#🔧│keyboard_modding
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fr4 aint even that bad but shi 
tune my spacebar just right as well
wire balanced the knight wire (left side was sounding flat) and mixed krytox and DG for the wire, works well for me
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Recently installed a set of TX AP plate mounted stabilisers but now my spacebar is getting stuck, does anyone know a quick fix?
I’m using cerakeys
what board?
I’m using the wooting 60he with the owlab 60
pc plate?
typically the only reason why your stabs are getting stuck is because tx ap plate mount housing is 6.5mm thick and everything from stock plates and pc plate from wooting for the 60he's support 6.25mm. So technically saying that the stab cut out on the plate is pressing inward on the stab housing causing your stem to get stuck midpress.
Cerakey can be a reason too with how heavy it is
Mmm alright that makes sense, anything I can do to fix it?
but if you have a spring that can support the weight then it should work fine
otherwise its a stab housig and plate tolerance problem
I'd just get a new plate
50g is pretty light
Really?
How much you reckon
iirc the handful of our cerakey users here use 70g and up
no problem
spacebar is really heavy af, once it goes down with a "light" spring then it will either rebound slowly or can't rebound at all to its inital position due to the weight
not enough elastic force really 
Yea it works okish if I install the spacebar slightly on top, but if I press it all the way down it just gets stuck
Like it won’t budge
wait do you have any normal keycaps?
Unfortunately not with me right now
I’m overseas
I bought some owlab ti switches alongside jade pros and WS flux’s so I’ll see if any of those work
But I’ll get a stronger spring
oh ok
i was gonna suggest you to try a normal keycap on the modifiers to check if your stabs are getting stuck because of the plate tolerance or its just because of the cerakey's weight
to fully confirm the issue
Yea that was my first thought initially asw
Maybe the best bet is to wait till I get back to fully confirm it
alrighty then
But it’ll be around another 2 weeks or so
also note that you can't spring swap WS fluxes springs with your normal HE springs
WS Flux's have a different diameter for their springs
Mhm
keep in mind
I’m using geon raws right now
gotcha
Hand lubed
nice
Mind if I add you in case I got any other questions?
yea sure no problem
you should be able to send me messages just fine since we're in mutual servers
Appreciate it
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no actually
my pcb is 125usd
Hmm ok
@sacred elm @glacial wind
oh i thought you guys saw this already, yeah they showed the cable on a few spots now
the problem is still mostly that their buying process is absurdly complicated
Yeah can I not buy a included PCB?
its gonna be constant production or
you can but it requires going to the separate parts section and piecing together every piece you need one by one
Oh thats just silly
which is why i think they're losing a lot of sales from wooting customers lol
no one wants to do that. You need a manual and to make your own spec list just to figure out what to buy one by one
are you saying wooting customers are dumb
also seems like custom configuration only works on kbdfans site
not other retailers
i think if I gave 100 people the link to the case only maybe 5 would figure out how to even order it separately
even I had to dig around to find the separate accessory section then piece together the 3 pages to make one full build lol
they don't even make it easy to find where that specific page of the accessories is
yeah
Was second guessing myself there for a sec lol
haha nuu
Dr Dave pinged me just now
it's roughly $190-200 to build the basic case minus pcb
Eek
quite a pricy case
Hmmm tofu 3.0 or ego60
Protagonist60 HE 🙏
Wait I just realized it'd make my damn coiled cable off center with the tofu 3.0
i also dislike that it's 9 degrees
which is firmly into high angle enthusiast case stuff which average people don't often like that much angle
Eek, I don't know if I'd ever go higher than 7😭
i do think the full copper bottom is very pretty though, but it's also like $400 if you buy all the copper parts
damn das a lot of angle
At first I thought I disliked high angle
Then I realized I float my fingers when typing

also plate options are only for ansi regular spacebar, so if you have split space just be aware you'll need to make your own custom plate later
on a whole a bit of a disappointing launch from kdbfans. Just the lack of plate compatible options and no easy way for wooting customers to buy i think pushes a lot of potential buyers over to zoom64 instead
which is launching less than aweek after this one ends
does it do oring
Wish they'd do bumpons on zoom64 instead of those stupid feet
i'm wondering how popular it'll be if at all, because i really don't want to waste budget on this case just to check if it fits our friction fit lol
you learned the ways of the varedis huh
making me wanna spend cash i wasnt prepared to spend
Can't spend cash when you don't have any
dont project your financial situation onto me
@chilly mural Hows the audiophiles window shopping going?
you more of an iem or headphones person ?
It's fine, just getting things that really interests mr
But won't be for a while now after getting a new laptop
thats how it should be
how you been liking it?
Really nice. The battery life is long and so far it feels better than my other first time with windows laptop
hell yeah
glad youre enjoying your laptop
alright i found cheapest option, i order only the tofu 3.0 top and bottom case and the he cable just to see if friction fit works lol
cnced bottom?
not sure if they said if it's cnc or not
oh no, i'm buying the cheapest option for both because it's never being used and it'll sit on my shelf doing nothing
i just have to check compatibility for friction fit
no split plates, 9 degree angle means it's never going to be something i'd ever personally use
I just got into audiophile too and got my first Iem the timeless 2
if it was actually nice i'd spend my own money and buy full copper options for it though, but not for a 9 degree angle
Got sucked into the tech rabbit hole so now I’m in keyboards
I wanna try gaming on a 11 degree glare 
6 degree rix degree
im on the 2.8 angle rn lol
negative typing angle
cos its just easier for travel since it doesnt fallout
Y'alls friction fit falls out?
I had to really squeeze mine into my holy60 clone lol
rip
no the 80he angled feet
Ah
the flat feet slots in nicely to my bag and does not catch on stuff and get pushed out
holy inglesh
Eenglesh hardge
rip, im lookin rn and i wonder if the stainless steel weights would mess with he at all
subtotal 207 before taxes and shipping, not the best, but honestly not the worst compared to some other cases
the weights just go into the weight slot and don't interfere with anything
i forgot it was my leather mat that sits on my desk that messes with he lol
secretlab lol
not the actual desk itself
255 with taxes/shipping rippp
yeah i think i'm going to skip ordering one and will just pick up an extras later in year to check compatibility if enough people request
the way it's set up now i can't see tofu 3.0 being popular with wooting users at all
oh yeah same here
In this video we'll take a look at Meletrix's upcoming Zoom64 case kit and a new hall effect keyboard module from Wuque Studio, the Flux60HE (also known as Babao60). Both are pretty insane on their own, but together, they are superb.
Tip: For the Flux60HE you'll need keycaps that have a 2u shift key.
💰 Lowest prices:
Zoom64 Case Kit: starti...
no auto calibration a bit disappointing
It sounds... Laughably bad...
Yea...
Some flux users may like this but the thing that I dont like about them i's the "open" sounded structure that makes it iffy for me.
It just doesn't work well with denser plates imo
Like in my own head the way I think of the fluxes structure is if I'm typing on a plastic box in a plastic box ig. Complete sound but still open yet "hollow" sounding. Whereas some "isolated" switch or normal built ones with good molds like kois, ti he, raptor, crystal, ags, etc have it's own fuller sound which is just easier and nicer to control. Just my opinion and take on what I think abt this flux structure. It's good for stability and shit, smooth as well, but I really dont f with how it sounds most of the time.
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It’s less common nowadays because lubing has gotten a lot better
But some switches still can benefit
If a keyboard could sound sad, that's the fluxes
ordered a more interesting case that i think we'll get more requests for compatibility/sound testing
cerakey ceramic case on the way
dragon60 sound test: unionwell ice, deep clack, pink lotus, unionwell snow
is that that one that's been popular in china lately?
i wonder if it'll catch on in western countries. I only saw one or two aliexpress listings so far
prolly not unless they start glazing it on tiktok
i'm really curious to see what this cerakeys case sounds like
i guess i'll find out soon lol
I imagine that's how your place looks Jed with all your Wooting gear
it's a real problem. I have to clear out more sections and order more boxes now because i ran out of switch storage, so all the new switches have been piling up in random spots
YEAHHH I genuinely want to try that case or cerakey
Tf when did cerakey release grey matte caps, may order that
they're very new
i agree i think they're the nicest color actually lol
white is nice but only matches certain colors, but grey matches a lot of things
That's my current set, so actually the grey might totally fit in
I was debating on just doing all grey or grey A set with the black B set
peep their stock of 60v2 modules
just a handful
the chinese market is pretty nuts with the scale of everything they do there
Sometimes you just randomly encounter an order for 500+ modules
Enough to feed a family
China moves different
i've heard of shops that sell thousands of custom wootings a month there
and that's just one random shop lol
Just your average corner shop bodega
The ceramic case is not the coolest thing I ordered this week though
Nothing can top this goggle cover

Would be funny if it’s not
Y’all could blame me cuz this happened after i ordered Gehrin
The CTRL lore...
oh shit - dunno if the Gehrin is worth the risk. It potentially sucks for the Arc60 too, that is one of the best feeling keyboards hands down; plateless and gasket doesn't get much better imo 
no more intro boards is sad
First time I went to bed early early so put my name in the ring too 🤣
Anyone could reccomend me some white keycaps? im looking for either aesthetic simple desing or blanks
pbs blanks
or pbtfans xray
Any advantages on upgrading the stock stabs and plate in my 60HE+ now that I have it disassembled? I'm going for a silent build with some Silent Peach v3 switches so let me know if upgrading any parts would make it quieter/muted
steel probably
stock plate is steel iirc
u could get a plastic one
That one then for sure
like pp/pom or pc
Would that reduce the sound of the switches?
prob yea
Can I just buy any PC plate that fits 60% or is there any compatibility list I need to follow
It's an ISO board
If your stabs rattle, you should tune them
Hello someone know where I can find xvx keycaps in Azerty?
If you currently have steel plate, sure. You can use PC plate with the friction fit pad.
@fallen pecan still no latenpow golds on TB right?
Yo that Tenz 80HE is sweet
Will there ever ever ever be crazy good sounding switches? very close to mechanical? Like good deep thocks or creamy ones?
i know they have been getting closer but still very far from mechanical
Probably not
There are lots of good sounding switches but it probably wont sound like mechanical due to the inherent design difference
It’ll take time to cross the threshold since HE is still very new comparatively to MX (40 years vs 7 iirc)
It’s changed quite a bit the last 3 years
Because it's not possible. This difference comes from the principle of how they work.
Since theres no physical contact, it's not possible to reproduce a close to mechanical sound for these.
You could throw copper contacts in there that do nothing 
nope
Allright, thanks
hey guys is there a good PC plate for wooting module v2
v2 compatible PC plate isn't available, but you can commission one here https://hypekeyboards.ca
v2 plate files are on github
i commissioned this man for a 2he plate
(i am waiting.)
group buy starts on the 3rd Feb no?
wait faster
ta eu une rep depuis ?
English only please
HE will never be sounding like conventional MX unless future generations change the structure to a similar one just with magnets, but I don't think anyone is going to make such changes for the sake of a nicer sound
in comparison to other switches out right now? not really
they're more wobbly than jade pros
they're like if ttc released a jade switch but 2 years later than the original jades came out
i feel like the tikkens are really wobbly, sometimes im just resting my fingers on the keycaps while playing and they feel like they are moving, never happend with the geon raws
i think imma try the raptors or the owlab ti
Lateron with triple rails
why not go for something better rated on top wobble then
i wouldn't necessarily go owlab ti he if top wobble is a big concern for you
they're a little better but not hugely better on top wobble
how long will the 2he PCB last...
and when it eventually breaks what repair options will i have...
like
would you say the raptors are good? i listend to some of the raptor v2 sounds on youtube but they sound a bit scratchy idk
2he v2 might come out and 2he v1 might be discontinued
they're okay, i think sound is a bit flat for me
so im like
i prefer some other options sound wise personally vs raptor v2
"damn. i have 0 options for repair."
Eventually, yeah, but not anytime soon
and i doubt that the 2he v2 pcb will be compatible with the v1 pcb
there are no moving parts, so unless you break it physically I don't know what can "break" in there lol
electronics can degrade over time
ok thanks for the help broski
like im sure it'll last like 5+ years but i want this to be something that i use for like
a really damn long time
yeah but I mean 5-10 years is probably very realistic, which doesnt seem bad at all
You steal Tony’s 
60he v2 SE when
first 60v2 pro max and air
air should be low profile model 👀
Knobs when
GMK Selene when
with 104 keys + 96 macro keys
Happiness when
What happened?
stop hate my second best switch
i still have no idea why some people put it highly lol
it's literally just ttc making a jade pro ish switch except it's way later than all the 500 jade pro variants
Has king in the name so it must be good 🤓
what did you think of the Clip Clops afterall sno? i don't recall reading since you got them.
I have mine aswell, just literally had no time yet next to work, working all the way to Saturday 🥴
they are on the list
they're great. I hand lubed mine because they'll be my mains for awhile
both sound and feel? in some detail ?
Yeah sound is quite unique. Sound test is on database already, but they’re basically a nice clacky tone while not being as loud as owlab ti he
Feel wise they’re same as every other good round stem switch, so it’s good there
Allright, appreciate the input.
For the sound i will judge in person no offence, just wanted to hear the general feedback ty.
They are very tempting to me
are there good cases for the tenz board?
I'll have some more time on Saturday to try, don't expect a new main switch out of it, but it was fancy enough to order and try.
Any case that fits the 80he, so gt-80 would be great
Yes but it has no split spacebar
And doesnt have european layout option
Base 80he does have the layout options tho
I take it there's no plans of releasing the tenz switches separately?
They‘re just tikkens with lower weight
You can DIY it
Or just use tikkens cause higher weight is better anyway

But it's red😭
There are other red switches
Sort of I believe the spring in the tenZ switches has different force curve also
I still want to get the heavy tikkens, just not sure who would part with some of them
just get heavy springs
Is a POM plate good for deep sound?
generally yes, although be aware pom can be very flexy and sometimes cause accidental actuations on 0.1 type settings
man people love buying from him over the original sellers lol
And I am trying to achieve a deep sound board I think
i'm so curious about how much he makes off people who don't want to use aliexpress
probably a lot
the foam parts aren't useful for 60he v2, but the plate you'll find more useful
I couldn't fathom doing so, it's just way too far away, i can't imagine a scenario where it makes sense logistically.
But one fact remains, since i'm on ISO, i only know his site that sells plates for it.
I guess i need to learn the original sources.
it's just aliexpress/taobao vendors
he buys from them then resells the kit at markup
yeah i need to get familiar with the TaoBao sellers that sell it, get the links and all
What configuration of foam and tape should I use for deep sound
from there it's smooth ride
just the stock config is fine already, just swap the plate
Ok
60he v2 comes with all the stuff pre-added
you really don't need to do anything foam wise really
I think i'll interrogate someone about it in a few months when i'm ordering the Ego80, so it can be packed in the same shipment.
I wonder how much he makes from people in countries that aliexpress sellers dont ship to
Tbh I don't trust Chinese sites
I feel like they cut some corners to get the cheap prices
Its all the same stuff
It quite simply gets made there and you have access to the Chinese price, theres not really any more depth to it.
it's often the same seller you're buying from too
like kdbfans has their own shop on aliexpress/taobao
so if you want to buy a tofu60 it's literally same people sending it to you, just the website changed between kdbfans vs aliexpress lol
good reminder, i will need KBDfans TB links
I got the keytok nova`s for the build is that a good choice?
btw they have another very similar marketplace called JD or JingDong, but its even more secure, tried to register but its just impossible.
On the other hand at times it can be even more lucrative than TB.
@glacial wind you got any fr4 plates i can crunch?
Looking for a good deal
The snow has been hitting the east coast hard and so hungry i have become
I didn't know you were here freezing your toes off as well. Explains the deer.
And, in some ways, maybe the crunch obsession
Hey!
Anybody know where I can buy high-quality keycaps similar to the TENZ ones that ship within the EU? 😄
Also — does anyone know where to buy foam for a Tofu60 (first version) within the EU?
Thanks! 🙌
Do they really?
anyone have some keycap recommendations?
I'll trade you some tikkens for some ufo's
you have the founder ones?
Ye
Damn okay, will talk on Saturday then, my time is sadly limited until then
Rip bet
Im debating if I keep them to try with cerakey because that stupid spacebar is so heavy
thats exactly what i need it for
although i did buy some Blues
which should be exactly capable
but i also don't mind to trade so why not
They just released that matte grey which makes me super tempted to pick up cerakey haha
Oh yeah totally should be, the difference in sound would bug me though haha
Ikr lmaooo
we will change that gap, if it goes the wrong way oh well haha
avoid the mattes
their stems have quality issues right now
they tend to crack
V3 seems to have fixed the quality issues, I know v2 was really bad
the polycarbonate stems are less durable than the v2 stems
I'm just gonna try them, tired of all the noise
lots of people are
complaining that the stems crack
id honestly recommend getting the v2s over v3s rn or wait until the quality issues are fixed
I talked to some Crazed owners, all were fine. So just gonna ignore the naysaying.
Same here lol
There shouldn't be a stem difference between the two sets, only difference is the glaze on the caps
crazed is v2
lmao
v3s are matte, v2s are glossy
I think hippo made a video on the v3's I need to check
See what i mean? you act like i should be aware what you are lmaoing about.
Watch me buy it and no QC issues. As i said, tired of the clownery.
...i use cerakeys
You have the v2?
I applaud you
yes
v2s are nice
you can notice some quality issues with keycap alignments and certain keys can fall off if you press them in an intentional way though (in which case you just shoot cerakeys an email with the issue) but they are very nice
If you read this chat more often, you would see that people naysay just about everything, pretty sure they didn't make that distinction for v2 or v3 either, just overall the material.
It's not you at fault, just this overall mentality.
Pressing skip.
You aren't listening, i'm talking about the people talking about it.
Wait you can still use other Pads while using the friction pad ? Because at the top it says friciton fit pad and then the bottom siliconee sandwich pad, i thought you can only use the friction pad standalone 
friction fit is a silicone pad
but yeah id avoid matte/v3s until they fix the bad cracking issues
if you do want ceramic keycaps and you're not specifically looking for the matte texture, get the glossys/v2s but be aware that your keys can be slightly misaligned/can fall out if you press them in a certain way (which you can contact cerakeys support about)
I haven't found any posts talking about the v3's cracking issues, can you point me that direction?
cerakeys discord
Ohh oops
Okay yeah makes sense
Thanks😭
Hey!
Anybody know where I can buy high-quality keycaps similar to the TENZ ones that ship within the EU? 😄
Also — does anyone know where to buy foam for a Tofu60 (first version) within the EU?
Thanks! 🙌
Specs Material: PBT material Profile: Cherry profile Production Method: Tripleshot Manufacturer: PBTfans Packaging: ABS keycaps tray with designed tray cover Reminder: Only keycaps included, no keyboard Compatibility: Cherry MX switches and MX-style clones LED Indicator Keycap specs Material: PBT material Profile: Cher
Pretty sure these are the exact same keycaps
I have been looking at those, but they are not in stock, and I think the wait is long. Do you know any else?
or recommend any websites I can look at, I looked at kbdfans and gmk.
we have pbtfans crosshair at home dear 
not sold separetly
So peak though
im recreating the meme where you ask your mom for mcdonalds and she says you have food at home
You got some more of them pixels
I found some similar on aliexpress, but I can’t speak to the quality of them
I just found this on AliExpress: | GMK WOB Red Cyrillic PBT 129 Keys DYE Sublimation Cherry Profile Keycaps Japanese Personality Keycaps For Mechanical Keyboard
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMr91Q1
okay, I want the same quality as the original wooting keycaps. Only reason I want to chance the keycaps is that the are worn out and the grip is bad. Do you have any websites I can look at for high quality keycaps? Looked at kbdfans, gmk keycaps and maxgaming.
Original wooting keycaps aren’t great quality imo, but I can’t really help you find exactly what you’re looking for. What i sent from aliexpress is as good as i can do
Alright, thanks a lot!
@humble surge appears there is a few qc issues
What keycaps are these?
Cerakey v3's
Aw maaan
I heard these were like the only good ceramic keycaps
Keychron’s ceramic keyboard sucks too
Maybe its just not meant to be
Keychrons "ceramic" keyboard is possibly the biggest marketing scam they've ever had lol
What, is it not ceramic?
has anyone found a wooden case for the 80he?
I mean... that's not a scam then, just a cheap product
v2s exist
they dont have the problems with stems but they still do have some quality control issues
not as critical as the pc stems cracking but still there
Marketing scam in the sense that what they did was piss poor quality to the point where it no longer did what it advertised. All the keycaps were a ceramic coating over a normal plastic cap, I'd like to say the ceramic case was the same, but I'd need to check
i thought it was ceramic, just produced in a really cheap way
They were not ceramic coating over a normal plastic cap, I just watched Hipyo's video where he chipped apart the keycap and they're ceramic all the way through 😵💫
The stems are plastic
And the case is ceramic
i mean the stems being plastic is like
not bad
cerakeys v1 stems were made out of ceramic and they had big tolerance issues
If ya don't like it don't buy it but calling something a scam when it just ain't is wild
Yeah didn't they switch to plastic stems after that debacle?
yeah
do you have a link please?
out of all the cerakeys im pretty sure that v2s are the least defective
with its defects not being that critical
Were they? I must've been thinking of something different, I just hate keychron lmao
i think it was one of the other ceramic keycap knockoffs
I wish they still had the v2 cerakeys in matte lol
Must've got my videos mixed up yeah
🤷 keychron seems alright to me for being pretty budget minded
My biggest complaint about their HE boards is they use switches w/ a diff polarity from most others so they're borderline proprietary at this point
Videos you can smell
Yeah, like the q0 numpad would've been perfect if it allowed other switches
Lmaooo that's awesome
Interesting, but now you really have blowtorches instead of fingers.
oh so when my keyboard catches fire at least (the top of) my keycaps will be fine
when I had a razer keyboard i would rage now wooting has calmed my nerves!
Gotta break something less expensive lol
choosing your battles
How do you guys feel about pet film on pcb and switches
And space bar foam
You guys think the pc switch plate will be nice with the optimum case? Heard the pc switch plate is great for aluminium cases
Not recommended for HE switches
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doesnt the 60he v2 do that
or is it very specifically designed just for the 60he v2
PET film on PCB is fine, filming switches is the no no
bc then you're actively nerfing your keyboard
I read it, but we don't have any more information.
oh nvm this is easy theres a machine that does it near me
1 guy is moving on from Ctrl(middle men for manufacturers and vendors), Manu will still work with Bowl and others. And that's it but the keyboard space likes drama lul. At least that's the vibe from Bowl's stream 🤷♂️
Manu hardly helps himself from how he responds to criticism
But yes the keyboard community does love some drama
wooting drama when
hey i have possible stupid questions 1. does the 60HE V2 modular come with a wooting strap 2. will i need to get the lub set and switch tools with it as well or no 3. where can i buy good quality keycaps
the strap comes with the case
switch tool and lube is optional
get keycaps from https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
Awesome really appreciate you answering
Gn
do you guys think i can make this port more elegant
this back looks a little cringe
Could make it boxier on the back so the screw holes arent as extended
What board is it designed for?
2he
mmm
Try the F1 strat
Yo that cannon keys bullet train looks sick. Just a shame there’s no HE PCB.
It’s pretty tempting as an iPad keyboard… trying to convince myself i really don’t need it
I dig it, just make sure you're giving yourself enough clearance around for bulkier cable terminators, as well as some space around the port itself for alignment error.
Fishy
i think maybe make it more boxier so there isnt such a large cutout that goes to the bottom of the case, and in terms of design maybe a nice horizontal elongated daimond shaped design makes it unique and the corners slighty rounded i feel would look good. idk test that out
Sound acoustic modifiers 
To try or not to try in benom
All of it or none of it
Prob diff variation
I have 3 types of pcb films on hand rn
Silicone pad and epdm/poron plate foam as well
Gonna try PET film first
let me know how you think
Yh np
I know what each of these do and how they work but im just gonna like record them just the sole purpose to see if yall can hear the difference
So far i have the PET film cut for the alphas (using 60he v2 pet film but puting it in my 7u pcb) and so far not a noticeable difference on the avg use but i know the mids are slightly raised and the highs a tiny bit lower but not that noticeable at all.
i got one of these for my bakka 
should up the volume for this to hear that slight difference
this one def sounds darker
with bakka
first sounds a lot brighter
if youre moddifying can you try with poron foam vs without
i have a PE film
if thats too annoying its fine too
i can do that
like pe foam?
ye
isnt that damaging keyboard performance or just for sound test
for the sound test
and i think the one i have is thin enough so its fine anyways
like 0.25mm
id appreciate all the sound tests lol
then we have the switches to compress on it when sitting
Ill do pe foam first
Since I already have it pre cut
@wicked vault
silicone pad timeee
are you doing pe and pet film?

should i try pe film since i have one
but that requires me taking off stabs 
Cut it
I always cut the area around the stabs
i need to remove my pet film
(°o°:)ᴼʰ
Silicone pad sounding muted and snappy as expected
im gonna cut basically entire bottom row out
wow cant really hear the difference this time lol
Really?
It's a whole pitch shorter on the bottom out
ye between this and the pet film

Most of the high frequencies on the pe foam is reduced by a lot compared to the pet
And that's mostly the top out frequency im pretty sure
i did listen for 5 seconds lol
let me listen whole thing
ok playing them together i can hear it now
ill prob upload them all at the same time when im finish with all of them
silicone pad... lower mids, more emphasis on the highs on my board since its a really loud and bright board
if it was a lower pitched board then the silicone wouldve emphasize the lower ends a bit more when the mids is lessen
ok its not as extreme
@humble surge these are in stock, pink ufos sold out
Similar to PET film that's for sure
Silicone pad is just straight up more muted whereas the pet film alone sounds more "open" since nothing is filling the space between the plate and pcb
thanks
ok i had a question when just
Ill send once I do the poron pad
talking about plates when i asked tom to remove a hole from my plate that i didnt need (i dont need to ground a fr4 plate)
assuming you could get a plate made out of any material known to mankind, regardless of budget or how difficult it is to work with the material to actually form a plate
what plate would thock and what plate would clack the most
are they different from the purple ones?
it looks better
same specs
ahh just different color i see i didnt really see the clear ones for sale
My personal description on how each of these sound modifier works (Gonna keep it short)
Poron pad- Reduces higher frequencies, More emphasis on the lows and mids
Silicone pad- Reduces mid frequencies, emphasis on either lows or highs depending on the board configuration on which side it leans onto more
PE Foam Film- Lowers high frequencies like Poron but since it doesn't fill in the space between the plate and pcb it's more of a sheet filter rather than a plate foam.
PET Film- Slightly higher mid and less highs
Base Configuration (Foamless build):
Vella60 PE (case)
Venom60HE 7U PCB
GMK Black Snails
Alu Plate
Duhrawkken switches (Duhuk top housing, Geon Raw Stem, 65g 22mm springs, Tikken Bottom Housing)
YIKB Stabs and Knights V2
50a Oring
@wicked vault
@tropic urchin tried some plate foam and films configurations, no case foam
sheesh im done for the night
all that in one hour, new record
Anyone have numpad to match wooting? Need suggestions
2nd and 4th sounds the least harsh. Alu foamless sounds the most harsh. Rest are in between
good take
Im wearing iem that accentuate the harshness, so it might sound even less irl.
personally, i'm all for the foamless build, i love bright and full sounding boards
which ones u wearing
Meze alba.
very nice
High treble, nice detail, but can sound too much if you aren't a treble head like me.
the custom switches are crazy
that makes sense on why foamless sounds harsh
me with my astrals 
If only you can EQ your ears... at least you can snuck fuck ton of foam
treble seems more forward on the meze compared to astrals
interesting
i lvoe treble :>
lmao 
break in dem ears
hehe indeed it is
It's a nice set. Like $100 cheaper than astral ($160).
still far way to go
that's pretty good dayum
end game- top pros

one day 
have you heard my mobius one 
show
i mightve
phone mic? 
yeah
these were the kois(?)
i can do pc recording tomorrow if you want
I don’t think I can go treble chasin in iems now😭
yesh please
i think the phone mic is too far to capture like specific details of how the board sound

mobius is the flux built looking ah right?
sounds like one
damn my memory fried chat
doubleshot pbt keycaps
mobius switches
fr4 universal plate
foam sandwich pad
pet film
yikb stabs
tape mod
yeah
mobius recolored original flux
same thing with kois?
mhm
ohhh
wait no
any improvements or neh
slight bit maybe
gore did you pick up the rgb kois as well?
ledpcb has its own foam between that and the pcb
no i didnt
i want koisss 
ah thought you did, it has an interesting pa12 pom pa12 struct
huh
dew it, its ONLY $22 
through a fricking AGENCY
im good 
idk how to deal with things like that
if it were to be sold on ali i would buy insta
:/
idek if its good
give them your address there totally wouldnt be a pipebomb in the package
im just oing based off sound here 😭
usps can't make up their mind
between choosing when to deliver my plate lol
hopefully tmr
you can also get rakka for a hell of a lot cheaper off tb than people reselling it here

i go home early tmr as well, so i hope it gets home by the time i do
help a yunc out 
should i get soju spacebar kit

consoom
for the blue 3u spacebars
kkb motel
or do i do 7u blue spacebar and fuck split
sadly
shiii
spacebar kit come with 7u bars as well?
it came with base iirc
if it does then hell why not 
yeah it does
i can finally do white number row with white backspace
and blue out everything else

it looked so cooked before
if it was blue everything except numbers
bro we might be twins i got like the exact key caps you have and almost all your mods lol
which kiwi ears are you using? (sorry its a compltely out of topic question)
True
Sounds great!
Might need to be more specific. White theme is a lot of keycaps
Any designs, color combinations with white etc that you like for example
Ohh, do send tb link when you can please
Hmm right, was mainly looking to cop a few sets for my silver gravastar v60 pro and hm61z build
I’ve also got the tenz 80he which I’m planning on making a white build out of using the white zinc case - but I’ve already sorta settled for the Yuki Aim Oni keycap set
I’d like to have a stellar/spacey sorta theme for my gravastar and a Japanese/Anime style type with kanji characters for my custom build. I’d like to keep it mostly white themed but having a two toned grey and white combo is fine asw
I think PBT caps are fine or double shot? I’m honestly open to any suggestions; just needs to feel high quality and look nice. I’m not a big of a fully translucent/transparant keycap set but having some keys transparant is fine.
Planning on using stock UFO switches and Jade Pros/WS Flux’s
Regular cherry profiling and ANSI layout ofc
Lmk if im missing anything
Kiwi Ears Astral
same materials, prolly not
Oh
they're recolors for partnerships etc basically
PINK UFO'S???? WHERE
i'm still confused that some people like taishan gt pink though
because they're like half silent with bizarre chattery unclear sound
feels like unless your goal was as quiet as possible without going to full silent style switch then it'd be not matching any sound preference
Why jade pro's?
They aren't that good tbh
There are better options out there
I think Gateron will soon run out of names for their switches
If they keep putting out Jade Pro, Ultra, Max, Air
Let's move to a different mineral
its giving iphone 
jade ultra pro air mx
I mean I heard it was a pretty universally decent switch
One of my friends asked me to try em out
There's still a way, mixing 2 of em together. Pro ultra, ultra max, max pro, and air pro. Then combine 3 of em if that's done too
Fr
w marketing
every release, one update
What are the best HE switches for thock?
Also btw what better options are there?
Check the list of wooting
They have good options
Also there is wooting sound tests
Got a link?
I have tried jade pro's in my 80he build
What are your thoughts on em?
The jade pro's have a slight magnetic chatter to them
If you tried older magnetic switches you would know
its the top housing 
the chatter comes from the top housing 
They have crunch
Is it very noticeable?
RBO Nylon HE switch when 🤔
Fluxes back in the wooting board @tropic urchin 
Put back the pet film and changed the alphas to silicone
and i still dont like this config one bit 
Are TTC Elf Kings any good or Should I just Stick with Just Getting Owl Lab Ti He and Gravastar UFO's
They aren't that good lol
im very picky 
elf king are like jade pro level at best, if not slightly worse
Aka not that good
Why are people looking to buy the switch that is the most popular on YT
Like the Jade's family
we should all buy novas
That's what I did lol
Too clacky 
i hope when they release a improved version they will call it supernova
That would be cool
It does
Indeed it does..
I'm sorry but I be hating on flux sometimes 
In my school there are like horrible Logitech keyboards
i kinda prefer a more clear sound with the marbly
Eh it's more like the switches sound signature for me, it ain't it
Not mechanical :(
I wonder how 3D Printed Resin switches would sound
Or they could keep calling them nova pro, nova pro max, nova air, nova ultra, nova pro max ultra pro air ultra max
I like all of my boards to be bright and full sounding at least. MX has exceptions for me, thin clack, sharp clacks, sometimes foamy builds here and there. Cherry scratches.
But besides that if it's HE I just need s full sounding switch.
Just like Gateron and UR
Tip for lubing, when looking at your coating per stroke. Make sure it's an even shine without any white clumps, if there's white clumps, you over lubed. However it should be fine with HE switches whereas their mold design compared to MX is much bigger so everything just breaks in easier.
do you lube your bottom and top housing btw
Uh for my switches I do bottom housing stem rails, full stem, and top housing yes
Avoid lubing the stem hole in the bottom housing
And if you want to lower the pitch contact of the bottom out then lube the bottom housing floor
You can look at this for reference
honestly long as you do rails well and bottom of spring (or bag lube spring) you're usually good enough
Thats true
Factory lube now and then is pretty good
Most contact points for smoothness are targeted
often i don't even need to add my own lube and just spreading factory lube is enough to cover the whole stem area i need
Only then when you need to lube is just to spread it out evenly
i get confused when some people said tikkens needed more lube though, and i question if they even opened them and looked inside
because there's so much lube already lol
like even in the tikken short i took you can see the gleam of how much lube is on the stems already

Do I just lick the excess lube off 
show, 
kiwi ears astrals
Maybe it depends on the batch! I found my tikkens has almost none at all with some parts of the stem completely dry!
rare role :o
Not a problem though because it sounded much better imo after lubing
Are there any good aftermarket plate silicone or foam for the 60he? I gummy o ring mounted my wooting in a tofu60 and the foam kinda got messed up
Hello sir. Just wanted to ask, how do you think one could get the most silent switches/keyboard setup possible? I listened to these 4 switches' sound tests and they all still have distinct sound, lower pitch ofc, but definitely not silent. Is there a better switch out there for pure silence? Do I add o-rings and a Sorbothane pad in the case for more mutedness? I saw some YT vids of people attempting it before but they weren't using HE switches. Wondering what's your take on achieving this, if it's possible? lol. 🖖
those are as silent as it comes, there's no way to have 100% pure silence
the only sound left for example with the peach silent is just the sound of the materials rubbing
u think a sorbothane pad in the case would help? Was asking Gemini and it mentioned using that, lol. Is peach silent the most silent HE switch out right now? Does it beat Gateron Gentry (I know there's no sound test for that one)?
Genty silent isn’t even silent or near silent
It’s like lekker v1 level of noise
I wouldn’t do any other sound mods as your switches are already inaccurate due to silencing dampening inside those switches
there's not much else to gain sound wise by making more mods, especially with peach silent where literally all the sound is from just the stabs hitting and the rail friction
The thing is, I mod my switches for travel distance to only .5mm, so the accuracy thing for me wouldn't matter.
unless you somehow use magnets to mag lev your switch rails for no physical touch i don't think there's anything you can do there
and muting your stabilizers would make it feel awful to use
i see, gotcha.
I got a question someone might be able to answer. Why is it when I press my LControl key it acts as a toggle but it is not set as a toggle in any of the games I play and when I press another key it untoggles? Please DM me if you have any fixes or answers. ❤️
Are you using any dac/amp with it? Have u tried kiwi ears aether?
moondrop dawn pro 2
and i havent tried too many others
rakka atlas in tofu 3 would only work with the tofu plate right
so not the plate that comes with the atlas
ttc flip kom recolor: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=1018126845813
Oh the white was a recolor. That’s disappointing. I was hoping for the ttc silent
hamon lab Dama60: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=979466103843
melgeek partnership recolor
still waiting for the cream colored one
how much 
wait i think ive seen someone build in this before
Still waiting on Kafka60
Excellent, thanks
Are there any 60%, center usbc, atlas stock plat compatible (so oring / friction mount?) cases that look similar to the new tofu?
or lowkey cases that fit that criteria at all (as an alternative to the leggera)
Keebscape Solaris
749 for ano, 799 for ecoat
thx
lowkey this could be a nice option too
probably oring option aswell
Still a WIP sadly
Hello guys, i dont know if this fits in here or in keycaps. I just bought a wooting 80 HE ISO Layout. What im additionally searching are keycaps fit for the wooting 80HE.
The Keycaps need to be:
-Backlit
-ISO (DE)
-Korean (Hangeul) Sub-legends
-color doesnt really matter
I looked through the whole internet and even wrote the Wooting Support. I can't find anything. Also im a total noob when it comes to Keyboards and modding. I would appreciate any help or tips. Or if you know someone who knows someone who makes such keycaps i would be happy. I didnt imagine its that hard to find.
I don’t think that exists sorry
Best bet is to make custom keycaps
Backlit letters is already hard to find, add in iso and it’s incredibly rare combo. Then Korean sub legends makes it basically non existent
have they shared or talked anywhere about it?
I think in the typface discord
Custom keycaps, i guessed so too but all sites where i could make custom ones are all non backlit.
Guess its really hard to find then. Maybe should ask koreans? lmao
Ye ask them lol
oh i see
Found it
lol
Lol
? I think they're referring to it being a instock drop instead of group buy
Koreans use ansi so the local Korean ones are non iso. Also backlit kind of kills all the enthusiast Korean keycaps because they’re all non backlit letters
would be great (on other vendors too pls)
i encouraged them in the server
We'll see haha 
should sell very well tho
@glacial wind was about to pull the trigger on the Peach silent switches but then read they might not be the most silent. What do you think is the most "silent" switch of the silents out there?
I always wondered if there's any differences between VARO and Wooting, since I barely find any info on those kbs💔 🥀
where did you read that?
they're the most silent of all the ones i've tested
i feel you maybe read about the mx version, which has more options for silent switches overall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_OcIebjQPQ&t=111s - ok apparently Dove is a contender.
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he doesn't have a ton of silent switches, with peach silent being the most silent one i've tested so far
some reddit page lol
he's lying, it's milktooth
ya idk who/'what that is
dove is the mathew switch, which is also in the database
yeah i saw that, wasn't tested though for sound
it's louder, you can listen to that soundtest and compare
dove = mathew recolor
matthew switch oh ok
just listen to the mathew switch
it's also way rattler, it's the older version of the freya switch basically
love me some 5pin he switches
@cloud crane the reaction in the typface discord basically confirms it right
Milktooth doesn't have good recommendations lol
Hi guys recently got a 80he Hope its good
And calling the sticky rice switches thocky is just laughable
Stock or with some switches
Probably 
Stock only had to put on the switches
Which ones?
The Cheaper one’s I think the Other ones Are called cink alloy or Else (black)
So you got a PCR case?
Bro im Sorry i am Not that Deep into keyboards i dont know😪
Oh okay

You will be, neck deep 
Some new stuff to tryout Eheh
Yeees, good earthling 👽 🛸
The TI Switch is that kind of switch to always have around, just like the RAWs 😄
The Ultra Pro Plus, because, i loved the name 😄 ahahhaha
Well, the UFOs are the UFOs
Silver UFO soon
Ufo ufo ufo
@tropic urchin im geting the 80he with pcr ghost and torontokeyboardmans foam+cf plate
or should i get cf plate only
torontokeyboardscam is just reselling the tb kit
you pay extra for the convenience i guess
is there a kit on ali?
it costs more on ali 
keyboard fun store has the plates
Keebox
cf plate from tkbm is 28, but 36 on aliexpress
I just found this on AliExpress: MYR40.46 | Wooting 80HE ANSI Keyboard Plate with standoffs PC POM FR4 CF Brass( for pcb-mounted stabs)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_c4S39X8r
dunno if its any good, but i'll tell you after this weekend
How much is this for you
just make sure the plate is screw in compatible if you buy plates
33
we've had bunch of folks buy the plate mount version by mistake
is it fine using a foam sandwich pad in the 80he
ik it uses the pad as a gasketmount
i think i've gotten used to the weird cerakey + cf combo noise now
i got that one and this foam kit:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005009075761646.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.76.3648caa46GExC9&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
am currently looking at this
does foam sandwich pad work fine in place of silicone?
if not ill probably just cut the alphas out like i did with friction fit 60he+
#🌐│pc_gear message technically not keyboard modding, but finally got my cables, revised batch, original order from December 29th
Foam and fr4 black
lemme total up to how much this costs
i linked this a long time ago
201 
i actually bought the same for the 60HE ... but also want to try on my GT60 to see if its compatible
😄
whats the clear bottom piece


