hoi4-general

[patent thistle]

spam go brr or battle paratroopers?

[quasi osprey]

bad divs bud the japs dont really guard their home island ussually so doesnt matter

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon all for the case of accuracy

[quasi osprey]

I think 80 infantry should hold of the japanese while I paratroop land in their country

[patent thistle]

they tried. but the shinano is just too angry to die (no archerfish in this universe anymore)

[trim lotus]

I am mildly offended that the Japanese fleet I am currently engaging has Kaga and Soryu.

There's a reason why Kaga sailed with Akagi and Soryu with Hiryu.

[quasi osprey]

will this be enough for the paratroop landings in japan?

[south mountain]

Tbh not worth it

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[south mountain]

I mean, sure.

But navy is more fun

[patent thistle]

first landing in seattle

[quasi osprey]

they are justifying on my puppet and I dont have time for a navy build up

[patent thistle]

same class i am pretty sure?

[trim lotus]

(Well, that, and Akagi/Kaga had plenty of experience working with each other, being commissioned at similar times, etc)

[molten forge]

btw without dlc which path for warlord states is better?

[south mountain]

In that case I do not recommend attacking since they will have 300 divisions on the island.

[patent thistle]

most of the time akagi and kaga are considered under the same class but i personally dont agree with that statement

[quasi osprey]

they have about 150 divs in total and they will probably try taking over me from mainland which will tie down most of their army

[south mountain]

Remember to be quick

[patent thistle]

wut-

[brittle stirrup]

if my friend doenst have all dlcs but i do can we play together

[quasi osprey]

I am feeling a bit sorry for japan

[tired crypt]

has thunder at our gates released yet

can i play as islamist indonesia

[patent thistle]

finally.

stealing the fleet because yes i definetly need MORE ships

i never invited you venezuela what the f-

SAME WITH YOU PERU WHAT-

[solemn flume]

they ain't gonna see this coming

[quasi sluice]

Hey guys is this the right place to ask for the DLC that I should buy?

[solemn flume]

gotterdamrung, so you can do shit like this

[quasi sluice]

I'm thinking of getting the game and the general edition is only like 2 euros more than the normal version so I wanted to get that

[quasi sluice]

what about no step back

[solemn flume]

all DLCs are important, really
they all add important game mechanics

[quasi sluice]

ik its a bad question

[patent thistle]

no step back and by blood alone should be the first priorities

[quasi sluice]

alright perfect thanks

we are in the steam winter sale right now right

uh spring sale i mean

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fallschirmjäger-segunda-guerra-mundial-ss-schutzstaffel-gif-25996398

[frail bolt]

Or
Maybe even la resistance

[quasi sluice]

i get that with the general editionj

[zenith charm]

cavalry bro what year is it

[patent thistle]

graveyards of empires, battle for the bosporus have been really silent since you said that

[quasi osprey]

1940

[patent thistle]

bro is trying to play the cosacks-

[zenith charm]

im divided between delete all cav already or use them while you still can to encircle troops

[patent thistle]

if you want to do encirclement speed memes build light tanks

[zenith charm]

i always go medium last time i did light tanks was before nsb

[patent thistle]

i meant with speedy encirclements

thats the only good lights still have after early 38

[zenith charm]

i havent played vanilla in ages now i only know poor modded countries and inf spam

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[cerulean aurora]

I have a question btw.

Is it worth to do Militia build as Japan, since you get unlimited militias (you keep the Japanese civil war templates)

[cedar lance]

cant wait to test out WOTP

[strong umbra]

w hoi4

[quasi osprey]

the japs cant stop the soviet war machine

[strong umbra]

oyouyou lose one stab but u also gain one stab

[safe wing]

EU4 reference

stability in EU4 goes -3 to +3

[quasi osprey]

encirclements yay

[strong umbra]

and which enemies?

[safe wing]

comets cause stability to drop unless your leader has the scientist trait

[strong umbra]

oh

[safe wing]

or unless you play as Zoroastrian Persia (really fun path would recommend 100% in EU4)

aka Eranshahr

[strong umbra]

i havent even made comets in

[quasi osprey]

bye bye japanese tanks

[strong umbra]

tho

i have made supersonic jets

but not comets

[safe wing]

Persia in EU4 is fun and overpowered compared to hoi4

like your guarenteed to become a major by the early 1500's

[strong umbra]

rocket engines has range

it only took 4 extra fuel tanks

plus its slower than axial jet engines

[quasi osprey]

regular soldiers destroying tanks I love hoi4

[fossil dragon]

10 air attack💀

[patent thistle]

i think thats fair treatment for the americans

[quasi osprey]

[patent thistle]

ye but also has barely any thrust

[patent thistle]

transylvania

[quasi osprey]

Oh right

but why does it says on me

[patent thistle]

because you have romania as a puppet dont you?

[quasi osprey]

yes but when japanese justified on commie china it said china not me

[patent thistle]

eh sometimes the justification warning thing is just wierd

sometimes it just shows it and it doesnt do shit

[south hemlock]

I’m just wondering, does anyone think that the cosmetic packs are worth the price?

[strong umbra]

definetly no bias at all

[weary lagoon]

One Trillion reichsmarks to Focke-Wulf RN

[cyan arrow]

If you got some spare bucks, yeah

[remote quarry]

because

let's say you are germany

you have romania in your faction

when soviet does the focus to demand state from romania, it can potentiall lead to war(as the code is written)

it won't ever lead to war in hist, but the game still give you the warning

[south mountain]

Should I send reinforcements to the USSR front?

[limber arrow]

Should i use 16 or 18 width divisions as china

[remote quarry]

just use your starting 12 width

[limber arrow]

Still in 1940?

[cyan arrow]

You can spam out divisions since you have like, unlimited manpower

[limber arrow]

Alright

[strong umbra]

this is the only time whete I've seen the event of soviet union breaks molotov ribbentrop pact

[cyan arrow]

If you want to, go for 18 tho

[strong umbra]

and also if soviet union captures warsaw it actually a different pic

idk what it is but it isnt 2 men standing next to a sign that says "Deutschland siegt an alle kanten"

[remote quarry]

well if you have killed japan you can get real divs

like make it 32 width

[strong umbra]

I prefer 37

36 I mean

but 32 is also pretty good

[cyan arrow]

I use a rather peculiar spg and infantry mix for my divs

Quite literally wins every battle in..

1-2 days

If not less

I one-tap stacks

[quasi osprey]

what have I created

[grave sonnet]

Since when does he have a trait

[quasi osprey]

idk

[grave sonnet]

Kim if he was starved

[quasi osprey]

how is this even possible I am literraly the soviet union💀

axis are probably still cooked

[spiral sphinx]

nah the allies are evil

[patent thistle]

ye but it should state "the soviet union is justifying against romania" not "against us"

[remote quarry]

well, paradox issue

if you are in the same faction

[patent thistle]

sometimes it works sometimes it just doesnt

[patent thistle]

make yourself ready for the allies to backstab you because you have iraq which the UK really, really, really, really, really, really wants

[cyan arrow]

Yall lets be honest

Who actually uses Armored Cars

[loud anchor]

true

only useful in WW1 mod

[cyan arrow]

Like if not for challenges they're quite literally useless

Low org

[vital cove]

I have had the game give me a warning for war goal justification when the uk was doing a focus that gave it wargoals on one of its puppets this shit is so stupid

[cyan arrow]

All of the strenght is lost in one day of battle

Low soft and hard attack

And much more

[vital cove]

i feel like consolidating your troops to a few normal divisions and then using the warlords troops as fodder line holders/coast guards work better

[prisma saddle]

uhm byzantine empire needs help

[cyan arrow]

Ngl you're cooked bro🥀

[cyan arrow]

#ask-for-help-here

Try

[loud anchor]

so. stop me if like one of the dlcs I didn't buy fixes this

but I feel like command power is weirdly implemented

I'm not saying 20 command power to launch a nuke is a bad idea, but it literally means that I can have 100 nukes and only be able to use like 6-16 in a conflict.

Like, is it really that hard to have a military say "ok kenny, get in the plane, fly hereish, you have a nuke, good luck"? After the first mediocre barrage everyone involved just sits around for nearly a month, just for 1 more nuke.

[loud anchor]

they'll invade russia soon if they're on historical maybe?

[cyan arrow]

Wait

You need

CP?

[loud anchor]

yeah

20 cp for 1 nuke

[cyan arrow]

Huh

Never realized

[loud anchor]

most I can get it typically 220 or so

[strong umbra]

is this good carrier?

[loud anchor]

I'd use the whacky army ideas to get more (that'd be enough) but now those are locked beyong blitzkrieg doctrine I think

[patent thistle]

oh dam i just realised i stole mongolia of the soviets

[loud anchor]

which focus pulled that off?

did they not join the war?

[cyan arrow]

What do carriers even do

[patent thistle]

some decisions? idk? first time playing japan since the new DLCs

[strong umbra]

is this good ship design?

[cyan arrow]

Like how do you use them

[patent thistle]

plane go BRR

[strong umbra]

for anti sub

[cyan arrow]

Ik what they are but

[strong umbra]

intercontinetal bombers are better than carriers

[woven dragon]

Carry Aircraft duh

[patent thistle]

all of these are on carriers rn for me

[cyan arrow]

@woven dragon

[loud anchor]

I honestly don't think carriers are that good for the worst reason
too much micro

[strong umbra]

well then

respectully

i will use a very profane word

that i cant use

[cyan arrow]

My entire knowledge about hoi4 ships is "High Number in roman numeral = good"

[loud anchor]

like, in multiplayer they're good

[cyan arrow]

And

"Destroyers and Heavy Ships good"

[woven dragon]

I had to relearn Navy

Still don’t fully get it

[patent thistle]

my 37 carriers would respectfully disagree

[cyan arrow]

I just see high numbers and say

Yesyes

Lowk

[loud anchor]

ughhhh
that sounds misreable
doesn't that also shoot your production because of the chromium and rubber

like, either their too expensive early game or it's late game and you've already won the naval war

[woven dragon]

I use convoy raiding and even with full control the Allies are able to still land

[loud anchor]

but
I am backing down here
I will actually try carriers next chance I get

[strong umbra]

thats a lot of cas dmg

[loud anchor]

did you have naval supremecy?
did you have air supremecy?
was it possible the allies just deployed a bigger fleet to the region later?

[prisma saddle]

i think i wiil make a romanian and bulgarian puppet as a buffer state all along the axis border next time so i can have all my 48+ divisions near themacedonia-albanian border and with bunkers i should likey not make them pass and farm casualties and ofc some ports divions

[loud anchor]

well hold on

[loud anchor]

build up Constantinople and wait for the axis to invade the SU - they look like they're on historical

maybe build up the approach to athens as well

[patent thistle]

carriers are worthless late war to produce,
as for early game, carriers are cheaper then battleships over time

[prisma saddle]

yea they will

[loud anchor]

over time?

[crisp wyvern]

guys guys

Rate this Perú bolivia

Ignore paraguay

[prisma saddle]

wait wiat the stopped pushing

[woven dragon]

Naval Supremacy, Air is yellow

[strong umbra]

guys guys

[crisp wyvern]

look guys look

https://tenor.com/view/prototype-prototype1-prototype2-kick-funny-gif-6112351842702887289

[strong umbra]

rate this germany

[loud anchor]

see!
you were getting green bubbles so they were burning though more manpower and equipment than you were too

[patent thistle]

a good early battleship can cost more then a carrier at the beginning

[loud anchor]

0/10 how can I flee to argentina if there's no argentina

[patent thistle]

and carriers give more naval supremacy

[loud anchor]

doesn't that just mean the carrier is cheaper over all then?
over time implies it's some kind of investment that'll pay itself back
like if battlesships used civs or something

[crisp wyvern]

which Europe is better?

[strong umbra]

is this a good 1938 plane design for the fight against britain as italy?

[patent thistle]

ye but if you get to improved carriers if you just spam decks on them they do get quite expensive (my taiho carrier for compairing)

[strong umbra]

thats quite expensive

[prisma saddle]

thats nice

[loud anchor]

@patent thistle what countries are in a position that carriers are great for?
something like britiain?

[patent thistle]

japan, USA, UK

maybe germany and italy if you really want to push it

[heavy vigil]

thats a german plane, you dont get supersonics in 38, and it has double engine which is bad

[patent thistle]

double engines are never worth it on small planes, the whole purpose of small planes is to be cheaper then mediums

[strong umbra]

is this a good destroyer as britain to prevent convoy raiding in like 40

[patent thistle]

the gun and anti air arent worth it if you solely want it to prevent sub raiding

same with torps

[strong umbra]

is this a good light cruiser design?

[patent thistle]

a very big light cruiser for sure

[vital cove]

not enough heavy attack kinda trash

also way too cheap

you want CLs to be at least 45k ic

[strong umbra]

is this a nice budget friendly medium tank design?

[patent thistle]

guys, a very serious question, whats harder in battle for seelow heights, germany or japan?

[sudden thistle]

Japan I think

[vital cove]

Germany is not that hard

[sudden thistle]

I think u can hold some stuff near Hamburg and just win

[vital cove]

requires micro at the start, but then you can kill the uk for free

[patent thistle]

i would like to kindly disagree, japan still has a fleet

[vital cove]

they have nothing in the uk

then you cap france

[strong umbra]

is this a good early game light tank design?

[vital cove]

then you can buildup to kill the soviets

[patent thistle]

too much relability if you ask people here

[vital cove]

we got the point you can stop trolling it stopped being funny after the third time

[strong umbra]

its a genuine question

[acoustic python]

bros tank not gonna make it to the frontlines

[patent thistle]

fr it will break down before it reaches the front

[acoustic python]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[vital cove]

[strong umbra]

oh u havent seen the 0 reliability land cruiser yet

[vital cove]

0 rel lanc cruiser used to not matter

because you couldn't attrition a single equipment

but they changed it

[heavy vigil]

fleet is useless without fuel

[strong umbra]

after im done researching my tech i will make a land cruiser

[heavy vigil]

i mean holding initially as japan has to be easier

but winning vs allies prob isnt

[patent thistle]

you still get to trade with the soviets unlike with germany

[heavy vigil]

optimistic

soviets should attack you too

according to history

[patent thistle]

just make sure you got a high opinion with stalin and ask for a renewal of the non agression pact

[vital cove]

there's some oil in Indonesia isn't there

[patent thistle]

they usually for some god forsaken reason accept it

[heavy vigil]

yes thats why japan attacked it

[patent thistle]

that will get raided to hell and back before it reaches you

[vital cove]

yea and they still controlled it at the end of the war

[heavy vigil]

nah

you use plane

[heavy vigil]

not with divisions

very lightly guarded lol

japan actually used paratroopers irl on indonesia

to invade and try out the tech

[vital cove]

enough to send them fuel

[patent thistle]

it barely was controlled by japanese troops lol it was mostly controlled at that point by indonesian collaberator units

[patent thistle]

the second you get one naval invasion there good luck

[heavy vigil]

in game its like impossible to hold onto

another issue is having to recapture the route so you can use plane vs subs

[vital cove]

the ai doesn't naval invade in seelow heights tho maybe it doesn't just in Europe

[heavy vigil]

and another issue is that when germany dies you will be under immense pressure

and immense raiding

[patent thistle]

it does fairly often actually

[heavy vigil]

pre german death its like fine

afterwards its really bad

[vital cove]

in Europe it never does

[patent thistle]

in asia they do

[woven gate]

make anti-sub destroyers

[strong umbra]

how do i use nukes from airplanes?

[heavy vigil]

might play some hearts of iron IV

[patent thistle]

easier then said when your economy does no longer exist

[heavy vigil]

thats what you should do if you want to lose

destroyers use significantly more fuel than planes and have less effect against subs

they will chase subs eating fuel, then need to spot before going into a battle where they try to kill subs

naval bombers dont necessarily need this battle

you just also need fighters up for detection

or the bombers are useless

[echo gyro]

i bought this game yesterday and was lost, watched some tutorials and played for hours and im still lost. im addicted. send help

[heavy vigil]

chat give a nation to play

[strong umbra]

rate my land cruiser design

[patent thistle]

what i like to do in seelow heights japan is first finish the few carriers in construction, refit the battleships, and then go ham on the americans, they for some reason rarely bring anything anything of a fleet

[heavy vigil]

i should play sheeps mod into endsieg japan

thats fun

[patent thistle]

💀

[heavy vigil]

sheep used to post some saves of ai vs ai

and there were some japan disasters

it was fun

[strong umbra]

ya know what i cant afford this

[echo gyro]

do it for the lols

[vital cove]

iraq

[rigid pollen]

I was today years old when I learned that just building railways to the provinces with no supply doesn’t give them supply, it’s only from the hubs

[quiet vessel]

guys is this a good idea for my romania mod? on the fascist path im thinking either axis or make own faction, then in three mutually exclusive focuses. one that can only be done if u create ur own faction about romanian balkan domination. puppets that give basically everythhg (puppets will have focus trees). then a path in the middle more about taking less land but coring it (eg demanding) and third is about helping barabarossa, coring some black sea and help germany (and also stopping hungary and bulgaria taking ur lands cus germany loves you). is this good? any ideas??

[heavy vigil]

what fun is there to be had

hmm

i was tempted to do like world vs me 1937 but idk how viable that is as iraq

tbh it prob isnt that bad but like

fun

[molten forge]

is it bad am using japan to get parts of china (dlcless yunnan)

[south mountain]

HOI4 late game is so unfun

[south mountain]

The allies have 20 divisions per tile

[heavy vigil]

its a decent strat

[south mountain]

And 5k planes

[heavy vigil]

encirclement galore

[molten forge]

lowk i messed up and the chinese caught me off gaurd

and am dead nice

thats what i get for messing up

[echo gyro]

guys be real how long will it be before i have the slightest clue wtf im doing on this game

[molten forge]

i got about

300 hours

got a clue what am doing but not at the yunnan dominating asia level

[echo gyro]

fahhhhhh

[molten forge]

tbf yunnan is like the worst warlord bro

[south mountain]

Also, I think Navy is not that hard

[molten forge]

i started lowk understanding it a bit

[echo gyro]

i picked USA and sat around for ages doing nothing, watched germany pile-drive the ussr and couldnt figure out how to send my troops to the war lmao

[south mountain]

Navy is easier than anything else.

[molten forge]

brotha just play demo germany

[heavy vigil]

its not

[molten forge]

idk the name of the one near china

[south mountain]

You just need to set it right and it automatically wins

[heavy vigil]

yunnan is one of the strongest warlords highkey

[molten forge]

shanxi

[molten forge]

dlcless?

[burnt pike]

tokyo is the worstp layer ever . guy got capped by swiss militia troops, and french 2 width horses, couldnt beat ethiopia. dont ever let him play with you

[south mountain]

Isn't it Shanxi?

[molten forge]

yea

[heavy vigil]

kumul khanate or khotan ma

[south mountain]

Like it is one of the weakest in the game.

[burnt pike]

your trash kid

[south mountain]

I have no DLC.

Never heard of these

[molten forge]

i have battle for the bosphorus

ngl time to attempt spain again

[heavy vigil]

without dlc its xibei san ma

[vital cove]

form Arabia as Kurdistan

[molten forge]

ngl any spain advice

[strong umbra]

how do i still not have that germany achievement for owning all your former colonies

i own basically the world

except china

but i have tsingtao

[heavy vigil]

speedrunning civil war

[vital cove]

🔥

[molten forge]

any advice for spain civil war

[heavy vigil]

highkey cursed

[vital cove]

yeah happened to me too

i also had on the same game Lithuanian civil war be between Poland to lithuania, while the actual Poland existed alongside it with a different ideology

this was also funny

[heavy vigil]

what are my odds of winning

[vital cove]

looks doable

[heavy vigil]

i still have my airforce if it changes the equation

[vital cove]

what are factions like

[vital cove]

oh

[heavy vigil]

hist ai so nothing bad should happen but spain will explode

[vital cove]

its Ragnarok?

[heavy vigil]

updated

[vital cove]

well you're not winning this but you could hold out

[heavy vigil]

different mod so it isnt germany focused and no buffs

[cerulean aurora]

Militia (people’s army) build for Japan?

Commie Japan has access to limitless militias. But can’t add them to template (which is ASS)

[vital cove]

that makes it a whole lot easier

[heavy vigil]

also i have double commando

camo expert

kinda goated

[vital cove]

huge

what happened to kumul khanate

why is a small bit of sinkiang in the allies but its not the correct shape

[heavy vigil]

at war prob

xinjiang against everyone on their border

its tough

[vital cove]

lmao

watch them hold because no supply

[heavy vigil]

am i too ambitious

[vital cove]

yes

i see divisions not with attrition

ggs

[heavy vigil]

i believe in the strenght of the kurdish people

[vital cove]

🔥

[heavy vigil]

+35% rn no doctrines besides gbp pick

im gonna get the 2 cav spawn in and go communist for manpower and doctrine

[frank parcel]

Which foccus to become Fascist nationalist spain?

[strong umbra]

both

middle is his

left is ahis

[frank parcel]

?

i cant take both

Which one is the best

[vital cove]

one is for Spanish empire. the other is for nationalist spain

the spanish empire will have you fight 4 side civil war

[strong umbra]

no no no no no

[molten forge]

any nation you think would be fun (i only have battle for the bosphorus dlc)

[strong umbra]

maybe anarchist dont rise up

[frank parcel]

I want to do the achievement of conquering Paris before the Germans, Which is best for that?

[strong umbra]

gotterdammerung

[molten forge]

nation man not dlc

[vital cove]

Spain ig?

[molten forge]

that sucked

[frank parcel]

Remove the S

[strong umbra]

Spain no

[molten forge]

ima be honest that sucked asf

[strong umbra]

Spain is la resistance

[vital cove]

hmm
im not familiar with the default focus trees without dlc

so idk

[molten forge]

i have that as well

[strong umbra]

battle for bosphorus is only Bulgaria Greece turkey

[molten forge]

i have le resistance and bosphorus

[strong umbra]

of those 3 Bulgaria is the best

[vital cove]

probably the right one

[strong umbra]

I would go anarchist spain

they have law giving +70 percent factory output

[molten forge]

and spain has been a pain in the ass (dont ask why i went communism the first time ever)

[vital cove]

(they always do)

[molten forge]

lowk ima play poland

[vital cove]

I have never seen the anarchists don't rise up

[strong umbra]

as in after u defeat republicans

u can delay it forever

with the decision

they have to rise up yes

[vital cove]

oh, you mean that
yea but idt most people are doing that

[strong umbra]

they dont have to rise up at any specific time

[molten forge]

or nvm

[strong umbra]

if ur going for id recommen going ahis ai

[molten forge]

ik

[strong umbra]

all other germany paths are way less aggressive

[molten forge]

played demo germany

[heavy vigil]

theyre not attacking this is chill

[strong umbra]

hell naw

[molten forge]

wanna see the end result (its eye bleeder)

[heavy vigil]

ok im bored

[strong umbra]

then play anarchist spain and core the world

or go falangist and core the americas

[molten forge]

wanna try demo germany yourself

[strong umbra]

hell naw

[heavy vigil]

that sounds almost interesting

[strong umbra]

what do u even do

[molten forge]

kill soviets

[strong umbra]

there's a focus for thay

[strong umbra]

but Spain is not fun

theyre focus tree is quite small

[molten forge]

its more challanging ig since you dont get lands before attacking soviet

[strong umbra]

yes I said they are focus tree

[molten forge]

i forgot is yugo the boring one?

or romania

[strong umbra]

could also try a Bulgarian patriarchy world conquest

[molten forge]

like no wars

[strong umbra]

u get insane compliance buff

[molten forge]

yoo, so like

ima play hungary

fascist or austro?

[strong umbra]

uh its Bulgaria not Hungary

[molten forge]

ik

[graceful kayak]

does ethiopia have a timer or why did i loose here ? https://medal.tv/de/games/hearts-of-iron-iv/clips/mi4ZfUW5MJ6ibQD34?invite=cr-MSx5Qm0sMjE2MDI0MzUy&v=19

[strong umbra]

also without gotterdammerung hun focus tree is butcheeks

[molten forge]

am saying ima play hungary

[molten forge]

ima try see communism (am feeling red today)

[strong umbra]

u most likely lost a national spirits giving you surrender limit increase

thats the most plausible reason

[molten forge]

do you think besides USSR theres a nation where communism is worth it?

[snow rain]

war support went down 30%, making you cap

you either did a focus or something happened with the escalation mechnic

[graceful kayak]

ah i see

[snow rain]

by the way, NEVER give up Harar

[graceful kayak]

thanks

[snow rain]

it's the only supply hub in the area

[molten forge]

yoo so like, any nation worth playing commie

[strong umbra]

uh

[molten forge]

besides majors and USSR since thats obvious

[strong umbra]

czechoslovakia

thats the best path for them

[snow rain]

sov

[strong umbra]

but they arent fun

[strong umbra]

broski

[strong umbra]

.

[graceful kayak]

do you think its worth building a bunker there or trade steel instead?

[snow rain]

what do you want me to say ? I'm mainly a MP player, not a singleplayer schizo alt hist path player (no offense)

[molten forge]

i usually do fascist and make germany go demo

[raven lava]

Is Mengkukuo the strongest country in the game yet

[snow rain]

don't build forts, they'll get bombed

[molten forge]

am playing hist

[graceful kayak]

aight

[heavy vigil]

yes you have missions in your balance of power

[snow rain]

there's 2 countries with historical communist paths

[heavy vigil]

you lost because you let it tick

[molten forge]

ooog

[heavy vigil]

ethiopia isnt easy and you cant 5 speed it

[strong umbra]

hey what about Mongolia and tannu tuva

[woven gate]

that's why you build AA as well

[strong umbra]

and shanxi

I believe

idk

before ncns they were definitely commie

[snow rain]

you can't afford it

just build mils

[woven gate]

what country we talking about

[snow rain]

no focus tree

they don't exist

[strong umbra]

shanxi

cxp

ccp

[snow rain]

ethiopia

[snow rain]

already counted in

[woven gate]

yeah forts aren't gonna do anything

you need guns

[molten forge]

do you think fascist chezc is better if germany goes alt hist?

than commie checz

[snow rain]

no reason to do fascit checz like ever

[woven gate]

czechoslovakia can be INSANELY strong no matter what path

[molten forge]

i mean i get a free poland and hungary but alr

[snow rain]

if you want to do althist stuff as checz just go communist, better buffs

[heavy vigil]

iran ussr prc baltics depending on if you consider SSR path hist and sinkiang

[snow rain]

that start as communist

[robust vale]

Is there a czech path where you can full annex and core New Zealand for the Czechmate achievement

[strong umbra]

what is better tsar or fascist

[heavy vigil]

sinkiang prc ussr

3

[strong umbra]

cuz i want compliance buff

[robust vale]

Tsar cuz Monarchism >>>>>>>

[molten forge]

fascist

[snow rain]

sinkiang is the same as any warlord, basically no focus tree imo

[vapid bough]

there's 34 divisions in Nationalist Spain in my game rn
only 9 of those are actually Spanish, the rest are volunteers

[molten forge]

lowk ima ban democracy in my nation

[snow rain]

I am highly dubious

[heavy vigil]

i should play ethiopia again

fun nation

[molten forge]

wb belgian congo

[heavy vigil]

no war

[strong umbra]

dubious mentioned

[snow rain]

most likely there are a few volunteers sprinkled everywhere and the simplified UI (individual flags turned off) makes it looks like it's all volunteers

[strong umbra]

dubious loyalty trait

[molten forge]

go civil

[heavy vigil]

civil wars are easy

[molten forge]

then suffer against all superpowers

[heavy vigil]

thats also not particularly hard because youre a supply island

[molten forge]

cool romania gave me freedom of armament

[vapid bough]

9 Spanish
9 Portuguese (me)
8 German
8 Italian

[molten forge]

what like nation with focus tree do you guys think is the weakest in europe

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-joseph-gif-19266305

[snow rain]

turn on frontline unit color (flag at bottom right)

[quasi osprey]

Lets hope the germans dont have many paratroopers

[strong umbra]

estonia

[molten forge]

makes sense, tbf uniting the baltics is quite easy and nice

[quasi osprey]

not really

[strong umbra]

fair

iceland?

[vital cove]

the ai doesn't really do that

[molten forge]

idk the paths

does it somehow get a war?

[strong umbra]

me neither

[vital cove]

not that its worth to build forts but

[strong umbra]

idk

[molten forge]

like maybe a war with denmark for independence?

[vapid bough]

Both Germany and Italy left to go to war with each other
apparently Austria was the child in the custody dispute

[quasi osprey]

[vapid bough]

its just me and the Nationalists now

[strong umbra]

that says greater lithuania

[quasi osprey]

if lithuania can do this estonia can as well

[snow rain]

wdym, each AI that has tac bombers strat bomb for no reason ?

or maybe italian AI is hardcoded not to bomb it ?

[quasi osprey]

I had the same cores as estonia can get

[vital cove]

Poland Czechoslovakia Romania Yugoslavia Bulgaria
its historical just a little bit early clueless

[molten forge]

5% recruitable pop fine ig

[heavy vigil]

nah

CAS nerf might make macalle hold viable again yay yipee

[molten forge]

is switz weak military wise if with dlcs?

or is switz strong if it stops its neutrality?

[vital cove]

it doesn't usually bomb forts

[strong umbra]

which path is better for ultra aggresive bulgaria

[south mountain]

I think it doesn't matter that much if I am not wrong.

[strong umbra]

k

[molten forge]

yoo yk a tank template for kingdom of hungary

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

if u mean early game hungary

what r u doing

i suggest just flame tanks but thats it

anything more

[molten forge]

am dlcless

[toxic cypress]

ur not gonna produce any amount

that matters

[heavy vigil]

its so wholesome

[molten forge]

yea i ended up just doing calvary

[toxic cypress]

why r u playing ethiopia

[molten forge]

and soldiers of course

[toxic cypress]

whats wrong with u casey

[south mountain]

Can you play Ethiopia and win in BICE?

[toxic cypress]

did smt happen

[heavy vigil]

its one of my fav countries

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

top 10 worse focus tree nations

[heavy vigil]

its fun

[toxic cypress]

it would be top 5 but goe happened

[toxic cypress]

its hell

u get beaten up by any real power

you take hella long

to core anything

[molten forge]

wb latvia

[toxic cypress]

or get industry

[south mountain]

Is Ethiopia playable in BICE?

[toxic cypress]

latvia is strong

[heavy vigil]

yes

[toxic cypress]

good cores

[molten forge]

switz?

[toxic cypress]

high recruitable pp

[toxic cypress]

top 10 worse

[heavy vigil]

thats because you dont stack your buffs

[molten forge]

i guess them baltic states toghether stronk

[south mountain]

Historical switzerland is AWESOME

[south mountain]

Do the historical path

[prisma saddle]

BYZANTINEE

[toxic cypress]

no joke

[molten forge]

got no dlc

[toxic cypress]

lithuania is legit

one of the strongst countries

in the game

[molten forge]

ik even dlcless i almost got polish lithuania

[south mountain]

If you get the dlc remember historical Switzerland is the best

[toxic cypress]

like lithuania

[weak magnet]

How can he handle 240 divisions

[toxic cypress]

its op

[molten forge]

wb hungary dlc and dlcless?

[south mountain]

I recommend you the RT56 mod

Gives a focus tree to everyone

[toxic cypress]

hungary is good but

[molten forge]

i already play it

[toxic cypress]

it is hard in historical

[snow rain]

optimization is the only real path

[molten forge]

i just love having the normal focus trees, its more satisfying to practice

[vocal bolt]

why is my german tree weird

[molten forge]

alt hist going commie rn

[molten forge]

bigger or smaller?

[toxic cypress]

ooo worst choice

[vocal bolt]

the histrocial path is updated to götter dlc

[south mountain]

You can play Kaiserreich, the mod.

[foggy cedar]

does anyone know how do i fix error 3221225775

[snow rain]

alwyas put all equipment at high price
AI doesn't ditinguish between prices

[toxic cypress]

best hungary path if monarchist

[molten forge]

dlcless

[vocal bolt]

kaiser route is still old

[molten forge]

am bored

[toxic cypress]

this is a old run

[weak magnet]

buy the game

[snow rain]

good tip still

[toxic cypress]

and i was selling em cause i had too many

[foggy cedar]

i already did from steam bro

[toxic cypress]

didnt need it

[south mountain]

Play the kaiserreich mod

I recommend

[molten forge]

alr

[south mountain]

Very fun mod.

[weak magnet]

install vc++ redistributables from microsoft site

[molten forge]

tbf i play mods as well

but i need main game practice

[foggy cedar]

i already did

still doesnt work

[toxic cypress]

anyway no run beats vatican empire

[molten forge]

stuff like navy and shi

[south mountain]

Kaiserreich is basically "What if germany won ww1"

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/pope-francis-blessing-gif-1481704290608981441

[molten forge]

ooooo

[weak magnet]

do you have mods

[toxic cypress]

if u play vatican u literally have god on your side

[foggy cedar]

no

[toxic cypress]

your tanks magically get completed 75% of the way

[foggy cedar]

i bought the base

[toxic cypress]

like -25% production for heavy tanks

[weak magnet]

i mean germany 1940 would overrun the papal states in 3 days

[toxic cypress]

god is giving you 1 tank every 3 tanks u make

oh wow wait

trinity

[foggy cedar]

i didnt buy any mods

[toxic cypress]

3 tanks make 1 tank

[weak magnet]

not dlc

mod

[foggy cedar]

but it did say dlcss

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471

[foggy cedar]

I said i didnt buy any mods bro

[toxic cypress]

ur a noob

1940 germany ai

[foggy cedar]

only the base game

[weak magnet]

bro u dont buy mods

[toxic cypress]

sucks

literally

[weak magnet]

u buy dlc

i mean mods like game mods

[weak magnet]

would overrun the papal states is what i mean

[foggy cedar]

yes i have some dlcs but no mods

[toxic cypress]

r u new to the game

[weak magnet]

no

[toxic cypress]

the ai is horribly trash

[weak magnet]

who said anything about ai

are you new to the game?

[toxic cypress]

player papal states italy will always beat germany

[weak magnet]

what

[strong umbra]

should i try to make an airforce as bulgaria?

or give up on it

[toxic cypress]

u know u cant get papal states well after 1940 btw

[foggy cedar]

are the dlcs mods or what

[weak magnet]

no make anti air

[toxic cypress]

what r u even saying

[weak magnet]

no bro that is what ur saying

dlcs are dlcs u buy

mods are mods u install from workshop

from steam

they are free and player made

[foggy cedar]

so i bought the base game

[weak magnet]

i assume u have none then, try verify integrity of game files from steam

[weak magnet]

yes

that is why 1940 germany

[foggy cedar]

i already did

like 10 times

[toxic cypress]

no like well after 1940

its quite late game formable

and also no

if u do monarchist path properly

u can min max 45% non core

[foggy cedar]

it verified the files but it didnt fix my issue

[toxic cypress]

take any piece of india or china and just shit out

millions of troops

[foggy cedar]

i still cant play the game

i have the launcher and game but i cant play it

[weak magnet]

did u try start without launcherf

[foggy cedar]

i did

[weak magnet]

also theres this channel maybe they be better #tech-support

oh u sent there already

[foggy cedar]

i did

[weak magnet]

i assume just wait then

[foggy cedar]

no response

[toxic cypress]

you get mods here

[foggy cedar]

bro i installed ALL the stuff they asked for

i restarted my pc 4 times

i verified the games files 10 times

yet nothing worked

[toxic cypress]

for?

[foggy cedar]

c++ and .net framework

[toxic cypress]

no

[vocal bolt]

am I cooked

[toxic cypress]

like what r u tryna do

[tulip thorn]

no mods are stuff you get on the workshop

[heavy vigil]

bloat mod

[foggy cedar]

play the game

[vocal bolt]

1940 I still havent declared war on anyone as german empire

[toxic cypress]

ok whats the problem

[tulip thorn]

completely free

[toxic cypress]

wait

[toxic cypress]

whats ur pc specs

hoi4 is badly optimised

it does take alot

to start

[tulip thorn]

Really any cpu from the last 8 years can run it

[toxic cypress]

yeah not everyone has one doe

[heavy vigil]

not as bad as vic3

[tulip thorn]

And it works fine on integrated graphics

[toxic cypress]

he could be using super old laptop

[tulip thorn]

Ouch

[toxic cypress]

alot of people use super old laptops and try to play this game

[foggy cedar]

my first gpu is nvidia geforce rtx 3050 and the other gpu is amd radeon 740M

[tulip thorn]

Cpu

[toxic cypress]

whats ur cpu

gpu isnt important

[tulip thorn]

If I had to guess its some I5

[toxic cypress]

this game is very cpu reliant

[foggy cedar]

amd ryzen 7 something

7000

[toxic cypress]

that shld be enough

[tulip thorn]

Check task manager

[toxic cypress]

any ryzen 7

for sure

[weak magnet]

this not cpu problem

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

[toxic cypress]

ok i think all these people havent suggested this one

go to ur file explorr

and just manually

[foggy cedar]

ryzen 7 7445hs

[toxic cypress]

delete everything

verifying game files

[foggy cedar]

ok imma just

[toxic cypress]

often doesnt catch

hell problems

just delete manually the game files

[foggy cedar]

uninstall the game and launcher

[toxic cypress]

not via steam

[foggy cedar]

and install it again

[toxic cypress]

not via steam

force delete

[foggy cedar]

yes im gonna do that

[weak magnet]

which redistributables did you install

[foggy cedar]

x64 and x86

[weak magnet]

hm

maybe try reinstall from steam

go steam -> steamapps -> common -> steamworks shared -> common redist -> vcredist -> latest year

[foggy cedar]

do i gotta pay for it again when i reinstall it

[weak magnet]

no

[foggy cedar]

ok bett

[weak magnet]

u didnt try reinstall it?

[toxic cypress]

ngl

i never had problems

launching hoi4

[heavy vigil]

this game is BAD

[toxic cypress]

and ive played it on xbox and steam for almost 5 years

[weak magnet]

ur lucky bc theres no worse company than paradox

with regards to these shenanigans

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-cd-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-eggman-dr-eggman-gif-6513385627739669387

[heavy vigil]

not doing this run because reinforce rate is BAD

[jaunty delta]

Paradox is genuinely ass fr

[toxic cypress]

paradox is so bad

people just mod their games

[jaunty delta]

im sure some of the devs are talented but guys what the F are you doing lol

[toxic cypress]

to fix it

(imperator)

[foggy cedar]

whats even the point of these c++ bullshit and framework

[toxic cypress]

(vic3 in the past)

[vital cove]

just ls

[weak magnet]

its important

[jaunty delta]

who greenlit the last 2 DLCS

[toxic cypress]

facts

[foggy cedar]

then why isnt the game seeing that i HAVE them

[toxic cypress]

goe killed the game

[weak magnet]

why are you shouting at me bro

I hope the UK guarantees everyone when you play

[foggy cedar]

whats the uk gotta do

[heavy vigil]

units wouldnt reinforce im actually ending it all

[foggy cedar]

in this situation

[heavy vigil]

god forbid one wants to hold macalle

[weak magnet]

did u reinstall

[quasi osprey]

it has been several weeks since the germans declared on me and they havent even taken a single tile

[foggy cedar]

ye im gonna launch it

[vital cove]

should've picked sfp and added signal smh

[heavy vigil]

haafr wanna know some absolutely criminal devious game design

[vital cove]

what?

[heavy vigil]

doing the fascist collab path takes longer than exile path and gives absolutely no buffs to survive

as eth

[vital cove]

[heavy vigil]

and also murders your mil high command that gives xp

[molten forge]

so my dumbass though that intervention in chezh meant the same as the intervention in poland where i get war goal

[vital cove]

i usually see the ai succeed in the fascist collab path tho

I've seen every variation of the name multiple times

[heavy vigil]

because ai takes 5 million years to cap ethiopia

[foggy cedar]

it still doesnt work

[vital cove]

yea

[foggy cedar]

i still see the damn error

[heavy vigil]

its actually pretty hard as player

because ai is fine with torpedoing their future army

[vital cove]

holding is pretty easy tbh

like

just fall hack

back

[heavy vigil]

but macalle

[vital cove]

sit outside their supply range

ggs

[heavy vigil]

if you hold back from macalle youve lost in my eyes

[vital cove]

lmao

[heavy vigil]

like wdym the north gets pushed 3+ tiles

unacceptable

[foggy cedar]

bro how the hell do i play the game

[molten forge]

since when does desperate defense need a defensive war

[heavy vigil]

1.17.4

[vital cove]

you lose one whole building slot

game over

[heavy vigil]

no its bad cuz they annex aussa

if you hold it they dont

[foggy cedar]

i already installed EVERYTHING what does it want now

[foggy cedar]

what c++ or ,net version does it even want

[vital cove]

true

[weak magnet]

Do you have it on steam

[vital cove]

i should try aussa

[foggy cedar]

i just reinstalled it

[vital cove]

never played it

[weak magnet]

You might be a part of the dump scheme happening

[heavy vigil]

aussa is like ethiopia but easy

and stronger

[foggy cedar]

oh my god bro I INSTALLED EVERYTHING and the launcher still doesnt process anything

[heavy vigil]

not including scaling

ethiopia can get crazy scaling

infinite compliance, best tank MIO and second best inf tank MIO

renault and mystychi

or however you spell it

really goated

[weak magnet]

yeah dump scheme confirmed

[prisma saddle]

fire

[foggy cedar]

Whats this scheme

[vital cove]

is half my focus tree just locked behind being Italian puppet 💀

that sucks

i see nothing in their focus tree

[quasi osprey]

as soviets my army is twice as small as the german one and I dont have any manpower💀

[heavy vigil]

no

that side is bad

[quasi osprey]

am I cooked

[vital cove]

it has my fourth research slot

is irregular or militia better

[vapid bough]

im tired boss...
-unknown wehrmacht soldier

[trail gazelle]

how on earth do i play this game

[heavy vigil]

four is a lot

irregular more hp

[quasi osprey]

through joy and torture mostly just torture though

[heavy vigil]

militia might be able to be edited idk

[trail gazelle]

why do my troops literally start dying when i try to do the training thing

why is there SO much

[opaque zinc]

It’s organization

Don’t train them in combat and it won’t matter

That’s supposed to happen

[trail gazelle]

wdym

[opaque zinc]

Basically what goes down is the organization

[trail gazelle]

Oh

[opaque zinc]

When you train your troops

Training is good

[trail gazelle]

They arent training in combat

i just started

no war

[opaque zinc]

Yeah don’t train them in combat and you’re fine

[quasi osprey]

💀 💀 💀

[trail gazelle]

but they go like 💀 whenever i try to make them train

like this

[quasi osprey]

maybe you have an equipment deficit

[opaque zinc]

Yeah you don’t have enough equipment

[quasi osprey]

training costs equipment

[trail gazelle]

how am i supposed to know how much equipment i need

[opaque zinc]

The orange bar below the green bar is the strength bar

I think

[opaque zinc]

Go to logistics

[quasi osprey]

yes

[quasi osprey]

why is this happening

[opaque zinc]

The life of a rk

[quasi osprey]

wdym 'rk'

[opaque zinc]

The German puppets

They have long names

[quasi osprey]

oh

[opaque zinc]

Reichkome something

[quasi osprey]

reichscommisariats and reichsprotectorates

[opaque zinc]

Yea

[quasi osprey]

well I am not really a minor nation so idk why I dont have manpower

[opaque zinc]

Training too many troops probably

Try to do more tank stuff

[quasi osprey]

no

[opaque zinc]

They use less manpower

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-soda-bottle-of-pepsi-gif-1878277565018148786

[quasi osprey]

none in trainig and I only have 1.6 mil men in the field

[opaque zinc]

What major are you

I’ve only ever played Germany as a major nation

[quasi osprey]

Union of soviet socialist repupblicks💀

[opaque zinc]

Oh yeah wtf did you do bro

[quasi osprey]

idk

😭

[opaque zinc]

Well I mean do tanks nonetheless then

I guess

[quasi osprey]

normally soviets can pump out thousands of units I only have 240

and its 1941

[opaque zinc]

Make sure to increase your conscription

[quasi osprey]

germany is at war with me

[opaque zinc]

If you have pure infantry you’re gonna lose a lot of manpower if you’re fighting Germany

[quasi osprey]

its pretty high

[wide osprey]

pretty historical btw

[quasi osprey]

0 losses

currently I am kinda at war but didnt lose or gain a single tile and have 0 casualties

[opaque zinc]

Oh

Ok I’m confused idk

[quasi osprey]

bluetooth fighting

[sharp sierra]

well defending is easy

[quasi osprey]

How do they think they are going to attack me

[azure palm]

I just want to make it clear that I did not start this

[opaque zinc]

Don’t they attack Lithuania

[quasi osprey]

I kept it annexed until they took memeland or smth then released as puppet

[clear dagger]

turned a lost cause into a superpower

[quasi osprey]

you have more manpower than me rn