hoi4-general

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[heavy vigil]

i dont action over messages in the past usually but youre seen

[heavy vigil]

chat

[limber jackal]

?

[heavy vigil]

im off to go read

[limber jackal]

read what

[heavy vigil]

dont do anything illegal, dont set the server on fire

be good

[limber jackal]

why do i have a feeling you're gonna read ao3 or sum

[heavy vigil]

first try

[limber jackal]

DAMN

[little panther]

dare i say, hoi4 player

[heavy vigil]

no its a book ive been trying to read for months

[toxic cypress]

when the mods go away

[little panther]

options were limited

[toxic cypress]

the russians appear

[limber jackal]

ooo what book

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-in-the-dark-looking-around-gif-9870053697138178701

[heavy vigil]

the fatal shore

[limber jackal]

sounds interesting

have fun

[junior ether]

what

[limber jackal]

man

i have to do some presentation for cs

and i got paired with the stupidest and most insufferable people in class 🥀

cos the teacher chose the groups

[junior ether]

Poland will feel it

[toxic cypress]

computer science?

[junior ether]

-# after i get the Netherlands

[toxic cypress]

or counter strike

[limber jackal]

computer science

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/counterstrike-cs-counterstrike-2-counterstrike-dance-cs-dance-gif-15201681022378425601

[limber jackal]

i like counter strike too

[crisp wyvern]

imagine doing a school presentation in cs

counter strike

[toxic cypress]

whats ur favourite skin

[limber jackal]

i dont have skins

[fair horizon]

chat china lost in early 38

[limber jackal]

im a casual player

[crisp wyvern]

I'll rather do a presentation using gmod if I had the chance

[limber jackal]

i just play it for fun

[toxic cypress]

oh alr

[crisp wyvern]

w

[limber jackal]

im alright tho

[toxic cypress]

i play cause im a gambling addict

also for fun

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-l4d2-left-for-dead-2-zombie-infected-gif-10866069616677634405

[toxic cypress]

fun being faceit rage

[limber jackal]

i can beat my friend who just sweats nonstop, plays premier, gambles and has 350 hours on this game

but thats like

1 time in every 4 times

honestly

[toxic cypress]

350 isnt sweat nonstop

there r freaks

[limber jackal]

no he sweats nonstop

not cause of his hours

[toxic cypress]

with 10k hours at 18

[limber jackal]

but cause he crashes out

if you do even the tiniest mistake

[toxic cypress]

i doubt he is that good at 350

[junior ether]

meanwhile me with 2100 hours in war thunder

[toxic cypress]

holy

get help bro

[little panther]

only 2100? 💀

[toxic cypress]

the snail is literally eating ur brain

[toxic cypress]

how old r u

[proud tapir]

OHL>>>>>Kaiser

[junior ether]

it's alright, a russian friend of mine has about 8k hours in dota

[little panther]

strange question to ask no?

[toxic cypress]

no

it links to this

[little panther]

ah

[grave sonnet]

OHL flag is peak

[little panther]

20

[toxic cypress]

10% of his whole life

[little panther]

been playing wt since i was 13-14

[toxic cypress]

on counter strike

[little panther]

i think i have like 7-8k hours on rocket league

which is bad

[toxic cypress]

there is a cs player

with 33% of his whole waking life

on cs

ks has 50k hours on cs

[little panther]

a pro cs player, gotta add that

[toxic cypress]

he is 26 bro

33% of his whole life awake

imagine everyday you spend 33% of your time awake on a game

thats him

[little panther]

i used to play warframe 18 hours a day

[proud tapir]

and leader/leaders

King,president, dictator? Nah, military high command

thats so sick

[junior ether]

been playing since i was 17

[toxic cypress]

uncs a addict

im only 17

[junior ether]

and now i'm also 20

[toxic cypress]

i got 2.2k hours on hoi4 1.1k on ck3 1k on vic3 1k on marvel rivals 1k on banerlord mtb and 400h on cs

[grave sonnet]

Military Junta's on top

[junior ether]

once played wt for 16 hours straight in order to catch up to an event

[toxic cypress]

also 500h on fallout

[little panther]

when i was unlocking my american tree i played for 36 hours straight

minus maybe a food break

[toxic cypress]

i have like 10 games with 100h

[proud tapir]

kcd2 so peak

[junior ether]

manor lords

holy based

[toxic cypress]

truth nuke

[toxic cypress]

top 5 beta stage games ive played

[heavy vigil]

general chat, looks inside, off topic

[fallen hearth]

i think i will just give my land to them i cant win

THEY HAVE WAR GOALS AGAINST ME NOW LMAO

LIBERIA IS AT WAR AGAINST ME WHAT THE HELL

[heavy vigil]

you could lose, genuinely

from just not having units in time

[fallen hearth]

they already took just a small part of my african colonies

i will lowkey just send my marines and see what happens

i just cant find out how can i make my ships to protect this place for a naval invasion

[fair horizon]

they're stationed somewhere else

[fallen hearth]

ohhh

ty gng

[iron iron]

Is their any way to make puppets the same colour as my country

[honest night]

You see that cog left of Kirk wall click it and make it turn Golden

[fair horizon]

i love naval invasions

i got an "early" dutch east indies from this

[plucky turtle]

hey guys

anyone here still playing HOI3?

[unkempt zodiac]

early dutch east indies is amazing

[fair horizon]

well its 1939 but im australia so eh

[heavy vigil]

where is this

[fair horizon]

balikpapan

[heavy vigil]

OH BORNEO

[unkempt zodiac]

the netherlands also has a crappy little province in the americas so if u play late game and dont wanna invade iceland its amazing

[heavy vigil]

im dumb

[heavy vigil]

did you civil war

[fair horizon]

no

[heavy vigil]

did you get the the invest victory

victory

victory investment

[fair horizon]

casey you saw my peru game

i cant do early wars

also yes i did

[heavy vigil]

its australia

[fair horizon]

and im bad at game

[heavy vigil]

you know australian terrain like the back of your hand

not just in game

[fair horizon]

ive fought in hoi4 like twice ever on the australian continent

ive fought on new guinea than australia mainland

[heavy vigil]

ive done it like

idk

10 times

[heavy vigil]

its called papua

lmao

theres like 20 places called guinea

[fair horizon]

i called in britian right which fought the dutch for me AND THEY GET MORE WAR SCORE FOR LIKE 2 DAYS OF FIGHTING?

SO THEY GET ALL THE OTHER STUFF BUT I CAN BARELY GET JAVA?

this game sucks

IM AT WAR WITH THE AUSTRIANS

ASDBFSADKJGBASEDRLKJGBVADSFHGADFSHADS

i hate this game

i hate this garbage tree

paradox is systematically destroying my favorite nation

[limber jackal]

god i got muted for an hour cause i said my friend called me an offensive word

"The commandments are changing and our food is getting lower, it's going to napoleon and the pigs" translating: "Glory to Mr. Jones, Frederick and Snowball. As I am speaking, I am conspiring with Mr Jones an attack on the windmill because he should return to power"

holy shit is this an animal farm reference

[fair horizon]

my horrible ugly cruisers

[limber jackal]

"i understand navy" translating: "i dont exist"

[fair horizon]

i didnt want to lower the piercing so i lowered the damage :)

[unkempt zodiac]

bro im ngl

dont get the armor

get more light attack

[fair horizon]

dont tell me how to navy

[unkempt zodiac]

cus you already are spending 4k IC cost on it

[fair horizon]

you just said the worst thing ever

piercing does double damage

[unkempt zodiac]

with 15 soft attack

[fair horizon]

actually it can do up to like 500%ish but w/e

yeah dw i plan on refitting them

[heavy vigil]

planes killed or something

[heavy vigil]

fight the uk

[limber jackal]

guys

[fair horizon]

eh i got java which is what i wanted so w/e

[limber jackal]

is bulgaria tuff

it's never had its flag captured in a battle or war

[fair horizon]

might take out malaysia

hehe green chile

[olive dagger]

u dicovered america

[heavy vigil]

are they free?

[olive dagger]

it does suck

but i still love it

currently tring to mod

[fair horizon]

no but their coalition is full of weak garbage states

[olive dagger]

extension dosent work

[heavy vigil]

if they are then use spies to spark a rebellion in singapore, its a funny way to get territory

[heavy vigil]

oh so they are free

[limber jackal]

average nonhistorical game

[olive dagger]

prtsc exsists

[fair horizon]

really free

[olive dagger]

or u have too big contrast

[limber jackal]

wait

is this just non historical

or a mod

[heavy vigil]

this is a pain btw

dont fight it

[fair horizon]

why not?

[heavy vigil]

youll have to cap trinidad and tobago

[unkempt zodiac]

how does early war on the netherlands work as germany bro, do you have to go into economy of conquest at 1936? doesnt it mess up your consumer goods like crazy

[fair horizon]

i can do that

[heavy vigil]

wdym

[fair horizon]

im still in the allies so free ports

[unkempt zodiac]

like

[heavy vigil]

are you asking if its good or what

[unkempt zodiac]

the decision

[heavy vigil]

like it sucks

[unkempt zodiac]

"rearmament has always been our goal"

puts u in

economy of conquest

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[unkempt zodiac]

and the other one is terrible

[heavy vigil]

yes

correct

[unkempt zodiac]

so how do you

do that as germany

does it only work with the

other

[heavy vigil]

why are you doing it?

[unkempt zodiac]

economy path

[unkempt zodiac]

im not

[heavy vigil]

you get crazy good refineries just make them

[unkempt zodiac]

its tht people do it

[heavy vigil]

your rubber will get raided/occupied if you do it

it only gives some ships for early sealion / early air production

it might be serviceable for short conquest games but like

thats it

[fair horizon]

victoria produces so much aluminum 🤤

[heavy vigil]

its not gonna help you make good planes or win the air war

[unkempt zodiac]

i mean

if you go prioritize economic growth

isnt it good

[heavy vigil]

ok ive lost all focus

[unkempt zodiac]

cus

you can just puppet

[heavy vigil]

then youll have to wait until like 1942 to get a better eco in the first place

lol

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah makes sense lol

[heavy vigil]

you can win historical ww2 by yhat date

that**

in game

[fair horizon]

thanks britian for making a new faction and having it kick me real classy

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil EY CASEY

wassup

[surreal mist]

because they're bad, and possibly a holdover from the pre-GDR days of insta-warring netherlands (which was also bad, but somehow became popular idk how)

[fair horizon]

NAVAL CAS DOESNT GET NAVAL PATROL?!!?

actual scam

casey i see why i was wrong to declare that war

but like singapore was right there

[sudden thistle]

Has bro never seen Lebanon

[fair horizon]

its fine tho i go invade trinidad now

[fair horizon]

bet you feel dumb now

[sudden thistle]

It was a joke 😭

[fair horizon]

bet i feel dumb now

[sudden thistle]

Oh how the turns have tabled

[unkempt zodiac]

guys

how often does italy capitulate ethiopia in 1936

[sudden thistle]

90% of the time

[unkempt zodiac]

bro how

literally every time i play germany italy is fighting ethiopia well into like 1942

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon time to reunify the empire (that stalemate mod)

lets start with the traitors in the sudetenland

[fair horizon]

bro i hate carrier cas even more and it has nothing to do with their effectiveness

[patent thistle]

??

[fair horizon]

NO NAVAL PATROL

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO INSTANTLY FIND ENEMY FLEETS?

[patent thistle]

spotting cruisers existing:

[fair horizon]

i dont play anyone that can afford multiple types of cruisers

[patent thistle]

then just refit some shit cruisers

[fair horizon]

i have no shit cruisers

im australia

[patent thistle]

this austria has a navy

nice

first the bohemian traitors that stole the sudetenland

[fair horizon]

are those the real austrian dreadnoughts?

[limpid zenith]

stronk

[fair horizon]

top 10 cursed hoi4 images: russian navy

[patent thistle]

oof communists in america-

this is the most anti american focus i have ever seen in a mod-

[steel zephyr]

luxembourg lasts longer than france 🌹

[patent thistle]

oh god damit the world is going commie

[patent thistle]

i think at this point everyone knows it

[fair horizon]

gl buddy

ah

i guess i give up borneo?

japan just declared on the entire world

[patent thistle]

next target

[fair horizon]

chat i just beat 27 countries

:)

i too have african colonies

MY PUPPET IS A MAJOR BUT IM NOT?

[patent thistle]

bulgaria about to get third partioned from the locks of it-

greece what the hell-

[fair horizon]

I almost have more factories than britian but im not cool enough to be a major

[patent thistle]

i will garantie you bulgaria dont worry

[steel zephyr]

🌹soon to hit england

my first historical germany

[limpid zenith]

almost 100 armor 💀

[plucky turtle]

why isnt there a hoi3 channel?

[patent thistle]

because some people dont run a good gaming PC?

[fair horizon]

shbb armor goes hard

[patent thistle]

especially in this economy damit

[sly sluice]

im tired of this game

cheating ai's

i pinned one of em down and he still moved to go defend

( he was the only one in the tile so no im not crazy)

[restive sable]

ive never completed a historical germany run

in my entire 1000 hours

[sudden thistle]

Ur divs can move if ur being attacked

[restive sable]

somehow

[sudden thistle]

If u mean that

[sly sluice]

well they can but only by retreating

and if he retreated

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon what are currently the RAM prices of 32 gb of ddr5 in the US? cause in germany its "only" like 300-500 bucks

[sly sluice]

the attack would've succeeded

but no

my guy was attacking an empty tile

and LOOSING

[sudden thistle]

I think a few thousand?

[fair horizon]

my marine div is so crap

[fair horizon]

not a clue, havent even looked tbh

[sudden thistle]

Wait I added a zero Woops

$360 ish

[patent thistle]

can you screenshot rq? obviously i cant look at american prices

[sly sluice]

i don't even know how to do proper elite divs

like

made for attack

[fair horizon]

corsair says 500-600

[sly sluice]

somehow they alwyas end up having trash atk stats

no matter what i do

[fair horizon]

well if i had more than 24 divs it would be easy to go full marines on there but eh

[patent thistle]

are they also good kits?

[sudden thistle]

No clue what that means

[fair horizon]

look how expensive this crap is now

[patent thistle]

MHZ speed rating

[sly sluice]

and the worst part is im trying my best to design them. i've even looked for what pro use and it seems pretty similar

[fair horizon]

@patent thistle no clue if its good or not but the first 2 stick 32g i found on corsair's website

[sly sluice]

mostly same width

[vocal bolt]

why cant I send images

[sly sluice]

and moslty same attck in the design

[steel zephyr]

and the brits... leave cairo open?

[fair horizon]

i was using 36w amtracs with 4 battalions being spgs

[sly sluice]

but when i actually do them. i have 50 atk instead of 250

and they're well suplied too

[patent thistle]

amazon still has these back stabbers RAM

[sly sluice]

i just don't get how that kind of things happen

like

i know there are tons of stuff that can affect my attack stats

and i try to fix as many of them as i can

but its still trash

[fair horizon]

so unless im missing something in combat are carrier cas referred to as naval bombers under the damage something takes?

[sly sluice]

i mean

unless its the terrain

[fair horizon]

carrier cas

ocean

naval battle

or do you mean like marines?

marines make sure theres a few capitals to support them or 90% of the time majors will swat them like a fly

[sly sluice]

aren’t carriers like useless as hell?

like

they are kinda usefull

[fair horizon]

carriers are the single best ship in the game right now

[sudden thistle]

Show a division u have

Can’t be that big of an issue for me to look at

[sly sluice]

i’ll do asap

also

i know how support stuff works

[patent thistle]

in my runs they usally acted a little difrent in that they targeted the carriers and the other capital ships a bit more then torp planes but that could also be just me

[sly sluice]

and i know what stat means what

[fair horizon]

yeah i worded that dumb

[sly sluice]

but i don’t really know how to use the right supports

[fair horizon]

when something takes damage or dies you can hover over it and see what did the damage

might lose my fleet but ima check on a real ship

[sly sluice]

AA and artillery is the only support i put on almost every design

[patent thistle]

i straight up never check that damage so idk-

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[sly sluice]

isn’t like 20~ planes per carrier overkill knowing how slow it is to build one?

[fair horizon]

not really

[sly sluice]

like

it feels underwhelming

and useless

[fair horizon]

i usually dont unless im testing stuff but unless they're under naval bombers they didnt even hit the convoys i was raiding

[sudden thistle]

Well 60-ish planes vs boats with no planes is really helpful

[sly sluice]

cause why should i bring 20 planes in when i could get a way more powerful boat and still get my planes in battle because the range they have is crazy?

[fair horizon]

because the boats arent more powerful

[patent thistle]

the key is building carriers with more hangers

[fair horizon]

the worst carrier you can build does 40

you can have 3 basic carriers that hold 80 each

[sly sluice]

well yeah but then its just unreliable

[fair horizon]

and they do more damage than real battleships you've put research into

[patent thistle]

you can release your inner japan/ USA and shit out carriers faster then you can say tomorrow

[tiny iris]

I hate when you are trying to start WW2 as Germany and then you accidently make NATO and become a guardian of democracy.

[steel zephyr]

sealion soon

[terse skiff]

It's much more reliable in battle cuz you can bring more naval bomberd

[sly sluice]

i mean. i get that planes are strong in those battles. i am just skeptical about the fact that the ennemy would let a battle near his coast happen without sending planes in

[sudden thistle]

This games AI is stupid

[fair horizon]

the med

[sudden thistle]

They don’t think that far

[fair horizon]

also it happened all the time in ww2

[sly sluice]

well i know but im not talking about ai here

im talking pvp

[fair horizon]

this is what i mean btw

[sly sluice]

the med?

[patent thistle]

i am guessing they are just counted as naval bombers in the damage calculations

[fair horizon]

yeah its this massive ocean seperating europe from africa if you've ever heard of it

[sly sluice]

like i wanna think carrier are good

[fair horizon]

well i do have a naval bomber on there

[sly sluice]

but as much as i can think

[sudden thistle]

U can’t really control the location of a battle

[fair horizon]

hard to test without fighting capitals

[patent thistle]

have you seen the enemy capitals?

[sudden thistle]

But most of the time both people have air up then

[sly sluice]

it feels basically useless to pay that much just to bring a couple bombers over

[sudden thistle]

So it evens out

[fair horizon]

not yet, was hoping to find a cruiser

[sly sluice]

you could quite literally just bring those planes straight from mainland

[patent thistle]

if you truely just want to test them you could tag over to japan and force a fleet into a region

[fair horizon]

not really? the range of planes during ww2 was far less than you think

[sly sluice]

i guess yeah. still the planes depend on your production

[fair horizon]

yeah but thats cheating

and i want to do my achievement

[sly sluice]

and if your prod is just higher on fighters

[patent thistle]

you are only testing something arent you?

[cedar lance]

for hoi4 i wanna build another 6.5k ships

[sly sluice]

then you’re probably gonna win the air war

[fair horizon]

well im trying for the australia hungary thing again and also testing them

[patent thistle]

couldnt know you are trying to get something

[fair horizon]

right

[sly sluice]

before i get jumped. keep in mind that im talking about overseas air fights

not on ground

where there’s like 50 ennemy divs with each 1aa support

[fair horizon]

so the one issue is that naval aircraft in battle arent actually in the sky either

as naval battles and air battles are entirely seperate

in hoi4

[sly sluice]

but can’t they be fked up by lets say. interception?

[cedar lance]

should i build another 6.5k ships

[fair horizon]

nope

[cedar lance]

nope what

[sly sluice]

huh

[fair horizon]

if you assign them jobs like this they can be but otherwise no they cant be affected

[hollow mulch]

Im sleepy

[sly sluice]

so basically they’re like in a bubble shield

[cedar lance]

should i or not?

[fair horizon]

what kind of ships?

[sly sluice]

that may be a good argument

[cedar lance]

ALL

[fair horizon]

no

[sly sluice]

i’ve always thought these were just straight up trash

[cedar lance]

why no

[fair horizon]

subs are ugly

[sly sluice]

and whenever i talked about it ppl would tell me that i was just stubborn

[fair horizon]

why? they do the most damage in a naval battle out of any kind of ship

[patent thistle]

the austrian navy here has 5 shitty subs its never gonna use lol

[fair horizon]

like if you use them for air support or cas they'll be nuked by real planes

[sly sluice]

but i just realised no one even gave me reason to think they were good

and you just did

[cedar lance]

if i were to produce tens hundreds to thousands of ships as USA

[fair horizon]

oh heres another one

it takes ships time to shoot the first shot

carriers attack the second the battle starts

[sly sluice]

yeah so equal battle can turn to you just cause your planes hit first

[fair horizon]

you can hurt their fleet bad in the alpha strike yes

[sly sluice]

alright

fk me

this is not hoi4 talk

but

in life in general people tell me im stubborn and i don’t hear what people say and im just locked in my own ideas and all that. but really most of the time its that what they’re saying doesn’t convince me

[fair horizon]

paradox fix this garbage pls

[sly sluice]

like when it comes to facts

[fair horizon]

i was very against destroyers for a while until carriers got buffed and now i build more destroyers than light cruisers

[sly sluice]

people trash on me for that but they don’t give the full explanation

like with what we just talked with carriers

if you didn’t tell me those 2 things i wouldn’t be convinced

[fair horizon]

my burmese puppet :(

[sly sluice]

oh the medeteranian

[fair horizon]

biblically accurate portugal

[fair horizon]

line arty is kinda bad also that div is small

[sly sluice]

thats the kind of things i'll have set up by maybe 1938 if i lock in

[sly sluice]

i mean i never get much elite troops to use anyway

[fair horizon]

mmm

[sly sluice]

using this i'll probably have

like

one or two

and thats it

divisions

[cedar lance]

hello

[sly sluice]

idk why you find em trash. they boost the soft attack by a lot and they're cheap

[fair horizon]

do these

[fair horizon]

they're 3 wide so you could fit more tanks in the combat width

and the tanks provide armor and soft attack

[sly sluice]

i don't really mess with tanks

they always end up being super weird

i know what all the stats mean

i just can't get myself to do them right

also they just seem to be faster to everyone around me

[sudden thistle]

Wait

[sly sluice]

like

[sudden thistle]

Check the pins for #ask-for-help-here

[sly sluice]

i see tanks dashing forward with 12KM/H while mines go like 8 to 9

with all speed upgrades

[fair horizon]

ngl im not a fan of carrier cas

[fair horizon]

speed isnt that important

[heavy vigil]

i went afk did anything blow up while i waa gone

[fair horizon]

im finding out i hate carrier cas

[heavy vigil]

I WAS BUSY

[fair horizon]

my poor fleet cant find anything

[terse skiff]

Because we figured out they suck. Check the video in pins in help channel

[sly sluice]

i mean yeah but i wonder how they just have better all round stats and still be faster

[heavy vigil]

bridge found over water

[cedar lance]

sorry casey

[sly sluice]

probably choice of parts and all that

[sly sluice]

hey casey:)

how you doin?

[heavy vigil]

no ily dw

[sly sluice]

which one?

[heavy vigil]

i have meds that make me feel a bit alive so i feel a bit alive

wbu

[cedar lance]

what

[sudden thistle]

Whichever u like ngl

[steel zephyr]

whjat a trade

[heavy vigil]

i appreciate and love you as a friend dont worry about like pissing me off ur cool beans awesome guy thumbs up

[sly sluice]

heh idk just had an existential crisis. can't do anything about it so i might aswell play hoi4 until the snail catches up

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[heavy vigil]

snail? gaijin?

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil take a look in #modding

theres a new mod

[sly sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/snail-dead-immortal-immortal-snail-feel-gif-26452934

[patent thistle]

one more traitor of the empire getting killed.

[fair horizon]

actually that sounds way more fun, im gonna go harass the snail (die to a mig 29)

[fair horizon]

restore the empire

[sly sluice]

that too but more like the meme

[patent thistle]

only need to finish hungary honestly

[heavy vigil]

it isnt the HOI4 MULTI MOD damn

[sly sluice]

but anyway

this server is really random

[cedar lance]

sorry casey

[sly sluice]

i got here because i had trouble with my elite divs because they're trash

[patent thistle]

good boy horthy you saved me a wargoal

[sly sluice]

and ended up on a argument about carriers

[heavy vigil]

have you tried making them better

[sly sluice]

thats why im here

[fair horizon]

chat is anyone else a fan of the f14?

[heavy vigil]

in gen chat?

[sly sluice]

the other guys told me to look at one specific video in help channel

[heavy vigil]

i want the iranian F14 but i dont have one of those gaijin accs

[sly sluice]

its supposedly pinned

[heavy vigil]

awesomesauce

it is in the pinneds

[fair horizon]

yeah its overrated

[sly sluice]

i know. and i feel blind cause i can't find it

[heavy vigil]

i dont want it for being good i just want it because im interested in that specific vehicle

[heavy vigil]

click the the threads from chemist

silly

[sly sluice]

F82 lighnting on top

[heavy vigil]

this is the main lineup i play with rn

[sly sluice]

searching***

still can't find

[patent thistle]

uhm, @fair horizon

[sly sluice]

told ya i was blind

[sly sluice]

how the turns have tabled

to be fair

[heavy vigil]

do i have to help

[fair horizon]

i dont even have it

[sly sluice]

yes very much needed

[heavy vigil]

#ask-for-help-here message

[sly sluice]

me neither

still my fav jet

[fair horizon]

oh grind america then because you can have the f4 which is a big beautiful brick

[heavy vigil]

im NOT playing them

[fair horizon]

y not

[heavy vigil]

dont want to

same for germany/ussr/france

[fair horizon]

casey hates american planes 😭

[heavy vigil]

oh and uk

[sly sluice]

oh THESE?? i've watched them

already

[heavy vigil]

awesome

so focus on those stats

[sly sluice]

well i'd like too

[fair horizon]

ngl ive been having a blast with this one

[sly sluice]

but i feel like my main problem rn

is that i don't use tanks

like

[heavy vigil]

make mils

[sly sluice]

at all

[heavy vigil]

use them as support

recon

whatever

tanks arent needed

[sly sluice]

i know

[heavy vigil]

special forces are your friend

[sly sluice]

but not massing with them for so long

messing*

it feels like i can't design them

when i know the stats

[heavy vigil]

click buttons

[sly sluice]

i just feel like i can't balance it to be efficient enough

i overspend

do expensive af

then regret

and they still not even that good

[cobalt sail]

Guys i am playing as china but i didn't see the reform army or smth like this, is that a dlc or i did smth wrong

[sly sluice]

goddamn i've understood how navy works before knowing how to balance tank divs properly

[cobalt sail]

I wanna remove the corruption

[fair horizon]

so you just play japan and italy?

[sly sluice]

design not divs

[heavy vigil]

china, benelux, hungary, and saf are cool with me

[sly sluice]

huh

there's ton of countries yk

[heavy vigil]

in wt

not that many

[sly sluice]

oh

well

hold on

benelux has planes?

[heavy vigil]

and ground too

[fair horizon]

yes

[sly sluice]

isn't it like

[fair horizon]

usually as sub trees

[sly sluice]

mostly premiums?

[fair horizon]

like hungary is in italy

[sly sluice]

the only benelux i've played

is the gladiator

[heavy vigil]

no

theres a whole tree

[sly sluice]

since when?

[heavy vigil]

idk

[sly sluice]

like

a tree of itself?

[sly sluice]

these english

[heavy vigil]

ground are a bit dire ngl

but theres vehicles

[sly sluice]

i mean yeah but they're not benelux originals

like

[heavy vigil]

ok?

so?

[fair horizon]

most countries dont produce their own equipment

[sly sluice]

its not that

its the fact that these aren't even from belgium

most of them are english planes with one or 2 small tweeks

[fair horizon]

same with hungary

used a lot of german designs

[sly sluice]

yeah

[fair horizon]

still hungarian

[sly sluice]

doesn't feel hungarian

i get that copying on your neighbour is easier

but its lame

[plucky turtle]

yes?

also i think it has its own unique fun gameplay specially with black ice mod

[winged field]

Csaba vehicle 🇭🇺🔥

[plucky turtle]

more detailed ,micro etc...

[winged field]

Although that one was also a copy if I remember correctly

[patent thistle]

i thought you were targeting people with bad grafics

some people love to do that

[sly sluice]

bad graphics is a win conditions in wt ground battles

[plucky turtle]

actually people who play hoi3 either have bad graphics or just like the game cuz it is fun actually

[plucky turtle]

do what?

[plucky turtle]

agreed

[patent thistle]

annoy people like me and some others if they post a screenshot with low grafic/ low resolution settings in hoi4

[sly sluice]

thats why i target them in that mode tbh. i just know they have unfair advandatage

and most of them also just prefer playing good over playing fun

[patent thistle]

some people also can just have a bad PC?

[sly sluice]

so yeah

just end them

[plucky turtle]

dont be a sophisticated aristocrat looking at peasentry life with discust bro

[sly sluice]

rendering grass on war thunder isn't that much

if you can play the game relativelly good

[patent thistle]

i am not that kind of person, i am litterally playing on a laptop with intergrated graphics

[sly sluice]

(60 fps or above)

you can def handle a bit of grass

[plucky turtle]

i have both options to play on low end graphics and super movie graphics with 180 fps and i like the second option more

i also play better on the second option and have more fun too

just disable grass in sight

[sly sluice]

nah

[plucky turtle]

yes

[plucky turtle]

lol me too

[plucky turtle]

why'

[sly sluice]

disabling grass is less immersive

evn tho its arguably worse for combat

but just playing to win is lame when the game is the most realistic warfare game of all time

[plucky turtle]

yes but others definietly do which gives unfair fight so the best option tbh is that the game just removes the option and make it forcefully enabled for all cuz it is called realistic for a reason

[bright ravine]

Hi chat

[plucky turtle]

do you have hoi3 then?

[plucky turtle]

hi

[bright ravine]

#ask-for-help-here message what is the reason?

[sly sluice]

or just make it accesible in arcade

[plucky turtle]

yeah makes sense

but not in realistic

[patent thistle]

nah my space on my SSD is full

[plucky turtle]

but i mean like u ever played it?

had it befoe

before

[sly sluice]

yeah like wdym grass and lack of vision is fully a part of how battles can go and you can just dissable it

[patent thistle]

played it once under a friends account

[plucky turtle]

exactly

[fringe shell]

im gonna kill myself BROO like WTF i saw "loading peace coference effect while soviets were at 99% so i though its about them but then i see "german REPUBLIC"

[plucky turtle]

just like how you cant disable clouds in air battles cuz they block vision

everything should stay as it is

[patent thistle]

final war till reunification

[plucky turtle]

check you DM

[toxic cypress]

i hope hungary wins

[plucky turtle]

nicee

[plucky turtle]

nope

albania is definitly gonna win

[vocal bolt]

is this W

should I go after the allies or go for soviets now

[tropic basin]

Soviet

[vocal bolt]

they seem piss easy to kill tho

[little ocean]

I have a question: how do I launch missiles when I specify the target area? For example, a country that isn't at war with me, but I still send missiles at it.

[vocal bolt]

they are already going down

so I wont have alot of participation

allies will get alot of soviet stuff and get stronger

[vocal bolt]

cant

need war for raid

[tropic basin]

Also reaserching missles is a waste in my opinion

I did it for a while and never won a single war

[astral forum]

Played Japan for the first time yesterday, idk how it is in the dlc but without it the hist focus path was dog easy, flattened China by Feb. 1939 with basically the total forces my puppets and I start the game with being under equipped bc of some unit conversion stuff.

[little ocean]

I have a question. I'm new to the game, but my army is very weak even though there are plenty of supplies.

[vocal bolt]

divisions

division template is very important

also cas

[astral forum]

Afaik they are like bombers, but weaker, much cheaper, and don't use manpower when you launch them so

[prisma saddle]

yo guys

difference between colony and occupied state?

[patent thistle]

it did not

[toxic cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/253739795900006401/1485527910122000384/2d82d901304ed14d0ea5d44c6d12dbac.gif

[prisma saddle]

dont be sad

[vocal bolt]

doing austria hungary ?

[patent thistle]

in a ww1 stalemate mod

[vocal bolt]

just did it today

italy mine too

[patent thistle]

.

[prisma saddle]

wow some tips for beat germany as austria?

[patent thistle]

@plucky turtle see what i was talking about earlier?

[fading pawn]

are there any DLCs you guys recommend buying or are they all garbage?

[wide osprey]

😟

[patent thistle]

.

[wide osprey]

i just saw this picture on reddit and remembered that a few minutes ago i also saw someone sent lowres picture on discord 😟

😟 😟 😟

[patent thistle]

no step back, by blood alone are for me some of the more imporant ones

stay way from battle for the bosporus, graveyard of empires and (mostly due to the little value it provides) the new Japan DLC

the rest are pretty much an open game

[fading pawn]

tybro

[lost falcon]

Hi there!

[knotty vortex]

how do i arm up to fight the ussr as finland

because i always struggle for manpower and just cant fend them off

[eternal shoal]

What do you think of my first game

[wide osprey]

bro's playing on phone

😟

[graceful kayak]

why do my divisions refuse to go to the frontline??

[craggy trail]

Not bad at all. I will say though that some division templates and your tank design could use some improvement

[eternal shoal]

my main screen broke so i am stuck with 1280 X 1024

[craggy trail]

It is your "careful" battle plan execution

[steel zephyr]

🥀

been bogged down on the coast for a few months now

[eternal shoal]

It feels so crowded on screen no wonder some of my divisions lack supplies

[graceful kayak]

oooooh ty

[ruby flame]

so much more excited for the Czech dlc than the other one, surprised we've seen nothing on it yet

[craggy trail]

This makes it so that your divisions position themselves to attack methodically with higher combat advantage, putting some divisions behind for supply consumption

[plush cave]

is there any way when you update your designers that it doesn't then create a new variant of all your production using that designer as it makes it way harder to organise all my designs?

[craggy trail]

As in using auto-upgrade?

[steel zephyr]

this is hell

[plush cave]

no no like with the aircraft or naval designers when i unlock like a new trait for them (+5 anti air for example) it makes a new variant of all my player made ship designs that use that naval designer meaning i have like 5 of the same ship design that are all the same just with tiny designer differences

[wet summit]

Germany (and USSR) lost before WW2 even started in none historical

[craggy trail]

I usually just keep my designs on auto upgrade. Not only is it very convenient, but it also saves you exp, especially with navy.

[sly sluice]

im pretty shure the reich has more sustenance and will win on the long run

unless the uk is involved

[steel zephyr]

finally break through by spamming cas

millions dead

its joeover

[craggy trail]

It's a lot less cluttering

[sly sluice]

why your game look like 2 times better then mine?

is it bcs of nighttime?

[knotty vortex]

guys

what do i even do

am i cooked

im waiting for that naval invasion from estonia

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[buoyant portal]

still manageable imo just wait for axis to declare war it's only gonna be like 1 more year.

[knotty vortex]

i dont know if i have a year bro...

[buoyant portal]

if you do not fully trust in your abilities, just call quits when the soviets ask for peace and wait for the continuation war

[knotty vortex]

its not that i just have no resources

all my civs are gone

so i have no trade

and manpower just non existent

[wet summit]

yeah they are fighting back now. It almost looked liek czech and france managed to cut it in half

[buoyant portal]

are you playing from 1939 or what?

[knotty vortex]

no 1936

[eternal shoal]

So if I put them on the 1 arrow order they will put just enough divisions to not lack supply?

[heavy vigil]

just have some port guards

[buoyant portal]

how do you have no manpower but are holding so badly as finland from 1936?

[heavy vigil]

also are you trying to hold all states or what

[heavy vigil]

finland is mega nerfed in this patch i dont think you get manpower out for much

[buoyant portal]

probably that, i have no played finland since 1.16 or smt

but i remember it not being really that hard to hold mannerheim and most of the south, just Petsamo falls easily

[knotty vortex]

dude play finland and genuinely try and get manpower

i havent seen a number over 10k

[buoyant portal]

what divisions are you using?

also did you expand navy and air a lot?

[knotty vortex]

didnt expand navy, tried expanding air force

[buoyant portal]

ah makes sense

[heavy vigil]

its tough unless you civil war because you cant get 5% recruitable

also mobilization speed got insanely nerfed

[knotty vortex]

this isnt the problem though since i only made this just before the war

as the starting template sucks

[heavy vigil]

your unit is fine

[buoyant portal]

isn't it too big for minors?

[heavy vigil]

id add field hospitals and ideally have some like rangers/mountaineers

[heavy vigil]

larger takes less losses so its better

small divs as minors get you killed

[buoyant portal]

i see

[craggy trail]

In some cases, no. You will have to motorize your supply lines or add logistics division to your tanks

[vocal bolt]

dont play austria

I did it with the chezchs

[knotty vortex]

how do you get rangers

[heavy vigil]

research and have NCNS

[knotty vortex]

i mean i kinda like these ratios

[knotty vortex]

oh okay

[buoyant portal]

i have not tried rangers, but they sound really good, at least in europe. Are they?

[vocal bolt]

what to do froom here I italy is my puppet btw am tryna annex them

[heavy vigil]

idk its your campaign

[steep rampart]

Invade soviets

[vocal bolt]

would it be better to get the soviets while they are fighting allies or just go for allies while they are fighting someone else

[vocal bolt]

they have been fighting for over a year now

ill prob get no participation

[heavy vigil]

if you want easy targets, poland, bulgaria, germany, benelux

[steel zephyr]

40 miniutes and over 2mil dead brits...

[steep rampart]

Just for fun, save Poland

[heavy vigil]

getting ussr while in a war will eliminate them possibly

but theyre not an easy target

[steep rampart]

Yo son, what’s the best light tank design

[heavy vigil]

idk i dont use lights besides recon

do you mean like

light self propelled arty or actual light

[knotty vortex]

let me cook...

[limber jackal]

son that is not cooking

[steep rampart]

I’m using France and using only light tanks, for now I’m only using the Renault ft with machine gun and flame variants

[knotty vortex]

it is for me

[limber jackal]

how many hrs

[heavy vigil]

dont make lights as france??

in sp you start with howitzers make like medium SPGs

[vocal bolt]

poland is pushing lmao

[steep rampart]

I’m using only light tanks, no infantry, except for some colonial brigades for Vietnam

[vocal bolt]

medium tank the goat

[steep rampart]

The indomitable polish spirit will prevail

[vocal bolt]

more like one billion morbillion allied naval landings

[heavy vigil]

idk what you expect from me that just sounds like youll lose

[turbid thorn]

why they dont move

[steep rampart]

I’m pushing into the Rhineland and winning so idk

[vocal bolt]

red sea

[turbid thorn]

o

[vocal bolt]

also I dont think 6 divs can do alot

[turbid thorn]

then how i gonna get uk

[vocal bolt]

blue sea

or paradrop

in that case green air

you need supremacy in either air or sea

otherwise its not happening

[turbid thorn]

and wha tshould i do against river

[vocal bolt]

river ?

english channel ?

[steep rampart]

Make 300 naval bombers and set them to naval strike it’ll destroy everything

[turbid thorn]

in battle

[steep rampart]

Yes

[vocal bolt]

what

but yeah

pump out a few ships and a shit ton of naval bombers

[patent thistle]

come, i dare you balkan pact.

[vocal bolt]

you will get naval supremacy in no time

[turbid thorn]

when u in battle its give 60 pet attACK

[vocal bolt]

they will get guaranteed

[patent thistle]

they are litterally the ones having a justification on bulgaria

[vocal bolt]

ah

[buoyant portal]

kaiserreich?

[steep rampart]

Is that in vanilla? Why is Serbia so small

[patent thistle]

no ww1 stalemate

[buoyant portal]

or the great war

[turbid thorn]

?

[buoyant portal]

never heard of it

[vocal bolt]

??

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3471602506&searchtext=frozen+war

[turbid thorn]

what should do against river

[lethal ether]

what

[amber matrix]

is this good for may 1938

[buoyant portal]

i asked for the mod

[patent thistle]

basically if ww1 ended in a stalemate

[lethal ether]

whats it about

[lethal ether]

oh

[steep rampart]

You should use any tanks you have to push further south and cut of their sea access

[vocal bolt]

which river

you can use rivers to set up defensive lines

[patent thistle]

please, for, the, love, of, god, organize your navy.

[vocal bolt]

fix everything

you got no supply

no oil

no resource

[amber matrix]

Im buying oil

[vocal bolt]

and I assume no manpower for garrison

[steep rampart]

Build railways

[amber matrix]

and im building railways

[amber matrix]

i have 1.5m manpower

[steep rampart]

Build more infantry

[vocal bolt]

how do you have high resistence

[lethal ether]

how is that any different from kaiserreich

[vocal bolt]

get mp researched

[lethal ether]

the map looks the same

[amber matrix]

because i just captured it

[patent thistle]

look at asia

[turbid thorn]

against when u in fight it give debuff

[amber matrix]

civilian oversight

[patent thistle]

look at russia

[steep rampart]

Always use brutal oppression

[vocal bolt]

is the entire south of your attack encircled

[lethal ether]

oh

[steep rampart]

Especially on china and never on Poland

[patent thistle]

also no austrian puppets

[vocal bolt]

its debuff when you attack

buff when you defend

set up lines behind big rivers

[patent thistle]

and no collapsed italy

[amber matrix]

No it was a naval invasion, and i just reached it with my tanks and encirlced like 10 chinese divs

[vocal bolt]

enemies cant attack that easily

[buoyant portal]

what even is the lore of the stalemate?

how'd it happen?

[vocal bolt]

I made it up

[lethal ether]

it would probably be something like paris got shelled, the uk lost the naval arms race etc

[patent thistle]

basically the threat of the soviets made the world react after the fall of the russian monarchy in the east i am pretty sure

[amber matrix]

i naval invaded and got a foothold in the south in 1937

[patent thistle]

idk myself that well

[buoyant portal]

i see

[patent thistle]

you actually gotta love playing japan in this mod

[steep rampart]

My computer takes like 45 minutes to load up a game up hoi4

[lethal ether]

can i see the focus tree

too lazy to download it and see it myself

[lethal ether]

15 here but thats still alot

[amber matrix]

Japans focus tree is so confusing imo, this is my first time actually playing japan so im just checking if im doing okay

[steep rampart]

What year is yours from, mines a 2013

[patent thistle]

eh its slightly expanded from the old japanese tree but let me remind you that this mod is barely done

austria doesnt even have content yet

i just played it because funny boat

[amber matrix]

❤️‍🩹

[patent thistle]

quite litterally funny boat

[buoyant portal]

how do you even find new mods that have quite a bit of content?

[lethal ether]

pc? its an rx6600, r5 3600 and i forgot the memory

16gb ddr4 nad i have no idea what for storage

[patent thistle]

i sometimes just randomly browse the workshop page

or see it on youtube

[buoyant portal]

any type of sort or filtre?

[steep rampart]

Mines an hp envy 27 touchscreen all in one pc monitor combo with a hybrid ssd hdd, and no graphics card

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-nope-tracy-morgan-spfi6nabVuq5y

[lethal ether]

from 2013??

[patent thistle]

do i have to say more (a laptop)

[steep rampart]

Yes

[patent thistle]

you do not get to complain

[steep rampart]

I don’t know these special words

[lethal ether]

i only have 1tb

and i have ap c

pc

[patent thistle]

i have 476 GB

[lethal ether]

i saw that

[steep rampart]

My keyboard buttons don’t have the stickers for the words anymore

[lethal ether]

but u got a laptop

[patent thistle]

i still have a CD drive btw on my laptop

feeling old yet?

[lethal ether]

having a cd drive isnt normal anymore?

omg what

[patent thistle]

usually not anymore

[lethal ether]

i hate laptops for the sole reason if u spill something on the keyboard its all over

where as for a pc u can just plug a new one it

[buoyant portal]

Is always engage actually useful in naval or does it just increase the chances of big battles?

[patent thistle]

mine can still replace the keyboard

[lethal ether]

your gaming buddy back in the day was jesus

[steep rampart]

If you want your main fleet to kill 10 convoys while trying to intercept the enemy fleet then it’s useful

[fair horizon]

well laptops are horrible garbage, neither convenient or portable as they once were

[patent thistle]

did i forget to meantion i still have an old charger port on it?