#hoi4-general

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sharp sierra
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i did the focus to ask for the territories

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they all said yea but because it was disputed territory the game just screwed mne

woven belfry
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Maybe : )

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Then the whole world help em!

zinc light
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Dang it

woven belfry
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usa prob too

woven belfry
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Or anyone here

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I need help šŸ™

snow rain
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no it's not but considering you're lux, it's probably one of the best thing you can get
However, you NEED support AA at the bare minimum, I can't empathize this enough

wary bone
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They can only shoot so many down before 10000 bombers depart for the isles

carmine sinew
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so that gif jus doenst work

bronze mango
prisma ermine
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one fun game guess the country

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no mods 1941 1m army size

halcyon pasture
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Italy wtf did you do now

meager raptor
prisma ermine
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gg

meager raptor
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No faction, declares on France. What a legend.

grizzled zenith
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I would do the support AA if I had a spare research slot or military factory(all of them went on producing tanks because I've made more than enough guns, arti and support equipment before researching the tanks)

grizzled zenith
sharp sierra
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are you gonna fight belgium

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cuz like theyre all guaranteed and shit at the start of the game

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unless ur doing a decision to just make them submit or whatever\

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
sharp sierra
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nvm

grizzled zenith
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And by the time I turn communist and can justify they are already gone

sharp sierra
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ok well do that then i guess

grizzled zenith
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I had a very good game but I forgot to justify on the Netherlands in time so I got cooked by the Allies and Germany attacking when I attacked the Netherlands, I'll repeat that but actually justify on that

grizzled zenith
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Luxembourg WC is way harder than Danzig in R56

grizzled zenith
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I'm masochist

wary bone
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I might have underestimated how much fuel 10k strat bombers need

misty fossil
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10k strat bombers

wary bone
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Ye I make 18.8 strats a day

heavy vigil
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They do that

wary bone
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Never thought I would need to research fuel techs with 600 oil

grizzled zenith
wary bone
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where you go megacorp

grizzled zenith
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Usual stuff

grizzled zenith
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Also good small fighters

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And cheapest small naval bombers+subs(subs aren't cheapest they are actually good)

wary bone
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Also making cas and fighters ye

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
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As basically just Germany

wary bone
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I'm oppressing a lot of nations

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Kaiserredux puppets give 50% of all their factories to you and for all my conquered territories that are in Europe I'm on harsh quota's

wary bone
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Green are my puppets

grizzled zenith
wary bone
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I'd conquer more of Europe if I could, but currently I need resources, so I'm doing safari

grizzled zenith
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And AH

wary bone
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also ye

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  • it's pretty late game (1944)
grizzled zenith
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It's so annoying that KX doesn't allow to annex puppets

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Would be very nice

wary bone
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I use toolpack to fix these annoyances

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Mostly for borders

grizzled zenith
slim nexus
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i think its stupid that you need 80% compliance to form the commonwealth

wary bone
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and I went into civil war xd

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
wary bone
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Leader of Krupp is my country leader tho

grizzled zenith
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Just do collabs on Lithuania

wary bone
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And we made medicineā„¢ available to all :)

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
wary bone
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Cause I went megacorp

grizzled zenith
slim nexus
wary bone
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It's laissez faire capitalism

slim nexus
grizzled zenith
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If you went historical you could do collabs from the start and then attack Lithuania

slim nexus
grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
wary bone
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We're almost done with the liberation of Africa

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(read: the liberation of Africa's resources)

slim nexus
grizzled zenith
wary bone
grizzled zenith
wary bone
grizzled zenith
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Cuz in vanilla there's no point in not abandoning Africa it has very little resources

wary bone
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Ye in vanilla it's pretty useless

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Congo now can get a few with the new focus tree but that's about it

grizzled zenith
wary bone
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true

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irl it made Belgium rich but if you would to believe hoi4 it was had nothing to offer

crisp wyvern
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what would you guys think that would happpend if the ottomans never joined ww1, and if they end up collapsing, what if france and britain knew how to draw proper borders

grizzled zenith
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I'm pretty sure it's the only African country that can do that?

rocky mist
crisp wyvern
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because im from the prc

rocky mist
crisp wyvern
grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
crisp wyvern
rocky mist
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worst thing to come out of france

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Quebec

crisp wyvern
crisp wyvern
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as usual

rocky mist
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typical

brittle oasis
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I'm excited for the china rework

crisp wyvern
rocky mist
crisp wyvern
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or they didn't

rocky mist
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did you see the PRC is cut in half

crisp wyvern
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can be both

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although the warlord period of china was more of a mess than seen in the game

rocky mist
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Paradox gotta improve their game so it competes with RT56

crisp wyvern
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if i can call them dlcs

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funny enough too

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from the 200+ hours i have in the game

rocky mist
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for a 60 dollar game you would expect the tech to go past 1945

crisp wyvern
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60-120 are from playing rt56 alone

wary bone
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I need more manpower quickly

crisp wyvern
rocky mist
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add more realism with the costumizations of tanks, planes, ships and the icons

rocky mist
wary bone
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Extensive

rocky mist
crisp wyvern
wary bone
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The issue is that no one is strong enough for me to go on service by requirement

crisp wyvern
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i have a 24gb ram pc with a damn 3060 and it still runs like ass, with or without mods too

wary bone
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no one in the entire world

rocky mist
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im packin a 7080 XT with 32 gigs

wary bone
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I'll just delete my army and rebuild it tbh

rocky mist
rocky mist
wary bone
wary bone
rocky mist
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whats your countires status now

crisp wyvern
rocky mist
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invade poland yet?

wary bone
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no it's 1945 lmao

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I've already conquered what I want

rocky mist
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because we be at war

crisp wyvern
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oh

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also guys

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i learned how to use the navy after like

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90 or 100 hours of playtime

rocky mist
crisp wyvern
rocky mist
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with just light cruisers

crisp wyvern
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mainly of destroyers, submarines and light cruisers, separated into their own task forces

rocky mist
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darnhaHaa

crisp wyvern
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im planning to build battlecruisers and more if my resources allow me to

sharp sierra
rocky mist
crisp wyvern
rocky mist
crisp wyvern
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rate my playlist guys

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enough metal to rebuild the uss maine

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ignore fdj

rocky mist
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THE LAST STAND

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DEFENSE OF MOSCOW

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SABATON COMRADE?

crisp wyvern
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bismarck too

crisp wyvern
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lowkey, hoi4 was the last stone in my gaunlet to finally become the ultimate history nerd

rocky mist
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rate my spotify sabaton playlist

crisp wyvern
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instant 10/10, even beyond the 10

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we share the same metalhead mentality

rocky mist
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COAT OF ARMS BANNERS FLY IN THE WIND, FOR THE GLORY OF HELLAS

crisp wyvern
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metal and history were the things that kept me alive through the toughest times too, lmao

rocky mist
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brb

wind swift
glacial oasis
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NEW HOI4 YT SHORT?!?!?

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JAPANNNNN UURAHHHHH

crisp wyvern
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wish they select a new portrait for hirohito cuz holy cannoli he looks old

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i'll miss the double chin tho

prisma ermine
chilly cipher
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Hirohito is not an absolute ruler for Japan

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It should be Keisuke Okada

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For Gathering Storm

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And Hiranuma Kiichirō for Blitzkrieg

prisma ermine
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was tojo a ministar or general ?

chilly cipher
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a junior second rank

frank comet
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Do you guys got any tips

heavy vigil
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Dont lose

brittle cypress
ionic arch
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Especially if you start in 1936

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I do political and military focuses mid-1937 and afterwards

serene token
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Boom

heavy vigil
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you need to do anschluss in 36 and prinzeship as well

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cant just ignore it

serene token
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Y'all played Red World?

crisp wyvern
# chilly cipher

hirohito was more of a political-people figure, some sort of head for the people of japan and a symbol of stability in my own words, he had little to no participation in the second world war (might be wrong) most of the chaos and everything was done by his general and hideki tojo in behind his back without any notice

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another reason to why he was allowed to stay in the imperial throne after japan's defeat too

cerulean orchid
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average kx game

crisp wyvern
cerulean orchid
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he already died

crisp wyvern
warped flint
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This good ?

leaden mulch
ionic arch
leaden mulch
warped flint
leaden mulch
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I'd use that next run

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But yeah that looks good

warped flint
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Focke wulf is the range one

misty fossil
warped flint
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its just all the armor i have weighs it down a bit

misty fossil
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cant get any better than that i think

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just need to ramp that mio level up

leaden mulch
warped flint
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I am trying out this 1944 mod again

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I turned off the soviet offensives

leaden mulch
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Endsieg?

warped flint
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cause those are stupid

leaden mulch
warped flint
warped flint
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its just a nightmare holding during the offensives

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they make me want to harm myself

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Alright ill work on the division templates now

leaden mulch
warped flint
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I am now kinda starting to play more again

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took a break once i reached 1K hours

leaden mulch
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Fair

warped flint
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Played a lil there and there

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and now i am really returning

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hours are going up like crazy

leaden mulch
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I'm a tiny bit behind you in the hours department

warped flint
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Probably a bit better

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cause i am booty at the game

leaden mulch
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its bc I talk with highly intellectual hoi4 people

warped flint
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I lowkey was better at the game when i had like, 800-1000 hours

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that was my peak

leaden mulch
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ts is my peak now

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mainly due to casey icl

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and being in sheepcord

warped flint
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This is honestly such a stupid debuff

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Soviets got this

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So stupid

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the casualtie ratio was insane

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Should i keep the field hospital

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Cause manpower will become an issue

leaden mulch
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This is for holding correct?

warped flint
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I will only use my tanks for offensives really

leaden mulch
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Reduce down to 12-16w

warped flint
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Keep the field hospital ?

leaden mulch
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Yeah

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If you have the industrial might ofc

misty fossil
leaden mulch
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I have not played the 1944 mod

warped flint
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should be good industry wise

misty fossil
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maybe also AA if you dont have air sup

leaden mulch
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Nah

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I think german air is good enough

warped flint
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Its lowkey buns at the start

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i have to build it up myself

warped flint
sharp sierra
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yea for organization i think

leaden mulch
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Not for org

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For initiative

sharp sierra
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i always thought it was useless trash so i dont know the statas

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i just looked at the stats and thought the org might be useful for defending

leaden mulch
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Signal company allows you to reinforce into a battle much quicker

warped flint
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So i think this is good

misty fossil
warped flint
misty fossil
warped flint
heavy vigil
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also just expensive imo

warped flint
leaden mulch
heavy vigil
brittle cypress
# warped flint

the game clearly wants you to spam out a shit ton of 2w divisions and then convert them to 50w to bank manpower in before you get this debuff

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skill issue

leaden mulch
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It starts with this debuff

leaden mulch
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iirc

brittle cypress
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the heck

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is that not kaiserreich

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i see zentrum

leaden mulch
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No

brittle cypress
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why would they start with it

leaden mulch
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It is 1944 mod

warped flint
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Its 1944 Downfall

brittle cypress
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ohh

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ok

warped flint
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the debuff is really stupid

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soviets get this

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and i get -6????

brittle cypress
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i guess it's because they can't like, start with casualties at the start of the game? due to mod limitations?

warped flint
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Soviets suffered much more casualties then the germans did

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So should i remove the field hospitals?

leaden mulch
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Ig so

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Show production

warped flint
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I am trying to do something with the conversion, might be doing it wrong

leaden mulch
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I see that

sharp sierra
misty fossil
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hm

misty fossil
warped flint
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and i took a little off of arty

sharp sierra
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are u making mech

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not enough rubber maybe

warped flint
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I am trying to build more refinerys rn

misty fossil
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leave 15 and put the rest on aircrafts

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its the fighters that win wars

misty fossil
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but i would not cheap out on fighter production

heavy vigil
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producing with MAN

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why

leaden mulch
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for mech did u do the production cost reduction thing

warped flint
warped flint
warped flint
heavy vigil
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that doesnt save cost

leaden mulch
warped flint
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Sorry 1 second

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my brain needs to process the information

sudden thistle
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Btw basic tank chassis will be all u need

warped flint
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20 out to be exact

sudden thistle
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Are u using line arty or smth?

warped flint
warped flint
leaden mulch
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You prolly only need like 20 on arty maybe less

sharp sierra
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u got an extra 0 there

leaden mulch
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Support arty is part of his holding inf

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Calm

heavy vigil
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on prod line you might wanna grind both idk

warped flint
misty fossil
warped flint
misty fossil
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can you import more from siam

misty fossil
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mark the base model as obsolete

warped flint
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What did i do wrong

misty fossil
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then let it run for a couple days\

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after that click the conversion button

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you know how to design conversion tanks right

warped flint
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This is my first time trying

misty fossil
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just slap everything on and put a HMG for the base model, then for the converted model just change the gun to high velocity 3 or whatever

warped flint
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Yeah i think i did it right

misty fossil
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also be clear with your naming because ur going to have 30 variants of the same design and you'll want to keep toggling obsolescence on and off

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because of how the game worls

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marking everything obsolete once you change out a module

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putting 100 mils on tanks is crazy

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also assign a mass production mio with cut corner policy to the base model, then another for the conversion

warped flint
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Alright my brain is frozen

misty fossil
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happens to everyone

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just put half those mils into planes

warped flint
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My neighbours are blasting music very loud, thats definitely not helping

sudden thistle
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That’s normal?

warped flint
misty fossil
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how is it normal

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are you making 2 tank army groups

warped flint
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Alright can get a bit more

sudden thistle
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Did u ever hear of meta tanks 😭

warped flint
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Alright here, says i will have some issues for a sec, but once the trade goes through i should be fine

dusky burrow
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We're doing a bit of tryharding RIP

misty fossil
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this is endsieg not sheeps mod

dusky burrow
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Yeah you might not need 200 piercing tank destroyers

misty fossil
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i love 200 piercing TDs

dusky burrow
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But yeah they're nice

dusky burrow
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I imagine Soviets will have some tanks but will mostly be infantry, so maybe MC2 mediums would work

misty fossil
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do you go down the TD tree for mc2

dusky burrow
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It's available in the artillery tree too

misty fossil
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i mean AT

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oh okay

dusky burrow
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BTW what research do you have

misty fossil
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he looks up to date with everything

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or she

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or whatever

dusky burrow
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You probably have it then, it's 1944

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BTW I am just guessing here

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I don't know the mod at all

misty fossil
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kinda assume the soviets to only have inf meatwalls

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would it be pushing their luck to run howitzer

dusky burrow
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In that case no, you can absolutely do howitzer

warped flint
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How is this defensive line?

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I will try my best to hold this supply hub here

dusky burrow
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Fair enough

misty fossil
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put some tanks there

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can you push to the stalin line

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dnieper river

dusky burrow
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Doubt it

warped flint
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I will have to hold them off for a bit

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then maybe once i get a few minor encirclements i can

misty fossil
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sure

sharp sierra
sudden grotto
brittle oasis
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Guys I was looking at the developer notes and I'm pumped for the new china update

sharp sierra
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i thought you typed gumped

dusky burrow
warped flint
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I have 1.4M men for the eastern front

sudden falcon
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oh my GOD BRO

warped flint
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Think i am ready to unpause

bold bloom
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Guys it’s so sad my computer broke last week

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It quit on me

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No hoi4

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: (

dusky burrow
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Maginot is like butter if you have the CAS and proper support companies

sudden thistle
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Austria is a quick kill

sudden falcon
sudden thistle
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1 major down

dusky burrow
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And then you just have to march into Austria

sudden falcon
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im f'd

sudden thistle
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France is France so ur fine

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Romania or turkey may become the 3rd major but u should be fine

sudden falcon
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if belgium joins the danube faction that'll help me

dusky burrow
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You also have the Dutch East Indies, which you can trade with by land

sudden falcon
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nono i took resource rights

dusky burrow
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Oooh

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Maybe that goes by land too, check your trade map

sudden falcon
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it doesnt

dusky burrow
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Oof

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So there's convoys out of the East Indies?

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In any case, yeah I'd beat up France first so I wouldn't have to deal with its navy attacking the Atlantic

sudden falcon
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we go historical

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bypass the maginot

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then focus east

dusky burrow
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I do believe that imperial Germany gets bypass the maginot too

sudden falcon
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no the belgians just joined the danuabe faction

wind swift
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Guys i want to play Japan but im new. Should I be scared or yolo banzai?

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Please advise

brittle oasis
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I've got a spreadsheet

dusky burrow
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Although you can get like 75% attack bonus on forts plus reducing fort effectiveness by half so yeah that's why the Maginot doesn't matter

sudden falcon
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i think one army group o nthe austrian border is enough

sudden thistle
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Make us proud 🫔

misty fossil
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uh

wind swift
wind swift
misty fossil
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just make medium tanks and focus big time on navy

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japan is a navy nation

wind swift
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But navy confuse

misty fossil
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me when people say navy is hard

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(its not)

dusky burrow
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Storm the southern resource area

wind swift
misty fossil
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all you need to do is focus on light attack, AA, heavy attack and carriers

dusky burrow
misty fossil
wind swift
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Its all the DLCs that confuse me

misty fossil
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yeah always do 3 collabs on china

wind swift
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Do u start at war w china?

sudden thistle
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To start with

wind swift
sudden thistle
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Oh great

wind swift
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I bought the 3 month

dusky burrow
# misty fossil how do you do that

Kill China, then take Malaya and Indonesia, then secure your position by taking out the allied Asia-Pacific minors (Raj, Australia, New Zealand)

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This will leave the Allies with a lot on their hands and not a lot of resources

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Maybe invade the US

wind swift
dusky burrow
wind swift
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Ok

dusky burrow
wind swift
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Rude

dusky burrow
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Just not right then

sudden thistle
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Look here for navy

wind swift
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Got it. So if im ready the move is to do pearl but better

dusky burrow
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Also you can just take the Netherlands in the China war I believe

wind swift
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Im not totally useless w navy just need pointers to optimize

wind swift
dusky burrow
sudden thistle
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Livadeia do u mean the funny faction trick

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lol

dusky burrow
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Yes

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(I know it's not intended lmao, depends on how much immersion you want)

sudden falcon
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wunderbar

heavy vigil
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Hi chris

wind swift
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Hi Steve

dusky burrow
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You can just storm them with tanks tbh

wind swift
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Hes doing a thing

sudden thistle
sudden falcon
dusky burrow
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I see

warped flint
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Falling back to my defensive line

dusky burrow
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BTW the danubian federation is extra annoying as Greece

sharp sierra
sudden falcon
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and i have cores on basically everything

dusky burrow
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They invite everyone in the Balkans except for you

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So no conquering Constantinople

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And then, in my game, they literally got gobbled up by Switzerland

sudden thistle
sudden falcon
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do i annex all or annex my cores and puppet the polish

sudden falcon
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no collab

dusky burrow
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So I built a navy, stormed Italy, killed Switzerland, and then started destroying the Japanese navy

wind swift
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I despise all weavers of the Dark Arts

crisp wyvern
dusky burrow
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But it would be impressive as the Czechs too

wind swift
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Im pretending its Czechs

dusky burrow
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Fair

wind swift
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Dont ruin my dreams

crisp wyvern
serene token
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Hmm

misty fossil
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i hate having to trudge though india though

wind swift
serene token
misty fossil
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def not new zealand

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and australia

crisp wyvern
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macedonia is a part of greece, north macedonia does claim it tho

misty fossil
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unless aus somehow becomes a major

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id deal with everything north of torres strait then gun for the island chains, hawaii and the us

sudden thistle
crisp wyvern
# serene token

2fort is either a friendly hive or a spot to witness the truthness of chaos in its pure form

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i say this as a former ex tf2 player

sudden falcon
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why does france and austria have like 250 divs combined

crisp wyvern
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i say it as if i served in the blu team lmao

sudden thistle
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Ignore my great handwriting

sudden thistle
crisp wyvern
serene token
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Alexander the Great is Macedonian

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I think

warped flint
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Retreat seems to be going well

serene token
sudden falcon
dusky burrow
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I decided to do decision.nochecks at the beginning of the game and lmao

serene token
crisp wyvern
sudden thistle
sudden falcon
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i think it is in my best interest to instead beat up the czech entente with only the czechs in it

serene token
dusky burrow
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Anyways I think I looked like this at the end of everything, also with Hannover

crisp wyvern
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no way, i thought czechoslovakia was asian

sudden falcon
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the danube fed has atleast 8 divs on each tile on both fronts

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do 30 width tanks work

next wigeon
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whats happeni9ng woth the ai. why didnt Denmark surrunder

serene token
next wigeon
sudden falcon
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do you have gotterdamerung

next wigeon
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ai is germany

next wigeon
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i have em all

serene token
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Oh.

next wigeon
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im playing Fascist Netherlands

dusky burrow
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Decision.nochecks denmark is flipping color multiple times an hour

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Canada is the current owner

warped flint
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Can someone help me figure out how i can get the bottom one to be able to convert?

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I don't think i am doing this correctly

sudden falcon
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the bottom one is outdated

dusky burrow
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Press the green convert button

sudden falcon
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recomission it

dusky burrow
next wigeon
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the age of the drone is here

dusky burrow
serene token
dusky burrow
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I decided to do decision.nochecks and let the game run

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And the game is running so slowly

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Game just crashed

warped flint
dusky burrow
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Yeah then recommission that one

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And then convert

warped flint
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Both have been recommissioned

heavy vigil
sudden falcon
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hell yeah

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i got italy

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now we steal the turks

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and the danubes have like 3 more frontlines

warped flint
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I still can't?

sudden falcon
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hmmm

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THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

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LMFAO

heavy vigil
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Also

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You have none in stockpile

warped flint
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Idk why its not going into the stock pile

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i mad it not put the bad ones

warped flint
heavy vigil
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And in stockpile

heavy vigil
warped flint
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Oh i think its good now

heavy vigil
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You can disable them from reinforcing with it

warped flint
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Yep i got it now

warped flint
crisp wyvern
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what if

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ISP replaced chiang kai shek

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what would he do if he was in charge of china

west sluice
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PER or MEFO for spartaus league germany? im thinking PER

sudden falcon
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literally one breakthrough

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and i snake to paris

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in ardennes

dusky burrow
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irl be like

west sluice
sudden falcon
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i just snaked to paris and coast

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20-30 divs stuck in belgian encirclement

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when i continue i just gotta go thru balkans

trim pike
warped flint
trim pike
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Its a chemistry thing

clear dagger
serene token
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Hehe, funny zombie map mode.

gusty oracle
clear dagger
# trim pike How

because of how the battle of helms deep in south africa revolved around the sun

glacial fox
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Hey whats going on. I joined this server, because after 2.7k hours on Hoi4. I saw a tierlist for support companies that featured a Palm Tree and a Couple Crates icon as a support company. I cant find any info online on what it is, and its bothering me to high hell. What is the name of it?

zenith geode
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It gives coconuts and gives a health boost

glacial fox
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The ragebait is working

sharp sierra
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probably some italian shit

trim pike
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No

zenith geode
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Can we add pasta points to hoi4?

heavy vigil
trim pike
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Jungle pioneers

glacial fox
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thank you

clear dagger
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heres some spanish civil war vomit

glacial fox
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Yucky

dusky burrow
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These aren't that bad necessarily if you are in jungle or forest terrain

urban ivy
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only really useful in malaya, burma, siam, brazil

dusky burrow
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You can also just land with pioneers and then swap templates to jungle pioneers when needed

dusky burrow
cedar lance
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hello yalls

urban ivy
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hello pink yapper

dusky burrow
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Oh

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I didn't read

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It's a nation exclusive

cedar lance
dusky burrow
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Not necessarily bad, not that great either

glacial fox
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I was just stumped

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They gotta give more nations access to these unique support companies

dusky burrow
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Yes

heavy vigil
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Only congo and brasil can even use them

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But i guess you could send their troops to malaysia

dusky burrow
sharp sierra
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Philadelphia

urban ivy
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that shit is good

dusky burrow
heavy vigil
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I didnt make it idk

dusky burrow
heavy vigil
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I can assure you

urban ivy
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so

heavy vigil
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You just never fight there

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In fact

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Taking all of the congo besides the coast doesnt even cap them

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Trust me i tried

sharp sierra
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congle

urban ivy
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they only cap when u take useful stuff

dusky burrow
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I mean if you're Congo you're likely fighting in this green area

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That's what I'm saying

gusty oracle
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hello

heavy vigil
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The vps are in the forest areas 😭

dusky burrow
dusky burrow
urban ivy
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yap yap

dusky burrow
heavy vigil
urban ivy
dusky burrow
urban ivy
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who tf manually disables the lung for replies

heavy vigil
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lung

dusky burrow
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I love manually disabling my lungs to own the repliers

gusty oracle
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what does this mean

dusky burrow
zenith geode
urban ivy
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i meant to write ping

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t_t

dusky burrow
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RIP

urban ivy
wind swift
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Isn't it crazy that at the same time as the Normandy landings the US was also executing offensives in Italy (Rome fell 6.4.44) and the Pacific (Saipan landings June 44)? US logistics were unreal

gusty oracle
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fighting on 3 fronts all thousands of miles from the american homeland

wind swift
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Totally. And offensives consume exponentially more supply than defensive

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Thats why they dont seem like they'll be fun to play lol

leaden mulch
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I gotta do ts

leaden mulch
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Thank you @dusky burrow

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Brb

brittle oasis
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Imma big boy now

remote quarry
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sry wrong ping:(

uneven portal
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guys guys

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chat chat

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whatif

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in the new asia dlc

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they add korea focus tree

dusky burrow
uneven portal
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and super heavy anti air for s tier ;troll;

dusky burrow
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It is nice to have but it isn't necessary like AA is under red air

leaden mulch
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fair

uneven portal
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its broken for minors

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or countries that just

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cant

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build an airforce

dusky burrow
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10% more stats is powerful, but when I can spam 32.4 width mountaineers its effects are diluted

heavy vigil
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Its not like the best tho

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Just win your battle within 4 hours

dusky burrow
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You'd also see that quite a few multiplayer holding templates don't use support artillery either

heavy vigil
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The issue that most people seem to have playing minor powers is making completely unreasonable and unnecessary investments

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Like putting 5+ mils on artillery, another 4+ on support equipment

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You dont need all that

dusky burrow
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Yeah

uneven portal
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true that sir

heavy vigil
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1 on artillery is fine for supports

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Like 2 factories on support equipment is ok so you can give it to your good units

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Or like 5+ factories on trucks

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If you only use it for supply and your army is small you do not need more than like 1 maybe 2

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Building trains is also like overrated tbh

dusky burrow
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Research slots can also be limited too

uneven portal
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i still have no clue how supply works

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its too many buttons for my little brain

dusky burrow
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If you're a minor with 3 research slots you can't just research all lines of artillery in addition to infantry equipment, artillery, and industry techs

heavy vigil
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Havent played chile much yet

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But it just seems so painful

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But like iran yeahh

dusky burrow
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Actually the strategy I used for Iran isn't that different to the one I used for Chile

heavy vigil
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Or ethiopia..

fervent stone
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yo man my post has 1100 upvotes in reedit for some reason

dusky burrow
fervent stone
dusky burrow
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But yeah roaching with 8-width militia/irregulars is a thing I did in both Ethiopia and Chile

dusky burrow
fervent stone
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its the easier

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but

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still hard both ways

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form chilean empire

dusky burrow
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Yeah Mapuche might be a pain, you only have one way of getting cores and then you get no more

fervent stone
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by the way

dusky burrow
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Monarchist Chile is suprisingly chill

fervent stone
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i liked communist china

dusky burrow
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No idea, not touching that region until DLC

fervent stone
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but paradox made shit or something

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and now i hate playing

heavy vigil
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I heard it sucks

dusky burrow
heavy vigil
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You need to try prc

fervent stone
fervent stone
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until DLC

heavy vigil
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?

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It is fun rn

fervent stone
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wth happened to china

heavy vigil
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Nothing yet

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Dlc is later this year

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And update

fervent stone
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china probably might not be fun anymore

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beating USSR and japan

dusky burrow
# heavy vigil What about the french path

The French path is tricky, you must defeat Argentina, and then somehow also get to Mexico and France and all of that within a limited time frame. But this is the mountaineer buff path I talked about earlier. You also get population buffs too

And then, as Chile, also defeat Brazil somewhere in the way

fervent stone
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as a minor nation

heavy vigil
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China unified is major

fervent stone
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i play with minor china

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like

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comunist china

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sinkiang

dusky burrow
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Just hope that Argentina and Brazil don't turn communist or fascist and just recruit ridiculous amounts of manpower

heavy vigil
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Ok but then you unify the country

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And then youre a major

fervent stone
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or xibei san ma if i want to suffer

heavy vigil
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It doesnt matter who unifies it

fervent stone
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well yes but starting as a minor nation i mean

dusky burrow
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I did it in historical, so Argentina had like 7 divisions

fervent stone
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but yeah

heavy vigil
dusky burrow
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And Brazil like 13

heavy vigil
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Too slow

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Its rlly good and cores all of south america and fast wargoals

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But its slow compared to argentina

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So kinda useless to learn imo

dusky burrow
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I mean can you start conquering in 1940?

deft agate
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Depends

heavy vigil
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Earlier with good civil war

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Like mid-late 39

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Its so slow

deft agate
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I like Building up

dusky burrow
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It's at least doable I think

deft agate
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Its fun

heavy vigil
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Oh its doable

deft agate
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Also i Lost the Manchuko Independence war like 700 times yesterday

heavy vigil
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But if youre looking to perform at high ish level argentina is just better

deft agate
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I just wanna establish the Mandate of Heaven!!

heavy vigil
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And also go five peoples

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Its a lot better

deft agate
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I always do that

heavy vigil
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Neat

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Raised the banners?

deft agate
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Yeah

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I got naval invaded

heavy vigil
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Did you get the 39 gun before raising the banners?

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Did you play on 3/4 speed?

deft agate
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I play on 5 speed

heavy vigil
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Were you always constructing, always researching?

deft agate
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Duh

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When i could at least

heavy vigil
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Not particularly duh

deft agate
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Manchu eco at the start

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Is shit

heavy vigil
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A lot of 5 speed players just forget/cant click in time

eternal palm
heavy vigil
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Its not great yeah

deft agate
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As Canada

dusky burrow
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I forget a lot tbh

heavy vigil
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Were you researching important techs ahead of time?

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Like gun you want ahead of time

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Production too

deft agate
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I was stuck in 1942 with 1936 guns once

deft agate
dusky burrow
deft agate
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Ill try today again

heavy vigil
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1 on gun

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1 on production

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Just keep them there

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Dont research anything else

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Dont go 'oh no the production boost is in 1937 i have to do construction for my 2 civs'

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Just research the production

dusky burrow
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For Iran I didn't even research AA until after I defeated Greece

heavy vigil
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The penalty is not the end of the world

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Its better to just have more

deft agate
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Im in class after i finish for today ill try again

dusky burrow
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Yeah

deft agate
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Like i was in Seoul before i Got naval Invaded

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Also when do you get a White Peace offer from Japan

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Like why can't Hirohito just get CBTd into Surrendering nicebro

dusky burrow
deft agate
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Oh right

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I didn't get all of Korea

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I got Up to Seoul

grizzled zenith
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Guys is this a good template? If not, how can improve it?(Except adding support AA because I know about it I can't yet)

dusky burrow
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Do you only have basic equipment?

heavy vigil
grizzled zenith
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Also it's like 1938

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So no 2nd guns yet

heavy vigil
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Why did you research basic mediums

heavy vigil
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Youre supposed to have those in 38

grizzled zenith
dusky burrow
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BTW which nation is this

heavy vigil
grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
grizzled zenith
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They work against Belgium but improving the template will definitely help

heavy vigil
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You have the generic tree

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It gives you research bonuses for 39 gun, then the 2 techs after

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So you can get the 42 gun in late 39/early 40

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You just have to keep teching gun with a slot

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
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Guess I'll do that

heavy vigil
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Its why the generic tree is quite strong

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Cuz ur guns are really good

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And also like 900 weekly manpower and some eco ig

grizzled zenith
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But also I only have 2 research slots for most of the time

heavy vigil
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Well, 400 from tree

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Ok so what

grizzled zenith
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And I need to rush the industrial trss

heavy vigil
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Whats the issue

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Yes

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1 slot industry

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1 slot gun

grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
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Yeah i mean if you wanna do tanks

grizzled zenith
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I was just rushing tanks in my games

heavy vigil
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Thats a third/fourth slot tech

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Usually 2 on industry is nice but youll live

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And the tank slot is just

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Research interwars

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Then go to research either AA line (pretty good for tank guns tbh) artillery line or AT line

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And just ignore the other 2

grizzled zenith
grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
heavy vigil
dusky burrow
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"good enough"

heavy vigil
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It can fit a gun

grizzled zenith
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And also research good guns

dusky burrow
grizzled zenith
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They don't have air

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And France falls even like that

dusky burrow
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Against Germany

grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
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You get autocannons

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And also heavy guns if you wanna pivot to heavies when your factories > manpower

grizzled zenith
dusky burrow
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I mean you can, you get heavy cannon 3 if you go far enough

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heavy cannon 2 is mid-way through

heavy vigil
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When you have benelux and/or EU

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And you only need basic heavy tech for it so its not some massive tech youre behind on

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Like air is probably not viable

grizzled zenith
heavy vigil
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Unless you license

heavy vigil
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Not like early game