#🔧│keyboard_modding
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Faded do you know the actuation force of the switches in your current keyboard, no matter if it is mechanical
Springs are different but they won't give you any performance benefits? You have adjustable actuation point and rapid trigger, lighter springs won't make you faster
As much as i care im giving u an option u want the very best
Go for the ones in
If not then get tikkens
Bruhh
Springs are one thing on weight u want physics
It’s just me being dumb, for some reason this morning I thought it was around $130 :)
That would be awesome, but i'm surprised you found stock at all. I can't for the life of me.
If u dont wanna get the owlTi 40g or geon raws
If u ask me these are the recommendations
If i were to pick
Id say get tikkens due to their balanced choice and weight
U want light get raw he 40g or
The other one
ok i understand that you can change that in the wootility, but it should still affect the base performance and resistance of key presses right? bc the software doesn't adjust the spring strength as far as im aware
Wtf? Since when did electro magnets lock comes into play?
This isnt the 41st century
That only happens in Terminator 3
Nor rocket scienxe
ikr
Science*
I’m not sure I’ll get it from this seller anytime soon. First of all, I’m waiting for a reply from the seller because I don’t understand the final configuration (LED PCB etc)
Fair enough
Deltakey was supposed to have some, but they don't even have it listed
Should have bought it a month ago, or whenever first batch was order-able on that chinese site
shafie) ...Springs are different but they won't give you any performance benefits? You have adjustable actuation point and rapid trigger, lighter springs won't make you faster me) ...ok i understand that you can change that in the wootility, but it should still affect the base performance and resistance of key presses right? bc the software doesn't adjust the spring strength as far as im aware
Indeed
Dis is some mad aura point
@sacred elm uhh supervisor we got some man on isle 5 needing to be lead to isle 9

so if you recommend owlTi 40g and geon raws thats two different switchs and they both apparently have the same performance ... so then it just dosnt matter which one i get right?
i have a question - due to the games i play, my 80he is really loud and the sound reverberates through the floor sometimes, rn i have a plastic case with gateron jade switches (i think lekker 60s would be better?)
what measures could i take to reduce the sound produced? im thinking of zinc alloy case + keyboard mat
im not sure how well foam goes with hall effect keyboards though, thats my main question here
Yes only weight
If ur a performance man lightweight is best weight
So it wont matter but if u want smooth
And not sticmy
Sticky*
OwlTi switches is the way to go
As a man with the least complicated mind and the most simplest of the simplest answer like some man chilling
OwlTi is the way to go
well i know that lighter switchs perform better, but that wasn't what i was asking... im actually so disappointed rn bc i was hoping to find some fellow keyboard modding enthusiast's that know what they are talking about, if i wanted to just get the switchs to save money or bc theres no difference in the performance of a switch (even though just having a different spring or anything can and will change/ alter the performance i would of just looked at the reviews XD... thanks anyways guys im going to go watch videos on switchs since i feel like i will get a better understanding from it then its just better without any supporting data or thats its better for my wallet 🤣
Metal case wont make your build more muted, id stick to plastic + stick with stock PC plate and get tikkens with torontokeyboardman foam kit which gives you poron 80HE gasket pad you can try and use their poron case foam (emphasises low end frequency and mutes higher end)
like this XD
perfect, tys!
m
How is it disappointing when ur main goal is for performance wallet isnt an issue and allat
Ive explained time and time again
Who am i to judge what u want and what u need my go to is a lot of switches
How important is stem wobble to you
Cant he also get a mat below the keeb to solve it too
He doesnt care bruh he wants the best
Thats all
i dont like wobble bc on my 60he+ i have broken some keys bc the wobble
pop a xanax and relax big dawg
Bruh dis man
Then owlTi switches
stfu
What is even happening here bruh
Idek
You're typing like you got a referral code about to be used and if it isnt used in 15 secs its going to expire
Are u trying to roast me?
it just expired
Or are u telling me to chill which i am
Unlucky
Hah
is 'pom' poron?
nvm
theres a POM plate but wont be more muted than PC
U cld do allat + put a mousepad or something below as well
If u want to dampen it further
so i really love the wooting 60he+ but rn im using a replacement key for the r,e,d,s,x, keys bc they broke off the peg while i was using them
Id go tikkens if you want an upgrade switch wise or look at the trad silent switches on the rec list if you just want no sound
i assume 'foam only' includes poron foam and gasket pad?
yeah i hadnt heard of tikkens until now, ill defo take a look at those they sound pretty good
should include all this + other random shit
perfectt
I wouldnt use the Switch Foam or film
Ok so on the switch's them selve are most of them like a universal size.. i.e. would it be possible to find a shorter switch like height wise?
oh yea 'could affect perfomance'
really depends on your preference, but long springs will have snappier rebound than short spring switches, but you'll have more spring options with short if you want to swap them
tysm again - i dont think i have anything else to ask
Ask how you can help Varedis
You wont find your perfect choice on your first go, but I'd recommend getting TTC POM/Deep Clack Flux/Raptor V2s if you want truly max stability (in the $0.50-$1 range), Tikkens if you want a fast and dirty switch with decent stability and owlab ti he if you want better stability than tikkens with lighter press
Varedis is now copper addicted. No help needed 
it really depends on budget on how much you wanan spend
Sounds like he is in dire need of help
You unhand my metallic FR4 plate at once
Gotta get him back on the rock addiction instead
before I smack you with my keyboard now that it is club certified
Time to cut it in half
Before u can use it as a weapon

we maxxed out strength for this day
Nah all good, trust me…
Silence the violence, increase the peace brother ✌️
Exactly
So therefore i was right
OwlTi switches
🔥 🔥
(Somewhat)
if you're on a budget sure
Preference, too.
Its still a great choice either way
Ok so basically I'm looking for a good speed/performance switch that would be good for fps like r6 or battle field 6 I don't care about the price or visuals Im trying to base it apon the specs/ responsiveness and opinions of people who care about that stuff.. so going by that my r,e,d,s,x and c keys have had to be replaced while I'm the middle of a game and I'm trying to see if changing the switch's will help... Like I know the basics of a switch is a activation devices with a spring a peg and the housing in neanderthal terms XD... What I'm trying to figure out is if there is a switch that is compatible with the wooting 60he+ that people would recommend which I have at least 5 different keys to look into and research but I was also wondering if there was a switch with a shorter peg so the keys would be shallower
@tropic urchin his going at this again
Hold up brother
Ive recommended the OwlTi he multiple times
🙏
Shafie and i said tikkens too btw
So uhh yeah
dont worry about speed, or all the switch mechanics just yet. Get either DCF for max stability (same stability as POM but better sound) on Aliexpress, Tikkens/Owlab if you dont wanna order off aliexpress. Ignore everything else
choose between those 3 and call it a day
I'm not going at anything again it just took time to type... You need to chill the f out bro I already wrote down your suggestions even though you didn't explain or expand on why on any of them
I understand that
Your preference will develop overtime
once you try things out and see what you gravitate towards
I pretty much know what I'm looking for and I'm asking people's opinions on what makes one better then the other so I can learn and further my understanding on this subject
I'm just going to look up the ones recommended so far and watch videos on how they are made/ perform
what are some good switches these days?
(i have jade pros, how do these hold up now?)
Yes.
when is this being added 🙏
because i would love to add my owlab tis to my order instead of going to another site
this has nothing to do with them working or not, just better calibration stuff
He's talking about the switch selector on Wootility. Not adding them to the store so you can order it
ohhh
😭
180 for 90? what the fuck
Wuque pricing
order from aliexpress
i did. i think i paid like 40 or 50 euro for mine i dont remember rn
Jesse is already a member of Flux church iirc
im loving them

arent the ppl that sell them on aliexpress also them tho?

idk how wuque is making a profit if the only people selling them are other companies
Margins
Ive become them slowly on the next bld
i ordered a 60he is there any mods anyone recommends doing out of the box or is just fine as is
heh i could never
alr bud
didnt you already sell your fluxes
i have another batch of 100 
i got a vv3p for funies 
LMAO
what you get for throwing them at your poor wall
alr bud
HEHEHEHEHEH
was at bestbuy with a friend so i might as well
my dad just went to best buy without me :(
shoulda went for the ulimate window shopping experience
cause i almost bought a monitor too

listen it was a pretty decent deal
340hz alieanware for <200
alr bud 
what res?
i think 1080
makes sense
but 1080p in the big 2025 
at least it was ips 
lol
Now get 30g PMM mod kit
me when right spacebar is higher than the left side 
and i am stil waiting on my Miku pad
warp bar?
there's solid version too
Thas good
Hai counter
ive already bent it back, it had a tiny warp before
i see
solved with split spacebar 
LMAO
real
but i dont mind
stabs too good idgaf
if it still sounds even and doesn't have the see saw affect then we cool
ive never felt the need to bend it back cause it didnt do weird shi on normal length knight v2 stabs
even with a less than 3.7mm travel switch
but on other keys like enter and right shift has issues
with it seasawing around if i press too hard
long time indeed
Time to check the wire


i over here just woke up 
its 3:30pm 😭
no more morning :(
i found out my dad left me at home to go to BF shopping
WITHOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
rude
i shall scour for food like a racoon
Go for it LMAO
astral goated
Well may u wake up earlier
agreed
Ok thats a banger ass setup
I’ve been telling him to get it forever 
Alr bud
hush lil bro
the astral church is rising!
Shut up yunc
all wires are straight (based off it not ticking)
Whats happening to it again
Ah so you unc’ed yourself voluntarily 
I got a better one
not having long pole stabilizers with switches less than 3.7mm
Time to get spacers
O then ur set
yeah for the most part its mainly not even an issue
its just semi noticible if theres a gap bigger than normal
LMAO
Yeah fairs
but if there is, ill just push down on the side and its fixed
@glacial wind hey i saw you were ordering the jade deltas and was wondering when it might arrive for a review
im one of those light spring idiots so its really hard to find something
using duhuk herz rn but the wobble is starting to really annoy me and atp i dont care too much about sound anymore i just want something light and very stable
by light i mean like the 27 initial 40 bottom raws
those felt great but it just wobbled way too much
my last resort is spring swapping which i dont mind if i can get something perfect
TTC POM or Raptor V2 might be up your alley for 45g long spring
i was looking at the raptor v2s
i think its almost as light as the herz?
i have this itch to go lower but none of the manufacturers offer that
If you don’t notice/have any issues with the potential spring crunch, raptor V2s would be pretty much the best overall stability switch atp
Probably a week or so. It’s already on the way from gateron
Jade Deltas aren't that light though? Initial force is 33, so bottom out will probably be 50
The original lekkers are killing me, there not bad or anything but I'm working on my own development of the wooting analog midi and the fact that there so light is making is making the features that I'm implementing so much more difficult 😭
but lighter than the lekkers is a lil crazy
seems like this guy is also a light spring idiot
if i were to spring swap 100 switches should i just do it on the deep clack flux

maybe the polar pro+?
As a 45g long spring enjoyer I’m just coping with 50g flux atm
triangle stems 
Top wobble would be pretty ass
tako you seem quite knowledgeable, what switch would be in your nightmares in terms of the hardest force analog switch you could possibly imagine.
bottom out force is similar to Flux I think
its a smart design
i was a light spring main and now ive upgraded to fluxes 
i dunno i tried gaming on my friend's board with oil kings and i wanted to die
and he said he wanted to go higher
above 60
lekker tikken heist switches (100g)
I want way higher than 60
aliexpress 20g spring pack
i dont want toooooo light but imo the 27/40 raw he was perfect for me
geon spring packs dont sell that spec for some reason
geon raw 40g demolished my feeling for other swtiches
icl
its been hard getting back up to normal spring weights
im more used to fluxes now tho thankfully
Gotta lift
Maybe Jade Ultra?
33 initial, 45g bottom out and it's compatible now with Wooting keyboards
They released switch selector, they work fine now
Also there will be Jade Ultra in the selector soon, so it will work great
Yeah, they released switch selector recently
I looked into what I need and the bottom out force needs to be anywhere from 85-100g for my use case 😭 🙏
insane
In most cases yes, that would be if it was for gaming/typing.
Hmm, maybe TTC KOM and enable spacer, set it to 0.3mm to reduce the total range
oh wait the ultras are 3.2mm
0.2mm* sorry
Top wobble is pretty bad so keep that in mind :D
oh right i havent bought anything gateron in a good while
their factory lube should be decent now?
Gateron factory lube is decent
Isn’t it the worst design possible. The sharper the corners, the more friction, at least in theory? Round would be optimal but the difference between round and octagonal probably isn’t that much.
top wobble B 

Beginner to this, wanting to get a gt80 case, do i need to get hotswap accessories? Im only ordering the module from wooting
oh man even the raw he is B+
Yeah, because of the split stem design top wobble is bad
saw this on twitter https://vxtwitter.com/aadihsoy_/status/1991961003815584043
wobble test
A - Gateron Jade Air
S - Gateron Jade Delta
D - Gateron Jade Ultra
F - Wuque Flux Deep Clacky
G - Unionwell Polar Pro+
that looks uhh
hotswap accessories?
i have the gt80
the only thing u need is the daughterboard
either from the pcr case or extra few bucks from kbdfans
Barebone Includes PCB x1 Silicone pad x1 Plate x1 Stabilizers x1 set Screw x1 set PCB Specs USB-C interface 1.6mm thickness Non-Flex cut Support Per-key RGB and RGB underglow Hot swappable PCB Compatible with the Holy80 Case and the GT-80 case Polling Rate: 8kHz Scan Rate: 18kHz Theoretical Latency: 0.125ms PCB Include
Yh ive preordered a case and included the daughter board, thanks for the info just wasnt sure if i needed to order the plate etc
you can get a different plate if you want
FR4 for example
oh nah unless u want to change the plate
Appreciate it, thanks
module itself has all the pads etc
is the wooting v2 split spacebar a standard size?
or do i need to buy wooting specific keycaps
as in all 3 keys adding upto the size of a normal spacebar?
What would I choose on Switch selector for ICE Ultras I got a few days till delivery
No, just wondering if there was a split spacebar standard in general ig so that I can buy keycaps for them
do most split spacebar designs use extra shift keys or something
Ohhhhhh, yeah no clue.
i feel like i remember seeing that somewhere
It's 2.25, 2.75 and 1.25 keys, so standard sizes for other keys at least
ah i see
I’ve seen a lot of sets with those included as extra sizes of the space bar
Others have space bar add on kits that def have them
Is there any word on the usb c port as well
I know the original 60he has it slightly offset
I have a tofu 60 redux case that I'd like to reuse
i just realized all these gateron switches are very recent
actual earthquake
its like jello
i think ill wait a little for jed's review on the deltas
theyre much more expensive too
Yeah, they're expensive
Jade Delta stability does look impressive
yeah its close enough
technically batch one is dec 7th 
Ah
but if its dec its batch 1
interesante
yall think i should get some more dcf for the v2 or see how the tikkens are first
Depends on what you want
this is for 70 dcf + a couple switch storage boxes 
damn
DCF has objectively better stability, with different sound/feel
I’d take that and run and try tikkens later
power puff switch store is one of the known legit ones right 
if not, ggboy is pretty similar
it’s a choice store, should be fine 
GGBOY is fine
All mine came in the same maroon container
Nice to see that the wooting 60HEV2 embargo has lifted since reviews have came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqujGULXUD4
At 9:50 is that a new RGB effect coming to wootility anyone know?
The Wooting 60HE V2 is here! And it's more than just a simple bump in the tech performance, going from 1000Hz to 8000Hz. The V2 is a wholesome improvement on a lot of things, which I believe is enough to make this an endgame keyboard for quite many gamers out there :)
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any yall fellas know where to find Outemu Peach Silent HE switches? tried finding out if they are mag compatible cause i was looking through a library someone made but I am fairly new to mag switches and cant figure out if theres a specific thing i need or not. I was able to find the switch but theres like 3 variants and not sure which one applies
Oh really?
yeah thats what i saw but when i tried finding the switches themselves i couldnt tell if they were mag or not
I can see the trail effect whenever he pressess a key but not sure about the noise RGB effect cause it doesnt necessarily look like that?
Peach silent HE's are pretty expensive iirc, cheap ones are MX
But idk I asked the dude in the comments so Ill see if he gets back to me hopefully @cyan lark
yeah i mean price isnt that much of an issue just looking for something extremely quiet
bro really said in that youtube video he prefers geon raws over tikkens..smh
gateron industry plant
Geon plant?
that optimus yap tuber
Someone advice on what stabilisers to get? I only bought the v2 module
Keep the stock ones
do i get stock ones with the module?
Yes
where do i buy cases for this keyboard im getting one for christmas and i want my wooting to look sick
im starting to think these outemu silent he switches do not exist
who wouldve thought that trying to find some obscure chinese switch would be so difficult
Here's some of the compatible cases. #🪛│modding_faq message
You'll most likely be going to websites like kbd fans and other reputable ones
I didn't think they made a he variant?
anyone perfect valorant preset?
thats what im starting to think now as well but it was listed as a compatible switch
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unless this guy knows something ion know
They are on AliExpress
u guys are magicians somehow google was not able to find them for me and when i quick searched on ali i didnt not find it preciate the help fellas
Google search engine is doodoo these days 
I am looking for the keykobo ohm semi translucent key caps to complete my build. hdoes anyone know where I can find them in other USA
where can i get a white keyboard strap
bc i have a full white wooting but it came with an ugly black one
the white alumaze shouldve came with a white one i think
well wooting doesnt sell the strap by itself
its best to look at other place for one
at least its not a black and yellow strap
imo its fine i dont remember whst it looks like but maybe you can flip the strap inside out?
idk if it looks worse or if you can even read it if you do that
Yeah you can inverse the strap and that's how you make it white
what vertical mount are you using? (for gpu)
I got trapped into the secret lab ecosystem 😭
Ohhh wait I thought u said monitor mount
I have a hyte y70
It’s inverted
flip it inside out
I was trying the make the text black and the background white
Yikb stabs better, but im just gonna use the stock stabs
do most HE switches use a standardized spring diameter these days? or atleast gateron with their jade lineup
i know ones like flux have wider springs and makes swapping hard
really?
heard knights were best for the woot
my build is similar
(usd)
60he v2 module
- 140
owlab case
- 400
owlab ti hes
- 40
pbt dyesub gmk wob cyr red hiragana clones
- 20
total: 600
Stabs dont rly matter they just gotta be lubed good
yes they do
ive build 10 keyboards
tried many different keycap profiles and keycaps, xht bdz and a million other lubes, balancing, holee mod, plumbers mod, etc
my stabs have never lasted over a week or two
The stock stabs are fine
well actually my mode sonnet has staebies in it right now
and they are good
not perfect but good
If your stabs have never lasted over a week ur doing something wrong
bro ive commissioned people to tune my stabs
Or your hypersensitive
i have really good hearing and can hear the slight ticking in every stab
Anyone bought the white 80he from the respawn store and received it? Im torn between ordering the 80he and the 60he v2 and was just curious what kind of damage you received from the one in the misfits section?
There have been a few posters who have bought it so far. Many of them are actually undamaged.
We just note that they can have the damage shown sometimes due to the coating on v1 sometimes chipping
it’s fairly minor rate of happening, but we can’t guarantee which units have or don’t have that minor chipping so we set expectations that if you order then you should be prepared if it does have a minor chip
Sounds good I was mainly worried with the line where it said the paint could blister? One more question for you if you don’t mind. Is there any spec difference and difference of case layers between the 60he v2 and the 80he? I saw optimums vid on the 60he v2 being friction fit and having the silicone block, poron foam, and the plate film? Does the 80he also have all those features as well as the same specs at the 60he v2?
60he v2 has a tougher coating vs the 80he black and raw zinc, although 80he white v2 coating is actually really tough too
we increased our minimum acceptable standard for coating durability with the v2 basically
80he does not come with the middle layer adjustments that the 60he v2 has, but it does have the foam bottom
Owlab case but knockoff gmk 😭
waa waa waah
let me be happy
besides
i wouldve just gotten pbt crosshair instead
I would distribute the spend differently but you do you
i wanted a premium good looking gasket mount case
i know theres that ag60 thing which is a pure copy but it's not as premium
gmk clones are also surprisingly high quality
Gt60 is also an option
i thought of it
i simply dislike it
doesnt look good imo
Thats exactly how i feel about the owlab lmao
i understand why
its a complex design
its complex and minimal at the same time
and i really love that
It looks overdesigned to me
i love overdesigned shit
Almost like those old roccat mice
not at all
for these
they're just doin stuff to do it
the design of the ow60 makes sense to me
this shit doesnt
any stab recommendations for wooting 60he v2 module??
Recommended pick: Swagkey Knight,
Typeplus x YIKB or Designer Studio PCB
Mount stabilizers
I should add to that image too that split spacebar people need to buy 2x kits or a full size kit to get enough stabs in the box
For all except type plus you’ll need to buy 2 kits
Or you leave one singular stab stock
Typeplus if you can find their larger sized kit then you only need one
But otherwise it’s 2x too
Does the module comes with stab?
yes
kbdfans my beloved
why arent the UR Ice ultra on the recommended switches?
Because I limit the image to 3 options for each category and that category has a whole bunch of very similar switches
they’re still great switches, just has a lot of overlap with the various other options
ah oke
just got a 90 pack for 23€ and use them since 2 days
they feel a lot better than the lekker v2
Lekker v2 is quite old generation vs the newer stuff
rudeus greyrat?
do they sound alround for ya or can i do some modding?
there's not much to mod besides hand lube if you want
switches are switches, it's just hand lube or not
most don't hand lube since the difference is minor and it's a lot of effort
hmm, what about the spacebar stabilizars?
well i did hear of some people sticking thin strips of like tape or rubber in the stem/top/bottom housing to make switches more silent but i also heard it makes them feel mushi
we do not recommend that at all as it makes the accuracy awful usually
and causes a lot of issues
yeah re-lube those if you're particular about stab sound. That's probably the standard mod that basically every enthusiast does for their keyboard
but that's only if you find any rattle issues with your stock stabs. If they're not making rattle then you're good
alright thanks, gonna seej
swapping switches was pretty easy, considering ive never done that before lol
its coming in a few days, can’t wait
Not those shit Roccat Mad Catz clones, the real thing:
I like the aesthetic too. 🙂
😂
Can you remove the aula piece

Careful you're sounding like Optimum
Once you buy his case you can’t go back 
Shafie is going to start playing overwatch once he gets his 60v2
I'm good
This mk60 case also looks hella nice, but gyah damn why’d they put so much logos on it 
we never going back to that magical time when everyone was playing and enjoying overwatch for that 6 month period
it was really interesting when it was happening lol
literally the ramp buggy from gta 😭
you can remove the badge too
btw
Yeah it was great fun
it was pretty crazy that I remember people who didn't even play fps games who played overwatch during that period
Anyways you still have like 3 of them
the raw one they showed looked pretty good, I just don’t like the front much.
in honor of the new V2 this is going to be everyone's 60/80HEs 
surely you don’t mean the Tab breaking part.. 👀
👀 what do play
ooo thats nice
idm the front honestly
same (dva)
Yeah but, ig i’ll go with frog mini leggera because it’s safer choice and I want to try pcbsnaps/o-ring
learning dva for this patch, i think i put out vod reviews in 2 subreddits
and got no reviews lol
it’s kinda an exaggerated lip of the 60HE lol
the mk60 is tray or top? I forgot
Is there a resource for the models for the two he case? I was deep cleaning last night and stripped 3 of the screw holes 😭😭 now I feel the need to replace the case since it's made from plastic and some of the USB hold down legs are also broken 🥲🥲
0 cases available for the Two HE afaik
She's very fun, just a drag when the op goes zar and ends the fun
my region perma bans zarya 
It seems like you can do tray, top and gasket mount
Can't even find a replacement plastic case, what a tragedy
contact wooting
damn
Yeah, you can try sending woot an email but if it’s already over warranty, then I wouldn’t expect much.
But gasket with the classic gh60 usb connection…?
Batch 1 orderer 🥲
I'll try emailing them.
Doesn’t really matter tbh. the usb port ticking that happens on the salv might be a thing tho (sry for no ping dear)
maybe you can try filling the stripped hole with hot glue?
Hello everyone, i was wondering if i could get some help on this question, so i have a fully modded wooting 80HE... works perfect... but, id like to try some different switches - because, after half a year, sounds need to be changed sometimes 😛 anyhow, i was wondering if the Everglide sticky rice switches are first of all, any good, second of all, if they work on the wooting 80HE
been using the geon raws since day 1 of getting it
another classic. describing this entire channel 😭
sticky rices are kinda old at this point
also 3 versions exist, two of which are just bad
the third one isn’t as bad but still
I’d go with something like Deep Fluxes
or regular Fluxes if you want something louder
everglide rice puddings were an option aswell, and HMX gamer fuels... i do like me some deeper marbly sounds...
new switches are my preferred, i just never knew the everglide switches so didnt know if they were new lol
Ah, you’re looking on Milktooth?
those fluxes u are talking about are from WS , right? and it was a vid from milktooth on Yt, yes
IEMs type shiii
Yeah.
Is it Smart to put the Optimum keycaps on a Corsair k65
prob deep clack fluxies for the marbly experience
Wouldn’t cover all keys.
think they're the top marbly contenders atm
Are Fluxies still expensive on Milktooth?
I think TorontoKeyboardman had them for less.
last i checked a few weeks back still the old normal flux
$1 a pop
also doesn't look liked they have DCF just Original Flavor
Milktooth doesn't sell DC Fluxes
are WS deep fluxes on amazon by any chanse? lol - i have to order this type of stuff in belgium
No
Oh, why are you looking on Milktooth then bro 😭
They are but the pricing is bad
i meant YT vid from them lol
Oh haha
are they fac lubed btw? cus if there is 1 thing i absolutely hate it is lubing... xD i love all the rest lol
Yes
And this is the sad thing. I look for ceap keycaps at Amazon with the same Color.
But I still Look for 2 weeks
🙂 the geon raws have served me well though, i still love them. just want something slightly deeper - i might aswell open up my keeb and try tinker with my foams or so a bit more, but i dont think i can make it much deeper in this GT-80 case
https://youtu.be/fwnYBWMQeqw?t=163&si=BikNEJzGgu5lNV5A why is bros mic so boomy
0:00 はじめに
0:23 素材構成とスペックについて
1:29 軸ブレと安定性について
1:55 ライティングについて
2:20 キーの単体押しの打鍵音テスト
2:43 タイピング音のテスト
4:06 個人的な評価
4:22 良い点と気になる点
4:38 おわりに
GATERON Jade Delta Dark
It will with Deep Fluxies, you can order them from one of these links: #🔧│keyboard_modding message
ahh, i also was looking at the owlab Ti switches
thx
Those are nice too but have a similar sound profile to Raw HEs, so you wouldn’t be changing the sound much.
ahhh ok
So tuff to decide between this particular one and frog leggera
Raw to Flux is bigger jump than Raw to Owlab Ti
No separation from the desk. Also the mic is like 3" from the board.
Like the worst kind of recording, doesn't give you a sense for how it sounds from where you're sitting at all.
isn’t the MK60 double the price of the leggings after shipping and tax?
Hmm let me see
also, you’d want a custom plate for the MK60
don’t need one but then you’d be stuck with tray
Yeah fuck ts
Need to try some Korean prime boards fr
The MK60 looks more unique and interesting than the legg but the legg looks cleaner imo (and is cheaper).
okay, so from the links for the aliexpress WS deep fluxes, which one should i pick for belgium deliveries, i pretty much never orderr from ali xD
Like pee leggings
Whichever is cheapest, should be around €55-60 for 90 iirc
Nvm it’s out of stock and expensive asf
Classic leggings
ah i see, they all deliver to belgium i spose then ...
This one pee
theyre all 35 gs though, i am so used to 50-55gs
bottom out is 50
35g is initial force
pee with pei (pee) plate would look interesting ngl
also, isn’t shipping the same cost as the case itself lmao
😭
ah k, thx 🙂 is there any difference in the ones at the links provided? or is it just pricing
still 💀
just the pricing
they’re all from individual sellers on ali
so they can choose the price themselves
ahhh, i see
my fiancee orders stuff from ali, i never did before lol... kbd fans was my most daring one ever ;p
ali has a better ordering experience than all the big stores in the netherlands, probably the same for belgium
the only thing is shipping, it’ll take a week or two
like i literally only ordered online stuff from very well known sites from belgium and holland before i started the keyboard hobby 2 years go XD
yeah same kinda
then i first learned amazon - only use the netherlands one cus the belgian one sux for me ;p
maxgaming xD
all switches and most keyboard stuff in general comes from china, so you can’t really get away without using ali unless you wanna overpay for stuff
yeah probably, i got my geon raws from kbd fans when i was ordering the case
and maxgaming is for my other pheripherals ;p just got my new mouse and pad - keebs are just a small portion of my pheripheral hob by ;p
pc hobby for that matter. ..
Yooooooo what's up guys?
my headset is also modded and i always, always use aftermarket skates on my mice
I never ordered there before.
they have some keyboard stuff but... pretty expensive XD
Btw, if you order, use a coupon like this for a big discount
Yeah, prob the reason why I didn’t buy anything from there lol
thanks for the help
ima send the powerpuff link to my girl so she can order it witrh her acc ;p hahaha
i do want me some nice purple combined with tealish green keycaps aswell....
if i can find it
what would give me a deeper marbly full sound, oem profiles or cherry profiles? aswell as double shot abs, or pbt?
Nobody wants creamy sound anymore 
i like creamy, but marbly is.... hmmmmm
haHAHA
mhmm, in alexotos switch showdown the fluxes are less marbly/thocky than the green dragon switches... could this be because its not the deep fluxes ? or because of how his keeb is modded? cus, i dont wanna go less deep then my geon raws ;p
His video was before deep flux was around in western market iirc
That video was a milk tooth sponsored video so it was basically just whatever switches milk tooth had at the time
Use the sound database we have in faq if you want an accurate comparison of raw vs deep flux, both are there
ahh, cool good to know
i love the help guys, for real
im pretty good at standard mechanical keebs but HEs are new to me since my 80HE i got for my bday half a uear ago
i want creamy thock

8th is release for those ttc kom fully enclosed switches
I should be able to include them in the upcoming switch selector options then if it ships quickly
where can one find that sound database?
No idea when gateron ones come though
just one thing on it, its all in a wooting 60 he ;p
anyhow, i am probably going for the flux deep clacks
marble
That’s the point. You don’t want sound tests to change setup
Sound tests are all about consistency of keeping the setup exactly the same, otherwise they’re worthless
i know, which is logical 😉
but for my own keeb itll sound completely different is what i am trying to say
Yeah but there’s zero ways for it to ever 100% match your board
the problem with trying to match every board is changing any 1 thing will completely change things again for your sound
even if they have the same board as yours but different keycaps the tone can change
true, i do understand that
the best way to think of soundtest in the end is how does the tone change between 2 switches using 1 switch which you own already
Yo @humble surge I just changed the switches check them out. The first ones are the L45’s and the bottom ones are the C1’s
I think I'm in love
then you can estimate what that sound change will be like for your own keyboard since you can see "oh switch 1 is deeper here than switch 2, which I own" so you can roughly guess that switch 1 will be deeper for you in your setup too. it's not a perfect science but it's basically closest you can get to useful information
ah, in that regard- well im learning from pros, so trust the process ;D
the wuque flux deep clack does sound a bit deeper and fuller than the geon raws i believe
yep that would be correct
well in the sound test its the raptors so thats not a comparison to be made for me, but iive looked up geon raws on YT for the same keeb XD
we have geon raws there too
scroll down the database and click load more, or use the search box in corner of database and type 'raw'
unfortunately notion doesn't let me load the entire table at once because there's too many switches, which is why geon raw is behind the 'load more' section
ah k, thanks
😄
the gateron moonlights also give off a nice sound imo, just a bit more silent
yeah, itll be the WS deep fluxies
There are many switches with deep clacky sound profile, but most of them don't have stability as good as DC Flux
the fact that the whole box is still cheaper than old fluxies is telling 😂😂
God damn
Doesn’t even have waifus on the box
That's exactly what it is, I've seen people getting excited about it
with all those split stem switches, I think it’ll be possible to make an interesting frankenswitch
What's a split stem?
All these type of switches that have been getting popular recently
Where the stem and stem pole are split, to prevent wobble from affecting the magnet position.
And what's so amazing about the PA12?
It looks modular which is cool, but how does it prevent the magnet from wobbling when the stem does?
Like the purple bit there w/ the magnet inside must be attached to the stem right?
Just a “new” material, I haven’t tried a switch with PA12 yet I think.
Can’t find the gif sadly.
So that shelf over the magnet holder must sit on top of the spring. That is neat.
Though slightly more of a PITA for disassembly/reassembly 😢
Yeah, so the pole (blue part) is guided by the pole guide (bottom housing - beige) and split from the stem (pink).
When the stem wobbles, the blue part doesn’t wobble with it.
Yeah 😂
noob
ty dear
shafie clears
you're welcome dear
ok friend
Still doesn't help w/ the feeling of wobbly switches, which is the biggest issue for me, but still a neat improvement
just aliexpress seller hospitality 🥰
that’s true, they’ll still wobble
more so even
that makes the top wobble horrendous
😧 one step forward, two back
I love the C1 sounds, much better than the 45s tbh
hey, some people prefer a bit of wobble
Wigglemaxxers
and it makes the wobble essentially preference, which is pretty nice
I can't imagine finding stem wobble desirable, unlike say flexing/give on the pcb/mount
but to each their own
I’d imagine it like a manual car, many people like a bit of stick wiggle. for a good reason of course, but still
Really bringing me back to my beautiful manual Jetta ❤️
Fair enough, who am I to yuck their yum?
I think I’m in love with them
But I have to wait for the other switches aswell
I would be, if i wasn't a cheapass i would have ordered them already. Funnily enough i was gonna do that, along with UR Ice ultras and DCFs
its these, 100% correct ?
I still don't know where to get th UR Ice ultras
But the thing is if I get them now I'm gonna have to wait longer
And then I'm never gonna build it
Which seller is that, or can you send the link?
Everything on Ali honestly
its powerpuff
aliexpress
from the links here on disc
Ohh weird, i don't have that deep of a discount on Powerpuff
Well not sure if I'm gonna order them now
Cause aliexpress Is gonna take a long time to ship them
They won't take longer than any other place, it's holiday shopping season afterall
Some of my Ali orders in normal circumstances were less than a week
ill change my country, its not showing correctr haha
Still waiting on the fluxes
How long it's been?
Maybe a week and a half?
Thats nothing for how congested shipping companies are right now
now its correct. price changed because of it so thats why its different i spose ;D
I have a package thats 18 days MIA
Still cheaper, not bad at all!
What?
yeah i guess i cant complain on that ;D
Didn't you contact them or something?
I asked out of curiosity yes, but not much can be done, too many people shopping all over the world from November 1st to Christmas, so everything takes longer
Okay
Doubling or tripleing in delivery times is not unusual at all in these times
I already have 5 switches to select from so I think I'm good
But definitely HM for the Ice Ultras
I might still get them and C1s in december, not sure
i guess depends on my other order
Could use a lil more crunch in our lives
I just don't feel like spending much more right now, afterall i'm trying to save up for next year on my next project, so spending on toys that i would only try, but not necessarily use daily isn't too optimal.
Even though i love to try and test things.
what are the best switches that have 20cN start force
This is the list
Those are a random list of switches he’s trying
ah
Yeah
i kinda wanna try other switches too
but thats stepping out of my comfort zone
i like lekkers
They were recommendations by everyone
Ive tried raptors lekkers and so on
what do you think
If anything its rlly about reliability
Lekkers are somewhat ass on v1 v2 does it justice but it isnt worth getting it in the first place esp building
oh
Raptors are great but when u start resting on it, it shoots up
ive been on lekker v1s this entire time
Hence why tikkens are
The replacement of v2
And due to the price
Raptors are cheaper than lekkers for me and tikkens
Owls too
which ones are the best in ur opinion tho
Raptor crunch 🤤
https://kbdfans.com/collections/magnetic-switches/products/ags-radiant-he-magnetic-switches
Anyone got these switches
like in terms of sound, reliability, etc

i guess sound is personal preference
idk
If u ask me the top 10s for me wld be
Ws studio(def need to try)
Geon raptors
Owls
Jades pro
Raws
Lekkerv2
V1
oh
^sorry 7
No it depends on what u want
uh
what is clone of jade
is geon raptors v2 on the list or the original raptors
no
Or is it diff cuz of mats?
lol
this has opened my eyes
completely different switch design, nothing like jade
🥹
Think both are, but v2 is probably whats shown on the recommended page
O lol mb mb lemmee correct it
Iirc i haven’t checked in a while
geon raptors arent reliable in the sense that they can develop spring crunch or ship with that issue
CRUNCH 🤤
yeah i think it's great, similar to mine
That crunch isnt happening maybe a year or 2
Depends on how the vendors store it
If anything if u feel anything off and like u want to change etc do it but know that its still human skills at work
At the end
Same with mices and allat esp if its the in the same price range
yeah
(Minus glass because that shit is spec out somehow funnily and skates)
i already ordered a new mouse to try out
uh i already have a glass mousepad
you can have spring crunch when you receive it
@paper bison got 5/100 that crunched out of the box

Crazy bruh i bought pack of 90s i didnt get it
LOL
I noticed crunch in an hour
Damn
I live my life dangerous on the switches crunch 
Cant wait to build it on my v2 tho with the ws deep clacks
It should appear immediately right? It’s a design flaw where the travel overtakes the max compression of the spring
So for now C1's take the 3rd place
Mine is mainly weight difference since i train my grip and allat + wootility newest update has forced me to adapt to 3.4mm instead of eletrical universal
Or whatever placebo crap in my head
How so, if they are the only you tried so far?
its rng
@sacred elm is it confirmed the switch select will hv a deep clack selector via wootility?
I remember sno saying this
Not immediately. For me they developed a very bad crunch after playing rhythm games
#roadToSSRNikke
my list (that ive used in order) goes like this:
- WS Fluxes Deep Clacky
- MMD C1
- Tikkens
- Geon Raws
- Lekkers
Yeah, not sure when it's happening though
Watch it be dec
Ngl tho when u did ur type test for the WS i saw little to no wobble
Unless u deliberately brush the caps to type
i fully bottom out when i type
Cld be drivers of ur speakers and allat run diff
And the reconfirm
Then*
I just really liked them so for now I will put them in 3rd place cause I don't know if there will be better ones or not
i was watching with airpods
I dont lol

Then ig shittt
Fair enough :)
Then go for it
already ordered them a few days ago

