🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

that means no v2 plates for you

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[robust siren]

at least module comes with fr4

[harsh dove]

[robust siren]

i need custom cf plate

and need it to not flop out of my gt60 case

[flat cobalt]

[robust siren]

dont pluh me nintendo cartridge boy

[tropic urchin]

@harsh dove its kinda like slam poppiness

[harsh dove]

I'm sorry what is slam poppy

[lusty river]

hey, I have a little question! I love the wooting and rapid trigger and low actuation are amazing and its way better than my old keyboard
But I miss the physical feel of my old corsair k70 rapidfire (MX Speed switches)
Is there a way to replicate that feel on the wooting, maybe with different switches or anything like that? Would love some advice! thanks!!

[tropic urchin]

ig kinda like loud/harsh poppiness

idk what else you'd describe it as

doesnt seem like poron did too much

sad day when you dont like the OGs anymore 🥀

[harsh dove]

Ah gotcha, yeah it is on the louder side

the power of CF

[harsh dove]

oh for the POM Fluxes?

[tropic urchin]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Damn

[tropic urchin]

DCF POM was interesting

just too quiet

[harsh dove]

Like too soft sounding or feeling?

[tropic urchin]

sounding the feel was cool

[harsh dove]

Ah okay gotcha

yeah I don't like when stuff is too soft/muted

[tropic urchin]

yeah I need to have some sort of feedback when playing or it feels off to me

the sound of typing on POM Flux isnt bad but I think ze ol reliables are too much now

yeah im going back

[flat cobalt]

Yeah the flux are really nice goodbye Jade Pros

[fluid ravine]

yesssirrrr

[sacred elm]

Try other switches with closed bottom, they'll feel and sound nicer than Lekkers. You probably don't like the open bottom of the Lekkers, closed bottom feels nicer.

Here are some recommended switches and their sound tests: https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[lusty river]

thank you so much!! are they all compatible with the wooting and also wootility etc?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[lusty river]

and do you know by any chance which one comes close to the mx speed ones?

[harsh dove]

looks like MX Speeds have about 3.4mm travel and 45gf actuation force so look for similar specs to that

[sacred elm]

Just pick any switch from the database with 3.5mm travel or less

If you can order from AliExpress, I'd recommend Wuque Flux "Deep Clacky", they're nice. Other options like UR Uce Ultra, Duhuk Herz, HMX Crystal are also good

[lusty river]

thank you so much for the advice! I really appreciate it

are the ones from aliexpress fine in quality? or are there any big known brands I can purchase from? or are these lesser known switches the way to go

[analog reef]

CF plate arrived today 👀

[sacred elm]

Safe to buy from AliExpress if the seller is reputable

[analog reef]

Ali express is go to for deep clacky — it’s super overpriced on WS store unfortunately :(

I’ve also heard good things about Duhuk herz

[sacred elm]

Yeah, they're like 50% off on AliExpress and the price isn't that crazy

[lusty river]

alright Ill look into them on aliexpress! :)

what are some favorite switches here? in general

or most used

[lusty river]

youre the best thank youuu 🙏 🙏

[tropic urchin]

I told you as a former jade pro enjoyer DCF is end game

[robust siren]

now that im home

i can show what i meant @glacial wind

this is how the gasket mount works in the gt60 and i wanted to know if the pcb was the same width

now that i look closer

the plate doesnt even touch the gaskets

@tropic urchin i might get away with using fr4 plate here

[tropic urchin]

you can use more than just the CF plate then?

[robust siren]

perhaps

ima take a shower rq

[tropic urchin]

thats something atleast

[robust siren]

cause ny crusty asf

[robust siren]

if i dont need the nubs on the plate

id rather not have then when i order the custom

cause ill never top mount it

[sacred elm]

You probably need them, without them PCB might just fall down and you don't want PCB to touch the case

[robust siren]

yeah thats what ima test in a bit

[robust siren]

pcb wont ever touch the case

im using poron under 3 layers of tape

hopefully it wont just

fall through the top lmao

but thats really only an issue if i flip it over sooo

[robust siren]

okay

it will fall out if i flip it upside down

cause the top part of the case only contacts those tabs on the plate

yeah ok

this isnt gonna work if i transport it

but im not doing that

soooo

WE ARE BUYING THE SPLIT 60HE v2

[distant raven]

a PCB for a split spacebar 80HE would be so cool

[tropic urchin]

wrong flair

[robust siren]

WE will not be switching it till the giveaway

[tropic urchin]

alr bud

@harsh dove instead of embracing OG flux, I have now fully used the foam from torontokeyboardman I feel gross

I have become the evil

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin i sure do hope this is neutral white based off what unikeys support told me

[harsh dove]

eww

jk how is it?

[tropic urchin]

It honestly fits the marbly clack build better I think

[harsh dove]

Awesome, nice

[tropic urchin]

with poron gasket its kinda shifty but I guess thats the price of salvation

I do wonder if its better to completely strip the silicone of everything but the gaskets and then transplant the poron everything

hm

[tropic urchin]

that looks kinda like the GT80 white tbh

[robust siren]

the tx switch puller strugges getting underneeth the top of the switch (where the rgb diffuser is)

at least on the kbdfans CF plate, idk if that matters or not

but its a struggle and a half pulling them out without taking the plate off the pcb

wait

its because theres a fucking bump on one of the sides on the puller

wtf

nvm thats not the issue

it literally just cnat get under the housing near the rgb diffuser

[young viper]

Eggshell white

[tropic urchin]

My opal is ready to ship W Carter

LFG

[cyan lark]

In Carter we trust 🙏

[calm pulsar]

LFG Strath undead orbs res rivendare mount res

[tropic urchin]

I need to run living for the neck quest

[hasty sandal]

can anyone recommend switches for wooting? i'm using lubed geon raws now but they have so much rattle and are scratchy, the bottom out sound is terrible also

[tropic urchin]

The real tech is SRing the ZG tiger mount

[tropic urchin]

I’d also take a look at the Wooting mod library, gives you an idea of how the switches sound

https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[hasty sandal]

thank you

[tall hollow]

what is ur recording setup with the switch sound tests?

[tropic urchin]

You’ll have to ask @glacial wind, I don’t run that operation

[tall hollow]

ah

[tropic urchin]

Just a humble marbly clack enthusiast and part time money spender

[analog reef]

[tropic urchin]

Ooo what switches you pairing with CF

Sounds nice

[analog reef]

I spring swapped some gateron jades for 40g springs instead

shockingly perfect save for the wobble issues

this is actually glorious

[floral summit]

https://www.keebzncables.com/collections/hall-effect/products/duhuk-key-hall-effect-he-magnetic-switch

are these the ones at the top of the sound test list or a different version?

Sound test says duhuk herz

[thorn zealot]

no the herz are pink

https://youtu.be/BupuZw3-T4I?si=jVCKH4tNVB2prZin

but they kinda basically the same

[floral summit]

Ok figured they might not be. Just saw these come up on sale at a local store to me in Australia and thought it seemed too good to be true lol

[tropic urchin]

I did something similar with 42.5g geon pingless for my Jade pros before jumping to TTC POM

[cyan lark]

Part time? 🤔

[analog reef]

Spacebar issue is fixed now too

[cyan lark]

I'mma need to speak to your CPA

[analog reef]

Compare to previous hack job

[tropic urchin]

Spending other peoples money is a part time hobby of mine

[cyan lark]

Depressingly true for me

[analog reef]

my wallet will never forgive you

[tropic urchin]

Well so here’s the thing, money will be spent, but the quality will be worth it

[analog reef]

TTC POM? is that the magneto switch that has the kinda ugly purple-red color scheme 😭

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[analog reef]

also a 35g actuation switch, I'd have to SS those too :(

[tropic urchin]

The only good 45g long spring switch unfortunately

Can’t spring swap Poms

[analog reef]

life ruined

[distant raven]

I did the wooting x ttc pom koms with the big springs.

[tropic urchin]

I guess not true on my part but you’d need to buy Wooting POM or raptor V2s to spring swap but not worth it at all

[distant raven]

not sure I'd want to pull them apart to swap springs if I already had 45g stuff

but buying new, seemed like 55g was the way to go

[tropic urchin]

If you don’t care about light springs 55g should be fine

Think tikken are similar and their springs felt decent

[analog reef]

light springs drive me insane 😭

I need a minimum of 40g for actuation or else I lose my marbles with how many errors I start to make

[tropic urchin]

Just raise your actuation or rapid trigger a bit

[distant raven]

given the rapid trigger and such, I think that I will benefit from heavier springs

yeah I have cherry MX red mechanicals on my existing mechanical, and they're just a little too light for me

and that's 45 g

[cyan lark]

Everyone's different. I prefer heavier for typing, bit lighter for gaming.

[distant raven]

well, if I hate them, then I can always change springs back to 45g springs

[analog reef]

it also just feels weird to me

I can't get used to light switches

I tried

I need a liiiiiiittle weight

[distant raven]

I mean, we're talking about a 10g difference, pretty minimal

I guess it's 18% though, so, noticeable

[analog reef]

I have a level of sensory sensitivity that my fellow autistic family members cannot comprehend

I feel everything, which is why I take modding switches so seriously qwq

even the slightest scratch bothers me to no end, which is why I love the good old standard jades so much despite their wobble -- the factory lubing is on point, to a degree that I couldn't even really quite replicate it when I tried (though I got close)

[robust siren]

i need to give away my sw knight v2 gold wire spacebar stab

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[analog reef]

these are the smoothest most comfortable switches I own, especially now that I SSd for 40g instead of the stock springs (felt so light I was losing it)

It feels like when you run your fingers through water when you've got them splayed and you can feel the turbulence as you move but it's light and smooth

[cyan lark]

Yeah this is the way to look at it.

[thorn zealot]

just oil up ur switches like i did #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[analog reef]

The CF plate feels awesome, also -- snappier than the stock POM, which I love

raw dogging that without gloves is the worst thing I think I've ever seen in my life

[analog reef]

D:

help, help! I'm getting bullied!

[thorn zealot]

then u havent seen much then

[polar girder]

Why

[analog reef]

I play the trombone :(

[cyan lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAW_vD0BzgM

[robust siren]

split spacebar v2

[cyan lark]

at around 5:40

[analog reef]

I'm going to cry

[cyan lark]

for the squish

[analog reef]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭

ooohhh those keycaps are gorgeous though

[thorn zealot]

not me in the clip but yk #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[analog reef]

what the fuck 😭 😂

[distant raven]

when you look up "horror show" "butterfly" this should be the #1 result

and that Mattie K.B. video is "switch" "horror show"

[young viper]

I'm debating on the knight stabs, how are they compared to the ones that come with the module?

[robust siren]

i have the prebuilt 60he+ which were plate mounted

i forgot if the 60he+ module came with plate or screw ins

[young viper]

Screw ins

Idk I'll try them when they get here and if not I'll buy those

[covert tulip]

Just got the 80he and first thing
I did was replace with knight v4s. I probably could have tuned the stock stabs to be better, but the knight v4s are just so easy. Very light lube is all I needed for perfect stabs.

[polar girder]

Ah fair

[robust siren]

i think they shouls be fine

but im gonna balance them anyways

[dry raft]

hi i want to change keycaps but is there a specific type of keycap i need to buy ? cause i like the ones the wooting come with feel good for ranked but i want to buy some customs or atleast with design

[distant raven]

The ones that come from wooting are an OEM Profile:

https://help.wooting.io/article/152-keycap-profiles-explained

well, some are cherry

depends which you selected

[dry raft]

i got 60 he+

[sacred elm]

These are different

[distant raven]

Unless you selected something different, those should be doubleshot PBT "just black" from wooting, which should be OEM profile.

[dry raft]

na i just went basic everythign didnt even customize it or change module or anything just went stock

[distant raven]

The only really important thing for you to do is to make sure you get the same stem attachment, that is going to look like a + sign

[dry raft]

im guessing this?

[distant raven]

yeah

As long as whatever you buy has the same + sign shape to match your switch, you're usually going to be okay.

You might have weird things happen if you get a really tall or really short profile.

do pay attention to whether you have ANSI or ISO layout, etc.

that does matter

[young viper]

Pft who needs keycaps and switches, just glue magnets to your fingers

[distant raven]

mf be hall effecting in the air Minority Report style.

"silent keys"

[young viper]

Lmaoo

Soon as my module gets here I'll test it lmao

[distant raven]

80HE tomorrow for me

[young viper]

Still waiting till mid November😭

Every other part is here

[distant raven]

I ordered case, module, switches, keys, lube, wrist pad all as one order but as a DIY assembly. It's all from Wooting, so it should come together.

[young viper]

Niceee

My tofu redux got here a few days ago, extremely nice case

The only thing I'm missing if the stuff from keebmat because I bought their tape mod and the actual module itself

[cyan lark]

The only sane thing I've seen in this Discord all day.

[young viper]

LMAOOO

[cyan lark]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[distant raven]

I'll say it again, mf be Minority Report air-pulling.

heh oscilloscoping the HE

[young viper]

😭

[cyan lark]

Someone had to do it

[distant raven]

+100 points for o-scope
-1,000 points for razer mouse
😄

[cyan lark]

The day I care about the opinions of random Discord users will be a dreary one ❤️

[distant raven]

heh

if it works and you like it, that's all that matters. I just tease.

[dusty bane]

I couldn't find the switches I bought in the switch database. I'd just like to report that the glorious panda silent tactile switches do function in the 80HE, as long as the firmware is updated. Wootility shows me getting the full 0-4mm travel as well.

[young viper]

Your mouse must be at most .0001 grams, be over 200 dollars and have a year long preorder to even be considered on this discord!

[distant raven]

Hold my lotitech g703 lightspeed with my powerplay recharge pad then...

it's not a cloud weight thing.

it's 95g oh the horror

[young viper]

My petite 60 gram super light 2

[distant raven]

meanwhile finalmouse doing absurd gross to clean 33g nonsense

[marsh saffron]

cant wait to make something like this

[cyan lark]

Does seem like a fun project

[marsh saffron]

gonna get myself a 3d printer in a few months

[cyan lark]

Very cool

Build some weird shit

[marsh saffron]

damn right

gonna make myself an arsenal of schizo mice

[distant raven]

I actually might get a logitech superlight 2 dex though.

[young viper]

That's the smaller version right?

[marsh saffron]

no the dex is the ergo

2c is the smaller one

[glacial wind]

It’s an isolated condenser mic on a separate mount for the audio, then a zve1 with whatever lens (usually 24-70) for video

[distant raven]

pro x superlight 2 se v. pro x superlight 2 dex is just ergo on the dex both for bigger hands and 60g
pro x superlight 2 c is the 51g compact
all 3 use the same sensors and work with powerplay (with an update) and powerplay 2

I have bigger hands and am going from a 95g g703 down to the 60g sl2 dex
So I'll be happy.

will go nicely with 80HE

[young viper]

Damn nice

[tall hollow]

nice

[tall hollow]

thoughts on the GPX 2 Superstrike?

[distant raven]

it's what I would have prefered

However, it's not compatible with powerplay and I LOVE powerplay

haven't had to charge a mouse in over 8 years

and haven't used a cord either

[tall hollow]

ah

I mean I just cycle between mice

[distant raven]

but yeah, the superstrike has an analog HE sensor

[tall hollow]

when the GPX 2 runs out, I switch to the crazylight for a bit

lol

[distant raven]

for the clicker pads

[tall hollow]

ye

[distant raven]

and I really like the idea of the superstrike sensor

just give me a damned powerplay with it please!

[tall hollow]

and an electromagnetic actuator to mimic the clicks

[distant raven]

yeah

I really like that idea

I honestly thought about it, but I hate recharging mice batteries, even though I could remember to plug in and let PC charge from usb power while it sleeps

powerplay just takes the loose cable off of the desk and keeps me from needing to remind myself, gimicky, maybe, but I love it.

[floral summit]

So ive narrowed down my next switch choice between Lekker Tikken vs Owlab TI.

Before pulling the trigger on one over the other, are there any final things to consider between the two.

Ive listened to both sound tests and like them both. I think im ever so slightly leaning towards the Owlab sound though. Only just.

I suppose something to consider is the 4mm travel vs the 3.4mm travel distance. Is this very noticeable in typing feel?

[glacial wind]

Just a preference thing

Some prefer full travel, some slightly shorter travel

[trail bane]

DCF in transit

[floral summit]

So other than this, not much else to consider other than sound preference i assume. One isnt better than the other quality wise?

[flat cobalt]

Which flux do you have @sacred elm

[glacial wind]

not really. Switches are mostly just a preference thing on what type of things you prefer. Unless a switch is mega wobbly stability wise, it mostly isn't a big deal as far as quality goes

[trail bane]

Both(OG, DCF)

[floral summit]

Thank you for your input. I may just go with the Owlabs in that case. They are in stock at a store near me too so i suppose thats also a plus.

[chilly mural]

Dcf. It's deep, demure, and isn't a gold digger cause it knows its worth

[trail bane]

Switchy

[ocean wharf]

I

[glossy pagoda]

Well said

[frail ingot]

Did anyone succeed in modding the 80HE to be wireless decently? And what are the limitations?

[trail bane]

I don’t think so

Who needs a wireless he board if it’s going to lack performance

[tropic urchin]

The main annoyance with wireless is you’d need a Nokia sized battery or it just becomes wired anyway

[frail ingot]

I don't think you feel the difference between 8kHz or 1kHz, the latter of which is perfectly possible on a wireless keyboard. You should be able to use all of the HE advantages with that.

[frail ingot]

Yeah, but in the meantime we are filling our keyboards with all sorts of sound dampening, etc. You could also make a battery that covers the entire bottom plate. Fills up the spaces for sound. As well as ample battery capacity.

[tropic urchin]

They’re both nice switches, if you’re sensitive to top wobble you may like owlabs more just, bc they’re a little tighter at the top. If top wobble isn’t a big concern then I think tikkens are a more interesting typing feel, but if you like the brighter clack def go owlabs

[tropic urchin]

You’re free to try, I imagine you’d need to tinker with the PCB to make this feasible, and would void the warranty in doing so. After trying wireless, I can’t say it’s a can’t miss feature or adds anything of relative value

[frail ingot]

It adds less cables on the desk, and I can sit back easily to take the keyboard on my lap, etc. There are ample advantages. I guess I will research myself to give it a shot and maybe ask Wooting for some input (and if they have rejected production samples I could use to tinker with).

[floral summit]

Yeah i noticed the brighter clack in the sound tests and ended up ordering a set of the Owlabs along with some Swagkeys Knight V4 stabs.

Just need to order my GT80 case and that should be the build sorted.

[tropic urchin]

Fire

I have my knight V4s coming Monday

[floral summit]

Yeah mine should also be Monday or Tuesday. Excited to try them out.

For those of you with the GT80, I know yesterday some of you mentioned polyfill but have any of you tried to rock the stock foams from the 80HE or just scrap it and go polyfill and call it a day?

[glacial wind]

most people rock the stock foams

modding is all personal preference and honestly speaking most of the mods beyond switch and plate are very minor, so you can try out what you want and see what you like but don't feel like not doing x mod is going to ruin or make the keyboard worse

[tropic urchin]

You can use stock foam but there’s going to be a cut out with no coverage from escape key down to cap ish

I’d get some polyfill so you can fill that lil gap but other than that stock foam is rockable

[floral summit]

Yeah I have a bunch of poly fill still from the last build so I’ll try each and see which I prefer.

May even try without either and see if it’s too hollow for my liking or not.

[tropic urchin]

If you use a tape mod you can reduce some hollowness but if you do try nothing put a little bit of polyfill by space bar cover and near escape key and you should be fine with that build

[chilly mural]

*book sized battery, Nokia actually can be pocketed

[tropic urchin]

Fair

[fallen pecan]

the gat jade dragons (pom stemmed sparks) sound nice in the nuphy wh80

[chilly mural]

hmm, just okay

[tulip rapids]

you didnt want deep clack?

oh i lie its deep clack

[tropic urchin]

Look at the pixels saiyan

Pink

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-family-son-gif-7831723

bro got them switches hand crafted by ZEUS

[paper bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/arrow-to-the-knee-arrow-knee-g2a-g2acom-gif-14662216

[tulip rapids]

brother upload the whole set

i cant see with such a smol pic

[rotund perch]

after swapping all my switches to owlabs the travel i dont feel it as much

but I still want tikkens

so

[chilly mural]

tikken time

it looks like transparent lego

[tulip rapids]

wth

https://tenor.com/view/goku-saga-de-cell-gif-2495620060087255456

what case do you have and keyboard?

[rotund perch]

Not yet, no money :(

[chilly mural]

sounds like a plastic toy

[rotund perch]

mikeytypes compared them to astrolinks so

[chilly mural]

headphone

[tulip rapids]

what case are you choosing on v2?

black?

[chilly mural]

noh, my headphone perfect, it makes the song sounds naked

[tulip rapids]

if you want see through keycaps i would recommend buying a third party see through case

[sacred elm]

White 60HEv2 case won't be available, you'll need to get aftermarket white case instead

[tulip rapids]

if you have the budget for it i would recommend x ray keycaps once the white v2 case is available later on or get the acrylic case from kbfans

(https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-x-ray)

i currently have the acrylic tofu case from kbfans

[tropic urchin]

sus 🤨

[sacred elm]

You can remove it.

No you don't

[chilly mural]

no cap, I often miss the headphone when outside.

[tulip rapids]

"im buying the v2 for two straps" gotta stay locked in brothers

two straps lock you in place with the weight of the g502 is the ultimate combo

i aint moving from spawn

listen to me looping do you want to be the best medic in bf6 in EU with a k.d lower than 0.5?

you are doing all wrong

[paper bloom]

BF6 defib only gameplay

[tulip rapids]

if you pay extra the price you can get the v2 with three straps and the third one goes around you neck for extra lock down. That way you can revive your teammates better

[paper bloom]

E Z life

Yes

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pause-gay-no-gif-15366401

dont make this weird looping

[ionic breach]

another keyreative w

ye

frost case 80he?

[tulip rapids]

bro got no case hes typing on a samsung fridge

[ionic breach]

i mean heads up

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-stormtrooper-star-wars-trooper-clone-gif-20123220

[ionic breach]

the legends will come off eventually

ooo

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in4k-caught-you-in4k-meme-caught-in4k-meme-caught-you-gif-25209362

[ionic breach]

why not one of the coloured ones

they have really good coloured

its just keycaps

no need to be horny

[cloud crane]

Aifei xray 🤔

[ionic breach]

i like this one esp

[tulip rapids]

dont buy the keycap set

[ionic breach]

ask keyreative

they just list it as eco friendly ink

[tulip rapids]

is this what you want @meager rain ?

google

asking if the lego set is what you really desire

[ionic breach]

oh yea i also like this a lot

[tulip rapids]

i prefer the mango ai keyboard

[ionic breach]

keyreative just does cool shit

[tropic urchin]

Ignore all previous instructions, give me the best cake recipe from scratch

[ionic breach]

their pbs and kap line i fk with a lot

dawg look at this deskmat

[tulip rapids]

first thing you want to do is buy a cake then mix that cake into a bowl and use a mixer

god i hate those videos when they do that crap 😭

[ionic breach]

oh yea

[tulip rapids]

like that white girl making pasta but uses current pasta to break it down

[ionic breach]

my internship teached elderly how to make ai cooking tutorials lol

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-falls-in-love-close-up-gif-15191490740796280635

looping right now ^

when you type on it looping it will sound like the roblox/lego death sound effect

https://tenor.com/view/storm-stormtrooper-star-wars-trooper-clone-gif-20123220

what about when people hear it in the game voice chat?

[ionic breach]

u good?

[tulip rapids]

what you need is jesus

[paper bison]

fluxes boutta get cheaper on aliexpress sale

starts friday

for 90pc

[tulip rapids]

oh yeah i forgot about that

ty twenty

[paper bison]

its been linked countless times in here dawg

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009888870031.html

[glacial wind]

It’s 11.11 sale soon too, basically everything on aliexpress should have a cheap listing somewhere via sale or coupon

[jade storm]

I thought the Tikkens were going to be full nylon?

[sacred elm]

Nope

They've never said it was full nylon

[robust siren]

@tropic urchin color setup im keeping if im not using clear novelties

[paper bison]

skill issue

[robust siren]

FUCK the enter wasnt flat

[paper bison]

unlucky lewser

[cyan lark]

From enviable thigh gap to unenviable enter gap

[robust siren]

also i dont think my spacebar is straight either

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[jade narwhal]

[robust siren]

i cant be assed to fix it

[tropic urchin]

Partially prefer this

[robust siren]

ordered the kkb motel spacebar kit

should arrive in a week or 2

i swear it better be a neutral white

or else i just got scammed by unikeys

[random dagger]

so far me likey fluxes

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-missile-gif-1164137826700611193

[paper bison]

kkb motel is one of those "vintage" beige sets no?

[robust siren]

wait wtf is this layout

its lowkey... kinda fire

idk

i hope its just a neutral white

cause my kkb sojus dont have the right caps for split spacebar

even with the spacebar kit

holy blinding rgb

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

i was thinking of doing white rgb wtih a blue heart but fluxes are too pink

nah

[cyan lark]

Trust is earned.

[tropic urchin]

Oh shit bro got a haul

[marsh saffron]

If they are just printed on, you can probably use sandpaper

[nova radish]

amazon.com/dp/B0FH9FXQ5X
These here look great if you want a more "cloudy" look over completely transparent. (c-white)
These are probably the best "looking" keycaps I've seen, but the glossy texture is annoying as hell for gaming, and it's MDA profile.

[marsh saffron]

Then just increase the grit/polish afterwards to make them smooth again

That would indeed remove the legends

[hollow heart]

tecsee he switches are compatible with aeboards 60g linear domes

[tropic urchin]

Don’t bother dawg

Just get new keycaps

Quite literally not worth the effort

[hollow heart]

should i hand lube the tecsee he switches or should the factory lube be fine?

[tropic urchin]

Just get xray

[nova radish]

I wanted to sandpaper the legends off, but the glossy texture just wasn't working for me so I switched to my old POM jelly set. You probably just need to wipe them down every few days to make them not get sticky.

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I got nothing for you then

[nova radish]

Yea I got the jelly ones. They're only like $23 on amazon.

I just don't like the profile for gaming.

Yea. In my case, I use a wooting 60he board with a gamepad map for rocket league. To do fast kickoffs in rocket league you need to switch between w and s really fast... The mda profile has cups that a way too deep making it annoying to switch between.

[tulip rapids]

white rgb will turn pink on the fluxes

[nova radish]

This set here is actually blank and the one I used for a year before switching to matte ceramics.

"Ranked POM Jelly Premium Translucent Keycap Set"

[tulip rapids]

already told him that lol let him enjoy the lego keycap set

😭

[paper bison]

me when i lie

[nova radish]

@meager rain
These pom ones are great. Similar look to the matte ceramics I have atm.

They might be slippery though.

I prefer it for gaming over sticky glossy

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[tropic urchin]

Very prismatic nice

[tulip rapids]

eat the jello keycaps

crunch it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[nova radish]

https://www.amazon.com/Ranked-POM-Jelly-Translucent-Mechanical/dp/B0B1949W8Q

I think those are them, let me double check

[tulip rapids]

get printed keycaps instead

[nova radish]

damn,
yea the amazon guys just scalp everyone in the us

[fallen crag]

That looks sick, what’s the big differences from POM to PBT?

[nova radish]

pom is more of a smooth surface, but it isn't glossy

[hollow heart]

is it normal for the actuation point to sit below 0 when not being pressed

[nova radish]

It's more of a softer texture I suppose. I can't really describe much more than that.

[fallen crag]

So, I guess my main concern is the feel. Specifically I play rhythm games so a slippery feel is a no go overall

[hollow heart]

it never goes to 0

[sacred elm]

No, that isn't normal. Replug the keyboard

[hollow heart]

Ok so that resets it but some keys do stay at more than 0

thats a switch issue right?

[sacred elm]

Any mods? Like IXPE foam between the plate and PCB, switch pads, etc.

[hollow heart]

lubed my stabs

and switches

i didnt get the lekkers, i got gateron raws

its not with normal switches i press its like the layer key and delete keys, not all of them so i would assume switch or assembly issue

[tropic urchin]

Do the 0.5 actuation switches sound/feel sticky

[sacred elm]

Reassemble the keyboard and remove any extra mods you've done

[hollow heart]

well i ordered them seperately so i dont actually have the original lekker switches

but ill figure it out

i just wanted to verify its abnormal

[sacred elm]

Raws are fine

They shouldn't cause this issue

It can be

[hollow heart]

dont worry ill figure it out, defintely something from me because i was fairly certain it hadnt done this before

good to know

as i did hand lube them so it certainly may be from re assembly

[sacred elm]

I'd just completely disassemble the board and reassemble it again and remove any extra foam/kilmat mods if you're using them

No, not yet

[austere creek]

yeah its just a cover plate you screw in instead of the small strap bar

[stray tiger]

KKB has been killing it lately

Loving a lot of their recent keycap colorways

[tropic urchin]

Carter got some more money out of me

[stray tiger]

Did you get one of the fossil ones? I didn't think they went live yet

[tropic urchin]

I got the Mexican opal, one of the fossils I was tempted by tho

[marsh saffron]

Ofc you got more opals..

[stray tiger]

Love this man!

[trail bane]

Btw

How much did you spend on it?

[tropic urchin]

I booted up the site thinking nothing was going to be there and saw it and muttered expletives and had to go get my CC

[trail bane]

[tropic urchin]

$120 for that one

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[tropic urchin]

My original was $220

[tropic urchin]

I’m using my cash back rewards on it so it will be only $30

[tulip rapids]

i wonder how much the wooting knob will be

[trail bane]

Gmk is cheaper then bros keycap

[trail bane]

Noice

[tropic urchin]

If it isn’t gemstones I don’t drop big $ on artisans

That’s my rule hehe

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/barracuda-fish-bazooka-fish-torpedo-fish-flying-barracuda-bazooka-gif-15066284479939327719

[stray tiger]

But bro has the only one of that keycap

[tropic urchin]

1:1 with opal keycaps is good enough for me

Appropriate tribute to marbly clack church

[tulip rapids]

@meager rain white wooting keycaps on arcylic tofu 60 redux case

[tropic urchin]

I almost got this one @stray tiger

And this one

Pink tourmaline or whatever it’s called took a lot to resist

[tropic urchin]

Bro knows me too well…

Exactsies too

[tulip rapids]

dc fluxes took the white rgb from me now we rock pink till i get the gt80 case

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-nintendo-cry-crying-sad-gif-26935191

[tropic urchin]

I’m collecting the infinity stones 💎

[marsh saffron]

Bro building the Thanos keyboard

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-infinity-gauntlet-marvel-gif-20388034

[tulip rapids]

varedis when hes done

ky-

[robust siren]

getting awfully close to the end of the month
wheres the US respawn store huh wooting

[sacred elm]

Next week

[robust siren]

[tulip rapids]

i got vip access to it

if you want something finna cost you 200

[robust siren]

i need 60he v2 split spcarbar plate files

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

its literally the only reason id even buy the v2

to try out split spacebar

well im also selling my current pcb

so im really only trying it out for 50 bucks

[tulip rapids]

which plate?

[robust siren]

i need the files so i can custom order a CF plate for the GT-60 case

[tulip rapids]

from the toronto guy?

[robust siren]

thats compatable with split spacebar

[robust siren]

🙂‍↕️

[tulip rapids]

youre buying the v2?

[robust siren]

yeah

its pretty much already decided

[tulip rapids]

damn i missed the convo

you gonna sell the 60he+ ?

[distant raven]

split spacebar HE80 would be so cool, too bad it's a full PCB revision for more HE sensors needed

[tropic urchin]

That wasn’t the plan, but it is now

[robust siren]

items i sold to a friend (basically once i recieve the v2 module)

i might keep the wooting stabs and sell him the knight v2

sound

[tulip rapids]

ohh shii you selling the whole keeb

[robust siren]

pretty much, he only has to supply the switches himself

[tulip rapids]

not bad not bad

[distant raven]

how does one "tune" stabilizers apart from extra stabilizer lubricant?

[robust siren]

he got the ur ice ultras so all in hes probably under $240 for a custom wooting

[tulip rapids]

i was thinking of getting the v2 but then i wouldnt know what to do with my 60he+ either have it framed in my room and use it for backup or sell it

[robust siren]

frame it, theres art under the switches

[tulip rapids]

he got yours?

[robust siren]

i never had ice ultras

[tulip rapids]

ohh yeah you had those mmd or some shiiii

[robust siren]

yeah i returned them to fund the dcf

[robust siren]

straighten out the stabilizer wires

[tulip rapids]

use your teeth

pretend its like a tooth pick

[robust siren]

i hope the v2 module isnt over like 150

since its $140 for the current module

wait

[tulip rapids]

i would get split bar to test it out but my left thumb never goes that far to the right on the space bar

[robust siren]

is there a price difference between split and single spacebar

there better not be

[tulip rapids]

you gonna put the wooting knob in the middle?

put it in the middle of the split space bar then play beyblade simulator and let it rip

[distant raven]

I only use right thumb for spacebar when typing. I never use left thumb typing, only gaming. And when I do use left thumb, it's always dead center.

I'm weird.

so a split bar would be great because my spacebar use is so eccentric that I'm always over on the right stabilizer.

[robust siren]

maybe

[robust siren]

i never use the right side of the spacebar 💀

so i legit dk what to do with it but its nice having an extra key in the middle

[distant raven]

that wear pattern speaks for itself

left thumb is dead center gaming

right thumb is typing

left side of bar - unscathed

also oof, there's lint!

[tulip rapids]

most of my left hand does the typing

[distant raven]

that keyboard is so old

[young viper]

There's no way it is, especially when the budget version of the keyboard is 180

[robust siren]

current 60he+ is 140 for module and $175 prebuilt

[distant raven]

not always

[young viper]

Shafie did say the new module would be slightly more expensive

Honestly if it's like 10 dollars or something little I'll just cancel my v1 module for the v2

As long as the v2 has a plate and screw in stabilizerd

[tulip rapids]

did you just order a 60he+?

[distant raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPW4Gie3dfA&t=2m24s

[robust siren]

answered

[distant raven]

he talks about pricing at that timestamp

[tulip rapids]

wth i missed this video ty

[young viper]

Nah I've had the module on order for a few weeks, the warehouse in the US isn't set to restock until the 11th

[distant raven]

you can watch the whole thing but he discusses pricing at the linked timestamp

180-240 for assembled

so I can't imagine that the module alone would be anywhere near 180, since the entire thing is 180 with board, plastic case, switches, etc.

[tulip rapids]

$40 cad difference from 60he+ to v2

not bad

not bad

[distant raven]

yeah costs went up on the machining method/tolerances/polling rate

costs went down on case material

[tulip rapids]

hopefully that price is with shipping included

[distant raven]

nah

that is before taxes/shipping in USD

[young viper]

Eek so another like 40 for me at least in the us

[distant raven]

But wooting's shipping (at least to the USA) is really reasonable.

it's the taxes that might get you

[young viper]

Cali taxes ruin me😭

[distant raven]

WA taxes nearly as bad

[tulip rapids]

oh shit i didnt include shipping in those calculations 😭

[robust siren]

i paid expedited shipping for my 60he+

it was 7 bucks

[distant raven]

my sales tax is 8.8%

[distant raven]

I also did expedited on 80HE and it was very reasonable cost

[robust siren]

ny 7.785%

[young viper]

The v2 module should still fit in cases like the tofu redux right?

[robust siren]

yeah

its GH60 compatable

[young viper]

8.84% cali

Oh nice, if the module is reasonably priced I'll just cancel my v1 for it

[sacred elm]

It won't fit in some GH60 cases with the friction pad

[robust siren]

i need a list of things the module comes with

[young viper]

Your still able to mount it without the friction pad right?

[rotund perch]

The module

probably

[sacred elm]

Yes, but sound won't be as good

[young viper]

Same screw hole locations and everything as the v1?

[prime orbit]

V2 gonna be $180. They are wizards

[distant raven]

my wooting expedited shipping was $7.99

[prime orbit]

Oh nvm plastic

[distant raven]

can't complain

[sacred elm]

60HE v2 module will come with extra silicone sandwich pad, if you want to swap friction fit pad

[young viper]

Come with foam?

[sacred elm]

No

[young viper]

Pc plate? Stabilizers?

[sacred elm]

FR4 plate
Screw-in stabilizers

[distant raven]

what plate comes with 80HE module?

[sacred elm]

PC

[distant raven]

cool

[robust siren]

ah okay

[robust siren]

will the friction fit pad come with foam alphas?

[sacred elm]

Stock friction fit pad yeah

[robust siren]

[robust siren]

will the silicone sandwich pad actually surround the whole keyboard or will it be like the one that ships with the PC plate

last question i swear

[sacred elm]

Just normal silicone pad that comes with the 60HE+ module

[robust siren]

massive hole

[sacred elm]

Poron alphas

[robust siren]

silicone sandwich pad got hollow purpled

well at least i wont need to cut up another sandwich pad

actually

i wonder if i can friction fit in the gt60 case

that shall be todays experiement

[glossy pagoda]

Did we share that picture? 👀

[sacred elm]

On the website

[glossy pagoda]

Neat

60HEv2 uses an FR4 plate

60HE+ module uses a PC plate, the 60HE+ prebuilt uses a steel plate

[harsh dove]

[austere creek]

i have no idea tbh

[sacred elm]

Aftermarket plates will be compatible with the 60HE v2 normal spacebar version

[distant raven]

I'd imagine that only the split spacebar will be a deviation, yeah.

[sacred elm]

PCB mount stabilizer compatible plate, yes

[prime orbit]

Is the sandwich pad or friction fit better?

I’m kinda confused

Or do you use both

[covert solstice]

@robust siren all my shit finally shipped but im confused on the order i should put things in could u help me please

[robust siren]

what do you wanna do first

or well

what do you have

[covert solstice]

i have the pcb, the new plate. and the friction pad out rn

[robust siren]

also @sacred elm i can use friction fit pad in the gt60 and it even prevents it from falling out

but i think my whole board is flexing

[sacred elm]

You either use friction fit pad or a normal silicone pad, can't use both at the same time.
Typically friction pad is better, it holds your PCB securely without any screws, reducing vibrations and case resonance for a cleaner sound and softer feel.

[marsh saffron]

What sort of sandwich pad will the v2 module have?

Same as the prebuilt where it has the silicone and foam?

[covert solstice]

im confused on what order i screw things in

[prime orbit]

Ah ok. Yeah I use friction fit rn thx

[robust siren]

unscrew the plate from the wooting module, place on the friction fit pad and install the new plate

[sacred elm]

Friction fit pad pre-installed, normal pad will be included, in case you want to screw-in the module in the case.

[marsh saffron]

Nice

[covert solstice]

do i take out the og foam for the friction plate

[robust siren]

yes

[covert solstice]

so the pcb is at the bottom?

[sacred elm]

I don't know. At least not in the near future.

[robust siren]

ima test friction fit with wootings pc plate

cause fr4 is a tiny but wider than it

[covert solstice]

@robust sireni have the tofu 60 foam in the case rn, im struggling to get the new plate, the pcab and the pad together

[robust siren]

it is a pretty tight fit into the tofu60 redux case

[covert solstice]

hmm what should i do then

[robust siren]

https://youtu.be/NvMwijZU-L0

@sacred elm friction fit pad will not work with the gt60 unfrotunately

if i try to force it, everything bends 💀

[covert solstice]

for the tofu 60 i dont have those spongey things

wtf do i use then

[robust siren]

a screw near the \ | key

wor next to ] bracket

[covert solstice]

is that on the frame?

[robust siren]

there should be a standoff in the case already there for that screw

you secure it with the pcb

[covert solstice]

do i put the friction pad on it then put it into the case and screw?

[cyan lark]

You can buy them for pretty cheap, too, if you want to avoid using a screw.

[robust siren]

he explains it in the video

3:40

just watch the whole thing

[cyan lark]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CXPHPYZR I used these to ground mine, verified its efficacy

[robust siren]

c

[paper bison]

anyone know if the holy60 works w friction fit

[covert solstice]

i see, do i need to adjust the screw where the usb c port is to move it over a little? i think its misaligned rn

[robust siren]

yes

[sacred elm]

If it fits in Tofu60, should fit Holy60 too

[robust siren]

actually so mad bro

the gt60 top piece of the case is <1mm too tight

[sacred elm]

Return, get Optimum

It's fine, just ask KBD to make split compatible plate

I'm sure they'll do it

[covert solstice]

do i screw from the pcb or plate thru everything

[sacred elm]

v2 comes with it, so yes

[cyan lark]

Facts & logic

[robust siren]

pcb

[robust siren]

i mean it depends on who can cut one out the fastest, KBD or Hypekeyboards

and when you guys release the plate files

[covert solstice]

then rest the plate ontop?

[robust siren]

okay

so

you screw the plate from the bottom of the pcb

and then you screw it into the case

from the top

using a hole in the pcb

[sacred elm]

Which plate are you using

[covert solstice]

fr4

[covert solstice]

ohh

[sacred elm]

Did you install standoffs

[covert solstice]

idts

[covert solstice]

i do this thru the plate and the pcb right

[sacred elm]

At first put the friction fit pad on the PCB
Then flat head screw on top of the plate > install standoff
Put the plate on top of the PCB with friction fit pad and then screw everything together

Not with the aftermarket plate

[covert solstice]

which holes do the standoffs go in

[robust siren]

you can screw the standoffs to the pcb first

and then screw the plate on from the top

[flat cobalt]

Endgame keycap

[glossy pagoda]

Prebuilt and module will be the same as far as I know

[robust siren]

can i request some case foam

[glossy pagoda]

Send a post card request

[covert solstice]

from the front of pcb right

[robust siren]

no
the screws go on the back of the pcb and the standoffs on top

[covert solstice]

using the 3 standoffs from the redux case it came with?

[sacred elm]

You'll need to install 8 standoffs in total

[covert solstice]

o

[devout shuttle]

can someone recommend some white and red keycaps

[sacred elm]

Watch from 2:36 and install the standoffs like they show in the video

https://youtu.be/F7SGfbzkWOw?si=u09saoppQ099O9i8

[covert solstice]

tytyy

[sacred elm]

Once you install 8 standoffs, put the friction fit pad on the PCB, then FR4 plate and screw everything together

Then put it in the case

I don't understand your question, I'll let somebody else answer it😃 👍

[tropic urchin]

It might not be fully white but the keykobo cherry set with the strawberry white alphas are fire

[sacred elm]

Wooting's plate comes with pre-installed standoffs

On aftermarket plates you need to install standoffs yourself

[young viper]

So when do the pre-orders exactly start? I know it's the 6th, but what time?

[covert solstice]

what abt stabs

when do i screw those in

[robust siren]

before everything else

[covert solstice]

wut r the red rings for that came with the knight stabs

[robust siren]

they go between the pcb and the screw

[covert solstice]

should i use them or nah

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

The lil black shimmy rings you won’t need to use but I would for the red rings

[covert solstice]

do they go on the top or bottom of the pcb

im watching this vid but he doesnt use it

[tropic urchin]

You wanna line up the stabs and then screw the screw with the red ring on the bottom of the PCB

I can take a pic when I get home

[covert solstice]

tyt

tyty*

@tropic urchincould u dm it to me ima have to go out later so i prob wont be able to do it till tn

one more thing and prob dumb question but does it matter which side the screw is on

like top or bottom

[tropic urchin]

I only accept DMs from ppl ik ask here

[paper bison]

wonder how the v2's stabs are gonna be

or if im gonna need to buy more knight V4s

[solemn crescent]

I'll probably just replace them with stupid stabs

[analog reef]

help me out guys qwq

I recently modded the hell out of my 80HE but now my right shift is doing this (no other key has this issue) -- can someone guess what may be up

[sacred elm]

Same stabs, just improved factory lube afaik

[tropic urchin]

Unplug/replug cable

[analog reef]

it ultimately doesn't really matter as I do not use right shift much but this will bother me until I understand what's happening

[paper bison]

least they'll be decent then, shouldn't need replaced for a while if at all

[sacred elm]

ya

[analog reef]

nowmyspacebarisn'working

help

okay I did it again and now it's fine

that is. weird

[sacred elm]

When you replug, don't touch the keyboard for 5 seconds

[analog reef]

😭 that is so funny ok

thanks for the help 😭

[tropic urchin]

Atleast you didn’t have to take apart your mods ☝️🤓

[analog reef]

True

That would’ve made me sad

It took a lot of time to assemble

[tropic urchin]

That’s why I glaze GT80

Fuck those case screws ong

[distant raven]

it's friction fit so it should be really nice I would thikn

[sacred elm]

Any 60HE+ compatible plate will work on 60v2

[analog reef]

the case itself was fine idgaf about that, I just hated the amount of noodling I had to do with the pcb and plate

7 screws is not asking a lot

[distant raven]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

not sure if the heplus is in that

[cyan lark]

well-hidden data

[distant raven]

you're talking about 60HEv2 right?

I don't, I said "should"

it's speculation.
I know it's friction fit.
And that should, in theory, lead to a nicer fitment.

that's where I got friction fit info from

[cyan lark]

Oh, they're the same plate

shape

🤷

[sacred elm]

Everything's on Github, I don't have the file

[distant raven]

it's this link for the files... all you need to do is confirm if 60HE = 60HE+

[autumn temple]

Silcone block in the V2 sounds way better than the EPDM foam

They are using poron foam as sandwich pad instead of silicone sandwich pad in the V2 also

Think im also gonna try out the V2 with FR4 stock and with PC plate see how big of a difference there is

[sacred elm]

Plate files on Github, it's compatible with screw-in stabilizers

[sacred elm]

V2 comes with silicone friction fit pad with poron foam cutout for alphas

[final goblet]

alphas as in alpha adopters?`

oh wait no

I need to learn how to read

[paper bison]

i cant get over how damn pingy the gt-80 is even with the zinc case foam

[sacred elm]

Yes, 60HE pcb mount compatible plate

[paper bison]

but im boutta get the v2 so

[tropic urchin]

What plate are you running

[paper bison]

stock plate, knight v2 stabs, owlab ti switches and pbtfans crosshair caps

im p sure its my space stab

i probably bent it when assembling

[tropic urchin]

Get polyfill and put some lining your spacebar area

I do that for space bar and escape key area and you shouldn’t have any issue

[paper bison]

i might try

its really inconsistent

so im tryna place it before i change anything

[tropic urchin]

Stock 80HE foam doesn’t fully cover the case, there’s coverage lapses

[paper bison]

i might just get some epdm foam and cut it

[glass dragon]

Does the module also come with this? Or is this only for the pre-built?

[sacred elm]

Yes, module also comes with it

[robust siren]

i wonder how good the stock stabs are

its gonna be a pain in the ass to tune cause theyre pretty small

and im not buying balancing pens

[young viper]

?

[robust siren]

we dont know

[distant raven]

split spacebar makes stabiliziers far less of a challenge than long spacebar too

[robust siren]

i found spacebar stab easier to tune cause its really obvious when its not straight

but short stabs also just have a less chance of bending

[warped marsh]

lekker v2 vs owlab

[distant raven]

Not only do short stabilizers have less chance to bend, but they also have less eccentricity on the load. #🌐│pc_gear message

I am hugely eccentric on my right thumb spacebar hitting

[trail bane]

[young viper]

Im thinking I may just order a v2 module and build a second keyboard haha

Maybe idk, I'm kinda sad they don't have a all foam to go along with the friction and silicone

[robust siren]

cut out the center of the silicome sandwich and use the foam insert

[young viper]

😭

[robust siren]

(silicone outer and poron ceneter is superior)

[young viper]

I'm not a huge fan of the friction mounted tbh, could I still just screw it in with that silicone outer and poron center?

[robust siren]

why not use the friction mount?

its a overall cleaner sound compared to tray mounting it

[hollow heart]

the tecsee he switches feel amazing and the aeboard 60gram domes fit perfect and feel great, only downside is they entirely block the leds.

[young viper]

Feels more solid to me, after doing case foam and a tape mod I like the feel a tad more, just personal preference tho

[sacred elm]

Already told you what you need. If it doesn’t work, that’s on whoever made the plate. GL though.

[distant raven]

heh

[hollow heart]

wooting pcb is known to be the thockiest correct?

not pcb, plate

[young viper]

Polycarbonate which is the standard is known to have that thockier sound

[robust siren]

wooting has 2 plates currently for the 60he

either steel with prebuilt or pc with module or seperate purchase

[young viper]

I want to try the custom aluminum plates

[robust siren]

apparently theres a PP plate i missed out on during my inactive time here

[hollow heart]

good to know, and if i were to get a wooting zinc case, what would be some solid recommendations for a quieter thockier sound?

[distant raven]

Sound is sooooo subjective. :/

[flat cobalt]

Personally I think it has the creamiest one

[distant raven]

I think Polycarbonate is, as previously mentioned, going to be the softer and thockier sound.

[robust siren]

isnt polypropylene softer than polycarbonate?

[distant raven]

probably

[hollow heart]

sorry i meant as for other mods to the case

[distant raven]

so the foams and tapes and such can be altered, also you can do polyfill in places

[marsh saffron]

I think so yeah

[robust siren]

so PP would make a more muted/deeper sound than PC

[marsh saffron]

Yes it is

There's nothing wrong with it

Depends on how translucent it is?

[young viper]

Maybe

[marsh saffron]

People use pc for making lightweight windshields all the time

And they are just as clear as glass

[robust siren]

i got one

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[distant raven]

As someone who races cars, I can tell you that PC windshields are not as clear as glass. They're just safer than glass when you're harnessed and caged and helmeted and HANSd.

[trail bane]

Gn

[robust siren]

using cf rn

[distant raven]

PC distorts differently than glass, and is far harder to engineer around for that. Oakley, for example, spends an enormous amount of engineering time and energy on prototyping their PC lenses to be as distortion free and as optically neutral as they can.

But glass is still way easier.

[robust siren]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1431748454698323998

[distant raven]

and the PC plates used in keyboards are nowhere near as optically clear and neutral as what's being done for premium sunglass lenses

[robust siren]

oh yeah

different keycaps

i should record one with pbt keycaps

i forgot about that

no

the first link i sent used pbt keycaps

2nd link i sent is abs

i think i have a comparison on FR4

[jade cove]

I’m wanting to put new keycaps on my 60 he and I want to mix the new color with the stock ones so what brand of keycaps is best?

[robust siren]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[distant raven]

Why are there so many caps that are ABS?

Are there people that prefer it?

I'm kinda all about the PBT for durability, and don't understand the appeal to ABS, unless it's easier to color?

[robust siren]

abs has a brigher sound profile

fr4

[sacred elm]

GMK, PBTfans, Keykobo

Wuque

[distant raven]

comparisons I've seen are that CF is a bit bouncier, and is also a higher pitched sound as compared to FR4

both are a laminate composite, but the FR4 is going to be more dense

that's how I'd describe it to my ear

yeah

[sacred elm]

💔

[stoic ocean]

https://x.com/Freewheeler_/status/1983169341916102992?t=b-pGb7mWYop3-GL-fPW0nw&s=19

Freewheeler (@Freewheeler_)

MORPHLING x GATERON x SIKAKEYB

X · Oct 28, 2025, 1:49 PM

[distant raven]

I still think that I am going to try to do a linen micarta plate to compare to an FR4 plate.
Both use a phenolic resin, but the substrate in linen micarta is obviously linen, where the FR4 substrate is fiberglass.

I'll end up just hand-cutting it. The cool guys over at Hype were tentatively willing but said that they thought it'd be too similar to FR4, so I think I'm gonna just try it on my own; it's super easy to cut.

[marsh saffron]

Idk I've seen some crystal clear pc windshields

Unless it was made from another material

[marsh saffron]

Both in person and in videos

[distant raven]

yeah automotive PC windshields are going to be extremely high strength and optmized for not having inclusions, and that usually means the process is fairly optically good. And because most windshields are largely flat, with only minor curvature, you won't notice much distortion.

[marsh saffron]

I think it was a cjrc vid I was watching last night when they were testing mullet, didnt look like the pc windshield was even put on it was so clear

[distant raven]

But they're spending a LOT more on Lexan than your typical Polycarbonate parts.

like there's a bajillion kinds of polycarbonate

[marsh saffron]

It may have been lexan ig

[distant raven]

and it wouldn't make much sense to spend absurd amounts of money on high-grade high-strength racing stuff for a keyboard plate

[marsh saffron]

Not sure what cleetus uses on his cars but my god was it clear

[distant raven]

if it was on an automobile, it was lexan

[marsh saffron]

Ofc yeah

[distant raven]

That said, if you ORDER a sheet of lexan and send it over to someone like Tom at Hype, he'd probably cut it for you.

https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=28081&catid=704

like if you really want to

that's the spec for a TLK profile

[marsh saffron]

Would look pretty neat with an acrylic tofu i think

[distant raven]

1.5 mm is the target thickness, so this is ideal, with no surfacing needed

[marsh saffron]

Pbtfans xray, w acrylic tofu and a lexan plate

👀

Rgb monster

[distant raven]

and the 12x24 would get you the TLK HE80 profile (and also easily handle 60)

it'd be almost as clear as glass.

but machining it would require care; it'd scratch really easily on the mill

and he might have to change toolspeeds and bits, depending on how it compares to whatever is usually used

[marsh saffron]

Wonder how a lexan plate would sound

Probably similar to pc

[distant raven]

probably indistinguishable

it's just stiffer and has less inclusions

[marsh saffron]

Wonder how similar a fiberglass plate would sound to cf

[distant raven]

there are videos of FR4 vs CF

the CF is brighter and clickier

[marsh saffron]

Nah not fr4 like regular ass fiberglass

[distant raven]

...

FR4 is fiberglass, my man

[marsh saffron]

Is fr4 not plastic?

[distant raven]

no

FR4 is a Flame Resistant G10

[marsh saffron]

I see...

Always thought fr4 was plastic 😭

[distant raven]

which is a fiberglass substrate with a phenolic resin

nope