#🔧│keyboard_modding
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This is the v2 with the v3 cerakeys and the foam bottom
No lubes or anything done to stabs
Its not perfect but im happy with it
Yes
ok
what switches
tikkens?
damn
also ignore that stratchy sound when i was hitting backspace, i think my bracelet hit my mouse
my brain is lagging or sum.. why wont it get red? 
im pretty sure theyre basically the same thing, except the coating is different
they are fn with me or sum now its red lmao
click the key youre trying to turn red
didnt change anything at all now its red lmao
also makes a lot of sense that on both keyboards the Color code is the same but it shows different in the app 
legit i just plugged in the 80he... red... plugged the 60he back in.. then it got red aswell 
https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/track/2tRirWLdP9kx8RkI7F3ZFI?si=4d00dd456a9e4d99 instantly got that song in my head
lol wut? I lurk.
The last like interaction I think I had with you was when I bought your cf plate
Yeee
How’s it holding up?
Oh I sold my wooting v1 like a year ago
Bought? I gave it to you
Just recently got the v2
Nice. V2 looks great
Only way to enjoy it
I built a silent switch mechanical keyboard. I LOVE silent switches
btw how do you guys clean your plates
Lick it clean
take all the keycaps off and just brush it
thats cuz thats how it came in...
hes talkin abt the sep pc plate wooting sold for the 60 v1
obv the pc plate on the 80he sold well
Yeah youre not understanding my point..
Im saying if tons of people purchased the 80HE then obviously they had no issues with it being a PC plate so people like PC plates
Wooting tested internally many different plate materials and the feedback was that FR4 was the favorite out of those
just cuz alot of ppl bought the 80he doesnt mean pc plate is the most popular
Then why would Wooting put in a PC plate if they knew it wasnt the most popular?
this was testing it with the 60HEv2 - plates can also change how they sound/feel depending on many factors like mounting method, layout size, case material etc
Yeah of course. But don't you think there will be other plates available third party?
it's also quite subjective also
there will be plates eventually from third parties yeah
Wooting sells a lot of keyboards so as long as there is some demand I'm sure there will be places selling plates etc
Does it really make a difference where the plates are coming from a PC plate from Wooting versus reputable third party? @uneven cradle
In terms of quality?
they put in their 60he+ and 80he cuz it was better than the steel plates they were usin before
no
Yeah thats true steel is the worst imo
plates can feel pretty different depending on the quality
I've had some pretty poor quality PC plates that feel/sound very different from the higher quality ones
Where can I be on the lookout for eventual PC plates any suggestions?
it'd cost like $2000 but it'd be so fucking funny*
aliexpress usually
@uneven cradle Also do you think that Wooting would do a V2 PC plate swap?
probably not
They had no plate swaps for 80HE right
yeah just the 60HE but that was because earlier models had that steel plate
@uneven cradle One other question, where is Wooting focusing on going forward after V2 release?
I couldn't tell ya even if I knew
- they're on the road map to make more high quality keyboards
Would be nice if they did do some more catering towards mods for their boards nothing crazy but some little things here and there would be nice but if I had to guess I would think they are on track probably to do a full size Wooting board.
Seems like the next obvious step, no?
I'm sure a lot of Wooting staff would be happy if that was the case
it is a less popular layout compared to the 80HE and 60HE
Well if they arent going to work on a full-size board next then I'd be very curious to see what it is that they do focus on
Fr4 was actually much more popular with pros as hopper mentioned
in fact the feedback with pros on 80he is some don’t like the extra dampening feel vs 60he
I’m fairly sure regular buyers though would have bought 80he regardless of the plate provided, as it’s not that big a factor to average joes
this might be a weird question, but do you know of any cases that sound thockier than the wooting v2 case?
more dense cases will be slightly deeper sounding on average
so for example optimum is much more dense and heavy than the stock v2 case
although the sound difference isn't super major and honestly 'case maxxing' doesn't get that far vs. changing switches/plates/keycaps
also if you want holy60 case to sound more decent you need the bottom cover if you haven't yet added that
How come?
i have that, it makes the board sound muted
i prefer the foam it comes with tbh
Wait you’re not using foam and the plate?
Don’t tell me you’re just using bare plate
oh wait
im actually supposed to use both?
i tried that and the usb didnt really sit well infront of the hole for the case so i kinda assumed it was one or the other not both lol
Is that Holy60 case foam?
yes
i will say it does sound better with both
its just it doesnt sit that well in the case housing with both the plastic cover + foam
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Is it the official bottom plate?
For me my foam sits over the plate standoffs where it would sit anyway
But yeah you’re supposed to use both the bottom plate then the case foam over it
anyone know if using a apple usb-c -> usb-c cable for the Wooting 60HE v2 will cause loss in performance?
Performance isn't the right question, it either works completely or the cable can't handle it. If the latter, you'll experience very obvious symptoms like random buttons getting "pressed"
Perfect thanks, should work fine then 
In my personal experience they used to make some products that offered something unique for the price, but then they started doing those limited forge drops that were in some cases just a better version of their current products, but with limited availability and exploiting fomo
New non-fomo releases that didn't make much sense as far as price and quality went (meh software, dodgy qc), just about everyone started offering either more for less or better for the same $$, it's like the company just lost touch with what they need to do
No experience with the lube specifically, but now I wouldn't trust them to do anything right, especially when you have widely available and well established alternatives
just get 205g0 it's the gold standard and overkill for what we're using it for but it lasts forever
the wootility app isn't displaying the switch selector option now
You need beta Wootility
I do have it I think, I have the 5.2.2 version and the bg service installed as well. Opted for the beta updates too
No, you need 5.3.0 version and beta Wootility. https://beta.wootility.io
you can but if you were going to do that it would make more sense to buy the module version of the 60HEv2 since the plastic doesn't come out until around April next year
and the module is designed so that you have an option for alternative cases
damn I actually love the stock plate on 80he and stock sounds pretty good imo
Any ideas approximately how tall conductive foam needs to be to ground a module with friction fit? Want to try it instead of screwing in
yo im not deep into tech but i want to switch my wooting keycaps soon do you know if i change my wooting 60he v2 key caps would it like ruin the magnetic switches or anything?
Nope, you can just pull them off with a tool and replace anytime.
you can mod everything down to the PCB, but you can pretty much customize everything about your board to your liking
Hello,
I would like to share some feedback regarding my H60 V2. I have installed Akko Astrolink switches and I am completely satisfied with them.
They offer excellent stability, a very high-quality sound, and outstanding performance. I would highly recommend them.
I also have a quick question: do you know if any software updates are planned to add more switch options, particularly Akko Astrolink switches, as they do not currently appear to be available?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Hi. I might be missing something, but you are currently using them on the v2 no?
if you're referring to the switch selector, they probably will be added in a future update
Yes, absolutely. I am indeed currently using them on the V2.
so? like I said I might be missing something but as far as i know you dont have to change anything on software for them to work, no?
Raptor v2 is going to be added, which is a recolor of Akko Astrolink
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m referring to 🙂
No, nothing at all. They work perfectly without changing anything in the software.
With switch selector, third party switches will be more accurate
But it doesnt currently exist, right? I've never seen such thing on software
You have to use beta Wootility https://beta.wootility.io
ahhhhhh ok! thank you
Anyone know where I can source some WS Flux HE Ocean Whisper? I’ve heard really good things about the switch
Wuque recently released them, so they're not widely available.
Will cost a leg probably
are those fully clear or do they have a slight purple tint to them?
A bit purple
ah so they're not the flux rgb that people are selling
No, that's a different switch
after manually lubing the dcf and putting them in the v2 i've realised i was wrong and these mfs are crazy
sound much better and feel better than the stock tikkens
S tier switches
Yeah, they sound and feel better after hand lube
whats the sound profile of the switches?
much more stable
Deep clacky
rip
i like thock
it's a nice deep clack
Yeah, thock doesn't exist in HE
i was thinking about getting different switches, but idk
a good clack is as close as you' re gonna get to thock in an HE switch
DC Fluxes are one of the deepest sounding switches, but still clacky
how much deeper are they compared to tikkens?
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also why is that? the switch design?
Yes, magnet is hitting the bottom housing
idk if im tweaking or its cause its a different recording set up or what, but the tikkens sound deeper to me in the videos at least
i believe yall that the fluxes are deeper, i just dont think the sound recording is the best to go off of
Tikkens are more muted
do people still use black knights? they used to be a decent deep sounding option
also how is tmr going to work with current he boards? is tmr just the switch or the entire housing?
It won't work with the current boards, TMR is an entirely different sensor than HE.
the other way around, tmr boards work with existing magnetic switches
compared to the original they're pretty tame in loudness, but you can amplify it a bit more with CF/Copper plate, they're fun to build around
true, i like the somewhat muted deep clack with the fr4 plate, tikkens sound somewhat chattery in comparison imo but that could just be the strange topout sound the stock tikkens have
tikkens top stability is also rather loose in comparison which probably doesnt help the stock chatter anyway
tikkens feel good but the topout sound bothers me
now with lubed dcf, i just need to lube and assemble my yikb stabs and replace them then i have my "endgame" board until another upgrade comes out
yeah stock tikkens sound okay if a little chattery/hollow
I think that's because dry long spring
Okay got a geon leggera and tofu redux on the way so will be able to add those to case database for first batch of sound tests there
gt-60 perhaps if not already 
won't add gt60 for awhile, it's no where near as popular as the other cases still and still waiting on plates for full compatibility
first batch will be mainly the most popular options, then will add other cases slowly over time
it wont ruin the 0.0001 activation thing?
no. If you're worried then pick a switch that is tested as compatible on our switch database
but even a lot of the incompatible ones will soon be compatible once they're in the selector. Such as the gateron spark/jade ultra
fair enough, is it just the leggera and redux on the cards right now? bouncing between using the stock case and holy right now and deciding between buying a gt-60 or something like a black leggera
yes
yea thats how it sits with both the official bottom plate + the foam that came with the case
holy and also the wooting cases of course
so optimum, v2 alu, and alumaze
oh and v2 plastic i should have a unit that's good for sound testing soon i think
this week will be probably grounding tutorial + some sound tests if i have time probably. Just depends on whole christmas thing and how busy/not busy things get since everyone will start going on break
theres only 0.1 actuation currently with wooting, but no it doesnt unless you use some weird switch foam or silent switches
ye haha i was joking i thought it was 0.15 tho thats better if its 0.1
the rapid trigger can go to 0.1 now from a recent update
what games do u play with wooting
dangg
u on v2?
runescape
80HE
honestly going below 0.1 people have to start questioning if it's making them less accurate lol
😢
ive seen one brand that had accurate sensors for 0.01mm iirc
bbbbut smaller number = better jed
ours are accurate to super low levels too
accuracy does not equal allowing the setting to go that low, but we are very accurate
is rune scape actually fun bro its been out for like 24 yrs
when they say 0.01 or 0.02 they're literally just listing sensor specs, it has no bearing on actual differences
literally all HE keyboards are at least 0.02 these days because it's the default sensor lol
no like it would actually consistently register keys for 0.01mm presses, ill try and find the video
is it true that theres keyboard like the mad67he that has like 0.01 activation or is that just for marketing
this was like a month ago though so idk if ill be able to find it
yes but it's a lot of fake bs that gets disabled when you actually go use it in game and not in controlled test with a machine
i keep seeing people say it but i got a wooting because all the pros be on it
ahh
i see
because when you set it that low in game, the jitters too much and makes it unusable
so when they test stuff like 0.01 or 0.001, it's all fake bs that gets disabled when you actually game
yea i heard that was an issue, so that makes sense
it's just fake tests they do to make claims but then when you go to use it they introduce deadzone etc that makes it more like 0.05-0.1 lol
because the board has to have that space to filter what is a real press vs. just vibration
probably almost no one here. They're insanely old and only OG he guys might have them
they're from era before closed bottom was a thing
lekker v2 from long ago lol
They don't, those sound test videos aren't accurate
you probably listened to a bad sound test honestly
they sound like lekker v2 but more rattle due to dual stem
Damn haha
gateron oranges are chattery as fuck
Really? They sounded silent
yeah, and that's why most sound tests are nonsense
if i want to relube my stabs, do i have to take apart my pcb and whatnot
they are more quiet for sure, but so are lekker v2 lol
Hahah ok ok
they're open buttom switches, so all of them are more quiet
the lesson you've learnt today is that probably 9/10 soundtests online are recorded poorly or with wrong settings/gear and makes everything sound thocky
you can syringe lube them with the board together but youre better off taking it apart to lube everything properly imo
:(
i'm curious to see how long the cerakey legends end up lasting with my acid sweat
so toxic 🥀
the ps1994 extra set they printed using uv printing or whatever was not it
that lasted like 1 month
Wooting 60 HE + is compatible with + PC switch Plate + Friction fit Pad + 60 he V2 aluminum case?
All those combined into one at the same time are all compatible with each other anyone know?
i dont see why it wouldnt be
should work
👍
whats the obsession with pc plates
idk much about keyboard modding just saying
mainly cus i never do it
Hey guys!
I'm about to upgrade my 60he again by putting in gateron jades, but i believe the stabs need to be modded for that.
Can someone help me out which type of stab needed and where can i order in eu?
My bad it's already in the faq
But anyway if anyone knows a good place to order from i'd much appreciate that
If you're talking about long pole stabs, they might not even be necessary
Just a little something under the stab to fill the gap?
Guys
Can I take the case from this https://drunkdeer.com/products/x60-future-he-magnetic-switch-keyboard and use it for the v2 module
No, it has centered USB port
PC plates just have a different sound profile. Some people say they're better for trying to get a lower pitched "thocky" sounds. But peoples experiences vary of course
so what does fr4 do then
A cleaner sound
My DCFs from Powerpuff are coming tomorrow 
Worth it? We shall see!
Damn
I will not be lubing mine for now but I am excited after hearing so many people only saying good things about this switch
I haven’t lubed mine, they seem fine stock
but not too bothered to spend cash to get them now that i found my best
Best… for now
Oh that’s not a useful page 😆
Who knew the local optima page would be so fraught
I was considering dcf since I wanted to get new switches and a case for my original 60he, but they are the wrong color 🥀
the switches are the wrong color?

get opaque keycaps, easy 
meh
I went for tikkens instead, I think they'll still be a nice upgrade from v1 lekkers
I do have a gmk set on the way aswell but it won't match nearly as well with my case
you could also get the regular flux he switches which are full white/cream body instead of pink
theyre loud as hecc 
they dont seem that bad, taking sound tests with a grain of salt lmao
they also cost about 3x compared to the tikkens unless I'm looking in the wrong places
I'll consider them if I don't like the tikkens I guess, a more neutral white would work too but the green will fit better
it said something like that for me too when i got the tcc flip switches. "order will ship in 12 days" or such, but they sent it like 48h after i ordered.
yeah it was like 24h in my first order, this is just taking longer so im being impatient lmao
looks like my kbdfans order already shipped this morning, just ordered last night
should I have gotten a bottom cover for the holy60? at least it's available on maxgaming so I can just pick one up whenever and the shipping will still be quick
yeah it improves the sound by a decent margin imo
kbdfans is always good at processing and shipping orders out
think it's both more expensive and currently sold out there but I'll pick that up too then
sold out where
on kbdfans?
yeah
maxgaming has a few though
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still ends up significantly more expensive with shipping and vat added anyway
53 bucks for that piece of plastic
I'll buy it on maxgaming, just gonna see if my brother wants to get anything at the same time
Gn
any carbon filber cases
i wish
https://bowlkeyboards.com/pages/vella the Vella case is halfway there, not full CF and only for the venom60he pcb
holy shit it's been so long since i've seen this
halfway??!
dayum'
too bad this isnt gh60
what's this?
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shiii i kinda want a vella just cus now LMAO
fah
need nipple case forst
priorities
What
Ok I guess I see it
trigger warning (do not watch if you are a keyboard enthusiast)
FUCK
why did i watch it
sigh shouldve put spoilers

Ahh. Type writer
my uhh
12 year old razer keyboard
it has served me well
but oh my god DAMN the wooting is 1000x superior
as in half carbon fibre but it's probably less than that, my maths is fried. Bowl has a build stream of it, looks decent enough I think
Wow, that’s way faster then I could expect
btw
you can hear the PINGING SOUNDS
if u pay attention
idk where from though
oh i thought it was like halfway in production
haha mb
forged carbon 
still got my leggera forged carbon accent peice
piece*
it's my wacking stick now

forged carbon is so booty
To make sure, you can use a magnetic screwdriver to disassemble the module right? 
yes
magnets wont do anything permanent in general
anything just replug
Phew, thanks for the reassurance 
oh kdbfans sale again, could have saved $10 on that tofu i just picked up
that's annoying lol
Christmas sale, but if you order now, it will come week(s) after christmas 
gt-60 everything is out of stock
that seems weird, but he did get the board during the period where the beta firmware was being updated constantly for bugs, so could be he tested during the period where it wasn't fully stable yet
It does seem the case the 60he v2 was tested on older buggier beta firmer unfortunately, as he found out more switches got added to selector mid review lol
Is the 80he retested by him?
nope, it's old results still
I think he shouldn't test keyboards initially, with alpha or beta firmwares
Both board def seems like it deserves a retest
It's in beta for a reason
it's kind of unfortunate and something we bought up internally in that right when reviewers were getting the keyboard that was when we were constantly fixing the switch selector beta stuff. It was before when only internal members and some mods like shafie had access to the beta and it was quite buggy
that's roughly the time he got the board and was testing
He tested 80HE with an alpha firmware last year when there was LED bar bug and didn't retest it anymore
okay i confirmed internally, he's wrong about the mcu part
the 60he v2 mcu was 100% updated from 80he
Was wondering if anyone with 60HE v2 SPLIT or non split can answer but how are the stabilizers on the keys are they good? or should i re-lube them?
P.S this is also my first time customising my keyboard so any tips would be appreciated.
okay I checked with our team internally too, the plan is to properly allow lower deadzones once switch selector stuff is more final since we can lower it now but want it to be fully stable and not beta before doing so
so that's why he hasn't seen deadzone changes
stabilizer lubing has been improved but I still manually lubed mine to get them sounding/feeling better
plenty of good videos on how to lube stabilizers properly - I personally followed Alexotos's guide
Appreciated 🫡
An interesting thing to note is we also don't know if eyejokers testing rig is configured for variances in switch travel. So for example our firmware calibrates when it reads a 4mm switch is say 3.9mm, and it re-does the accuracy based on that - but if the testing rig eyejoker is using doesn't know that, then it can throw our accuracy off vs. his testing rig
So interesting thing internally that we’re not sure about is there’s a disconnect in how we test vs eyejoker it seems
Because our accuracy results on our own machine are much better at like 0.02 or so accuracy, but we don’t know why they seem to off in eyejokers testing
oh new ttc horse switches are on their site now
i did not leave enough budget for these this month though lmao, wasn't expecting them to release this early and at this price
pricey stabs too, 89 yuan for a 4 + 1 set
i rmb my designer studio set was around 35 yuan
did they say what difference is between ttc white and black horse?
guess i have to go dig into taobao listings to find that
just the color iirc
i guess you can get by with the rgb edition since the only diff to the OG sku is the sleeve around the stem
yeah i'll just get the regular one
20 yuan diff between them for 5pcs
i wonder how it sounds actually
marketing says like horse clops
since this isn't fully enclosed but it's whatever this random inserts they put into it are lol
and it's round stem now
actually looks like 2 horses from the top
embargo is up, there's vids on bilibili
sounds much more muted
kind of gateron spark like muteness, but hard to tell because i don't know how this recording is
it's a bit odd that they have barely any marketing specs and info on the horse on their page though
trying to find more detailed info specs but their english one didn't even list spring length
21mm
Is the stem wobble on KOMs noticeably lower?
vs what?
Vs tikkens
yeah kom pom are more stable overall, although sound and feel wise it's not as nice to most people - but that's decision you have to make yourself there
i'll ask ttc for a horse sample i guess. Then I can add it to switch selector a bit quicker
another clip
i hate that he holds the mic right next to the key lmao
okay I talked to TTC though and they think they can send me some, so should speed things up a bit hopefully then I can send them with the next batch of switches to switch selector crew
honestly ttc staff are such nice guys normally. They're always so open to talk and help out with stuff
@glacial wind hehe even more new tcc switches now, horse? (weird name, slang word for heroin?) :p anyhow did you ever write what you tought about the tcc flip? Mine will finnaly arrive tomorrow! :p
oh not yet. I was busy today getting the new update video live, but will record sound test tomorrow
cool ty! 🙂
i just seen the new video and any other he switches than lekker are not accurate in actuation?
they're still accurate, just that the selector allows it to be even more accurate for all switches that get added, even lekkers
Hey Guys!
Would you know if there are any switches that are lower in height (not only travel) that Lekker tilkken?
Would love to lower my keyboard a bit as I feel its quite high.
none yet
Damn
only travel, but the low profile stuff for actual profile isn't in HE yet
you could get lower profile keycaps though
Got it. Can you explain? How is that possible?
because no one has made one basically lol
new molds cost a ton of money and the demand for specific lower profile switches is low
or did you mean low profile keycaps?
they're just keycaps that are shorter in height
Will look like mushrooms
Hey
Do you know when the selector might come out? Because in the video was said coming soon but didn't gave any closer date
It's already available in beta Wootility
ohh thanks
yep, check the beta wootility channel for details
https://beta.wootility.io or you can also download beta app
I just installed the beta firmware. How easy is to rollback if I encounter major problems or if I want to change to stable again?
You can rollback from stable Wootility > Settings > Updates and hover over your device.
thank you!
Where do you post your sound test
hell yeah lets go gang
gonna wait for christmas to build it though 🥶
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Tray
The stabs look like an upgraded version of plumber tape mod
hello, i have a question. i just bought gateron jade pros and i was looking online about them and some people have said they had problems with the key getting stuck until pushed on the other side. and some said they didnt have any problems. some fixes in the comments were talking about the stabilizers. do i need to buy different stabilizers or anything else to make them fit. im using a wooting 60he btw
Oo TTC has new switches? Horse and Flip King? What's that about, lol. Anyone have reviews on them? 😄
Flip is basically kom pom but more muted sound and pre lubed
yeah, the Horse looks much different, interested in that!
Most of the time keycap wobble happens with cheap keycaps. Stock and high quality third-party keycaps usually don't have this problem with Jade Pros and other shorter travel switches.
If you still run into this issue, get Geon stem spacers and put them on the stabilizer stems. This effectively turns them into long pole stabilizers and eliminates the issue.
THANK YOU that might be why also the video the person posted on reddit had different keycaps than the stock ones on wooting so that might be why
Hmm, flip, sounds similar to a switch with the same kind of name. Hopefully this one flux out great
are the geon stem spacers the fastest? not sure if thats the right way to ask about it im new to modding my keyboards wanted to try something new cause ive seen alot about the gateron
What do you mean?
are they like the gateron jade switches
We don't have much info about the horse then eh? Not gonna yolo buy then I guess lol
ah we have those sound test vids, but no wobble test.
They will release stabs to
They only just came out for sale today
ok explains it ;0
They are thin shims of flexible plastic. They’re as fast as that sounds.
oh ya i see now so i just need to put those on the stabilizer and dont need to buy new ones?
Correct
are the geon raw l50 linear lubbed if i ordered them from wooting ?
Yes
Damn, $31 for 15 pieces. Fancy stuff.
Just woke up sorry need coffee
Mmm, flux price

60HE makes switch buying cheaper tho, which is cool.
Got some coffee now hit me with the math I can do addition subtraction the multiple one all kinds
will i need to put them on all the keys or just the ones where the stabilizers are
Just the stabs
are there any other stabs that i could buy that are better you know of or just wooting ones the best to have and just add those on to be safe
Wooting ones are good. If you really want 3rd party the swagkey knights are also good.
w thanks man
thats why you wait for sales, i got mine for 20% off and i had a $8 discount code redeemed lmao

does kbdfans have good returns or are they like g wolves taking $40+shipping off the top if you return something
idk why i covered the code i already fuckin redeemed it
iirc they dont pay for the return, and if you get a refund for the item the return shipping cost can be deducted from the refund
not worth to buy a second and return the first then
nah
the cost of shipping it insured isn't worth the 20% saving
plus the time it takes
don't care about the time but if I got 20% back I would've done it
when did your order actually arrive at your house
something like that yes
cheers hope u enjoy em
there's no official English name yet
low profile ?
i'm confused are you working for ttc now?
why did you reply to that message lol
yeah i was talking about ttc reps and you said thanks, which is why i was confused lol
I didnt say thanks? Just said hope u enjoy em
im curious on the new mold for sure
ahh
anyways I wonder what u will think about the new horse switches
definitely needs a good name
horse is a great name i bet my friend will enjoy that
It's going to be 馬 (amazing)
These sound ok. Which ones r they?
ttc🐴
ttc what?
no name yet
whats that word
i'm honestly more curious about the round stem
the sound packs r interesting too
I cant wait for my new keeb
sound is whatever, long as it's clean i'm happy, but ttc doesn't do round stem switches and their fault for me has always been that it's stable but you feel the stem without heavy lube
round stem might make me main ttc switches again
I want to try that tactile and 039
from what i've heard of the 035 or whatever it is it basically still feels like a kom type switch, just consistent force
Uma (horse, also amazing in Japanese)
Hmm I guess maybe not worth it.
Oh the 039 is just the mech 035
I'm Chinese not jap oop
They be givin switches hoese shoe now
isn't it more like umai than uma
ah I used simplified chinese
2 diff Chinese lowkey confusing at times
Hey guys, I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. I purchased a Wooting 60HE v2 module. I also purchased the TOFU 60 Redux case for the module. Aside from switches and keycaps… are there any other NECESSARY things I need to successfully install and use the keyboard? Thanks so much 🙂
Nope, that's all you need.
I have jade pros but I’m thinking of switching to owlab ti, raptor v2, or gravastar ufo switches. has anyone tried gravastar ufos?
yes, they're in our sound test database already
I’m thinking the purple switches would be good for my rgb and keycaps
oh cool
extremely stable, although very tight feeling - so it'll be either love or hate depending on how you feel about the friction feeling
I think I’d like stable switches. my jade pros are a bit wobbly
these are stable to the point you feel the grip on the switches the entire time
so just be aware of that
yes
it's 'smooth' in that there's no wobble, but you feel a vice like grip the entire time
so it's very hit or miss on how people will like the feeling
i wouldn't so not smooth, but it's just clearly extremely tight fit
I’ll probably just buy a few to start with then
what about owlab ti vs raptor v2s?
they're totally different switches
owlab ti he are what more would call a good all rounder
stable, but not super locked in stable, but smooth feeling and great sound
raptor v2 are another one where it's super stable but has some minor issues with spring crunching sounds that some people experience
ahem... Flux
oh I heard about flux switches too. how are those?
May want to specify Deep Clack Flux, not the originals
Yes, i have them since start of december, they are extremely stable, unique and clean sound, can recomnend.
Or thocky flux or whatever they get labeled as
Ahem…. Crunch
lol I heard a crunch when I tried removing pink outemu switches from my sayodevice
I couldn’t figure out how to remove them properly so I ended up breaking all three. oh well, I didn’t like those switches anyway
Violence was the correct choice then
Shouldve eaten the remains
If you don't have keycap wobble issue, then no, not needed.
@uncut basin Lunar in Wooting? No shot

swedish "post nord" manage to deliver the switches today...to my neighbors house... 🙂
Ahem... WS Flux Deep Crunch
i finished yesterday my first build for the module v2, owlab ti he lubbed and tofu redux (been loving the sound)
ufo sounds good the rest I wouldn't get ngl but the pricing diff
prefer duhuk herz over owlab ti, my owlab got worse over time but my duhuk have lasted despite prolonged use
flux ocean whisper is the only nice one in my eyes, the other flux are too loud and have some issues like pins breaking or being too stuck
I used it and it did help abit
it's nice
More switches in the switch selector when?
how’s the feel?
I don't have ufo but I heard good sound tests and heard good stuff from others
the sound tests I listened to seemed nice
but I didn't like owlab ti or raptor v2
I see
only issue is pricing and disassembly
that I've seen
yeah that’s certainly an odd way to take them apart lmao
yeah if u don't care about lubing or spring swapping then I think ure fine
since u won't be disassembling ofr any other reasons
currently I'm waiting for ugaming, unionwell, gateron and ttc new switches
gravastar ghosted me so I didn't get any ufo to test
I’m thinking I’d like the sound and definitely the rgb. I might lube them at some point but it also took me like 4 months to get around to lubing my jade pros
nice lol
jade pros weren't that nice to me I'm ngl, it's like kinda mid
the bottom out has a weird feeling, but apart from that the stability is decent and sounds okay
pricing could be better too
I just want 10 🥀
They dont need lubing, and they are already 30% cheaper, quite affordable and in line with the other new switches
I’ll probably start with 10 then get 75 afterward if I like them
whats the pricing
I didn’t notice a huge difference when I lubed my jade pros
jade pros don't need lubing but the newer switches r better
~100$ for 90
I can get 10 for like 11usd
I wish it was cheaper
zzzz
but the mold is expensive and the RND costs
and gravastar tax
so if its fine
I’m in the US. will there be any issues with shipping or import fees?
Sponsored by Me
not sure
earlier this year I got a glass pad and had to pay a $50 import fee they didn’t tell me about until the package already arrived in my state
eeee
Honestly it was wort even at 150, iam happy with them truly
50 import is mad
I just had to eat it bc if they’ll screw me on unmentioned import fees, they’ll probably screw me on the returns too
But new wave of switches also expected in the near future, i beleive that Flip KoM or what it was called that shadow bought is one of them.
I’ll probably have to wait until mid january before I can order new switches. how soon will the new wave of switches be?
Jabber would know more precisely, he shared the presentation pictures
I have flip kom
#🔧│keyboard_modding message here for example Duck
it's nice
get ws flux deep clacky off aliexpress 
an improved kom, if u like a more muted / softer thock sound, with lesser physical wobble than the original kom
they don't seal flux ocean whisper on its own unfortunately
but it's rly nice sounding
They seem interesting, just not sure if impressive enough that i will get a set. I think i rather wait for more newcomers.
Tcc honey king out
taishan gt pink is super duper deep thock if u like that sound
Tcc flip in 🙂
arent those just recolors? or is it actually a different type of flux
no it's not
diff flux

it actually sounds good
better than all the flux
cos diff materials
dunno if they changed the mold
abit
but it does sound good
That's subjective
yes I know, it's just my thoughts
Kinda want to try the Pink Lotuses though.
which brand?
but the deep clack flux sounds good as a spacebar
Wuque Studio 🙂
I like the sound of the ws deep flux, i hate how they feel way to heavy, the tcc ones honey king and these tcc flip are just about right for me, not to heavy 🙂
wait wot send link
I cant, i'm not on my PC
the sound does depend on build but i didnt like deep clack flux or honey king as much
the flip kom is nice tho
alright I'll try to find, thanks for letting me know
Its certainly on TaoBao and i have bookmark of it, but TB started requiring chinese ID so i cant even browse from phone.
oh these
pink lotus is just a pink ocean whisper I believe
Yeah middle
i just now installed the flux ones like 2mins ago, but i gotta say i really like how they feel and sound 🙂
the deep flux right
Thats it
i meant to write "flip" 🙂 but yes the deep flux sounded very nice, they were just to heavy for me, my 8 year old son loves them tho..i prefer ~40g
ah it's a recolour ocean whisper I believe but I'll double check
I see, I didn't like them as much for my builds but they are a nice switch
my favourite build now is with jade deltas and duhuk herz , and it sounds like a mechanical clack almost
I'm flying to Boston rn yay
i think you guys will like the new flux when it's out :)
I'm getting a full kit of flux ocean whisper to try out
I dont recall reading that it would be a simple recolor, but even then i never tried oceans, so still curious.
@deft jolt will there be a "lighter" version of it? 🙂
based off what I see and read , it seems to be a recolour
unlikely but it's just a softer? and better sounding one imo
“horse” switches is crazy 😭

I saw a vid and it sounds the same
do u want to give it a name? the theme is the horse since next year is year of the horse for Chinese like zodiac
I'm having a hard time naming the switch
i would be happy if they would rls a 35-40g deep flux, that would be sweet 🙂 is it like 50g or such now? the geon raw 40g messed me up and now i cant use anything that is heavier then that :p
u can spring swap if ure free
but flux stem size is big so u will have a hard time to find the right size
thats true, i might try and swap the geon springs for the deep flux and see how that plays out 🙂
ah ok
I have both the switch and geon springs, I cna compare the sizes when I'm home
if i rmb
Those springs aren't compatible
Flux uses 6.65mm springs
that would be cool if you wanna and have the time 🙂
Currently there are no compatible springs
ah oki
(in the global market)
China has some
since shafie said it's not compatible then ig not
I saw some like 24g bottom out springs or smth
kinda crazy
i just installed the "TTC Flip King of Magnetic Switch" just now, and so far im very happy with how they sound and feel. and i bet my son would hate me if i took his ws deep flux switches tho 🙂
hehe 24g, im not sure i dare to try that, then prolly 40g would feel to heavy after awhile :p
@deft jolt can you ping me with a sound comparison between the ocean and deep clacky when you get them? 
or is there a video with them side by side in the same keyboard
ohh ok that makes more sense
Guy i want my Keyboard to look like this but the case (Aluminium) is this color bright silver or am i missing something?
Cuz on the Website i cant find grey case
Never mind i found it
Just fyi, no affiliate codes allowed in here, so I deleted your message @deft jolt
In general affiliate code posting creates a bad atmosphere and you can't trust whether something was said for the affiliate commission or whether they're being truthful. So no affiliate codes are allowed either in chat or in names
turing is right, we will make an exception for if you have a code that increase the cost of the purchase to show you really believe in the product
one day mark will accomplish his dream
were there any announcements about new gravastar ufo switches?
ufo but louder 
oh btw we confirmed the wooting 60he v2 review by eyejoker was on the old 2.12 firmware. So that explains a lot of the results
also his chart for accuracy was wrong in editing and the values are actually better than shown
he said they plan to do a follow up video later once firmware is more ready for testing perhaps
He should also retest 80HE
it's a bit of a bummer it was all tested on 2.12 firmware, but i suppose he did get the keyboard early when the 2.13 beta wasn't even stable enough for public beta yet
that's why all the results are basically just wooting 60he results
is Aliexpress a good place to get some keyboard keycaps for wooting 80he
yeah
not all keycaps are great or high quality though, but aliexpress has everything from cheap and awful, to cheap and good, to expensive and good
it's basically just like amazon but much more selection
Sno do you know some shops that are good?:)
well it comes down to designs more so than anything else and price ranges
but a good place for cheap and good is FBB
FBB keycaps are crazy good value for what you get at the price
i got a few sets from there, all of them are good but even said "PBT" feels kinda off but hey they never worn out
what’s the best place to buy gravastar ufo switches in the US?
haha just move to Sweden, and you will be charged way more at once, as we tax the s**t out of everything here! 😉
I saw a vid online
will be waiting for new results thanks for letting us know
for now TTC for sure need name suggestions
TTC Umamusume HE magnetic switches
I dont think any other store has them other than direct from gravastar or overpriced aliexpress listings
yes and yes
no actual retailers
sadly
Guys is the kbd holy80 made in mind for the wooting?
Nvm it costs an arm and a leg combined
u could get a clone
Thats not a bad idea
LMAO aliexpress has 100 switches for like $250-300
Yessss $3 switches
yeah it's too much
im kinda new into modding, i want to get new stabilizers for the 80HE, which should I get? and I see some have 7u and others has 7u, which one does the 80he uses?
Knight v4 are good and 80he uses 6.25u
Nope, it just came out, doubt they have anything new or better cooking for now.
Anything between knight v2 to v4/typeplus yikb should be fine
not 7u'
6.25u is the spacebar length for wooting
Official store had them on discount recently, but TB price is similar, should be the same there.
It's about a dollar per switch excluding shipping and tax through their website
Still on sale
oh ok I might just order it now then
any idea how long the sale will last or should I just get them now?
have anyone tried AEBoards Raeds HE switches on 60he v2?
On official i have no clue, on TB they seem to have just lowered it without coupons or discounts involved.
I've used the Raeds on the OG 60he and they just didn't feel right for me. There's a weird mushiness that at times my movement felt like I was stuck, the Raeds didn't feel precise. They're good at silencing your keyboard but otherwise OK imo
Gn
taobao price is 438 yuan for 65
gn lander
yo yall would u guys say this is decent pc for the price?
Id ask here
beg
kbdfans has one iirc
ud have to ask for dimensions tho
96%?
i meant bet lol
nvm prolly wont fit
the athena has smaller borders than i thought
dont do it
ibuypower and cyberpower are the worst prebuilts in the market
Is that stock or modded btw?
what’s the actuation force on the gravastar ufos compared to jade pros?
HE switches dont have actuation force
40+-10gf

Specifications is all on their page 
oh right, wrong term
cool
should be close enough then. not sure why I wasn’t seeing that on the page
Specs and detail under buy option
yeah I see it now
Operation force 
for some reason I saw 40g at first then thought I read something that said 50g and got confused
idk where I saw the 50 from
Guys, I just get my 60HE, and I want to get Creamy sound on it, how can I do this, someone can help me pls?
You can't really get "creamy" and "thocky" sounds on he keyboards. There's stuff like tape mods and band-aid mods that will definitely get you closer to that sound, but there's no real creamy sound profile.
What about under my stabs 
Go with god you maniac.
no creamy sound
Whyyy
I would even be satisfied with a similar sound.
youy could go for the clacky ig
Its too loud in my opinion
It's going to sound weird, but I really liked the sound of my old Attack Shark
Probably the only thing I liked about him.
there's a lot of things you can do to change how loud the clack is dw
with switches, swap plates etc
In general, I liked the new Tikker switches, won't they fit my keyboard?
they will fit
Good
90% of switches will
just make sure you order enough
Thanks
Anyone know if this fits 60 HE V2? https://kbdfans.com/collections/plate/products/tofu60-redux-plate
Specs Material: PC/ Aluminum Black Compatible with Tofu redux case/461E case/Holy60 case Compatible with Redux 60 RGB ANSI PCB Compatible with both PCB mount stabilizers and plate mount stabilizers Disclaimer: This plate is NOT compatible with durock screw-in stabilizers and Typeplus x YIKB screw-in stabilizer
zoom
interesting way of making it support mid usb, mounting method looks very similar to tadpole
not the biggest fan of the aesthetic though
idk about those keycaps
I do know about those keycaps 🚮

Guys, is it true that the Type C port is removable in 60HE+?
So they are absolutely the same with OG 60He, except stabilizers
why would you want to remove the USB c port ?😭
I just heard that the port is removable so that it would be easier to change the case. Or something like that
Okay, thanks
if you buy the prebuilt it has plate mount stabilizers
and a steel plate
module has pc plate and screw in stabilizers
for your first modding experience I would look into case , switches , and plate
Plate for change the sound?
you have a steel plate since yours was prebuilt
all I suggested can change the sound of the keyboard that's why I told you find a preference you like
That’s why he is so noisy?
Oh, I appreciate that
I mean standard wooting doesn't sound too loud out of the box iirc
I want more quiet
You can search up mod videos on YouTube that use the wooting module and copy that
there's also wooting yt channel that talk about modding as well and also check in #🪛│modding_faq
talks about plate stiffness and switches
sno made it very easy
there's a link to a website that he recorded sound test of switches and etc
go out into the world my boy and find the creamy switches one piece

when will the fr4 white plate be available in the wooting store ?
Probably hasn't been brought up yet 😔
Fedex just gave me an early xmas gift
V2 split space bar
Will setup/mod after the holidays
v2 was the first white plate i had 
i ditched stock steel on 60he+
650-700 CNY for 90
540 yuan for 90
Giga cheap then, basically half the price i paid. No brainer switch at that stage.
that's definitely not cheap
No brainer switch for $80
it's cheaper but it's not cheap at all lol
Relative to where it was, thats a big diff, basically DCF price now
yeah but you gotta chill about this no brainer switch stuff
you have to put yourself in the shoes of the folks you're recommending it to, not yourself
just because you love the switch, doesn't mean they auto will nor that they're the demo for it
You could ask people to chill about DCF then aswell, same scenario just more people hopped on it. But no, i sincerely beleive its good switch, not just subjectively.
sno has there been any information about fr4 plate being sold separately in wooting store ?
good does not mean auto recommend to everyone as a do everything switch.
the friction feel alone makes them not a good switch for everyone
Flux is $20 cheaper and definitely a safer recommendation for most
See what i mean, subjective.
if flux had the same friction feel or other issues i wouldn't auto recommend it either because that's an issue as an all-rounder no brainer recommendation
Sorry you dont like it.
yeah but your line is very subjective
i like the ufo actually, but it doesn't mean i think everyone will
you have to draw a line where it's your preference vs. average person
put the average person into your shoes where they don't have a preference for stability over everything else
I never said everyone will, you came up with that.
Sure a sound based person will like something different.
yeah but you said no brainer and you've been auto recommending it to everyone
there's clearly a lot of people who will not be down with the friction feel
Beating around the bush now.
it's same way how i loved ttc poms when they came out, but i don't recommend them as a general switch because of the drawbacks
you can love something but you don't have to push every single person to it if it's not something that's easily loved by everyone
I have been recomnending it to people that wanted stability mostly, its a no brainer for that. Stop blowong it out of proportion pls, iam barely even here.
that's not true at all, but yes let's drop it
@humble surge did you lube yours?
It is true and you are worked up over nothing. Which is surprising to me. I'll leave ir with that.
end of the day i think people need to realise that it's cool to tell people what you like, whether it's flux, tikken or ufo, but it's always best to put yourself into shoes of folks when they ask for recommendations
this applies to randomly recommending flux dc just as much if someone asks for a budget switch for example
it's same reason why for example if someone is on a budget and they ask for switches i say just stick to tikkens first because they're dirt cheap in the bundle price
it's always good to try match what you recommend to what the person is looking for before blindly yelling at them to buy certain switches/mods
but youre not using what im using so therefore its bad
/s
i like lollipops
rawhukiesw on top

Rakken bebber

ttc confirmed they're setting up the shipment now, so horses should be on the way soon
ttc horses?
yeah
the hell is that
he liked titons more than the geon raws
info?

LMAO
new switch launched for sale yesterday
ttc's first round stem switch with some pieces they put inside the switch for sound changes
no clue how to find this
TTC Horse Magnetic Switch Switch Features: Initial force: 35gf Initial Magnetic Flux: 9010Gs(PCB 1.6mm) Final Magnetic Flux: 48030Gs(PCB 1.6mm) Pre Travel: Customized Total Travel: 3.50.2mm Lifetime: 100million times keystroke Type: Linear Long Spring: 21mm Soft Elastic Design Dust Proof Stem RGB Effect Plastic Bottom
is it this?
yeah
the bottom housing is interesante
yep, the random bits of plastic they added make me curious
gawd damn they're expensive

