

Is spoiler

[shrewd inlet]

the AI has to be paid actors

saf just walked into a pocket

[hard depot]

All you need is one 1936 AA and it solves all your piercing problems

Because AI Armor is that bad.

[shrewd inlet]

what is THIS

[sudden thistle]

looks like u didnt own karachi

or take it

[shrewd inlet]

guess not

[sudden thistle]

shame

[shrewd inlet]

I was lowk snaking acoss india

[sudden thistle]

rush dehli

[shrewd inlet]

i did

lmao

[sudden thistle]

delhi

deli meat?

[shrewd inlet]

literally had them at like 60% cap

[sudden thistle]

weird

[fair horizon]

Only if you dont play longer than 1945

They get good armor later, germany and usa especially

[shrewd inlet]

mosley revolted, we blew up the raj

[hard depot]

Honestly at this point, it's not that bad to sacrifice some IC for anti tank lategame

[gritty tundra]

rangers vs mobile recons which is better

[ivory hull]

ranger recon is better

[fair horizon]

I personally dont bother because lategame you should have good enough cas to make up the difference imo

[pearl shoal]

When is based tradcath neo-libertarian falangism path?

[fair horizon]

You made those words up

[pearl shoal]

it's a real ideology bro

[storm escarp]

???????

[hard depot]

Austria Justified on me even though I won as the US in WW2

Yeah HOI4 AI be pretty scuffed

[storm escarp]

Crazy

And you know another thing that happened in this same game, late 1945 Britain did Organize the blackshirts

[blazing river]

just got the achivment

[storm escarp]

This ai dude

[twin nebula]

When I'm eating eggs after 11am at the dinner table but my kids have to look at the menu prices then I go to my girlfriend which is a #youngho but then 7x7=49, &, Thursday, navy blue, hm, steals my girlfriend so you genuinely larp as the blue shirt kid but I give up and start my singing career and I sing I was looking for a job and then I found a job and then become nothing but a hounda dog

[fair horizon]

Wat

[craggy trail]

Breakfast

[fair horizon]

Hi tails

[craggy trail]

Second breakfast

Elevenses

[ivory belfry]

how to fix this?

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-wave-starlight-glimmer-my-little-pony-gif-15897868

[lean yew]

a new victim

of my larp power

you cannot stop me

[fair horizon]

Coke won

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[shell cave]

Buenas, alguien que hable español?

[lean yew]

i wish nestle was an option

that would be the best outcome

[fair horizon]

Dr pepper

[shell cave]

O una sub comunidad para jugar?

[lean yew]

i had to pick from coke, disney, and ford

i wish nestle was an option..

[craggy trail]

Verify the game's integrity

[shell cave]

Somebody to play in spanish?

[ivory belfry]

how?

[craggy trail]

If you go to the game's properties on steam and on installed files, you can reverify the game's files

[ivory belfry]

alright

[fair horizon]

The european mind cant comprehend the complex blend of 23 flavors in dr pepper (all corn syurp)

[craggy trail]

You should reach here once you are done

If that doesn't work, your best bet is to look through #tech-support and a tech helper will get in contact with you regarding your current issue

[fair horizon]

Chat i wish there was a fun european country to play that didnt just win for free

[storm escarp]

Will this be enough nukes

[craggy trail]

You can go directly to that page if you click on the gear on the right corner of the steam game background in your game library

[clear dagger]

never really played much as EU, isnt it a pain to get from being democratic back to a different ideology?

or can you actually form it besides being democratic?

[storm escarp]

Yeah

The Mitteleuropa path is avaliable for Monarchist democratic and technically even fascist if you get strasser

[nocturne cedar]

who do you all think is winning? reminder that soviets are agaisnt the allies but i'm not agaisnt the soviets even though im axis

[clear dagger]

oh its a focus tree path for that version of the EU?

so you can become it without being democratic?

[storm escarp]

Yeah I hope this shows it

[craggy trail]

Any luck so far?

[clear turtle]

Yo what the hell is this

[merry compass]

How do i get Zhukov after soviet civil war end?

[fair horizon]

Carlist spain :)

[clear turtle]

Impossible

[cedar coral]

ai btw

[polar radish]

Y’all have any tips for paradeopping UK, they seem to be the only nation I can’t cap with them.

[cedar coral]

do you have air supremacy

[clear dagger]

seems like a trust worthy politician

hopefully he'll be nothing like that hitler guy or anything

[cedar coral]

ikr

[storm escarp]

Dude I swear only NOW did india decide to become a major

[jade parcel]

wow

[misty fossil]

Larp

[marble oasis]

holy peace conference borders

[nocturne cedar]

border gore

[marble oasis]

yep

[clear turtle]

...

[marble oasis]

ur borders arent so bad

[nocturne cedar]

yk my bulgaria run will prob end in me being on a major endsieg in the balkans, cuz literally look at the damn fronts. well atleast the allies and soviets are at war sooo

[jade parcel]

this just in

[polar radish]

Like they land but either don’t take the tile or get pushed out before reinforcements arrive

[violet copper]

Hi everypony

[cedar coral]

try to land at ports

[violet copper]

I quit HOI4

This game is too hard

And the MLP mod is ASS

[terse skiff]

and it's gone

[nocturne cedar]

hey rarity

[nocturne cedar]

aw

[violet copper]

I don’t understand divisions

I have better equipment than everyone else

I have more divisions

And I still get destroyed

As Turkey with 20 divisions I lost to Greece

While having more advanced guns

[nocturne cedar]

https://youtu.be/Rb9536VncuI?si=uLIUXVxjFFv35Vyd

[violet copper]

They still had single shot weapons

And I had machine guns

[uneven marlin]

Don't worry guys, just wait for Steiner's counter attack, I'm sure that this will all be okay!!

[nocturne cedar]

attrition and supply

[violet copper]

And EaW story sucks

I’m gonna say it

The story is ass

Same with TFR

The mod’s all have corny edgy stories

That make no sense

Why are the Nazis so op in TFR??

Why does Celestia have the power level of a piece of bread in EaW???

Why does Hitler go to war with the entire world in 1938 everytime I turn historical ai off???

[polar radish]

I do but don’t hold it for long. What CW paratroopers do you use?

[violet copper]

Like

HOI4 looks soo fun

[cedar coral]

i barely use them

[violet copper]

But oh my god

[cedar coral]

whats your template

[violet copper]

Why is the fastest sim slow

Why isn’t there a way to sim faster

[nocturne cedar]

because its chaos

[violet copper]

I’d be a lot less upset if 1 year in game didn’t take a hour on the fastest sim mode

And why is construction so ass??

It takes me a year to build one factory!!

[nocturne cedar]

try easy mode and slowly walk up

[nocturne cedar]

ir depends on reaseaech and indistru

[violet copper]

How am I supposed to do anything if I have no way of making guns

[violet copper]

Why is Turkey dogshit

[nocturne cedar]

if i were you, id ask on #ask-for-help-here

[nocturne cedar]

do you have the dlcs

battke for bosporouz

and the shityard of manurempires

[violet copper]

Turkey had the power to commit like 5 genocdes in the 20s but couldn’t do anything to add more than 3 military factories?

[violet copper]

I have the one that gives Greece its own path

[nocturne cedar]

so BFP ok

[nocturne cedar]

do industrial focuses

[violet copper]

How

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-akakichi-no-eleven-gif-6695986364367126664

[nocturne cedar]

eith the focus tree

with

[violet copper]

I’m constantly at civil war

I have 0 stability for the entirety of early game

And you can’t do late game without taking over Greece!!!

I was told Turkey was an easy country

But no

I went to war with Greece and a civil war immediately started

And then Greece did invasions

And beat my ass

[nocturne cedar]

you fell for the bait

[violet copper]

While my divisions that were way stronger somehow took 30 days to break through

[nocturne cedar]

play HUNGARY

hingary is so easy

its good to learn the ropes

[violet copper]

I wanted to play as a cool empire

[nocturne cedar]

youvcan form GREATER HUNGER

[violet copper]

I thought Romania would be fun

[nocturne cedar]

eh

kinda?

[violet copper]

Vs the Greek or Roman or Ottoman Empire?

Also how do you win as Greece?

Like

How does someone play Greece and claim they’re having fun?

You can have at max like 5 factories

It’s so slow

By 1940 I hadn’t done anything

And when I tried to take Bulgaria Romania came in and helped them along with the allies

[nocturne cedar]

the ottoman empire path is dogshit

[violet copper]

Well I picked that one cuz it sounds cool

[nocturne cedar]

you only get it after 43

[nocturne cedar]

sounds cool but isnt

[violet copper]

Just like the game Hearts of Iron 4

[nocturne cedar]

that focus tree neds a whole ass reaork

[nocturne cedar]

no

you just got trolled and picked a bad country

[violet copper]

Also why is Germany so stupid in this game?

[nocturne cedar]

you havent learned the ropes yet

[violet copper]

Why is the axis power so weak?

[nocturne cedar]

the whole AI is a famble

[violet copper]

America doesn’t even need to join the allies for the axis to get their ass kicked

[nocturne cedar]

sometimes theyre string

[violet copper]

Japan legitimately is the only axis power with any strength

I haven’t played Germany

Are they like

Really hard to play?

[nocturne cedar]

naw

i’ll give you a guide

https://youtu.be/UadQ3euApmM?si=zF4BTrWTEPRlJ631

[violet copper]

Is it possible to play as Hitler without letting Himmler develop the final solution?

[nocturne cedar]

yeah just dont die lol

[violet copper]

How does HOI4 even deal with the h.locaust and stuff?

Idk why this server censors that word

But it does

[blazing river]

no

[nocturne cedar]

it doesnt talk about it

[blazing river]

theres no warcrimes or anything

[violet copper]

That was literally Japan’s only strategy

[nocturne cedar]

there are

nuremberg trials

swiss

[blazing river]

and nukes

[violet copper]

Commit as many warcrimes as possible as fast as possible to make the enemy’s spirit break

[blazing river]

technically

[violet copper]

Also are there any good mods out there?

[nocturne cedar]

you get a 9 block inf template, and focud on tanks or mot.mech cuz its cheaper than tanks

[nocturne cedar]

owb, kaiserreich

[violet copper]

I hate TFR. Do not recommend anything like that

[nocturne cedar]

you played millenial dawn not tfr

[violet copper]

Why does orange man in TFR have like 0 interesting paths??

[violet copper]

He literally is the main person in the advertisement for the mod. Why does Russia have 100 different paths and he only has like 3

[violet copper]

I’ve played both

[nocturne cedar]

infighting and because its not complete

[craggy trail]

The nuclear fallout status maluses was a quirk Equestria at War had before Gotterdamerung

[violet copper]

“Add 10 more paths to Germany and Russia!”

[nocturne cedar]

nukibg any city and the population doesnt die

[violet copper]

“And 5 more to Biden!!”

I hate TFR

I can’t tell if it’s made by the most liberal people ever or edge lords

Why are the Nazis so powerful in TFR?? They’re literally stronger than the US military

[violet copper]

Like 6 songs in the soundtrack are MGMT. so I actually know the answer is both

[storm escarp]

Finally

[violet copper]

Are you one of EaW’s mods?

Can you pleaseee make a way to put Diamond Tiara in power

I would do anything

Make my queen the queen

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-diamond-tiara-gif-2396060513248935822

[nocturne cedar]

bulgaria shall rise and defest your ass

while dropping nukes on the balkans

the new festure to the game should be psrtisan tanks for spy resistance stuff

and exiles govts

[fair horizon]

Doesnt happen or exist

No real reason to glorify it

[violet copper]

So like. Why would certain countries give a damn about what Germany or Japan are doing

Why are the South American countries joining the allies

Also does HOI4 have bio warfare or anything?

Cuz that was Japan’s final plan to deal with America

[nocturne cedar]

mods are the obly way

rt56 i thibk has it?

[misty fossil]

i should stop playing hoi4

this game is ruining my sleep schedule

[tulip thorn]

Rarity calling diamond tiara the queen is funny lol

Rip sweetie bell, cant even rely on her own sister

[tulip thorn]

lol

[violet copper]

I am a mod on a MLP subreddit and all I do is glorify diamond tiara in it

My gaming setup tuff af

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-this-is-gabe-gabe-newell-meme-gif-789120837446089555

[violet copper]

?

[misty fossil]

?

[violet copper]

?

[hard depot]

Out of all the mods, the Equestria At War is literally the best overhaul I've ever seen, I'm not even joking at this point....

[agile fossil]

can someone buy me hoi4 doe

plz

[polar radish]

Legit 4w spam for VP rush

[shrewd inlet]

Ilove you already

The great and powerful setup!

[hard depot]

Am broke and I spent it all on a brand new 2 sticks of 16GB DDR4 RAM for my laptop

16 GB of ram ain't enough, I need 32

[shrewd inlet]

what for?

[hard depot]

This brand new Lenovo LOQ Intel i5-12450HX, 512GB NVME, NVIDIA 2050 4GB VRAM

[shrewd inlet]

2050 is kinda gulp but it aint the worst

what do you need 32 gigs for

[hard depot]

I ain't playing triple A titles.

[hard depot]

War Thunder.

[shrewd inlet]

you dont need that much for wt

😭

[violet copper]

Too bad the mod has very little to actually do with MLP

My little larper OCs at war

[hard depot]

Well, it's more of like..... WW2 Reskinned for MLP

[clear dagger]

uh i think the soviets are dead

[hard depot]

Stalliongrad is the equivalent of the USSR

Changelings are just Nazis

[shrewd inlet]

the changelings speak german trust

[violet copper]

I beat the shit out of stalliongrad as Equestria while scrolling Instagram reels

[shrewd inlet]

legit

[violet copper]

Changelings are closer to Japan

[hard depot]

Maybe both

Cause they use da German tonks

[shrewd inlet]

no they're germany iirc

they speak german

[hard depot]

They're literally Germans lmao

[violet copper]

Germany is one of the dumbass bird countries

I despise the birds

[shrewd inlet]

there's 2

[violet copper]

Why are the in EAW??

[shrewd inlet]

changelings are like

nazis

[hard depot]

Exactly.

[violet copper]

Why are majority of EAW not ponies??

[shrewd inlet]

griffins are more austrian and hre

[hard depot]

Because it needs to spice up more lore.

[shrewd inlet]

they are in equis

[hard depot]

Why else are we getting "New Griffonia"

[hard depot]

Ironic, isn't it?

[violet copper]

Why are places that are walkable in show now a sea away??

[hard depot]

Oh you need Navy for that.

[violet copper]

Why is Celestia so weak when she canonically moves the sun daily

[shrewd inlet]

eaw has it's own lore iirc

[hard depot]

Oh you mean the sun path?

[violet copper]

Why is Luna not a spy when she canonically spies on people in their sleep??