🔧│keyboard_modding

[chilly mural]

I paid $70 shipping $70 tax on a glasspad without knowing I can buy it from china.

😭

[autumn temple]

@glacial wind Well yeah that was the question

If the cost isnt hidden then it is free shipping

[glacial wind]

Alright you missed the point. It’s okay.

[autumn temple]

Just because you buy things from them in the future doesnt mean that it still isnt free shipping

[autumn temple]

No I understand you're point but its still free shipping

[cyan lark]

“Shipping included” might be a more honest way to express it

[glacial wind]

yep

you're still paying for the shipping, you just see it spread over a long period of time instead

[autumn temple]

Yeah but NOT if the cost of the product has been highered

[glacial wind]

your $50 of shipping becomes $0.30 over x orders or whatever

and that's how you end up with 'free' shipping

[autumn temple]

if shipping is 0.30$ anorder then thats basically free at that point

[glacial wind]

the cost of your goods indeed go up, but it's by small enough amounts

[autumn temple]

If shipping is that low then it consider it free at that point

[glacial wind]

so the tl;dr is for example if you applied this to wooting, you could say that wooting could provide you free shipping if you promise to order $10k worth of keyboards in the future guaranteed

[autumn temple]

Yeah I got it

[glacial wind]

which should also explain why most companies straight up can't do free shipping

because their average lifetime customer value and optimisation isn't on the level of amazon

[cyan lark]

No shipping company charges 0 or 0.30 to ship something though (other than a letter)

[chilly mural]

one day, $1 shipping to send a digital code to your digital email.

[autumn temple]

@glacial wind Wooting shipping to Canada is very expensive its $25

[glacial wind]

your shipping is much cheaper than mine

shipping to me is like $40

[chilly mural]

Mine was like $50

[autumn temple]

Where are u guys from?

[glacial wind]

asia

[autumn temple]

Oh

[chilly mural]

yesh

[autumn temple]

lol

That means you better make sure everything you want is in that order lol

40/50 is insane for shipping that is the cost of some of their products

[glacial wind]

it's just how it goes unfortunately. There's no magic fix for shipping cost unless you're literally amazon level company

[autumn temple]

Yeah I understand

Unless you live nearby

Why would shipping to Canada from Netherlands be cheaper than Netherlands to Asia?

I thought Asia was closer?

Depends where you are in asia I guess

[cyan lark]

Nearness isn’t the only factor

[autumn temple]

Yeah but isnt it the largest

Factor

[glacial wind]

sometimes it's shipping routes

certain routes can be cheaper than others just due to volume/contracts etc

[cyan lark]

I’d imagine the largest factor is how many you can send at once to the region

[woven pebble]

hi chat, any switch advices for 60he?

[cyan lark]

So if the US is your biggest consumer it might be much cheaper than somewhere closer where you’re not sending as many units

[sacred elm]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[glacial wind]

wooting did do free shipping within EU/NA at one point iirc

[autumn temple]

No I dont think thats true, I think distance is the most important ?

[glacial wind]

no idea if we still do or not as i'm not in those regions

[cyan lark]

Okay 🤷

[glacial wind]

basically was only available to very local orders

[autumn temple]

Well as NA they dont lol

Local meaning what like Netherlands?

[woven pebble]

ah thanks

[glacial wind]

it was US only

iirc some US orders got 'free' shipping back when we did 80he launch

i assume it's free in the sense it's baked into our pricing back then though

[autumn temple]

Actually Netherlands ISNT extremely far from NA

My shipping route goes from Netherlands to Germany to somewhere else then Canada I think

[cyan lark]

On a galactic scale we’re all neighbors

[autumn temple]

like China is further from NA than Netherlands

I think

Products from China always take so much longer to get to me than the Wooting products

[glacial wind]

china has their own crazy path of warehouses and things

unless it's courier type mail

[autumn temple]

Yeah I bet

[glacial wind]

a lot of their mail goes through a crazy amount of sorting centers and such

if you follow an aliexpress order you can see that in action

[autumn temple]

So Wooting shipping to EU is probably the cheapest right?

EU countries are closest

[glacial wind]

yeah typically eu guys have quite good shipping rate

[autumn temple]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

same with na guys who have things baked into the pricing a bit

[near sail]

guys can i install my switches south facing in 80he?

[glacial wind]

na being US that is lol

[near sail]

my keys are opaque

[glacial wind]

if you want yeah

[near sail]

thanks so much

wooting vid confused me cuz they said south facing might damage the board for some reason

idk how thats even possible

[glacial wind]

what? what video is this

[near sail]

ill send

[glacial wind]

is it by us?

or some 3rd party

[near sail]

wooting

[glacial wind]

that can't be right

we'll generally tell people to do it north for best rgb

[near sail]

https://youtu.be/LNa5wuqiFVY

6:15

i dont really want rgb cuz my keys are opaque

i just dont want interference with keycaps basically

[glacial wind]

the 'damage your pcb' part is just a precautionary warning basically

[sacred elm]

There's no interference though

[autumn temple]

How often do you need to re-lube your switches? I asked ChatGPT it said you dont need to for like 2-3 years assuming heavy use and if the switches have been well done factory lubed

[glacial wind]

we just advise people due to getting best rgb

[sacred elm]

Why do you want to install them south facing?

[glacial wind]

there's no interference since like 2 years ago now for most switches/keycaps

[near sail]

oh ok sorry im a bit out of the loop

were the switches designed with interference in mind or something

[glacial wind]

that interference thing is from years ago before everyone started changing molds to make sure no interference

it's basically a non issue nowadays

[near sail]

ohh wow

loll thanks for letting me know

[glacial wind]

i need to unsubscribe from htx studio i think

their videos make me feel like i'm not productive enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esY3iS4l3Xs these guys building entire visual pianos and learning piano just for a 3 year build video

[autumn temple]

How often do you need to re-lube your switches? I asked ChatGPT it said you dont need to for like 2-3 years assuming heavy use and if the switches have been well done factory lubed anyone?

[glacial wind]

never

relubing switches isn't a thing for anyone except psychopaths (outside of if you have open bottom switches that can indeed leak lube)

[glossy pagoda]

I have lubed precisely 1 switch in my life and I have no intention of lubing any more

[glacial wind]

you can hand lube them once if you're particular about evenly spread lube (since factory lube can be tad uneven), but almost no one is relubing switches every 2-3 years because that's just crazy behaviour

[lucid juniper]

I think most people hand lubing their switches would probably have new switches after 2 years have passed

[autumn temple]

So lubing switches is more of a mechanical switch thing than a magnetic switch thing @glacial wind

[glacial wind]

well no, a lot of us hand lube too, but we only do it once and it's good for lifetime of the switch

and lubing from factory has improved A LOT in the last few years

[autumn temple]

Yeah thats what I meant

[glacial wind]

even a lot of mechanical switches don't need hand lube now

i think only time i've ever heard of people re-lubing switches is if they have certain level of sensory autism, but that's more personal sensitivity stuff than switches actually needing it

[autumn temple]

I bought my old 60HE a year ago I think now and there is still a glob on lube on the bottom of the stabilizers part

It just stays there

[uneven cradle]

Froggy

[fluid ravine]

gib

[glass dragon]

Raeds are the easiest switches to lube imo. You remove the rubber dome, lube the top of that and the inside housing that makes contact with it, done

Slightly more work than lubing stabs

[wary anvil]

Lubing the tikkens make an unreal difference whatt

[calm pulsar]

free money

[trail bane]

Hype

[tropic urchin]

Someone say free money?

[tropic urchin]

<@&1098943457654997093> time to crunch this poor soul

@sweet oak it’s crunching time

[harsh dove]

[calm pulsar]

give them a sec, they gotta get some of that free money first

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-crunching-sound-snoop-dogg-biting-eating-gif-12502127

[tropic urchin]

Nice crunch sir

[harsh dove]

twasnt I

Mango got em

[tropic urchin]

That boi got the crunch button ready

[sweet oak]

It’s built in our production factory

[tropic urchin]

Wait you’re saying I could’ve gotten some of Kai’s $? Damn life comes at you quick

[sweet oak]

For the MangoHE

[calm pulsar]

he must have a lot anyways, so that giveaway must have been real

[tropic urchin]

Smh

[tall hollow]

i've been subbed to them on bilibili

very good content creator studio

[tropic urchin]

So since Mr beast has no money anymore, they moved to Kai, shit who’s next

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-gif-26016517

[tall hollow]

if you look at their older videos on bilibili you will see their tech review videos that they used to do and they are equally as good in terms of production quality

[zealous flume]

guys

does foam modding work on 80he

also can you tape mod

if both work is it fine to do both together?

[tropic urchin]

Foam modding as in using different foam?

[uneven cradle]

by default it comes with a kind of tape mod applied and foam in the case

[tropic urchin]

Low adhesive painters tape should be good

[zealous flume]

so modding has generally no purpose (basically no purpose)

[uneven cradle]

for those specific mods in the 80HE not really. The type of foam used will probably change a little bit but realistically it won't be a big change

lubing stabilizers or changing switches will be much bigger differences

could even change the plate material or keycaps

[tulip rapids]

[zealous flume]

i meant for tape and foam

how do you lube stabilizers

like ik how to lube a switch but idk abt stabliizers

[uneven cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[zealous flume]

thx for the video @uneven cradle :)

also do GATERON INK V2 PRO Sakura Stabilizers work with wootings 80he

[zealous flume]

basically do most stabilizers work with it

[fallen narwhal]

Do I need dielectric grease for my stabilizers or will my krytox 205g0 work for everything

[thorn zealot]

dependin on the stab

for me 205g0 worked well with knight stabs and typeplys yikb

[stoic ocean]

i ordered a vella

after 9months of waiting

[trail bane]

Gn

[fluid ravine]

Wait you can order now?

[stoic ocean]

since 11 am GMT

[tulip rapids]

whats a vella

[fluid ravine]

OOO

[fluid ravine]

Gummy mount case

Made for benom

[tulip rapids]

[fluid ravine]

Vella 60PE Keyboard – Bowl Keyboards https://share.google/Rnukro7kncQtEeDUG

60PE 😭

[tulip rapids]

thats tuff

[stoic ocean]

I was going to order from Deltakeyco, but in the end I ordered from Prototypist. While Delta was waiting for their orders and considering the prices, I preferred to order from Proto.

I paid around €190

[uneven cradle]

Think I've reached my keyboard quota for now still have two keyboards coming

[stoic ocean]

guys I bought it in silver

[fluid ravine]

$148 total

For me

[fluid ravine]

Ooo

[stoic ocean]

I've been waiting for it for so long, I was going to get it in black, but as time went on, the silver seemed more beautiful to me.

[stoic ocean]

Without pcb ?

[fluid ravine]

I have a venom

Lol

[stoic ocean]

Ah yeah so you pay less

[fluid ravine]

I'm thinking of getting the case with a CF 7U plate

Should I buy?

[stoic ocean]

He'll give us duhuk and knight v4 if you pre-order

[tulip rapids]

this is the wrong chat to ask

we always spends money here

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[tulip rapids]

BUY IT

[fluid ravine]

Damn I'll take stabs ig

Already got Duhuk's 😭

[stoic ocean]

On proto only contained 7u aluminum.

[fluid ravine]

I'm getting from Bowl Website

I'm in NA

[fluid ravine]

Damn got that already as well LOL

[stoic ocean]

I actually had the choice between the UK or DeltaKeyco; I tried with Bowl and it came to €290. 💀

[uneven cradle]

I'm running out of space for all these boards too

[stoic ocean]

Since I live in France, the delivery is very similar to Delta

[fluid ravine]

Ok

Fucking hell all of my plans are getting messed up

Left and right

[tulip rapids]

yamate kurdasai

!!!

[stoic ocean]

I've been waiting for it ever since I joined this server

[tulip rapids]

im joking dont let the volleyball plans get ruined

DX

[stoic ocean]

And in 4 days there's the Gehirn60 👀

with the rakka

[fluid ravine]

I think I ordered everything I need

I got my compression gear, balls for my team

Yea I don't think I need anything else

Mouse I can't order cus I'm waiting for the kit to restock in a sanded and coat ver. Only the raw coating is out

[robust siren]

i might get it now cause i have bakka

but thats future me issue

[fluid ravine]

I might do black

Gonna use my GMK black snails on them

This but black Vella

[robust siren]

i do need a black case for my pbtfan crosshairs now…

[pallid grove]

Hello, does anyone use the UR Ice Ultra switches? If so any good?

[dusky olive]

can someone answer my question in #🤩│wooting60hev2 super quick pls

[stoic ocean]

Either black or silver, those are the two prettiest in my opinion.

[tulip rapids]

yes

the answer is yes

[dusky olive]

oh okay thanks

[stoic ocean]

Now, having seen the Gehirn60, which color should I get

[tulip rapids]

youre using a friction pad with the 60v2 module

one of the features is being able to take out the case with ease

[dusky olive]

Ohhhh okau thanks so much

im new toa ll thos stuff so idk much 😭

[tulip rapids]

all good dw

[zealous flume]

yo, for lubing stabilizers, does silicon grease work instead of dielectric grease?

[cyan lark]

Silicone grease is dielectric grease to my knowledge

[tall hollow]

well, not always, but the main ingredient is the same

the additives may be different between them

[cyan lark]

Gotcha. I guess play at your own risk, then.

[cloud crane]

Anomaly or Gambling Ages or Mechamelon

[robust siren]

theyre a really good budget switch

im testing them in 2 weeks when i get back to the US

[pallid grove]

Thanks for the help, they stuck out to me as they are translucent as I want to use side facing keycaps which is a pain for north LEDs

[fluid ravine]

gotta be fking serious

7u cf plate is sold out

f my life

[tropic urchin]

fk

[fluid ravine]

i guess im buying the case alone

$130

[polar girder]

what case?

[fluid ravine]

Vella

damnit i wish they sold the bottom blocker seperately

i wanna try WKL but ik damn well im gonna need my WK

[polar girder]

Mino keys has it

7u CF

[fluid ravine]

who dat

[polar girder]

And black Vella

$22 shipping

From Canada

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

Bowl's shipping for me is $13

[polar girder]

They only have 3 black left

And 8 7u CF plates

Whatever works

I was just checking it out and thought I would share

[fluid ravine]

o

its like a good few dollars more

$148 from bowls

$151 from mino

[polar girder]

Didn’t you say Bowls doesn’t have 7u CF tho?

[fluid ravine]

im saying like if

bowls just ran out of 7u cf

just now

[fluid ravine]

nvm mino keys is $1 cheaper
it was 151 cus there was a protection plan on the shipping

xd

alr ill buy from mino keys then

thanks bigsly

[polar girder]

lol oh

[craggy spear]

Just me...? Jade pros vs Geon Raws they sound almost identical and whichever has a 'sale' for cheaper is what I'd go with?

I found a steal of a deal for 70 pieces of jade pros during black friday for like 25 bucks.. half off.. can't justify buying raws full price now to try them when I can barely hear a difference blindfolded?

[wintry pollen]

Can anyone help in #🌟│wooting80he pls?

[tropic urchin]

id probably go for owlabs ti he (and other newer switches) over Raws/jade pros, but if you're going just based off cost thats not too bad

[fluid ravine]

@glacial wind have you tried AGS Radiant HE?

[glacial wind]

yeah

it's just hmx crystal

[fluid ravine]

PFFTT

i figured xd

[glacial wind]

i don't know why hmx version of this fiberglass stuff barely makes a difference

[fluid ravine]

just a bit different on the material spec sheet?

huh

interesting

[glacial wind]

duhuks version is way different

[fluid ravine]

compound mixture or sumn

[glacial wind]

you can hear the sound change so clearly with duhuk, but hmx version it's barely different

like average person probably doesn't even notice these being any different to raptor v2 and such

[fluid ravine]

:l

is it in your sound database?

i wanna listen

[glacial wind]

not yet, haven't had time to record sound test for them, but it's literally just hmx crystal which is there

[fluid ravine]

mmm ok

[glacial wind]

like put them next to each other and i can't even tell them apart

[fluid ravine]

im listening between raptor v2 and hmx crystals

rn

like i can hear the slight difference but i really doubt any avg person can hear it

[glacial wind]

yeah it's incredibly small

[fluid ravine]

could be the influence of the top housing sound or the fiberglass but the pitch difference is like small

avg use can't even tell what's what

[glacial wind]

i think their material is just meh, maybe low amount of fiberglass or something

[fluid ravine]

raptor to me sound a tiny bit more flat but that's just me

[fluid ravine]

wait so what does the percentage mean when they state fiberglass in its mixture?

wouldnt be how much they add or..

[glacial wind]

i assume it's the mix percent

[broken notch]

Hello Wooting crew! Has anyone per chance upgraded from Gateron Jades to like the newer Lekker Tikken Medium?

[fluid ravine]

that is so odd..

[broken notch]

(I am in the process of fully setting up my first wooting!)

[fluid ravine]

Duhuks and crystals are both PA66 with a 30% fiberglass mixture

travel distance of both stated are like a .1mm difference

but that could also be placebo anyways

[broken notch]

Got my ribbon (very important) and keycaps chosen, now I decided to invest in switches and a neat case

[fluid ravine]

Though i must wonder
Would the really loud/sharp bottom out be the same if Duhuk core uses the HMX crystal stem? Cus i've always wished there was a switch like Duhuk but without that stupid repelling bs when topping out.

That damn stem gimmick feels like a one stroke actuation when typing

its really annoying i cant lie

[tulip rapids]

will we ever see a wooting mx board 👀

[glacial wind]

almost definitely not

[fluid ravine]

you tell me
a HE company making a MX keyboard?

[tulip rapids]

open yo mind

[fluid ravine]

my mind is CLOSED

Ask shenron to open my mind

[tulip rapids]

this isnt very hongdae of you

[glacial wind]

wooting barely has enough time for the projects we want to do, much less random stuff like mx boards

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-reading-open-minded-hongdae-guy-gif-17970415945117975696

[tulip rapids]

a simple commoner like me wouldnt know about wooting future projects

https://tenor.com/view/common-rain-frog-frog-in-train-frog-looking-out-train-window-for-len-from-nic-cuz-we-couldnt-find-this-as-a-gif-alrdy-gif-3679557726432238120

im just a pleb

im just a pleb with a dream

[fluid ravine]

Dude im tripping out right nowww
Duhuk and HMX crystal sound similar in terms of bottom out, I just have a feeling that the top out is like influencing on how it fully sounds overall

going off from your sound test sno

[broken notch]

Oh, how do you get the ihaswooting role? Is there a process I need to go through?

[fluid ravine]

connect your discord to your wooting hub

[broken notch]

Ooooh

Okay!

Sorry for the interruption

[tulip rapids]

what about wooting ufo switch

bfo bwitch

probably be too heavy bruh

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

whats the gf?

[tulip rapids]

40g but feel like 80g

[fluid ravine]

you have it?

[tulip rapids]

no

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[tulip rapids]

💀

how would i have wooting bfo bwitch bruh

it aint a thing

DX

[fluid ravine]

no im talking about ufo

from gravastar

or wtv theyre called

[tulip rapids]

naw im happy with my dcf

[fluid ravine]

ah

[cloud crane]

1.5kg razer greens

[tulip rapids]

the ufos dont look bad

but i barely had my dcf for long

i aint trying to spend more money

they only switches i want to test out right now is tikkens

but we shall see

dcf made such an impression on me compared to my owlabs and geon i dont see myself changing switches for a while

[broken notch]

We pink now, my journey begins

[fluid ravine]

naice!

[broken notch]

Same!

I wish we could buy a tryout package with mixed switches

[tulip rapids]

if youre coming from lekkers l60 they are a huge difference

[broken notch]

I'm on uh. Gateron Jades inside a 60HE

From a year back

I'm looking at the specs and the yiutube vids, but I wish I could try them first

The lekker tikken v2 weren't out yet, alas

Actually I have a really stupid/silly question

The little nubs/screws on the ribbon connector

What are they actually called?

Because I'd like to find custom colored ones, but I don't know what the technical term is for them

It's like a screw and a screw top, but that's silly to google/search

[broken notch]

Thank you so much

I'm thinking these with a nice same colored anodised red holy60-like case

Appearantly they're also known as "chicago screws"

If anyone was wondering

[delicate fiber]

Hey guys, do you think lubing the top of the switch housing would get rid of the upstroke clack on lekker tikkens v2?

[stoic ocean]

Prototypist got only the alu🥀

[cloud crane]

Holy moly kosio already got the protagonist he

[stoic ocean]

Normally the Vella accepts all the plates of the Venom 60HE, so you can get one on AliExpress and you're good to go.

[humble surge]

@trail bane I must say these Novas are pretty good, a little more quiet and thocky than my UFOs, top and bottom wobble feels nearly identical and the RGB shine through is obviously stronger. Will leave it on WASD for a day or so to see if i was wrong in the initial assessment

[glacial wind]

i still need to order novas

their website is dumb and doesn't ship to korea

[peak breach]

Any news on the switch selector updates

[glacial wind]

I assume it’s still just waiting for final ui/graphic stuff. The second batch were all data recorded by Dominik already

[broken notch]

Do you have a link to your original assessment?

[humble surge]

It's the one above, i posted it after about 20 minutes of usage.

[broken notch]

Ah, okay!

I'm also looking at UFO atm, I'm not even sure I can get Novas shipped to Belgium

[humble surge]

They are extremely pricey and i couldn't find a way to have more than 10 per box shipped, so i only got a sample on sale.
While they are great, i would rather get the UFOs, especially since they got cheaper than initially.
Novas with the current pricing are as much as original UFO price (insane).

[broken notch]

Okay, that helps a lot, thank you

[fossil tinsel]

Any keycaps that fit well with 80he ghost pcr?

[spring steeple]

Guys i have problem with my 60 he v2 module, stabilizers on the space bar are shit ,changed switch so is not from the switch, can you recommend which mod to do and what to lube.. i want it perfect

[broken notch]

Which two switches did you test then?

[fluid ravine]

I got an Alu plate and FR4 plate for my venom anyways so I'm good but thanks for letting me know. Minokeys sells the Vella as well with the 7u CF so I will be ordering as soon as possible

[spring steeple]

I have only 1 switch, not 2. Lekker L45 V2

[stoic ocean]

You're doing well, I only had Prototypist as a choice.

[calm cypress]

Any1 want a sound test for my modded Wooting 80he? I lubed it Yesterday

[tardy marsh]

Where is the best spot to get key caps for the 60 he v2

[broken notch]

Heya!

[calm cypress]

Newly modded

[robust siren]

debtson

[humble surge]

Applied the last 6 aswell, slowly growing on me, increasing test size a little :)

[trail bane]

You definitely should

[glacial wind]

The problem is it’s only available on aliexpress right now at absurd markup

It’s already $1+ per switch at their official site but it’s large markup on aliexpress since no proper sellers there for it

Just people ordering them and throwing giant markup on it to resell

They have keytok and some other supplier but none of them ship to kr

[uneven rapids]

Hello, if I want to lube my stabilizers, do I have to disassemble the wire and stem, or could I just lube the inside of it without disassembling?

I'm scared I could do something wrong

[near sail]

does wootility have something for 80he lightbar where like i can animate it when i plug it in or use it after being idle

kinda like

flashes left to right like a "welcome" or something

[random cypress]

If you have a syringe you can do a quick lube without disassembling it

[uneven rapids]

I only have the wooting brush I bought

[near sail]

if u are willing to spend time, u can do a better job by taking the wire and stem out completely and working on it outside the keyboard

what keyboard do u have

[uneven rapids]

The 80he

[near sail]

ah ok i just built mine and modded my stabilizers

i can tell u my experience if u want

[uneven rapids]

Im just not sure how to take the wire out

And put it back in after

[near sail]

for the 80he the stabilizers are screwed into the pcb which is covered by the plate

u have to take the plate off with like 15 screws

[uneven rapids]

I actually have unscrewed them already

[near sail]

what did u unscrew

the plate?

[random cypress]

i would open it then. Would be hard to do without making a mess. It'll be more thorough either way if you open it

[uneven rapids]

The stabilizers

[sacred elm]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8

[near sail]

are they not stuck behind the plate

did u take the plate off too?

[uneven rapids]

Yes

[sacred elm]

No, 80HE has screw in stabilizers

[near sail]

oh so u just have the pcb then

[near sail]

ye i know

[uneven rapids]

Yes

And I unscrewed the stabs as well

[near sail]

so u can take them out right

[uneven rapids]

So now I only have to take the wire out but idk how

[near sail]

ohhh okay okay

my bad

uhh if u watch some ppl modding stabilizers

u can see how they put it together

hold on ill find an example

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8

on this video go to 3:13 for the stem and housing and 6:22 to clip the wire into the housing

@uneven rapids

[glacial bear]

Hey all, im planning on getting a 60 he v2 module with the frog mini leggera case. Never done anything with a keyboard before so was wondering does anyone know if i should get the tray or o ring and how would i go about grounding the keyboard. Thanks! if you have any recommendations for a red metal case that may be better i'm open. And will there be anything else i need to get besides the obvious switches and keycaps.

[thorn zealot]

U can’t get the oring version with wooting cuz of the usb port

[uneven rapids]

In the video the wire is already out

[near sail]

u see how he tilts it and it snaps into place

do the opposite and u will be able to take the wire out

[glacial bear]

yeah okay thats what i thought from pictures but just wanted to confirm

[near sail]

tilt the housing

did u manage?

[uneven rapids]

Lol

Not really, like I can't really see the motion used in any video

I don't want to break anything

[near sail]

ima record a vid

wait

[robust siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yz-UzTY8_I

my go-to video for stabilizers

[near sail]

see how i tilt it towards the wire

[uneven rapids]

You push the stem at the same time?

[near sail]

what do u mean

oh i see

[uneven rapids]

Are you just tilting it towards the wire or are you also pushing the button at the same time?

[near sail]

i was just tilting it

i held the stem for extra leverage

but you can do it with just the housing

[uneven rapids]

Oh ok

I will try you are the boss

[near sail]

u got this

[uneven rapids]

Perfect I just did it!

[near sail]

nice bro have fun modding

[uneven rapids]

Thanks a lot

[near sail]

to put the wire back in its similar just tilt it back in

i tried to push straight down but for some reason it doesnt work like that

tilting it in works well

dont forget the orientation of the stem tho

[uneven rapids]

Ok thanks!

[near sail]

goodluck

[uneven rapids]

Also, do you recommend lubing the angle of the wire and a bit after ?

Calder in his video lube the angle and like 2mm after

[near sail]

just a bit

the place where it snaps back in

[uneven rapids]

I have seen a guy say not to lube the angle

[near sail]

im not sure

i did personally

if u find out let me know

[uneven rapids]

I couldnt really find so I think I will do what Calder did

Lubing the angle as well

[random cypress]

in alexotos vid where he doesn't go up the bend initially, he does lube that part afterwards when they are on the board. The reason he does it that way (from my understanding) is that he starts with less then apply more after testing to see if there is any rattle after the first coat. Too much lube can make it mushy

[astral fox]

does the wooting 60he v2 work with cases that the original worked with

what’s some good keycap websites

[tropic urchin]

PBTFans, monitoring GMK group buys (more expensive but has more fun sets) and using this link to see whats available in your region: https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Keykobo and CPR ppl like as well

[fluid ravine]

Indeed.

[tropic urchin]

from debtson to baldson, all it takes is 1 application

[fluid ravine]

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-gif-14865294

[cyan lark]

We need a stable financial advice channel to counter this one

Or at least pinned links to debt crisis hotlines

[robust siren]

i need one in model car stores

[chilly mural]

in this economy? Try 15

[tropic urchin]

"help i had to use Klarna to finance my new GMK keycaps got any help unc?"

[robust siren]

the skyline r34 was nearly $60

[tropic urchin]

how much time you think frog bois got

[chilly mural]

can't get poor if you can't afford

[chilly mural]

at least 1 year

[tropic urchin]

damn

@fluid ravine shotmisser just signed you up for 15 applications

Fs in chat

[fluid ravine]

[robust siren]

car collection so far (china+japan trip)

need at least double ts

[chilly mural]

time to walk 10 hours a day

[robust siren]

already did today

[chilly mural]

do it again

[robust siren]

im gonna die

[cyan lark]

Oh buddy not being able to afford things is the best way to get poor 😥

[lucid juniper]

climb 60 flights of stairs

[cyan lark]

That's what minimum monthly payments and payday loads excel at

[lucid juniper]

avg japan shopping experience

[robust siren]

theres escalators going up but not down

in most places

but smaller shops are stairs only

[lucid juniper]

I think I missed all the shops with escalators
But the ones that had them always had them both up and down

what kinda shop only has escalators up, I saw that at some train stations but I don't recall any stores like that

[uneven rapids]

I may have applied a lot of lube... but Calder says to do so apparently

[elder yacht]

Guys i wanna lube my prelubed was flux switches but idk how and where to lube anyone know?

[tropic urchin]

It’s about the same as any other switch, you’ll need a kailh opener but I’d bag lube springs and lube the stem rails on the bottom and top housings (don’t go overboard here)

Stem should have decent lube on it assuming you have the pink version

[elder yacht]

I’m worried about over lubing as they are already prelubed

[elder yacht]

Yea deep clack

[tropic urchin]

You will overlube some depending on experience, but it isn’t the end of the world. You just gotta wipe off the magnet and use isopropyl sparingly on a Q tip to get any extra out

[sacred elm]

don't lube this spot, where the magnet goes

[tropic urchin]

Nothing is permanent regarding lube

[elder yacht]

alright thanks so much

[elder yacht]

Ah ok

also how can I take out the switches with my switch puller without damaging them

[tropic urchin]

No worries, I think hand lubing gives you a pretty good experience vs stock after you use them for a bit

[tropic urchin]

Are you using the default puller?

[elder yacht]

yes,the one that comes with shootings lube kit

[sacred elm]

Just like any other switch, push the top/bottom clips, wiggle and then pull the switch from the south first

[elder yacht]

mine is metal

[tropic urchin]

You should be fine then

The plastic one is straight ewaste

[elder yacht]

yeah

[tropic urchin]

I’m prob gonna have to relube mine once the new 45g flux springs are available to buy, fuck 😭

[elder yacht]

xD

tysm for the help I really appreciate it.

[tropic urchin]

Anytime boss

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/tsurumi-wink-golden-kamuy-gif-26994283

[autumn temple]

I just got my UR ice ultras but they feel wayy to light should I spring swap them? Cuase 35g - 50g feels too light for me its most likely because the initial force is too low for me since I liked the Tikkens force feel

Would spring swapping from 35g -50g to 40g -60g I was thinking

[tropic urchin]

you can if you want, but id just raise your actuation/RT values first and see how it goes. its going to be alot of work if you spring swap and dont like new springs.

or better yet just get the geon pingless 52.5g or 62.5g

[autumn temple]

So personally for me if I set the actuation lower that wouldnt change the feel for me personally so it wouldnt accomplish the harder feel + well obviously first before I spring swap a whole bunch lol I would just spring swap a few put it in my board see how it feels then take it from there

[tropic urchin]

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-pingless-he-compatible-springs or https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-pingless-he-compatibility-springs depending on your region

[uneven rapids]

Hey guys, I have a doubt what is the side I should install my Lekkers Tikkens

I dont know where is the north and the south on the switch

[autumn temple]

1. What are the initial forces on these I dont see the number?
2. Are those springs better than the Wooting Springs?

[tropic urchin]

find the light diffuser and that should be facing up

[uneven rapids]

Is this the correct side?

[peak breach]

No

[tropic urchin]

1). i dont have the initials handy, but they should feel heavier than your standard 50g springs. 2). they are high quality springs, reason why I added them was bc they add an extra 2.5 grams to it

[autumn temple]

The other way around that is south facing what you just showed us

[peak breach]

Big window towards LED

[uneven rapids]

On the 80he, isnt the led on the top?

On my picture, the big window is on the top right?

[tropic urchin]

This is what you want

[tulip rapids]

get ufo switches they heavy bruh

[uneven rapids]

So the wooting logo on the switch should be facing north?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that’s the light diffuser

[uneven rapids]

Oh ok, to me I see more a window on the other side. I was thinking the logo could get in the way of light

[glacial wind]

if he wants same start/end as wooting spring he can't use pingless from geon

since it's short spring and the start/end will be way different

will need to spring swap tikkens if he wants the same feel

[uneven rapids]

Many thanks!

[autumn temple]

Oh so basically buy switch opener and swap springs from my Tikkens into my UR ice?

I think its because of the initial force 35g that is why it feels too light

[glacial wind]

yeah, if you want long spring feel then you need a long spring because the unique thing with long springs is you can do more with the start/end force than shorter spring

for example tikken start end is like 42-54 iirc

[autumn temple]

If I think 35-50g is too light what springs would you recommend

[glacial wind]

which is very very tight

well long springs are hard to find online in good quality is the problem

[autumn temple]

That force felt pretty good to me definitely not light

[glacial wind]

most people just spring swap from existing switches

[autumn temple]

35-50g feels way too lgiht

[glacial wind]

well then if you don't mind spring swapping just take them from your tikkens

but be aware that that spring is made for 4mm is the problem

so changing the tension will change things also

[autumn temple]

What about the 60g end force spring pack from wooting?

[glacial wind]

you'll have to experiment, swap a few and see how you like it

[autumn temple]

Yeah basically

[glacial wind]

you can, but it's going to be all experimenting for you

[autumn temple]

Yeah thats true

[glacial wind]

because there's no way to perfectly replicate tikken 4mm in a shorter switch

[autumn temple]

Is there any problem with putting a 4mm switch spring into a 3.5mm switch?

[glacial wind]

so you'll just need to swap it and see how you feel

no problem, although we can't tell you if you'll like it or not

it's just up to you to try it out and see

[autumn temple]

Oh yeah I get that I just as long as there wont be any issues then its worth experimenting with

Do you think 35g intial is pretty light

compared to most switches out there is lighter than the average

[glacial wind]

not for me, but i'm used to different springs

you get used to different spring weights after like a week on them honestly

[autumn temple]

True but I still prefer a switch that falls somewhere in between in the middle even though you could get used to it I just prefer a heavier switch

Not like SUPER heavy just heavy enough like somewhere in the middle

[sacred elm]

50g is the middle

most switches use 35/50g springs

[autumn temple]

Tikkens arent

I just dont like 35g initial it feels way too light

50g bottom out isnt bad I think its the initial that changes the whole feel

[tulip rapids]

I'll never forget 40g geon raws 🤢

[fluid ravine]

My beloved 22mm 65g springs

[autumn temple]

40g bottom out ? Also what did you not like about the geon raws?

[tulip rapids]

everything but sound profile was good

For its time

[autumn temple]

Yeah same I like the sound profile of them ! But I also dont like the weighting of them either and the stem wobble is a tad too much any recommendations what are other switches that have that same sound as the geon raws but better stability?

[broken notch]

I just ordered UFOs, I'm hearing good things!

[tulip rapids]

40g and stem wobble made me throw comp games

too light bruh

[fluid ravine]

I agree

I ordered 40g raws for a client build and boy that shit was light af

[autumn temple]

Alright bro thats a bit dramatic it made you throw comp games lol but yeah I defintiely get you for the too light they are definitely too light but that is why you can purchase them in 60g bottom out which is better

[fluid ravine]

60g is da weh

[autumn temple]

Yeah its too light think im gonna buy them at 60g

Yeah exactly

[fluid ravine]

Had them for my main build back then

[autumn temple]

They are very good switches if only the stem wobble was slightly better they woudl be phenomenal switches

[fluid ravine]

50-65g are my preference in springs

Need to be at least 18mm doe

[autumn temple]

Same

[autumn temple]

Wht difference does stem length make

[fluid ravine]

I like the rebound on longer springs

[fluid ravine]

Lemme quote rq

[autumn temple]

I dont even think that I notice that

[fluid ravine]

The design of the two-stage spring makes it longer than a normal “one-stage” spring. This means that the spring is compressed more than a one-stage spring during the unactivated state, and it reaches its bottom out weight more quickly. This makes the downpress feel more firm and consistent, as there is a smaller range of forces between the beginning of the keypress until bottom out or even actuation. In addition, the upstroke after lifting your finger is noticeably faster, meaning that there is the ability to rapidly repeat keystrokes in a shorter amount of time. Two-stage springs are also less likely to have spring ping because being more compressed even in the unactivated state means that there is less room for the spring to move/rotate around.

[autumn temple]

Maybe its more important for some people but I dont think I even notice it that much tbh

[fluid ravine]

Two stage or longer springs

[fluid ravine]

Besides feel I also did it for the sake of sound

There's a subtle difference that I like from ot

[autumn temple]

Are there any other switches out there that sound like the geon raws?

Just higher stability and better quality

[fluid ravine]

Owlab Ti HE

[autumn temple]

Really owlabs?

[fluid ravine]

Yeh

[autumn temple]

Thought owlabs were louder?

[fluid ravine]

Same same

Or similar

[autumn temple]

Actually

[fluid ravine]

Only reason why theyre louder bc theyre full closed bottom

[autumn temple]

Oh

[fluid ravine]

But essentially the same as raws but a bit better stem tolerance

We just called them geon raws but closed bottom

[autumn temple]

@glacial wind @sacred elm are the lekker springs here https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35 compatible on the UR ice Ultras?

[tulip rapids]

yuuuuuck

clucking chicken switches

😭

[autumn temple]

what are your favourite switches since you said you liked the raws also>

[tulip rapids]

right now deep clack fluxes

but you wont like them

[fluid ravine]

I still need a name for my fraken switches

[tulip rapids]

what the two materials ?

[fluid ravine]

Shi uh

[autumn temple]

Why wouldnt I like them

[tulip rapids]

initial force like 35g iirc

[autumn temple]

oh

[fluid ravine]

Duhuk Top Housing
Geon Raw Stem
22mm 65g springs
Tikken Bottom Housing

[tulip rapids]

owlabs were a good switch but theyre too loud imo

im on a pc plate too

[fluid ravine]

Typically I use 2 switches to Frankenstein the name but it's 3 now

[autumn temple]

yea I dont like super loud switches either

[tulip rapids]

RAWUK

thats tuff bro

[fluid ravine]

Rawukken

Hold on

[tulip rapids]

or RUWUK

[fluid ravine]

Cooking

[tulip rapids]

HARUKKEN

[fluid ravine]

Heck na

[tulip rapids]

close to hadouken

[fluid ravine]

Lmao

[tulip rapids]

geohuk

hear me out

geon daw

[fluid ravine]

DuhRawken

The Rock en

[tulip rapids]

money shot right there

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-grumbly-gif-9002736597907977825

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

Was gonna say Durakken
But I wanted "The rock" in the sound

It was funni

[tulip rapids]

thats why i hated raws so much 27g initial force on 40g bottom out

with stem wobble

https://tenor.com/view/model-heels-wobble-runway-trip-gif-3534249

[fluid ravine]

[tropic urchin]

Jade Pro/Tikken top wobble got me like:

[tulip rapids]

sno with his ps2 theme keycaps

https://tenor.com/view/snowman-mewing-gif-2279459253930844617

[uneven cradle]

PS1

[tulip rapids]

I will have this one day in my collection

[trail bane]

Imagine being banned in Klarna

[autumn temple]

@glacial wind what switches would you recommend if I bought a 10pc of geon raws I like the sound of them I just dont like the stem wobble isnt great at all ?

[glacial wind]

owlab ti he, but they're way louder

it's hard to find switches the same as raw he exactly in sound, because they have a unique semi closed bottom

[autumn temple]

True

I dont know of any other switch that also has a semiclosed bottom might just buy them at 60g and say fuck it

[tulip rapids]

sno where did you buy your ps2 theme keycaps ali express?

i remember you sent the link once a couple of months back

need to also get a nice sony lenses to take a beautiful picture of my future playstation theme collection

[paper bison]

tx ap stabs arrived yippee

[glacial wind]

mine were local, but they're definitely on aliexpress too

just search ps1994 80retros

[tulip rapids]

ty king

also non keyboard related i found this cool ps2 themed coasters

we spending money chat

[uneven cradle]

True, very important

[polar girder]

Fire

[calm pulsar]

approved

a real ps2 would be more fire tho

[uneven cradle]

Need a working eject button to dispense coasters

[tulip rapids]

it was from etsy lmk if you want da link

damn that ps2 keycap sold out everywhere

[calm pulsar]

I wouldn't be able to order from there anyways

[tulip rapids]

i'll smuggle them in for you

[tropic urchin]

They have one it’s called рудадр

[uneven rapids]

hello, if I press strong enough the right part and left part of my right shift key on 80he, the other part just snap out a bit

is it normal? I just lubed my stabilizers so maybe I did something wrong putting everything back in

[tropic urchin]

yeah its what happens usually on spacebar when you dont have long pole stabs, its not too noticeable on knight v4 but unless you consciously do it then you typically shouldnt notice it

[uneven rapids]

also there is a small high pitch noise when pressing the left part

[tropic urchin]

you can get geon stem spacers which will effectively eliminate that issue

[tropic urchin]

probably needs to be tuned on that side

[uneven rapids]

oh okay so thats normal, fine!

[uneven rapids]

could it be because there is too much lube or something?

[tropic urchin]

if there's too much lube then it ends up sticking or not returning at all (meaning it gets stuck when you bottom out)

atleast in my experience thats what happened

if its brighter or has a metallic sound then it needs to be tuned

[uneven rapids]

ok, what do you mean by tuned ? maybe it's not screwed in well?

[tropic urchin]

you essentially straighten the wire so its perfectly flat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[fluid ravine]

will this make my stabilizers thock?

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/kucapalau-gif-4258305843512824118

https://tenor.com/view/agenturleben-agencylife-hannover-kochstrasse-kstr-gif-27424221

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-boing-magnet-gif-68133971528297969

how am i suppose to achieve the role of thockson if i can't make my stabilizer thock

[tulip rapids]

i need the thockiest creamy switch for the balorant

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-cat-cat-knife-cat-knife-cat-angry-gif-9404759922388476738

[paper bison]

guys what is the thockiest creamiest clackiest sexiest butteriest smoothest switch for my runescape gameplay

[tropic urchin]

I thought CS was the only game you are allowed to play these days

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-lip-bite-emoji-gif-27518891

[tulip rapids]

i need the rgb guns for the balorant

[fluid ravine]

i need the creamiest slipperiest thockiest thackiest slappiest flappiest butteriest clappiest sounding switch for my clam chowder recipe

where can i find

[tulip rapids]

and the people to be constantly meowing in my ear while throwing my games

[tropic urchin]

isnt that blasphemy when you have BBQ

[fluid ravine]

LOL

i need the more TENDERIEST

SMOKIEST

BRISKIEST

[tropic urchin]

nah thats tuff

[fluid ravine]

ima stop

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

real

[delicate fiber]

Hey guys, you think lubing the top of the switch housing would get rid fof the clacky sound of the upstroke?

[tropic urchin]

id do unholy things for a brisketHE

[tulip rapids]

give me that juicy deep thocky clappy clicky clacky ooga booga switches for da bort nite

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/tenderism-fall-off-the-bone-bbq-tender-gif-7980563929632569908

[tropic urchin]

oh my

[fluid ravine]

it will slightly dampen it yes

[tropic urchin]

😳

[tulip rapids]

i seen his video that meat good bruh

[fluid ravine]

but once its broken in id doubt it will help anymore

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

dude i miss texas bbq

i fking live in texas yet i rarely eat bbq from here

wth am i doing

[tropic urchin]

you got time still yunc

[fluid ravine]

yunc

[tulip rapids]

WHA DA HELLY

what you doing bruh

this aint new york china town

go eat some real meat bruh

living in texan COUNTRY

[tropic urchin]

Chinatown still kinda fire tho

[fluid ravine]

fr

[fluid ravine]

ion think i've been to chinatown..

[tropic urchin]

nice starcraft guide

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

need this but in HE format

would be nice

[tropic urchin]

always knew you were a protoss main

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

@delicate fiber you can try to lube the top point of the stem rail and the top housing points (in yellow) to maybe increase the dampening

i've done this to all of my HE switches i lubed and yeah it worked a good bit

i haven't paid attention to how long it lasted though but i'd say even after broken in its still better than what it was before

proceeds to type a whole essay on why it works

jk

[tropic urchin]

might have to as a side project essay for a "oh what do you want to write" type shiiii

iykyk

[fluid ravine]

might have to do a PBL project on a wooting build

iykyk

[delicate fiber]

@fluid ravine might just try that I guess. It's the lekker tikkens v2... any idea about the spacebar foam thicknes? I was looking at some KBD stuff and they come in different thickness... I was thinking more is better but I'm not sure if 9.5 mm would affect any clearance. https://www.mechmods.co.uk/products/kbdfans-mechanical-keyboard-spacebar-foam?_pos=1&_sid=ad70f6a00&_ss=r&variant=42455299555551

[fluid ravine]

oof i dont know anything about spacebar foam so i can't help you there

not a big fan of them

someone else can help you tho

@robust siren get yo big butt here, you use spacebar foam dont ya

[fluid ravine]

9.5 💀

[tropic urchin]

yeah dont get 9.5

unless you're using a Hipyo MX65

[delicate fiber]

ok, thanks anyway, I'll see how far I get with just the lubing part and how much more enthusiastic I'll be feeling afterwards 😄 It's a lot of switches I have a Two HE 😄

[tropic urchin]

ooooooooooofffffff

[fluid ravine]

Ah

[tropic urchin]

84 makes me wanna toss my keyboard out everytime i do it, gl sir

[delicate fiber]

bet

I see 3.5 mm is kinda recomended so I won't be experimenting much

by the time i'm finished, I'll master the technique

[little glen]

never heard of the lekker tikken v2

[cyan lark]

Titon realest?

[autumn temple]

Just noticed this new feature in Wootility not sure I completely understand and should I enable this or not? If it helps me be less inaccurate then I guess I should turn it on?

[little glen]

Only turn it on if you have switches with dampeners/rubber o rings or similar

That would cause your stuff to bounce a little when reaching the end of their travel

[robust siren]

idk a few i went to were like that

[robust siren]

not in the v2

[autumn temple]

What if you turn it on and you dont have any of that stuff?

Like dampeners

[rustic salmon]

I’m a cheap girl

I got the keychron he

But

Sounds fire

[little glen]

It might lead to weird/unwanted behavior

[autumn temple]

I have it turned on so far with the UR ice ultras and so far idk if it placebo but it feels better I think ?

Like less mistakes / typos but could be placebo

[rustic salmon]

Anyone got any good keycap options for a black aluminum case kb?

[tulip rapids]

depends what your budget it

[rustic salmon]

50$

For a 75%

[trail bane]

Gn

[cyan lark]

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[tulip rapids]

wooting keycaps

[fluid ravine]

Prob smth like NicePBT from Cannonkeys

[cyan lark]

Not even gonna cast doubt

I think I might be sold on PBT over GMK ABS 😮
Been really enjoying this PBTFans set

[tropic urchin]

Common Varedis W

[fluid ravine]

PBTfan ABS

[tulip rapids]

what set are you using now

I'm looking at getting dual shot 2 and retro ps1994 set (ps2 theme). It has pbt keycaps and double shot abs alphas

lowkey the same colour though

[cyan lark]

Salt Lake on the 60v2

I'd be super down for a pbt version of dualshot 2

[uneven cradle]

If it was to happen it would likely be in MTNU profile

[cyan lark]

I'd be down, I need to shake it up. Too many cherries 'round these parts.

[uneven cradle]

There is this SA version of dualshot as well https://ilumkb.com/products/sa-dualshot-keycap-set

[cyan lark]

Eh, don't love those legends. Plus still ABS.

But the profile is neat.

[tulip rapids]

yeah the legends are horrible

DX

[tulip rapids]

Did you buy the alphas as well? Or just base set, novelties and extension?

[cyan lark]

If you find a decent set lmk goku

[tulip rapids]

for the playstation 2 theme?

or you want the gmk duals 2 in pbt? (ps1 themed)

[cyan lark]

duals 2 in pbt (with non-uggo legends :))

Or you know, don't because I don't really need more plastic lying around 😉

[glacial wind]

Mine had special Korean option so I have normal alphas and also Korean language alphas

[tulip rapids]

i see i see i dont have that option here

[amber dagger]

anyone using PBTfans Lyla? how are they?

[tulip rapids]

the alphas look the same as the base set with the same colour way but different coating

pbt (base set) vs double shot abs (alphas)

[cosmic egret]

anyone selling their tofu

[polar girder]

Yo I was also just looking at these

PBTfans seem generally pretty well recommended

Not sure how you could go wrong with some pbtfans black blanks

For $39 seems hard if not impossible to beat

Especially with stepped shine through caps lock

Omg I might need to buy

[ionic breach]

its good quality pbt blanks

so smooth to the touch instead of the normally textured ABS

id get it if thats what ur looking for

[polar girder]

Yo do you still have a Neo65? @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

yesssir, why wsp

[polar girder]

You see the Neo65 Sonic HE+?

[fluid ravine]

yeee

[polar girder]

There’s an 80$ module for the Neo65

[fluid ravine]

say wut

like i can put a he module in my neo is that what youre saying?

[polar girder]

Yeah

https://www.qwertykeys.com/collections/neo-product-collection/products/neo65-sonic-he-hall-effect-custom-keyboard

Look at the last 2 “Color” options

Both modules

[fluid ravine]

oh wha da fuqqqq

thats cool

oh i hate those keycaps though

[polar girder]

Looks like it even comes with switches and keycaps and stabs

[fluid ravine]

[polar girder]

lol yeah keycaps throw away fs

[fluid ravine]

and some goody tools

[polar girder]

Right

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[polar girder]

Switches

[fluid ravine]

same mount and everuthing

[polar girder]

Right

Pretty crazy

[fluid ravine]

honestly yeah

Making a HE pcb for a mx type kit is pretty cool

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s sweet

Neo stays killing it

QwertyKeys w/e lol

Gotta learn about MX. Gotta build my wife an Ergo

[fluid ravine]

qwerty do be cooking with this shi
i unno how to feel about the software and wtv but still pretty cool they're able to do this

[fluid ravine]

ooo

gottaaa

[polar girder]

Fair. Yeah I guess I haven’t used one yet myself

Yeah she likes it

Gotta get the Cherry wood wrist rest tho. Wait until that comes back in stock

But should I go plateless for quiet office build?

[fluid ravine]

aighttt

i mean plateless does have its own sound

just purely based off of switch and pcb and mount

if you're going for quiet office build maybe a pc plate or plateless should work

[ionic breach]

i will wait for the neo ergo cu until i die

[fluid ravine]

depending on what board it is to be in fact

[polar girder]

What’s the diff?

[fluid ravine]

copper

[ionic breach]

copper

[polar girder]

Ah dang

[fluid ravine]

let's say neo series but premium

[ionic breach]

ya, updated designs usually too

[polar girder]

Yeah I was gonna go silver ano with the copper weight

Silver matches her computer so she liked it lol

[fluid ravine]

back then i wanted a neo65cu nebula black with brass weight to match with my gmk black snails

[fluid ravine]

fireee

yea dude you gotta try out mx atleast once

it's nice to have

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