🔧│keyboard_modding

[sly palm]

Swing you guys talking about lamps reminds me that I wanted a lamp for my monitor

[little glen]

i have had a lamp on my desk for 3 years now

i think i turned it on maybe like once

[glacial wind]

i only have them around for video aesthetics lol

having one lamp as secondary warm light source makes keyboard scenes really filmic

[chilly mural]

I want lamp that feels like the sun. I still remember my old setup where I have a lamp hanging and it's soo chill during the night

[sly palm]

I never have a lamp on, but for cleaning my keeb it would be pretty nice to have that monitor light bar

[chilly mural]

I have that. But I lost the remote and now it's being used as a night light

[glacial wind]

if i move honestly i might just never use room lights and run purely off studio lighting

nice diffused light is so nice

makes everything so aesthetic

[glacial wind]

So playing with the tx cnc puller. I found it’s one downside is it doesn’t work well on specific switches

For example Wuque flux and keytok it doesn’t like pulling

Just the shape and claws don’t grab the switches

[lilac inlet]

is that multi tool any good?

[glacial wind]

no. top tier for pulling keycaps though

but the multi usage functions suck

tx puller also doesn't work on gravastar ufo, but that's to be expected since it's got the weird sideways shape

[lilac inlet]

maybe get one of those on the side for those switches that the tx doesn't work for

[glacial wind]

yeah that's what i would do and what I have now

[lilac inlet]

not sure how thick it is but i think it's gonna suck for the fingers

compared to the tx cnc

[glacial wind]

i think ideal is you have one wuque studio puller and one tx cnc puller for everything else

[lilac inlet]

i should order a titanium one soon

[glacial wind]

I like this combo for now. The overpriced multi tool for keycaps, tx cnc for switch pulling, and Wuque puller for trickier/switches that don’t fit tx puller

[left depot]

https://x.com/_n_em/status/2052163656499314848

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X · May 6, 2026, 11:08 PM

[little glen]

maybe i'll grab the ws puller when i pick up the cullinans

[tropic urchin]

Nah, if you want something that sucks for the fingers, use the plastic Wooting puller

You’ll experience true misery cro

[lilac inlet]

yeee that's why i bought new one

[tropic urchin]

WS titanium one is pretty goated

[rotund perch]

Was thinking with novelties + tax and shipping, but its mostly so eu so nah

im also forgetting the currency is getting better 😭

[fallen pecan]

ws flux x rakka white mobius: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=1048511466324

three musketeers: pc pom pa66

[little glen]

they gave rakka the old mold 😭

[fallen pecan]

these are the old mobius just in white

[barren meteor]

Which brands of PCB stabilizers have you modified?

[trail bane]

Damn

[little glen]

i have used ws knight v2 and typeplus x yikb, both very good

[barren meteor]

ty

[barren meteor]

I see many people using version 2 instead of the latest version 4. Is it because this version is better?

[glacial wind]

just knight v4/v5 are newer so less people have them

stabs aren't something you need to update once they're good

[little glen]

because they were very popular at the time they came out and the newer versions are very recent

[tropic urchin]

V2 is the last long pole version

[little glen]

the new 80he will give me an excuse to crack open my second box of typeplus stabs

[trail bane]

v5?

[glacial wind]

Technically they stopped numbering them so we don’t know the exact version now

But latest ones are v5 or v6ish and pre lubed

[fallen pecan]

holy rgb on the new cherry k5 ultra tmr

[left depot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/white-surprise-be-like-FZuC4kSIAe7MTXyHuJ

[oak jewel]

why does this open like ballcatch but I see no ballcatch

[lilac inlet]

why do they gotta make embedding so hard on pc

[fallen pecan]

not ballcatch, just really easy to open

[rotund perch]

gt-80 will be nice to get for ball catch

[fallen pecan]

ah watched another vid, it's just a removable shroud

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-468896802094846995

[stray tiger]

You're like two clips breaking off away from it being a really easy open case.

[trail bane]

)

[sacred elm]

Who is that

[obtuse aspen]

gt60 alternative ?

[tropic urchin]

Real

[trail bane]

A Flux demon

[tropic urchin]

Azami main

[trail bane]

He was a great guy

Shame he disappeared

[sacred elm]

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-9489819575784481578

[sacred elm]

Flux demon is waiting for more diamonds and will return soon

[regal patio]

Get the Gateron Jades trust me bro

[last tundra]

Some info from GravaStar on disassembly of UFO switches:

“Regarding your inquiry about disassembling and lubing the UFO switches, we would like to provide some professional advice for your consideration:

Magnetic vs. Mechanical: Generally, magnetic switches (like the UFO switches) do not require manual lubing. This process is more common for traditional mechanical switches.

Precision Risk: Lubing magnetic switches can potentially affect their magnetic induction precision. If you prioritize performance and accuracy, we do not recommend lubing them.

Disassembly Method: We have found a video demonstration for disassembling these switches for you. However, please be aware that the disassembly process will slightly damage the outer structure of the switch body.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15vxxeIk52w8RZtI_sa3bTc9D6nVYBdPl/view?usp=drive_link

Please evaluate the risks carefully before proceeding. If you decide to go ahead with the modification, please do so at your own discretion.”

[sacred elm]

"Just buy different switches"

[last tundra]

lol kinda feels like that doesn’t it

[sacred elm]

What is that nonsense about the precision

[last tundra]

I think they mean if you get grease on the magnet or something?

[sacred elm]

Maybe, but nobody lubes the magnet area anyway

[last tundra]

Yeah. Arse covering then probably haha

Whole email felt like arse covering to me, but the vid is kinda useful I guess

[sacred elm]

I opened some like that but damaged the housing and the stem, so I don't think it's worth it at all

They are the most stable switches and I wish I could lube them, but whatever

[tropic urchin]

What a crock of shit gravastar 💔

How about my professional advice of not designing switches that can’t be opened

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Aliens would never design something that can’t be easily opened for them

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

[sly palm]

Maybe it's easily openable for them and they just want us to suffer

[tropic urchin]

I hope they experience great loss

Financially in Minecraft ofc

[sly palm]

)

[stoic ocean]

@trail bane so I bought the rakka

I'm impatient

[coral goblet]

what are the fastest switches, rn i got the one that come with the wooting 60he+

[ornate quest]

There's no fastest switch

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-my-man-gif-3278573345151201713

[regal patio]

Just choose a current gen switch that sounds good

[coral goblet]

idc if they sound good, i need the fastest debounce time and press force

[stoic ocean]

I saw there were only 2 left, so I hurried

[sly palm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message just look into #🪛│modding_faq

[candid bramble]

damn keyboard modding text is so peaceful

unlike the other chat...

[last tundra]

Debounce time isn’t affected by the switch, and if you mean lowest press force, either just buy any switch and put lighter springs in it or look at one of the numerous Hall effect switches out there and choose the one with the lowest spring force.

[coral goblet]

aight ty cat servant

[sweet oak]

crunch

[candid bramble]

crunch

[sly palm]

crunch

[sly palm]

What you mean?

[tropic urchin]

[candid bramble]

the more i look at this pic of sander the more i think it looks like that aphex twin album cover

[candid bramble]

thinking sander

the stream was fun tho

[sly palm]

I feel so tired today

[candid bramble]

bro go to bed

i am about to sleep as well

[sly palm]

It definitely was unhinged

[candid bramble]

i am going to get some food take my med and sleep

[sly palm]

It's like 10:30 pm here, to early

[candid bramble]

GULP

[sly palm]

Ehh I managed to fix my rhythm a little

Used to go to sleep at 8 am

[candid bramble]

bro thats not good

mine was fucked

i slept at 1130 am and woke up 9 at night

i slept at like 2 pm today and woke up 10 pm

i might go back to sleep in a bit

then go do stuff

[sly palm]

I am too tired to clean my keeb

[candid bramble]

mx or he

[sly palm]

He, my 60

[candid bramble]

thats shoulnt take more than like 15 min

[sly palm]

Wanted to bath my bojus

[sly palm]

I know

[candid bramble]

you wash your keycap and plate and let it dry over night

[sly palm]

Imma still not in the mood today

Weather does make me really tired

[cloud holly]

should i tape mod my 80he module

or would that make it louder

[candid bramble]

a bit yea

do the 80he module not come with the back sheet?

[ionic breach]

https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692 is just general
https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/167181566978555904 is memes
and https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/195907610640121856 is politics and ♻️

[ionic breach]

a stiffer plate ig

like alu/fr4/cf

[cloud holly]

oh so thats the tape mod

[trail bane]

Don’t forget about #🐱│pets

Or Mark will find you

[sly palm]

Pets is just pets

It works like it should

[glossy pagoda]

#🐱│pets is a holy place

[candid bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gnstQCvHSA&t=134s

the back sheet is called pet sheet

the pet sheet is just like a tape mod

[sly palm]

I think it's funny how you be lurking

[candid bramble]

i tried taping it myself and the pet sheet and dont really notics that big of a dif

[ionic breach]

oh yea mb

https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/1038031632168407081 is https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/1257616407588503643

joking

[candid bramble]

what

[tiny stag]

holly shit wtf

[austere creek]

wait why horse, rabbits and dogs no?

[sly palm]

DOGS?

Leave my little boy

[austere creek]

i didnt say your pet

[sly palm]

Still, dogs?

[cloud holly]

seems like too much work tbh

thank u for the vid tho

[austere creek]

meats meat at the end of the day

[glossy pagoda]

I don't mind eating animals raised for meat in general

[cloud holly]

i dont want my keyboard to be louder tho

[glossy pagoda]

That line is some else's choice, I'm just wheeling and dealing the memes

[candid bramble]

i am going to go get breakfast

and sleep guys

[cloud holly]

why are we talking about eating animals in keyboard modding

[candid bramble]

gn

[sly palm]

Actually, would you mind eating human?

[candid bramble]

coin wtf

[austere creek]

pretty sure you can get some nasty diseases from that even if cooked

[glossy pagoda]

The food with the highest biological value is human flesh

Second is eggs

[ionic breach]

eggs are goated

[austere creek]

pretty sure goats dont lay eggs my guy

[ionic breach]

speaking of animals

and in topic, shockingly

they make really cute artisans

imma pick up a cat if i ever happen to pass by the store

[tropic urchin]

If we’re talking about eating pets why didn’t someone mention Jakubix

[warped steeple]

are the raptors still the most sensitive he switch for ie esports?

[sacred elm]

[warped steeple]

like how they were in 2024 or so

[ionic breach]

never were

[warped steeple]

yes they were

[sacred elm]

No they weren't

[warped steeple]

ok👍

[ionic breach]

if u want that, technically the less wobble, the less deadzone

which is probably the ufos

[warped steeple]

i was thinking about the jade ultras

[ionic breach]

but i must say its really minor

[ionic breach]

also not close

[warped steeple]

for the reason of the least total actuation + least stem wobble + lightest actuation force

if you forget about the L30 springs ofc

[warped steeple]

wdym?

[ionic breach]

in terms of wobble

[warped steeple]

less deadzone as in lower deadzone?

[ionic breach]

it isnt the tightest

actuation force is also not that deep

[warped steeple]

alright but for all the reasons combined is it not the best option?

[ionic breach]

as in it doesnt matter much

[sacred elm]

There is no best option

[ionic breach]

its really all the same

the performance is in the keyboard not the switch

[warped steeple]

im a t2 pro ive swapped my 60v1 to L45 and 80he to L30, id personally say actuation force is nearly everything

[ionic breach]

that video about raptors is just bullshit for the lack of the better word

[warped steeple]

i really dont care about the sound

obviously most will but i just have certain goals yk

[ionic breach]

its preference yea, but it doesnt make it faster

[warped steeple]

its not a priority

[tulip rapids]

where is this

whats the sauce

[warped steeple]

im aware of that but i feel myself able to do a lot of very mechanically demanding things at faster speeds and for much much longer periods of time before getting a bit tired/sloppy with my timings

[ionic breach]

ktech as a retailer, but the name of the maker is the pic iirc

[warped steeple]

so imo the force is a top priority

[ionic breach]

https://ktechs.store/collections/vendors?q=SandunArt

[tulip rapids]

because usually people love pets

[ionic breach]

yea thats fine

[tulip rapids]

ty king finna buy bunny for gf

[tropic urchin]

That’s news to some

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yourarchivist-orange-bunny-bunny-bunny-rub-bunny-pet-gif-8698959216037485971

[warped steeple]

other than the force though @ionic breach which do you think in your opinion are good options for me? wdym by the ultras are "also not close"

[sly palm]

[ionic breach]

being the least wobble, which can make the deadzone marginally lesser

[sacred elm]

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[tropic urchin]

))

[ionic breach]

its not just sound

wobble is listed

[warped steeple]

oh alright

[warped steeple]

i appreciate it

[sacred elm]

If you click the link you'll see there are not just sound tests

[warped steeple]

right

i see

its interesting

[ionic breach]

ufos still the tightest iirc

[trail bane]

Mission impossible

[warped steeple]

iirc?

if it rly counts?

[ionic breach]

if i recall correctly

[warped steeple]

ohh ok

[warped steeple]

wdym by the ultras are "also not close", close to what?

[sacred elm]

you shouldn't chase the most tightest switches, ufos are the tightest but they're not the best feeling switches and the spring is a bit heavy

[ionic breach]

^

[trail bane]

And sometimes they’re feeling like overtight

[tropic urchin]

Vindicated after all these months cro

[warped steeple]

im not chasing that, im aiming for the culumitive best at lightest force, shortest total actuation & least wobble

[ionic breach]

personally id say one of the fluxes is what ur looking for

[warped steeple]

ok thank u drakon

[sacred elm]

Check wuque flux, wuque diamond, ttc horse, keytok nova

[warped steeple]

gottchu

[sacred elm]

all of them have very small stem wobble, shorter travel distance and light springs

[warped steeple]

i appreciate it

[sly palm]

Lowest actuation on a wooting is 0.1mm, so just keep that in mind

No matter the switch

[warped steeple]

right.. i mean 3.2-4.0

shortest total actuation

[sly palm]

Why would that matter tho?

[warped steeple]

esports

[tulip rapids]

china holding my fr4 plate hostage

[warped steeple]

still not sure why 0.05 isnt an option yet, seems like something that firmware could achieve

[sly palm]

Again. Why would that matter? (ESports isn't an answer)

[sacred elm]

https://www.youtube.com/live/NjFhAUq1x20?t=3847

[tropic urchin]

It’s not good anyway so nothing to miss

[sly palm]

I want a CF plate

[trail bane]

Keep in mind that shorter ≠ better

[tulip rapids]

[tropic urchin]

Quiet white monster enabler

[tulip rapids]

bro hating on his own recommendations

[warped steeple]

if youre not consciously playing to keep not bottoming out a switch in mind, or not skilled enough under serious pressure to press as fast as possible therefore subconsciously only pressing 0.1 or so then repeating, when bottoming out a switch youre not releasing until you go back up, you go back up first if the bottom out is faster and less total distance.

rt is out of the question since were ignoring all other times that you dont bottom out.

[trail bane]

Response wise It’s not faster

[warped steeple]

^

[warped steeple]

right lander

[warped steeple]

hypothetically measuring end to end latency including the human, it matters

[sly palm]

So, why do we ignore rt now?

[sacred elm]

none of that matters with HE

[trail bane]

Shorter Actuation/Reset Distance ≠ Faster Response: Understanding This Trap

“If I set it to 0.01mm or 0.001mm, or whatever, it should be faster!”
When actuation or reset distances are set too low, the keyboard must employ more complex logic to maintain stability.

This results in a paradox:

The shorter the actuation distance, the harder it is to make a reliable judgment — thus requiring algorithmic intervention;
The more algorithmic processing involved, the heavier the computational load;
Heavier processing leads to slower response.
So in practice, extreme short-distance configurations may not deliver the high-speed experience you expect — in fact, they may do the opposite.

[ionic breach]

😭 can we reopen the snap tap channel

[warped steeple]

i thought this was obvious, if youre bottoming out the switch, youre going either from 4.0 to 3.9 for the actuation to change. or from 3.2-3.1

youre reaching 3.2-3.1 before you reach 4.0-3.9

[trail bane]

Pretty same philosophy for switch travel

[sacred elm]

none of that matters, you have adjustable actuation and rapid trigger

[tulip rapids]

we need modding octagon instead

[sly palm]

That makes no sense at all.. you can just go 2mm on a 4mm

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-pettis-mma-ko-off-the-cage-octagon-gif-14635887

[warped steeple]

this isnt regarding snap tap, that would make this irrelevant of course, this is about all the other keys

[ionic breach]

no im just saying the gaming arguements where usually kept in there

[warped steeple]

then youre not bottoming out

??

[ionic breach]

instead of keyboard modding or general

[trail bane]

If it worked like that, everyone would be using low profile magnetic keyboards

[warped steeple]

ohh alright

[sly palm]

You do not need to bottom out
I feel like you don't understand how HE works

[warped steeple]

people seem to care about their anolog capability, that is why wooting still ships 4.0mm switches

[warped steeple]

so, ive actually said this 100 times, it happens.

first two sentences ish

[little glen]

word salad ass sentence

[tulip rapids]

@sly palm mods when ?

[trail bane]

After me

[sly palm]

Wanna get a CF plate real bad, and imma kinda waiting for GT60v2

[candid bramble]

I had a kit ship from China to aus

And aus custom flagged it as a bomb somehow....

This happened like 2 year ago

[sly palm]

For switches I still don't know

[sly palm]

Oh wait, now I am confused about what Goku means with mods

[little glen]

i hope you know that RT works even if you dont bottom out

[sacred elm]

[trail bane]

You’re not, I AM Yes

[warped steeple]

this is very interesting, and could be the reason there isnt 0.05mm actuation on wootings as of now, but this is not at all what i am talking about, im just talking about the bottom out actuation. going from 4.0 to 3.2mm

[warped steeple]

so like ive had to say this 100 times. were only talking about bottom outs

if you bottom out, naturally rt is irrelevant

[trail bane]

^.

[sly palm]

Why would rt be irrelevant when bottoming out

[warped steeple]

if youre going down to 4.0 and your rt is .1 so 3.9 actuates it again, it is still going to be slower than a 3.2-3.1

[tulip rapids]

)))

[tulip rapids]

what da hell

[little glen]

i dont see why rt would be irrelevant if you bottom out unless you set your actuation at 4mm for some reason?

[humble surge]

Only 3 days left to Diamond launch and purchase 👀

[tulip rapids]

depends on your budget tbh and the sound youre going for

[sly palm]

No, it isn't faster than going from 3.2 to 3.1 it's both 0.1mm you move the switch

[tulip rapids]

diamonds are very nice tbh but they're expensive

do you already have dcf?

[sly palm]

Maybe herons will be something nice

[warped steeple]

explain to me how the logic would become more complex for the pcb when there isnt a shorter actuation?

[tulip rapids]

seen some people like novas

[tulip rapids]

omni type shit?

[humble surge]

Not expensive, you can get 5 of them for 6$ at launch

[candid bramble]

Guys I am going to start a gofund me and I am going to make my dream switched

Aka when omitype release their switches I am going to steal their formula and make it white

They look like owlab ti tbh

[sly palm]

Nah I am stuck on tikkens right now, had other priorities like monitor (which came with a defect )

[warped steeple]

i could be very wrong but it seems safe to assume less total actuation would actually be a benefit against this "paradox" @trail bane

[sly palm]

Ye

[tulip rapids]

fair

[humble surge]

Also the usual cheaper sourcing will eventually be available (already is in fact), only that initial China launch was expensive and then a week after the western launch they go back to the official release price.
But the trick is to not buy directly from Wuque after that ^^

[tulip rapids]

maybe it will maybe it not i guess you plan on modding later in the year then

[trail bane]

https://rakka.dev/docs/the-meaning-of-parameters-and-specs

[tulip rapids]

owlab ti are a plague to humanity

[sly palm]

Step for step, definitely wanted to make sure I pick up Sojus

[little glen]

i feel like this discussion is only relevant for games where you need super short key presses like rythm games cause i dont see this ever being relevant in like a shooter, where the good thing about RT/analog is being able to stop instantly no matter where in the key travel you are

[ionic breach]

i do like 3.5ish tho

feels snappy

[sly palm]

Probably will start with CF plate, and then wait for other stuff and maybe pick some nice switches up, thinking of maybe pink lotuses @tulip rapids

[ionic breach]

that being said, i also like laptop keyboards

[tulip rapids]

beri beri niceuuuu

beri open mindeuu

https://tenor.com/view/wuoseohk-wooseok-hongdae-building105-gif-12386182221664816273

[little glen]

yeah going from tikkens to horsies felt so good ngl

in part due to the shorter travel i'd say

[sly palm]

Can you type in your number in my Ipone 17 pro max

[tulip rapids]

EXCUUUSEEEEE MEEEE

[sly palm]

Are you not open mindeuu

[warped steeple]

nothing is mentioned about total actuation

just the initial

[polar girder]

https://divinikey.com/products/pbtfans-1984-keycaps

[tulip rapids]

oh im beri beri open mindeuu

[polar girder]

Damn that’s fire

[ionic breach]

oh yea the old mac font

i really like it

[candid bramble]

Xp bar low

Damn I miss sander already

[tulip rapids]

did he leave?

[candid bramble]

No he had a very unhinged stream

[tulip rapids]

oh i see i see

[candid bramble]

No vod replay :(

[candid bramble]

That sticker is him during the stream today lmao

[tulip rapids]

ahh i see i missed it

sander pennywise

[trail bane]

Again, it all comes down to the algorithms, iirc in any case it comes down to raw data(wha) and the fact that your keyboard does not see your intentions for a faster bottom out, all it sees is magnetic force

[trail bane]

He has a profile on Linkedin, Could he really be looking for a j*b

[sly palm]

Sno didn't accept his request on LinkedIn

[candid bramble]

LMAO

I love this guy

[tulip rapids]

bera keys beow edition

cat bread should win

if it doesnt go to him... This shit rigged

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/logical-flawlessly-logical-spock-star-trek-the-original-series-gif-23575428

[tulip rapids]

ptsd from typing test

[candid bramble]

Either cat or raquel

[ionic breach]

whose winning the typing test

sno still?

[candid bramble]

If it neither it's rig

[sly palm]

Nah Mark will win, Dali rigged that shit

[candid bramble]

LMAO

[tulip rapids]

that buff only applies to switchy blanket

[candid bramble]

What is his wpm

[sly palm]

No, switchy blankies mark buys for Dali

[trail bane]

Now I’m actually curious wha Jed will say

[tulip rapids]

yeah iirc he got like 90 wpm or 115 wpm

[ionic breach]

i think like 100 plus

yun

[tulip rapids]

and thats with sander debuffs

[candid bramble]

That's not impossible to beat

I avg like 140 on a good day

[ionic breach]

well with sander talking random shit and bull shit rules

its quite gud

[candid bramble]

Oh

Then I will have like 85

[ionic breach]

o shit i just got an update on my hoodie

[tulip rapids]

yeah anything above 80 is good

[ionic breach]

delivery in 2 weeks pog

[tulip rapids]

iirc

[candid bramble]

80+ normally is quite good

60-70 is avg

[ionic breach]

ive never done a typing test

[sly palm]

Not what you mean, but jed explaining why no customizable dead zone https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1495400493114200145

[candid bramble]

I got addicted at typing fast when I started this hobby now I avg 130-140

Peak is 158

[ionic breach]

my avg is probably like 60 id assume

[candid bramble]

Guys do crack don't do custom keyboard

[ionic breach]

i can only type fast in short bursts

[candid bramble]

@sly palm dude I just ate 2 bacon, 4 burger patty and 2 egg

I am taking my med and sleep

[sly palm]

Sleep well

[ionic breach]

dayum i was right

[trail bane]

Gn

[sly palm]

Sleep well, future mod

[cloud crane]

[warped steeple]

you realize that the faster bottom out is happeneing at a hardware level right? not only is it not about "intentions" because it is not a faster bottom out on the same switch (O-rings), it is a faster bottom out via a shorter magnetic travel distance on a new switch. wootility on top of that fully supports the switch that i would get on the non beta of the wootility? so in what world would my "keyboard" (pcb) not see my "intention" for a faster bottom out?

[sly palm]

It can't see into the future.. I won't be able to tell if you bottom out or stop at 2mm before you actually do it

[warped steeple]

so actually my keyboard can definitely tell if i bottom out the switch, or if i stop at 2.0mm.

it has never had anything to do about seeing the future..

this is a real time matter

not once was anybody talking about the keyboard being able to, needing to, or wanting to guess my next input or input distance

[warped steeple]

the quotes are there on purpose

in what world would my kb nt see my intention for a faster bottom out

If you understood the whole message youd realize the word intention was missused and not of my own thats why there are quotes. i used it to make sure the other person couldnt say i was talking about something different just because i fixed the word

[sly palm]

It doesn't make a difference if you press 2mm on a 3.2mm switch or a 4mm switch. It also doesn't make a difference for rapid trigger.

[warped steeple]

right

that is why were not talking about rt

this is genuienly maybe like the 7th time ive had to say this

[sly palm]

And I will leave the discussion behind as it seems to go in circles
Enjoy whatever switch you take

[warped steeple]

probably the best decision😭

[warped steeple]

i appreciate it

[worldly urchin]

@sly palm great switches by the way
https://bespokereviews.blogspot.com/2026/05/wuque-diamond-switch-review.html

[sly palm]

I am happy you found some nice switches for youself

[worldly urchin]

These are definitely going into my alice layout

They may not be S tier wobble like UFOs people have, but they decimate all other categories in my opinion.

Whenever TMR is the plan on wootings end perhaps magnet same pole constrain will not interfere.

[sly palm]

I don't think wooting will go into TMR, at least of right now

[worldly urchin]

I understand that

[sly palm]

There is no reason they should

[sacred elm]

Yeah, overall they're better switches than UFO. Stem wobble is good, just like any other walled stem switches except the UFOs

UFOs are too tight

[trail bane]

https://x.com/jedidiahtan/status/2050808117596913894?s=46

Sno | Jedidiah Tan (@jedidiahtan)

Working on a bigger write up to explain TMR vs HE in more detail, in meantime, here’s a word from one of Wooting’s founders on TMRs sensitivity claims.

It’s a bit annoying that influencers keep quoting TMR marketing without looking into what actually applies to keyboard usage.

X · May 3, 2026, 5:22 AM

[worldly urchin]

Yes and resultingly will never not be scratchy

[sly palm]

About UFOs I really dislike the fact that you can't open them without breaking them

[trail bane]

Not so soon I’d say

[robust siren]

fh6 in one week

[worldly urchin]

Have people tried it at all angles?

Like what exactly folds upon disassembly?

[sly palm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[slim jay]

Is Wooting the fastest keyboard right now

I want to upgrade maybe but not sure

[worldly urchin]

Bottom plastic housing looks thin, though I suspect the clips break?

[slim jay]

Is the 80he the best keyboard right now with the f keys also on top

Like the fastest keyboard out of all the others too

[sly palm]

@sacred elm might show you his try of opening them

[sacred elm]

Latency shouldn't be your priority. Every top keyboard has sub 1ms latency. You should focus on some other things

[worldly urchin]

I watched the Google drive video

[slim jay]

What do you use I want to upgrade and try something

[worldly urchin]

Oh I see @sly palm he punctured the top

[worldly urchin]

He could have tried applying light force gradually between both aides

[sly palm]

Disassembly is the easier part as of my understanding, the light defuser is the problem for assembly

[worldly urchin]

Oof

[little glen]

Why would you open these, havent you heard that lube might mess with the magnet strength

[worldly urchin]

I am not gonna lie it can mess with a bit

[sly palm]

This just made me laugh lmao

[little glen]

Ideally you should use dry ufos to scratch maxx

[worldly urchin]

I had that happen with lekker 60 v1 on my lekker edition wooting two

[sacred elm]

Oh mine are super dry, trust me

[worldly urchin]

But it was a noticeable excess

[little glen]

I need to relube my horsies

Might have to buy more 205g0

[sacred elm]

I'm waiting for lube and the rest of diamonds and gonna lube them

[worldly urchin]

Lubing diamonds

[sacred elm]

Yes, I like lubing my switches

[worldly urchin]

I see.. alright then

[sly palm]

Lubing switches is pretty fun and relaxing imo

Good therapy

[little glen]

I‘ll lube my horsies once the diamonds arrive and then swap it around and lube the diamonds while using the horsies

[uneven cradle]

Can you lube my switches for me, I don't wanna

[sacred elm]

Springs definitely can have some lube, since they're 23mm. Also top housing to make top out sound cleaner

[little glen]

Why the fuck did my order just ship

It‘s midnight

Wtf are the people at wooting‘s warehouse doing

[ionic breach]

redbulls

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-think-meme-intelligence-common-sense-gif-8946867

[little glen]

Maybe i‘ll get one of those

Lube stations

[worldly urchin]

Only reason I asked—is despite the automated lube job, diamonds feel scratch free. Picture of the spring below:

[little glen]

So far ive just put down paper towels as a surface

[sacred elm]

All wuque switches are very smooth, not just diamonds. Hand lubing makes the sound cleaner, that's it

[worldly urchin]

Hmm will take that into consideration later perhaps then

[little glen]

Dang it sourcing real krytox is so annoying 😭

[worldly urchin]

Though my hesitation stems from what taeha types and Norbauer said

[sacred elm]

Out of stock on delta?

[little glen]

Nah delta has ir

I just dont wanna order one single thing of lube

[worldly urchin]

Enough lubricant for a mechanism's mechanical movement

[little glen]

And syringes are oos

[sacred elm]

I need big jar of 205

[little glen]

That maybe applies to their weird stabs

But switches are different cause you also use lube to change sound and feel

[worldly urchin]

For that much?

[worldly urchin]

Well I know for sure lubricant will quiet down a switch maybe some people want that I guess

[little glen]

I might have to get the tx switch pusher

[worldly urchin]

Though I have slightly over lubed my raw HEs and over time they did get loud again

[little glen]

Yeah

[sly palm]

Switch pusher
Excuse me, why we pushing switchy now?

[sacred elm]

did you like cullinan more or the ocean

[little glen]

Lube settles over time

[worldly urchin]

I have a bit of skepticism of more lubricant staying in place and not over time leading to sound alterations.

[worldly urchin]

Heart of the Oceans

Cullinans are too safe for my liking

[little glen]

Just something to justify buying the lube on deltakeyco

Maybe i‘ll buy more stabs tbh

Cant have too many of those

[sly palm]

You never know, maybe you win another board

[sacred elm]

I think cullinan needs stiffer plate like CF. On softer plate heart of the ocean sounds better

I use CF so I preferred cullinan

[worldly urchin]

Ah I see

[little glen]

I preferred cullinan on fr4

I might get alu and cf plates for 80he

[worldly urchin]

I will say this though, both do not sound like cheap plastic.

[sacred elm]

yeah

[worldly urchin]

My geon raw HEs which I thought sounded good, sound like a toy now.

[sacred elm]

[little glen]

They sound like expensive plastic

So do my horsies

[worldly urchin]

They sound similar to another plastic in my possession

https://youtube.com/shorts/wt56BFX8uo8

Slightly off topic

[little glen]

I should post my new expensive plastic again

[sacred elm]

that's a lot of skulls

not enough though

[little glen]

I quite like them

[worldly urchin]

Interesting moulding on that bottom picture

[slim jay]

What keyboard do you guys have rn

[worldly urchin]

80HE

[little glen]

80he, 60he v2 and a wooting one in the closet

[slim jay]

Is 80he the best rn

[little glen]

It‘s the best if you want arrow keys and f row

[worldly urchin]

That depends on who you are

[slim jay]

I want to start playing Minecraft but the 60 doesn’t have f keys

[little glen]

60he v2 and 80he have the same performance so it just depends what layout you prefer/if you‘d rather have arrows/f row or split spacebar

[tropic urchin]

Now I feel less bad debating v2

[little glen]

Yeah then 80he is probably the way to go if you want dedicated f keys

[little glen]

What

[slim jay]

Yeah I don’t want the split bar

[worldly urchin]

Not dedicated ones, can be accessed through layers

[worldly urchin]

Well then, you could go 80HE big knob is better designed for it

https://wooting.io/knobs

[tropic urchin]

I told you 80HE is getting retired from gaming lineup

[quick finch]

80he the goat

[tropic urchin]

Starting next Tuesday it’s over

[little glen]

Damn

[cloud crane]

40HE when

[little glen]

I‘ll keep using 80he forever tbh

[tropic urchin]

Oring/friction fit or bust

Silicone can kiss my….

[little glen]

Until we get a + or v2

Or a split keeb

[cloud crane]

Wooting split ergo

[little glen]

Dont tell anyone but oring is silicone too

I mean friction

[tidal frigate]

@little glen ortho split ergo full size

[little glen]

My brain is melting from lack of sleep

[little glen]

Nah

[tropic urchin]

Doesn’t sound as dog shit as the silicone gasket tho

[worldly urchin]

Have a good night then

[tropic urchin]

Only acceptable amount of silicone

[little glen]

Dont care about full size and doesnt have to be ortho either

[cloud crane]

Battleship layout

[worldly urchin]

I think this is close to peak layout for me

[little glen]

I want qk split alice type keeb

From woot

[worldly urchin]

I am gonna try to design an unofficial one later👀

Working out keycap profile first. Thinking about people with larger hands

[polar girder]

I almost joked yesterday when someone was asking for requests for tented ergo ortho layout lol

Pretty peak indeed

[worldly urchin]

i mean to be fair it is not for everyone

[polar girder]

Right. Not exactly the largest slice of market share out for grabs 😅

[worldly urchin]

Tented exists by the way if you did not know to keep arms in a neutral position

[candid bramble]

IKEA bear with da keyboard

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-gif-25354633

[untold wigeon]

oh my god I need that bear

its so beautifull

its magestic

[wispy wharf]

65 is just worse 75

[uneven cradle]

Both cursed

[sly palm]

60 split sb best size

[wispy wharf]

tkl my beloved

[polar girder]

lol wut

[worldly urchin]

https://dygma.com/blogs/ergonomics/the-benefits-of-keyboard-tenting?srsltid=AfmBOoorLLq28wPPWxJOk0F3PCU9JEpME00aEh3zCcQ9T4icKFywFyIm

[candid bramble]

Go to your near by ikea and pick one up

You either buy a shark or a bear

[untold wigeon]

i have a shark!

I'll be on my way this weekend to buy one lmao

[polar girder]

lol I know that’s why I like it

I don’t get why you felt the need to inform me when I commented that I like it

I guess I’m just confused but yeah cool keyboards ☝️🤓

[worldly urchin]

i misread your comment perhaps

[polar girder]

Yeah I wasn’t being sarcastic. I like the layout.

The only joke was knowing they’ll never make something that niche. But I wish lol

Or even split

[cloud crane]

Time to commision a pcb designer

[candid bramble]

Make a pink pcb and slap a anime girl on it

Peak designing

[cloud crane]

Freathermaxxing

Or idk MM Studio

[uneven cradle]

Recommend the same one as Manta

[fluid ravine]

we shall leave that to raquel

[candid bramble]

I was thinking of designing my own keeb but that seem very expensive

And I do not have the money

[uneven cradle]

It's not cheap but it's doable

[candid bramble]

Not doable if I am BROKE

[uneven cradle]

What if you design a cardboard case that seems like it could fit the budget

[candid bramble]

That's true

I feel like designing my own board will be my end game

[tulip rapids]

real

bilicone basket

[candid bramble]

Alice with a Southpaw num pad perhaps

If I do design it it's my end game

[cloud crane]

Gondo my goatttt

[wispy wharf]

southpaw num pad in the middle of a tented board

that would be more like...midpaw?

[slim jay]

Are the switches in the 80he tenz shorter than jade ultras

[fluid ravine]

no its full 4mm

[icy sand]

I accidentaly unscrewed my stabilizer screws now when I press my stabilizer keys they are haard to push down and pull up what shuold I do?

[slim jay]

So I should switch to my ultras I just ordered the 80he

[regal patio]

There are better switches out there honestly

[glacial wind]

Quite cool, osume are relaunching their cables now with better cabling to support 8k HE properly

[fluid ravine]

I still cant get over the thought of buying a cable at that price
gotta buy a cable atleast once around that price to change my mindset on it

[glacial wind]

they just look very pretty

[fluid ravine]

but hell they looook niceeee

i love the green and cappuccino looking one

[robust siren]

i think you just need to spin the wheel

[fluid ravine]

green is giving matcha

or botanical

[glacial wind]

they have an all white one too for the white church

[robust siren]

froggy vibes

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-1105617598331461830

[fluid ravine]

there's actually a matcha cable

wish the heads were a bit more unique

but i fw the lilac, snake, doalgona, and kanagawa

[robust siren]

how are osume caps made?

are they printed or double shot

[glacial wind]

Osume are dye sub but quality is very good dye sub

[robust siren]

i see

[uneven cradle]

Oo battle of the expensive shipping cables osume vs wiredin

[glacial wind]

that’s why they tend to stick to the pastel style colors that do well with dye sub I think

but they’ve really been kings of the comfy vibe colors for awhile now

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

Honestly if someone wanted case study on excellent branding osume would be one to do

[fluid ravine]

performative ahhh

[glacial wind]

even down to how they partnered with specific influencers who perfectly match the comfy vibe content

[fluid ravine]

lowkey if i were to make a performative theme keyboard i def use osume

[robust siren]

[glacial wind]

It’s all just done so well in how all their marketing and social media and products perfectly match the comfy theme

everything just fits together

[paper bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/dalgona-death-impossible-korea-korean-candy-gif-1683961224887536441

[glacial wind]

starbucks copied that model too recently. Hired that guy who makes starbucks drinks, now he earns an extra 6 figures to continue making the drink tiktoks

[paper bloom]

Dudes earning loads of cash

[glacial wind]

it's just how marketing works in this era. you hire the creator over just hiring the content

[paper bloom]

Its p smart model for that but good to learn and know ig

and can apply whenever

[stark ridge]

I'm in love with art nouveau
Any 3rd party cases that would fit wooting 80 that are thematically art nouveau-ish?

[cloud crane]

Probably not, you'd need to make one yourself

[little glen]

That sounds like something you‘d have to get custom made and it would be VERY expensive

[candid bramble]

The custom case design of doom

[cloud crane]

Mmmmmmm 🤤

[stark ridge]

I don't mean like the dimensions but like the style and materials

[cloud crane]

Yeah still expensive to make

[stark ridge]

Like Rolex submariner expensive?

[cloud crane]

A one-off would be like above 500

Very rough estimate

[stark ridge]

I am looking at budgeting about 1k for full build

I already have cerakeys for the caps

The white and blue crackle

Thinking about grabbing one of these frieren caps for the escape key

[cloud crane]

... Not including case design commision fee, if you're paying someone else to design one for you...

[stark ridge]

I'm pretty decent at design

[cloud crane]

CAD design?

[stark ridge]

Still learning

[cloud crane]

Hmm best to ask for advice from someone in the business I guess

[stark ridge]

I do woodworking and usually use paper

A brass case that was engraved would probably fit the bill

[little glen]

I know, that is what i meant as well 😄

[stark ridge]

Oof

[cloud crane]

Hoooh brass... Material costs up up up

[little glen]

Best bet would be to either contract a designer or design it yourself

And then have a machine shop make the metal parts for you

[stark ridge]

That's kinda what I figured but I'm pretty new to keeb community

[little glen]

And an artisan to make the finer decoration pieces and stuff

That you‘d then have to glue in or screw in or attach in some other manner

[stark ridge]

Current keebs are both by keychron and are okay

[cloud crane]

Also a full brass case wouldn't be a great idea because it'll most probably sound like dogwater

[stark ridge]

I liked the kangaroo one

I think pom plate, ceramic keys, and brass case would be decent sounding

Or a copper case

[cloud crane]

Mmmm best to consult a case designer for the specifics... We're just wannabes here

[stark ridge]

Case is the one I'm workshopping the most

[earnest token]

Guys i want to upgrade my wooting60he

[little glen]

I would like to point out 2 things as well

[earnest token]

It’s been years i just changed switches

Is there anything else i can do to make it better?

[stark ridge]

Who are some good ones?

[little glen]

1. making a case in a specific style that looks good may be more difficult than expected and
2. i dont know if your ceramic keycaps/ideas for future keycaps really line up with the art nouveau style you have in mind

[earnest token]

I just saw this plate in aliexpress should i buy it?

[cloud crane]

https://hali.studio

My goat

[little glen]

I dont know what switches you have but you could see if there are newer/better ones now, case swap, keycaps and play around with different foams/dampening materials

[stark ridge]

Alphonse mucha is my favorite artist but most caps that reference him are plastic and I don't like plastic caps

[stark ridge]

Thanks!!

[fallen pecan]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[stark ridge]

Golly these are stunning

[cerulean wind]

how long does the factory lube of keytok nova last?

[earnest token]

Which one should i get for wooting 60he+

[little glen]

1.6

[lilac inlet]

i see titanium keycaps, visit website - anime inside nvm 😭

[earnest token]

I use gateron jade max

[stark ridge]

They have custom options as well

Frieren is a very wholesome anime

[earnest token]

Why the crying emoji? Are they bad? I used another switches but they feel harder to press. I used gateron jade pro also and they feel hard also

[lilac inlet]

they do, not very cheap though :>
maybe fun for later

[little glen]

jade max have a bad reputation around these parts

i am also a gateron hater

[glacial wind]

if you really want jade max just get jade air

same thing but they at least fixed the stem material so you don't get the sticking

[earnest token]

I am using them from a long time and i have very high rank in cs2. Sometimes i feel like they are stucking

[glacial wind]

it happens a lot when stem and housing is same material

that's why with jade air they basically made same thing but changed the stem material

[little glen]

i recommend one of the hundreds of ws flux switch variants or ttc horse

[earnest token]

Yeah they are sticking if i don’t press it straight down, i thought the issue is with my fingers

[little glen]

if you want fully transparent, ws flux diamond cullinan is that

[earnest token]

I am used to the feel because i am using them from a long time and if i switch to another switch i keep losing

[glacial wind]

oh a little tid bit for you guys that like secret switch news. So one of the two switches that I said would become popular are out (wuque diamonds), but the other one is still in the works and it's pretty interesting from what I've seen. It'll be an option for people who want really muted switch similar to keytok nova type sound

no idea when that one will release though as i've been hearing/seeing bits of info about it for a long time now while it's been in dev

[earnest token]

I will try jade air if they are same like jade max

[lilac inlet]

i wanna try diamonds eventually but to pay like €150 + shipping + tax for a set is a bit too much for me 😆

[little glen]

muted switches 🥀

[little glen]

thats why you order it with some extra stuff like switch puller from ws

[lilac inlet]

buy extra wooting, or buy switch set - hmmm

[little glen]

wooting took that descision off my hands

[glacial wind]

it's interesting how long switch dev takes really

[lilac inlet]

legit i'd rather get the tenz 80he than a diamond switch set, just for collection - i like the colors but i generally don't think i need a second 80% atm

[glacial wind]

because the diamonds have been in works for quite awhile, that's why i guessed they'd be popular since they were being made as improved flux when flux was starting to get popular

[earnest token]

The shipping is too much maybe because of the war in my country. Shipping from aliexpress is still cheap. Can you guys recommend stabilizers which i can buy from aliexpress?

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[glacial wind]

lol

[lilac inlet]

i suggest you invest in a long-distance drone

[ionic breach]

[lilac inlet]

jk

[glacial wind]

it's tricky because 60he+ isn't compatible with some stabs

that's why we say knights because those are known to work

[little glen]

you could find a vendor closer to you

[ionic breach]

which region are u in?

[earnest token]

I am in dubai

[glacial wind]

normally we'd say typeplus x yikb as another option, but i don't know if typeplus is compatible with 60he+

[lilac inlet]

they seem really noice for sure, but the price is a bit high for me

i'm not thát invested into a switch feeling (yet)

[glacial wind]

yeah switch pricing in HE been getting a bit crazy

[lilac inlet]

i thought €73 for the XVX was expensive, not even close

[glossy pagoda]

Holy canoli that's expensive shipping

[lilac inlet]

i have three switch sets for the price it would cost me one diamond set - XVX Whispers, SquisHE's and OWLab Ti HE's

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe find a local parcel forwarding service

[ionic breach]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

id try some of the eu vendors

[earnest token]

I can buy from canada

[glacial wind]

xvx whispers are most fun ones honestly

just the tactile ec type switch is fun to have. i'd never use it for my main gaming board but for work board they're fun

[lilac inlet]

i think i'll use the SquisHE/OWlab for the 80he and whispers for the 60%

because the 80% is the gaming board

[stark ridge]

Yea pricy enough that I will only consider a few 'key' caps

[glacial wind]

i'm not fan of the squishe/raptor v2 sound personally, i find them a bit flat

[lilac inlet]

i have yet to figure all that out when my keycaps finally arrive (still waiting btw)

5-11 business days my ass

then i can pop on the keycaps and check sound

[stark ridge]

I do need to find the best he switch for the really heavy cerakeys

For my Q12 I was using kailh box crystal navy

[lilac inlet]

there are springs you can put on your switch (at least on the XVX) that help reduce pressure on the stem, and you can use heavier spring switches to compensate for the weight i guess

you get 2 per pack for spacebars

but something similar may help

[fallen pecan]

i sure hope this ain't releasing in june, i've been waiting long enough

[glacial wind]

they still haven't shipped the mag lev switches

[stark ridge]

Looks neat

[fallen pecan]

ye my worst nightmare june release date

[stark ridge]

Interesting

[glacial wind]

it's silly that they put them on sale so early

i've had an order sitting there since release day it's almost 1 month now

[lilac inlet]

sound will also be interesting on this build because it's an alu case, it's mostly hollow so i have no idea what to expect

[glacial wind]

although i'm not holding breathe for anything crazy with the mag lev switches since it seems it's just jade ultra but 30g entire press

[stark ridge]

I dislike the alu case sound😭

[lilac inlet]

i have aluminum spacebar which is slightly heavier than normal keycap i believe so i use it on there

[stark ridge]

Cerakey space bar is veryyyy heavy

[fallen pecan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-peak-hike-jrvfKvr2mmcFO

[glacial wind]

lol

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-phone-call-calling-cap-calling-cap-is-calling-gif-27456793

[glacial wind]

at least i got a 20% discount on them i guess

[lilac inlet]

yeah i'm not sure how heavy they are and what the best way to deal with it is, but you probably want a pretty stable switch or your stem wobble may be a bit crazy due to weight

[glacial wind]

cerakey if they could get their spacing and consistency better it would be a mile easier to recommend

[lilac inlet]

also might want to use https://deltakeyco.com/products/typeplus-x-yikb-stabilizers to help

[glacial wind]

it seems they just can't figure out how to get consistent spacing with ceramic

[broken notch]

I have these

[glacial wind]

the sound is pleasant-ish, if you like that deeper tone, but the fact their spacing is so all over the place even on their 'improved v3' versions is not great

[lilac inlet]

i will order some soon, i bet they will still arrive before the keycaps

[broken notch]

[little glen]

gonna order so much stuff

i'll be broke

😭

[lilac inlet]

the qc issues are a shame indeed

[stark ridge]

I like deepest tone possible

And i have tremors so the heavier caps with 100g switches helps negate accidental presses

[cloud crane]

I heard the cerakeys "ice crystal" keycaps actually scratched the skin

[glacial wind]

at least i never had issues with their legends coming off so far after couple months of use

but yeah the spacing and inconsistency is a shame

(that and they don't have matte split spacebar keycaps which is a true sin)

[little glen]

i wonder how many free wasd keycap sets ws will send out with their diamond launch week promotion

[lilac inlet]

one time i wanted to buy nice watch, €3,5k - look closer.. date wheel is not aligned, bezel is not aligned, front has two different colors of white etc

and swatch will "fix it under warranty" but the root cause never gets solved absolutely shameless
pay €3,5k for a new watch, have to send it to swatch for a few weeks.. get it back with new scratches because they let the intern do it - what a lovely trade

i didn't buy it 🙂

[glacial wind]

cerakeys has the same guarantee, but problem is i don't want to be emailing company to fix every single keycap that is misaligned

that shouldn't be a job on the consumer lol

[stark ridge]

Yea pretty crazy

But keychron ceramic is very thin

[glacial wind]

like on my set the space between [ and ] is so big vs every other key

and i could email them and get replacements sent out but it

just shouldn't be my job to do that

[fringe quarry]

novas still best switch? yes? okay good

[glossy pagoda]

That's why I don't want cerakeys, the tolerances just aren't great

[little glen]

never has been

[fringe quarry]

always will be

[glossy pagoda]

I don't blame them, I'm sure it's a very difficult thing to produce with the precision we'd want

[lilac inlet]

Yeah those keycaps don’t seem very straight on the edges

[cloud crane]

GMK or perish /s

[fringe quarry]

gmk kinda mid

[glossy pagoda]

Even if a set of green cerakeys would go GREAT with the aquamarine case I have

[little glen]

nah toasty is just rage baiting

[cloud crane]

Yea we ballin on SWG now

[fringe quarry]

not even bothering to make the keycaps smooth all around

just leaving the manufacturing bumps on there...

[fallen pecan]

Xvx has a ceramic set but mac legends on the bow, only $35 tho

[glacial wind]

I’m curious if their tolerances are decent or not

[stark ridge]

Ceramic or just coated

[fallen pecan]

ceramic ceramic

[glacial wind]

i had to pick between making a sound focused build vs aesthetic build recently, went with aesthetic otherwise i would i bought the ceramic set to check out

[fallen pecan]

not too exp if you wanna try em out

the pink/blue cherry legend set sold out tho

[glacial wind]

it's alright i got a set of gmk black snail for that build instead lol

[stark ridge]

If they have colors...maybe

[fallen pecan]

only these colors

[glossy pagoda]

I think these are absolutely gorgeous, but I ain't spending $400 on keycaps

[fallen pecan]

thats just the alphas too, for the set you need another $400

[cloud crane]

[glossy pagoda]

[fallen pecan]

and their primo set

[lilac inlet]

Some people just have too much money and too little to do i guess

At least it’s not as expensive as the aureus set

[glacial wind]

that's silly, you can buy an entire eiderdown pillow for that price

i know which i'm buying!

[chilly mural]

Or a couple $1k IEM/Headphone!

[ionic breach]

bruh what am i looking at

[glossy pagoda]

I need new pillows

[stark ridge]

Buy this for me plz

[ionic breach]

apparently some passed them down as heirlooms

[stark ridge]

I would lol

[fallen pecan]

ah just short

[ionic breach]

bird nest material icic

[lilac inlet]

https://eloquentclicks.com/collections/tools/products/secure-container-trotter-by-pelican yo wtf

what keyboards must you have to warrant a pelicase

[glacial wind]

that's the wooting retirement pillow that we'll be buying after we add AI to the company name and get acquired

[ionic breach]

oh damn pelican cases?

nice

[lilac inlet]

you'd basically need a golden keyboard to require a pelicase, but a sheik won't find this fashionable enough

[ionic breach]

i did see a luggage i lowkey want to get

it uses skateboard wheels lol

[ionic breach]

oh fk i cant skip this deal now

less than 200usd for a prvke

non high gloss black tho

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-buck-t-rex-t-rex-tyrannosaurus-rex-roaring-gif-23475287

Chevron you say?

[austere creek]

its more than 200usd

[ionic breach]

thats sgd

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[ionic breach]

singapore dollar

[ionic breach]

tho the usd is like really shit rn

lmao

[austere creek]

im aware

but 263sgd is more than 200usd

[ionic breach]

ngl im lost

[lilac inlet]

he gets 10% off as welcome offer

[lilac inlet]

yes it is lol

[austere creek]

the bag itself still basically is over 200usd

[ionic breach]

oh the final price is on the right

[austere creek]

pretty sure i saw 200eur offers in NL as well

[ionic breach]

its excluding the 10% discount

[austere creek]

yes

[ionic breach]

yea lol, but shipping to my country is like 60 usd iirc

if it wasnt i would have gotten the limited high gloss bag straight from then

i really like it

grabbing this wrap as well

[lilac inlet]

trying to line up products in one european kb store is very hard so far

and all i'm trying to combine is yikb stabilizers and the WS titanium tool in titanium color 🫠

[ionic breach]

yea eu stores never seem to be instock

idk why

[austere creek]

meanwhile the backpacks i buy

30eur for 65l

[lilac inlet]

that looks like nylon and not very waterproof

but might be the picture quality

[fringe quarry]

i just put a tshirt around it

[austere creek]

idk if pvc coating is waterproof or not

[lilac inlet]

i don't get the idea around this - is this just a sorta meme thing where you wrap something in a cloth burrito?

[lilac inlet]

pvc is very waterproof as long as the layer stays in one piece

[ionic breach]

just extra padding without needing a camera cube

[lilac inlet]

and if the straps get very wet the water may seep in through the seem fabric

[ionic breach]

also it looks cool

[lilac inlet]

ah okay

[glacial wind]

that is a nice wandrd sale

[ionic breach]

yup

2 sales stacked

[austere creek]

been using mine for a year through any weather really and it help up fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lilac inlet]

fair enough

[austere creek]

was great for christmas travels

fits my entire 2week clothing and more

[lilac inlet]

yeah it's a pretty big bag

[austere creek]

actually wanted a 100L one but they were sold out back then

so once this one dies ill get a 100l one

[fringe quarry]

100l???

[austere creek]

yes

[fringe quarry]

are u packing a whole kitchen

[austere creek]

no

so theres sort of 3 scenarios:

1. i dont need a backpack or such
2. i need my laptop bag (can already fit quite a bit)
3. i need a backpack (my current one usually barely fits everything)

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mary-poppins-purse-gif-10878617

[glacial wind]

i might pick up the 15l actually

i need something for just very light carry but not full everything bag. Have the 21L peak design for more everything carry and sling for just 1 camera + lens

[ionic breach]

oh from wandrd directly?

they are also having a sale

[glacial wind]

yeah wandrd are good in that when they do a sale they sale everywhere

it's on amazon for sale pricing as well

[ionic breach]

yea

saw a 15usd wallet

[cloud crane]

Ratkorn

[lilac inlet]

🫠 i found store that sells both the stabs and the tool, the stabs only come in 60 set variant box

better just order from aliexpress i guess

[vivid star]

Has anyone found aftermarket springs that fit Keytok Novas? I tried TX magnetic springs, but they seem to be about 0.2mm wider than the stock ones, causing noticeable friction during the keypress. Looking for something with a tighter diameter that remains smooth.

[sly palm]

Check your SOCD and make sure to set it up right

Wait, then I don't understand your issue, also could you post this in #1019755933959733258 instead

Don't wanna spam this channel with unrelated stuff

[floral summit]

Oh damn, just realised i was in the worng chat. Sorry. Will delete and move it there. Thanks

[icy sand]

how come after accidently unscrewing my stab screws my keys are hard to push down and pulll up whne I screw them back in

[glacial wind]

did you screw them in too hard or did one of the clipped in sides fall out of place maybe?

[little glen]

yeah sounds like the stabs may not be installed quite correctly

[icy sand]

oh ok

i srewd it in till it was pretty snug

could taht be an issue?