1.2k soft attack tank divs
#ask-for-help-here
uncut narwhal
fluid verge
they still use some armor tho
i saw some people go as far as making anti tank because of lategame crap
uncut narwhal
they still use some armor tho
ai tank divs dont have much
uncut narwhal
i saw some people go as far as making anti tank because of lategame crap
yea mega lategame the ai kinda gets armor
but spgs should be fine
fluid verge
i mean piercing their stuff is cancer
support anti air does fine for a very long time
but then very lategame it becomes awful
fluid verge
i mean if ur a small country idk what you can even do against them at that point
like do u actually build AT
cause youre either going to spec into airforce or tanks
with like 3 research slots
uncut narwhal
i mean if ur a small country idk what you can even do against them at that point
late game and small country?
fluid verge
well idk maybe mid 40s on non historical
fathom thistle
cause youre either going to spec into airforce or tanks
Line AA's no?
Like 2 or 3
fluid verge
even on lategame as a normal country what do you even do to pierce ai better
fluid verge
Line AA's no?
only for offensive divs?
vital plinth
@uncut narwhal what I lost in last 12 months all the battles were in Europe
fluid verge
i mean i usually just make very big mountaineers
and just use them
pure mountaineer battalions
like 34.2 whatever width
fathom thistle
only for offensive divs?
Yeah, or defnsive 9/2AA
fathom thistle
but honestly using 18w late game isnt that great
uncut narwhal
like 34.2 whatever width
36w is best
vital plinth
Any idea how the Allie’s and others still have 12 mio fielded in filed even after loosing 40 mio unlimited man power ?
uncut narwhal
but theyre 36 width basically
no, theyre 34.2w just add more so theyre 36.4w or whatever
hoary glen
Any idea how the Allie’s and others still have 12 mio fielded in filed even afte...
Soviets alone can probably mobilize around 40 million men and USA is I think around 25-30 million
hoary glen
True
Don't know about their famine Stuff but without it they should be able to get something ridiculous like 300 million
In short hoping to attrition your enemy by running him out of manpower is so WW1
vital plinth
Soviets alone can probably mobilize around 40 million men and USA is I think aro...
So relying on destroying enemy man power isnnt realistic?
keen hemlock
So relying on destroying enemy man power isnnt realistic?
Not as the axis
You can as the Allies tho
Usually Germany has like 5 million losses in the east
neat widget
Any idea how the Allie’s and others still have 12 mio fielded in filed even afte...
the allies probably have a combined more than 1 billion core population
errant chasm
hello liv, hello patrick
hoary glen
So relying on destroying enemy man power isnnt realistic?
If you can't break your enemy find single small weak points in the line and make small encirclements with good Divs. You'll whittle down your enemy slowly as the equipment loss of getting encircled is not well recoverable as long as you achieve it often enough.
hoary glen
hello liv, hello patrick
Hiiii
neat widget
that is basically my modus operandi
primal silo
Any idea how the Allie’s and others still have 12 mio fielded in filed even afte...
scraping the barrel is hell of a drug
neat widget
well the ai is probably on all adults serve
which is still most of the way there
The US starts out with 124 million core population (adding puerto rico, alaska, and hawaii), so at 20% they can take as many as 25 million casualties
and their core population will be increasing from natural growth, so by the time you've killed 6 million of them it's probably higher
with scraping the barrel that becomes 31 million or more
exhausting the entire us manpower pool is just not feasible
neat widget
so 30 million and 37 million respectively
primal silo
I don't think the historical AI gets the 2% one
keen hemlock
and although they ai doesnt do this, they can get 2.00% more and 20% factor more if they get a little bit of communist support
keen hemlock
I don't think the historical AI gets the 2% one
its at the start of the military tree
i could be wrong
hoary glen
The US starts out with 124 million core population (adding puerto rico, alaska, ...
Plus desperate defense and Women in the Army :D
neat widget
fair, but idk if us ai is picking desperate defense
hoary glen
Probably not
primal silo
its at the start of the military tree
ah, tought you meant the 2% pop from commie support
neat widget
and women in the army only works on total mobilization i think
so that's a non-factor
keen hemlock
yeah
is there a 20% factor one in the normal tree too or did i mix it up
and theres only one
wait i can check myself
okay i do have it wrong
irs mobilization speed
not factor
vital plinth
Can someone help me again I was told to make medium frames for naval bombers I’m loosing 10-15 of these everyday on port strike and barely doing any damage im very cl confused because was told this plane was to be used for destroying other naval
uncut narwhal
Can someone help me again I was told to make medium frames for naval bombers I’m...
please a screenshot of the full design
and just screenshot on your pc gng
vital plinth
Also why is there only 100 planes in the attack
vital plinth
please a screenshot of the full design
uncut narwhal
try just naval striking with them and not port striking
iron veldt
also what is the ideal range/speed for small fighters
vital plinth
try just naval striking with them and not port striking
Is port strike bad ?
uncut narwhal
also what is the ideal range/speed for small fighters
this if you dont have the range mio
im not sure if there are like actual ideal numbers
iron veldt
is this decent
uncut narwhal
is this decent
no bromite
too much engine
too much armor
why cannon?
ai tanks are horrible
dont use man
use henschel
make it spg
why sloped armor
no need
use howitzer instead
also take the armor that makes it cheaper
forgot the name mb
hoary glen
Can someone help me again I was told to make medium frames for naval bombers I’m...
Can you please show the efficiency of those planes? Do they have full range and full supply?
uncut narwhal
@iron veldt this is what i usually have by war start
celest vale
where is guderian and rommel in germann faction why i dont see them anymore .... just quit game 2 years
uncut narwhal
where is guderian and rommel in germann faction why i dont see them anymore .......
"Adopt New Panzer Doctrine" focus all the way to the left
uncut narwhal
you dont need the speed suspension, use henschel for design mio and go to 4 armor clicks
iron veldt
thank you
junior light
Is the submarine detection glitch fixed with the new update
iron veldt
also whats your tank division?
uncut narwhal
why is org so low?
iron veldt
i’m not sure
uncut narwhal
i’m not sure
doctrines?
also add flame tanks
and replace support aa with light tank recon
as germany you should have full green air
iron veldt
armor spearhead, assault infantry, mission type tactics & field engineering
uncut narwhal
this is a tank division i used
lofty ravine
chat can i beat japan as korea
iron veldt
as germany you should have full green air
true
lofty ravine
16 factories in 1940
uncut narwhal
armor spearhead, assault infantry, mission type tactics & field engineering
mission type tactics?
brooo
noo
grand assault
and most important
spg doctrine
gng
vital plinth
@hoary glen here
uncut narwhal
also individual excellence
lofty ravine
i wanted a meme run where i play as kim il sung
i feel like i could beat japan by paradrop
except i have 5 mils
and 9 civs
lofty ravine
and 30 transports rn
uncut narwhal
<@185404741596086273> here
getting shot down by aa
cant do anything against that iirc
iron veldt
i don’t have NCNS so i don’t have the first 2 unfortunately
uncut narwhal
i don’t have NCNS so i don’t have the first 2 unfortunately
ahhhh
ok thats not that great
i dont know how spg tanks behave without doctrine
still insane soft
just add 2 more mech
to make it 36w
iron veldt
what’s your flame tank template
iron veldt
😭😭😭
uncut narwhal
let me start it rq
iron veldt
iron veldt
i’m so bad at tank designs & shit
uncut narwhal
i’m so bad at tank designs & shit
nah its ok
iron veldt
good he medium ?
uncut narwhal
good he medium ?
always medium
vital plinth
<@185404741596086273> here
But also there is a sea zone inbetween I don’t know if that matters ?
uncut narwhal
But also there is a sea zone inbetween I don’t know if that matters ?
no its the aa in the uk
that will always shoot you down
no matter what you do
only goes away
if you bomb the aa
iron veldt
and replace support aa with light tank recon
what about your light tank recon
meager pier
can someone tell me why my hoi4 keeps crashing as soon as i start the time
wild rune
decent early game ig
uncut narwhal
can someone tell me why my hoi4 keeps crashing as soon as i start the time
any mods? did you verify your files yet?
uncut narwhal
decent early game ig
yea only ss i had
otherwise youd add stabilizers and just breakthrough max
wild rune
You do the same with lights for armored recon
uncut narwhal
You do the same with lights for armored recon
yep
sometimes i add a dozer blade to them
no idea if it actually helps defending
for inf bricks
wild rune
idk
iron veldt
as the flame tank ?
uncut narwhal
as the flame tank ?
just get the most breakthrough
austere roost
that's pretty expensive
if you can fill your divisions with it then sure you can do that but if you have ic constraints then just build a cheaper tank
meager pier
any mods? did you verify your files yet?
I have mods only 5 enabled spot opt fix fps map stop ai kick from faction undeletable divisions
How do i verify game files
uncut narwhal
this doesn’t feel right
Yea very expensive but works
iron veldt
switched out the stabilizers for ammunition storages
uncut narwhal
I have mods only 5 enabled spot opt fix fps map stop ai kick from faction undele...
Disable all and go to steam and then properties
meager pier
this doesn’t feel right
Up speed that shi so slow
meager pier
Disable all and go to steam and then properties
Mhm?
iron veldt
it’s going into an SPG division though
uncut narwhal
Up speed that shi so slow
Don't matter
glacial steeple
uncut narwhal
Okay next?
Right click on hoi in steam and go to properties and to files and then verify
iron veldt
meager pier
Right click on hoi in steam and go to properties and to files and then verify
Thats it?
meager pier
Yea then restart hoi and hope
Oh yh btw sm1 said that you can see why the game crashes and also how do i know what mods csuse issues
meager pier
Org a bit low tbh
Yh 30 atleast tbh
uncut narwhal
Oh yh btw sm1 said that you can see why the game crashes and also how do i know ...
Maybe ask in #tech-support idk
iron veldt
should go up once my doctrines fill in
uncut narwhal
should go up once my doctrines fill in
If you get deorged too quick replace 2 tanks with mech
celest vale
research heraeus tree requirement 50 civi factory to research and i already have 51 but i cant research that tree any can tell me why ?
uncut narwhal
research heraeus tree requirement 50 civi factory to research and i already hav...
Probably those factories are from trade
Go down to the price reduction focus
Those civs solve it for me after anschluss
meager pier
If you get deorged too quick replace 2 tanks with mech
Yo yk as romania i start out with literally nothing, should i use my starting army to roll hungary then switch to a 10/2?
uncut narwhal
Yo yk as romania i start out with literally nothing, should i use my starting ar...
Never line arty gng
meager pier
Never line arty gng
What then as a filler
uncut narwhal
Try getting tanks or if not doable 36w mtns
meager pier
Try getting tanks or if not doable 36w mtns
I have like nothing at the start tho
uncut narwhal
I have like nothing at the start tho
Just use 18w inf then
iron veldt
only terrorists use line artillery
meager pier
Just use 18w inf then
Is line arty shit bc it reduces org or is there smth else?
uncut narwhal
Try getting 36w sf tho
celest vale
Those civs solve it for me after anschluss
i stuck with anschluss too they dont let me research
uncut narwhal
Is line arty shit bc it reduces org or is there smth else?
Less hp than inf would give so more losses
uncut narwhal
i stuck with anschluss too they dont let me research
Day one train 22 divs with 18 mils on guns
1st of may anschluss focus
celest vale
Day one train 22 divs with 18 mils on guns
the third requiment i really dont understand
meager pier
Try getting 36w sf tho
Alr so what should my div template be after i roll hungary so i can invade greece?
uncut narwhal
Alr so what should my div template be after i roll hungary so i can invade greec...
36w special forces I'd go for
meager pier
the third requiment i really dont understand
Your army should have 24x more divisions/manpower on field thst austria
uncut narwhal
the third requiment i really dont understand
Your army 24 times bigger than austrias
meager pier
36w special forces I'd go for
Wb the div itself what should it consist?
I want something manageable till i invade czechslovakia
uncut narwhal
Wb the div itself what should it consist?
Mountaineers prob
Do as many mountaineers
Fill the rest with inf
uncut narwhal
Wb the special ops points or wtv it is
Special forces cap
meager pier
Yh
uncut narwhal
Oh last thing should i para france after the war starts?
If you can somehow get green air
I'd focus on mtns tho
meager pier
Don't forget flame tanks and aa
How do you even get flame tanks as romania
Cant get a scientist
celest vale
Your army 24 times bigger than austrias
how much i need more can you tell me ?
uncut narwhal
How do you even get flame tanks as romania
Build a facility gng
meager pier
Don't forget flame tanks and aa
Support aa yes?
uncut narwhal
how much i need more can you tell me ?
No not really, restart and do what I told you, 1936 anschluss
celest vale
No not really, restart and do what I told you, 1936 anschluss
ohhhhhhhh
uncut narwhal
So idk how to research the special project
Build facility and them scientist and then wait for breakthrough point
meager pier
Build facility and them scientist and then wait for breakthrough point
Alr
Thx
Ill do trial and error from now on
uncut narwhal
Support aa yes?
Maybe even line if the ai has a lot of air
meager pier
Like what i should do after the territory focuses
uncut narwhal
Like what i should do after the territory focuses
Save your game and start a Soviet run
meager pier
Save your game and start a Soviet run
Idfk how to load a game it only says continue or load latest game
Like 9ld
Old
uncut narwhal
Idfk how to load a game it only says continue or load latest game
Brother
Your first day on the job?
If your in game
Press esc
Then save game
And save
serene karma
Your first day on the job?
Its my first day on the job too
vital plinth
It’s very hard to destroy navry wtf
Takes ages to do port strike
With naval bombers when I use land based bomber
hoary glen
<@185404741596086273> here
you have 55% efficiency. That's terrible.
hoary glen
But also there is a sea zone inbetween I don’t know if that matters ?
No it's bc UK has max State AA. You want to bomb that with Strats and Tacs first.
left glacier
wild rune
Its my first day on the job too<:nicebro:1054028891968253963>
At what type of facility?
final estuary
Can someone explain Navy to me
I suck at it and I'm doing a really interesting run that requires a lot of navy
vital geode
Can someone explain Navy to me
You got capitals and screens
Capitals are your carriers, battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, and coastal defense ships.
Screens are your light cruisers and destroyers.
Subs are their own thing and you use them to raid convoys.
Screens protect capitals, capitals protect the carriers.
3 Screens minimum to defend a capital, 1 capital to defend a carrier minimum.
Patrol to gain dominance
Convoy raid to reduce enemy dominance
Strike force to multiply your existing dominance.
Focus on making light cruisers with high amounts of light attack. They will vaporize enemy screens allowing you to kill the capitals with torpedoes or your other capital ships
final estuary
Ahhh
vital geode
Keep your subs in a separate fleet from your surface ships
keen hemlock
You got capitals and screens
Capitals are your carriers, battleships, battlecru...
there are also support and repair ships
final estuary
do I have to pay someone for a response ?
I think what you can do is improve relations while boosting popularity
If you haven't done that alr
wind canyon
do I have to pay someone for a response ?
i think bosting commie popularity will help but not 100% on that
scenic nacelle
Its my first day on the job too<:nicebro:1054028891968253963>
U got a j*b?
celest vale
what designer i should pick for medium tank
wind canyon
what designer i should pick for medium tank
depends on what your looking for
speed? less cost? more power?
celest vale
speed? less cost? more power?
i dont think germann need less cost so maybe speed and more power ?
wind canyon
i dont think germann need less cost so maybe speed and more power ?
then chose the desiner that gives you more power and or speed as i said its all dependent on what your trying to go for
sand ember
what designer i should pick for medium tank
Infantry tank designer
What is it henschel? They’re the best
dusty sandal
what designer i should pick for medium tank
always henschel for production (SPG mio is good too if you have relevant upgrades) and damler or, better yet, skoda as production MIO
errant chasm
what designer i should pick for medium tank
Anything but Man imao
scenic nacelle
Anything but Man imao
Man that’s crazy
errant chasm
Man that’s crazy
good one man
astral heath
how do i fix this?
wild rune
how do i fix this?
more conquest
astral heath
more conquest
how?
visual yacht
how do i fix this?
Did you convert all your civs to mils lol
astral heath
Did you convert all your civs to mils lol
i think i accidnely did
visual yacht
With your 127 civs (a lot from trade) youd need to get down to 15% consumer goods.. gl
Interested to see how you get out of that without destroying mils
There is the war bonds decision thats -20% but idk if thats of total or 20% of your currently required, never taken it
keen hemlock
where would i find statistics for what the ai does when you send them a decison, specifcally the hispanic empire decisons?
serene karma
U got a j*b?
/j
serene karma
At what type of facility?
Ok well technically a military facility
It was a joke but sure
wild rune
Wild
bitter tiger
can anyone help me
visual yacht
<@&846894118219022336>
vital geode
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1450313863059869777/im...
Absolutely cursed marine design, but i didn't expect to see a +49% amphibious attack from that
errant chasm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1450323807620300820/im...
would 30 width be better for a forest division?
visual yacht
Absolutely cursed marine design, but i didn't expect to see a +49% amphibious at...
Pioneers op for it
visual yacht
would 30 width be better for a forest division?
Curious about widths as well, why wouldnt you go 38 widths for 60 width terrain if youre already going for 36, (60+30)*1.33 can fit 3 units of 39.9 width. From what i understand theres no reason to go 36?
keen hemlock
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1450313863059869777/im...
why are there only so many marines
also
howe many marine commandos do you need to make a division be able to retreat from anywhere
visual yacht
For the same 2 adjacent tile attack, it can fit 4 if theyre 29.9 width, but a 1:1 attack needs 26.6 so isnt 26 width ideal?
versed rose
why are there only so many marines
amphibious bonus caps out at 50%, no reason to add more marines when you reach the cap
keen hemlock
ah
keen hemlock
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096634574353735771/145031335487786600...
What is the at for
Also
Should I use amtracks over mech there
Actually
3rd question
Why do I see line support companies in marine divs a lot
Why is that
steady knoll
this game is mad confusing
im doing tutorial how do i make italy lead by bordiga
or gramsci
obtuse crescent
this game is mad confusing
Say wallahi
serene karma
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096634574353735771/1450315815697121300/image.png?ex=69f16edc&is=69f01d5c&hm=14a9e5b1e95a9ad1f978b61e5e3dc80de166dbd1e0ddbaa92993997de1f51ed8
replace the two anti tank with one forest pioneer
steady knoll
Say wallahi
help me
serene karma
im doing tutorial how do i make italy lead by bordiga
wdym
dense flicker
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096634574353735771/1450315815697121300/i...
I recomend to put 1 artillery
dense flicker
Ok
dense flicker
Ok
serene karma
what do i do to make italy flip from fascist to communist
use ur focus tree
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096634574353735771/1450315815697121300/image.png?ex=69f16edc&is=69f01d5c&hm=14a9e5b1e95a9ad1f978b61e5e3dc80de166dbd1e0ddbaa92993997de1f51ed8
replace the two anti tank with one forest pioneer
neat widget
would 30 width be better for a forest division?
more stats more losses per battle less hp essentially
visual yacht
more stats more losses per battle less hp essentially
Why 36 and not 38
neat widget
to be fair these templates were made before 38-width templates were that common
visual yacht
Terrain widths havent changed since the new widths i think, just wondering why 36 was standard to begin with
But youre saying 38 IS common? Ive only seen people push for 36 but may be confirmation bias
versed rose
people saying 36 are stuck in pre ncns
neat widget
But youre saying 38 IS common? Ive only seen people push for 36 but may be confi...
38 is common for high stats units like tanks where you can sacrifice like 2-3 percent of soft attack and breakthrough for more survivability
36 is common on plains tiles for stats maxxing i gather because the ideal would be 35 but yeah
rustic sparrow
Hi guys
neat widget
I don't fully understand the nuances here
neat widget
I've seen 34 done for some reason in asian tiles for some reason
rustic sparrow
Which months
neat widget
Which months
doesn't really matter, but you should probably do it in late may early june i say
rustic sparrow
doesn't really matter, but you should probably do it in late may early june i sa...
I see
Is 1942 alright
Cuz I’m tryna take over USA rn
It’s 1941 May
By the time I finish it’s gna be October ish
Probably too late to attack ussr right
Should I wait?
neat widget
Is 1942 alright
yeah the ussr still suffers debuffs
and if you literally have the us
it really does not matter
visual yacht
36 is common on plains tiles for stats maxxing i gather because the ideal would ...
Yeah i dont get that either, from what i gather max division in combat for tanks on plains is 34 width, unless the exceeding combat width oebalty isnt a linear scaling?
(70+35)*1.33 = 139. Can fit 4x 34w tanks in that sucker
neat widget
Yeah i dont get that either, from what i gather max division in combat for tanks...
maximum combat width for tanks in plains is actually, uh... 46.5 width
visual yacht
But only 3 36w tanks
neat widget
(70+35)*1.33 = 139. Can fit 4x 34w tanks in that sucker
that might be part of it, idk
serene karma
people saying 36 are stuck in pre ncns
wdym
neat widget
that said, typically the calculations are attacking one tile versus one tile because that's like at least around half of micro cases
visual yacht
Yeah i dont get that either, from what i gather max division in combat for tanks...
@austere roost could you help me understand why 34w isnt ideal tank design for plains?
neat widget
wdym
there are multiplayer builds where people would do tanks or even special forces with more than 36 width, leveraging the fact that they still fit into forests below 39.9 width but they have more HP
the trade off is of course less soft attack, defense, and breakthrough
final estuary
I'm doing some weird ass Singapore run am I insane
visual yacht
that said, typically the calculations are attacking one tile versus one tile bec...
Then we're back to the point of why do we stop at 36 XD, why not go up to 38 or even 40
serene karma
I'm doing some weird ass Singapore run am I insane
what mod
austere roost
<@320861597020979202> could you help me understand why 34w isnt ideal tank desig...
Technically "ideal" is 35 but it's difficult to get 35 so ppl just do 36
serene karma
oh
austere roost
Like at that point you might as well just create templates for different terrain
Like 32 for desert
visual yacht
Technically "ideal" is 35 but it's difficult to get 35 so ppl just do 36
Is that because max "exceeding width" penalty isnt worth it? Isnt ideal width 34.9
final estuary
I took over Malaya and kinda forgot to do navy
visual yacht
neat widget
Like 32 for desert
nope, desert is plains combat width
32 would be for marshes and mountains
austere roost
nope, desert is plains combat width
Wait then why did I hear that for North Africa you should do 32
neat widget
Wait then why did I hear that for North Africa you should do 32
because there's mountains in north africa
austere roost
Is that because max "exceeding width" penalty isnt worth it? Isnt ideal width 3...
You lose linear percentage of atk for every extra percentage of combat width capped at 33%
neat widget
Keep in mind as your division grows, it also gains stats, so a max-width division only 10.89% less stats than a division at optimal width for stats
neat widget
because there's mountains in north africa
Morocco and Algeria are largely mountains, and Cyrenaica has mountains in the most critical places like Tobruk and around Benghazi
austere roost
Yeah but 35 as "ideal" is also because it allows you to put more divisions in battle on multi-direction attacks in non plain terrain
If you go 40+ width fighting in rough terrain will be weird
inner sparrow
the humble 50w marsh deleter
neat widget
the humble 50w marsh deleter
i mean that's probably true tbh
inner sparrow
it is, got used in a few games on rb
neat widget
doubt it would be that good elsewhere
inner sparrow
for africa too as ger
serene karma
oh clown ur here
i need some help with templates
im redoing the pins
esp with all the game changes recently
pls help thxx
inner sparrow
what templates specifically
neat widget
it is, got used in a few games on rb
people must really hate marshes
serene karma
what templates specifically
whats the new mass mob brick
inner sparrow
for big inf its still just 36w
nothing changed there
small one this
but in sp u can add support arty
neat widget
I imagine to start we need a tank division, some defensive infantry divisions, and offensive special forces divisions
also we should probably do singleplayer for pins here
inner sparrow
yeah inf designs don’t really change from mp to sp
just add in support arty instead of signals or engi
serene karma
for big inf its still just 36w
but is there a mass mob type of doctrine now
inner sparrow
but is there a mass mob type of doctrine now
sfp
serene karma
i havent really played the game recently tbh
neat widget
just add in support arty instead of signals or engi
fair, although i might take away both signals and engineers here
inner sparrow
does it still offer the hp and cw reduction
no, cw reduction is from large unit tactics
serene karma
also we should probably do singleplayer for pins here
i do focus on singleplayer
inner sparrow
reinforce rate isn’t really a thing u get from doctrines
neat widget
i do focus on singleplayer
yeah that note was meant for clown the art because they posted an mp template
inner sparrow
reinforce rate isn’t really a thing u get from doctrines
compared to old mm
serene karma
no, cw reduction is from large unit tactics
just to check some of the subdoctrines are locked to a specific grand doctrine right
serene karma
compared to old mm
aw
neat widget
for big inf its still just 36w
heard that some on rb were doing 22/0 mountaineers (or 39.6 width) for whatever reason
inner sparrow
just to check some of the subdoctrines are locked to a specific grand doctrine r...
I don’t think so no
serene karma
I don’t think so no
oh
neat widget
just to check some of the subdoctrines are locked to a specific grand doctrine r...
no
serene karma
is there a guide for each of the doctrines i can post
inner sparrow
don’t think so
visual yacht
You lose linear percentage of atk for every extra percentage of combat width cap...
Right ok, i was under the assumption that its worth exceeding the width as the extra division makes up for the penalty. Doing the math now at my desk i can see this is only true if total divisions in combat is <4
serene karma
havent played around in the new patch to be experienced enough
serene karma
theres some doctrines that are clearly better
ig some of the doctrine stats are clear enough
versed rose
is there a guide for each of the doctrines i can post
think either Casey or foxsy, cant remember, made one for Operations Subdoctrines a while back
inner sparrow
ig some of the doctrine stats are clear enough
also if u post certain templates u can make the doctrines in the background
like this
neat widget
Yeah that's a good idea
serene karma
is there anything bad about the guides/templates in pins rn
like to teach a beginner
that i should fix rn
neat widget
is there anything bad about the guides/templates in pins rn
Well doctrines are more important and more varied these days, so I did agree with clown's advice that it is useful posting doctrines as well
serene karma
Well doctrines are more important and more varied these days, so I did agree wit...
i dont really have the time or familiarity of the new doctrines to do so rn tho
final estuary
oh nice same
Wait actually
serene karma
Wait actually
hoi4 has a playerbase in there too btw
final estuary
hoi4 has a playerbase in there too btw
Yea ik but like idk any
serene karma
anyways isnt it like sch time rn
final estuary
anyways isnt it like sch time rn
No no I just got out
serene karma
wow thats early
serene karma
No no I just got out
which sch
serene karma
oh that one
final estuary
oh that one
Huh
final estuary
they say its not bad
Sch look quite nice I have no comment on the students tho
Behaviour kinda questionable at times
stiff meteor
How to fix the bug where it only says states numbers like state 617 and not its actually name?
keen bridge
is this good? it got 36w
serene karma
How to fix the bug where it only says states numbers like state 617 and not its ...
What mod are u using
stiff meteor
What mod are u using
Its not a mod thing it doesnt even when i turn off all my mods
serene karma
Plus why a horse div
keen bridge
Plus why a horse div
playing poland
serene karma
Its not a mod thing it doesnt even when i turn off all my mods
What language is ur system/steam
stiff meteor
What language is ur system/steam
English
serene karma
English
Verify file integrity
Then if it still doesnt work manually clear cache
Check pins in #tech-support for how
stiff meteor
Okey doey thnks
final estuary
yo can i integrate occupied territories
dusty sandal
yo can i integrate occupied territories
Only throughspecific focuses and decisions
glacial steeple
i need that manpower
build compliance
robust hemlock
idk any units i use only infantry
cold bloom
@robust hemlockNo uncensored nazi symbols please
gleaming grove
at least get support artillery and support Anti Air in
tiny dawn
hoary glen
is this good? it got 36w
In the Pins you can find all the templates you'll ever need
dreamy egret
Why did trotsky chose Leningrad as new capital?
kindred sonnet
Okay so i may be stupid but for naval stuff would it be best to just take other countries navy or build up a death stack, kill the opponent navy then do an easy naval invade?
kindred sonnet
Add some arty or anti-air in
You would want some support companies too
That aside build trains and trucks
hoary glen
Okay so i may be stupid but for naval stuff would it be best to just take other ...
Deathstack is always the answer and if you can take a navy in a peace deal do so, but don't like spare it and prolong the war for it
native gorge
What are the best DLCS from top to bottom?
Right now I got AAT and NSB
hoary glen
If you like spy stuff grab La Resistance and if you like Wunderwaffen grab Götterdämmerung, most other DLCs are country flavour for the nations you like to play.
kindred sonnet
What are the best DLCS from top to bottom?
Right now I got AAT and NSB
Try to search up dlcs with new mechanics that you want i think
Or country flavors
Depends on what you like
native gorge
If you like spy stuff grab La Resistance and if you like Wunderwaffen grab Götte...
Gotcha
Also what's a death stack for the navy? Never heard of that before
kindred sonnet
Light cruisers spam with light attack focus
native gorge
Ahhh
kindred sonnet
That was the death stack last i played
hoary glen
Gotcha
Also what's a death stack for the navy? Never heard of *that* before
All ships except subs as one Fleet. The AI splits their ships hard, so you win every battle.
kindred sonnet
Havent really done navy stuff much
hoary glen
Also the game Navy Mechanics are made in a way that the biggest fleet always wins
So as long as yours is the biggest you will win every time
kindred sonnet
Ahhh
Though one thing is that building navy kinda hinges on you already have things to spare for it
I mainly prioritize convoy for trade when i play small nations
But if you have huge indstry an investment in naval isnt a bad idea
half glade
how do i actually beat the germans
i have 250 hours
and ive realised
ive never beaten the germans by myself
i always do it with 5+ allies
and end up getting like 5% warscore
so i wanna change that and actually win by myself for once
where do i even start
kindred sonnet
where do i even start
Im not a veteran but is your templates good?
half glade
i mean thats probably 1 of the problems
kindred sonnet
Do you have like supply to make sure your division keep fighting?
half glade
only if its got a green tick
kindred sonnet
Do you have like an industry that can help you fight with the germans?
And the rest of the axis?
half glade
industry can be difficult
wait let me choose a nation to play
who should i pick to fight the germans
kindred sonnet
France is also fine, but they kinda do turtle play and let allied mob ger up
half glade
but i just hate the start for the soviets because its so boring
kindred sonnet
I see people play hungary or austria to form au-hun empire
Though its probably take more skills
They could be a contender for beating up germany
Romania is also an option
They have a river line that can grind germany down
half glade
romania could be fun but there isnt a direct frontline
so wont i just get no warscore from capturing
actually poland has a frontline with romania
okay ill do romania
dusty sandal
i literally lose all my advisors
You just have to sacrifice the navy twice or forge reports while doing the purges on time to avoid that
half glade
i try to rush it but i still seem to lose SO much
what do i need to beat the germans then
as romania
kindred sonnet
okay ill do romania
Its actually one of the simpler trees i feel without being bogged down
half glade
should i try space marines
kindred sonnet
Sure space marine is good
Though you have to rush quite a bit
As you might be in a pickle with both soviet and germany
half glade
i mean i like to know what tech i want so i can focus on it
should i use medium and light spaa?
idk whats better really
i actually start with decent tank tech as romania
light and medium basics reseached
dusty sandal
You mean interwar
half glade
yeah those ones
kindred sonnet
i actually start with decent tank tech as romania
You should probably like deal with the ussr first
half glade
how do i do that
kindred sonnet
After the threat done you can turn to the axis
kindred sonnet
how do i do that
Dont worry they will invade you
half glade
okay, im doing balkans dominance focus cause i feel that will give me more industry
kindred sonnet
So you have to deal with then
You are not strong enough for a three front wars agaisnt soviet and axis
So best to just deal with them piecewise
half glade
okay ill deal with soviets first
what space marines template should i use
oh yeah and what do i do about these events cause they suck
half glade
alright ill do that soon
i just dont want the allies getting like 90% warscore
cause its just so boring
kindred sonnet
If you do well agaisnt the ussr you might have an exremely strong germany
So you probably gonna have a good chunk of wsc after the war
dusty sandal
9inf
1 tank
Support arty, superheavy howitzer (replaces sup logi/engineers), hospital, aa (light tank recon if you use spaa) and medium flame tank
Stack breakthrough on light tank recon and medium ft, stack armor on front tank then either breakthrough (medium tank/spaa) or soft attack (spg)
half glade
alright
half glade
9inf
1 tank
Support arty, superheavy howitzer (replaces sup logi/engineers), ho...
light spaa or medium spaa?
dusty sandal
Doctrines are GBP, assault inf, siege arty, depends on the tank used, grand assault
dusty sandal
light spaa or medium spaa?
Medium for space marines
half glade
okay ill do that
dusty sandal
Don't produce interwar chassis and rush gun techs (1940 gun should be unlocked in mid 1938)
half glade
yeah im not doing interwar
kindred sonnet
Also be careful since the region its very mountainous
half glade
i wanna fix my guns deficit
kindred sonnet
You might get stuck a bit
dusty sandal
Also be careful since the region its very mountainous
The only issue with that would be attrtion with SpM
kindred sonnet
Yeah i mean the first war
dusty sandal
Your frontline tank must have at bare minimum 60 armor btw
kindred sonnet
Since they probably dont have enough to build spmr yet
half glade
should i join anticomintern
kindred sonnet
Yeah
half glade
Your frontline tank must have at bare minimum 60 armor btw
yes i remember this from yesterday
kindred sonnet
Since well the soviet will come and beat you up anyway
native gorge
Are amtracs any good?
dusty sandal
Are amtracs any good?
Very good but quite expensive
vital plinth
Does vanilla mod AI make navry work better or more competitive ?
Also was told to use 1-2 cruisers for baiting their strike fleet out but I cant disengage after I start battle and on not engage their navry doesn’t come out
hoary glen
Does vanilla mod AI make navry work better or more competitive ?
mod link?
hoary glen
Also was told to use 1-2 cruisers for baiting their strike fleet out but I cant ...
Just patrol with the full stack. If the enemy ignores just Naval Invade him and Cap him
half glade
Doctrines are GBP, assault inf, siege arty, depends on the tank used, grand assa...
which doctrine for armour if im using med spaa
dusty sandal
steamlined i think, the one that gives 20% brk to armor variants
half glade
steamlined i think, the one that gives 20% brk to armor variants
armoured spearhead?
dusty sandal
might be
half glade
dusty sandal
yup, that's the one
dusty sandal
don't forget 1 mil on trains
half glade
don't forget 1 mil on trains
bro the ussr have caught me off guard in greece
do i just give up bessarabia
glacial steeple
don't forget 1 mil on trains
its so expensive..
glacial steeple
do i just let them run their manpower down?
depends on how well youre trading manpower wise
half glade
depends on how well youre trading manpower wise
ive lost 85k
glacial steeple
ive lost 85k
okay so
its about like the k/d
and equipment losses
if you kept it up, would you live longer than them?
also are there opportunities to attack weak tiles?
half glade
also are there opportunities to attack weak tiles?
well theyre pretty heavily concentrated across the entire frontline
theyve hit 1.3m losses and ive hit 95k
if we exclude finland ive killed 989k
glacial steeple
well theyre pretty heavily concentrated across the entire frontline
not really
a lot of them are half strenght
half glade
im at about 10kd
glacial steeple
theres so much weakness in their front
half glade
a lot of them are half strenght
i could try push with my space marines??
maybe i can encircle some things
glacial steeple
i could try push with my space marines??
balta, down south, pin down like 30 guys and try to encircle
i cant read how much they have
but it looks weak
what space marines are you making
are they good or garbage
half glade
are they good or garbage
theyre okay i think
glacial steeple
theyre okay i think
show
glacial steeple
theyre really low hp and wont crit
half glade
im not ever going to make a good unit
glacial steeple
i get told to make these then somebody else tells me there bad
well yeah its a common unit to make because you "add armor to infantry"
which is not the only stat that matters
half glade
half glade
well yeah its a common unit to make because you "add armor to infantry"
i cant make spg its too expensive
glacial steeple
i like these for space marines
glacial steeple
i cant make spg its too expensive
okay but you dont have to
half glade
bro its special forces
glacial steeple
yes
glacial steeple
and i have no special forces tech so
you have mountaineer
they just deal more attack
especially with special forces docyrine
mountaineer should be easy to get
hoary glen
i get told to make these then somebody else tells me there bad
Try them out and find out that most likely both are good enough to beat the AI
glacial steeple
not whatever tank you have there
TD
vital plinth
Just patrol with the full stack. If the enemy ignores just Naval Invade him and ...
I want to destroy the navry for fun 😅 but shoudl strike force come out even if I set my patrol on not engage ?
frosty olive
are 9/1s worth it for czechoslovakia
glacial steeple
Do you have to use tds
its so you have piercing, but you can use spgs if you want
especially for the chinese one
keen hemlock
Ah
Ty
In my Czech facist run I used 18 width with 1 spg and those crushed everything
timber jewel
Unrelated question: Does it make sense to bleed a country out if your casualty rate is like 20 times lower or even lower?
celest vale
i like these for space marines
How to stop low supply for tank my tanker alway supply in 32% and they even cant beat infantry
timber jewel
How to stop low supply for tank my tanker alway supply in 32% and they even cant...
you can just retreat most of your troups and have the rest hold the line I think
worked for me in Ethiopia before 🤷
glacial steeple
How to stop low supply for tank my tanker alway supply in 32% and they even cant...
dont use them in bad supply lol
also get better generals
planning bonus
a lot of stuff
tanks without battle modifiers are mid at best
timber jewel
planning bonus
horse icon :3
timber jewel
Unrelated question: Does it make sense to bleed a country out if your casualty r...
to add to this:
red mesa
in the case of big countries, no
bleeding nations of manpower only works on ones with small overall pools
germany can sustain over 20m
poland can take a lot less
maybe 5-10
timber jewel
just wondering because I'm slaughtering the Poles, but not making gains, and I don't know if I should make my move since our forces are about equal
I do have near complete air superiority and strategic bombing efficiency
red mesa
then you don't have equal forces and can melt them
air power is all you need
just pinch off their front between torun and lodz then mop up
frosty olive
should i invade austria as czechoslovakia before germany anschlusses?
jovial wigeon
What does 9/0 mean
jovial wigeon
thanks
keen hemlock
just wondering because I'm slaughtering the Poles, but not making gains, and I d...
You will get some factories sooner if you invade
Plus reduce your economy of conquest
If you did that over peg
kindred sonnet
ive also been making spaa
Also very late but these templates are not like army wide
You shouldnt try to make like 24 divs of these templates
Try having like 10
wise dew
does the befriend turkey focus as italy allow you to puppet turkey or just add them to an alliance?
kindred sonnet
How to stop low supply for tank my tanker alway supply in 32% and they even cant...
You mean like 32% fuel or like supply? If its the former you just have to save up or capture regions with oil. If its later build supply hubs, make sure the army is probably motorized supply and make sure theres enough trains/trucks/convoys/airplanes to supply.
Aim to capture the enemy supply hubs and hold it down before connecting it to your other supply hubs
It could greatly boost your troops while hampers your enemies
In regions where supply hubs are rare youre just kinda screwed and have to make do
timber jewel
You will get some factories sooner if you invade
well, I did conquer poland now
and it was too easy xD
uncut narwhal
I find that my hoi4 can't run mods
you added the mod into a new playset and then selected it?
final estuary
TNO seems fire
fathom thistle
are they based on real pictures ?
kinda but they are alt historical
fathom thistle
where did they get these images ?
for example the original photo of this was german command not allied one
warm lava
any tip to invade ussr as germany starting on 1939?
vital plinth
Also you patrol on always engange
If I want to destroy the navry best with my land bombers I should sacrifice my destroyers on patrol to hit their big fleets that come out v
scenic light
i wanna play endsieg but i dont see a 1.12.2 beta version, any fix?
marsh trench
How do I take over britain as italy?
Do I naval invade or paratroop?
And should I make tanks as italy?
keen hemlock
If I want to destroy the navry best with my land bombers I should sacrifice my d...
no
just use spotting cruisers
lament mason
when im playing iraq can I strengthen the golden square and still get down to al andalus?
vital plinth
just use spotting cruisers
But should they be set on engage or not engage ?
If I set on not engage their strike fleet don’t come out
marsh trench
Why the hell is italy's industry so bad? Should I start with building civs or infrastructure?
keen hemlock
But should they be set on engage or not engage ?
No engage
Just spot them so your navs attack
keen hemlock
Why the hell is italy's industry so bad? Should I start with building civs or in...
Civs
keen hemlock
But Italy was under developed compared to the other majors
If you wanna do space marines you can
marsh trench
But Italy was under developed compared to the other majors
Yeah, but I just wanna take over britian, but idk how, I suck as italy
keen hemlock
But you are gonna need medium for flame tank
scenic nacelle
Why the hell is italy's industry so bad? Should I start with building civs or in...
They were 75 years old by 1936
Bad natural resources
vital plinth
Just spot them so your navs attack
I have small navry so I need to find their strike fleet and bomb them portstrike don’t do much
hoary glen
If I want to destroy the navry best with my land bombers I should sacrifice my d...
Just kill it with your destroyers
marsh trench
Is it going to be hard for me to take over britian as italy?
And whats the best way to do it?
Naval invasion?
And how do I build up the industry fast?
hoary glen
but yeah, your Navs will kill any Fleet
keen hemlock
I have small navry so I need to find their strike fleet and bomb them portstrike...
That’s what the spotting cruisers are for
hoary glen
Also if it's UK convoy raid to death
lament mason
is this bugged
keen hemlock
is this bugged
You need to be in a faction
lament mason
oh yea true
keen hemlock
The saadabad pact is kinda weird
lament mason
saadabad pact is not a faction huh
keen hemlock
It’s not like the shared Nordic tree
lament mason
The saadabad pact is kinda weird
its pretty good tho ngl
when do I get the event for abd al ilah to take over?
vital plinth
That’s what the spotting cruisers are for
Yeah but they only spot and if I don’t set then to enhance the enemy strike fleet doesn’t come out to fight
light knoll
its pretty good tho ngl
its pretty good until you realize that as as any member of the pact your expansion routes include attacking other members and losing all of the buffs
keen hemlock
Yeah but they only spot and if I don’t set then to enhance the enemy strike flee...
Then you gotta port strike ig
lament mason
its pretty good until you realize that as as any member of the pact your expansi...
well al andalus iraq doesnt
vital plinth
Then you gotta port strike ig
Bro now you me confused me 😂
keen hemlock
Bro now you me confused me 😂
if their fleet isnt out
you can port strike
if it is out
use naval strike
rustic apex
Can puppets take decisions for formable nations?
iron veldt
interesting question
fathom thistle
Can puppets take decisions for formable nations?
no
rustic apex
no
Damn, thought I was being smart by feeding my Luxembourg Collaboration Government the rest of the Benelux.
rustic sparrow
Hi guys
Need help with navy
Currently trying to invade America
So what’s the issue
Why’s my strike force not active
Nevermind
Lowkey needed to move my navy D
XD
WAIT YA
IVE MOVED MY ENTIRE NAVY THERE
quaint karma
So I was solaying as italy, I unlocked infantry equipments 2 (ma -38’s) and with the dlc arms against tyranny, I think they duplicated weapons into series, and now I’m locked with an infinite void on my weapons storage, like genuinely I produce mab-38 serie 3 and they just KEEP converting to series 2’s, even after 1,5 years while I keep reducing my army in hopes to deal with this issue
what do I do in general ?
orchid iron
sacred junco
How do you get Hitler to become the president of the usa
iron veldt
How do you get Hitler to become the president of the usa
🔥🔥🔥
keen hemlock
How do you get Hitler to become the president of the usa
The wiki prolly knows
brazen panther
in this state/situation am i cooked (im BYZ)
gleaming grove
how the hell do you win civil war in the US? The enemy just spawns randomly and captures stuff without being present
brazen panther
in this state/situation am i cooked (im BYZ)
also i do have suff strenght to take the USSR if germany fills infantries
vital plinth
Hey guys I used a medium air frame to build naval bombers with a gun so it was classified as heavry figther. I now made a new version that’s called tactical bombing , but I can’t refit my medium frame modeles that are called heavey fighter any idea why ? Thought you were supposed to be able to refit same frame
uncut narwhal
also i do have suff strenght to take the USSR if germany fills infantries
you want it to be 36w
so add 3 more tank battalions
and get flame tanks
and light tank recon
and armored engineers
brazen panther
and get flame tanks
i dont have land warfare faciltiies
uncut narwhal
i dont have land warfare faciltiies
then build one
uncut narwhal
better late than never
yea you usually want tthem early
brazen panther
yea you usually want tthem early
if i have spared CIVs
but i started as greece so i had basically nothing
keen hemlock
but i started as greece so i had basically nothing
If ur playing hist id prolly build it the first thing i can do i can get stronghold network
brazen panther
If ur playing hist id prolly build it the first thing i can do i can get strongh...
eh id rather invest in infrastructure first with some nations bc greece has 3 CIVs at the beginning
uncut narwhal
eh id rather invest in infrastructure first with some nations bc greece has 3 CI...
why infra
getting a facility early
really helps out
big time
later on
keen hemlock
eh id rather invest in infrastructure first with some nations bc greece has 3 CI...
You need 2 breakthrus for stronghold network
It’s not 1
And it really does buff your defense
iron veldt
you want it to be 36w
do you use logistic companies
uncut narwhal
do you use logistic companies
i personally dont
its good if you pair it
with individual excellence tho
supple pendant
ivory flare
inner sparrow
its good if you pair it
its always good
ur gonna struggle with supply on 90% of fronts no matter what
even with building up supply
which 99% of players don’t do or can’t do
hoary glen
Hey guys I used a medium air frame to build naval bombers with a gun so it was c...
Is the fighter outdated and do you have some in stockpile?
meager pier
guys is the meta mountaineers and med flames for inf temps?
uncut narwhal
guys is the meta mountaineers and med flames for inf temps?
special forces with flame tanks are good
yes
meager pier
special forces with flame tanks are good
alr so i wanna make a good inf temp is 36w with inf and mount good?
uncut sparrow
ok for tanks is it skoda works prague of daimler benz better medium tank
uncut narwhal
ok for tanks is it skoda works prague of daimler benz better medium tank
the refurbishment is better
sand ember
Czechs get Daimler Benz?
meager pier
special forces with flame tanks are good
and yeah line art is shit id rather js stick to support aa and support art
art is soft attack but it doesnt rlly make a diff?
sand ember
Oh so the Germans get skoda?
uncut narwhal
Oh so the Germans get skoda?
has a different name i think but skoda too
uncut narwhal
art is soft attack but it doesnt rlly make a diff?
oh yeea
always take support arty
meager pier
yh
uncut narwhal
36w is the best for inf divs right?
if you want to attack with the units
then yes
for holding
16-18w
meager pier
but icl imma start leaning more to tanks since inf is mostly for holding not attacking now that i understand stuff
uncut sparrow
the refurbishment is better
ok so what for production what for design
uncut narwhal
ok so what for production what for design
henschel design
refurbishment for production
meager pier
for holding
okay so how do i organize my army, do i make all the divs into holding first then i recruit attacking divs?
uncut narwhal
but icl imma start leaning more to tanks since inf is mostly for holding not att...
not really
inf bricks work well
meager pier
inf bricks work well
by bricks you mean the whole template is inf?
uncut narwhal
by bricks you mean the whole template is inf?
36w full inf
meager pier
alr
and the support companies is support aa support arty engineers flame tanks and signal?
or am i missing smth
uncut narwhal
and the support companies is support aa support arty engineers flame tanks and s...
smth like this
signals arent like needed
but if you can
ig get them
meager pier
smth like this
is that heavy support arty?
also some people make like mechanized arty and aa how do you do that?
uncut narwhal
is that heavy support arty?
super heavy howitzer
meager pier
super heavy howitzer
special project?
uncut narwhal
special project?
yes
meager pier
also why does this keep happening
it randomly started a week ago
g why the reaction
uncut narwhal
g why the reaction
never seen that before
meager pier
never seen that before
also is it better to have low graphics?
uncut narwhal
also is it better to have low graphics?
if your pc cant handle the game
meager pier
it can but a day takes like 4 seconds to pass
and its a cpu based game
and i want the game to be faster early on
meager pier
what the hell 😭
hoary glen
what the hell 😭
Mod issue
fluid verge
im being pushed everywhere i restarted like 30 times
i have 1k hours this is embarrassing
the puppets give me like no fkn industry
i cant do anything
i jsut want the stupid achievement
hoary glen
You really should try to hold the passage south of Innsbruck to free up some units
Must you do it in historical?
fluid verge
no its over i uninstalled
hoary glen
Hahah
fluid verge
fVck you
hoary glen
Looks painful
I don't know what you really have to do there, but if you show your production line and unit template I might be able to help your next run
fluid verge
i was making everything
i hate myself
the worst part is i only had one mil on guns because OH WOW NON ALIGNED HAS THE WORST PUPPETS IN THE GAME
you get:
troops (useless crappy 12 widths)
thats it
this is so awful
and they declare on all my puppets and they have the worst troops known to man
i might as well just jump off a bridge irl for playing like this
terse mango
what happened with spanish civil war guys? i only play with no step back dlc
sand ember
what happened with spanish civil war guys? i only play with no step back dlc
What do you mean