hoi4-general

[knotty vortex]

dont the uk have max air defence in their southern states

[mystic nest]

that means nothing

getting green air over the uk is extremely easy

[knotty vortex]

how do you even paratroop

ive never done it

what do you need

[eternal aspen]

paratroopers

and transport planes

airdropping can onl be done with specific battalions though so be careful

[knotty vortex]

is it actually like

reasonably easy to do as france

cause i cannot be bothered to try and invade the uk and fail for a fourth time

[eternal aspen]

it's pretty reasonable as france

you've got a pretty navy to flaunt, but it's pretty useless

[ripe slate]

Difficult I imagine, you need to outproduce the target on fighters or get lucky

[eternal aspen]

mostly early designs

[eternal aspen]

heavy fighters

wait until you have the medium airframe for 1940

3xt3 engines, and load it with HMG and CNN

[ripe slate]

I recently watched a video calling heavy fighter's cost ineffective

[knotty vortex]

i just realised i dont have to put myself through trying to beat the UK as France and i actually have free will

[eternal aspen]

they are not cost ineffective

my vichy game i js did

2 mils on heavy fighters, and i never went below 100 deployed

i ran outa MP which is why it wasn't more

[mystic nest]

2 mils

[eternal aspen]

yea

[mystic nest]

the real man uses light fighters only

and if they cant reach the enemy

[eternal aspen]

tbf i had concentrated 4 by then

[mystic nest]

then i fight without em

🔥

[eternal aspen]

plus no debuffs on my output

so i was making quite a few

[mystic nest]

anyone down for a quick pve game

im so bored

[eternal aspen]

it was smth like 1.84 a week

[knotty vortex]

are there any youtube walkthroughs of beating the UK as france

[mystic nest]

you dont need a walkthrough

its literally just either 1) build a good airforce

[knotty vortex]

i do lol

[mystic nest]

2. build a good navy

thats it

theres not much a walkthrough can add

[knotty vortex]

tried this 3 times now btw

[mystic nest]

carriers battleships light cruisers?

[knotty vortex]

cruisers

[mystic nest]

you can get channel dominance with like 30 ships

carriers do most of the damage

just spamming light cruisers doesnt work well

[knotty vortex]

do you play civillian mode

[mystic nest]

no

its just that easy

the uk has a lot of ships but theyre bad ships

[knotty vortex]

lmao i had 150 ships in there

[mystic nest]

150 good ships?

[knotty vortex]

0 dominance

[knotty vortex]

majority from the france starting navy

[mystic nest]

that explains it the starting navy is ass

[knotty vortex]

bruh what am i supposed to do

ships genuinely take forever to make

[mystic nest]

then make an air force

[knotty vortex]

but how

[mystic nest]

??? make plane

put plane in production

deploy plane

train plane

[knotty vortex]

okay but how do i make those at the same time as making tanks to actually have good divs

i cannot figure this shit out

[mystic nest]

you have enough industry as france

and you dont even need tanks in sp

[knotty vortex]

what do i need then

[eternal aspen]

what mode are they on?

[mystic nest]

only inf

[knotty vortex]

bro

inf do not cut it

[mystic nest]

ive done three all major conquests with just 18 width infantry

[knotty vortex]

ive tried COUNTLESS times to beat germany with inf

it never works

[mystic nest]

support arty, engi, aa

[eternal aspen]

they do, but you need to be high in doctrine by then

[mystic nest]

inf do make it

[knotty vortex]

bruh that does not work

i would genuinely get crushed

[mystic nest]

🥀 🥀 🥀

[eternal aspen]

is the meta still 9inf or is it smth else?

[mystic nest]

no

[misty fossil]

no

[eternal aspen]

ik it was ages ago

[misty fossil]

meta is producing a ton of fighters

[mystic nest]

its 8/0 defense

i think

18w works for defense too

[misty fossil]

the air war is the ultimate gambit

[mystic nest]

but someone was saying 16w is better

[misty fossil]

if you do the right thing you can make like 67 planes a day on 30 mils

[mystic nest]

and for pushing it was like 32 or 36w

[eternal aspen]

i once beat the allies, comintern, japanese, and most of china before getting bored, as PRC, with no fighters

[mystic nest]

yeah its sp

you can do anything

[misty fossil]

32 for mountains and 36 for everything else

[mystic nest]

you can play the game like an utter dingbat and still cap all majors

[misty fossil]

You can beat the ai with a wet diaper

[knotty vortex]

can somebody just send me their templates at this point

[eternal aspen]

on the hardest diff with buffs to the ai?

[mystic nest]

theyre in pins on #ask-for-help-here

[misty fossil]

https://youtu.be/DiAgmQkN974?si=OgwN4ZMuDpS8BvlB

[knotty vortex]

i use these 🫠

[mystic nest]

how are you getting wrecked with them then

????

[knotty vortex]

you tell me

[mystic nest]

genuinely impressive to do

[eternal aspen]

as PRC (with mass assault doctrine b4 they changed it) 12/3's with hospital, engineer, truck recon, signals and support AA

[mystic nest]

gah prc gameplay

[eternal aspen]

and i beat most of the world, so tbf it's p easy to do

[knotty vortex]

lol im like 170 hours deep and still suck

ive beat germany once as minor

ONCE

[eternal aspen]

okay so hoi4 done updating mods, i kinda wanna play OWB fr now, now that i've talked ab it early

[mystic nest]

how

wtf

what are you doing

[misty fossil]

12/3………………

[mystic nest]

is it like suipply or what

[eternal aspen]

yea

[wide osprey]

is it really funny

[eternal aspen]

these were dark days

[misty fossil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cortisol-low-WndVjjHMZ8dAh9TrhP

[knotty vortex]

ion even know but people here arent usually helpful when i ask for help

[misty fossil]

He pulled it off

[knotty vortex]

and youtube just

doesnt help

[mystic nest]

you have to be more specific

[eternal aspen]

send us a screenshot of the template

[mystic nest]

@eternal aspen you down for a germany italy pve duo?

[misty fossil]

I mean how are we supposed to help

[mystic nest]

ehs using

the pinned template

[misty fossil]

might as well play for you atp

[eternal aspen]

we could

[mystic nest]

in ask for help

templates not the problem

[knotty vortex]

would be nice

[misty fossil]

yeah lol

[eternal aspen]

has to be equipment then

[misty fossil]

idk

[knotty vortex]

are their any youtubers that do uncut videos of them playing

[eternal aspen]

because even just pushing on land should be easy

[mystic nest]

apparently it aint supply either

[wide osprey]

i mean it's kinda boring
all these 1 div wc
china with only infantry
soviet union without army
germany with only heavy tanks etc

😟

[eternal aspen]

no i mean what's being used

[mystic nest]

fair enuf

[misty fossil]

wc in 1 day using annex all

[eternal aspen]

by chance do you have the MAS-38

and the 1939 or whatever arty 2 is

[misty fossil]

isnt that a tank

[eternal aspen]

no that's their gun

[knotty vortex]

can anybody hop in a vc and i can screenshare

[misty fossil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_2C

[eternal aspen]

MAS design of 1938

[knotty vortex]

i just want some help beating the uk tbh

[misty fossil]

its literally a tank

look

[eternal aspen]

that's.. a crappy tank

[misty fossil]

Its france

[eternal aspen]

you'd be better off replicating the historically accurate M5A2 and get astounding results over that thing

[misty fossil]

its a miracle they didnt collapse into total anarchy

[eternal aspen]

sure, what mods we using?

[eternal aspen]

well they is sooner than later, so your wish is being granted

[misty fossil]

real

[mystic nest]

uh i usually play vanilla

without la resistance

[eternal aspen]

alr

i've got all the DLC if you wanna use that

[mystic nest]

aight sure you can host

i would prefer to play germany because like

[misty fossil]

hell

[mystic nest]

ive done maybe two italy runs

[eternal aspen]

that's fine

[mystic nest]

ive also only done like four germany runs

i usually play ussr

[eternal aspen]

i am good at italy dw

i've figured them out to an art

[mystic nest]

the lion shoots at the enemy until the enemy surrenders

[mystic nest]

aight nice

[misty fossil]

The lion walks from vinnytsia to chita but starves to death at omsk

[eternal aspen]

alr i'm just making sure the cosmetic mods i do have enabled are ironman friendly

[mystic nest]

what the hell is supply!??!?!?

[eternal aspen]

the lion doesn't concern himself with capitulation %

[misty fossil]

man

supply is overrated

just do annex sov

[mystic nest]

annex all

[misty fossil]

Yeah

[mystic nest]

why dont the speedrunners do that? are they stupid?

@eternal aspen i MIGHT have to leave before we finish the game

its 10pm so uh

js a heads up

[eternal aspen]

Thats fine

My fiance might force me off my computer bc they get tired and wanna sleep

[mystic nest]

lmfao fair enuf

[eternal aspen]

alr it's good

[mystic nest]

id?

[eternal aspen]

90283582199558160

[mystic nest]

ight

oh

wait im on the beat

beta

[prisma saddle]

what is the best way for doing hardly anything sevres?

[mystic nest]

give me a sec to swap off to the normal lol

[eternal aspen]

alr

[mystic nest]

what does that even mean

[eternal aspen]

achievement?

[mystic nest]

oh

[eternal aspen]

join the axis if possible when ww2 starts

so that you can paradrop into paris to force cap the UK

that way you can take london and paris

backstab the germans and italians for italy

then japan is just a matter of when possible attack them, probably best to try join the commonwealth as they'll be at war with japan if you have NCNS

if not, same setup to jpan, just do it solo or try join the 2CUF

[mystic nest]

not sure how multiplayers systems work ngl

[lilac ginkgo]

gg wp

[mystic nest]

does teh host just control gamesped

holy lag

[snow rain]

Yes. Everone can pause the game, creating a 30s timer where only the host or the player that paused can unpause. After that timer everyone can unpause

[lilac ginkgo]

And yes the host controls gamespeed

[mystic nest]

ah aight

[fringe shell]

FUH

im gonna cry

gng

im still doing this fuh ass wc as haiti

and fuhing americans make me lose 22 mins of my life

[vocal bolt]

bro

why wont nations guarantee others wehn I need them to

but just do it constantlly when I try to expand

I generated 38% tension

yet they dont guarantee the people am fighting

[mystic nest]

haiti world conquest is insane lol

[snow rain]

That's a lot

[vocal bolt]

yet they still dont send out gurantees

thats what I want

[snow rain]

Perhaps there's not enough world tension globally or you're attacking fascist/communist countries

[vocal bolt]

ireland

45% global and am attacking ireland

[snow rain]

Who are you playing as?

[vocal bolt]

blackshirt route britain

I want to take out france too

[snow rain]

Well that settles it

France doesn't have pp early on to guarantee anything, us is coded not to until giant wakes and even then, I've never seen it

Only major AIs guarantee and only if they're democracies. NA, Fascist and commies don't guarantee

[vocal bolt]

I just watched someone do this tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igcGma2Nozs

[misty fossil]

Bro doesnt have the f word licence

[prisma saddle]

yes

[sly venture]

I am watching old saves of me on naval invading the uk as Germany and am doing everything fine idk how I can’t do it anymore

[crude schooner]

after gotterdamerung, uk started putting naval garrisons on the mainland

[sly venture]

I used to be able to do it with gotterdamerung

[rocky basin]

how do i win in the amazon? theres no supply here for both parties

[old acorn]

right side marines then put in amtracs with mobile arty and you can land in any ai province
if youre after like 1942 if youre before its still the same thing

[snow rain]

avoid it, buid supply and definitely don't throw in dozens of divs in a no supply area

[crude schooner]

naval invasion is your best option, otherwise get some transport aircraft and start getting supply from the air/build supply hub

[sly venture]

no you don’t understand

I can land and push but I don’t have guns nor supply

so the push is limited

[old acorn]

southern england has very high level ports if you are not being raided you should have supply for an entire army group

[sly venture]

but I don’t have guns

[old acorn]

in stockpile or in divisions?

[sly venture]

like I could not push this

[old acorn]

What templates you using? like those uk divisions seem fairly weak and you have a shitton of units

[old acorn]

and you have way less than what those ports can actually maintain

[sly venture]

am using aa sp because making planes is not something I can afford

and I don’t want to get cassed to death

[old acorn]

wdym

like literally the games most overpowered stupid shit is cas

and germany in singleplayer can basically do anything

thats the reason why you cant push

you have no cas

but im still beyond suprised why are those divisions not breakin through that

uk ai has decent planes probably you are getting cased to death thats my only guess

[sly venture]

idk I used to be able to literally overrun them

[snow rain]

stop attacking until you're stable and not getting attacked

no guns = no stats on your divs

[old acorn]

with those stats even at half org he should be able to push

[sly venture]

if I stop attacking they will counterattack

I tried it

[snow rain]

he doesn't have these stats

he doesn't have guns

[snow rain]

they are already doing it

wait them out, you can't push without guns because you can't push without stats

or emergency-delete some divs to fill the need

[sly venture]

my logistics are 100%

[old acorn]

what i meant is that even at like 50% org and equipment he should have enough stats to beat those those templates are so overkill for ai

[snow rain]

no he doesn't
states come from equipment, if he's missing guns, he's very likely to be using old ones with very low stats in whatever he has left

[sly venture]

Am using 1939 guns

[snow rain]

and org doesn't help pushing when there's a wall of divs in front of you because you can't out org them

[snow rain]

are your divs actually using it ? show us a division's equipment

[snow rain]

supply ? maybe, equipment definitely no

[timber laurel]

hey guys

[old acorn]

i didnt even question this based on the fact he has like 30 divisions max there

[timber laurel]

is there a mod that makes civil wars like

more interesitng

[old acorn]

with germany not being able to supply that many is beyond crazy

[sly venture]

this was another attempt I did yesterday

[timber laurel]

like if ur stability is too low and ur above 50% surrendr u can suffer a coup or

a civil war

[sly venture]

how do I check that

[old acorn]

you are being convoy raided your units are literally "encircled" there

[snow rain]

please, in all scenarios, NEVER 5 speed wars except when enemy's front is empty and ALWAYS adress the alerts at the top of the screen

and NEVER order attacks when you're getting pushed back

[sly venture]

I usually 5x speed but pause every 2 days

[old acorn]

wtf

[snow rain]

just 4 speed and pause when needed

[old acorn]

you take sp a bit too seriously

[snow rain]

5 speed means that if the enemy has a motorized division, which they do, they can literally break through, overrun an entire army and take 3 to 5 tiles before you can even realize what's going on and pause the game

[sly venture]

maybe I don’t have trucks?

[snow rain]

it's good advice. if you do one of these and don't know absolutely how to manage it, you're heading into the wall

[sly venture]

that is my guess

[old acorn]

youre doing something seriously wrong that we dont know what is cause if you use horses for supply and use the basic german templates the game gives you you can do this very easily

check what supply are your divisions using

[sly venture]

How do I check that

[old acorn]

my other guess is that those uk divisions are stupidly entrenched

[sly venture]

?

[old acorn]

press on the helmet

it shows it

[mild vapor]

What combat width are your divisons

[snow rain]

yeah show us this

[snow rain]

#hoi4-general message
not the issue

[mild vapor]

20 width is not good either lol

[snow rain]

the issue is almost certainly lack of equipment and attacking against wall of divs with too low stats (because of lack of equipment)

[snow rain]

if they were fully equipped it'd be fine

[sly venture]

omg I think my pc got fried

[snow rain]

not best, sure, but alright

[old acorn]

any width is fine in sp

literally anything

[snow rain]

except if they're getting CASed but idk how they would even have landed then

[mild vapor]

They have 46 air attack far above the max for CAS damage reduction

[valid thistle]

How do I win against Uk and USA in Africa bruh as Germany

[mild vapor]

The UK CAS would not matter

[valid thistle]

Italy ledgit sucks

[knotty vortex]

anybody able to help me play turkey?

[mild vapor]

Are you making tanks?

[knotty vortex]

idk what the strat to beating any nation is

[old acorn]

build ports in north africa and just make a fall back line around sudan

[mild vapor]

Elsewise 16 width mass mob spam + AIR

[old acorn]

after you took it

[sage isle]

Why TF is Britain useless. It's 1947 and they have 120 divisions just sitting in mainland uk, no dday ever happened

[valid thistle]

It’s supply issue

I can’t get to turburk

[old acorn]

just build like 2 ports it takes like 2 minutes

and youre done

for some reason they refuse to make the ai build stuff

that matters

[valid thistle]

What kind of port

There are already a port

[old acorn]

its in the supply category of building a big naval icon thing

just build one closer

they have a distance

[valid thistle]

Ah Alr

But taking Egypt weaken Uk yes?

[snow rain]

it still would
CAS is excessively powerful
but all that's assuming they actually have 44 air atk considering how underequipped the divs are

[dry kayak]

just for curiosity: how many hrs a world conquest game last for you at least with 4x speed?

[old acorn]

press the helmet

[old acorn]

a 5x is 40 minutes for me

[snow rain]

click on one of the div's icon
show use the equipment in it

[robust vale]

Shut. Up

[mild vapor]

Having 10.4 air attack in a divison literally reduces CAS damage by 75%

[valid thistle]

It does as a ally 😭

[snow rain]

depends on how much time you take to pause and on your hardware

[dry kayak]

wtf ahhaha

[old acorn]

also please scroll down

but its already concerning

[mild vapor]

This is also a supply issue not a CAS issue

[dry kayak]

i have a good rig and yes i have to pause a lot, a game for me in not-historic last at least 8hrs lol

[snow rain]

you took one of the best equipped one and even then :
you don't have any SPAA in them (1.1 air atk) so you don't have anything to counter CAS
you're using outdated equipment (1936 guns and arty), meaning you're using old stockpiles, the 1940 guns you're producing only filling out holes and not actually being mainstream in your units

right stats are the theory
left stats are the actual stats you have

that's why you can't push

and you're likely dying to enemy air

[dry kayak]

yeah, at beginning you have literally a couple of horses and almost 0 factories lol

[sage isle]

Seriously please I'm genuinely asking is this a bug? Britain just stopped functioning

[snow rain]

late gain UK just spends all its manpower on air

look at their airports

[sage isle]

I can't I'm not technically their ally, I'm in the comintern

[dry kayak]

classic

in an old game they made more than 10k air units

[snow rain]

look at their aircount in intel

[sage isle]

But they abandoned the North African campaign and gave it to the US which delayed the US ush in the pacific

[sage isle]

Oh yeah thousands and thousands of planes doing nothing

No ships in the Mediterranean

[snow rain]

yeah, that's classic uk behaviour due to how their AI is coded
they barely defend africa or italy's would just get stomped

[sage isle]

I know that but I think late game stops should get pulled

[snow rain]

all fuel going into air on useless missions

[sage isle]

Good lord

[snow rain]

save your game, then click exit to menu and look at their airforce score, it's probably monumental

[sage isle]

That's absurd. We're going to lose the whole war because Britain got upset and never initiated a landing

[dry kayak]

yep. that time i discovered that they had 2k of later planes while the others where interwar planes lol

[snow rain]

hoi4 is meant to end in jan 1947 iirc
and even then, the game basically stops at mid 1942 or 1943 if you stretch some focuses

[sage isle]

I know it's just annoying. They know how long it can go it should get extended out to 1950. Plus why can Britain shut down in like 43 and never do anything again?

[timber laurel]

just use mods to fix that

[sage isle]

They only do stuff between 41 and 42 other than DDay and if they fail even once they never do it again. Meanwhile the US pushes on slowly, which never wouldve happened. US wouldn't have continued if UK backed out

[sage isle]

Achievement run, I'm Iran. I changed nothing about the world

[gentle hemlock]

spanish bot

[sage isle]

Wtf is that😭

Paradox fix your AI

[marble rune]

Speaking of Britain, how can I go down absolute monarchy path but not have my dominions leave me

[snow rain]

what's the issue ?

oh these aren't supply lines

ahah

[dry kayak]

yep, i'm actually in 1956, i didnt make to take the world before due to tons of month wasted in taking those wastelands in asia. i'm doing the japs

[snow rain]

are you playing at 15fps ?

[sly venture]

i decided to make some planes

[sage isle]

No offense that's skill issue. I'm suffering an rng issue

[snow rain]

are they good planes ?

because bad air is worse than no air

[sage isle]

You need to use naval invasions for mass encirclements

Or you need better prep time

[marble rune]

I’m new to the game so that’s why I can’t fight properly

[marble rune]

Since

[dry kayak]

it's been a while since the last time, i'm playing very conservative lol

in ironman mode

[gentle hemlock]

he has naval invasion

[marble rune]

Was Finland and invaded Russia when Germany declared war and got smacked by the soviets so hard

[snow rain]

not nearly enough range and that module that reduces cost is gonna kill you$

[marble rune]

I’m only go at making troops

Good*

[snow rain]

air defence is one of the most important stats

[sage isle]

Fair fair, I just played Japan last time, I love it. The new system is so beyond fun and makes island hopping useful

[snow rain]

#ask-for-help-here message

some basic rules of plane design :

1 - If you're not using all the thrust, you're doing something horribly wrong
2 - small airframe = 1 engine, medium = 2 engine. Period. If you don't respect that, then you're doing something horribly wrong
3 - Air attack, range and air defence are to be maxed out in this order of priority from top to lesser
4 - Range should always be at a bare minimum of 800km (it isn't great to be clear), 1000 is what you want to aim for a good light airplane. There is never too much range to have
5 - Light fighters always out-trade against heavy fighters, except in the pacific (where heavy fighters win due to light fighters lacking range and not being able to use superior numbers). Heavy fighters are a almost always a waste in singleplayer
6 - Agility and speed are useful but not primordial
7 - Heavy MG are the gun to use before you get canons 2 (1944 tech)
8 - Electronics are always a waste, except for strat bomber meme

[sly venture]

?

[snow rain]

range range range

[sly venture]

which module

[snow rain]

800km is a bare minimum

[marble rune]

Well

Time to play as blugaria

[snow rain]

extra fuel tank is best because it allows to build this but drop tank is fine

[dry kayak]

the -20% night penality for fighters given by elctronics is useless?

[snow rain]

and use focke wolf MIO (Range is king)

[snow rain]

yup

[dry kayak]

dang

[snow rain]

because it takes a module slot, weight and ic which can be used for better stats from other modules

[dry kayak]

when this game give too much bonuses something is not good for sure ahahahha

[sly venture]

i forgot to reserach the range upgrades

i did now tho so its fine

[sage isle]

You do not need 3 bomb slots, or really an mg turret. You have fighters too right? If so get rid of the turret

[sly venture]

i added range upgrade instead of turret

[sage isle]

For the most part the auto design will do you wonders, then add drop tanks

That too

What you have right there is more of a medium sized cas, rather than a dive bomber CAS

[dry kayak]

i didnt read what they have changed? what's the difference now? i didnt notice anything during the game

all seems the same for invasion, i only loved the perk that boosts the naval invasion planning

anybody here manage to take all the europe with japs before 1940?

[sage isle]

The naval reformat, and they added all the new trees in the dlc

[dry kayak]

oh, i dont have the dlc

[sage isle]

Regardless, I mean the supply for navy actually makes it fun

As for the lack of dlc that actually does make Japan a lot harder. The dlc made tanks actually viable is the main thing

I almost never got china before the new stuff

Slog fest of hell

[sage isle]

Absolutely not lmao

[dry kayak]

i got china, but it takes a lot, like russian they just keep popping in single divisions everywhere and they packup tons of them in the north mountains

[dry kayak]

it's an achievement

[sage isle]

Oh good lord is it?

[dry kayak]

i did the one of italy that asks to nuke los angeles lol

[sage isle]

Never got that one either, my Italy always has a revolution before then because Mussolini is a timebomb

Getting to America is hard

[dry kayak]

i never had revolts in italy🤔

you have to remember to add some political power in a special bar where mussolini gains power

[sage isle]

Yeah but after awhile those events occur once a year

[dry kayak]

and do a few national focuses

[sage isle]

Idk it's been awhile

[dry kayak]

also this was fun hahah

[sage isle]

Ooh yeah I got that one and the Pope one

It's actually my favorite game I've ever played

Italy versus the world is absurdly fun and somehow not too hard or too easy

[dry kayak]

😂

[molten forge]

stupid question

so

[sage isle]

Yeah how do you do that one? Idek who gets bikes besides france

[molten forge]

should i use tanks as a chinese warlord lol

when i can of course

[sage isle]

Probably not, but it could be fun

[dry kayak]

you have to make the "bersaglieri" units

[sage isle]

Go on

[dry kayak]

you unlock them in a focus

[molten forge]

thats what am sayin

[sage isle]

So do it, why not lol

[glossy aspen]

tanks are fun to use

[sage isle]

Anybody have a good Iran run?

[molten forge]

i know, lowk still getting the basics like trucks and dont think am getting planes

[sage isle]

Trying to get some achievements but it's really fun until I actually join the world war.

[sage isle]

Ooh then maybe not

[dry kayak]

i saw that japs and chinese tanks are quite shitty lol

better to have air superiority and let the infantry do the job

[sage isle]

In my opinion planes are forever air superiority and cas. Never mediums, never heavies. Always attach to armies.its not the best ever, but God it makes things easier, and the cost of bigger isn't better

[knotty vortex]

how do i pacify ethiopia lol

i think i need to gain compliance

but how does one do that

[sage isle]

Follow the focuses

[patent thistle]

okay, i have been seeing italy do bad in ethiopia, but THIS bad?

[sage isle]

Yes

Very

[glossy aspen]

ive seen italy lose before

theres worse

[sage isle]

It happens, but that's gonna be a loss

[dry kayak]

if the AI doesnt bring down at least 1 and half stack of early units it can't take ethiopia

[sage isle]

For Italy follow bittersteels guide. Not necessarily to the letter, but he has a few guides and they're all helpful. Specifically how he deals with Ethiopia is always the same. Full effort

[molten forge]

gonna do it when i do the focus

[patent thistle]

i am playing portugal lol

[dry kayak]

i've mastered Italy and tbh it's very hard in not-historic to become a real main power

[knotty vortex]

how to pacify ethiopia guys

i dont wanna fail the mission

[molten forge]

i am training mountaneers as xibet san ma

[dry kayak]

if brits and france decide to make a coalition and attack in early game, you're basicaly done

[patent thistle]

i am pretty sure just create italian east africa

if that still works that is

[knotty vortex]

puppet?

[dry kayak]

mountaneers are always good

[molten forge]

i am stuck with 2x2 instead of 3x3 infantry tho

[knotty vortex]

idk how to do such

resistence is growing scarily

[sage isle]

Decisions

There's several Ethiopia decisions

[knotty vortex]

what do i wanna take here

i havent really dealt with garrisons much before

[sage isle]

Yes

You want them

Less manpower, they do a better job

[knotty vortex]

recruit them?

or the other

[dry kayak]

i loved to break them in like ten puppet states and let them develop efficiently the regions, you just keep build factories there in ordere to raise the control, then you absorb them in late game and make the italian east africa

[sage isle]

https://youtu.be/yNo7ZJaFrmk?si=Z2XrdZi4Nz30FHMB

Yes recruit them

Watch this

[patent thistle]

same

[sage isle]

Your eyes are better teachers than a million voices

[sage isle]

Agreed

[dry kayak]

they are good to keep the frontiers and they are cheap

[sage isle]

They have a higher compliance rate too

[knotty vortex]

50 minutes

god i have such a small attention span

[dry kayak]

keep on or two division of basic infantry produced with their "blueprint"

[sage isle]

Your campaign will take a couple hours minimum. Watch it while you play

Follow it like a guide. Don't have to do everything he does, but he has good advice

I always watch YouTube and play, good background

See what he does, see if you agree, etc. You'll only end up watching like 3 minutes at a time

[knotty vortex]

ive only got 1 monitor sadly

[dry kayak]

me playing at least hrs for a single game

[sage isle]

Throw it on your phone big dawg

Or make hoi borderless and throw the minimized video over top your gameplay. You can move it whenever it's in the way

[dry kayak]

And make Trains!! ahahha

[sage isle]

Game changer for those 70 day focused trust me lmao

[sage isle]

Generally just a good idea anyway

[dry kayak]

yeah, especially when i have to take those dam wastelands

[sage isle]

Ah yes. Just a couple hours. No more. Don't look at the clock

Remember you had the curtains drawn. You don't recall the sun setting and then rising behind you

[dry kayak]

i saw some videos of players doing like 10 clicks x second like AoEII

[knotty vortex]

building civs 🤢

[sage isle]

As I said opinion

[dry kayak]

if you play Italy bro you have a white canvas, that's the cool part

[sage isle]

I prefer mils

They're among the most fun in the game

[dry kayak]

and remember to beat france before 1939/40 so you can steal their navy in the peace conference

[sage isle]

Or do what I do. Conquer Germany

[dry kayak]

yep also

[sage isle]

Italy, yugo, Greece, turkey then Germany

Italian first tree for the win

[dry kayak]

but it always depends on what the diplomacy AI does

[sage isle]

Cowers before my superior mountaineers

But not my tanks

[dry kayak]

i had some really strange situation like switzerland annexing austria and provence without making a single war

[sage isle]

Oh yeah I saw that once

That was odd

[dry kayak]

or UK and France guaranteeing all your war justification targets lol

[sage isle]

Restart moment. When it happens early at least

Annoying asf

[dry kayak]

how only 10% of the players manage to drop a nuke?

[sage isle]

Cus nukes are boring tbh

Also Germany rarely gets them. Keep in mind hearts of iron was made for Germany alone originally

[lament plover]

I image not a lot of people play on ironman also nuke take a long time to get

[dry kayak]

true

those savescammers! ahahha

[sage isle]

also modders

just went back owb for abit. god its so good

[snow rain]

they didn't bother or didn't play this late

last time I dropped a nuke was years ago

for the thermonuclear bomb in land of fire or something

[dry kayak]

in my last game UK nuked half europe

[heavy vigil]

i do games where i send a lot of nukes

[snow rain]

also you need to play on vanilla ironman, which few people do

[dry kayak]

i wanted to try the Iron Curtain mod

is it good?

[snow rain]

real question is : is it updated ?

[sage isle]

Guys please look at this

I just opened the app😭

[snow rain]

they've gone down the project zomboid meme of awful screenshot

[sage isle]

I know hoi players are bad at screenshots but good lord

[dry kayak]

They are literally screenshooting lol

[lament plover]

Does that reddit have any more pixels ?

[molten forge]

does nationalist china have tanks?

if they didnt do any focus towards foreign investors

[sage isle]

nope

[molten forge]

i am trying to play warlord state, and using tanks

[heavy vigil]

why

[eternal aspen]

mfw africa

[heavy vigil]

hi astram

[eternal aspen]

this is with 9/2 as well

[eternal aspen]

wsg?

[heavy vigil]

need to read vic3 code cuz it pmo

[steel spear]

What country should I play next, I have no DLCs and im bored

[heavy vigil]

and then revise my strat for the 100th time

[heavy vigil]

have you tried like netherlands

[steel spear]

Yuh

Ill play it again

[heavy vigil]

what about france

or finland

or uhhh japan

or uhhhh italy

ig

[steel spear]

I main Finland🥹🤞

[heavy vigil]

finland is cool

ussr

uh poland has content

[molten forge]

cus yea

[heavy vigil]

china

other china

warlords

raj

[steel spear]

Truee

[heavy vigil]

australia

new zealand

[steel spear]

AIGHT I GOT ENOUGH SUGGESTIONS TY🥹❤️

[heavy vigil]

i think thats it?

usa

[steel spear]

Usa is lovely

[heavy vigil]

uhh canada

[sage isle]

do raj, east india is fun

[molten forge]

well i am tbf

xibet san ma

[heavy vigil]

you have mexico content i think?

i forgot

[knotty vortex]

lol

[molten forge]

mexico free i think

[eternal aspen]

based

[pure notch]

Axis vs allies MODS! (Road to 56) 90283589765741593 join mp 1

[eternal aspen]

i hate vic3 code sm

it's so jank

but so perfect at the same time

[heavy vigil]

i need to find why the ai attacks me

[mystic nest]

Inf only Germany working better than I expected

[woeful knoll]

Never playing on non historical again bro

[dry kayak]

give em supplieeess

[dry kayak]

now i urge to play italy and make a crusade federation and conquer the middle east with bikers divisions

[high mortar]

how do i disable a DLC

[dry kayak]

steam, select the game , properties and you have dlc tab

[high mortar]

nevermind i got it

i cant do it through steam though

[high mortar]

idk if i should say this or not but i bought no step back then decided to refund it because iw anted to play as another nation then it just let me keep the DLC and gave me my money back

[dry kayak]

right click on the game in the library, then properties

[high mortar]

so i cant disable it through steam

[woeful knoll]

buy the substrictipn bro

[dry kayak]

yeah, maybe is better to subs if you're not sure

[high mortar]

im good i dont want another one

[heavy vigil]

i need to finish this journal somehow

[high mortar]

plus if i dont want it i can refund it

if i do the DLC only and not subscritpion

(am poor)

now im gonna go play HOI4 again cuz i wanna take over the world as germany

[woeful knoll]

buy the 5 dollatr subscription for 5 bucks

for 1 month

anfd then quit hoi4

[high mortar]

for me its 8 dollars tho

[woeful knoll]

8 dollar 1 month

the nquit hoi4

[high mortar]

is the gotterdam one in it or whatever its called?

(i dont know because i am realativly new to HOI4)

(and never looked)

[sudden thistle]

It should be every dlc

[woeful knoll]

all

[high mortar]

ok well i will buy it once i get my refund for another game i refunded

cuz HOI4 my favorite game ever

[dry kayak]

bro, if you go cut the grass to some old man you get the money for at least 2 dlcs that you want lol

[high mortar]

bro i live in desert

well i mean desert ish

[dry kayak]

cut the sand!

[high mortar]

alright ill go cut the tiny sand and get 1 dollar for that!

[woeful knoll]

wtf is this bro

[high mortar]

the fuh

[dry kayak]

?

[viscid stirrup]

live footage of cells multiplying

[dry kayak]

that's how you play italy

puppet them and let them work for you lol

[high mortar]

i jst started my run and im gonna invade lativa, Lithuania, and estonia

hehe

[woeful knoll]

kier starmer finno-korean hyperwar

[high mortar]

how is it facist but theres no facist thing on there

(no facist precent thing)

(on the circle)

if anything it should be communist

[dry kayak]

reds are the new facists bro

[gentle hemlock]

prob bc no elcetion puppet or commnads/mods

[prisma saddle]

there is some way to make return the navy if i deleted it...?

[woeful knoll]

why would you delete your navuy

[prisma saddle]

missclick

i wnated to deleted one single ships that was hella slow and deleted all

[ember vine]

R||ew||o||rk||mania

[high mortar]

so i just started a new run is it a good chance i can win a war against lituwania

(i know i spelled it wrong)

[keen flame]

Can I bypass a Non agression pact?

[mystic nest]

Who are you playing as

[mystic nest]

Yes station as many troops on their border as possible

[keen flame]

How long does it take?

Nvm

Thanks

[vital cove]

its not that rare to happen

[high mortar]

germany

update: i took lithuania

[dim hazel]

LETS GO GUYS I LEARNED HOW TANKS WORK IN HOI4 IM AT 600 HOURS OF PLAYTIME WHOS PROUD OF ME 🥹

[lethal ether]

how to improve loading time 😢

[silk walrus]

Install hoi4 on an SSD, defragment drives

Not a lot you can do to improve hoi4 load speed other than actually speeding up your drive

[graceful kayak]

my tanks are stuck for some reasons.. are they defending against planes? they also got max rank for some reason

[soft escarp]

Why cant the German AI defeat the soviets?

[silk walrus]

Is the game paused?

[graceful kayak]

no

damaged tank model

[winged field]

Actually there is a chance but what happens is that they cant do it fast enough before the d day happens

They almost did it in my game

but they got d dayed later on

[wide osprey]

uh hmmm huh pretty historical 🙂

[graceful kayak]

thats a cool bug all the divisions get a shitload of exp for no reason, now i have to figure out how to get them out of there xd

[wide osprey]

imagine 54 tank divisions deployed in 1 city

[graceful kayak]

ye

[tulip cobalt]

yo is any1 down to play multiplayer i got by blood alone no step back and battle for the bospurus im bored

[mild musk]

Generals! @Hearts of Iron News ⚔️

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[wide osprey]

wat 😮

[mild musk]

new update ig

[graceful kayak]

a brazilian division got stuck with me xd

[grave sonnet]

Thanks Corporal Shepard

[mild musk]

thank you for thanking me

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-great-gatsby-jay-u4CY9BW4umAfu

[peak kelp]

france was gone, they are back now and I have 264 divisions stuck here, they keep winning battles in about a day but they never leave these 2 tiles, how do I fix this because if I cant I might end up dying

[grave sonnet]

I think it's done and dusted

Cuz ion think you can build a port

[wicked sentinel]

what is the better path for getting the mao achievement?

[grave sonnet]

While getting attacked

[grave sonnet]

Mao path

[wicked sentinel]

really??

[peak kelp]

they all just died, why were they winning but not taking the land?

[wicked sentinel]

the unwilling diarchy or the burn the paper tigers path

[grave sonnet]

They were winning because u had bigger numbers and the encirclement was hard to take by the AI probably

So they needed some time

But the green bubble doesn't necessarily mean Winning

In an encirclement atleast

[peak kelp]

even before I was encircled I was try to take spain and it wasnt moving at all

[grave sonnet]

They were reinforcing the tile every time you pushed probably

Either that or ur troops reached the line of the battle plan

[peak kelp]

also when I fought turkey all of the land I took went to italy, any idea why that happened?

[mellow spire]

I can't believe I defeated USSR and get cooked by Netherlands

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anger-angry-annoyed-annoy-gif-16295186275182485887

[cursive oxide]

can i get some help ? doing ussr for the fisrt time

[sudden thistle]

win

[mellow spire]

A ton of encirclement

And use panzers

Just encircle them and they fight Japan. Yo wipe the Eastern front off the map

[grave sonnet]

Helper role when?

[grave sonnet]

Cap

No way

[sudden thistle]

i applied year ago ish

forgot to resend

i will do it when i remember to

[grave sonnet]

They gotta accept

[sudden thistle]

i got denied because i said "freaky" too much

[mellow spire]

I don't know how tbh I left my comp on cuz I thought it auto win

I came back dead

[sudden thistle]

100% genuine btw

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[mellow spire]

I have like 100 divs on Netherlands border

[grave sonnet]

Ah makes sence ig

[safe wing]

Monarchist Germany or Kodha Japan?

[sudden thistle]

how many hours have u spent on german empire

[safe wing]

Too many so Kodha Japan it is

[cursive oxide]

wow

[safe wing]

Tank heavy Kohda Japan

[sudden thistle]

u need to be a bit more specific

[safe wing]

Because I’m primarily going to be fighting China and the USSR before going against the western nations

[sudden thistle]

other than "can i get some help"

[peak kelp]

how do I have 75 military factories making infantry equipment 60 of them at 135% efficiency and 15 at 118% but I still dont have enough infantry equipment

[cursive oxide]

when just join vc and help a niib out

[marble rune]

How can I become a absolute monarch in the uk without losing my dominions

[warm falcon]

you dont

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-that's-the-neat-part-you-don't-gif-14180388429135427516

[marble rune]

I thought there was a way

[mild vapor]

How many do you make a day

[warm falcon]

no

[fair horizon]

Efficiency caps out at 100 i thought? How many divs do you have

[safe wing]

Only as fascist or communist uk

[marble rune]

Damn

[mild vapor]

Incorrect

[marble rune]

But I don’t wanna decolonize

Since

[fair horizon]

Simply conquer them

[grave sonnet]

Communist UK is so ahh who even plays that 💔

[marble rune]

That what’s democratic uk does

[heavy vigil]

hello chat

[fair horizon]

Commie uk ❤️

[mild vapor]

The bar will only display to 100% but if you hover over the bar it will show over 100%

[fair horizon]

Omg casey hiii

[peak kelp]

1015 per day and right now I have only 23 divisions

[heavy vigil]

hru?

[grave sonnet]

My laptop gets fried when it begins decolonising

[grave sonnet]

Helo

[fair horizon]

I am good hbu

[mild vapor]

How many guns are you missing according to your logisitcs tab?

[heavy vigil]

this video game is trying to ragebait me

[marble rune]

Hmm

[fair horizon]

Vic?

[heavy vigil]

its the only game

[marble rune]

Do i decolonize if i go down democratic path

Or

[mild vapor]

No

[marble rune]

Oh ok then

[warm falcon]

as demo uk no

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[warm falcon]

you take them

[marble rune]

Hmm

[grave sonnet]

Dem & Fascist UK best paths

[marble rune]

Do I have to enter ww2 as democratic uk?

[heavy vigil]

chat am i allowed to cheat

[mild vapor]

No

[grave sonnet]

Yes ofc

[marble rune]

Ok

[near otter]

I do like a good fac uk run

[marble rune]

That’s better then

[fair horizon]

Is there even wars in that or is it just like trade simulator

[heavy vigil]

but then i wont have done it legitimately

[marble rune]

I’ll be democratic uk

[heavy vigil]

YES

wars are why im ragebaited

[marble rune]

Or maybe fascist

[grave sonnet]

True...

[marble rune]

Since

I don’t like commie uk

But

I don’t mind commie France

[heavy vigil]

ive been playing this for idk 200-300h and ive yet to conclude this, ive figured out how to do well as puppet, im now at the point of staying independent (did manage it once but lost to the JE)

[marble rune]

Screw it, commie France run

Also

[heavy vigil]

rn im getting killed by americans because whenever i make an army they attack, and so i waited a while and now its pain still

[finite plume]

I made the big lake in the Netherlands an ocean province

[marble rune]

I hate it every time I’m in axis

Italy joins

[grave sonnet]

Holy

200-300hours is frazy

Crazy*

[marble rune]

What’s this? https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/1097516572584706150

[fair horizon]

You're a monster

You better make the great lakes an ocean tile now

[torn rampart]

why cant

dude why cant I see other units

[grave sonnet]

Sadly it's lost...

[torn rampart]

and allied ones

[grave sonnet]

My friend I have had this same problem until I realised it was a game feature

[torn rampart]

how to fix it then?

[fair horizon]

Press M

[torn rampart]

ohh thanks

[fair horizon]

Casey is vic3 good? Should i get it?

[safe wing]

I got Hirohitos son I think

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-acceptable-gif-25806361

[fair horizon]

Navy is the most important btw, dont look at the stats just trust me blindly

[mild vapor]

That is Hirohito's younger brother. He was the second son of Emperor Taishō. The title "Sesshō" means regent in Japanese.

[marble rune]

Alright playing as Italy

[cursive oxide]

oke help pls i did a thing

[marble rune]

How can I become democratic without civil war

[marble rune]

What thing?

[cursive oxide]

election

[mild vapor]

Holding a referendum

[cursive oxide]

capped poland im at war with germany its end 1937

im ussr

[safe wing]

I see

[patent thistle]

PORTUGAL HOW THE FLYING FU-

[finite plume]

Edited the shape/size of the bay cause the base game one is hella chonky

[vital cove]

go democratic king

[grave sonnet]

Where's the part where you make 2581519 Provences ?

[keen parrot]

can someone pls check askforhelp 😭

[fair horizon]

?

[patent thistle]

they had 1 light cruiser and 27 destroyers

and 6 subs*

[fair horizon]

They usually have like 60 destroyers in my games

[late valley]

guys i acedientliy

formed the ussr

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

Later

[grave sonnet]

Hmm alr

[fair horizon]

Accidentally!?

[late valley]

yes

stalin is in my room rn

[fair horizon]

Bro accidentally disposed of the royal family 💀

[patent thistle]

gotta love the brazilian navy

[finite plume]

I made it even MORE narrow

[late valley]

oh ye thats where the smells coming from

[fair horizon]

Its so busted and yet also terrible at the same time

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/mewgenics-guillotina-mewgenics-guillotina-mewgenics-cat-mewgenics-kiity-gif-7320729331654257531

[patent thistle]

against the AI you can pretty much use everything

[fair horizon]

Yeah they just give you a bunch of slow garbage tho

[patent thistle]

especially now because these idiots dont even concentrate fleets

[fair horizon]

I hunt down enemy fleets with my navy now

Not even worth defending with them anymore

[patent thistle]

what actually does speed btw? only thing i have noticed is that they escape faster?

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[grave sonnet]

You clash royally don't you

[heavy vigil]

its hard

[patent thistle]

bro this guy is either a bot or has some serious dedication.

[grave sonnet]

Yeah...200-300 hours it's pretty obvious it's hard

[fair horizon]

casey why did you show me an eu4 screenshot

[heavy vigil]

is this winnable chat

[quartz swift]

Guys is there any video that u recommed where i can learn the basics of this game like how to use navy, air planes…

[heavy vigil]

i can get france/spain to join but they want me to be their puppet so

[fair horizon]

worth it probably

idr when the napoleonic wars happened

[sudden thistle]

i dont think casey has a sense of time

[heavy vigil]

i want to be independent

[heavy vigil]

i have to win once in my life tho

[grave sonnet]

Maybe

[vital cove]

do you need to like. cap the us to be independent or what

[heavy vigil]

read

[vital cove]

read what

[heavy vigil]

screenshot

[sudden thistle]

no

[fair horizon]

build light cruiser

[vital cove]

i don't read Portuguese amd there are too many details for me to understand whats going on from images

[sudden thistle]

just dont cap urself

[winged field]

guides are in pins in #ask-for-help-here

[sudden thistle]

just live long enough

[fair horizon]

wym? britian is asking to become the protector of hawaii

like with force i think

[heavy vigil]

ive gone back saves so now japan protects me and i trade more with france

hoping praying either the uk gives up on their plan or loses

[fair horizon]

you can defend it right?

[heavy vigil]

theres no micro

some wars are rng some wars are unwinnable

[warm falcon]

this game is ragebaiting af

[south mountain]

Hey, is 20% of mils for infantry equipment, 15% for support and arty and anti air, 30% for CAS and fighters, 15% for tanks and everything else for trucks good?

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[heavy vigil]

idk

its not rlly a percentage thing

you gotta have like 20-30 on inf stuff minimum

tanks are for when more IC than manpower

air is for when overwhelming IC

and you want to push that

also idk why youd do both AA and air

you either win or lose the air war

[south mountain]

AA is unnecessary?

[south mountain]

Thought it was required

[fickle thicket]

if u doin an air build

[south mountain]

Strange

[fickle thicket]

aa reduces cas damage to units

[south mountain]

I always gave AA to my units

[south mountain]

Also, I heard that tanks aren't good without air support, is that true in hoi4?

[fickle thicket]

yes

to an extent

[south mountain]

Also, should I use the Mechanized troops for the tank divs or the motorized(trucks)??

[fickle thicket]

if u can afford mech do it if not mot

[south mountain]

Do you play HOI4 with the BICE mod?

[errant monolith]

anyone want to play a mod with me?

I just need one person

@south mountain

[south mountain]

No, thank you.

[obsidian sigil]

I just overran 800k troops

Dunno why but my combat log is glitched tho

[winged field]

reload the save

or it might be bugged for the whole playthrough

[fair horizon]

Me as australia only needing 10 factories on guns because i only have 30 divs:

[fair horizon]

Ah so eu4 wars then

[fathom shard]

not if you have planes

the whole point of aa is to not have to build planes

[terse skiff]

Use inf if you can't afford mechs

But mechs can be super cheap if you spend 100xp to make it +5 production cost

[sudden thistle]

It’s helpful

I usually forgot to switch airzones anyway

[woeful knoll]

Why TF would you use infantry in tank divison

[sudden thistle]

It’s 1942 in a Japan game and my air is still in northern China

[woeful knoll]

Motorized infantry bro

[woeful knoll]

Just attach them bro

[sudden thistle]

No that system sucks

[terse skiff]

Because it's cheaper and better