hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

rip

[thorn sleet]

Basically a repeat of 1919.

[hard depot]

Literally taking the phrase: More men than they have bullets

[quasi osprey]

are these planes ok for fighting in 1938?

[zenith charm]

i mean

so far they work very well

but you're gonna have to upgrade them by 1940

[quasi osprey]

yeah I will of cource upgrade them for ww2

[thorn sleet]

Dude

Use Large Unit Tactics.

Or smaller ui

If the generals go over one line I'm not having it.

[hard depot]

this is literally large unit tactics

and desperate defense

[thorn sleet]

Then bulk up your divisions.

And show your deployed manpower.

[hard depot]

i did try to reduce my UI, but there's this bug that i can't even click the menu or anything

like, literally anything unless if I find the specific spot that's not even in the buttons

[quasi osprey]

to be fair I expected more from the italian airforce

[zenith charm]

i mean

it's italy after all

[quasi osprey]

true

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok army for democratic germany 1939

is this navy good or no?

[heavy vigil]

thats not how the game works, and your div count is really low

but having large / high hp units works

[hard depot]

was aiming for more org

[heavy vigil]

spam 2 widths /j

org doesnt kill or prevent losses

its a thing you just get

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[surreal mist]

i love when people post pictures of 300 divisions as soviet, thinking that's a lot, when you're supposed to have 600-700

[dusky burrow]

battleship plushie be like

[dusky burrow]

that's quite a lot, but depends on divisional template

[hard depot]

holy hell

[dusky burrow]

good luck

[hard depot]

i may have scorched earth...

[quasi osprey]

most of them are just this also have a few panzer divisions mountaineers and motorised

[hard depot]

one dude had like, 24 width infantry division and only had 1 aa and one engi and one support arty, bro had a thousand divisions

[dusky burrow]

that might not be enough but you should be close to ready

[dusky burrow]

i won once with around 400 divisions

no, more like 300 actually

it wasn't even a contest, the germans actually got destroyed

[cedar lance]

i have a couple thousand divs as Germany in Bice

[surreal mist]

ai dies to anything, but realistically you want at least 500 divs by barb or a germany player will run you over

[dusky burrow]

to be fair i was really tank heavy

like 60 tank divisions

not 72, that's a bit too much

[hard depot]

last time I had 500 divisions only to get steamrolled when they naval invaded me by the baltics

[cedar lance]

fr?

[dusky burrow]

yeah german naval invasions can be problematic

[hard depot]

now I have 24 divisions on the coast

[cedar lance]

man

i feel sorry for yalls

every time i play As Estonia in MD i get steamrolled and naval invaded by russia as SOON as i declare war against russia or belarus

[hard depot]

the only good game I had was the Muricans

i just defeated japan in just, 4 months

[hard depot]

i had to force the majority of my fleet (except for the 30 subs) on the black sea just incase

[dusky burrow]

yeah japan is really easy to defeat

[cedar lance]

how hard is it to defeat ussr?

[dusky burrow]

pretty easy in vanilla

because ussr really does not put a good defense

you can defeat it with like 120 divisions

[cedar lance]

alr

thats why i spam out cheap divs

as Germany

and send most of em to eastern front

while keeping enough in western front

[quasi osprey]

are these factories enough for ww2

[cedar lance]

idk

[quasi osprey]

for germany

[cedar lance]

alr

imo its good enough @quasi osprey

[quasi osprey]

ok

[quasi osprey]

what about my navy

[cedar lance]

looks good

[quasi osprey]

ok

[cedar lance]

you should produce/build carriers aswell

[cedar lance]

@quasi osprey

[quasi osprey]

oh ok

[cedar lance]

alr

idk how many tho

[quasi osprey]

the french dont know whats coming for them

[cedar lance]

alr

i do have 6.5k ships as Estonia

[quasi osprey]

I am also building this idk if its good or not but it adds a lot of soft attack

[dusky burrow]

instant construction cheat?

[quasi osprey]

I think this is a pretty nice empire considering I only had one war

[dusky burrow]

when did you get cameroon

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[heavy vigil]

why 24 tho

[hard depot]

Isn't that like, 12 battalions shoved into a division?

[heavy vigil]

usually people use it for really silly templates

meta is 32/36/38

32 is good all terrains

36 and 38 are bad in mountain, marsh, forest respectively

nothing is good in jungle

[cedar lance]

yes

[gaunt hearth]

is this good

[cedar lance]

in SP i can do whatevs i want

i have Many thousands of divs

for both western and eastern fronts

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/isopod-dance-silly-silly-guy-bounce-gif-9098501747213389321

[cedar lance]

wat

i have Thousands of divs as Germany

[heavy vigil]

hii marko :) how are you?

[cedar lance]

hello casey im good hbu

i yesterday played BICE

[heavy vigil]

was it fun?

in doing okay!

[cedar lance]

yes it was fun

tho i cant use the focus trees

[gaunt hearth]

german run be like (35m allies casualties)

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil hey btw

i cant use the carriers in bice

[heavy vigil]

sad :(

[cedar lance]

it says i dont have the right modules

even tho i researched em all

in vanilla/base game i can

use the carriers

[heavy vigil]

IDK i dont play BICE

[cedar lance]

alr

idk myself

[hard depot]

Yeah but like, what does 32 width do?
Do I just shove in something that bumps that number?

[heavy vigil]

bigger hp takes less losses

you lose org

but org is only relevant if you want to extend battles (regardless of casualties/kills)

[hard depot]

Yeah but like, what's the Generic template for it?

[heavy vigil]

its bad for like winning

[heavy vigil]

uhhh

16 inf (4x4), support howitzer (artillery is an ok substitute), logistics company (individual excellence doctrine buffs it), ranger recon, engineer/military engineer vehicle, field hospital

is usually the supports you want

[cedar lance]

i also dont know why they wont work

[hard depot]

I used to play BICE

It's hell.

[cedar lance]

alr

BICE is my MOST FAV mod

[hard depot]

You have to manage food

Yes, food exists in BICE

[cedar lance]

yes ik

i played BICE before

a long time ago

[gaunt hearth]

aw hell nah

aint touching BICE with a 50 foot pole

[hard depot]

you wont have food? say goodbye to your population, stability and your economy

[gaunt hearth]

can we atleast commit the most horrific warcrimes

that hitler or stalin didnt even imagine

[hard depot]

i dunno i left it 6 months ago

[gaunt hearth]

oh

[hard depot]

all I play is vanilla HOI4 now

[gaunt hearth]

i was gonna starve them to death

i aint listening to the geneva suggestion

[hard depot]

But, factories are more numerous than vanilla

if there's 60-80 base factories in france, you get 200 in BICE

(I think)

[cedar lance]

jesus

[gaunt hearth]

can you commit warcrimes is my biggest question

[hard depot]

.......

𝙉𝙤

[gaunt hearth]

lame

in my ragnarok 1939 save i just keep bombing britain so much that itll be considered a war crime

first thing ill do after i research nukes is drop it on london

[hard depot]

My god i'm buckling in the first barb I get....

(Maxxing out forts was a good idea after all....)

[gaunt hearth]

thats not that bad but yea just pump out better units

or get your damn army in a fighting shape first

[hard depot]

I'm out of equipment 😭

[gaunt hearth]

oh

maintenance company 👍🏻

[gaunt hearth]

ooffff

make more mills and assign 150 to guns ig idk

[hard depot]

I got 116 civs on construction.

[gaunt hearth]

youre screwed

[hard depot]

ANYTHING FOR THE WAR EFFORT.

[heavy vigil]

why different lines

[lunar jasper]

hi guys i might need help i tried to download mod and this didnt work i do put it on playlist and everything reinstalled the game and nothing work if someone that had same problem can help me tag me

[gaunt hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-reaction-reaction-elite-dangerous-borann-boys-gif-25049405

[heavy vigil]

47 on guns is also not a lot

[lunar jasper]

is there any way that i can open ticket?

[hard depot]

cause one line takes too long to increase rate of production so i figured why not make 2 more

[heavy vigil]

dm the @grizzled delta

[heavy vigil]

no its the same

its per factory

theres no point in doing multiple lines unless you dont have enough resources so you use the like

free buffer you get more

[lunar jasper]

ok

i did

[heavy vigil]

like its its the same thing

[lunar jasper]

but lwky my mods arent working and its just ruined all of my fun

[heavy vigil]

have you tried #ask-for-help-here or #tech-support for that

where people yk

provide help with game stuff

[hard depot]

thank god no one dared to make an offensive here

[thick vector]

😝

[hard depot]

War Thunder.

[winter badge]

Im so used to coloured puppets i felt weird seeing puppets with other colour

[quasi osprey]

is this a good industry for germany

and 13% consumer goods

[misty fossil]

67

[cedar lance]

should i go play bice mod again

[trim pike]

Try motorising supply hubs

[trim pike]

And send screenshots of the issue here

[trim pike]

No

[cedar lance]

why not?

[hard depot]

Honestly since I produce so much trucks, I just motorize the best supply lines every time

[zenith charm]

i think i might need guns

[hard depot]

Why is there no M3 Lee model ingame?

Atleast the Crusader's there

[snow rain]

There is a m3 model though

It's the basic medium as usa iirc

[hard depot]

W h a t

I only have the (whatever the hell checzh tank this is) and the Sherman and the M4 Yoh yoh yoh

[snow rain]

Wdym checz tank as usa

[hard depot]

This weird tank with rivers and 2 cannons and stuff

Rivets*

Looks like those Checzh tanks you see

[snow rain]

Gonna check on my part in a few min, brb

[heavy vigil]

yes

it might be interwar though

i forgot

[hard depot]

there's literally no M3 Lee

[cedar lance]

godamn it

i wanted to test out world ablaze

but it crashed before i got into main menu

[thick vector]

Do you know how many United States ships there are?

[snow rain]

basic medium

[hard depot]

I meant the 3D Model

Not the 2D and Template

[snow rain]

oh

[hard depot]

As in: The actual 3D model of the tank

[snow rain]

might not be then

[cedar lance]

hello franci

[heavy vigil]

its interwar i think

try

[cedar lance]

hello casey

[heavy vigil]

hii

[hard depot]

That's interwar

[heavy vigil]

no thats basic

try the model of interwar medium iirc thats it

[hard depot]

My image is Interwar

[heavy vigil]

oh ok

[cedar lance]

i tried to test out world ablaze

it crashed

[hard depot]

I had to load in a new USA game

[heavy vigil]

why?

[cedar lance]

why does some mods crash my hoi4 game

[hard depot]

Just to test

[heavy vigil]

because theyre out of date or incompatible

[heavy vigil]

you know you can just see outdated techs

and produce them if you want too

[cedar lance]

yes ik

but World ablaze mod is on the latest version

[thick vector]

Ok

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

IDK

[sudden thistle]

I seen it before

There should be one

Or it could also be the allied armour pack I got

[cedar lance]

sorry im just confused

[sudden thistle]

It may be a basic chassis?

[trim plume]

3 a day bro?

pray that the enemy also ran out of rifles bro

[stable trench]

Lwk i think this is the best 1941 tank i can make with my tech, any tips? (R56)

[trim plume]

reliability should atleast be 50

other than that its fine

also why the soft attack

[stable trench]

what things can i do to improve it?

[heavy vigil]

doesnt rlly matter

riveted armor would reduce 20% of the cost

[trim plume]

true...

[heavy vigil]

picking self propelled artillery is also 20% less

[trim plume]

well

it does matter to me

[stable trench]

soft attack is against infantry so i just thought it would be smart if im going to invade germany, im as the USA

[trim plume]

because erm

[heavy vigil]

so you could save 40% cost per batallion from 2 buttons

[trim plume]

make it as soft arty

then

[stable trench]

oh WAIT i didnt notice that my hard attack is 2.0 ohhhh

[trim plume]

and then make an actual medium tank with hard tack

yeah

ts at 2.0 brodie

ur dealing with germany

[hard depot]

I have 2 Cosmetic Packs already loaded in

[heavy vigil]

only matters against units with high hardness

[cedar lance]

how GOOD is World ablaze mod

[hard depot]

Allied Armor and the Prototype vehicles

[trim plume]

just against germany

they have like tanks

[stable trench]

i should prob want it to have like 20 of each right

there we go

[heavy vigil]

no

[trim plume]

i js create 2 super tank divisions

and spam infantry

[zenith charm]

dont worry i later had 75 mills on guns i could make 300

[stable trench]

ow

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt matter 😭

[trim plume]

what!!1

[heavy vigil]

their tanks have like 20% hardness

youre gonna do like 80% of your soft attack and 20% of your hard

[trim plume]

oh so it is just soft attack

[heavy vigil]

your soft is a lot higher

[stable trench]

so 50 hard 5 soft

[trim plume]

Soft is better im guessing

[heavy vigil]

well it matters if they make units with hardness

but thats like

1950+ stuff

[stable trench]

no sorry

[trim plume]

does hard pierce strength

i don't remember

[stable trench]

50 soft 5 hard

[heavy vigil]

no

its only about hardness bar

it does the same as soft

[trim plume]

i just pick the highest number bro

ts too complicated

number go up GOOD

[hard depot]

I got Allied Armor and Prototype Vehicles already loaded in

There's no M3 Lee model

[stable trench]

This will be my template, the width is fine i think

[hard depot]

(Except for the template of course)

[lethal ether]

please dont use this

[stable trench]

whats the issue

dont worry i havent used it yet

the only issue i see is the speed

[prisma steppe]

how tf is the average relibility like 60%?

[stable trench]

the relibility of my tanks are nice

[prisma steppe]

nvm i am shizophrenic

wait you have recon yet dogshit recon stat

[cedar lance]

is WA a GOOD Mod?

[prisma steppe]

how does that work

[hard depot]

The mod that gives you like, anarchy chaos everywherw

Yeah no clue, I only played Black Ice and RT56/GW Redux

[cedar lance]

alr

[prisma steppe]

Black ICE is the good guys White ICE the bad guys

[stable trench]

i mean IDK i just want to blow up the soldiers of mustache man

[stable trench]

what

[trim plume]

yall talkin bout some black ice

[prisma steppe]

Black ICE the mod and (White) ICE the discounter SS

[trim plume]

when its just a mod that adds confusing mechanics

and doesn't do anything to make it interesting

other than make it harder to play hoi4

[prisma steppe]

black ice has the funny designer

[trim plume]

can we kill people like you

it should be an option

[prisma steppe]

but if i wanted to have the funny designer i would play the NSB designer ultra expanded

its like you can decide the angle and thickness of the major armor plates on the tank

[trim plume]

im crine

[lost nymph]

Man I wish the team would improve the QOL stuff with patches before they do more content...

[thick vector]

[knotty vortex]

how do i deal with turkeys decisions

with like the kurds and stuff

cause i wanna do ottoman empire

[thick vector]

Please add more cat emojis

[hard depot]

Is there a USA Rework mod?

[heavy vigil]

why ask me

[ember wyvern]

hello im new

i don't know what i just put myself through but

[hard depot]

Why not :sob:

[ember wyvern]

why is war so hard bro

[robust basalt]

he is an higher individual

[hard depot]

Ill just look it up myself.

[real oar]

whoops

[lost nymph]

Something like that will happen to me in a few seconds too because my second fleet wont engage despite being next to it and set to always engage. t- tards

[real oar]

nah it was me making regia marina actually capable this time

but i just usually steal navies from countries and hope it won't die xD

[mental rapids]

i finally learned navy 😭

[lost nymph]

As you can see this wasnt my fleet it 😛 . The big chunk that is next to it who dont want to engage are a mix from soviets and Chilean ships. The only ships that are t3 are mine and they also wont engage. Thanks to that I lost the fleet from france...

[snow rain]

those 2 carriers wouldn't have saved you tbf

[real oar]

so they were just like nah not our fight wow you can always count on ai breaking your plans when you are allied to them

[lost nymph]

like I said they wont engage therfore they are not on the grid. They decided NOW is there time becasue the spotter fleet is dead ... must be a really good admiral. I think I need to give him the boot.

[misty fossil]

Bro is going through a canon event rn

will it make him learn navy or will he forever eschew it and just say “i dont know navy”?

[lost nymph]

My guess is there are only a few people that know truly the navy.

[knotty vortex]

so uh

how do i deal with the french as the ottomans

[heavy vigil]

kill them

[ivory hull]

paradrop

[knotty vortex]

erm

i dont mean to alarm you

france is like

a bazillion miles away

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[ivory hull]

what about germany

or italy

[hard depot]

Send the mod brotha.

[ivory hull]

just play kx

[sudden thistle]

Literally search in USA rework

On steam workshop

[hard depot]

KX?

Got busy on GW Redux

[knotty vortex]

i actually hate the stupid uprisings in turkey

what are they

they genuinely just ruin my infrastructure

[sudden thistle]

The cheese kurds

[knotty vortex]

yes bro theyre so annoying

[sudden thistle]

Honestly I just ignore it

[knotty vortex]

i try too

i need to find a tutorial for ottomans bruh

[ivory hull]

its an alternate history mod that has basically focus trees for everybody, and theyre good

[knotty vortex]

also if central europe goes communist ONE MORE TIME

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[knotty vortex]

im changing the game rules

[sudden thistle]

If u mess 1 thing up ur kinda cooked

All I know is that u allow democracy

Then civil war

Then ottomans

[knotty vortex]

yes

that’s good

that’s all fine

but when i get commy yugo

which are guaranteed by the entirety of central and eastern europe

[heavy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337380197808341005/1494666815505305620/togif.gif

[raw valve]

Anyone else excited for next week?

[lost nymph]

why?

[raw valve]

I mean, Czechoslovak focus coming up

Seems pretty cool if you ask me

[knotty vortex]

i am

[raw valve]

😊

[misty fossil]

Why dont you want to learn?

[raw valve]

Nice

[knotty vortex]

i actually managed to beat germany as czechslovakia once

once

and i was so proud

[misty fossil]

Ok i used console for this hold on

This is a bit more fair

[raw valve]

Cool, man! Do you plan on playing as them again?

[knotty vortex]

absolutely

[lost nymph]

and what exactly?

[raw valve]

Which path do you plan on taking first?

[misty fossil]

Navy

[raw valve]

I'm torn between monarchist and alt democratic

[knotty vortex]

does anybody know how to play hoi4 in borderless window so that it doesnt go black whenever i alt + tab to discord

its really annoying

[misty fossil]

no

[lost nymph]

that is nice but I really want QOL

[lost nymph]

So you know everything about the navy ?

[misty fossil]

nah

i know some

[raw valve]

Lol don't we all?

[lost nymph]

nope

[knotty vortex]

has stellaris got any good updates recently

i played it in like august last year

and it was super fun

[wet flicker]

probably the best country in the game ngl

[misty fossil]

yeah

[lost nymph]

How to get dominance here if your ships are docked in Algier?

[misty fossil]

economy nerf

you cant blob as hard anymore so less lag

[knotty vortex]

i just remember making huge fleets of ships

and then controlling basically everything

then the fallen empire appeared.

and you can assume what happened there

[raw valve]

That's what I think. The country which could have really started WW2 before Poland.

[knotty vortex]

okay real question here, how do you guys create offensive units for a nation like turkey

because i really wanna play the ottoman empire

[raw valve]

Navy is one of mankind's greatest mysteries

[knotty vortex]

but i struggle so bad with the army

[raw valve]

That depends on who you're planning on attacking

[lost nymph]

so you dont know how to get the dominance here 😉

[knotty vortex]

well i need to take greece and yugoslavia

yugo will probably draw in the allies

[raw valve]

Well, yes(?) Did I claim to?

[wet flicker]

you could start it yourself once you form the austro-hungarian empire too

or the association of autonomous states

[raw valve]

Hum, they're not very armored focused. Just slap some good soft attack modifiers and you'll be good. Also try getting some mountaineers

[wet flicker]

same thing but its not austria-hungary like romanias i think it is

[raw valve]

I'm so eager to play monarchist bohemia

[wet flicker]

i havent tried yet

[lost nymph]

lol ,wrong quote 😄

[knotty vortex]

im gonna give mountaineers a try

[wet flicker]

i did communist czech

[wet flicker]

mountaineers + arty

[raw valve]

It's only coming up next week, my guy

[knotty vortex]

lets see the div template

[raw valve]

Yeah, I think you should be good

[knotty vortex]

should i build civs as turkey

[wet flicker]

this is good too

[lost nymph]

would be nice if we could use crt+h for a bunch of divisions at once

[knotty vortex]

these actually look super good

expensive but good

not sure i could do them as ottomans early

[wet flicker]

you can do the mountaineer ones pretty early tbh i made mine in late 1937

or middle

just do the mountaineer layout then 3 arty only instead of what i got

[stable trench]

Dude ts is like 1776 USA VS 2016 USA

[wet flicker]

it cost 33 army exp

or 35 im pretty sure it was an uneven number tho

[lost nymph]

so tell me how to get the western mediterranean sea dominance when the ships are already docked in Algier when you know it all...

[raw valve]

Holy combat width

[knotty vortex]

czech industry is better than turkey

[raw valve]

35. All army modifications are multiples of five

[raw valve]

Yes it is. Czechoslovakia's problems during the early 20th century were more social than economic

[stable trench]

A biplane while some of my planes have jets already

[wet flicker]

it sucks not having the dlc where you can take over the countries navy after you beat them

because i have no way other than paratroopers to take over the uk right now

and the uk smacked my paratroopers last time i tried taking the south above the channel

[raw valve]

Do you need another way? Paratroopers rock!

[wet flicker]

true

[wet flicker]

but usa is in the allies as well now

[raw valve]

F

[wet flicker]

fr

im extremely strong with no navy

just an airforce

its gonna take me a while to get to america

[wet flicker]

other than infantry

i do have greenland

[agile perch]

what country you playing as

[wet flicker]

Czechoslovakia

after you do austro-hungarian empire in the decisions

[stable trench]

R56 is the GOAT

[misty fossil]

fallen empire? must have been the wind

[misty fossil]

this has to be ragebait

[patent thistle]

AFAR LANDING IN TEBRUK

italy are you even trying?

[cursive oxide]

can i get some help in vc ?

[frail estuary]

does anyone know how to get a navy for tannu tuva

[atomic grove]

u cant

to get a navy u need to own a coastal state with a port before a war with a country that has a navy

and u also need to keep owning that same port at the end of the war

[knotty vortex]

bro is it just me that NEVER gets naval invasion notifcations

[robust vale]

Does somebody have a strategy on how to complete the Carlist spain focus tree? I am capable of winning the civil war but then I don't really know what to do to kill the Allies and US

[shell dagger]

does anybody know mods that add torpedo boats, frigates or smaller watercraft?

[slate pilot]

hi

[frail estuary]

me

[frail estuary]

turn off ironman mode turn on in console focus.autocomplete

[slate pilot]

The game keeps giving me a “game has stopped” error. What should I do?

[frail estuary]

turn it back on

[slate pilot]

always the same

[frail estuary]

there is a button on steam

to verify files

[slate pilot]

I did it, but it didn't work

just has this dlc

[frail estuary]

steam/library/hoi4/manage (its a gear button on the right of your screen)/properties/installed files

[slate pilot]

yes but it didnt work

[unkempt zodiac]

CHAT

[frail estuary]

and you're on this screen?

press that left button

[unkempt zodiac]

the uk destroyed EVERY single ship except for one which i still put on patrol anyway and i lowkey got the naval supremacy with one single ship after getting me navy destroyed 😭

[slate pilot]

this screen

[frail estuary]

okay there is a button you should find for verifying files

[slate pilot]

I tried it; it's being verified

[frail estuary]

okay

if it does not work then open hoi4 once, let it crash, then type in error.log in search

[slate pilot]

okey

[frail estuary]

if you use windows you can just type the error.log into the search bar

I don't know for other computers

[slate pilot]

[14:15:14][no_game_date][dlc.cpp:222]: Invalid supported_version in file: mod/ugc_2393439171.mod line: 10
[14:16:03][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:69]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "GER_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with GER super_heavy_tank_aa_chassis
[14:16:03][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:69]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "GER_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with GER super_heavy_tank_chassis
[14:16:03][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:69]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "GER_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with GER super_heavy_tank_destroyer_chassis
[14:16:03][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:69]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "GER_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with GER super_heavy_tank_artillery_chassis
[14:16:03][no_game_date][equipment_graphic_database.cpp:69]: Entity referenced in equipment graphic database does not exist: "SOV_super_heavy_armor_entity", associated with SOV super_heavy_tank_chassis

[robust vale]

with complete I meant defeating the allies 😭

[slate pilot]

@frail estuary

[frail estuary]

whats that top error

I don't know it, but it looks like theres an invalid version of something

[slate pilot]

I think it's a mod

Should I remove all the mods?

[rich gulch]

which path is the strongest for portugal

support nationalists or royal wedding

[viscid mason]

Since eu5's start date is in 1337 and ends in 1837 overlapping ck3 and vic3. Should hoi5 (or a hoi spinoff) have ww1 in it (along with a seperate ww2 bookmark of course) since vic3 isnt good at simulating ww1?

[slate pilot]

@frail estuary

[viscid mason]

@heavy vigil sorry for pinging. Thought this would be interesting dicussion

[viscid mason]

More stable than vic3 imao sometimes it crashes for no reason.

[slate pilot]

vict3?

[heavy vigil]

google hoi1, hoi2, hoi3

[viscid mason]

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

the search results will shock you

vic3 ends in 1936

[slate pilot]

what vic3

[heavy vigil]

victoria 3

[slate pilot]

oh okey

[viscid mason]

Merde I forgot about that.

[viscid mason]

And eu5 ends in 1837. Now since I also think about it paradox should have released a hundred years war game starting from 1337 and ending in 1453. With eu5 picking up after that as apparently people only play the first 100 or 200 years in EU. But then again they tried this with March of the Eagles and that failed. Just my yapping.

[heavy vigil]

march of the eagles could be a good game

[viscid mason]

True it could have been a bridge game between eu and vic tbh

[heavy vigil]

i see it as like

[amber finch]

heya

[heavy vigil]

eu->1780 (napoleon game) -> 1836 (vic) -> 1890-1900 (ww1 game) -> 1936 (hoi4)

[amber finch]

anything to think of while starting a game? so overwhealming!! 😮 😛

[heavy vigil]

thatd be cool but idk

[reef lava]

yay we got czechoslovakia focus trees

[heavy vigil]

uhh a lot

[reef lava]

now i demand Luxembourg focus trees

[loud shuttle]

How does someone even accomplish this

[viscid mason]

Planes

[loud shuttle]

I dont see no german planes involved

[weary lagoon]

notice the 251 german battleships

[viscid mason]

Look a the medals of the admiral hs

[amber finch]

yeah.. well. i guess start to learn as i go 😄

[loud shuttle]

Right

Now explain this

[sly venture]

how early do i have to invade france as italy so they dont jointhe allies

[viscid mason]

I did mention what if we had a hyw game between ck and eu so it would be like

Ck -> 1337 (hundred years war game) -> 1453 (eu) -> mote -> vic -> ww1 game -> hoi4

[zenith charm]

like

1937-1938

[sly venture]

i capitulated them in may 1937 and they still joined

[zenith charm]

yea u gotta kill really early

realistically they should do it in like late 38-1939 imo

[sly venture]

going to try mid 1936

or late

[frail estuary]

yes

[rich gulch]

bruh

its impossible to expand in south america as portugal

[sly venture]

i dont think its possible

[rich gulch]

us just threatens to declare on me

[sly venture]

november of 1936 and they joined

[rigid crane]

Did u play US or Japan?

[amber finch]

anyone knows if Hoi4 comes on sale? or just buy full-priced?

[low dock]

Guys how am I doing?

[stoic flame]

yo

[sly venture]

gggsggsggs

[zenith charm]

has to do with tension i think

[ripe slate]

HOI IV very frequently goes on sale so Id just wait

[amber finch]

ty

[sly venture]

will be a long wait tho because i think it will most likely go on sale in the summer steam sale

[amber finch]

alright!

[unique grove]

mods like tno and millenium dawn need a tldr option so you dont have to read an essay for every single decision who agrees

[rain rapids]

hi

[craggy trail]

Hello

Welcome!

[rain rapids]

is this server lgbt safe

just asking

lol

[craggy trail]

Everyone is welcome

[rain rapids]

:3

[heavy vigil]

lgbt hostile rahhh 🦖

[craggy trail]

You are in the official Hearts of Iron IV discord. There's many people from many different places and backgrounds

[terse skiff]

Aren't we all nz femboys?

[wide osprey]

fortezza bombardino crocodilo

[sour sluice]

are challenges EVER coming back?

[sharp ginkgo]

wtf 😭 😭

[terse skiff]

Chinas only major if it leads the United front

[stark elbow]

y'all atp i wonder if someone will make a mod that covers current geopolitcal tensions and events

[sharp ginkgo]

wait SERIOUSLY??

jesus

[terse skiff]

Yeah China doesn't start as major

[icy egret]

yeah it’s a bit weird

[sharp ginkgo]

so why the hell are the PHILLIPINES A MAJOR

[winged field]

there is one probably

[sharp ginkgo]

WHY NOT CANADA OR MEXICO

[median juniper]

[winged field]

if you search enough

[median juniper]

that is pretty funny

[sharp ginkgo]

i just want to end this stupid war with the 4th international i'm basically soloing the entire world LMAO

[stark elbow]

probably a millenium dawn extension

[winged field]

yeah

[median juniper]

nice pfp cairo

[sharp ginkgo]

i'm loosely affiliated with japan but its been me and poland against spain, turkey, the US, canada, mexico, and now china, and like 50 other minor countries :c

[stark elbow]

millenium dawn is one of the most time stealing mods imo, and when playing italy its literally a politcal simulator

[sharp ginkgo]

thank you ^^

[stark elbow]

btw dont y'all think that maybe american focus tree should get a rework? literally, bulgaria has a wider and funnier tree

[sharp ginkgo]

i'd say we're doing pretty well for myself (I'M doing well for myself and poland is effectively clout-chasing)

[shrewd inlet]

They’re disrespecting chiang

[shrewd inlet]

Oh my god.

[sharp ginkgo]

i have 350 hours and i'm yet to play the US or Russia lol

[shrewd inlet]

Best looking pfp ive seen

[sharp ginkgo]

i loaded up russia once and went "jesus christ NOPE"

[shrewd inlet]

Oh 100% yes

[shrewd inlet]

Russia isn’t bad

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/scream-if-you-love-bulgaria-scream-bulgaria

[shrewd inlet]

Just rush the great purge

[winged field]

the most broken tree btw

cuz of the patriarch focus

[shrewd inlet]

Bulgaria is so fun

[winged field]

its so bums

[stark elbow]

TRUE AF when i play ussr i have to be quick and timed to manage paranoia, industry and other focuses

[shrewd inlet]

Russia isn’t that bad

😭

[terse skiff]

Ussr isn't hard

[shrewd inlet]

True

[sharp ginkgo]

i've had an affinity for france and austria-hungary but this is the first time i've ever actually successfully done it

[shrewd inlet]

You get insane spy bonus

[shrewd inlet]

Austria is really fun

[median juniper]

glimmy #1 :p

[shrewd inlet]

Fighting Germany as Austria is peak

[terse skiff]

Yeah smersh bonuses are insane

[sharp ginkgo]

i usually paly non-historical nowadays so 10 of my attempts have been killed off by austria getting to otto first

[stark elbow]

i can only play it extra defensive on the dnepr

[pearl flume]

Lol

[median juniper]

interesting pair of countries to have partitioning europe

[terse skiff]

Also you can pump out 100 36w tank divisions before barb

[shrewd inlet]

Literally the strongest unicorn & she’s able to keep up with a alicorn, we love stoplight glimmy

[stark elbow]

ts maybe was my peakest run in hoi

[sharp ginkgo]

LMAO

[shrewd inlet]

What divs are you running

[terse skiff]

Cuz your industry is too low

[stark elbow]

in this run 7/2...

[terse skiff]

Historical expansion ussr should be able to get to 300 factories

[shrewd inlet]

Line arti?

[stark elbow]

yeah

[sharp ginkgo]

i was going to murder poland but they were the only other member of my faction and 100 divs is 100 divs, even if they've been effectively useless for the entire war

[terse skiff]

Is this from like 2018?

[shrewd inlet]

Honestly if you just wanna hold use 16w infantry

[stark elbow]

nope lol some months ago

[shrewd inlet]

It’s super cheap

[terse skiff]

Wtf

[heady bison]

i havent played in a few months, does warfare feel different with all the beta changes?

[terse skiff]

7/2 is from like pre nsb

[heady bison]

or is it mostly a naval change

[shrewd inlet]

Fr

[sharp ginkgo]

this is my terrible template 🙏

[stark elbow]

IK HAHAHAHA

[sharp ginkgo]

somehow its worked to take down like 500 divs so far

[stark elbow]

only recently y'all suggested me to go with 9 inf

[shrewd inlet]

Is this offensive?

Flame tanks are good

[terse skiff]

Where did you get 7/2 advice?

That's insane

[shrewd inlet]

Tommykay

[sharp ginkgo]

i don't usually have different templates

[stark elbow]

i think hearts of iron forums

[terse skiff]

Sigh

[stark elbow]

maybe outdated

[sharp ginkgo]

there's no support companies because i have 300 divs and can't keep up with that much support equipment :p

[terse skiff]

Check the date first in a forum

[winged field]

its not bad but you having supports like flame tanks which are for offensive divs mainly

[shrewd inlet]

Ah ic, uhh if you wanna hold, I’d just drop the flame tanks, if you wanna push just make the infantry bigger

[misty fossil]

Me watching people put line artillery into divisions

[sharp ginkgo]

i've been mostly offensiev all game and i've not needed to defend

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[shrewd inlet]

Id add hospitals so you don’t lose your manpower or xp

[median juniper]

Engineer often more than pays for itself, though most companies should probably be saved for the better divisions

[stark elbow]

i go full civs till 40 then all mills

[misty fossil]

If you’re doing line artillery please just do artillery only and die

[shrewd inlet]

Engis are goated

[sharp ginkgo]

see like... i would but.....

[terse skiff]

Your industry is big problem then

[shrewd inlet]

Good god

[terse skiff]

Build mils 3.5 years before the war

[heady bison]

is en svensk tiger achievement even possible now? germany doesnt produce tigers it seems, let alone give sweden the license

[shrewd inlet]

BASED

[misty fossil]

Bro has 1 mil on support eq

[shrewd inlet]

I LOVE YOU (platonic)

We love civ greed

[terse skiff]

Civ greeding and still only 250 factories mean your industry is very bad

[sharp ginkgo]

i have 25 :c

[misty fossil]

2% production efficiency?

[sharp ginkgo]

LOL

[misty fossil]

are you on dispersed industry

[sharp ginkgo]

having to solo fight 1000 divisions is difficult okay..

[sharp ginkgo]

yes

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[sharp ginkgo]

LMAO

IS IT THAT BAD

[stark elbow]

well, to build forts on the big river i need civs, by stopping to build military i wouldnt be able to do that in time, furthermore, if im playing defensive on river + forts equipment doesnt drain

[misty fossil]

its so bad

its terrible

[shrewd inlet]

Dispersed is okay, consentrated is always better tho

[misty fossil]

ur shooting itself in the foot by going dispersed as a major

[median juniper]

wasn't the old advice often/always dispersed?

[shrewd inlet]

the extra output scales like crazy

[median juniper]

I wonder when that changed

[misty fossil]

no

not at all

[shrewd inlet]

iirc yeah

[sharp ginkgo]

okay yeah actually looking back at it you get 25% more output by level 5

oops

[median juniper]

I remember when it was only like Hungary that went concentrated

and maybe 1-2 other countries

this is like 8 years ago

[shrewd inlet]

I mean it's not horrible, if you have no air then maybe?-

[median juniper]

[terse skiff]

Then stop building forts

[misty fossil]

just console and research concentrated

ez

[shrewd inlet]

but I always go concentrated

[sharp ginkgo]

i usually just can't keep up iwth air and navy most of the time :c

[misty fossil]

Yeah same

[stark elbow]

did u core germany?

[misty fossil]

I always go concentrated

[shrewd inlet]

who are you playing as?

[misty fossil]

who u playing as

sov?

[sharp ginkgo]

i'm only just now making fighters and cas in 1944 after taking down the soviets

i'm playing austria-hungary

[misty fossil]

Oh

You have a lot of manpower

[shrewd inlet]

I'll give you a little secret for sp

[misty fossil]

yeah that makes sense

[stark elbow]

im kinda sure it will get me killed, i use rivers + forts to make them loose alot of mp and equipment, and to save mine.

[sharp ginkgo]

trying to do navy and air usually screws me over me

[misty fossil]

honestly just do annex all

Jk

[sharp ginkgo]

cause then i'm so far behind

[shrewd inlet]

you can roll the world with just infantry and air sob 😭

in sp

[misty fossil]

navy is easy

[shrewd inlet]

like, cas damage is significantly buffed

[misty fossil]

ignore me using console for the admiral

[median juniper]

tanks speed it up so much though so its still worth

[stark elbow]

hoi4 discord chat told me to spam cruisers

[misty fossil]

nah

Dont listen to what people tell you

[sharp ginkgo]

I KEEP GETTING AUTOMODDED

[misty fossil]

i just build a normal fleet

[shrewd inlet]

Oh yeah, I personally am just too lazy to make them most of the time

[stark elbow]

cruisers mb

[misty fossil]

and KILL

[sharp ginkgo]

okay

[sharp ginkgo]

poland took half the states in germany

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[shrewd inlet]

Light cruiser light attack iirc was the meta

if you had the infantry SHBBs were insane for soaking damage

[sharp ginkgo]

i also don't wanna be the EU :c

[stark elbow]

well those are still some juicy states

[shrewd inlet]

dont build any bbs except shbb, 1936, 40, 44 all have worse stats

[sharp ginkgo]

i've got the historical austria-hungary cored sooo

[shrewd inlet]

and by 44 the game is over

[stark elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/european-union-flag-gif-europe-alisa-gif-27328817

[sharp ginkgo]

i'm at 4 mill pop

[misty fossil]

I love shbb

[shrewd inlet]

SHBBs are so funny

[sharp ginkgo]

GOD DAMN

[shrewd inlet]

just shit them out as the USA, with screens and carrier planes and you win

[stark elbow]

what is that flag u have

[misty fossil]

i lost that shbb to a torp

um

formable countries mod

[shrewd inlet]

accurate

I needa find my old naval game

[sharp ginkgo]

i have had one single significant navy victory back when i was trying to learn it and by god did it feel good

but i suck at navy

[shrewd inlet]

It was my first game as the USA in a mod

[misty fossil]

navy is easy

like

idk

[sharp ginkgo]

i know the basics to a certain extent

i just can't manage to research any of it and keep my army and industry uptodate

[misty fossil]

This is before ncns

[stark elbow]

if i cant fight navy w navy i fight navy w air.
If i cant fight air w air, i fight air w inf
if i cant fight inf w inf, i use nukes

[misty fossil]

I miss pre gotterdammerung when you can use nukes as tactical nukes

[stark elbow]

spammed them on uk

[sharp ginkgo]

now i have to naval invade the US because my stupid faction wont let anyone join outside of europe and i dont have the option to increase my manifest to get rid of it

[misty fossil]

Real

[shrewd inlet]

context was that I was fighting jap with china cored, and the UK as imperial fed with everything cored

mp game

[shrewd inlet]

they jumped me at 38

dk how that's allowed but whatever

[stark elbow]

you lost some eh

[shrewd inlet]

The game was already over

like I was targeted by 2 supermajors

[sharp ginkgo]

also the non-aligned justify debuffs are SO PAINFUL

[shrewd inlet]

then this was my troll norway build against a uk player

starting norwegian subs btw

[stark elbow]

in that case if i have enough mp and time to play i give up and pull out my revanchist spirit

[sharp ginkgo]

i'm trying to justify against syria so i can go and retake the suez cause i can't get any of my shits out the mediterranean and its been like 30 minutes cause of how slow the game is running

[shrewd inlet]

that's what I did

[shrewd inlet]

I just sat in the US with homeland defense act

[sharp ginkgo]

I NEED TO TAKE BACK CAIRO

THATS LIKE

MY PLACE.....

[shrewd inlet]

400 mil factory uk and a cored china by japan I was fighting against

[stark elbow]

bc u come from cairo or bc ur name is cairo

[shrewd inlet]

acc goofy ass game 😭

[terse skiff]

You want to know what sucks more? Wasting ic on forts that can get penetrated easily instead of building better equipment and planes

[sharp ginkgo]

because my name is cairo

[shrewd inlet]

you're egyptian no way

[sharp ginkgo]

i'm a fraud 💔 💔

i'm australian

[median juniper]

oh yeah that modifier is bonkers lol

[shrewd inlet]

I love it

[stark elbow]

those are hardly penetrated, the match lasted till 1945 w no front breach and 6+ million losses on german side

[shrewd inlet]

set base war support on the usa to 90

[terse skiff]

It's harder to penetrate if you just built more equipment and air

[shrewd inlet]

add: extensive conscription

[terse skiff]

Not to mention forts can't attack

[shrewd inlet]

40% core stats iirc?

[orchid needle]

Why is airdropping supplies so trash! You make me sad game.

[terse skiff]

You're making yourself weaker by building forts instead of equipment

[stark elbow]

why should i build equipment if drastically destroying the enemy behind fortified rivers with defense works too?

[shrewd inlet]

this mod was really fun

[misty fossil]

Geelong oil refinery blew up all servos now sell gas at 10x the price

[sharp ginkgo]

IT WHAT

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

Did you not hear

[terse skiff]

You can if you want but you'll find it much more fun and quick to defeat Germany if you built mils instead of forts

[misty fossil]

The one oil refinery in vic blew up yesterday

[sharp ginkgo]

sorry mods 🥰

[misty fossil]

tfw no gas

[stark elbow]

soo civs, till 38 and then all military you say?

[terse skiff]

Yeah

[uncut pollen]

[misty fossil]

look that up idk

[sharp ginkgo]

you genuinely have got to be kidding me

[misty fossil]

yeah

surely its not sabotage at all

surely

[terse skiff]

You'll end up with this

[sharp ginkgo]

hoo ray

[misty fossil]

me when this country has two refineries and one blew up

[stark elbow]

ill'try it then, even tho seeing 20:1 its entertaining too

[stark elbow]

what are those templates?

[misty fossil]

Just make 36w inf block then battleplan

it just works

[shrewd inlet]

we love inf battleplan

[sharp ginkgo]

me when this country has two refineries and one blew up and we only have two because of a certain political party that is now losing their shit in the senate because we have no refineries BUT ANYWAY

[agile perch]

why is this game so complicated

[shrewd inlet]

30m casualties but it defeats 99% of players

[misty fossil]

i think the liberals did it

its always the libs

[sharp ginkgo]

yes...

[misty fossil]

anyway no politics

[shrewd inlet]

uhh alota numbers

[sharp ginkgo]

anyway i dont mean to get politicialalsy

[terse skiff]

9 SPG 1 TD 8 mechs + engineer support art support aa med flame logistics, TD is only because +4 axis will produce tanks

[misty fossil]

Me watching people make bad templates

[agile perch]

i need to watch 40 youtube videos to understand one thing

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[sharp ginkgo]

interesting

[terse skiff]

My template is the best

9 atk/cost

[stark elbow]

kk thx i'll try it next run

[shrewd inlet]

segl has some pretty good videos

[stark elbow]

should i attack right after war declaration or should i make them advance a bit?

[agile perch]

his tutorial videos are impossible to follow but ill try

[terse skiff]

Just park 120 of them on the border

[shrewd inlet]

depends, some of them he sucks at explaining yeah

[sharp ginkgo]

the american junta must feel so good about themselves calling 80 nations to help them take on MOROCCO

[terse skiff]

You need to declare on Hungary to start the war cuz Germany won't declare on you if your army is too strong

[sharp ginkgo]

my goddamn ears dude

BEEP BEEPBEEEBPEP

[stark elbow]

kk thx

[agile perch]

i just need to get help with Invading England

[sharp ginkgo]

350 hours and i'm still completely lost on that :c

[misty fossil]

Troll

[sharp ginkgo]

WHAT.

[agile perch]

450 here 😭 😭

[shrewd inlet]

EAW stats lmao

[misty fossil]

yup

i get like

800 with vanilla htds

[shrewd inlet]

I honestly

[sharp ginkgo]

iraq has 50 divs wtf

[shrewd inlet]

dont like the tank meta, I never use tds

[misty fossil]

on the flip side my htd has 290 piercing

and somehow can reinforce meme entire stacks

[shrewd inlet]

I love my slop med tanks

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah tanks are busted

😭

[pearl flume]

What do yall think of this Stalin line?

[shrewd inlet]

good god

[misty fossil]

Bad

You dont have to move that far back

[shrewd inlet]

where's fdr on the front yo

[misty fossil]

someone here posted a better example of where you can hold

[shrewd inlet]

desperate defense 🗣️

[misty fossil]

What

[shrewd inlet]

where's fdr on the front yo

[agile perch]

how many hours do yall got

[terse skiff]

197 factories 💀

[agile perch]

on this ga,e

game

[pearl flume]

Meh, still a meat grinder for the Germans

[misty fossil]

67 hours

jk 1180

[agile perch]

holy dude

[shrewd inlet]

I used to play with my ex a ton

[misty fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797500224997818400/978163803046961223/caption-17-1.gif

[shrewd inlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bald-vince-mcmahon

[misty fossil]

Ur a girl?

[agile perch]

it says i got 750 on steam but when i check in game stat only 450

[shrewd inlet]

Sadly

[hasty linden]

uh is it supposed to look like that?

[shrewd inlet]

im a

wait i probably can't say that

[hasty linden]

do i need glasses or smth like that

🥀

[sharp ginkgo]

WAIT I HAVE THE NUMBER ONE FACTION???

ITS ME AND POLAND

AGAINST THE WORLD

[sharp ginkgo]

HWAT

[shrewd inlet]

LOL