🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

That’s just how the keys move

[mellow sedge]

lmao gg i was thinking about putting putty or some dampening material in it

[glacial wind]

If you really care this much about rattle/chatter you should be using more stable switches

Tikkens are fine but they’re not focused on being the least movement/chatter sound

[broken notch]

Maybe not the best example but I replaced my stabs yday

[mellow sedge]

w rattle

thats crazy theres like no rattle at all

[broken notch]

They are Typeplus x Yikbd

You can find them on aliexpress

[mellow sedge]

i saw they were on amazon but like i just went for the durocks cause they came quicker

[broken notch]

Ouch

[mellow sedge]

i couldnt wait i already waited 16 days with the case lmao

[broken notch]

I feel you

[mellow sedge]

it was stuck in their us warehouse for 6 whole days because they forgot

https://giphy.com/gifs/brain-brainless-qwertyy-Ss0uxnoeWMdIOl64nG

[oak jewel]

I did the same and it's crazy how little my bigger keys wobble rn

that + UFOs and the keys are basically locked in place

[broken notch]

Niiice

[heavy vale]

how is factory lube on novas? are they worth hand lubing?

[fringe quarry]

im fine with it

[broken notch]

Hell yeah!

This + wootility is the best my fingies have ever typed tbh

[oak jewel]

they are slightly confusing to instal tho

took me a minute to realize they differentiate right and left

[oak jewel]

name a better feeling @sacred elm

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/descubrir-risto-mejide-got-talent-espana-abrir-destapar-gif-23734113

[sacred elm]

Keycaps?

[oak jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldinho-tongue-gif-23905918

[little glen]

Oblotzky better ship my order yesterday

[glacial wind]

see this could be you alex

you could be also like wizard waiting in anticipation for your $30 1.25u spacebar keys

[little glen]

I‘m more excited for the artisan and skulls

But at least i‘ll be ready for split space 80he update

[broken notch]

Spoiler leak

[paper bloom]

That timing LOL

[oak jewel]

who says I'm not

[glacial wind]

oh, poor wizard, his hasn't even shipped

what did you do to anger the mictlan gods @little glen

[little glen]

:(

My luck been too good this week

Something has to balance it out

[austere creek]

maybe you will stay single

[little glen]

That bothers me less than my keycaps not shipping

[glacial wind]

you'll also be ready for the wooting 80he off center spacebar

[little glen]

Preparing for every contingency

[oak jewel]

80he but the spacebar is 5x 1.25u

[glacial wind]

it's such a crazy format to have as part of kitting lol

6u off center stem spacebar

how many people have been sitting waiting for that to be in a kit

[glacial wind]

tx moved to naver store now btw, so a lot of the stuff that is 'out of stock' is actually in stock but just on korea side https://smartstore.naver.com/txkeyboard

[fringe quarry]

can they stop having their own internet

[glacial wind]

i saw people saying 'oh the tx stubby cnc puller is out of stock in places for ages now' then i checked naver store and it's all been in stock and they even give you a free one if you order $50 of items lol

the switch pusher one cracks me up. I can see the use if you're someone working in a shop and doing like 5 keyboards in a day I guess

[cloud crane]

Mmmm TX KEYBOARD 中国代理2号店

[little glen]

If you have your switch puller you gotta have a switch pusher as well

[calm pulsar]

switch pusher sounds like someone who's illegally selling switches on the street

bro <@&1098943457654997093>

[fallen pecan]

Not selling that well in china

[glacial wind]

It’s very pricy so I don’t think it’ll ever be a mass market product

i can buy 4 of their regular tx puller for price of one cnc tx puller

interesting that they went as far as getting chinese patent for it though

[wispy wharf]

Following

[cloud crane]

Mmm

[trail bane]

Indeed

[glossy pagoda]

First one's free

[calm pulsar]

WS tactics

[chilly mural]

First Diamond is free, second one cost $2

[calm pulsar]

no wonder my diamonds from aliexpress came packed like crystal meth

[glacial wind]

Oh good, exactly the price @fluid ravine wanted

so when I said $5k i meant only the camera

good to have another $2k for the lens

[calm pulsar]

Euro/Dollars are now 1:1 when setting product prices

one step closer to cyberpunk

[chilly mural]

67!!!!

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/walajuku-walajukuevans-you-need-to-leave-angry-old-lady-mad-old-lady-gif-22723554

[lilac inlet]

where's that?

[calm pulsar]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[lilac inlet]

oh shit i need glasses

[fervent galleon]

yo guys do you think the GravaStar UFO are good?

[fallen pecan]

nah that purple is cheeks

[fervent galleon]

so i should get the white/silver ones?

[fallen pecan]

i prefer the pink ones

[fervent galleon]

there are pink ones? i just saw purple and white ufo's

[fallen pecan]

yep you can get em on aliexpress

[fervent galleon]

do u have a link?

[fallen pecan]

I just found this on AliExpress: | GravaStar UFO Pink Peach Magnetic Switch Linear RT0.001mm Custom Peach-shaped Light Guide Column Switches RGB N52H for DIY Gamer
https://a.aliexpress.com/_c3BYA7aT

[fervent galleon]

i cant get them in my country

[fallen pecan]

oof too bad then, silvers it is

[fervent galleon]

why is puple bad?

[broken notch]

There's nothing wrong with them

They're the exact same bar the slight purple tone on RGB

[fervent galleon]

thats fine for me

[cyan lark]

Continuing on a long string of the USPS underpromising and overdelivering, looks like my aqua case is arriving today instead of Monday 😍 🦅

[solar tundra]

Wait are the Gravastar Ufos any different except the Color?

[sweet oak]

Damn i didnt know six realms and thunderflash existed

Is there anything special about them? Might pick one of those up instead of diamonds

[glacial wind]

Six realms is budget version of Wuque flux basically

[sweet oak]

Nice nice

[magic forge]

anyonw know where to get transparent low profile keycaps for mx?

nsa*

[last tundra]

Don’t see why they would be any different. They are injection molded I guess? Or maybe not because they are small, so don’t quote me on this, but the only difference in manufacturing process (whatever that may be) is the difference in pigment. So other than that it should be exactly the same

[paper bloom]

thas funny

[devout peak]

hey guys just got some gravastar switches for my wooting 60hev2 and am looking for some good keycaps recommendations i have the split ansi and am new to modding

[sly palm]

check some gmk or kkb sets, some of them have the keys/kits for split sb

[ionic breach]

kbdfans and keyreative as well

[devout peak]

ok thanks and are different types better or is it all preference as far as keycap shape and material

[ionic breach]

pbt is smoother and abs has texture generally

shape is preference too

pbt is also more resistant to shining

[solar tundra]

Why is my 7 Key constantly Pressed?

[lilac inlet]

did you try to unplug the keyboard and power it back on to let it recalibrate?

iirc it takes like 10 seconds for the keyboard to calibrate on startup so shouldn't press any buttons during that time

[solar tundra]

oh yeah goat

Thought that Switch is broke somehow

[lilac inlet]

hehe no worries

[fervent galleon]

i use pudding keycaps bc they are shine through

[river shore]

stem spacers, necessary?

[sacred elm]

no

[paper knoll]

i got a 60he v2 and for now its stock, any modding recommendations?

[sly palm]

#🪛│modding_faq, no need to ask in multiple channels

[devout peak]

i want to get the holy60 case i see a lot of dupes does anyone recommend the dupe or should i just get the real one

[paper knoll]

i do understand but cant i ask for any recommendations from people?

[sly palm]

that's not what I said, just wanted to let you know that one channel is usually enough

[broken notch]

Just get the dupe if you're on a budget

Just know it's too tight for a friction fit

I had the dupe, it was just fine

[devout peak]

so ima get the real one then

did you end up switching ?

[river shore]

does friction fitting negate the need to ground our keebs? i just came across the wooting grounding vid

[sly palm]

you still have to ground it

that said video explains it afaik

[cyan lark]

Spring fit update (cc @glossy pagoda , follow up on Salt Lake / Aqua)

[glacial wind]

Looks quite nice match

[cyan lark]

Agreed. Only complaint about it aesthetically is the cutout for the port is a bit ugly since it's chopped out of the top instead of a hole in the side

I did push the module down more to make it not kink out like that - tight fit!

[glossy pagoda]

Ooeh nice

[little glen]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1499830184881160333 his switches have depression 😭

[tropic urchin]

Tbf if I was using a 2HE my diamonds would be depressed too

Same with my wallet

[woven violet]

oi oi, it's been a half year since i came and asked some stuff- my xmas present was new switches/keycaps/mousepad and mouse... now, soon my bday is coming up so i wanna do some modding again ;p ... basically i have the 80HE with a GT-80 kbdfans case, some tape mod, stabs and a few small things aswell, i used to have geon raws but wanted something a bit more deep and thocky so i got advised the Wuque studio WS flux deep clacks... allthough, i do love them i somehow feel like i liked my geon raws maybe a bit better... i kept using the WS fluxes though. Anyhow, i wonder if there are switches around which are maybe... a bit more marbly? lately i've been looking at some more creamy / marbly sounding stuff and i appear to be enjoying that alot... so, anyone who could advise me some switches that are more marbly sounding?

[regal patio]

Wooting sound tests

[tropic urchin]

What plate are you using rn

For marbly I’d recommend POM plate and poron case foam (poron gasket too but you’ll get some sliding since it’s softer than silicone)

[woven violet]

ima be honest, i dont know which plate is in there... i cant even recall if it came with the gt-80 case or it was from the original wooting 80he module XD

[tropic urchin]

Original plate is going to be PC which is extremely flexy and kinda kills most sound

POM is slightly more rigid, but combined with poron case foam it gets you a lot closer to a marbly profile

[woven violet]

yeah im checking my mails to see if i had a different one when i ordered my module

[tropic urchin]

Wooting only offers the PC plate on module or FR4 on the tenz collab, so you’d have to get it via a 3rd party (torontokeyboardman, hypekeyboard or look for one on aliexpress)

There’s other options besides those but those are a quick and dirty few avenues to explore

[woven violet]

this is what i had back then, and then ofcourse i ordered the gt80 case at kbd fans so i guess its pc

[woven violet]

currently looking at the gravastar ufo switches but, damn theyre expensive AF even on alie...

[tropic urchin]

UFOs are nice for marbly but you can’t really open them without destroying the switch, so over time they’ll eventually become sharper once the factory lube eventually disappears

IMO, you could stick with deep clack flux and just change the plate and foam you use and you should be good to go

[woven violet]

ooh, where do u recommend i buy the pom plate from, on alie i am looking but im not sure if i got the correct one - for screw in stabs.... ugh, i used to mod so much more but my fiancee wont let me since the past half year as i spent so much on my keeb

[tropic urchin]

Torontokeyboardman —> quick and easy, Hypekeyboards is custom made so you’ll need to have some info on the dimensions (Tom is great and can help with that) or search Aliexpress (Keyboard fun store)

[woven violet]

arent like the wooting 80he plates known though, with dimensions ?

guesing torontokeyboardman doesnt send to belgium xD

[tropic urchin]

Not specifically dimensions, but there’s a few drop down menus you gotta fill in @woven violet

You can select “I see the file on the list” since I’ve sent in a few orders, it’ll be on his list even if it doesn’t specifically look to be on it

But that’s an example of what I mean

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Can also use this link aggregator to find more local vendors if those end up not working for you

[woven violet]

well i was first looking atm if the torontokeyboardmans mod kit works on a GT-80 case, which according to google, it does

so i might just buy that with a black pom plate

what about carbon fibre or fr4 plates ?

or is pom best to get marbly ish

[tropic urchin]

Yes it does

My POM plate/poron foam came from them

[tropic urchin]

Those are also good, CF is extremely rigid and clacky (good plate, but not necessarily a good marbly contender), FR4 is also good (slightly more rigid than POM, but has a more neutral sound to it)

POM/FR4 probably the best if you don’t wanna go down a rabbit hole trying new plates, but I liked POM better with poron personally

[woven violet]

thing is, somehow i found my geon raws to sound a bit deeper than the ws deep fluxes

somehow...

[tropic urchin]

Idk it all depends on the environment of your board

[woven violet]

without any changes

[tropic urchin]

Deep clack fluxies were a deeper jade pro and RAWs were kind of a generic clack

[woven violet]

then i had my new keycaps and i liked the wuques a bit more, didnt test the geons with em

[tropic urchin]

Raws sounded dead af on PC plate

So once you swap it out you should see a bit more of a difference

To achieve proper marbly, you need to create a marbly environment for your switches

Which is poron foam and sometimes plastic plates (specifically POM in my experience)

[woven violet]

i dunno which type of foam i have in here, i removed the standard module foam and replaced it with a foam i got from the hardware store which is to use for behind heaters

i kinda liked it more then the original foam ;p

i must tell u, my total keyboard cost with the gt80 case back when i got it last year for my bday was 600 euros, then xmas came and i spent another 100ish eurpos to switches and keycaps

[tropic urchin]

Now you’re just missing a nice GMK set for a proper divorce /s

[woven violet]

now my bday comes again and im spending another 200 euros budget ;p

yeah my switches are a gmk clone haha

laser waves

combined with the lamzu maya shadow purple mouse and tentaX octogrip purpel mouse pad XD

and rgb on pc finetuned to match the purple and red from the keycaps

anyhow. i wanna switch up my colourway to something else... soooo

need new keycaps, mouse and mousepad Xd

and switches arent nessecairy but as said id like to change sound profile ;p

make that budget 250

[calm pulsar]

who took a bite out of the case😭

[cyan lark]

Look it's Friday and maybe I wanted to treat myself to a little silicone treat 🤤

So low profile I can for the first time see its legs under the dress 💃

[regal patio]

Kois

[cyan lark]

DCF

[regal patio]

[sly palm]

The stab

[sacred elm]

If you want deep sounding switch, check Keytok Nova. It's the deepest currently, but pricy

[woven violet]

sooo, pom plate, poron foam and which switches u think woud be most marbly ?

[regal patio]

Keytok Novas

I'll rerecord the sound test after I finish lubing the switches

[sly palm]

What about your "well" lubed novas

[glossy pagoda]

The RGB on this aquamarine case is so pretty 🤩

[regal patio]

Well

I lubed like 40

[cyan lark]

I'm looking forward to sunset to see it better 🙂

share your pic my dude

[regal patio]

And now I'm on holidays so I can't finish lubing

[regal patio]

They sound very soft

[tropic urchin]

I liked deep clack flux for that build personally, since your fiancée already is giving you the side eye, I’d stick with those imo

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-rgb-gif-22003887

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cheat-light-switch-rave-gif-5527541

[chilly mural]

Hmmm, just need transparent switches, transparent keycap, and transparent plate

also make the pcb white

[glossy pagoda]

Erik has a build like that

[broken notch]

But how?! You aren't home!

[glossy pagoda]

I am!

Now

[broken notch]

:O

[glossy pagoda]

#1294320351362285578 message

[glossy pagoda]

Skill issue

[broken notch]

[glossy pagoda]

I think @quick finch has that clear 60HE case now

[quick finch]

i wish :(

[glossy pagoda]

Oh you don't? Sadness

[quick finch]

i have keycaps that are similar, on a full transparent build but on 80HE

[glossy pagoda]

Ahh with a frost case?

[woven violet]

this doesn't sound bad though, kinda like it

[quick finch]

yes

[woven violet]

hahahaha ;p wellll, i got a budget so as long as i stick to it, even if i go slightly above she doesnt mind ;p so far i got the 37 euros for the modman kit and im guessing around 50ish for the keycaps

[quick finch]

i think it was simon that had a clear 60he case? not sure

[stray tiger]

This is so good!

[glossy pagoda]

What do you mean good, it's gawdy as fuck

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

When lightmode on your monitor isn't enough pain and suffering

[quick finch]

mine is much worse

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-black-child-exorcist-savun-gif-2886110114740383915

[lethal ingot]

Does anyone know where I can get some six realms silent switches

[regal patio]

Ali probably

[lethal ingot]

kk

[cyan lark]

15 months now since I put in my order for GMK Motif. I wonder if I'll still be alive when it finally ships.

[chilly mural]

Be careful with what you wish for, you might just die by the time you put your hand on it

[cyan lark]

I just know I ain’t getting younger 🧓

[humble surge]

GMK Selene when

[trail bane]

April 31th

Gn

[silk hound]

[sweet oak]

Better be well exploded too

[lofty birch]

Are you able to see what letters you’re pressing at night?

I had some smoke key caps that look cool in the day time, but when it’s dark and the RGB comes off it’s impossible to see what letter I’m pressing even with the brightness low

[quasi oasis]

Does HE zinc have black color or only white and raw?

I mean 80HE

[quick finch]

Yes actually. I have a couple sets of grey smokey keycaps with white legends and on those I can't really read them when it's dark and RGB is bright.

But these white ones are very visible always

[wispy wharf]

has anyone tried the pink mount tai switches?

[fallen pecan]

Sno has

[wispy wharf]

they are in the database?

[fallen pecan]

P4etty sure

[wispy wharf]

cannot find

i see taishan gt pink

[fallen pecan]

That's it

[wispy wharf]

those actually seem nice

[fallen pecan]

They're fine , was trending for a bit in China

[wispy wharf]

they seem deeper muted?

[fallen pecan]

Yes

[wispy wharf]

hmm

might try these

not sure how the lubing is gonna be

it has a bizzare stem

[fallen pecan]

At least they come open unlike the ufo

[wispy wharf]

lmao

true

[fallen pecan]

More like the whole stem comes out from the top

[wispy wharf]

yeah

i am not sure it even has rails

[fallen pecan]

Surely

[wispy wharf]

the ali listing says it cannot be opened?

this has 3.4mm travel might as well get the novas

[fallen pecan]

the top and bottom can be separated, seen a few vids that did that

[wispy wharf]

i see i see

still probably better off with the novas though i don't know if i would like them any better than the deep clacky

[broken notch]

Can't go wrong with Novas

[wispy wharf]

https://divinikey.com/products/fourwraps-v2-stabilizers

yo these are stateside now!

[glacial wind]

Drift gray best color for sure.

[wispy wharf]

i want to try them but i don't want to go through all the effort and then not like them

[wispy wharf]

knob

[glacial wind]

They’re like semi silent but not fully

Honestly not a fan. It’s weird mix of kinda silent but not

[wispy wharf]

hmm

extreme muting

anyway i feel like we need a stabilizer database for comparison of like sound, stability, press feel, etc

[broken notch]

You got yours?!

I want mine to arrive ;_;

[regal patio]

Q5 2067

[glacial wind]

Yeah mine came from contact though so it’s probably separate from the other stock

[glacial wind]

Stabilizers database would be like “just go buy knight or yikb and be done” lol

[wispy wharf]

But what about that new new

[broken notch]

Last I heard mine was going overseas still

[glacial wind]

There’s nothing much to improve really, the yikb are already crazy tight then for folks who want slightly more give they buy knights and neither have ticking

[wispy wharf]

Ok but what about typeplus sound

[glacial wind]

even stock stabs people have hard time noticing difference if well tuned

I’ve run a test before where I asked people to guess which was stock relubed vs knights and people couldn’t tell

[wispy wharf]

Could they pick out typeplus

[glacial wind]

Typeplus maybe just from the top out being tighter

[broken notch]

I can let you hear my typeplus if you wanted me to

[glacial wind]

Some people prefer knights over typeplus just for the top out, but honestly both are great

[broken notch]

Yellow keys are typelus x yikbd

[glacial wind]

Yikb are noticeably the least movement stabs I’ve tried though, so usually if people care about stab tightness I tell them to get yikb

[wispy wharf]

The top out sounds odd on the typeplus and they are a bit clacky on the bottom

[wispy wharf]

More tight than fourwraps v2?

[glacial wind]

I haven’t tried fourwraps, haven’t had a reason to yet

stabs aren’t like switches where there’s some drastic change, they either don’t tick or do tick, once properly lubed it doesn’t matter anymore

[wispy wharf]

I cannot imagine anyone wanting anything but extreme stability but what do I know

[glacial wind]

tight can change feel of the movement

Some folks want a bit more give

[wispy wharf]

Hmm

Give is ok when it's the same consistency as the press

[broken notch]

I got yikbd because knights were troublesome to get tbh

[fallen pecan]

i wanna try these ttc ones with the booties but they're expensive for what they are

[glacial wind]

I’ve heard the designer studio pcb stabs are good too

[broken notch]

They got lil wellies on;

[glacial wind]

But honestly knights and yikb both so readily available in Korea I haven’t had a reason to buy others yet

We even have the new pre lubed knights now

[wispy wharf]

That is the strangest stabilizer I've yet seen

[broken notch]

I want typeplus x yikbd, but in translucent plastic :(

[fallen pecan]

i can get any stab from china pre lubed so not an issue for me usually, designer studio ones are great value

[little glen]

The best stabs get out of the way and dont give any specific sound profile

[wispy wharf]

I don't think pok comes transparent

[little glen]

Translucent with gold plated wire like knight v2 used to be

[glacial wind]

That’s why people like knights honestly. They just do their job and don’t change anything

[wispy wharf]

Typeplus feel like this to me: they add nothing to the press but stability

Don't knights add friction from the silicone?

[little glen]

Yeah both the typeplus and knight are good

[glacial wind]

These days if I’m changing stabs I usually buy typeplus just because it comes in the big pack for extra split wires

[little glen]

Just buy whatever is cheaper

[broken notch]

Yeah the 100x typeplus us perfect for split

[wispy wharf]

I like how the typeplus comes with the little pads

[wispy wharf]

Wait what

[little glen]

My 60he v2 currently has 1 knight v2 and the rest is typeplus

[wispy wharf]

They come in 100 pack?

[little glen]

Cause i didnt have that set

[broken notch]

100 size, yea

[wispy wharf]

Oh that makes so much more sense

[little glen]

I still have a set of typeplus stabs on hand

[broken notch]

I didn't use the little pads tbh

[little glen]

Maybe i swap out my knights and use those on my upcoming backup board

[wispy wharf]

Doomsday prepper stocking up on typeplus

I don't think they would be good for a silent build tbh

[little glen]

Nah i just needed some amount to fill minimum cart value to ship to me

So i added 2 sets of typeplus stabs to my order

[wispy wharf]

I think some stab housings make more sound than others

Like I remember tx housings had this like scratchy sound you could hear from not too close

[regal patio]

Lekker themed stabs

[glacial wind]

Friction fit into zoom64

Definitely not ideal fit though, better to use it’s own plate

[glacial wind]

Mostly the left and right movement can be a bit janky friction fitting. It’s still okay ish but you can push it a bit too much one way without the proper plate

[broken notch]

Oh hell yeah!

I'm so hyped aaaa

How is the scrollwheel? @glacial wind

[glacial wind]

Works fine, it just defaults to volume which is fine for me

Sits a tad high with my old foam under, I’ll swap out the foam for polyfill when I get some time

[broken notch]

Odd question

What exactly is polyfill?

Would you mind video'ing putting polyfil into that specific case?

[glacial wind]

polyfill is just the stuffing in teddybears and such

people replace foam/silicone case dampening with it sometimes

it gives a clean sound and it's easier to modify the amount you put in for the right thickness

[broken notch]

ah just fluffyness?

Where do you even buy such?

[glacial wind]

yeah it's just that fluffy stuffing

aliexpress/amazon etc sell packs of it

[little glen]

I bought mine at a hobby store in my city

5 euro for more than i would ever need in a keyboard

[glacial wind]

out there somewhere is someone with too much money buying 100% canadian goose down for their fill

[little glen]

It‘s just polyester stuffing

[little glen]

Idek if that‘s a smart idea

It might conduct electricity

[glacial wind]

i've been looking at pillows lately. I want to try one of those $300 pillows one day

the 100% canadian goose down ones, but what if i don't like it

then i'm stuck with a $300 pillow that's worthless

[little glen]

No alpaca wool?

[broken notch]

Life of a consoomer :p

[glacial wind]

they say the canadian goose down is the best one, that's why it's $300 lol

[little glen]

Alpaca wool aint cheap either

[glacial wind]

most down pillows are feather + down, but you can buy ones that are purely the down, just it becomes $300

[uneven cradle]

https://icelandicdown.com/product/eiderdown-pillow/

gotta aim higher

[little glen]

I hate those soft pillows cause i have a big ass head that turns every soft pillow into no pillow

[glacial wind]

Oh yeah I saw those too. The eiderdown $3k pillows lol

[little glen]

I also dislike animal feather/etc pillows cause the feathers will punch through the casing and poke at you

Very unpleasant

[glacial wind]

yeah that's why you buy only down ones, but then price goes from $100 to $250-300 lol

the cheap ones all use feathers to make up the filling better, cause otherwise you need tons of down

[uneven cradle]

I got a pretty nice duvet recently

big upgrade

[glacial wind]

i got stash of oceans arrived too

so can do soundtest monday for the oceans as well now

[iron trellis]

Guys should I buy UFOs switches instead of Tikkens ?

[broken notch]

I lubed the housing of my stabs with a little switch lube now @little glen

[little glen]

Very nice

[iron trellis]

?

[broken notch]

We cannot answer such for you

You need to make your own conclusions

[glacial wind]

After using it for a bit honestly friction fit is fine. I have to put some real pressure to make it actually move so once it’s centered it seems good enough

Using the plate made for it still better of course, but in a pinch friction fit seems to be no issue

There’s no grounding though of course

[broken notch]

ill use the plate regardless as I got a CF one made

[sacred elm]

Maybe it's grounded with these screws? like 80HE daughterboard

[glacial wind]

hrm maybe, it does go through daughterboard so might be okay

[sacred elm]

ye

[glacial wind]

yeah if i were using it as only case i'd get a plate made for it. Since i have to swap cases so much I don't want to do the whole plate thing since it makes it a pain when i have to swap it into another case lol

looks great overall though, the copper color accents on drift grey is super unique

[sacred elm]

the knob has its software right?

[glacial wind]

get im shafie!

i assume there's some knob software somewhere, I'm not touching it though since volume is fine for me

[broken notch]

Same, it uses VIA

The knob

https://caniusevia.com/

@sacred elm incase you wanted to know!

[sacred elm]

I was just curious. I don't like cases with accent pieces, knobs, wheels, etc

[trail bane]

[cloud crane]

Nahhhhh let holy series die

[trail bane]

It looks like 60% Top mount

Big ass bezels

[cloud crane]

Can they just make like a tried and true halineko instead of making random stuff

[sacred elm]

instead show me gt60 v2 without accents and we can talk kbdfans

[round sparrow]

need more 80 case options

[glacial wind]

true, when optimum 80he

wtf lofree hyzen is 12 degrees?

that's quite the choice

[lilac inlet]

wrist-rest not optional

[hard fern]

but muh tesla cybertruck aesthetic

[glacial wind]

i actually don't mind the aesthetic, it looks very industrial

but 12 degrees is a huge no go lol

[hard fern]

it reminds me of a dac/amp with the knobs and dials

i dig that

[glacial wind]

and the whole tmr/wireless/mx combination thing is pointless to me

[hard fern]

the more perplexing thing is adding an mx leaf to the HE switch

[glacial wind]

yeah i don't understand what the goal is with any of the hybrid keyboards

who is picking between HE/MX and saying "no I want neither, i'm going to do 1/3 he, 2/3 mx"

[hard fern]

could have the software auto detect magnets from the switch instead we have this user defined switch for the whole keyboard

shrug

[chilly mural]

Tmr, but need wired for less latency. Wireless, but tmr needs to be amplified. Mx, but not as performant as Tmr.

[glacial wind]

to me you just picked the worst of both worlds when you mix he and mx like that

now your keyboard is going to sound weird when you type because you'll randomly hit HE keys

[hard fern]

lazy man's implementation for the lack of software polish imo

[glacial wind]

and you only have HE capability on a few keys now

every main target demographic i can think of would just rather have full MX or full HE

[hard fern]

the hyzen can only activate HE mode OR MX mode it cannot use both switches are the same time

[lilac inlet]

hey you can use that as a bat for burglars in the middle of night

[hard fern]

that's why the inbox switch has both (shitty reason but yes)

[chilly mural]

That's even worse

[glacial wind]

oh that's even more odd

lol

[hard fern]

that's why i said it was the lazy man's implemetation

[glacial wind]

the whole thing is weird, both hyzen and the logitech keyboard that is also hybrid

[sly palm]

But hipyo exists

[hard fern]

logitech keyboard is typical gamer aesthetic done even worse

[glacial wind]

i seriously want to know if hipyo is out there advising some of these brands because i don't know who the market is for these

[lilac inlet]

https://tenor.com/bRZPG.gif

[glacial wind]

the average gamer doesn't care enough about sound to not just have full HE switches

the enthusiast sound guys would just go full MX

[lilac inlet]

i hate embeds on pc 🙂

[glacial wind]

so who on earth is this weird demographic that would ever pick 1/3 HE 2/3 MX

[hard fern]

tbh most of these keyboard reviewers barely game so them reviewing he keyboards is kinda ironic

[glacial wind]

or they cheat and get boosted ranks, who i shall not name

[sly palm]

Only person I know would be hipyo

[hard fern]

like there's so many "budget" boards that get a glowing pass from these reviewers and their HE software is barely limping along

[glacial wind]

but if you're going to do that at least hide your match history so people can't view your valorant profile and see you used 5 stacks with people on low mmr accounts to cheat your way to high rank

[hard fern]

bruh

not to say wooting's software is bulletproof (pretty close but I've run into a few bugs)

[glacial wind]

yeah that's the thing with HE, you always need updates

and not having a dedicated team on updates is such a downside

meanwhile like 90% of the boards out there literally just wait for whatever update their oem supplier gives them and you're not getting the tailored updates and bug fixes you need

[hard fern]

My og 60HE v1 gamepad's doesn't get detected by steam anymore (invalid software S/N maybe) whereas my v2 is fine, fully updated on both units

[glacial wind]

should contact support if it's still in the 4 year warranty

[hard fern]

definitely worth a shot, just haven't gotten around to it

[lilac inlet]

i had to turn it off and on a few times but never had any big issues and i have the 60he v1

since 2022

[hard fern]

nah it's been a persistent issue throughout for a few months now, generic Controller mode works but not XBOX

[lilac inlet]

interesting

[hard fern]

but yeah other than that my wooting's been solid, it's jsut that since some steam updates 4ish months ago it stopped detecting it

what's everyone's preferred travel distance for their switch?

[glacial wind]

i like anything in 3.5mm range personally, but not really too bothered. You adjust to it fairly quick

[lilac inlet]

0.4-0.7 for usual things, 2.5 for less desirable keys, 4.0 for really undesirable keys

[hard fern]

I get the sense of that being a lekker user and mainline MX switch user for the past couple years. Currently on this Titan HE switch and my accuracy/speed isn't impeded at all

[chilly mural]

3.5mm for all except for something like windows key, then I set it to 4mm (assuming it's 4mm switch)

[hard fern]

that being your actuation setting or full travel for the switch?

[glacial wind]

after like a week you adjust to whatever travel distance it is i've found

although it's interesting how travel and press weight impacts typing

when i'm testing new switches that are too different from my current ones in weight/travel i suddenly can't even type proper sentences

[chilly mural]

actuation

[hard fern]

Yeah, the new Tikkens actually slowed me down with the extra initial force needed

Almost tactile-bump-ish

[glacial wind]

it's like you get used to the sound and press length and it throws you off a lot when you press a key and move to the next key but it didn't behave how you expected

[trail bane]

Logislop one aren’t even fully compatible with HE

[lilac inlet]

ah you mean actual switch distance, my bad

[trail bane]

Only several keys have HE sensors under them

[glacial wind]

i don't really understand that logitech product at all. It feels like even for them a confusing product

[hard fern]

superlight and sponsorships keeping logi's gaming division afloat

[glacial wind]

it's like they just put their name on some weird chinese tmr keyboard because i don't understand who looked at that and said 'this is the keyboard we want'

it reminds me of the homer simpson car

[trail bane]

Absolutely

[hard fern]

their brick and mortar presence definitely helps too

[lilac inlet]

i think it's because they're hoping to jump on the hype bandwagon since they're getting more publicity with their gaming mice

[glacial wind]

folks probably too young for that reference, but it was a car that homer was allowed to design 'for the everyday man' and it was a crazy build of random stuff

[sly palm]

<@&1098943457654997093>

[hard fern]

🔨

[sly palm]

Crunch that guy

[chilly mural]

oh, a new one

[sly palm]

The car got at least for wheels

[lilac inlet]

logitech is probably hoping to be a bigger presence in the keyboard sector so they're using "new tech" to attract people since HE kinda took over the KB market imo

[trail bane]

Nah I’m just to slavic for this

[lilac inlet]

there's still fans of steelseries, razer, logitech etc but imo those brands don't really compare to wooting and more serious kb brands

[hard fern]

love this new little thing they snuck in the recent update changelog, it's huge for me
Support new Mod Tap JIT Tap key option

should be a standard for mod tap imo

[glacial wind]

yeah the fans of those mainstream brands buy it based on brand power and not knowing about newer stuff mostly

[lilac inlet]

yeah what i see often is that they buy everything from "their brand" so establishing yourself as that brand is very big money for them

[glacial wind]

like i have multiple friends irl who bought $200 logitech keyboards even when i told them i can get them a wooting with my friends discount

and they bought it just because they liked their old logitech keyboard

they didn't even buy the HE version because average joes don't even know what HE is still

[hard fern]

i think it;s just stages in a gamer's hobby, everyone looks at razer/logitech at surface/entry level and with enough time they know better (hopefully)

[lilac inlet]

if wooting were to sell mice aswell, they could instead tap into this "one brand for peripherals" in a way because even people wanted to buy that keyboard from finalmouse

[hard fern]

that isn;t to say there's 9-5 people too busy to keep up with the tech

[glacial wind]

it'll eventually leak into more mainstream, but a lot of people still look at HE as another gimmick technology not any different from the 409281 other 'new gaming fast speed tech'

[hard fern]

i'm a big proponent of HE, it won't make anyone a worse gamer but it also doesn't guarantee the opposite

[lilac inlet]

for most people yes, i think some don't really evolve in that regard though

i know plenty of "serious gamers" that have a €25 or some keyboard that just about has anti-ghosting

[hard fern]

and i think we're kind of in the growing stages of HE still, look at the HE switches with exorbitant gamer tax

[uneven cradle]

I've managed to covert a few friends over

[sly palm]

I managed to convert my cousin and a friend

[hard fern]

same, i dragged a numpad hugger to the 65% HE life

[glacial wind]

i'm maybe 50/50, i converted a few friends but they were already in esports scene so they had heard of wooting

[hard fern]

guy was rotting away waiting for a decent 98% HE

[lilac inlet]

honestly most of the people i tried to get into HE (mainly wooting 60/80) are just turned off by the price point - they don't believe a keyboard will ever be worth that kind of money and so they usually stick with €35 maybe up to €100 range

[glacial wind]

the ones not into scene are the tricky ones to convert

[hard fern]

meanwhile custom mech community:

[glacial wind]

i can understand it to a certain level, because I was weary of dropping the money on a wooting too when i first heard of it

[uneven cradle]

Even the concept of spending that much on a keyboard is too much for some of them

If I tell them about how much I've spent they may implode

[sly palm]

Nah they stick with 200€ logislop because they know their name

[hard fern]

to be fair a lot of casuals won't benefit much from HE, it is there just miniscule

[lilac inlet]

that is also possible

[hard fern]

and game dependent

[glacial wind]

it's hard to be convinced that this tech is the 'new one that matters' when you've been sold so many fake advances before

[lilac inlet]

i know someone that dropped like 200-250 on a steelseries and i cried a little inside

[chilly mural]

0.001 rt is the current day of such

[hard fern]

everyone knows knobs increase gaming performance by x number of RGB side glow you have

[glacial wind]

valorant friends were easiest to convert because they just had to play on it once if they were a decent rank

[lilac inlet]

i'm not even an avid collector but also managed to rake up quite a bit of a bill for one big overhaul project so i can imagine lmao

[glacial wind]

it's one of the games where it's instantly 'oh yeah, this is 100% better"

when you shoot that instant faster it's obvious

[lilac inlet]

that's a good point i gotta sell my friends on league of legends since they love that

[tidal frigate]

Is valorant huge in asia?

[uneven cradle]

The multi OS compatibility has been nice since I'm basically using macOS, Linux and Windows atm

[glacial wind]

valorant is huge everywhere except EU

[hard fern]

depends on the movement system, games with a lot of movement deceleration won't benefit as much, valorant's accuracy per movement also helps a lot

[sly palm]

Wait, it isn't huge in EU
Like maybe E Sports but I thought many people play it here

[tidal frigate]

It mean counterstrike is mainly eu South america and maybe little bit asia

[sly palm]

Especially the french, they keep annoying me in games

[glacial wind]

it's still decent sized in EU, but EU has a lot of diehard CS players still so the numbers are bit less percentage wise

[uneven cradle]

Has to compete with cs2 that would take a large chunk of players out

[sly palm]

Ah I see

[hard fern]

competitive gaming aside, HE also made quick swap tech in doom eternal a lot more consistent as well

[lilac inlet]

i think there's also a huge market in rocket league still

[tidal frigate]

I do not like how rito games does their esports rules. It is impossible to rankup to first place as no ones without money

[lilac inlet]

i used to play that on kbm before wooting and it was really f'ing hard, you can play it on controller aswell.. but with the wooting settings you have so much more accuracy

[hard fern]

aside from CS what other game ban SOCD/HE features?

[sly palm]

Rocket league
I remember playing it before it was free

[hard fern]

(not saying SOCD can't be done on normal keyboard with software)

[tidal frigate]

Technicly dks can get you kicked

[hard fern]

I've never found the need for DKS, are they doing a buy bind or something?

[lilac inlet]

was fun but super hard on kbm, normal kbm slight left turn was rapid tapping in certain frequencies but with wooting you can just set triggers like RT LT on an xbox controller

[tidal frigate]

@hard fern trackmania technicly can ban you for custom gamepad curves

[tidal frigate]

Jumptrows

[hard fern]

i have a hard time wrapping my head around dks usage vs a good old fashion macro

the depth-dependent action seems so niche i haven't ran into a use case fit for it not to mention execution consistency

[lilac inlet]

glory to the day we get actuation point input so you'd feel dynamic switch clicks on your dks

https://tenor.com/view/technologia-tecnologia-gif-1569446854040921730

[hard fern]

that sounds like an expensive af switch

[chilly mural]

haptics

Like, really small one and you somehow can localize it to only be felt on a finger that's on the switch/keycap

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple have a prototype of those. Prop wouldn't feel nice

[lilac inlet]

haptics or literal magnetism in action

[hard fern]

a more miniaturized version of superstrike mouse's haptic switch system basically on the switch itself

would need a total redesign ofc for HE switches

[lilac inlet]

if the pcb can emit more magnetism it can create tiny extra resistance on dks clicks perhaps, would be awesome

not sure if possible though

[hard fern]

via induction but that can get messy

[lilac inlet]

with big magnets sure, just gotta downsize it somehow

haptics would be possible too, only time will tell

[hard fern]

tbh as a linear switch boi i would pass

neat tho

[lilac inlet]

kinda destroys the not knowing where you are in terms of actuation with dks

[hard fern]

essentially you are creating variable resistances in the switch leading to that tactility

in other words you are also creating a switch with variable spring weight

[lilac inlet]

true

but i'm pretty sure if it's only +2 or +5g on click, some of you guys would easily recognize the bumps/levels

[hard fern]

i would say, i felt a huge difference from L60 -> Tikkens

[lilac inlet]

the pcb always knows how deep the stem is pressed, based on that it can create a short resistance on the actuation of first, second, third dks functionality. it doesn't have to get heavier with every keypress in the idea

it's more like you get a tiny physical feedback saying function 1, 2, 3

[hard fern]

ya'll thought $280 80he's were expensive, wait til you see the new haptic he switch /s

[lilac inlet]

lmao

one nice thing is, you won't need that many probably if you only use dks on a few keys

[hard fern]

sold separately (like the knobs) kek

jokes aside can't wait to try those out

[lilac inlet]

me neither ngl

[hard fern]

you already know there will be some savage out there building a 60he v2 with 100% knobs

[lilac inlet]

day 13 of waiting for keycaps

[chilly mural]

2he, 100 knobs

[lilac inlet]

60he dj edition

[chilly mural]

I'm hoping wooting do good with the knob integration, maybe it would be nice for DAW

[hard fern]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-gif-21351223

[lilac inlet]

what if wooting were to tap into the launchpads

[hard fern]

you got the uwu, let me introduce the Wooting ecks Deee

[lilac inlet]

idk how popular they are, but i'm 100% sure some extra functionality can be achieved for launchpads

sell switches and keycaps for life

[hard fern]

really interested how they managed circular motion detection with a HE sensor

[lilac inlet]

the knob can be a circular motion but it can have a vertical motion

[hard fern]

ya oscillation or some sort

[lilac inlet]

potentiometers just turn on the spot but you could have a normal switch with a mechanism that pushes the stem down depending on twist

[hard fern]

still requires quite a bit of moving parts crammed into a small 1u switch

[lilac inlet]

you could make a switch that's specialized to hold the knob but maybe still have the functionality of a basic switch and that horizon>vertical motion converter

i'm trying to find a picture of what i mean but i can't :<

it's like a pen clicking mechanism but more focused towards an entire circle

[hard fern]

i'm seeing it, i hope the knob itself is swappable but that is reaching

for aesthetics y'know

[lilac inlet]

i found something like it

this but with a lower angle so it goes all the way down in one full rotation from 0-100

[glacial wind]

the knob we're making?

[hard fern]

the top of the knob, yes

[glacial wind]

it's already been shown, it's hot swappable to any location that fits

the top won't be swappable though if you mean purely some aesthetic top

because the whole thing is a unit

[hard fern]

yes that is what i meant

i figured as much

[lilac inlet]

can you guys explain how it works or is that confidential atm

[glacial wind]

can't really say beyond what we've shown

[lilac inlet]

because i'm curious if it works on my principle or normal potentiometer or something

gotcha

[glacial wind]

it's very complicated and requires a lot of programming

[austere creek]

weve already said the knob rotates freely as much as you want

[hard fern]

especially with the 4 1u cluster i would imagine

[chilly mural]

Somebody could make an attachment that grip the side of the knob.

[lilac inlet]

i didn't know, i have not been in the knob rabbit hole :>

[chilly mural]

needs to be smol though

[austere creek]

just search knob in the discord

theres like

so much info already

[lilac inlet]

thanks

[austere creek]

im pretty sure we also confirmed already that turning left/right has a function and pressing does.

[eager coyote]

my ufos arrived today. they feel and sound very nice

[lilac inlet]

i'm not a knob fan i'm just interested in the discussion of technical possibilities and workings hehe

[glacial wind]

i think for 80he in particular it makes sense for most people to have knob there

because most folks aren't really using those 4 keys

[hard fern]

agreed, i would like to have it on my 60he but not enough keys

[lilac inlet]

i will defo get one as a module in my normal 80he if we can, we'll have to see

[austere creek]

idk how much we shared on the 1u knob actually... the 4u knob has been the far more discussed thing in here i feel like

1u is just the forgotten child at this point lol

[glacial wind]

1u we've just said work in progress because small parts needs a lot more testing and tweaking

[austere creek]

yeah

[hard fern]

wish there's like an-inbetwen-cable add on for a 60he to add a magnetic switch/knob on it 🤣

[lilac inlet]

i think it's really nice that you at least have the option of a 4 size and a 1 size

[austere creek]

but its kinda funny cause even before we mainly got people asking about the 4u knob

or i just blurred out 1u questions could also be

[lilac inlet]

zoom64 comes with a knob in the case but i'm not entirely sure what you can do with it in terms of functionality

[glacial wind]

its very basic

[hard fern]

yeah i saw sadly i don't dig the aesthetics

[glacial wind]

i'm using one now. its fine but it's just very basic knob that will be used for volume mostly

[lilac inlet]

that's kinda interesting because the 4u knob is kinda huge, the 1u knob makes sense for a lot more people that just need one knob somewhere on the kb for volume or something

[hard fern]

you're referring to the 1u or the zoom?

[glacial wind]

zoom

i don't have 1u knob, maybe only programmers have one

[lilac inlet]

on 60he i can't even fit the 4u knob lmao

the 1u knob as esc would make much more sense

[hard fern]

it's a cool idea for after market cases tbh, i wish more people "added" extras with their case like this

[lilac inlet]

funnily enough for the 80he it does fit very well since you have the little 4u island on the side

[austere creek]

meanwhile 2he can fit 3 4u knobs

[hard fern]

get split space bar 60he and get 3 knobs instead of 1 6.25 space bar

https://tenor.com/view/skinny-homer-homer-back-fat-homer-simpson-gif-25749447

[lilac inlet]

at that point use a launchpad plate and pcb and you can make infinite knobs

[hard fern]

i imagine some people would get an uwu just with the knob as a mini macropad

[glacial wind]

I do like the copper color aesthetic, although I don’t really find this knob all that useful

[hard fern]

clean

[lilac inlet]

i'd prefer to have it on the left but the setup is nice

i ordered a custom alu plate for the 80he and i'm really curious how that's gonna work out

[hard fern]

more of a scroll through tabs instead of volume with that amount of travel/steps

[lilac inlet]

currently i have an 80he in gt-80 case but it has no foam except for one layer i left in from the old case, i wonder if it's gonna get too high pitched with alu plate

[hard fern]

no foam enjoyer kudos

[glacial wind]

i wish 80he had more clean cases honestly

[hard fern]

same

[glacial wind]

none of current ones really fit my aesthetic

[lilac inlet]

fair enough

[hard fern]

aside from the gt80 a lot of them aren't that accessible for most people as well

[lilac inlet]

i like the gt-80 but i understand it's not everyone's cup of tea

[glacial wind]

i have a gt80 that will do, but it's not quite the look i want. Prefer something more optimum or mode simple

[lilac inlet]

but hey you work for wooting, you got something extra to do in the weekends

[hard fern]

gt80 feels like it's missing a proper accent, that badge/strap hook ain't it for me

[lilac inlet]

you don't have to have it on

[glacial wind]

i only do marketing/copywriting so no case design for me unfortunately

[hard fern]

that's what i mean, missing an accent - more so if you take it off

[lilac inlet]

so basically it comes with a strap hook, you can get a tiny plate for like $3 that you can't see unless you look from low side or flip it upside down

i think the grate thing on the front is super cool though

[hard fern]

i vibe more with the updated look via the gt60

[lilac inlet]

because it has a wooden strip on the top?

it still has the strap hook and even more visible even with smol plate

[hard fern]

wooden/alu/etc depending on your choice, there's add ons

proper accent piece

no clue what they were thinking with the gt 80 badge

[lilac inlet]

i guess, i'm not a huge fan of that strip on the gt60 myself

[hard fern]

fair to each their own

[lilac inlet]

maybe with those colored alu addons it would look better, i'm not a great fan of the two wood choices anyway

[hard fern]

i like the bone80 and ego80 but those are much harder to get

[lilac inlet]

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005010378259486.html they seem to be in stock here

[hard fern]

yeah i know of that, price creeped up too much since tariffs

[lilac inlet]

the bone80 is nice in pro version

[hard fern]

can't really justify that much in an 80he, i'm more 60-75% enjoyer

[robust siren]

did someone mention gt60?

[hard fern]

😏

[lilac inlet]

fair enough, nobody likes tariffs here

[robust siren]

[hard fern]

dang they need a blue top accent piece for ya

[lilac inlet]

that's alot of soju

[robust siren]

real

but itd be weird if it wasnt the same shade of blue

[hard fern]

true

you can try to offset it a little with some gradient-blue modifiers

[robust siren]

just the right amount of soju

[robust siren]

there arent really any besides the caps and enter keys

[hard fern]

become a barista and mix a little bit of calkis in there

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

but calkis is pbt

sojus are abs

[hard fern]

modifiers is k

[glacial wind]

you need to get with the trends though

it's no longer about fancy soju

it's about mango cake and matcha

you need a mango cake and matcha set

[robust siren]

calkis is a darker blue

[glossy pagoda]

Why that would fit very nicely with aquamarine I think

[sly palm]

Bojus foreva

[lilac inlet]

so far this is the closest i could find but it's not the same i think

[robust siren]

also entirely wrong language

[hard fern]

kek

[robust siren]

soju is korean and calkis is japanese

[hard fern]

what's wrong with a little bit of interracial mixing

[glacial wind]

you just got banned from korea for mixing those 2 drinks

[hard fern]

(im talking about caps)

[lilac inlet]

he's trying to invent a new keycap named cocktail

[hard fern]

damn i was planning to pick up a venom65 on my trip

https://tenor.com/view/why-cry-why-pepe-why-why-pepe-cry-pepe-pepe-cry-gif-5847161834541812219

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-thats-nice-grandpa-gif-17440232

[cloud crane]

Lol gmk evil eye clone

[lilac inlet]

it has some light blue keys but not enough

[robust siren]

anyways you can never have enough sojus

[cloud crane]

Soju R3 trust

[hard fern]

forgive the product placement render but this got me like 😩

[lilac inlet]

funky case

[cloud crane]

Mmmmmmm need 1.1mm abs

[robust siren]

@sly palm

i think i need more sojus

[sly palm]

Do it

[lilac inlet]

but wait this is the soju key set?

[robust siren]

yeah thats base

[sly palm]

Yes the base

[lilac inlet]

you didn't get the base?

[robust siren]

i have almost everykitting

[sly palm]

He do have the base

[robust siren]

i do have the base, the blue alphas you see has the korean sublegends

ill only be missing the 40s and numpad

both are out of stock

[lilac inlet]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/keykobo-soju-abs-double-shot-keycap-set?variant=51407557951806 numpad's here

[robust siren]

40s is basically unnecessary and i dont have or plan on getting a 100% board

[cloud crane]

Tofu numpad looks... Hmm...

[robust siren]

$6 shipping from china is

[lilac inlet]

i guess you don't like the sublegends :>

[robust siren]

i want kbdfan to make numpad
gt-60/80 style numpad would be nice

[cloud crane]

Tofu numpad is by kbdfans lol

[robust siren]

yeah i know but i no want tofu

[lilac inlet]

for the numpad?

[robust siren]

for the keycaps

[lilac inlet]

ahkay, not getting the numpad i guess

[robust siren]

i like it, its neat

[cloud crane]

I like tofu design more than gt series, fight me

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[hard fern]

redux enjoyer or 3.0?

[cloud crane]

3.0 def

[robust siren]

i have this one from previous photos

[lilac inlet]

so if you have the base you should be able to fix the numbers row which i thought we were discussing right

or do you have it on two keyboards, i didn't get the context

[robust siren]

[trail bane]

No 10u spacebar = insta skip

[lilac inlet]

ah they mean the alu bar thing

lmao

[robust siren]

we have 10u at home

[lilac inlet]

i should go to sleep early tonight

[cloud crane]

https://ktechs.store/products/mx2a-brixies
Interesting

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[lilac inlet]

tbh if you want a blue strip why not just check around with cnc companies to see if they can make one and get someone to paint it for you in your color

cnc service can be pretty cheap nowadays

they don't always have big projects to keep the machines running, so they take smaller projects to make sure the machines are printing something

[hard fern]

you may or may not have a soju problem sir

and i respect it

[robust siren]

i need to give soju another shot, next time mixing it

[hard fern]

ayyye bartender

[robust siren]

i dont like alcohol
its so

[broken notch]

Mmm soju

[robust siren]

but that may mean i need to expand my palette

[hard fern]

you need to full commit and make a custom case with actual soju in the bottom case instead of foam

[robust siren]

that might fry my keyboard

[hard fern]

acrylic compartment its k

[robust siren]

[hard fern]

though i know of some waterproof HE pcbs

[robust siren]

but soju is a clear liquid

[hard fern]

add a little bit of carbonation in there for aura

[cloud crane]

I wish hali would rerun the evaneko 🤤

[robust siren]

the only way i could tell the difference between soju and water is the good grape smell from it

the peach one was potent

[hard fern]

peach theme soju caps when

[trail bane]

Would like to try soju but pity for me I can’t find any good in my country

[robust siren]

the ones at the wedding i went to were imported
i shouldve taken one home and bring it the next time i went to korean bbq

[hard fern]

obviously the solution is to host a wedding yourself and bring home the soju from there

[robust siren]

first step would be to find someone thats interested in the same things i am

[hard fern]

i pronounce you man and keycaps

you may kiss the usb c port

[robust siren]

[broken notch]

No tongue

[hard fern]

but the port is reversible

[hard fern]

right on cue

[sly palm]

What you expect.. it's hipyo

[hard fern]

just found it ironic since and you and @glacial wind called it out hours before this vid went live, not even gonna bother giving him the view

[sly palm]

It's just hipyo, he a mx fan which is why he likes tmr a lot because it gives the option to use magnetic and mx switches in the same board

[hard fern]

it's such a weird take, the same people bashed these gamer keyboards before HE hit the scene, now these "gamer" boards use MX again and it's ... good?

[tropic urchin]

When it has two knobs to satiate his Mx addled brain

He needs to put the fries in the bag

[sly palm]

Oh yea, also he will like wooting as soon as he realizes he can have a board full of knobs

I almost forgot his love for knobs

[tropic urchin]

Or should I say he needs to put the kois back in the pond

[hard fern]

not to mention the "Keyboard youtuber" not being versed enough to know a good HE switch from a bad one (like a good board from a bad board) and just throwing the whole category into a bucket

[robust siren]

ill ask how many kits they have for the bojus

[sly palm]

For what kit?

[robust siren]

oh shit theres only 1 spacebar kit

fuck

[sly palm]

do it

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[robust siren]

they dont take paypal

[sly palm]

it's only one left

[robust siren]

tbh it’s not that important

hmm

blue alpha i would like

[sly palm]

split bojus

[robust siren]

i already hab while

i dont think blue split would look good

[sly palm]

it does tho

If I would be able to take pics with good lighting

[humble surge]

bery naise

[regal patio]

He changed the title

[austere creek]

prob A/B

[sly palm]

and again?

[regal patio]

I would like his videos if he could actually highlight good and bad HE boards

[regal patio]

Two knobs

So he will like it

[hard fern]

he does but it's very surface level, he doesn't get much into it other than build/sound

software be damned

performance be damned

[regal patio]

True

[cloud crane]

Even more surface level than alexotos

[hard fern]

i don't mind alexotos

[cloud crane]

Ok bad example I like alexotos

[regal patio]

Alexotos uses HE switches that are send to him by milktooh

[hard fern]

guy just put more time digging into the Hyzen board more than any reviewer i've seen yesterday

[cloud crane]

He did buy the xvx ec/he switches himself tho

[regal patio]

Great for him

I thought I clicked on a milktooh video

[hard fern]

to be fair have you ever seen milktooth and alexotos together in the same room

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-thinking-face-thinking-emoji-thinking-faces-thinking-emojis-gif-15832529529179588009

[ionic breach]

it pretty much is lol

its all sent to him by milktooth so its only the ones that milktooth has

and its sponsered

[compact ibex]

Wsp

[little glen]

Sno should send him some switches to try

[iron trellis]

What is best he switches for wooting ?

Help me
To modding my 60he v2

[harsh dove]

Best doesn’t exist

But you can refer to #🪛│modding_faq

[pearl zinc]

Hey yall, i am really new to keyboards, and i recently got a wooting uwu, which id want to swap switches from. The switches that come with it also didnt really fit what i wanted, so i was looking online for other switches, but if i use other switches they probably dont have the magnet a wooting has right? would that mean the hall effect wouldnt work anymore?

[sacred elm]

You need compatible HE switches #🪛│modding_faq message

[pearl zinc]

thanks

[deft sapphire]

@oak jewel can you write to my on dm because i have question for you

[ornate quest]

How about not bothering wooting employees like it's in the rules and using official channels on the website

[glossy pagoda]

Please do not ping staff unless you have a moderation emergency

[deft sapphire]

ye but im waiting for his answer on my email 1 month

[glossy pagoda]

Okay, respond back to the email

Pinging them on Discord, during the weekend no less, is not the way

[deft sapphire]

Can you tell him to write me back?

[glossy pagoda]

No, I expect you're eminently capable of writing a follow up email

[deft sapphire]

ok

[trail bane]

Gn

[cerulean wind]

Just finished switching out geon raw with the keytok nova and doing the modding kit (POM + FOAM) , now my board sounds good - but also very quiet

same mic setup

[wispy wharf]

The foam is actually really a good upgrade

[robust siren]

man going from my 80he back to the bakka after a while is so

[icy helm]

Yo I forgot to ask but I saw a recent message where they said switches that has less travel (particularly 3.4<) are more prone to stem wobble compared to 4.0mm full travel? can someone elaborate why is this?

[fluid ravine]

[icy helm]

I mean by real life analogy lets say there are two towers, one is shorter and one is taller, isnt the shorter one more stable? (idfk what im saying 😭 🙏 )

[fluid ravine]

Think of it as a seesaw

When the space bar is pressed down, it resembles a seesaw.

[robust siren]

the sound is just so much more crisp and poppy on the bakka

i need a alu plate with uni cutouts

[fluid ravine]

Since when the stem is bottomed out and it has a lesser travel, the stem sits higher compared to when the stem is sitting lower of a 4mm switch.

[icy helm]

so to compensate the stem must be replaced to somethig that is lower than the 3.4mm switch?

[fluid ravine]

Uh no, you can use spacers and place them on the stabilizer stem

[robust siren]

god awful on the spacebar btw

[icy helm]

ohh spacers

ic

[fluid ravine]

Eh it depends tbh

But yea I can agree sometimes

[robust siren]

remember when i was trying to fix my spacebar

[fluid ravine]

Yea

[robust siren]

• clicky spacebar enters the chat

[candid bramble]

my space bar is acting weird as well

like sometime it ticks and sometime it dont

[robust siren]

freaky ass keyboard

[cloud crane]

fourwrap stabs will save it trust

[robust siren]

what stab do you have?

[candid bramble]

i am using knight on this board

[cloud crane]

Btw prussian alert gb soon

[candid bramble]

!!!!!!

MY WALLET IS READY

I AM GETTING 3 SET

[cloud crane]

[candid bramble]

[robust siren]

(idk what it is)

[candid bramble]

but yea i dont know this keyboard is a bit weird

cuz i was on tx ap before knight

and switching it to knight didnt fix the issue

[cloud crane]

May 15th, set your calendar

[candid bramble]

its not the keycap problem cuz other space bar i had have the same issue

tried cling wrap and it didnt work

but when the stab is on other board of mine its fine?

[robust siren]

i curse thee with shite spacebar

[candid bramble]

i am bringing a set back to hong kong

and see how it is

i am also getting new switches for my lucky 65v2

trying some wingtree one g

[robust siren]

get me some minigt gt3 cars

[candid bramble]

my friend got some

[candid bramble]

i might get one or two for my room

[robust siren]

i just got this rx7

[cloud crane]

I have them, they're quite nice

[candid bramble]

thanks aus

[robust siren]

my premium model car collection is a whole lotta jdms

and not a lot of modern cars

[candid bramble]

oh shit lbw silvia

imma see if they have any gt cars

[robust siren]

yesh

[robust siren]

i think the s15 is the newest car i have

manufacture year that is

the newest model car i have is the 180sx

[candid bramble]

wait what i need this

but why is the rim purple

[robust siren]

they need to make the marin kitagawa mercedes gt3

[candid bramble]

YES

[robust siren]

you also then need to put that next to the migu gt3

[candid bramble]

wait does the merc gt3 still drive like a boat?

[robust siren]

kinda? but max verstappen says otherwise