🔧│keyboard_modding

[uneven cradle]

I might be getting my keyboard I purchased in June last year

[tropic urchin]

They are technically the best combined stability on the market

[prime orbit]

Gotcha gotcha

[tropic urchin]

S/S for top and bottom wobble

If you don’t notice any issues then you run that shit to the bank

[prime orbit]

To the bank?

😭

[tropic urchin]

To the Federal Reserve type shiii

[prime orbit]

What are the chances I have issues with them 😭

[tropic urchin]

I’d say 50/50

[prime orbit]

[tropic urchin]

To my knowledge in here only me, Shafie, joshiba, aligner, and maybe 1 other person had issues

And Sno, Rohan, arc (using astrolinks but same switch recolor) haven’t and others who’ve bought

[prime orbit]

I can’t wait to have to buy them 3 times

[tropic urchin]

My issue was just that on my WASD keys every 2-3 days I’d get a semi crunchy feel where I could feel my spring get super wobbly and develop scoliosis when bottoming out

It wasn’t a permanent thing but it would crop up every now and again for W and S mainly

[prime orbit]

Feel like they would fix it no?

[tropic urchin]

Bottom housing issue

They’re borderline too tight

[untold wigeon]

what are some heavy switches i could try ? theres a few modifier keys i keep accidentally pressing even when setting the actuation to lowest lmao

[trail bane]

Gn

[slow dome]

Ejjo, where can I get a nice desk mat that doesn't have some crazy graphic on there, but is like suitable for offices, without beeing super basic

[rough hedge]

Gateron emerald is a tactile HE. You can set the actuation below the bump

[vital crown]

and if the price range is 50-60 bucks till around 90-100?

[untold wigeon]

oh that sounds perfect actually

do yk where to buy them in the us?

[sacred elm]

deep clacky Flux

[rough hedge]

I use it for my esc, enter, and mode

[vital crown]

whats the price of em?

[rough hedge]

Aliexpress, milktooth, divinkeys

[sacred elm]

Check prices on AliExpress, not sure how much are they now #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[vital crown]

am i blind or can i not see them in the list

[sacred elm]

What do you mean? those are all deep clacky Flux listings on Ali

[vital crown]

oh im clueless then xd

i apologize

[humble surge]

Wuque Studio Flux (Deep Clacky) HE Switch //DCF//

• MMD Ainy https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009888870031.html -> 76.30 USD | 69.77 EUR
• XIYOU https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010032115598.html -> 79.51 USD | 71.91 EUR
• MMD Global https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009888542582.html -> 120.19 USD | 109.34 EUR
• GGBOY https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010028066727.html -> 78.26 USD | 71.18 EUR
• Cherry https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010215900173.html -> 68.95 USD | 62.72 EUR
• Powerpuff https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010195147759.html -> 69.24 USD | 63.05 EUR
  Prices shown are factoring 90 pieces of switches (except for Cherry store, which only offers 87)
  Last updated 2025.11.21.

[vital crown]

i watched reviews on all of them, and im going with these

(going for 60 cause i have a 60he)

[calm pulsar]

60he has 61-62 keys, depending on your layout and you might want some extras too just to be safe

[vital crown]

ill most likely be putting them on my right control key and FN key.

[humble surge]

Scales the same for 70 pieces, Powerpuff being the cheapest

[vital crown]

lemme count the keys

61

if i counted right

[humble surge]

also its best to pay in usd, eur is higher cost when you compare on exchange, just fyi

[vital crown]

that doesnt make sense lowkey.

[humble surge]

no, but you can confirm it

just swap between them on the same amount of switches, then check usd to eur rate online

[vital crown]

ill do that tomorrow

[cyan lark]

Salvation sounds so different. Thought I'd try popping DCFs in for WASD, the rest are KoM POM.

[calm pulsar]

didnt even clarify if these are Wooting x TTC King of Magnetic Polyoxymethylene or standard TTC King of Magnetic Polyoxymethylene

[tulip rapids]

atp we should just pin the comment with the AliExpress links

[rough hedge]

bold of you to assume people check pins or read faqs

[cyan lark]

Original flavor, your honor.

[tulip rapids]

true

[queen otter]

POM = PolyOxyMethylene?

[distant raven]

yes

aka "polyacetal" it's one of many useful thermoplastics

if you've ever heard of "Delrin" that's also a POM

[flat cobalt]

I made up my mind too late

Raffle is close

[robust siren]

smh

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-birthday-gif-19171862

[glacial wind]

okay got my v2 module today, i can see why they wanted to show the unboxing

it's quite cool

[fluid ravine]

selling 100 fluxes again @tropic urchin

heheheeh

how much do Fluxes go for rn

idk what price to put so i just said $75 for 100ct

[thorn zealot]

Free is my fav price

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

alr bud

[jade narwhal]

yours looks like outemu pink. Sayo has changed its default switch to outemu pink this year. I remember that yiqian switch was the default switch in 2023-2024.

[glacial wind]

sir i noticed you keep posting setup pics in wootstations but you do not own a 60he v2, please fix this

it's time to join the split team

[fluid ravine]

sir i have still yet need to acquire an sony lens
pls pardon the abscence of my 60he v2

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

please write a 200 word apology here for not owning a 60he v2 and sony lens, and we will give leniency for 1 month

[fluid ravine]

will do sire

[chilly mural]

Do 70,

[fluid ravine]

k

[little glen]

Sony lens x wooting when

[glacial wind]

i'm still waiting for fbb to make a camera keycap set please

[storm pawn]

ohhhh alrightttt well thr switches are pink so it makes sense, what color does the yiqian have?

[twilit adder]

what switches yall running, i want to switch off these clacky lekers

[little glen]

lekker tikken is what i am running rn

deep clack flux are the go to recommendation outside of that atm

[jade narwhal]

maybe red. not sure.

[jade narwhal]

this is a photo i screenshot in a video published in 2023.

[storm pawn]

wow nice

Is there still any way i can get a sayodevice with that switch because i lowkey think it sounds better than the pink switches i have

I don't like it tbh :(

[glacial wind]

there's a lot of good switches you can get btw that are way better than those in the video

you don't have to use those specifically - there's many nice options nowadays

[chilly mural]

yesh

[jade narwhal]

a lot of good switches are here nowadays. there is no need to go back.

[silent bison]

how similar is raeds he to actual topre?

im trying to expierence topre without getting a full on keyboard for it and im deciding if raeds he switches is a good choice of not

[storm pawn]

I'm thinking of getting the Raptor HE switches or the gateron jades, thanks alot

[sacred elm]

Both of them are ancient switches, consider getting something else.

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[neon nexus]

I wouldn't get the Raptors

this is the crunch

[storm pawn]

after careful consideration, im getting the lekker tikkens

i js hope it will be compatible w the sayodevice

[paper bloom]

It shld idt its even an issue

[thorn yew]

Yoooooo what's up guys

[paper bloom]

But thats just me i dont own a sayo device

and suh

[tawdry tree]

You bought 70 Tikkens for your Sayo? 🤨

[tawdry tree]

Sayo’s calibration is pretty good, so it should be fine. Other switches with the same magnetic strength also work.

[tropic urchin]

Why tf do you have more

Stop buying switches and get a big boy DAC lil bro

[chilly mural]

ayy 60he on sale!!!

[austere creek]

no its a permanent price reduction

[storm pawn]

is there anyway i could buy way less than that 😭😭

[austere creek]

its not on sale

[storm pawn]

I do not need 70

[buoyant nymph]

why would anyone buy 60he when the v2 is alraedy out for sale

[tawdry tree]

They don’t sell smaller packs. 😭

[chilly mural]

sorry, ayy 60he is now cheaper!!!

[austere creek]

it was brought up internally to bring the 20packs for the tikkens

idk if it got anywhere

but we did advocate for you guys

[storm pawn]

i need 10 maximum

[tawdry tree]

Why 20 even?

[austere creek]

so you can buy 70 for 60%, 90 for TKL and 90+20 for fullsize

basically

[tawdry tree]

2x10 works the same way

[austere creek]

yes and no

[tawdry tree]

What’s someone with an UwU gonna do with 17 extras?

[austere creek]

2x10 would cost more than 1x20 due to extra packaging and pick and pack costs at the warehouse

[polar girder]

Nice price drop

V2 module tempting

[austere creek]

im not sure how popular the 12pack was we had for the old lekkers but 20 is apparently a better size

but again idk where it went as im on leave

[tawdry tree]

L warehouse

[austere creek]

so could have had lots of changes internally that i just am not informed on

you mean L paying people wages

[tawdry tree]

Hopefully soon, it’d be nice.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-gif-26248020

[austere creek]

robots would indeed be a way to get rid of pick and pack costs

and a human workplace

2birds with 1 stone

[tawdry tree]

exactly 🦾🦾🦾

[austere creek]

i love the way you think fellow clanker lover

[chilly mural]

soon guys, AI going to make human worker obsolete

[tawdry tree]

We either embrace and love clackers or we live miserable lives, clackers are gonna be here either way.

Surely we won’t live miserable lives while loving clackers, surely?

[austere creek]

i just got informed we will have 20packs available in the future

[tawdry tree]

W Woot

[chilly mural]

yay

[tawdry tree]

I don’t trust your Soon™ though

is it gonna be before or after gta6?

[austere creek]

while gta6

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[chilly mural]

I mean, it could be 5 years in the future if R* decided to delay again

[neon nexus]

I hope there will be more cable colors at some point

[tawdry tree]

They wouldn’t delay again

[regal sedge]

how accurate is this list

i got the RAW HE’s with my board cause a lot of ppl said they were fire but idk 🤷

[glacial wind]

Quite accurate I believe. unless you also have 5 shelves that look like this

[chilly mural]

too many

[regal sedge]

quite nice

[reef sleet]

Any way to mod my 60HE V1 to be 8k polling? Lol

[glacial wind]

very easy. remove the v1 module, then insert v2 module into the case

one of the easiest mods we offer

[cyan lark]

Only one bucket, amateur hour

[regal sedge]

you look like you ready to toss them out

can i have them

[glacial wind]

that's an unfortunate amount of open bottom switches

i hide those at the back of one of the shelves

[regal sedge]

what you got in there, show me around 🤣

[chilly mural]

only cost $180

[reef sleet]

Oh hell naw lol

[chilly mural]

You'll be spending the exact same trying to make v1 into 8khz lmao

[regal sedge]

what’s ur top 3 jed

[reef sleet]

Worth it for competitive Fortnite?

[cyan lark]

If people in need of switches were my neighbor I'd certainly give some out

[reef sleet]

I found the Flux switches already to be a huge improvement

[reef sleet]

Give ‘em to the homeless

[chilly mural]

same, got some raw, lekker v2, and owlab

[reef sleet]

Make a Tik Tok channel out of it

[cyan lark]

I'm not, in fact, a psychopath

[reef sleet]

“I built my favourite alley way bum a insert keyboard”

[regal sedge]

you like raws or owls more?

[chilly mural]

owlab

it feels better

[cyan lark]

Owls definitely better than raw

[regal sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zatfall-gif-15783593408329133280

[cyan lark]

if not just for the bit of sticking at the top

[chilly mural]

My current top is deep clack flux

[regal sedge]

i should’ve just gone with jades

[regal sedge]

aliexpress yes?

[chilly mural]

yesh

but you could also go with tikken

[cyan lark]

I'm between DCF and KoM POM for top spot

[tawdry tree]

The stranded switches 😭

[tropic urchin]

DCF are the new turbo stability jades

[reef sleet]

Mine came within a week, was surprised

[cyan lark]

Hm, I wonder what those are 👀

[tawdry tree]

Jade and Lekker V1?

[regal sedge]

?

owls just a better raws right

[cyan lark]

yes

[cyan lark]

Ah they were my fidget switches

[glacial wind]

probably between the flux, ur ice ultra or gateron sparks, but i just like interesting sound more than other things right now since i use a lot of switches

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V1 as a fidget switch 💀

[cyan lark]

Well, that and using them to listen to the sound differences

[stoic ocean]

Why are they hairy?👀

[cyan lark]

Listen, if we don't acknowledge our past how will we learn?

[tawdry tree]

True true

[cyan lark]

You should see me

But real answer is I have pets

everything to some degree has grown hair

Actually those hairs may be cloud pubes

i.e. poly fil

you can see a big tuft of it right next to them in the bin

[regal sedge]

what’s the flux official site?

[cyan lark]

They're made by Wuque

[regal sedge]

it’s basically the same price on ali express

I LIED

lol

[cyan lark]

Really? Last I looked it was $2/switch MSRP and less than $1 on Ali

[regal sedge]

nah i capped

[cyan lark]

alg

[regal sedge]

any difference

[cyan lark]

yeah about a dollar a switch

[regal sedge]

always been skeptical

from ordering off ali

[sacred elm]

Difference in what

[regal sedge]

idk in the switch or something 😭

[reef sleet]

Just gotta buy from verified sellers, listings that actually have items sold. I usually filter by items sold

[sacred elm]

No, I have one pack from Wuque directly, one from Ali, they're identical.

[regal sedge]

dayum

[sacred elm]

AliExpress is fine if you order from a reputable seller

[tropic urchin]

I’ve ordered from two of the official vendors, it’s fine

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

I’ve bought from MMD Ainy and GGboy, got the same maroon container and switches were identical. Vendor largely doesn’t matter unless you buy $5 per 90 flux with the same picture

[regal sedge]

buddy where the hell did u find these

[tropic urchin]

Then you’ll probably get some BS

[regal sedge]

i look them up on ali and none of those ones even showed up besides the first link

[robust siren]

its my collection

[crisp zinc]

I know what FAQ says, but is it REALLY impossible to use the split 60v2 with a normal spacebar? I mean if there's nothing physically preventing you from putting a long stabilizer wire all the way through (as shown on the image), it should be alright

[sacred elm]

No, it's not possible

[tropic urchin]

Why not just order the regular

[regal sedge]

ty king

[crisp zinc]

Alright nvm I didn't notice the middle switch placement before

[cyan lark]

It's a clever idea though

[polar girder]

Nice. Try Tikken then get back to me

Tempted to buy module and keysnaps to try on frog mini (the real one not the fake one)

[crisp zinc]

I prefer 80he anyways, I was just wondering about this spacebar thing because I noticed two 60v2 variants being sold separately

And I thought wooting would just make some swap module kind of stuff (like with gk61x split spacebar)

[regal sedge]

what are the UFOs?

[cyan lark]

I will when the v2 arrives!

[polar girder]

I have Tikkens just not a spare plate to try them on

I just hate removing switches so much

[glacial wind]

There’s a switch I’ve heard of that will be my new main once it’s out, but I hold judgement for when it’s out

[cyan lark]

I keep hearing this hinting and I'm very curious

[tropic urchin]

🤨

[cyan lark]

VDCF (very)

[tawdry tree]

VDCFs would be Ocean Whispers, those are the ones I’m looking out for.

I already have a couple on the way but not enough for a full board.

ST: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[regal sedge]

alright just got the flux es

[cyan lark]

Hm is that a link to a st? Not seeing (hearing) it

[tawdry tree]

It is, yeah. Here’s it again:

[tawdry tree]

Eh, ignore the second vid, those are RGBs, not Ocean Whispers.

[cyan lark]

ah sorry saw image on first didn't realize the latter were vids 😳

oh those sound niiiice

oh wait

[tawdry tree]

They’re much deeper and quieter than the DCFs, I like it.

[cyan lark]

i think i was responding to DCFs which were first, right?

[regal sedge]

did you get off ali express to

[tawdry tree]

In the video with the green keycaps, the Ocean Whisper is the switch in the middle (3rd from the left).

[tawdry tree]

Most got their fluxies off of ali

[hot rivet]

i bought the wooting 60he v2 and some ceramic keycaps, iirc the v2 already comes with foam installed is there anything else i can do to improve the thockiness?

also whats the hype around these flux switches i keep hearing everyone talk about? are they really that much better than the lekken v2s?

[tawdry tree]

Not really, maybe a deskmat but I’d wait until you get everything in and then see how you like it.

[hot rivet]

is a deskmat different from a mousepad?

[tawdry tree]

They’re much more stable than Lekker V2s and sound cleaner, that’s still the case for Tikkens as well (which the v2 comes with) but it’s not that much of an upgrade.

[tawdry tree]

You can use whatever, some people use a towel even. If you have a wide mousepad, you can try that.

[hot rivet]

yea i have a desk sized mousepad so im good there

[hot rivet]

ah okay i didnt even realize tikkens were different from the lekkers lol

[tropic urchin]

Most switches are better than lekker v2s, but flux hype is primarily from ppl who haven’t tried TTC POM stability and also liked the Jade sound profile

[regal sedge]

yeah my bad i’m just hella skeptical 🤣

[hot rivet]

so its not really worth the upgrade to fluxes if i have the tikkens is basically what youre saying right?

wait the lekker v2s and tikkens are different switches right?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[hot rivet]

i got it mixed up initially i thought they were the same thing

[tawdry tree]

It’s subjective at the end of the day, but I’d just stick with Tikkens for now and if you want to try fluxies later on you always can.

[hot rivet]

okay bet

[left depot]

https://wooting.io/products?category=switches

[hot rivet]

cause i do also have to buy a pack of gateron blues for the spacebar since im getting ceramic keycaps lmao

[cyan lark]

gateron blues? are those HEs?

[hot rivet]

yea

[hot rivet]

https://www.cerakey.com/products/gateron-blue-magnetic-switch

[tropic urchin]

Jade sapphires nice

[cyan lark]

Just making sure 🙂

[hot rivet]

tyty

[sacred elm]

Did you preorder 60HE v2?

[hot rivet]

oh wait these are jade sapphires?

[tawdry tree]

Dif

[hot rivet]

yes

[sacred elm]

It comes with 20pc 100g Lekker Tikkens, you don't need Gateron Blues

[tawdry tree]

Those are a Jade Pro recolor afaik. Jade Sapphires are a Jade Air recolor.

[tropic urchin]

Nah just making fun of Gateron since they did Jade rubys and these look like a similar recolor

[hot rivet]

i do believe someone mentioned how these are just recolored rubies

[tropic urchin]

Do they actually have a jade sapphire lmao

[tawdry tree]

99% of magnetic switches are recolors

[tawdry tree]

Ofc they do

They got Jade Emeralds

[hot rivet]

oh fr?

[tropic urchin]

Unbelievable

[tawdry tree]

Sapphires

Rubies

🔥🔥🔥

[tropic urchin]

No type involved, they’re just 💩

[sacred elm]

Yes, 20 exclusive Lekker Tikken switches with 100g bottom out force. You can use it for the spacebar.

[hot rivet]

ohhhh

okay cool

i had no idea tyvm

[sacred elm]

Also claim your role https://youtu.be/6hmRHWZSeXw

[hot rivet]

im jus gonna hope theyre relatively thocky switches

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/monka-cat-scared-scared-cat-wide-eyes-gif-5319946494583553667

[sacred elm]

Tikkens are one of the deepest switches currently

[hot rivet]

are the 20 switches im getting extra basically jus recolored tikkens?

[sacred elm]

Yes, with heavier springs

[hot rivet]

W

[left depot]

[hot rivet]

thank you for all the help yall

very excited to hear my keyboard

damn near 400 spent on it lol

[chilly mural]

From the sound test it's like near deepness of deep clack flux to me iirc

[glacial wind]

That’s a good start. Now start looking at Sony cameras and lenses to take photos of your new keyboard

[regal sedge]

already done that step 💔

[hot rivet]

have to make sure to get a 4k oled monitor for editting and color grading too

[cyan lark]

sno adamant about draining people's wallets

[chilly mural]

No, he's simply following the spirit of this channel

[cyan lark]

The topic needs updating

Want to spend every last penny chasing that thock dragon? Cases with beautiful artwork where you'll never see them, overpriced copper cables in fun twisty shapes? This is the place for you to get a second mortgage!

[hot rivet]

where were you able to find info on the 100g bottom out force?

im not able to find anything about em

[sacred elm]

#🤩│wooting60hev2 message

[tropic urchin]

Honestly this should be updated

🤣🤣🤣

[hot rivet]

jesus sorry if i made you go onna hunt for that lmao

[tawdry tree]

Surprise surprise

[chilly mural]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

At least I know it'll be better durability wise if what he said is true

Cause you know I'll be doing rhythm game with it which makes a lot of things I own worn out faster

[analog mulch]

lekker tikken vs raptor for clean muted sound and for gaming, but with a less stiff typing experience?

[tawdry tree]

Surelyyyyyyyyyyyy

[tawdry tree]

Tikkens

[robust siren]

3:55 🤨
(in the video)

[chilly mural]

We'll see, I'll be doing some extreme stuff with it

[tropic urchin]

What plate are you running

[chilly mural]

actually, with the knob delay I have to delay my 60hev2 purchuse. mmm, guess more money going into steam frame

[analog mulch]

well, im thinking of buying wooting v2 and buying a separate white pom plate with holy 60 and plastic bottom (i have tofu 60 redux with PC and it dosent have bounce when typing i dont know how to say it but its too rigid while typing, i dont know if i screwd it too much)

[tawdry tree]

I learned from the best (j*kubix)..

[analog mulch]

i wanted to say raptor v2 or tikkens sorry if you misunterstand

misunderstand*

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Tikkens > Raptor HE V2s by a long shot.

[analog mulch]

are they lubed properly? since i dont really know how to lube 😄

[tawdry tree]

They are, yeah. I haven’t noticed any issues with the Tikkens so far.

[tropic urchin]

PC plate should feel pretty soft when typing, POM will be slightly stiffer than PC plate but not by a crazy amount. Only thing you gotta watch out for with raptors is that you may develop a spring crunch phenomena after a few days, but tikkens are a safer pick in that regard

Stiffness in my experience is almost exclusively switch plate unless you’re using heavy springs ig

[analog mulch]

i think i screwed my keyboard too much and it probably became stiff idk, using geon raw 50g

[tawdry tree]

or silent switches

(raeds )

[tropic urchin]

Well uh

No comment

[chilly mural]

Hoping for raeds v2

[robust siren]

tray mounting a keyboard (especially HE) will feel stiff

[tawdry tree]

Saw the Haimu raed clones already?

[chilly mural]

yep

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn’t over think it. POM won’t make it super soft feeling, but most plastic plates are already very soft feeling from FR4 and other stiffer plates. Maybe the friction fit with the V2 will feel nicer for you

[tawdry tree]

I hope those improve on Raeds’ flaws but I doubt it.

[analog mulch]

ok then i think its chosen hahaa

thank you guys!

[regal sedge]

are the raws not good?

[tropic urchin]

As long as you don’t become the guy that puts 7 different foams in his keyboard and wonders why it won’t close, you should be Gucci @analog mulch

[regal sedge]

i got them too but also placed a order some the flux

[tropic urchin]

They were 2023/2024 meta

Just old and outdated

[cyan lark]

Now do your best arrow-key person. I want nuclear generator-based knobs.

[regal sedge]

damn it man

[regal sedge]

i should’ve done more research 🤣

[analog mulch]

nah, im actually researching the best foam to mute high pitched sound xD

[chilly mural]

current meta is tikken or deep clack flux. Yesh

[analog mulch]

since i like a more muted sound

[analog mulch]

well to be honest they feel scratchy to me, but idk people used to love them

[tropic urchin]

You want poron foam

Poron mutes higher frequencies for lower ends

[analog mulch]

that's nice, thank you very much!

[regal sedge]

man i’ll have to see that for myself fr

[cyan lark]

That's probably the top stickiness you're experiencing

[tropic urchin]

If you werent here before Feb 2025, i wouldnt sweat it bc the switch options has exploded since then as it used to be Lekker V2, RAW and Jades/Jade pros as the popular picks

now all of those options are in the grave yard of switches past

[chilly mural]

can't wait for post Feb 2026 meta

[hot rivet]

do you know what kind of foam comes in the 60he v2?

[tropic urchin]

it can be very overwhelming

[tropic urchin]

EPDM iirc

[regal sedge]

hope it still gonna be flux lol

[tropic urchin]

i think you also get option of silicone but might just be switch plate but id ask @sacred elm as the V2 Czar

[hot rivet]

gotcha

[chilly mural]

I don't want flux to be another gateron jade pro

[regal sedge]

imagine getting them in december and some better ones come in january

💔

[sacred elm]

Silicone block preinstalled, EPDM foam is in the box

[hot rivet]

would you recommend doubling up on foam with the poron foam or should i be good with just the epdm

[tropic urchin]

So with TTC POM/Flux and Raptor V2 stability, you cant get much tighter from here so most switches unless they make a new mold that allows for even tighter tolerances, its going to be A/S for top and bottom wobble stability going forward

[glacial wind]

i believe the small knob delay is more of a durability issue than other issues as calder mentioned already

[tropic urchin]

so the only ways to innovate with current tightness is just to get more sound variety and feel

[glacial wind]

so not really same thing as the aligner jakubix style prediction

[chilly mural]

hopefully, but still hoping it's very good and durable

[hot rivet]

if im chasing the thock dragon should i install both the edpm foam and poron or what would you recommend?

[tropic urchin]

you could try but it might not close and could sound weird

[chilly mural]

though I also worried that might increase the knob's price

[glacial wind]

we have a soundtest of both on the 60he v2 page btw

you can compare for yourself

[hot rivet]

oh fr?

[glacial wind]

yeah scroll down on that page

we definitely do since i recorded and edited it lol

[sacred elm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_71htZmkbMo

[glacial wind]

nah we have a newer one

that old one was with a lower quality mic and setup so we re-recorded it purely just for the foam vs silicone bottom

[hot rivet]

this one right?

[glacial wind]

yeah

[analog mulch]

would you say epdm is as good as poron? in the silicone and epdm comparison i liked the epdm sound

[hot rivet]

yea the foam sounds the deepest i think

[glacial wind]

yeah silicone mutes it a bunch and makes it less deep

[tropic urchin]

as good sure, they both have a different sound to em

you'd need to have both and try to see which you prefer more

[hot rivet]

im too lazy to do allat

im jus gonna stick with the epdm

[cyan lark]

I suspect the real reason foam sounds deeper is silicone reflects more high end vs foam absorbing it

[glacial wind]

you need to phrase that in a way zoomers can understand

silicone doesn't max out and foam has aura

[cyan lark]

If I could speak to zoomers I wouldn't need that translation tool you're working on

[hot rivet]

silicone is a thock chud and foam is a thock chad

[cyan lark]

What was it called, english2brainrot?

[glacial wind]

my favourite wow memory is when i convinced half our raid to install the uwu add on that converts everything you type into uwu speak

that was a great raid

translation really is the key to joy

[fluid ravine]

I didnt buy more
I just so happen to have more

[cyan lark]

Triggering me for when I installed cowsay on my work machine and then did a production ansible deployment the next day

https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/68571

[tropic urchin]

Alr bud, I'am telling wuque

[fluid ravine]

(」ﾟﾛﾟ)｣ᴺᴼᴼᴼ~

[tropic urchin]

I saw that fire emoji

you cant hide from me

[fluid ravine]

Huh

[chilly mural]

go buy big boi dac that support ASIO, that way you're prepared when game started adding it for that 1ms audio latency

[tropic urchin]

time to get dat JDS Element IV

@chilly mural tryna cop it over the holidays hehe

[chilly mural]

I support it

It has ASIO

I also want dac with ASIO cause rhythm game benefit for it by a fuck ton

but uhh, no $500 to spare

[tropic urchin]

apparently its run by 1 guy and has excellent CS

[tawdry tree]

We’ll see.

[chilly mural]

holee fuck, that makes me want it more. Anything that's made by 1 guy and good is always 50/50 if it'll be goated or trash. This time goated.

[tropic urchin]

real

alot of ppl are happy with it and has built in EQ

[tropic urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhV3_WO_nKk

[chilly mural]

ehh, my headphone (hd490pro) is perfect the way it is

[cyan lark]

When people learn about diminishing returns it's gonna be really eye opening

Also: my keyboard is 8x faster than yours

[polar girder]

Faxxxxx

JDS element voucher

[chilly mural]

Actually I kinda still wanna grab JM1/new meta tuning IEM like Astral. I have a suspicious HD490 pro is tuned to be a lot like that but less bass.

[tropic urchin]

ill be monitoring when you mention EQing them at a later date

[polar girder]

Yesss SAME

JDS ELEMENT and 490 Pro is a goated combo ngl

[tropic urchin]

nice

[chilly mural]

You'll be dead before I tune my 490

[polar girder]

Yeah wtf

[tropic urchin]

W threat /s

[polar girder]

Why you EQ a Sennheiser?

Just buy a diff headphone duh

[glacial wind]

honestly i prefer the velour pads even though the cloth ones are cleaner for gaming sound

it's just comfiest

[chilly mural]

I just do cloth, when it's uncomfy it just means it's time for me to take a break

[cyan lark]

Sorry, what is this:

take a break

[polar girder]

3 hours later the Major is back online

[chilly mural]

Can't a man close his eyes without his lover cooking lunch?

[cyan lark]

I should give the cloth another shot. The discomfort was rough especially on my stubble.

[cyan lark]

I don't know what this means but I think it's beautiful

[cunning yoke]

Reply to THIS message in YOUR opinion what is the best possible switches for the Wooting 60HE?!

[tropic urchin]

In my OPINION, Deep clack flux. HOWEVER, there are cheaper options available as well

[cunning yoke]

I personally love the deep clack flux from wuque studio too ngl

[tropic urchin]

They have the best stability to sound ratio imo, but tikkens are also good but after using POM/flux, I didn’t like their top wobble

[cyan lark]

In MY opinion, it's a TIE between the DEEP CLACK FLUX by WUQUE and the KING of MAGNETIC polyOXYmethylene BY ttc

[polar girder]

Do DCF have better stock lube?

Aka better than non existent?

[cyan lark]

I haven't cracked one open yet to look 👀

[robust siren]

yeah

@sacred elm has relubed them i think

he can probably tell you how it feels

[sacred elm]

Factory lube is good

After hand lube they sound a bit cleaner

[tropic urchin]

It’s primarily on stem

[chilly mural]

DCF lube is nice to me

[tropic urchin]

Springs seemed dry but I’ve yet to see any factory lubed springs so far

[cyan lark]

Decent on the stem, don’t see any elsewhere

Ooh, the light guide is attached to the top housing 😍
Too bad I can't crack them w/ the goated gateron cracker - will be a longer lube job

[limpid lava]

if I wanted to friction mount a 60he v2 board in a tofu60 case and not screw it in couldn't I attach/use something similar to the sponge from the optimum case to ground the board?

[sacred elm]

There's also lube inside this ring, where the spring goes. It helps with the pinging a lot

[cyan lark]

ah nice, I already closed it up, probably just missed it

[robust siren]

yeah but youd need to sand off the finish on where you place the sponge

[limpid lava]

yea I figured id need to do that just wanted to make sure it would work like i thought before I did it

[cyan lark]

I just scraped a patch off w/ a flathead screwdriver but I'm a maniac

[robust siren]

im using my 60he+ module in a case with no case foam

just suspended in the case with gaskets

[cyan lark]

How are you even still alive

[robust siren]

3 layers of painters tape between the pcb and case

[cyan lark]

😉

[polar girder]

Gotcha. Nice thanks.

[limpid lava]

im excited for the v2 itll be my first wooting board

[cyan lark]

Split or big spacebar?

[limpid lava]

big spacebar

im basic the split seemed a bit too wild for me

[cyan lark]

So close to greatness

[sacred elm]

[cyan lark]

[robust siren]

[tropic urchin]

It’ll stay at 20% adoption and you’ll like it

[cyan lark]

Happy to be in the 80th percentile over the 20th 🤷

[tropic urchin]

You should be happy you even have the 20% that got disillusioned with your skibidi space bars

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[tropic urchin]

I’m right and you know it

Look at the amount of stabilizers and switches needed to imitate even a fraction of the OG power

[robust siren]

i wont have a crooked ahh spacebar then (i have no idea why it is, ive bent the spacebar back to be flat and the stab wires are also flat)

it is noticible higher on the right of the spacebar then the left

and yes its pushed on all the way

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[bleak summit]

What kind of stabilisers should I be looking for if I have 60he+ module with peach magnetic switches?

[stray tiger]

The stock ones!

[bleak summit]

The stock ones are gateron inks right?

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-uno-uno-reverse-card-uno-cards-uno-reverse-card-meme-gif-12483429616104088768

[sacred elm]

Just a regular Gateron screw-in stabilizers

not ink

[stray tiger]

Negative and while there are tons of stab options out there, all of them can be tuned to sound great

[tropic urchin]

Instead you’ll just have uneven space bars 🔥

[chilly mural]

Waiting for dat 80he split

[bleak summit]

I see! Should I lube the stock stabs then?

[sacred elm]

That's just 60HE thing

One side is higher

[stray tiger]

Absolutely!

[tropic urchin]

Bro even cropped out the artist, that’s how you know he’s big mad

[bleak summit]

Which lube you recommend?

[peak breach]

knob delayed

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[chilly mural]

It's alright

Just imagine the artist taking time to make the sweet sweeter

[cyan lark]

I’m on my phone sitting in front of a fire

[peak breach]

no news about switch selector either

[chilly mural]

That's not a fire, that's a cat

[glacial wind]

It’s being tested now by some people, there’s some bugs with it on 80he in particular that they’re trying to iron out before opening the beta

[chilly mural]

ooo

[glacial wind]

It’s been working great on my 60he v2 though

With the 0.1mm rt too

[chilly mural]

OOOOO

Stop hyping me

[peak breach]

good to know

[trail bane]

Edging

[chilly mural]

FR

this edged as hard as 80he edge

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8

[trail bane]

Somewhere between soon and tm

[bleak summit]

Thank you sir 🙏💪

[peak breach]

hm?

[trail bane]

soon…||knob release||… tm

[stoic ocean]

Guys do you know semi transparent keycaps with red legends like the cherry artisan

[peak breach]

yall sure like to talk about edging knobs

[tropic urchin]

That’s clearly AI generated

[cyan lark]

Too sweet I know

[distant raven]

The United Splitbar Front is not amused.

[tropic urchin]

Those 5 ppl will be seething in silence then

[distant raven]

...

Unclear on if this accounts for the CS tickets requesting orders be changed from long to split.

[glacial wind]

I’d wager on percentage going up once reviews on split come out honestly

[distant raven]

Also unsure of production figures.

[uneven cradle]

Jokes on you I got my split spacebar sorted and it didn't even cost too much

[tropic urchin]

Alright so 21%

[distant raven]

I think once people understand just how advantageous split actually is for games that are bind-key poor, it's going to grow more.

moving a bind off of my mouse and onto left hand is huge

I'm also super odd in that 3/4 or more of my spacebar use is right thumb.

This space bar is not very old at all!

already getting the right thumb shine

[uneven cradle]

Can't help but notice Omnitype happens to have a big sale on GMK @stray tiger

That GMK collectors bundle is pretty sick not sure I can justify buying 13 GMK sets though

[trail bane]

Nah the only split i’ll try is backspace

[tawdry tree]

and split RShift surely?

[uneven cradle]

Backspace split is cursed

[cyan lark]

Rshift enjoyers are the cream of the crop. And you know what the cream does?

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-randy-savage-mmrs-gif-5175734

I could see split rshift, it is rather large, but the 1u rshift may as well not be there IMO

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, a 1.75U RShift should be big enough for most, if not all people.

Split RShift is +1 key basically.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-crunchy-cat-glasses-cat-luna-glasses-cat-gif-12732289841207803174

[stray tiger]

Its such a sick price if you want to start a collection. I have all but two of those already so it's not a good deal for me. I paid much more for sure though

[cyan lark]

Yup I think 1.5 or 1.75 would be fine

[little prairie]

do we like mmd c1s

[uneven cradle]

They nice for the price

[little prairie]

is there any reason to pick lekker linears instead of tikkens

[cyan lark]

no

[tropic urchin]

Tikkens are the lekker replacement so no

[calm pulsar]

basicly you're wearing 🧢

[uneven cradle]

I'm all for 7u but split backspace is where I draw the line

[cyan lark]

7u is for the ✨ aesthetes ✨

[polar girder]

I just wish split space had symmetrical split space

Need bigger right thumb space

For all the right thumb space bar slappers

[cyan lark]

Big ideas time: a module for the module. Daughterboard for the spacebar.

[polar girder]

Looks like Wooting just found their new VP of Product & Design

[calm pulsar]

separate pcb and aluminum case for spacebar only

gasket mounted, liquid cooled and heated too to warm your fingers during winter

[robust basin]

Where can I check which compatible switches have the best performance for gaming? I want nice sounding ones, but if they cause less accuracy with movements and response then I'd rather stay away.

[tropic urchin]

There’s also a sound test database with all of these and more switches if you’re interested

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[robust basin]

ty

[tropic urchin]

I’d stay away from silent switches/anything advertising switch foam or putting orings in your switches and you should be fine for switch accuracy

[robust basin]

So from the image above, basically just the silent ones would be a bad option?

[trail bane]

Gn

[robust basin]

everything else being okay ?

[tropic urchin]

Pretty much

Since their dampening mechanism is what gives it worse accuracy than other ones

[robust basin]

gotcha

thank you

I already have a custom wooting with jades, but I want something different.

I also want to change stabilizers, is that an option ?

I prefer more thocky sounds if possible

[thorn zealot]

fellas is this peak

[tropic urchin]

You can if you want, but it won’t give you any real improvements unless yours needs straightening

[cyan lark]

what's that on?

I mean which storefront

[tropic urchin]

Stick to PC/plastic plates and see which switch fits your criteria

[thorn zealot]

its called loaded

ive used it many times before

[cyan lark]

ah

[tropic urchin]

Thocky in HE isn’t super achievable, so you’ll need some compromises, but you can always mod it to get semi close @robust basin

[thorn zealot]

also ima just say this

ups > usps

[cyan lark]

don't rile me up

[thorn zealot]

ups is delivering earlier than expected

thats all i needed to know

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[thorn zealot]

and usps still stinks

[tropic urchin]

UPS is big stinky tho

[thorn zealot]

ups is stink

usps is stank

[tropic urchin]

Nighty night

[thorn zealot]

looks like the usps driver that delayed my package

[tropic urchin]

😭😭😭😭

[cyan lark]

Austin Walker is a gem of a human, watch yourself

[tropic urchin]

He looks more like an emerald than a sapphire tho

[robust basin]

I haven't been active in the community for a while so my knowledge isn't the best, I just wanted to change the sound of my board to be honest ( without hindering performance). So I'll take a look at the sound tests now for the switches

[tropic urchin]

You’ll have more options than before, but getting MX sound (thocky, creamy etc) largely isn’t feasible, but you do have a lot more deeper switch options to choose from

[thorn zealot]

he makes putin look like a servicable human being

[tropic urchin]

Typically you’ll want softer plates instead of hard plates for your ideal build rookie

[cyan lark]

[thorn zealot]

i apologize

but usps still shit

[cyan lark]

I cannot help you

[full night]

is there a site for all active or upcoming group buys of keboard cases?

[tropic urchin]

Keycaps yes, cases idk

[thorn zealot]

idk of a site but i watch this guy called kirin on yt

where he goes over a bunch of gbs for keycaps, cases, and other stuff

[uneven cradle]

Geekhack is where pretty much all of them get posted

[robust siren]

man youre right
the astral iem cable is so thicc

[robust basin]

i'm looking at the case compatibility, and see the tofu is no longer combatible. Why is that?

That's what I'm using right now

Or is it just the 2.0 thats incompatible

[sacred elm]

Tofu60 Redux is compatible

2.0 isn't

[robust basin]

ah

i understand now, thanks.

[tropic urchin]

its been my favorite stock cable imo

[native wharf]

hello my flux deep clack things just arrived

can someone tell me which side should be

facing me

im hotswapping on the wooting uwu

the lekker v1s i had before were easy cuz they said GATERON with big letters in the front

i assume the kinda reflective side on the fluxes goes in the back? it's like for the led or something

from the bottom too one side has a transparent thing so i assume that goes in the back

the lekkers are similar on the bottom

but can someone verify for sure lol

[distant raven]

the little clear "window" thing goes to the "north" of the keyboard

like that

[native wharf]

ok yep thought so

thanks

[distant raven]

you're welcome

[native wharf]

let's see if these really have no wobble....

[distant raven]

the deepcluxcult seems to love them I haven't used them, but they're ranked well for stability

[native wharf]

oooooookay on my mousepad the sound is pretty muted but on my wood desk it's insane wtf

that really is a deep clack

ok so

it still says 4.0mm on wootility which i was told is normal

[tropic urchin]

switch selector not out yet

[native wharf]

but these are only 3.5mm so does that mean i have to change my settings

because from what i understand the 4.0mm value is not really 4.0 it's just

[distant raven]

wootility just measures 0-100% flux strength (magnetic flux)

It will calibrate that way and display that way

[native wharf]

100%

[distant raven]

my 3.4mm switches measure "0 to 4mm" also but it's really just 0-100%

[tropic urchin]

yeah its % based until the switch selector releases where it should accurately show with DCF

[distant raven]

(I have KOM POMs)

[native wharf]

hmm yea but for example before i was using 0.3 rt with 4.0 max so like 7.5% of the total value, now i want 0.3 rt again but the max value is 3.5 but if i set it to that then that's 8.5% of the max value

[distant raven]

But it will faithfully calibrate with each time you plug the keyboard in, so even if you were to have a mixture of 4 and 3.5 mm switches (which would be kinda silly) it would report 0-4 for all of em

[native wharf]

or

IDK

im tipsy it's not time for math

[distant raven]

I didn't have good luck with 0.1mm activation, but I found 0.2 and 0.3 and 0.4 mm activation totally fine for rapid stuff

[native wharf]

basically should i use 0.25rt or something instead of 0.3

[distant raven]

I use 1mm for typing

[native wharf]

yea i mean just to get the closest possible values to what i was using before

like

[distant raven]

yeah you'd have to math it out

[native wharf]

alright i'll test first without changing anything and then maybe tweak

[distant raven]

old value / old max = new value / new max

solve for the missing variable

0.3 / 4 = x / 3.5

x = 0.2625

I'd round to 0.3

0.2 is pretty twitchy

[native wharf]

there is 0.25

[distant raven]

ah there you go then

[native wharf]

ok and 0.8 actuation should become uhhhh 0.7

cool thanks

[robust siren]

@fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

YESSSSS

[robust siren]

sojus and damn good music

[fluid ravine]

[stoic ocean]

Guys, I don't know if I'm late, I'm even a little embarrassed to ask, but Tofu 3.0 hasn't been released yet?

[night atlas]

Are these the soju keycaps?

[robust siren]

yes

[night atlas]

i might pull the plug

[robust siren]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1436013386855874631
to convince you further

you already know we gotta make spending habits worse

@fluid ravine @tropic urchin im loving these so far
it could also be cause of the dac/amp too but man they feel much more impactful than the zero:reds did

[fluid ravine]

RIGGHT???

[night atlas]

don't u ever call me out like this again

hahahha

[fluid ravine]

What DAC/amp are u using

[robust siren]

moondrop dawn pro 2s

[tropic urchin]

DAC gives it a boost, but most of that is the audio jump from getting your first nice set

Top pros are like a more juiced version of the astrals

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/monka-cat-scared-scared-cat-wide-eyes-gif-5319946494583553667

[tropic urchin]

follows the same tuning

[fluid ravine]

How is it?

I want to get a Protocol Max for my dongle dac

[robust siren]

well i just unboxed it like an hour ago so
but it def outputs way more than enough power for the astrals

[fluid ravine]

Ic

My fiio k11 being a bitch to me sometime

Disconnecting random times

[robust siren]

the dawns have an internal volume adjuster with 100 steps, using that at max and windows at 10 is 🔥

[fluid ravine]

Idk if it's the cable or just the dac

[fluid ravine]

Shiii

[robust siren]

yeah i heard thats the main issues of dongle dacs
if an internal cable starts fraying then the whole thing is fried

[fluid ravine]

Oh I have the uh
Fuh my brain farted

Uhhh

[robust siren]

but the dawn is thumb-drive style
detachable usb-c and comes with a usb-c to usb-a adapter

got it under $50

[fluid ravine]

Gg my brain is gone

[robust siren]

yeah those

[fluid ravine]

Shi should I save money and buy this instead of protocol max?

[robust siren]

thats the one from cinear right?

[fluid ravine]

Yesh

[robust siren]

in the review vid i watched theyre pretty much identical but i might be misremembering

lemme find the vid

[fluid ravine]

Yeah and you can eq and shi

[robust siren]

i cant find it

oh yeah the eq saving hting

i dont think the dawn has that

[robust siren]

if the eq save to dongle matters then ig the protocol is better for you

[fluid ravine]

Honestly na

I don't eq

I love the way my Astrals sound

[robust siren]

eq is copium

[fluid ravine]

Even my Tangzu x HBB XuanNv

[fluid ravine]

Real

Dawn it is

SAVE MONIII

[robust siren]

amazon black friday sale too

[fluid ravine]

Yeaaaa

Still waiting for someone to buy my audio interface

[stoic ocean]

Steal*

[honest sparrow]

Hey guys. Does someone know if the fit friction pad of the 60 v2 is transparent as the old one? Need it for a rgb based build

[robust siren]

same as its cheapest price ever

so it was NOT marked up and put on discount

(ahem) unlike some items

[uneven cradle]

@fluid ravine it's time for your collection to grow

[fluid ravine]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[uneven cradle]

That's 13 GMK sets for $950

[fluid ravine]

The more you buy the more you save head ah

[robust siren]

if it works it works

[uneven cradle]

But also they have some pretty decent discounts on some of those sets individually

Unfortunately shipping is for me

[fluid ravine]

[uneven cradle]

Tirade approval

[ionic breach]

what is omni cooking this time

[fluid ravine]

I miss Pops :c

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/royals-kansas-city-royals-hot-fire-wallet-gif-23888522

[ionic breach]

oh my lord

they done it again

[uneven cradle]

Should have got the advent calendar they made

[ionic breach]

this is quite nice tho

[fluid ravine]

I miss my BooBs

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[stray tiger]

Awesome set. I had that exact set on my 80HE recently. let me find a pic

I moved that set over to my RAW 80HE before I swapped it out for the set on it now.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/mf-doom-doom-mf-gif-5113505

[stray tiger]

Rocking these caps on the RAW now

[stray tiger]

Ive got some new secret switches coming next week to test!

[distant raven]

4mm ultra stable POM wen

[robust siren]

thats a lot of keycaps

[stray tiger]

Probably in 2026

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/keegan-michael-key-idea-horrible-gif-12701172

[robust siren]

the horrible idea was starting to talk in this discord again

[uneven cradle]

[stray tiger]

For me or for you?

[robust siren]

since then ive modded my entire wooting again and got new iems

[robust siren]

me

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-what-we-expect-what-we-expect-expectations-hoping-expected-gif-15429965

[glossy pagoda]

Ooeh secret switches? Clue me in in DM, I'm curious...

[robust siren]

[robust siren]

split spacebar 2-3 weeks out

[stray tiger]

Looks so clean

[uneven cradle]

Taking a lot of willpower rn to not buy more keycaps

[tropic urchin]

you can always get more

[uneven cradle]

True

[paper bison]

why does the spacebar look uneven

[robust siren]

because it is

i took the pic before i bent back

[distant raven]

bro literally had a warped key

[thorn zealot]

im still waitin for my raw alu case

my mars cadet have been sittin in my drawers for like half a yr now

[robust siren]

but like shafie said earlier on 60hes, the spacebar is higher on the right side

i guess it was slightly more obviously with a tiny bit of warpped spacebar

surprisingly it didnt sound horrid and still worked with standard length stabs (instead of long poles)
hence why i never checked if it was warpped

[paper bison]

the default stabs are higher on the right side? i never noticed tf

[robust siren]

no i have aftermarket stabs (knight v2s)

dont ask me how or why that makes sense

[paper bison]

[robust siren]

ive double checked everything

[paper bison]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[robust siren]

spacebar stab wire is as flat as i could get it to be and the spacebar is free of warpage

the only thing that wouldnt make it work is that its not long pole but

[humble surge]

@silk hound SB orders/shipments are really catching that holiday season congestion, let me tell you ^^

[warped salmon]

where can I get a PC plate for the 80he?

[cyan lark]

It ships with one.

[robust siren]

80he has a pc plate

[warped salmon]

oh shit ok lmao

[sick owl]

im looking to buy new stabilizers as the ones with the board have a lot of rattle, would getting typeplus x yikb or durock ones fix that?

[distant raven]

which board

[sick owl]

80he iso

[distant raven]

did you check stabilizer for straightness and also lube it?
Try that first. My spacebar was really annoying until I tweaked it with lube.

Failing that, if you just hate them, a lot of folks speak highly of Knights v4

[sick owl]

yeah i lubed and tried to follow some guide on how to straighten them, it helped a little but its still louder than I'd like it to be

[distant raven]

I don't have personal experience with the Knight Stabilizers v4, but several folks here say they're great.

[sick owl]

it's difficult to get anything in the eu last time i've checked so I was just gonna order something from aliexpress, if i can get them somewhere here i'll have a look thankyou

[distant raven]

yeah you'll have to googlefu that, I don't have knowledge of best place to buy them in EU

[glacial wind]

Durock stabs are basically same level as the stock stabs

[glacial wind]

@tidal frigate btw for ANSI there's 1 screw hole that doesn't match between the v1 and v2 stuff according to kevin. So I assume that means it should still work but you won't be able to using that one screw hole

[hushed stirrup]

Are the flux deep clacks worth upgrading from duhuk herz if i care most about stability and smoothness? Sound is still important but the feeling comes first

[tawdry tree]

Didn’t you mount the v2 in the OW60 with its plate already?

[glacial wind]

jakubix is doing something different

he's wanting to use the leftover v2 parts on his v1 wooting

[tawdry tree]

Ah, so it wasn’t about the plate?

[regal patio]

Guys what are some good stabilizers for the wooting?

[glacial wind]

the v2 plate is different to v1 plate slightly in one spot

owlab plate does work with v2 though to confirm, lemme see i took a photo trying it out other day

[tawdry tree]

If the OW60’s plate worked just fine, then the screw holes should be the same (or so similar that it doesn’t matter).

I think previously it was mentioned already that the v1 and v2 share the same standoff locations for the plate, just not the v2 split.

[tawdry tree]

Stock. 😃👍

[glacial wind]

v2 plate itself has some extra/different screw spots

Ah found it

Yeah I tested the owlab plate into our friction fit to be safe

you skip one screw near backspace basically

[tawdry tree]

lol, that isn’t even a standoff location

Owlab just used the plate file without looking into it

KBD did the exact same thing tbf

but still

[glacial wind]

yeah that's specifically regarding owlab plate, with v2 plate it's something else i think

this came direct from our product dev folks: For our own 60HE OG steel plate, there will be 1 screw point not matching with v2 PCBA

[tawdry tree]

can you ask kevin what exactly he meant? cause the owlab plate is a mistake on owlab’s part, not a particular change the v1 has

[glacial wind]

so the v1 and v2 pcba can go back and forth for non split but there might be 1 screw point

he's not talking about owlab plate

he's talking about v1 vs v2

the owlab plate matches 1:1 though

[tawdry tree]

that’s odd that it wasn’t apparent to you when you used the owlab plate

[glacial wind]

owlab plate is not v2/v2 plate is where i think you're getting confused here

we're not talking at all about the owlab plate compatibility

[tawdry tree]

yeah, so it doesn’t make sense. Unless it’s similar enough to not matter.

[tawdry tree]

You’re using the V2 PCB in that pic right?

[glacial wind]

yeah, but that's the owlab plate in the pic

jakubix is specifically trying to use v2 stuff with v1 board NOT with owlab stuff

he wants to take leftovers from his v2 and use it on v1

[tawdry tree]

so if one standoff didn’t match, it would be apparent. so either the v2 has an extra standoff location, or the standoff locations are similar enough to not matter. that makes sense?

[glacial wind]

yes, what is your point here?

that's what i've been saying lol

[tawdry tree]

you know which standoff is supposed to be different/new on the v2?

wasn’t apparent in the renders from what I saw

[glacial wind]

i haven't checked that specifically, i only pinged jakubix so he doesn't complain that 1 screw doesn't matchup perfectly when he goes to do his franken match

[tawdry tree]

Do you remember why you couldn’t screw this in? Was there no hole or was the hole too small?

[glacial wind]

there's no hole even there iirc

[tawdry tree]

Ah, then what I think Kevin talked about isn’t standoffs but the pins the V1 had, which aren’t standoff locations to begin with so it doesn’t matter.

[tawdry tree]

There should be another pin location below tab.

Both were probably removed on the V2.

[glacial wind]

you need more lenses before you get into artisans

[tawdry tree]

This is one of the most interesting hole I’ve seen in quite some time. The only PCB that has a standoff in that location is the split/space 60HE v2 (according to the render), but why in the world would Owlab have added that?

Interestingly, OW60’s plate was changed. The first picture is the Chinese release and the second the international release.

@glacial wind when you can, please ask Kevin if he meant a screw hole or pin hole, if it’s the latter, compatibility would be affected. It could be a miscommunication.

[glacial wind]

he's talking about the v1 plate i'm pretty sure

as in if you use the v1 plate on the v2 pcb then that's where the screw hole is different

none of his discussion is regarding owlab stuff

[tawdry tree]

You misunderstand why that hole not matching up is important. Either way, it’d be nice to know exactly what Kevin meant, as it conflicts with what was previously stated about the standoff locations being the same.

[glacial wind]

sigh.

we're discussing the steel plate as in the v1 steel plate and the v2 pcb

[tawdry tree]

and again, if he was talking about pins, then neither plate would be cross compatible, for j*kubix’ sake.

[glacial wind]

i'm not sure what's confusing about the statement

v1 steel plate vs v2 pcb

he already said the owlab plate works fine, it's specifically the v1 steel plate

[tawdry tree]

I care because it was stated that the v1 and v2 (non-split) share standoff locations, this is quite important for 3rd party plates.

So if that information was wrong, I’d like to know.

[glacial wind]

they do, none of this is to do with your topic

[tawdry tree]

and this.

[glacial wind]

again V1 steel plate

none of this discussion is to do with standoffs of the owlab not matching split etc

[tawdry tree]

It’s tiring bro ngl

[tawdry tree]

Nothing to do with the OW60. ^

[glacial wind]

v1 steel plate is it's own thing is basically what i'm trying to explain

[tawdry tree]

Do you mean to say the standoff locations of the v1 and v2 plate are different but not those of the PCBs?!

[glacial wind]

none of the comments regarding v1 steel plate have anything to do with compatibility of the v2 and v1 other stuff

it's specifically the v1 steel plate has quirks

understand?

[tawdry tree]

No, as it doesn’t make any sense. 😭

[glacial wind]

"It depends on what plate is this user using, if used OWlab, I think it’s matched with the non split spacebar" right before

it's matched. That's all you need to know

you're good

stop worrying

[tawdry tree]

So Kevin’s statement of the screw loctions being different is just about the plate and not the fucking PCB?

[robust siren]

guys its been 2 hours

[tawdry tree]

[glacial wind]

YES that's what what i've been trying to explain the entire time

and i have no idea why you keep going off on that random tangent

[tawdry tree]

How the fuck does that make any sense?

[glacial wind]

i would assume when the v1 steel plate was designed there were just some non standard quirks

[glacial wind]

i knew what I was in for and i still fell for it

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

Standoff locations of the PCBs being matched but not those of the plates the PCBs use is one of the statements of all time.

[robust siren]

the chatbait

[trail bane]

Ayo what’s going on?

[tawdry tree]

Kevin is the one who’s baiting 😭

[trail bane]

[glacial wind]

no one even is talking about standoff locations etc

[ionic breach]

2hr convo abt a hole

[glacial wind]

i don't even know how aligner got on that when i was just trying to let jakubix know that some of the v1 plate might be quirky with v2

[trail bane]

Tuff

[robust siren]

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[ionic breach]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

[robust siren]

i love discord

[trail bane]

I hate this day

Eepy

[tawdry tree]

I actually can’t tell if you’re serious or not bro. Screws screw into the standoffs of the plate, the confusion is understandable right?

[tawdry tree]

Interesting hole day!

[robust siren]

its 2am and i got a 10am lecture

too hyped getting the astrals in

[trail bane]

I hope you learned this material and we will not have to return to it