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[tropic urchin]

It’ll tint it a bit but I don’t think it’ll be as bad as full POM/jade pro tint

[velvet egret]

alright thanks!

[tropic urchin]

Would’ve been cool if it wasn’t pink but that’s also one of the sacrifices 🙃

[velvet egret]

currently they are 48euros. dont really wanna be paying that much

[velvet egret]

yeah, plus id only see it during the night when my room turns into a cave xD

[trail bane]

Yeah, from chilkey or WS like right before Chinese batch

[trail bane]

Before 50% discount yn

[simple owl]

lubing? What does it mean? Mechanical keyboard here... 😉

[cyan lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

Many switches come lubed from the factory and don't really need hand-lubing

[tropic urchin]

Earlier meaning September, not May 2025 unc

About as moot of a point as “errm you have to factor in the official store pricing at all times bc of the few who can’t read ☝️🤓”

[tall hollow]

unless its TTC KOM

[silver lantern]

I pick two silent switches in Alixpress

Haimu Dove 13.73€ 70p
Tecsee HE 40.25€ 70p

[paper bison]

zedd my goat

actually decent at valorant lmao

[loud tiger]

yall got any recommendations for a taller base?

the one on the 60he feels too short compared to my hyperx

[fallen crag]

I think I've asked before, but I can't remember exactly so I'll ask again

How quality are the stabilizers on the 80HE default? In other words, would it be worth trying to swap them out for different stabilizers, rather than simply hand lubing them and leaving it at that.

[tall hollow]

theyre fine

not the best of the best, but also not the worst

[fallen crag]

Gotcha, i think I'll want to swap them out eventually then, just because I like to customize things to my liking

But that can probably wait a while

If anyone knows, what are the default stabilizers in the 80HE? It would be nice to look up some comparisons so I can get an idea of what I'm looking for.

[sacred elm]

Gateron screw-in stabilizers

[fallen crag]

Thanks!

[sacred elm]

Stock stabilizers will sound the same as third-party ones, if you properly lube and tune them

[fallen crag]

I'm going to do that first before I try anything else, I'm mostly just keeping this on the backburner

As a possible modding option

[ebon tusk]

@glacial wind does the jade ultra have even less wobble than all the other jades?

[sacred elm]

Bottom wobble yes

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[ebon tusk]

oh it's already on there, thanks

[stoic ocean]

Sound good too for me

[ebon tusk]

so geon raptor v2 is still the king of stability? i've tried geon raw, and while it was stable, it was kind of scrapey. there was noticeable stem friction

[marsh saffron]

Its also the king of spring crunch

[sacred elm]

Overall wobble yeah, but bottom wobble is still a bit worse than some walled stem switches

Also spring crunch

[ebon tusk]

never heard of spring crunch but it's fine, i don't care that much about the sound

[sacred elm]

It's not only the sound, you can feel it

[marsh saffron]

Spring crunch would be something you feel

[ebon tusk]

oh maybe that's what i felt then?

idk it was like a noticeable initial friction if i remember correctly

[sacred elm]

Raw has a different issue

[marsh saffron]

Pretty sure thats just a tolerance thing

[ebon tusk]

oh sorry, you're talking about raptor v2 yeah

[sacred elm]

You can wipe off some lube on the stem and top housing and that initial friction will be gone or at least get better

[marsh saffron]

Where do the ti hes rank on sno's list? In terms of wobble

[ebon tusk]

ah ok, thanks

[ebon tusk]

where is this spring crunch felt on the raptor v2? how far down?

[sacred elm]

When you bottom out

[marsh saffron]

Not bad

[sacred elm]

some don't notice it at all

for me it happened on multiple keys and I stopped using them

very annoying

[peak breach]

Some don’t get it*

[ebon tusk]

that would bother me. can't you just replace the spring?

[sacred elm]

Swapping springs won't help. I tried stock springs and TTC springs, both developed crunch.

Switch design is just flawed

[ebon tusk]

how did they find it acceptable to go to production with that massive flaw

[trail bane]

Gn

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/nite-good-night-looney-tunes-nite-nite-tweety-bird-gif-17770695

[humble surge]

order more and just swap the whole switch imo, thats what i went with, it's cheap af

[fallen crag]

Will still make money and it's okay enough for mos people, if I had to guess

[ivory stream]

Whats the goat of magnetic switches sound and feeling wise?

[humble surge]

It's subjective, but something like the Flux has alot of upvotes

👽 we shall see soon enough

[tall hollow]

crunchy

[sacred elm]

blessed by @sweet oak

[sweet oak]

Just how we like it

[indigo river]

XVX new silent switch or the Deep Clacky boys?

[neon nexus]

oh yeah mine also started doing that on a few keys

always happens on my W key after I swapped it for some other switch

[knotty helm]

Literally every single cool and versatile design for keycaps I can find for some reason are missing just one key, well most just don’t have the ISO ones but tbh they mainly are missing the enter one and some even have the sizes for the other keys. Examples are the XVX venom keycaps, the G-skill crystal crown ones, the xvx spider web ones, and other similar keycaps. Also the clear ones I found either had that problem or they had orange legends which I highly doubt looks good.

What do I do 😭😭😭

[humble surge]

I'm in a similar boat, but i will just use a conversion kit most likely

[sacred elm]

Raptor?

[neon nexus]

yop

[sacred elm]

classic

[neon nexus]

other than that they're pretty nice at least

I rarely bottom them out

[gray shoal]

Preparing for v2 shipment

Not even close

😭

I feel so scammed and the last thing I want to do is try and do customer service with kbd

[slow dome]

Man I got the ad for the V2 and opted for the 80he module with the new lekker tikken switches and a G80 case

[gray shoal]

Reddit post I even checked to make sure this was gonna be azure before ordering, because azure is blue not green technically

[slow dome]

Are the lekker tikken, prelubed enough?

[cyan lark]

Could be worse #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[gray shoal]

What the helly

I’m sorry for their lose

Just gonna sell this case on FB marketplace and find a new case through a different company

[cyan lark]

Assuming they’re like the Lekker V2 in terms of factory lube they should be fine

[slow dome]

Nice I can't wait, I just got my key caps from kbdfans today. I'm soo impatient.

[little glen]

The (admittedly few) interactions i had with kbdfans customer service were always good and nice

[rough hedge]

It's passable. Definitely benefits from extra lubbing imo

[little glen]

I havent had any issues with the lube on mine

[humble surge]

Some people said their support at times is so nice that if something shows OOS, they will check and go out of their way to make it available for you if theres leftovers.

[little glen]

They arent like ttc pom where you have to lube them no matter what

[slow dome]

Yeah let's see, it's my most custom keyboard I owned. I was just worried because I saw other people lubing and it's the one thing I haven't ordered

[little glen]

Dont worry about it

[cyan lark]

I can say with some certainty it’ll be good to go to start

[little glen]

You‘ll need to lube it in like 2 years or something

[gray shoal]

Just don’t want to go through the hassle of shipping back to China.

[slow dome]

Honestly I can't wait, it was all good until the key caps arrived from china. Now I really can't wait, everything just looks so good

[cyan lark]

As long as you don’t want it to be uh… squishy

[slow dome]

I bought the gt-80 in green and the pbtfans Emma kit, with novelty and contrast.
You guys think it's a good combination? I'm worried the greens aren't gonna match well

[little glen]

Slightly different shade is still fine if both are nice color

[ornate grove]

in terms of responsiveness and being good for gaming, are raptor v2 the best switches?

[sacred elm]

All HE switches are equally responsive

It's all about sound and feel.

[ornate grove]

oh ok

if i like the 45 weight option, is it better to get lekker tikken medium and swap it to a 45 spring or get lekker l45 v2 switch
like does tikken medium have other advantages over lekker L45 v2 or is it just spring difference

i heard tikken has less wobbel and 4mm travel but is that only based on spring?

[rough hedge]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[marsh saffron]

Did you look at their international kits?

Ik quite a few sets dont include it in base set and you gotta order international separately

[tall hollow]

OvO

[tall hollow]

main advantages is less stem wobble.

also heavier spring weight with the medium switches

compared to L45

[mental salmon]

While I do not have an exact answer for you, let me share my experience, 45g Lekkers V2 provides a soft typing experience, but I do not like the sound, anyways 55g is too much for my liking, so I am not getting Tikkens with my V2 module, I am using the TIs Heavy 50g, but still I would rather to use something lighter. In the meantime the best new switches come from nowhere I will use the LekkersV2 45 I already have. The thing is if you get the LekkersV2 you will not like the sound for sure. You can maybe get the Tikkens as an starting point, and down the road try the TIs 40g or other new light switch release

[sacred elm]

Probably better to get Tikkens and swap the springs, because Tikkens have improved tolerances for less stem wobble and a closed bottom for better feel and more distinct sound profile.

[ornate grove]

[heady terrace]

is the 60 v2 worth it over the 60he+

[fallen pecan]

Haimu also has a raed clone now

[tropic urchin]

you'd wanna get the TX AP 22mm (TX UXL) 45g springs

[heady terrace]

awesome thanks

is this about the same for the modules too

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin
https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-calkis?variant=44452818387083

another drink based keycap set

wait its actually kinda fire

[glacial wind]

Module is literally the same thing but minus case keycaps switches

[robust siren]

this is going on the list

[sacred elm]

Yeah

[ornate grove]

what's the difference between this one and the wooting L45 spring

[tropic urchin]

you could use that too as Mark has confirmed it should fit, but those would closely match the stock spring

[ornate grove]

is TX AP 22mm (TX UXL) 45g springs and the wooting 45g spring almost the same? which one would be better for gaming

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[paper bloom]

Its a banger

[robust siren]

its too similar to my sojus other than the fact its pbt instead

and japanese instead of korean

[paper bloom]

I gotta glaze my SUISEI

[paper bloom]

Thats p nice tho

[robust siren]

what im running rn

darker english alphas

[paper bloom]

This will be in my next build

yea korean text are bangers

[paper bloom]

I decided to cop the holy60

[fluid ravine]

i feel so weirded out from looknig at 6.25u now

it looks good doe

win mods is cute

every press = DRINK

bottoms up!

[ionic ferry]

Is the TOFU60 Redux good or should I go with a different case?

[robust siren]

im getting split soon enough

[fluid ravine]

yayyy

[robust siren]

i got clear novelties too

i’ll use em when i get v2

[lone tide]

i wanted these but there was no international kit😔

[robust siren]

rip

[lone tide]

i might get pbtfans doppelganger multilingual though🤔 i like the mostly neutral tone with the slight colourful accents

[robust siren]

not bad

kinda retro theme

[lone tide]

yeah i fw them heavy, cant decide if i get a white, gray or silver case though

[tall hollow]

retro themes are cool when done right

[robust siren]

silver

[lone tide]

max gaming responded to my email asking abt the gt60 and they said they are getting info on aquiring it

whatever that means

[robust siren]

so not anytime soon

[lone tide]

yeah😓 might have to get the silver tofu redux

or then i bite the bullet and order it from kbdfans along with the keycaps, im gonna wait for them to restock all the extra bits though if that ever happens

[prime orbit]

I need v2

[calm pulsar]

temu soju

[loud dirge]

does anyone have any keycap recs not sure about color yet but I wanna hear some good brands or sites to order from

[ionic breach]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[fallen crag]

I recently got my POM transparent caps

They’re nice, if you have the right preferences

[jade narwhal]

new switch with new structure from TTC

[glacial wind]

their new stems are split stem, was shown at the tokyo game show with their silent switch

[knotty helm]

who's? which one? cause all the ones i listed i could not find anything, for the venom ones there was a 121 key set but it had everything EXCEPT the enter keys

[calm pulsar]

yall seen Glarses made a GMK set

[cloud crane]

Ye, GMK POB or sumthin

Can't believe they actually put glarses face on novelties kit lmao

[crystal pagoda]

amazing kitting btw

I love an international kit for when theres no iso in base

[calm pulsar]

ISO isnt real anyways

[little glen]

Cause perfection isnt real

[peak breach]

Wu kong themed

[peak breach]

Comic sans font

[cloud crane]

[cloud crane]

https://youtu.be/vE-QpR_Dps4

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-goat-pet-cute-lamb-gif-15510165446943957256

[cyan lark]

Caught you in a lie almost immediately

[cloud crane]

[cyan lark]

Ayy DCFs are out for delivery today

[fallen pecan]

Aula's latest inductive board maxed out the latency test lmao

key down 11ms, key up 15ms

[humble surge]

Ohh, didn't know the RS7V2 was up there, interesting

[fallen pecan]

he usually gets the latest big brand stuff

[humble surge]

Rakka80 also seems interesting, i have to look into that.
Where is the Atlas, or am i blind?

[fallen pecan]

atlas on top

#1

[humble surge]

ohh its covered

[fallen pecan]

ye

[humble surge]

yeah i can see it

ty

rakka 80 edge on rakka dot dev, is that the correct unit? (not atlas, seeming as thats actually 60% i don't care)

[fallen pecan]

yes

[honest sparrow]

Hello guys. Does the 60v2 module includes the friction pad?

[timber crystal]

yes

[honest sparrow]

It says poron pad on the description. Its that wrong? (Ansi split module)

[timber crystal]

maybe it comes with poron someone told me that it has friction pad as the normal v2 with case so i think it comes with friction pad

but can be wrong

[honest sparrow]

I have one spare iso friction pad if it doesnt come perhaps I can mod it ...

[cyan lark]

Poron pad is a sound mod, friction pad is for mounting

[honest sparrow]

I know, but you have the put the friction pad where the poron is. What do you mean?

Mi 60+ is built on friction fit pad.

[cyan lark]

They aren’t mutually exclusive

[honest sparrow]

It wasnt like this on the 60+ right?

[honest sparrow]

It makes sense now.

[cyan lark]

Right it wasn’t cut around the alphas

[honest sparrow]

So it makes sense that it comes with the friction pad. Thank you!

[trail bane]

@fair heart

[fair heart]

lol

[reef oar]

fuck friction all my homies love screws

[chilly mural]

Rest in peace Aula

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[stable hamlet]

are there after market cases for the 80he yet?

[cyan lark]

GT-80

[humble surge]

As Turing said, also Holy80, Bone80 (i think this was the name) and Branch80

[lone tide]

holy80

[stable hamlet]

much appreciated everyone 👍

[blazing schooner]

was their a switch tier list that listed them off sound, stem wobble, etc?

[humble surge]

Sno has made his yes, but i don't have the link, just his general recommendation picture

#🔧│keyboard_modding message looks like this

https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/ found it in the pinned messages, scroll to bottom and theres the database

[glacial wind]

you can go direct to the database here: https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[obsidian tusk]

Hello guys , do you have any website for ordering a 80HE case in europe ?

[uneven cradle]

https://wooting.io/products?category=cases

[obsidian tusk]

Was more thinking about some aftermarket

like the gt80 but without expensive shipping and extra fees when its not comming from europe

[uneven cradle]

Maxgaming has them I believe

https://www.maxgaming.com/en/pc-accessories/keyboard-accessories/custom-keyboard/cases

[obsidian tusk]

ty

[paper bloom]

There are also 3rd party you can get but the main wooting store shld hv it

[blazing schooner]

anyone have a good comparison for gateron jade pros vs ttc kom pom linear vs ttc kom rgb linear (the wooting versions)?

I currently have the jade pros and was wondering if a different switch would be better for fps games and geometry dash. I heard the ttc kom switches have very low stem wobble

sound isn’t a huge factor for me as long as it’s not awful

[uneven cradle]

Switch database has them https://library.wooting.io/225eb39179848072869fdddc3b9ae808?v=225eb39179848012bc64000c9fe9d9c8

If you're looking for stability polar pros, TTC Helios and Raptor v2s are the current recommendations as per the chart

#🪛│modding_faq message

[blazing schooner]

thx I’ll check that out

[blazing schooner]

gateron jade pros didn’t seem to get that good of a rating. previously I saw a lot of ppl saying they were rlly good. was that for other areas?

[uneven cradle]

More so a bunch of newer switches have come out since they released

[blazing schooner]

oh

[blazing schooner]

in addition to the low stem wobble, I think I’d also like a switch with a moderately strong spring and 3.5mm travel distance or lower. I’m not too sensitive to this stuff for fps games so it’s mostly just geometry dash I’d want this for. so the three switches you mentioned would be good?

[uneven cradle]

Should be yep

[blazing schooner]

thx

[blazing schooner]

any thoughts on owlab ti switches? I’ve been hearing a lot about them

[uneven cradle]

They're solid, especially for the price

[tame garnet]

My Holy60 copycat arrived and it looks really good in deep cherry red

[ornate grove]

generally do people like Cherry profile more than OEM?

[robust siren]

i do

[uneven cradle]

Cherry is more common for third party keycap sets, oem is usually what keyboards use as their stock sets

[ornate grove]

i haven't tried a Cherry profile so I'm considering it

[trail bane]

I kinda like OEM spacebar but overall cherry is more practical

[cyan lark]

DCF installed.

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-thumbs-up-approve-computer-not-bad-gif-5362595

This could in fact be the one to dethrone KoM POMs for me

[tropic urchin]

[humble surge]

Any picture, video or sumtin?

[tropic urchin]

The only thing its missing the lighter springs, but other than that they're a fun time + they get extra poppy when you lube them

[paper bison]

i have my dcf in my desk drawer ready for the v2

didn’t get import tax from ali to the UK on a £200 order

[humble surge]

EZ dodge

[cyan lark]

Maximum effort

[polar girder]

Oh snap

What plate?

[cyan lark]

PC

(Heresy!)

[polar girder]

Why maybe DCF>KOM?

What’s preferred

[tropic urchin]

Jumpscare

[cyan lark]

Sorry?

[humble surge]

What mouse is above Turing? i couldn't quite see

[tropic urchin]

But the marbly clack church doesn’t discriminate

[tropic urchin]

Might be his Maya x

[cyan lark]

Yeah Baya

[humble surge]

gotcha

[tropic urchin]

those jelly bean side buttons cannot
Hide from me

[humble surge]

That alone didn't tell me much, F1 V2 and even my Mercury has similar

[tropic urchin]

It does when I look over and see my Maya x

[cyan lark]

These are the first to rival KoM stability that I’ve tried which is nice to finally see

[tropic urchin]

If anything it’ll have slightly better top wobble since the box is reduced in surface area so there’s less space for it to move around

But largely the same top/bottom

[cyan lark]

Yeah I think you’re right

[calm pulsar]

Wooting x TTC KOM POM finally have a worthy opponent??

🤯

[cyan lark]

Bottom is solid for both

[polar girder]

How/why

[trail bane]

Idk i still don’t have them

[cyan lark]

Honestly I guess I was a holdout but for me yeah

[cyan lark]

Honestly it’s pretty similar in feel and stability, just a different sound

[polar girder]

Stability tho I guess

Right gotcha

Yeah seems like a side grade for me

[cyan lark]

But I’ve not used any that could rival the stability before so I couldn’t change out

[polar girder]

If you prefer the sound

Gotcha

[cyan lark]

Yeah that’s about my opinion right now, which is high praise

Now someone get me this stability and 4mm travel gg

[tropic urchin]

That’s because you can’t get tighter without running into the raptor v2 crunch, so we’re largely going to be running A/S combined until that changes for max stability

So it’s largely sound/feel above all with the same stability

[humble surge]

sure, want a side of "thock" with that Sir?

[tropic urchin]

Oh no

[cyan lark]

It will happen

I believe

All my demands are reasonable and patriotic

[humble surge]

Would be nice tbh, i have yet to try 4mm to begin with, might need to see first

[calm pulsar]

how/why

[tropic urchin]

alr bud

[humble surge]

but there are some caps i found that promise a more thocky experience, idk how true

[calm pulsar]

alr/bud

[cyan lark]

It's been a year since I used 4mm but that was the one downgrade I felt in moving from the Lekkers

[tropic urchin]

gotta go back to thocktok

[humble surge]

Maybe i should just get a small Tikken sample pack

[cyan lark]

Definitely excited to try out tikkens on the 60v2 to see what I've been missing in terms of travel

(I could go back to my lekkers but I only have this pair of ears...)

And ofc hobbled by wobble

[trail bane]

Constructively/understandingly

[tropic urchin]

fun to use, but once you get used to nice wobble, top wobble is a jumpscare

[sacred elm]

It's hard to go back to Tikkens after DCF, but if you like 4mm they're nice

[humble surge]

I don't really feel much wobble interestingly, and i don't find them loud by any means, i'm quite content with these stock switches.
But ofcourse as an enthusiast i need constant new toys to play with, see whats better or best :)

[cyan lark]

I'll give them a solid few days on the v2, can't hurt. I only swap out to the 60 on occasion anyway, no harm.

[cyan lark]

Enjoy what you enjoy my friend

Don't listen to these maniacs

[humble surge]

You couldn't have made a more awfully neutral answer

[cyan lark]

🤷 people get a bit bunched up over this stuff

Except for @tropic urchin he's very reasonable and calm

[humble surge]

I just shared how they feel TO ME, i didn't think it was more than that or requiring defence or anything lol

[cyan lark]

I'm... agreeing with you

[humble surge]

If you knew me you would know by now that just because people scream one thing, i will have my own judgement and thoughts about things (especially like to figure things out myself when and where i can).

[cyan lark]

I guess?

[humble surge]

(in other words, don't care what others think)

[tropic urchin]

I went from not liking them into liking them more than I anticipated, so you are correct, reasonable and calm

[humble surge]

Flux is a good example of overhyped, but i get the feeling it's somewhat justified, but i won't parrot it until i have tried.

[robust siren]

dcf

[tropic urchin]

id argue no, bc you couldn't recommend them without someone asking and you had to go thru 2-3 different qualifiers to even really talk about them

[humble surge]

What do you mean?

[cyan lark]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As a KoM enjoyer for a year or so these scratch the same itch in a different way.

[tropic urchin]

nobody tried them back when they launched due to price and overblown QC issues, so now that the price is in line with POM, you're seeing a massive wave of interest because of that

[cyan lark]

Oh yeah at $2 a pop they'd have to do my taxes for me

[humble surge]

I still think what i said is accurate, it doesn't make it less of potentially good switch

but again, i can say with more certainty when i tried, i don't see a point to parrot it just because a higher amount of people like it versus another switch

[cyan lark]

I don't think people should give opinions on products they haven't tried either, but that doesn't stop a lot of people in here

[calm pulsar]

raeds better

[humble surge]

It's a current popularity winner, a year or two from now we will have yet another different itch scratch

[humble surge]

Thats no problem, everybody does it all over the internet, i was just more pointing out how i do it.

There are several things you can't just try out, so the closest you can get is trying to gather all the material on it available from others, and even that isn't always enough.

[tropic urchin]

Now get cerakeys unc

[humble surge]

It becomes a problem when people feel it's more convenient to go with what others say or what seems more favorable by whatever standards they face it against, rather than actually spending the time to thoroughly look into the subject.

[calm pulsar]

I would buy raeds before I buy cerakey

[humble surge]

awekeys promises that they make it thocky, i think cera claims are similar?
unsure, but i'm actually looking to get one or the other very soon

[cyan lark]

Gotta find people whose opinions generally align with your own, or whose opinion you trust.

[humble surge]

See no, you need to find opinions that are accurate and supported.
But yes, many of us decide to trust/favor someone we know, wether thats good or not.

Unless the objective is just to "fit in".

[cyan lark]

What about when it's subjective?

[humble surge]

In those cases you respect individuals, not much else you can do

[cyan lark]

😌

[thorn yew]

Yeah I saw this one aswell but I also did some research on the database switches and these are compatible aswell

[tropic urchin]

if you're buying from milktooth id consider TTC POM, Owlab ti he, HMX Crystal HE or gamer fuel as those are going to be better stability and newer overall switches from the ones you listed

[humble surge]

Funny you had to ask that one tbh, should be quite obvious

[thorn yew]

Yeah they are from milktooth

[tropic urchin]

WS dashes are basically old jade recolor, Jade ruby is a jade pro recolor, Green Dragon a recolor of the Jade Gaming, so id opt for one of the ones above over those

[thorn yew]

Ohhhhhh

What about the tikkens?

[tropic urchin]

Tikkens are good

[cyan lark]

Not on the list but TTC POMs are on Milktooth and are one of my favorites

[humble surge]

How are those Turing, since you said they were your favorite until now? anything in detail you can share?

[cyan lark]

Owlabs are a great budget option

They're just very good for stability, that's the main draw

Also the OGs (what I was using) look excellent in their red and purple drip (nobody agrees w/ me on this fact)

[humble surge]

I could

(because i happen to like those colors)

How about the sound and feel?

[thorn yew]

There's so many switches I don't know which ones to get

[humble surge]

I have about 5 of them on my list, the biggest issue is prioritizing which to get first :D

[tropic urchin]

to make a new switch list id say probably TTC POM, HMX Crystal HE/Gamer Fuel, owlabs if going by milktooth

[humble surge]

But i think i approached it optimally, went with the most expensive first

[calm pulsar]

waiting for sugar free red bull switch

[sacred elm]

I wouldn't recommend getting TTC switches if you're not going to hand lube and even then they don't sound as good as other options in the database

[cyan lark]

Ah that's a fair point, TTC go in dry

[thorn yew]

I'm not gonna lube

Bro I'm sleepy

Long day

[humble surge]

@cyan lark Sir?

#🔧│keyboard_modding message****

[cyan lark]

Sorry I'm relaxing, check out Sno's recordings. They're better anyway.

He just put up POM recordings today or yesterday

[humble surge]

I was just curious on your experience, thats all

[thorn yew]

What list?

[cyan lark]

Clacky and mid-pitched

[humble surge]

A list of switches that i have made for myself based on what i find likely to be good for me

[thorn yew]

Oh cool

[sacred elm]

You can't go wrong with any of these. Owlab Ti/Duhuk Herz are loud and clacky, Flux DC, Tikken and UR Ice Ultra have deeper sound profile.

[thorn yew]

I want something like a creamy switch

[cyan lark]

I personally prefer the sound of the likes of the Owlab Tis

[humble surge]

It's all made up of mostly relatively recent switches, observed conversations and data for several months now (mostly here, but on other platforms aswell).
So i think i made it thorough as i can.

[cyan lark]

Or jade pros

[tropic urchin]

you'd have to go MX for that

[humble surge]

But there are some candidates that we don't know much about, so i opted to try them myself.

[sacred elm]

I don't know what's creamy, if you like Jade sound profile, you'll like Flux DC.

[humble surge]

I see, and the feel was similar to DCF you said? (not sure how that is exactly)

[cyan lark]

DCF sounds different, lower, but still in the same general ball park

[humble surge]

feel, not sound

[cyan lark]

Feels like I'm taking the SATs again

They feel similar to KoM

[thorn yew]

120 euros for 70 switches????

[sacred elm]

No, they're a lot cheaper on AliExpress

[humble surge]

I mean you said it was your favorite, i wanted to understand what that experience means, sorry that you can't give an answer is very detailed lol.

[cyan lark]

Sorry I'm just playing a game to chill and try these out

[humble surge]

I was curious to know so i get +1 perspective, so to see if those switches worth my time or not.

[thorn yew]

I'm not buying them from AliExpress

[tropic urchin]

HMX Crystal HE or tikkens imo

or POM

[humble surge]

I'm also ingame and was paying attention respectfully

[cyan lark]

Sorry I didn't mean to snap

[humble surge]

All g

[cyan lark]

If the wobbliness of Lekkers ever gets to you, I can say that they and the KoMs both fit the bill for solving that

[humble surge]

Maybe i ask it another day

[polar girder]

You tried tikkens?

[cyan lark]

But there's other recs on that image that I haven't tried yet

[cyan lark]

Nope, waiting for the 60v2 to try 'em out

[humble surge]

Hows the price if anything?

[cyan lark]

On which?

[humble surge]

TTC POM

[cyan lark]

Not sure right now, they're on milktooth and wooting sells their own variant

Used to be about a buck a pop

Imagine less now

[thorn yew]

I have a question if I get the tikkens can I put another type of foam in the case to make them more deep/thocky?

[humble surge]

okay thats totally doable

[cyan lark]

(Wooting's variant has a heaving spring FYI)

heavier*

[humble surge]

thank you man, sorry if it felt like an interview, i just intended it to be somewhat detailed so i understand and can form some opinion on them myself (needs more perspectives either way)

[tropic urchin]

You can swap your case foam if you want sure

[cyan lark]

All good!

[humble surge]

I can just try those too, just not sure how practical or clever to pay for everything, before i know what to roughly expect

[thorn yew]

What other type of foam can I put in the case?

Like can I order one or something?

[humble surge]

atleast when it would be number 6 on the list

[cyan lark]

Yeah ideally you could get a pack of a few of each, but that usually comes with a tax

[humble surge]

thats true, could just get a few

[tropic urchin]

There’s different kinds you can use, some ppl use Killmat which is a heavy duty dampener, poron foam, EPDM foam, polyfill etc

[cyan lark]

I think there's a site that specializes in selling small quantities of a lot of switches but you pay a premium. Someone more knowledgable might know the site I'm talking about - never used it myself and I forget the name 😕

[thorn yew]

Which one of those will give me a thocky sound?

[humble surge]

Essentially no problem, i bought UFOs and theres nothing more expensive (for now).
It's just more the principle of how to prioritize, what is clever to buy or not.
While i prefer testing things myself, i have some constraints aswell.

[cyan lark]

Oh dang UFOs 🙂 curious how they are

look wild

[humble surge]

I'm too

Initial price for 65 was insane, several times that of DCF (which was already the most expensive).
Thankfully found a much better listing with higher amount of pieces.
Still more expensive, but somewhat reasonable.
With the initial price, i would rather have bought another 80HE, no switches should be worth that much, unless they offered something cutting edge no others did before.

[stoic ocean]

Deep clacky and ufo is my opinion bro

[cyan lark]

Whose decision was it to make tomorrow Monday

unbelievable

[thorn zealot]

me so that usps can deliver my new pad tmr

[trail bane]

Gn

[stray tiger]

Feel like we need a new stem shape. Round, square and octagon are too played out.

Oh yeah this should do it.

[thorn zealot]

No way gateron is innovative enough to do some new and diff

Has to be ai

[mighty egret]

i mean theyve done new molds specific to HE

like orchids

those are housings that wouldnt work on mx

[pure dagger]

Has anyone tried the MMD Jiyoa C1 Magnetic switch? If so how does it feel?

[robust siren]

i have, its pretty smooth from my experience, sounds pretty good
def worth it for like <$30 for 70pc

[pure dagger]

Comparing it with the geon raw he which one did you like better? (This is if you have the geon raw he)

[robust siren]

raws are louder and have a stickyness on the top housing because of luve

c1s are lighter than 40g but have a higher initial force

[pure dagger]

Ah okay, have you experienced any problems with those two switches on the wooting keyboard?

[robust siren]

no
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[pure dagger]

Sounds good ty!

Yeah the c1 sounds way better tysm

[robust siren]

if you want to know other mods for this sound:

tofu60 redux + brass weight
wooting pc plate
friction fit(? i dont remember but it sounds clean compared to what id expect tray mount/screwed in to be)
pbt keycaps

[humble surge]

Was gonna link you 4 others who are confirmed owners, 2 of which made videos to help you learn more, but got timed out for 10 minutes (i guess 4 message links are too much).
Anyway Gore covered it mostly, they seem to be excellent switches and cheap.
Here is a link to get them if you need: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009729352804.html

[next sequoia]

hi, can the tofu60 redux case fit the 60he+? all i see are 60he no +

[pure dagger]

tysm havent done any mods to my wooting60he+ yet but now i will

[pure dagger]

Thank you!

[robust siren]

yes

[next sequoia]

do i needa buy the fr4 or carbon fiber ansi plate

[robust siren]

no but you can if you want, it just provides a different sound profile

[next sequoia]

ohh

cus it just says add compatible plate

so i thought i needed that

[robust siren]

do you have the 60he+ prebuilt?

or a module

[next sequoia]

yeah its stock besides some keycaps

the normal kb

[robust siren]

ah okay

[next sequoia]

stock switches

[robust siren]

id suggest picking one of those up if you want a better sound but then youd also need stabilizers i think…

[next sequoia]

o

[robust siren]

steel plate doesnt sound all too good

[next sequoia]

personally the sound doesnt matter that much bc my headphones drown out the sound of the keyboard anyway lol

[robust siren]

ah okay then yeah you dont need to get it

[next sequoia]

alright

[robust siren]

you can get the brass bar if you want some extra weight and to fill out the hole in the case for it

[next sequoia]

theres also the foam

[robust siren]

it comes with foam or you can use the one from your wooting

[next sequoia]

interesting

thanks man

!

[thorn yew]

Oh we were talking about putting different foam in the case not switches

Hey guys

Just woke up

[robust siren]

idk what the convo was about but smth smth case foam and max thock is probably kilmat

[thorn yew]

Oh I was talking about putting a 3rd party switch in my new 60 HE v2 build and a lot of people recommended the lekker tikkens so I was like can I put different case foam to get a thocky sound with the tikkens? That was the convo

So you recommend kilmat?

[robust siren]

tbh i havent heard many sound recordings with people using kilmat

[thorn yew]

Oh

I remember seeing a video of Squashy Boy modding a 60 HE and he put like a car noise dampener foam and it sounded pretty thocky

But he pressed it with a WD40 can to even it out

Don’t know if that works

But if you haven’t heard many sound recordings with people using kilmat then what did they use?

[paper bloom]

im p sure its EDPM foam

material

When squashy boy did it

[paper bloom]

Most of the time its EDPM foam or some other foam from the case

[robust siren]

most people just use foam

or polyfil

[paper bloom]

Some people use diff mods as well and allat

[thorn yew]

So basically just use the foam from the case

[tall hollow]

Thoccc

[cloud crane]

I hope one day we can achieve HMX level clack in hall effect switches 🙏

[tall hollow]

I think I've gotten pretty close to that kind of sound

Maybe not exact, but pretty close

[cloud crane]

Hit me up with your soundtest 👀

[tall hollow]

Recently swapped to the tikken switches.

[cursive basin]

Is it possible to 3d print a strap clip for an 80he?

[cursive basin]

What did u switch from?

[thorn yew]

Nice build

[tall hollow]

TTC KOM

[tall hollow]

Thanks!

[cursive basin]

Is it better?

[cursive basin]

Is it better?

[tall hollow]

Tikkens are better than KOMs in my opinion but both are pretty amazing switches

[cursive basin]

Tikkens cheaper

[tall hollow]

Yee

And they're nice

[fallen pecan]

Just got in:

Jade Ultras - might just replace my entire board with this, cheaper Sparks

Kailh Ice Creams - base too thicc, couldn’t comfortably fit in my steel plate without pushing really hard

Xvx snow steps - Not as clean as raeds, very very scratchy

[ornate grove]

if one uses:
wooting dye-sub PBT keycaps + raptors he v2 switches + some plastic case

would it be clacky or thocky

[ionic breach]

what would be thocky to u?

[ornate grove]

thocky is like a deep sound i think, i don't want it

i want a somewhat high pitch but not too high

idk how to explain it

i don't want it too metal sounding

[ionic breach]

https://youtu.be/bF7TELBSyWc?t=196

inbedded ads

its the right timestamp now

[ornate grove]

oh yeah also does most of the sound come from the switches?

like is that the most impactful to the sound

[ionic breach]

id say its a big contributor

maybe plate matters more

but idk, i never personally experimented

[robust siren]

plates are important

[ornate grove]

i've been thinking about ABS keycaps cause i thought PBT sounds thocky

but idk how true that is

[robust siren]

#1436013386855874631 message

[ionic breach]

id say change plates first

[robust siren]

pbt will sound deeper than abs

[sacred elm]

Then probably better to get Owlab Ti, Raptors sound flat

[robust siren]

i have a recording of both abs and pbt keycaps in the link i just sent

as well as different plates

[ionic breach]

https://deltakeyco.com/en-sg/products/gmk-pompei-group-buy

ngl even after being hyped for this set for months, im going to skip it cos no deskmats or nice artisans lol

[robust siren]

i should get my soju deskmat sometime

[ionic breach]

u wont lets be real

[robust siren]

yeah

[ionic breach]

i think i got so petty over deskpad shipping cost that i spent 3 hours during my internship going to the warehouse to pick it up myself

and it was free shipping lol

idk why i did that

[robust siren]

though… pbtfan calkis 👀
maybe if i found them before sojus or wanted another pbt set…

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmm-hmm-hmmm-hm-gif-14945513074205587169

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[ornate grove]

where is the ABS one there

[robust siren]

KeyKoBo Soju are ABS (white + blue)

[soft epoch]

This looks rlly nice!

[ionic breach]

base + lava lake (roman num stripe) is what i would have gotten

[soft epoch]

💯 this!
Would have gone with this set myself if I did not have gmk dots that I am using rn

[ionic breach]

i literary have a matching deskpad for every keycaps set

so this not having one is so sad lol

[soft epoch]

Keep it simple, go glasspad instead

[ionic breach]

nuh uh

[robust siren]

get a matching glass pad with the deskpad that goes with the keycaps

[ionic breach]

but symmetry

if they made a deskpad size glasspad tho

[ionic breach]

wait, a church tinted glass style glasspad would go hard

[robust siren]

you should start a glass pad company that does custom prints

[soft epoch]

So this?

[robust siren]

just imagine the profit from goonerpads

[ionic breach]

nah like translucent

this but glass and see thru

[soft epoch]

Ngl, that could be cool

[robust siren]

what butterfly knife is that

trainer(?)

[soft epoch]

Need it to be made with Phantom properties if so

[soft epoch]

Krake raken, though I changed the blade. So its a Hydra kraken

[ionic breach]

ill start sending pics of what they bought with their invoice

which i know their parents will be the one seeing

https://tenor.com/view/i-m-villain-gif-8105801559398118233

[robust siren]

i have the glidr original 4 but i need to get new hardware for it

[soft epoch]

Nabalis Hydra blade on it now, not sharpened. I like my fingers 😂

[soft epoch]

Looking good!

[robust siren]

its got 2 decent sized corner dents on one of the handles 😅

[soft epoch]

Been considering ordering a handle inba different color, they would sadly not sell me one with different colors when I bought it

[robust siren]

its been so long since ive looked at balis, i havent really bothered learning many tricks a few months after i initially got it

[soft epoch]

I just fidget with mine, nothing crazy

[robust siren]

yeah same

thumb rollover goes in the hall of fame

i cant get the 8 roll down for the life of me

or is it called behind the 8 ball..

smth along the lines

[soft epoch]

Had to look it up, thats wild

[robust siren]

[soft epoch]

Dream bfk would be acidwrx zzyzx
That one looks insanely good and sounds awesome! @robust siren

[robust siren]

what a name

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[soft epoch]

Last one

https://youtube.com/shorts/rAcYINrcZ6k?si=usbH_0agVzyn2R2m

[robust siren]

what a unique sound

my original 4 has really really really bad play on the safe handle and it sounds so bad 😭

i just never got around to replacing the hardware

[soft epoch]

I need to change my hardware too, screws are getting worn out

[robust siren]

tbh it needs a full service

ive kinda just been using it as is since i got it

[soft epoch]

Been considering ordering Gravastar Ufo switches
Though not sure if its rlly worth the upgrade over what I am currently using, Owlab Ti switches

[peak breach]

But why

[thorn yew]

Guys I have come up with something. With the people I was talking earlier about switches and stuff what are the best 5 switches for the wooting 60 HE v2 so I can get all 5 of them and compare then so I can pick what I like

A few people told me about the tikkens and the Owlab ti he switches

Oh yeah and the HMX Crystal HE aswell

[thorn yew]

Dang I keep forgetting about this

[ionic breach]

lowkey a lot of them are good

[thorn yew]

Sorry

[ionic breach]

just difference in pricing

[thorn yew]

I keep forgetting this exists

Thanks @ionic breach

Is there a website I can get samples of them?

Not samples but like 10 switches of each

Or get some from separate websites

Cause I know the tikkens come in 70 or 90 pieces

Not less

[peak breach]

Well you get 10 heavy tikkens for beeing part of the founders campaign

[ionic breach]

most should

[peak breach]

I think it’s 10

[ionic breach]

just wooting dont

i think they want to? but not sure when

[thorn yew]

Oh really?

[ionic breach]

20

100g

[peak breach]

Yeah, special edition

[thorn yew]

Oh the yellow and purple ones?

[ionic breach]

ye

[thorn yew]

They’re tikkens but they are a recolor?

[ionic breach]

ye

[thorn yew]

I mean are they different from the normal ones?

[ionic breach]

but heavy press

[thorn yew]

Oh ok

So maybe except the tikkens I get a few other switches to try them out

[soft epoch]

Nice tock sound and stemwobble is said to be even less than owlab ti

[robust siren]

my favorite so far that ive tried are the WS Flux Deep Clackys but theres a new Gravastar UFO switch thats been released recently

[soft epoch]

Ws flux sounded nice too

[soft epoch]

This video has a sound comparison between them

https://youtu.be/vE-QpR_Dps4?si=SXD2moJOpzZX-w4H

[sacred elm]

mmm yes, can't wait to open them with a screwdriver

definitely worth 150 bucks

[soft epoch]

My owlab ti costed me more, lol

[thorn yew]

Oh yeah I saw them too

[soft epoch]

Though I had them hand lubed too

[robust siren]

wtf

[sacred elm]

🤨

[thorn yew]

I’m not sure if they’re compatible

[sacred elm]

They're compatible

[robust siren]

they both are

[soft epoch]

Shipping overseas and import taxes adds up

[sacred elm]

Otherwise they wouldn't be on the recommended switch chart

[robust siren]

no local vendors?

[soft epoch]

Best would be maxgaming, which is located in Sweden
I am in Norway

[thorn yew]

Ok thanks guys

[soft epoch]

Though, they dont get everything in

[robust siren]

btw dont buy fluxes from the offical website, theyre quite expensive there

Wuque Studio WS Flux (Deep Clacky)

• MMD Ainy https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702555279.html
• XIYOU https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809845800846.html
• MMD Global https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809702227830.html
• GGBOY https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809841751975.html
• Cherry Switch Store https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010215900173.html
• The Powerpuff Girls Switch Store https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010195147759.html
• TorontoKeyboardMan https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wuque-stuido-ws-flux-he-magnetic-switch?_pos=1&_sid=d7ea704e2&_ss=r&variant=44861454024899 (Make sure to select Flux Deep Clacky)

[glacial wind]

that sound test for those gravastar switches sound very scuffed

[distant raven]

deepclux cult alert 😛

[glacial wind]

something is not right there, because the deep clack switches already sound weird in the comparison

i don't know what mic they use but something is scuffed in those sound tests

[sacred elm]

Yeah, after listening to polar pro sound test, I'm not trusting that person anymore lol

[distant raven]

I also tend not to trust someone whose answer to every switch question, no matter which criteria is asked for is "buy deepclack flux" 😛

[thorn yew]

Yeah I saw them yesterday

120 euros

[potent tundra]

lekker tikken or owlab ti for thock

[sacred elm]

Are you talking about me or what's going on here lol

[distant raven]

Anyone: "what switch should I b....

...Gore | GT-60 DCF Enjoyer is typing

"Deepclack Flux"

[thorn yew]

But buying them from AliExpress seems like they’re fake

[distant raven]

I'm yanking Gore's chain

[robust siren]

i got mine and a few others have bought them from aliexpress

[glacial wind]

whatever recording setup they're using isn't close to real audio at all, because those deep clack sample sections in that video sound nothing close to deep clack flux

[sacred elm]

I mean he's recommending his favorite switch, which has one of the best stability and a great sound on top of that, so I see nothing wrong there

[robust siren]

not everything on aliexpress is fake as like not everything on amazon is real

[distant raven]

it's an ongoing tease shafie 😛

[soft epoch]

Good info to know!

[thorn yew]

And they were the originals?

[robust siren]

comparing mine to sound tests ive heard from others, they all seem about the same so id say they are

[sacred elm]

Buying switches on AliExpress is completely fine, as long as you get them from a reputable seller.

I got them from Wuque and AliExpress, they're identical.

[distant raven]

the torontokeyboardman is totally legit though

takes worry out of it if you are not solid on alix

[sacred elm]

Yes, but it's out of stock iirc

[distant raven]

ah, hadn't checked stock

nah it's in stock

[thorn yew]

Are all these the sellers?

[distant raven]

A clacky in stock
B thocky not in stock

[sacred elm]

Yeah, it's out of stock

Clacky is different

[robust siren]

theyre the ones with the best prices though i havent checked for any more stores in the past week

[distant raven]

so "Deep Clack Flux" = "B Thocky Version" and not "A Clacky Version"

LOL That's a rough item description if that's the case

[glacial wind]

gravastar ufo switch i think can never be on the recommend list if it requires hand lubing though, not as long as they can't be opened by a normal switch opener

[distant raven]

oof, that's rough

[glacial wind]

i'll have to see how their stock lube is though

but not being able to open the switch without screwdriver type methods is not great

[thorn yew]

Oh okay

Which one do you recommend?

[robust siren]

i bought my switches from ggboy, powerpuff girl store seem to have the best prices rn cheery switch store does actually

[distant raven]

powerpuff girl store on alixpress

what could go wrong?

[potent tundra]

Guys should i get the lekker tikkens and tofu 60 redux for my stock 60he and will it improve sound? Also will a different plate make a difference

[distant raven]

plates definitely change sound

(and feel)

[potent tundra]

what plate is good for lekker tilkens

[distant raven]

plate material choice is highly subjective
depends on what sound and feel you want
I only have experience with 80HE Zinc case with polycarbonate and FR4 plate and for my ears and fingers, I liked FR4.

can't tell you what material is best for your fingers/ears on 60HE. Others might know more.

[sacred elm]

Yes, if you're using a stock 60HE now, getting Tikkens, Tofu60 and a different plate such as FR4, will make a huge difference.

[distant raven]

subjectively, I really liked FR4 for me.

[thorn yew]

So I guess I’ll get them from ggboy

[sacred elm]

Also I'd recommend getting a friction fit pad from Wooting.

[potent tundra]

The plates are really expensive like 20 dollars so should I get carbon fiber or fr4 or polycarbonate for like a more thocky and creamy sound

[robust siren]

wooting pc plate

[potent tundra]

I'm already stretching my budget with a plate i can't get a friction pad

[distant raven]

polycarbonate plate is going to be more muted but a bit less stiff
FR4 plate is going to be more live/bright but also stiffer
have no experience with carbon fiber plates, but based on the construction, it's going to be less dense than FR4 but still stiff, so will probably sound even brighter

[potent tundra]

So polycarbonate plate, tofu redux and lekker tikkens is good?

[sacred elm]

Solid

[potent tundra]

How long will this take to mod

From my stock kb

And how hard will it be cuz this is my 1st time

[distant raven]

it's pretty easy
open case
remove keycaps
remove board/plate
dismount plate from board
remove switches
Put switches onto new plate
mount new plate to board
put board/plate into case
replace keycaps
Close it up.

THere's videos.

[robust siren]

first time took me about 2 hours

i did case, stabilizers, plate, switches, keycaps

now its max like 30 minutes

[robust siren]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1436013386855874631 <- different plate sound tests

[distant raven]

if you're not needing to lube switches (which with tikkens you do not) then it's just some stabilizer lube MAYBE

so that makes it much faster

[potent tundra]

omg bro i can't afford all this extra stuff

[distant raven]

hehe just save up and mod later then 🙂

[potent tundra]

Won't not lubing be fine

[robust siren]

im just giving a rough idea of what different plates sound like

[distant raven]

tikkens are prelubed nicely

[potent tundra]

No not u

[sacred elm]

Follow these guides:

https://youtu.be/XkosHUBUrdI
https://youtu.be/8zBsNi81MHA

[potent tundra]

Ok i will follow this

When i get the parts

[robust siren]

its be funny if you got muted again for this

[distant raven]

lol muted for posting wooting youtube links

[robust siren]

automod strikes again

[soft epoch]

Did not know about automod muting yt links, lol

[robust siren]

last time shafie got automodded for posting a wooting link

im sure if you spam enough links youd get automodded

[little glen]

I got automodded for linking 4 sets of keycaps in one message

[robust siren]

meanwhile me with my 6 aliexpress links:

[cyan lark]

I hope you’ve learned your lesson

[little glen]

Lesson learned: dont help people asking for keycap recommendations

[austere creek]

no you got automodded for posting more than 2 links without any text inbetween just as a cluster of links.

turns out bots really like to do that to post scam images

[little glen]

I‘m a bot

[austere creek]

no but we arent gonna invest many resources when usually no one really posts links in that manner so this is the most effective way to block bots from spamming crap in the discord server

[little glen]

Yeah fair

[austere creek]

i really wish we didnt have to tbh cause it really sucks with some rules being quite complex and sometimes catching normal users as strays

[little glen]

Well lets just say

Ive seen worse

Once i got muted for saying good night

Now you figure out what triggered that automod

[cyan lark]

https://xkcd.com/1171/

xkcd: Perl Problems

To generate #1 albums, 'jay --help' recommends the -z flag.

[austere creek]

i think we even tried to just block the scam links they usually use until they used normal image hosts like imgur and such so we couldnt really block them efficiently anymore

[austere creek]

the nig part of night?

[little glen]

[austere creek]

maybe we should return to teamspeak3 and forums

man i miss forums

[cyan lark]

I still find forums to be best

[austere creek]

same. i actually run a private forum where i just post my own thoughts on games, series, mangas and such. and one day i might make it publicly accessible idk

[final goblet]

aliexpress?

[calm pulsar]

@tropic urchin @sacred elm I have some big news

duhuks were finally destroyed because I didnt pick them up from post office

[chilly mural]

Rest in peace

[tropic urchin]

Nothing of value lost

[chilly mural]

Akhtualy, at least $30

[tropic urchin]

Clearly not valued by Mr arc

No military grade pineapple juice to go around

[calm pulsar]

actually it's Wang Lo Kat tea is where im at now

[glacial wind]

it's all about matcha now if you want to be on trend. Time to start ordering your own matcha and buy one of those $50 matcha kits with the bowl and wisk

also a double walled clear glass to display the matcha while drinking

[tropic urchin]

You had me at tren

[calm pulsar]

to top the trend off you should drink it outside while reading a book about women's health

[tropic urchin]

It should be a book off booktok

[glacial wind]

if you really want to get fancy you'll also want a glass straw

[tropic urchin]

There’s only paper straws here

Hope that’s okay

[trail bane]

Penguin ones or pink?

[calm pulsar]

🐧

[trail bane]

Sad kinda

No rawhuks build by unc arc

[chilly mural]

Japanese manga better to flex on your reading skill

[glacial wind]

I'd recommend the jun 415 glass from heriter. Then you can add korean inspired design into your trend collection for the true exodia comp: https://heriter.global/category/jun/87/

[calm pulsar]

tbh astrolinks are all I need right now
they are the perfect jade knights I could never achieve at the time

[tropic urchin]

Now get a copper plate unc

[trail bane]

Oh actually, i’m now looking at copper raeds build

[tropic urchin]

Jumpscare

[trail bane]

Idk should I

[chilly mural]

Gonna add this to my list

[calm pulsar]

raeds might cancel out any plate material

raw unrefined thocc

[tropic urchin]

Might?

[trail bane]

EC Wootahh

[calm pulsar]

these look kinda small, not enough to flex matcha

[glacial wind]

I lead by example

[calm pulsar]

for conventional tea it looks very nice

[glacial wind]

the big size is pretty decent sized, 415ml

they actually have a 500ml one but i don't like the design as much

[potent tundra]

guys why does my wooting sound so much worse than the videos im seeing on youtube? they both are stock keyboards

[tropic urchin]

There’s 5-10 variables that go into sound tests and 99.5% of them are all using different variables so they’re rather not useful in comparing to your irl setup

It’ll be easier to see what you don’t like and then modding it to something different

[potent tundra]

if i wanna buy the lekker tikken switches, will the be available in physical stores in japan? i heard that some resellers are there

[paper bison]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[potent tundra]

thx

[tropic urchin]

In America atleast physical stores largely aren’t a thing outside of the big box retailers (best buy etc), never been to Japan so can’t comment

Easiest I’d imagine is just ordering from Wooting directly

[tropic urchin]

New switches and a new switch plate (assuming you have a steel plate) would be an easy way to improve your stock keyboard feel/sound

[paper bison]

what keyboard is it you have stock

[potent tundra]

i know this isnt related, but do you think a tofu 60 redux case is available in physical retailers sorry if its annoying you

[potent tundra]

60he

[tropic urchin]

Probably not, but eBay or online etailing would be your best bet depending on where you live

[paper bison]

yeah the og 60he sounded kinda meh stock, you can get a better sound easily with a different switch plate, different switches and maybe a better case

[potent tundra]

ok thanks

[tropic urchin]

The thing is this hobby is a small niche, so you have to know where to look

[glacial wind]

Because probably 9/10 sound tests on YouTube are done improperly and have heavy proximity effect - which makes keyboards sound way thockier

[paper bison]

and recorded on a high end microphone likely in a sound treated space

[potent tundra]

the other keys arent horrid but i absolutely hate the space bar and other keys like enter and shift

[paper bison]

yeah you might wanna relube or get different stabilisers, and a different material switch plate

[glacial wind]

whenever you hear that very thocky deep reverb sound you can basically immediately guess that the sound test was done incorrect with he boards. It’s very prominent in a lot of soundtests

[potent tundra]

oh ok

[potent tundra]

i was already asking before, most people just said to switch my plate case and switches

[paper bison]

they’re cheap and easy ways to improve it

[potent tundra]

since my budget isnt too high

[tropic urchin]

In general yes, but stock stabilizer RNG is a thing so maybe you didn’t get a good unit for that and will need to be wire balanced/lubed

[paper bison]

who did the sound test for the v2

[potent tundra]

i would do all of this stuff but everything is so expensive i spent my entire budget on just switches plates case which when i asked like a few hours before seemed like the main thing

[tropic urchin]

Out of curiosity how much are knight v4 stabs where you live

[paper bison]

wouldn’t stab choice depend which version of the 60 they have? some were only compatible with plate mount stabs no?

[potent tundra]

they are like 20 dollars ( shipping probably will make it 50 ) but they are all sold out

[tropic urchin]

Where was that updated sheet

[tropic urchin]

Eek

[tropic urchin]

I’d get some krytox 205g and a wire balancing station when you can, new stabs aren’t required, some just require more work than others depending on luck

If you already spent your budget I’d just wait until you can

[potent tundra]

what do stabilisers do btw?

stabilise the switch?

[tropic urchin]

Supports your spacebar, enter, backspace and shift keys

[potent tundra]

so what does lubing them do

[tropic urchin]

Eliminates any ticking sounds and tuning them eliminates any metallic rattle you might get if your stabs are kinda mid sounding

Which seemed like was happening to you atleast partially

[potent tundra]

I think mainly its the spacebar because it sounds the worst

like a ping

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[cyan lark]

Here, you can hear the difference different levels of lube have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAW_vD0BzgM

[tropic urchin]

If it isn’t metallic sounding then you probably just need more lube on the wire, if it’s very metallic sounding then your wire isn’t perfectly flat

[paper bison]

what oil are yall using the bag lube springs

might bag lube some of my dcf to see the difference

[cyan lark]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UKUHXK?th=1

[paper bison]

damn you had that READY

[tropic urchin]

Super lube is pretty good

[paper bison]

thanks

just ordered some

[cyan lark]

Browser history -> super lube
It gets asked frequently enough 🙂

[tropic urchin]

I’d lube your bottom housing rails/maybe top housing and bag lube and you should be good

Stem doesn’t need any attention, a little in the housing and spring should be good

[paper bison]

i’ve got plenty 205g0, just never bag lubed before, decided to try some of the dcf and see if it’s worth doing the whole set

[tropic urchin]

If you like poppy switches I recommend it

[paper bison]

didn’t make much of a difference to the owlabs

[paper bison]

yeah that’s what i’m going for, something different than my owlabs i’ve been maining

[soft epoch]

Wdm?

[lusty river]

If you swap your switches for ones with a shorter total travel than 4.0 mm, the actuation point shown in wootility will be inaccurate, right? for example, if it shows “1.0 mm,” it’s actually more like 0.825 mm in reality? (since my switches only have 3.3 mm total travel)

[tropic urchin]

It’s calculated off a percentage atm, but it should be more ‘accurate’ visually once the specific switches get added to the switch selector sometime soon

@glacial wind without the risk of angering our beloved Simon, do you happen to know how soon is soon.tm for Switchy selector

[lusty river]

I see, so if I have my keys set 1mm acutation point, its lower in reality right?

[ionic sapphire]

the next gen is keycapsless, and it's just sensors

[glacial wind]

extremely soon

[ionic sapphire]

no travel time

just fingering

[fringe quarry]

10

9

8

...

[tropic urchin]

It should be the equivalent, but it just appears wrong since it just shows a 4mm lekker instead of your switch, but it should be more dynamic when the selector is live

[glacial wind]

keep an eye on the beta software info in the near future. There's also accuracy reading updates among other things coming, but not sure if they can make it to this first beta build in time

[final goblet]

Kan du inte köpa från aliexpress

[lusty river]

alright, thank you – looking forward to the switch selector 🙏

[tropic urchin]

Same

[glacial wind]

by the way, what are everyone's thoughts here on symbol mods/non alpha keys vs. written legends

we're considering whether we prefer icons vs written legends for some future kits, so taking all opinions into consideration

[ionic breach]

switch selector and background service beta is next update

which is this week or next week if delayed

[tropic urchin]

I think I’m team symbols for mod keys (with novelties) and written without novelties

[tropic urchin]

W

[ionic breach]

icons probably by a bit

esp if theres no novelties

[cyan lark]

Written legends for me

[ionic breach]

the wooting ... spacebar aint for me tho

[ionic breach]

it just throws me off

[cyan lark]

Though if I can throw a curveball, written + symbol is really my preferred

[ionic breach]

i really like blank spacebars

[glossy pagoda]

Solution:

[ionic breach]

that one included lmao

just blank it

[ionic breach]

i think icons > combo > text for me

but its like barely and i fw everything

[glacial wind]

I’m a fan of icons personally because I use keyboards for both Mac and pc and I dislike having Mac legends when on pc and vice versa

[ionic breach]

yea lol

im using super with windows rn

[pale haven]

What's a good he switch that provides both sound and performance?

[cyan lark]

But what about command vs alt - symbols fail there as well 😄

[chilly mural]

Written legend

[glacial wind]

That’s what novelties are for

I have weird novelties that don’t make any sense for those

[tropic urchin]

Raptor v2, TTC POM, Owlab ti he, deep clack flux, tikkens etc depending on your budget/preference

[glacial wind]

Weird planet, cluster, 2 circles for my mods

[pale haven]

Thank you very much

[chilly mural]

Im okay with everything being blanks if there's nothing. Just remember which is which and I'll be fine

[tame garnet]

Does anyone happen to know the foam thickness that will fit under the PCB in a Holy60?

im assuming 1-2mm

[tropic urchin]

Take a look at the modding database as Sno has sound tests as well for most switches

[cyan lark]

Personally I just mentally map from alt -> command since that's what gets me app switch

[humble surge]

🛸

[cyan lark]

It is a shame that there's no perfect solution afaict for devs crossing the linux/macos boundary

[pale haven]

Oh wow mega helpful, appreciate it

[glacial wind]

one day when i move i'll have enough room for 2 desks then i won't have this issue

[ionic breach]

reminds me of the geistmachine one

https://en.zfrontier.com/products/pre-order-geistmaschine-tp-1-dieter-pbt-keycap-set?variant=50108320284987

[cyan lark]

Alternative suggestion: I got an L-shaped desk and have two setups at 90 degrees from each other

Might be a bit more space efficient depending on your need

[glacial wind]

yeah that's not bad either. I need bigger room for that too though as I can't fit anything bigger where i'm at now

but can't argue with dirt cheap rent and landlord that has barely raised rent in 10 years, especially in this economy

[humble surge]

For some reason i always found L shape to be impractical and wasteful.
I have tried it before and it just wasn't it for me :/

[glacial wind]

what would be true baller is a work desk with permanent top down camera setup

then never need to swap and setup camera for top down shots

[cyan lark]

🤷 I have a personal and work setup, can't overlap them at all

[humble surge]

Thats actually my dream, for the desk i build on, but it's not happening in this current flat thats for sure

[glacial wind]

2nd camera be pricy too, but that takes care of itself next year when i upgrade to whatever new fx3 v2 that sony releases

[ionic breach]

My table is just a lil too short for my 3d printer, which kinda sucks

[chilly mural]

fr I want this. Would be soo rad for rhythm game recording

[ionic breach]

lol same

[chilly mural]

or like if I wanna show somebody my hand cam when doing something like building lego

[ionic breach]

i would start streaming in studying and co working if i can have a good way to have a camera setyp

[humble surge]

I have two tables next to eachother, one is for the daily setup and the other is for assembly/repair work or just generally storage. But the biggest issue is not being able to dark the room out, hopefully i can solve this in the next flat.

[ionic breach]

i just have one real long table

[tawdry tree]

I’d love written without symbols at all but don’t think that’s very common 😭

[ionic breach]

thats kinda meant for two people

but its small

so like a lot of things just barely dont fit