#hoi4-general
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Dang it
usa prob too
no it's not but considering you're lux, it's probably one of the best thing you can get
However, you NEED support AA at the bare minimum, I can't empathize this enough
They can only shoot so many down before 10000 bombers depart for the isles
tech support help me
so that gif jus doenst work
Italy wtf did you do now
gg
No faction, declares on France. What a legend.
Against Belgium?
I would do the support AA if I had a spare research slot or military factory(all of them went on producing tanks because I've made more than enough guns, arti and support equipment before researching the tanks)
Also why are they bad? What can I do to make them goo
are you gonna fight belgium
cuz like theyre all guaranteed and shit at the start of the game
unless ur doing a decision to just make them submit or whatever\
Yes
As Luxembourg??
nvm
Belgium gets rid of guarantees very quickly
And by the time I turn communist and can justify they are already gone
ok well do that then i guess
I had a very good game but I forgot to justify on the Netherlands in time so I got cooked by the Allies and Germany attacking when I attacked the Netherlands, I'll repeat that but actually justify on that
Yeah
Luxembourg WC is way harder than Danzig in R56
Especially because I'm not using the paratroopers because I'm not cringe
I'm masochist
I might have underestimated how much fuel 10k strat bombers need
10k strat bombers
Ye I make 18.8 strats a day
Yeah
They do that
Never thought I would need to research fuel techs with 600 oil
Who are you playing as?
Some schizo Kaiserredux path
where you go megacorp
Small cas spam always does the trick for me I've never used tactical bombers
Also good small fighters
And cheapest small naval bombers+subs(subs aren't cheapest they are actually good)
I'm oppressing a lot of nations
Kaiserredux puppets give 50% of all their factories to you and for all my conquered territories that are in Europe I'm on harsh quota's
Oh ok
Green are my puppets
You beat the 4th Internationale?
I'd conquer more of Europe if I could, but currently I need resources, so I'm doing safari
And AH
ye
also ye
- it's pretty late game (1944)
Btw what happened to the Reichspact?
i think its stupid that you need 80% compliance to form the commonwealth
I uh, decided to ignore the black monday
and I went into civil war xd
Lol
Without that Poland would be really strong and Lithuania would he even stronger
Leader of Krupp is my country leader tho
Just do collabs on Lithuania
And we made medicine⢠available to all :)
And it isn't anarcho capitalism even
Why is it called Corporate Federation then
Cause I went megacorp
XD
at the very least it should work so if you puppet lithuania and annex them you get a load of compliance
couldnt, i only got one collab on soviet lithuania because of the soviet civil war
Oh so you went non historical
If you went historical you could do collabs from the start and then attack Lithuania
you wont have enough time before lithuania goes into civil war
Btw Poland's best path already allows you to form the Commonwealth for free via a focus
On historical Lithuania doesn't go into a civil war
We're almost done with the liberation of Africa
(read: the liberation of Africa's resources)
yeah but historical poland sucks
Africa doesn't have that much resources
i've already done that pth
In Kaiserredux it does
Depends on the path
Oh that gives an insentive to conquer it
Cuz in vanilla there's no point in not abandoning Africa it has very little resources
Ye in vanilla it's pretty useless
Congo now can get a few with the new focus tree but that's about it
At least it has Uranium(which isn't a resource in hoi4)
true
irl it made Belgium rich but if you would to believe hoi4 it was had nothing to offer
what would you guys think that would happpend if the ottomans never joined ww1, and if they end up collapsing, what if france and britain knew how to draw proper borders
hi vasily
At least Congo can core all of Africa
I'm pretty sure it's the only African country that can do that?
hello comrade
CCCP for life!
my comrade tokarevsky said that once, he ended up getting executed for conspiring against the union
How dare he say that that's counterrevolutionary
hmmmmmm Trotsky......
Trotsky is based
only valid respectable person to ever come out of france are either charles de gaulle or napoleon
real
worst thing to come out of france
Quebec
funny that, some sources claim that whenever a general staff or anyone important in the ussr was executed, stalin would demand to erase every trace of those purged staff from pictures and etc
typical
I'm excited for the china rework
more chaos and war crimes! splendid!
they are just adding counties that never existed
they did, but with a rename mostly
or they didn't
did you see the PRC is cut in half
can be both
although the warlord period of china was more of a mess than seen in the game
Paradox gotta improve their game so it competes with RT56
i stopped playing rt56 after adding some mods to spice up the vanilla version of the game to make it more fun with the lack of dlcs i currently find myself with
if i can call them dlcs
funny enough too
from the 200+ hours i have in the game
for a 60 dollar game you would expect the tech to go past 1945
60-120 are from playing rt56 alone
I need more manpower quickly
i mean, its a game about the second world war, what do you expect }
add more realism with the costumizations of tanks, planes, ships and the icons
what conscription do you have?
Extensive
are you at war?
and also optimize late game
The issue is that no one is strong enough for me to go on service by requirement
i have a 24gb ram pc with a damn 3060 and it still runs like ass, with or without mods too
then just go to war
no one in the entire world
3060 with 24 gigs?
im packin a 7080 XT with 32 gigs
I'll just delete my army and rebuild it tbh
what country you playing as?
hello?
Germany
Tbh no one can touch me
bro IS going to get touched past 1940
invade poland yet?
schizophrenic
no it's 1945 lmao
I've already conquered what I want
bro im gonna touch germany as the ussr past 1941
because we be at war
oh
also guys
i learned how to use the navy after like
90 or 100 hours of playtime
you just realized
yes
already have a 40ish size navy
mainly of destroyers, submarines and light cruisers, separated into their own task forces
darn
im planning to build battlecruisers and more if my resources allow me to
FR
this will be the human population in 2085
us when we become old
bismarck too
indeed tovarish
lowkey, hoi4 was the last stone in my gaunlet to finally become the ultimate history nerd
COAT OF ARMS BANNERS FLY IN THE WIND, FOR THE GLORY OF HELLAS
metal and history were the things that kept me alive through the toughest times too, lmao
brb
Too centrally planned for my liking. 3/10
that one guy who keeps begging for a japan dlc can finally rest in peace
wish they select a new portrait for hirohito cuz holy cannoli he looks old
i'll miss the double chin tho
Hirohito is not an absolute ruler for Japan
It should be Keisuke Okada
For Gathering Storm
And Hiranuma KiichirÅ for Blitzkrieg
was tojo a ministar or general ?
a junior second rank
Do you guys got any tips
Dont lose
rush gun technology and build mils early than you think are the two things i like
Do a lot of the economy tree ASAP
Especially if you start in 1936
I do political and military focuses mid-1937 and afterwards
Boom
as germany?
you need to do anschluss in 36 and prinzeship as well
cant just ignore it
Y'all played Red World?
hirohito was more of a political-people figure, some sort of head for the people of japan and a symbol of stability in my own words, he had little to no participation in the second world war (might be wrong) most of the chaos and everything was done by his general and hideki tojo in behind his back without any notice
another reason to why he was allowed to stay in the imperial throne after japan's defeat too
average kx game
willhelm the II is NOT surviving this one
he already died
Willhelm the III is NOT surviving this one
This good ?
How it feels when I realize that 90 2w cav divisions are not enough for the anschluss of austria
No
Do you have a range mio
Yes
Focke wulf is the range one
perfect
its just all the armor i have weighs it down a bit
Perfect then
Endsieg?
cause those are stupid
They have downtime where you can push
1944 - Downfall
Yeah ik
its just a nightmare holding during the offensives
they make me want to harm myself
Alright ill work on the division templates now
Also you should check #ask-for-help-here pins
I think i remember them mostly
I am now kinda starting to play more again
took a break once i reached 1K hours
Fair
Played a lil there and there
and now i am really returning
hours are going up like crazy
I'm a tiny bit behind you in the hours department
its bc I talk with highly intellectual hoi4 people
This is honestly such a stupid debuff
Soviets got this
So stupid
the casualtie ratio was insane
Should i keep the field hospital
Cause manpower will become an issue
This is for holding correct?
Yep
I will only use my tanks for offensives really
Reduce down to 12-16w
Keep the field hospital ?
16w and add radio
I have not played the 1944 mod
300 Mills
should be good industry wise
maybe also AA if you dont have air sup
Thats the signal company right?
yea for organization i think
i always thought it was useless trash so i dont know the statas
i just looked at the stats and thought the org might be useful for defending
Signal company allows you to reinforce into a battle much quicker
So i think this is good
and higher chances of picking good tactics and reinforce rate
That should be very helpfull
AA isnt too nevessary
My air will get destroyed early on
1944 germany mod
holding inf shouldnt take many casualties regardless
the game clearly wants you to spam out a shit ton of 2w divisions and then convert them to 50w to bank manpower in before you get this debuff
skill issue
It starts with this debuff
I get it instantly
iirc
No
why would they start with it
It is 1944 mod
Its 1944 Downfall
i guess it's because they can't like, start with casualties at the start of the game? due to mod limitations?
Soviets suffered much more casualties then the germans did
So should i remove the field hospitals?
I see that
mios arent applied
far too many mils on guns
Shifted them to mostly tanks
and i took a little off of arty
I am trying to build more refinerys rn
i suppose you can leave maybe 40 mils total on tanks including conversions
but i would not cheap out on fighter production
yeah
producing with MAN
why
for mech did u do the production cost reduction thing
I have no more rubber
Probably was on there by default
I think so?
and why is convert tank a different MIO
that doesnt save cost
prolly not enough army xp
Dawg how much artillery do u need
Btw basic tank chassis will be all u need
I took a bit out
20 out to be exact
Are u using line arty or smth?
No
Should I use henschel for both?
You prolly only need like 20 on arty maybe less
u got an extra 0 there
on design yeah
on prod line you might wanna grind both idk
there
then research synthetic rubber
Yep i am
can you import more from siam
What did i do wrong
then let it run for a couple days\
after that click the conversion button
you know how to design conversion tanks right
This is my first time trying
just slap everything on and put a HMG for the base model, then for the converted model just change the gun to high velocity 3 or whatever
Yeah i think i did it right
also be clear with your naming because ur going to have 30 variants of the same design and you'll want to keep toggling obsolescence on and off
because of how the game worls
marking everything obsolete once you change out a module
putting 100 mils on tanks is crazy
also assign a mass production mio with cut corner policy to the base model, then another for the conversion
Alright my brain is frozen
My neighbours are blasting music very loud, thats definitely not helping
Ill see if i can trade with siam
Alright can get a bit more
Did u ever hear of meta tanks š
Alright here, says i will have some issues for a sec, but once the trade goes through i should be fine
We're doing a bit of tryharding RIP
this is endsieg not sheeps mod
Yeah you might not need 200 piercing tank destroyers
i love 200 piercing TDs
But yeah they're nice
I imagine Soviets will have some tanks but will mostly be infantry, so maybe MC2 mediums would work
do you go down the TD tree for mc2
It's available in the artillery tree too
BTW what research do you have
You probably have it then, it's 1944
BTW I am just guessing here
I don't know the mod at all
kinda assume the soviets to only have inf meatwalls
would it be pushing their luck to run howitzer
In that case no, you can absolutely do howitzer
Fair enough
Doubt it
Not for a while
I will have to hold them off for a bit
then maybe once i get a few minor encirclements i can
sure
Panther wotan line aint doing shit š
Guys I was looking at the developer notes and I'm pumped for the new china update
i thought you typed gumped
Brazil things
I have 1.4M men for the eastern front
oh my GOD BRO
Think i am ready to unpause
I think you're in an okay position
Maginot is like butter if you have the CAS and proper support companies
Austria is a quick kill
luxembourg joined the danube federation
1 major down
And then you just have to march into Austria
im f'd
France is France so ur fine
Romania or turkey may become the 3rd major but u should be fine
if belgium joins the danube faction that'll help me
You also have the Dutch East Indies, which you can trade with by land
nono i took resource rights
it doesnt
Oof
So there's convoys out of the East Indies?
In any case, yeah I'd beat up France first so I wouldn't have to deal with its navy attacking the Atlantic
I do believe that imperial Germany gets bypass the maginot too
no the belgians just joined the danuabe faction
Guys i want to play Japan but im new. Should I be scared or yolo banzai?
Please advise
I've got a spreadsheet
Although you can get like 75% attack bonus on forts plus reducing fort effectiveness by half so yeah that's why the Maginot doesn't matter
i think one army group o nthe austrian border is enough
U must banzai the enemy lines
Make us proud š«”
you should be scared
uh
Hai!
Shoot
But navy confuse
You have to yolo to game impact really
Storm the southern resource area
Roger that
all you need to do is focus on light attack, AA, heavy attack and carriers
Oh yeah and don't forget to make three collaboration governments on China
how do you do that
Its all the DLCs that confuse me
yeah always do 3 collabs on china
Ok. Spy agency ASAP or wait?
Do u start at war w china?
All
Oh great
I bought the 3 month
Kill China, then take Malaya and Indonesia, then secure your position by taking out the allied Asia-Pacific minors (Raj, Australia, New Zealand)
This will leave the Allies with a lot on their hands and not a lot of resources
Maybe invade the US
If I dont pearl harbor will US leave me alone?
ASAP
Ok
It'll eventually join
Rude
Just not right then
Got it. So if im ready the move is to do pearl but better
Also you can just take the Netherlands in the China war I believe
Copy
Im not totally useless w navy just need pointers to optimize
U mean their colonies?
You can probably get it to join China's faction and have them capitulate alongside China
Hmm interesting
ties kamikaze headband
wunderbar
Hi chris
Hi Steve
Why is Poland attacking you
You can just storm them with tanks tbh
Hes doing a thing
Hi hoi4 player
im attacking them
I see
Falling back to my defensive line
BTW the danubian federation is extra annoying as Greece
and i have cores on basically everything
They invite everyone in the Balkans except for you
So no conquering Constantinople
And then, in my game, they literally got gobbled up by Switzerland
Thatās why I have this little thing called a console
do i annex all or annex my cores and puppet the polish
Black magic!
no collab
So I built a navy, stormed Italy, killed Switzerland, and then started destroying the Japanese navy
I despise all weavers of the Dark Arts
if you did the german-soviet pact then just annex all and a event pop-up will appear of the soviet union asking to get their polish cores back too
As the Czechs. Impressive
Greeks
But it would be impressive as the Czechs too
Im pretending its Czechs
Fair
Dont ruin my dreams
fair enough
alexander the great would be proud
Hmm
i hate having to trudge though india though
Macedonia
macedonia is a part of greece, north macedonia does claim it tho
unless aus somehow becomes a major
id deal with everything north of torres strait then gun for the island chains, hawaii and the us
2fort is either a friendly hive or a spot to witness the truthness of chaos in its pure form
i say this as a former ex tf2 player
why does france and austria have like 250 divs combined
i say it as if i served in the blu team lmao
Ignore my great handwriting
I recommend making some tanks
not even shakespeare comes close to your impecable handwritting
Retreat seems to be going well
Just know that image is saved in my gallery now.
greece just joined
I decided to do decision.nochecks at the beginning of the game and lmao
Do it more, I can still see different notifications on there.
your pfp is a true representation of what the mental state of an average hoi4 player looks like
Whenever I do this I always see Yugoslavia explode and Germany make 2 billion reich puppets
i think it is in my best interest to instead beat up the czech entente with only the czechs in it
Reason why I have the pfp to began with.
Anyways I think I looked like this at the end of everything, also with Hannover
european czechoslovakia
no way, i thought czechoslovakia was asian
the danube fed has atleast 8 divs on each tile on both fronts
do 30 width tanks work
whats happeni9ng woth the ai. why didnt Denmark surrunder
You didn't even take any of their land, I think.
im not germany
do you have gotterdamerung
ai is germany
Oh.
im playing Fascist Netherlands
Decision.nochecks denmark is flipping color multiple times an hour
Canada is the current owner
Can someone help me figure out how i can get the bottom one to be able to convert?
I don't think i am doing this correctly
the bottom one is outdated
Press the green convert button
recomission it
WTF
like how Russia and Ukraine are recommisioning T34s lol
the age of the drone is here
lmao
What am I looking at?
I decided to do decision.nochecks and let the game run
And the game is running so slowly
Game just crashed
The top one is the bad one, i need the conversion button to be available to the bottom
Both have been recommissioned
Yep
hell yeah
i got italy
now we steal the turks
and the danubes have like 3 more frontlines
I still can't?
Does one of them have to be outdated?
Units in field
Oh i think its good now
You can disable them from reinforcing with it
Yep i got it now
Did that
what if
ISP replaced chiang kai shek
what would he do if he was in charge of china
PER or MEFO for spartaus league germany? im thinking PER
irl be like
there's some bonuses to mefo bills in the spartacus path but idk if you get into war fast enough for mefo bills to be worth it
but fr
i just snaked to paris and coast
20-30 divs stuck in belgian encirclement
when i continue i just gotta go thru balkans
Do u know what ur name always reminds me of
No
for me his name reminds me of the soviet-afghan war
Hehe, funny zombie map mode.
because of how the battle of helms deep in south africa revolved around the sun
Yeah pretty much man
Hey whats going on. I joined this server, because after 2.7k hours on Hoi4. I saw a tierlist for support companies that featured a Palm Tree and a Couple Crates icon as a support company. I cant find any info online on what it is, and its bothering me to high hell. What is the name of it?
Oh yeah thats palm tree company
It gives coconuts and gives a health boost
The ragebait is working
probably some italian shit
No
Can we add pasta points to hoi4?
Brasil and congo š„
Jungle pioneers
heres some spanish civil war vomit
Yucky
Jungle pioneers
These aren't that bad necessarily if you are in jungle or forest terrain
only really useful in malaya, burma, siam, brazil
You can also just land with pioneers and then swap templates to jungle pioneers when needed
And yeah
hello yalls
hello pink yapper
wassup
Not necessarily bad, not that great either
I was just stumped
They gotta give more nations access to these unique support companies
Yes
Theyre bad
Only congo and brasil can even use them
But i guess you could send their troops to malaysia
Yeah their main deficiency is that there are so few jungles in historical
Philadelphia
I mean in non-historical you'd just fight in the jungle areas of Congo and Guyana,
I didnt make it idk
No
You wouldnt
Country specific tier
I can assure you
so
You just never fight there
In fact
Taking all of the congo besides the coast doesnt even cap them
Trust me i tried
congle
I mean if you're Congo you're likely fighting in this green area
That's what I'm saying
hello
No
The vps are in the forest areas š
Jungle pioneers also give 10% attack and 30% movement to forest
IDK why armored car recon is so high tbh
yap yap
Hello
land cruiser is also NOT a+
i just watched boondocks so im inclined to use slurs
I didn't notice that but yeah
who tf manually disables the lung for replies
lung
I love manually disabling my lungs to own the repliers
what does this mean
uh what
Referring to this comment
Yo if the sea had tiles why didnt the axis just play chess to win the sea war
RIP
They got deathstacked
because the allies had more pieces than the germans
Isn't it crazy that at the same time as the Normandy landings the US was also executing offensives in Italy (Rome fell 6.4.44) and the Pacific (Saipan landings June 44)? US logistics were unreal
American logistics are truly unmatched
fighting on 3 fronts all thousands of miles from the american homeland
Totally. And offensives consume exponentially more supply than defensive
Thats why they dont seem like they'll be fun to play lol
Imma big boy now
I shockingly rarely use support artillery nowadays
why
fair
also support aa for s tier bro
and super heavy anti air for s tier ;troll;
It is nice to have but it isn't necessary like AA is under red air
fair
10% more stats is powerful, but when I can spam 32.4 width mountaineers its effects are diluted
Its good
Its not like the best tho
Just win your battle within 4 hours
You'd also see that quite a few multiplayer holding templates don't use support artillery either
The issue that most people seem to have playing minor powers is making completely unreasonable and unnecessary investments
Like putting 5+ mils on artillery, another 4+ on support equipment
You dont need all that
Yeah
true that sir
1 on artillery is fine for supports
Like 2 factories on support equipment is ok so you can give it to your good units
Or like 5+ factories on trucks
If you only use it for supply and your army is small you do not need more than like 1 maybe 2
Building trains is also like overrated tbh
Research slots can also be limited too
If you're a minor with 3 research slots you can't just research all lines of artillery in addition to infantry equipment, artillery, and industry techs
Been there
Havent played chile much yet
But it just seems so painful
But like iran yeahh
Actually the strategy I used for Iran isn't that different to the one I used for Chile
Or ethiopia..
yo man my post has 1100 upvotes in reedit for some reason
I mean for Ethiopia I got the annex Vichy France because its capital is in Djibouti bug
nah Chile? thats hell (for me)
But yeah roaching with 8-width militia/irregulars is a thing I did in both Ethiopia and Chile
Which path
mapuche and fascist
its the easier
but
still hard both ways
form chilean empire
Yeah Mapuche might be a pain, you only have one way of getting cores and then you get no more
by the way
Monarchist Chile is suprisingly chill
i liked communist china
No idea, not touching that region until DLC
What about the french path
I heard it sucks
I mean that is the French path
China is fun..
You need to try prc
i suppose so
wth happened to china
yes but im suffering rn
china probably might not be fun anymore
beating USSR and japan
The French path is tricky, you must defeat Argentina, and then somehow also get to Mexico and France and all of that within a limited time frame. But this is the mountaineer buff path I talked about earlier. You also get population buffs too
And then, as Chile, also defeat Brazil somewhere in the way
as a minor nation
Just hope that Argentina and Brazil don't turn communist or fascist and just recruit ridiculous amounts of manpower
or xibei san ma if i want to suffer
It doesnt matter who unifies it
well yes but starting as a minor nation i mean
I did it in historical, so Argentina had like 7 divisions
but yeah
I was trying a communist brasil game earlier and its like
And Brazil like 13
Too slow
Its rlly good and cores all of south america and fast wargoals
But its slow compared to argentina
So kinda useless to learn imo
I mean can you start conquering in 1940?
Depends
I like Building up
It's at least doable I think
Its fun
Oh its doable
Also i Lost the Manchuko Independence war like 700 times yesterday
But if youre looking to perform at high ish level argentina is just better
I just wanna establish the Mandate of Heaven!!
The idea is to not lose
And also go five peoples
Its a lot better
I always do that
I play on 5 speed
Were you always constructing, always researching?
Not particularly duh
A lot of 5 speed players just forget/cant click in time
U wouldn't believe how many people just forget lol
Its not great yeah
I forgot to research guns once
As Canada
I forget a lot tbh
Were you researching important techs ahead of time?
Like gun you want ahead of time
Production too
I was stuck in 1942 with 1936 guns once
I was trying but only two Research slots at the start
Yeah another key of my Iran and Chile strategies was to just get gun 3 as quickly as possible, and this meant forgetting about artillery
Yeah
Ill try today again
1 on gun
1 on production
Just keep them there
Dont research anything else
Dont go 'oh no the production boost is in 1937 i have to do construction for my 2 civs'
Just research the production
For Iran I didn't even research AA until after I defeated Greece
Im in class after i finish for today ill try again
Yeah
Like i was in Seoul before i Got naval Invaded
Also when do you get a White Peace offer from Japan
Like why can't Hirohito just get CBTd into Surrendering 
Don't you have to kick the Japanese off Korea first?
Guys is this a good template? If not, how can improve it?(Except adding support AA because I know about it I can't yet)
Why does it only have 75 soft attack
Do you only have basic equipment?
All tech gone into tank
Because my tank uses cannon of 2nd level
Also it's like 1938
So no 2nd guns yet
Why did you research basic mediums
They are 1939 tech
BTW which nation is this
I know
Luxembourg, I have 6 of this divisions
Ok as luxembourg even less excuse to have bad guns
They work against Belgium but improving the template will definitely help
You have the generic tree
It gives you research bonuses for 39 gun, then the 2 techs after
So you can get the 42 gun in late 39/early 40
You just have to keep teching gun with a slot
I needed the tanks so I focused my research in them and conversion tech
Its why the generic tree is quite strong
Cuz ur guns are really good
And also like 900 weekly manpower and some eco ig
But also I only have 2 research slots for most of the time
And I need to rush the industrial trss
Tanks?
Third slot
Once I unlock it?
Yeah i mean if you wanna do tanks
I was just rushing tanks in my games
Thats a third/fourth slot tech
Usually 2 on industry is nice but youll live
And the tank slot is just
Research interwars
Then go to research either AA line (pretty good for tank guns tbh) artillery line or AT line
And just ignore the other 2
Interwars, medium, 1 armour research, 1 arti research, radio reseach
Are interwars good?
Radio is not gonna win the game for you
Its a tank
"good enough"
It can fit a gun
Ok I'll try that with interwars it's way less research
And also research good guns
Also as Luxembourg shouldn't you get AA?
Against who? Belgium? Netherlands?
They don't have air
And France falls even like that
Against Germany
I'll have the AA by the time I'm at war with it
AA is good for cheap tanks
You get autocannons
And also heavy guns if you wanna pivot to heavies when your factories > manpower
I don't think Luxembourg can afford heavies
I mean you can, you get heavy cannon 3 if you go far enough
heavy cannon 2 is mid-way through
You will be able to later
When you have benelux and/or EU
And you only need basic heavy tech for it so its not some massive tech youre behind on
Like air is probably not viable
By that time obviously
Unless you license
Thats what i mean by pivot later?
Not like early game