🌐│pc_gear

[obtuse dove]

I run my AIO fans at 30% all the time lol

And the 5090 uses the stock fan curve

[bitter sapphire]

imagine having money for a GPU that cost as much as a good used car xd

[quasi field]

I don't like them either. They feel clunky

[bitter sapphire]

i hate mounting them its painfull

[quasi field]

I had the Liquid Freezer III and it was horrible to install

[patent patrol]

painfull???

[bitter sapphire]

i have the Liquid Freezer II

thats even worse xd

[patent patrol]

i got the iii

first install was kinda hard but then i was made aware of the easy method

[bitter sapphire]

this one is suck ass

[obtuse dove]

A good used car here costs right around 10k bro 😭

[bitter sapphire]

sucks i guess

[patent patrol]

i might change my gpu fancurve thoo

idk why it running at 1200rpm at 60degrees

[bitter sapphire]

im not even gaming fuck this AIO

[quasi field]

I'm going go get the Noctua 5080 which seems to have an amazing fancurve out of the box

[bitter sapphire]

its sucks

[obtuse dove]

It's ok though, small drop in the bucket for me, plus it's already made its ROI with the amount of actual work I've done on it.

[plain schooner]

https://www.schiit.com/products/yggdrasil?

[obtuse dove]

Funny that my most expensive pc paid itself off in the shortest amount of time

[quasi field]

Please don't tell me you want to buy this

[plain schooner]

No lol I’m not crazy

[bitter sapphire]

he already have one

[patent patrol]

made in usa sounds scary

[plain schooner]

If I shell out for a made in USA it’s usually for the warranty if I’m being honest

[quasi field]

A box that does nothing audibly different from their $100 ones aside from injecting placebo differently into your brain

[obtuse dove]

Made in USA = $$$$$$

Sure it's nice, but man the labor cost here is insane

[plain schooner]

Crazy pricey

[plain schooner]

Hand crafted

[quasi field]

It's for people with too much money and too little sense

[patent patrol]

id trust asia more

[quasi field]

Personally I'd be embarrassed if I owned that because I invite someone home I'd always image there's a small chance the person knows how stupid buying it is

[obtuse dove]

Lmao

90% if stuff that is made in the USA is just assembled in the USA anyways LMAO

[quasi field]

There's a speaker brand in my country that makes really good speakers but what they write is funny and sad copiun

«Conceived in China. Raised by you.»

[bitter sapphire]

like everything

[quasi field]

«Born in Norway»

[heady crystal]

Eugh

[bitter sapphire]

[quasi field]

Born in Norway doesn't even make sense to me. Arguably they are born where they are built. Assembly = sex (China), fully assembled = birth (also China)

It's more like a Norwegian family planned for and requested a Chinese surrogate mother and adopted the child from China

[obtuse dove]

LMAO REAL

The thing about China is that everything is so close to each other in the factory towns

You can get plastic pellets from a refinery and then go down the street to get them injection molded in another factory.

[silver topaz]

Gang the artisan mousepad came

[patent patrol]

🔥

[crude talon]

I’m enjoying my xsoft
sticks so well to the desk comparing to mid

[silver topaz]

Yeah I got a 99 mid

[silver topaz]

I definitely see what they mean by super high stopping power after trying it haha

[rain grail]

I had xs zero and imo too soft

[wispy blaze]

Same

My xsoft zero is now a keyboard mat

And I main raiden soft

[rain grail]

I literally bought xs s and m

Cuz I got good deal and didn’t know which one to get and sadly no returns

[wispy blaze]

The xsoft was fine until I went to glass pad for a year

After that I couldn't stand xsoft

Raiden soft is nice

[obtuse dove]

Glass pads are nice, if you wear long sleeves

[wispy blaze]

I would still be maining glass had I not developed my tremor

Loooove glass pads

Tremor + about 2 year break from kbm made glass too difficult for me 😭

[obtuse dove]

Rip

Bro is unc frfr

[wispy blaze]

Ima give glass pad another go i think

[obtuse dove]

Nice nice

[wispy blaze]

My mouse control is quite a bit better than when I first came back

Nowhere near pre injury but should be able to use glass again

[wispy blaze]

Real

Officially hit unc status as an aimer

[obtuse dove]

Lel

[plain schooner]

Do you always have to wear a sleeve?

[wispy blaze]

nah

i have an ac unit in my room and usually so long as its on i dont really need one

with acception for the very hot humid days

but also, most of the time i would just wear a hoodie instead of a wrist sleeve

[crude talon]

I’ve been using glass for quite a while but I still find xsoft really nice

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSXDfUkL8E

hmm, no comparison with fiio ka15, only ka17. The former shares the same hardware as protocol max

[plain schooner]

@viscid bison I cooked

[quasi field]

This is why I cannot take these guys seriously. Especially not Golden Sound

[terse ferry]

Steel infinite wheel

[quasi field]

He is kind of silly at times

[plain schooner]

Good ol reliable

[plain schooner]

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X · Oct 26, 2025, 8:42 PM

@viscid bison @hazy fiber

[hazy fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-jesse-breaking-bad-wire-gif-2990102113339743712

[viscid bison]

Nice one. Ask if they can do a scroll wheel made of emerald-encrusted royal crown, once worn by the Empress Eugenie; Napoleon 3's wifey

[round lagoon]

Mmm, a refreshed meze 99 classic

I'm not sure this is real since there's not much about it, but it's going to be released in oct 29

[patent patrol]

my zero getting a slow spot 😔 (even after wash)

[crude talon]

tragic

[round lagoon]

O shit JM1 tuned Planar for $150

there's also Diablo which elevate the bass

[plain schooner]

Changing to a lighter cable

[plain schooner]

[lunar niche]

Nice!

[patent siren]

Remember when not that long ago, people were putting weights in their mice?

[lunar niche]

Remember when people were putting balls in their mice?

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-member-randy-marsh-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-gif-20603949

[ancient mantle]

Except there was good reason for ball mice, weights, have never been a good idea.

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiqt9SHDPPk

Oh, IT'S REAL

old

vs new

[white jackal]

wtf is that

[round lagoon]

idfk

[white jackal]

why is my dl speed so cooked i still cant see the newer image you posted

[round lagoon]

maybe because we're across the continent

[white jackal]

nah its accross everything

no clue whats happening

[quasi field]

Bad

That dip completely ruins it

[quasi field]

A horrible, audible dip that you can't properly fix with EQ

Makes the headphone an instant non-buy to anybody serious enough about high-fidelity

[white jackal]

yeah

[quasi field]

It's there on Gadgetry Tech's measurement as well so it's not a unit or rig thing

[white jackal]

who thought that would be ok

[quasi field]

And he said it's audible to him as a shortfall in tonality

[round lagoon]

sad

[quasi field]

https://youtu.be/SgsS_5vSzLE?t=786

Timestamped

At least it's a dip instead of a peak

This (Sony MDR-Z1R) is much worse than a dip like that

[obtuse dove]

Destructive interference with the resonance frequency of the headphones themselves probably.

Really only a problem with headphones though, larger things that aren't made of stiff or dense materials tend to resonate at lower frequencies than smaller and stiffer things.

[frigid ivy]

a lot of times it's usually just measurement artifacts. The reviewer would usually listen to that frequency to confirm if that dip is real or not.

[ancient mantle]

As long as it's consistent and not a resonance eq can fix it.

[quasi field]

It's not an artifact

[frigid ivy]

oof

[quasi field]

It shows up on Gadgetry Tech's measurements as well sadly

[patent siren]

I end up going to a bunch of isolated test tones and manually setting my EQ for a flat volume on every tone.

It shows me how bad hearing loss is. LOL

[plain schooner]

@viscid bison I forgot https://wallhack.com/products/sp-005-awakening

[patent siren]

My mouse reminding me how old and abused it is... New one on the way. (Also had to resolder the left click twice because I kept breaking it.)

ABS realyl does wear poorly, and the soft-touch stuff wore even more poorly.

[crude talon]

my friend got an awekening sora for his first glasspad lol

[viscid bison]

yuhh I got mine but don’t sweat it, there’ll be many of these overhyped drops from WH. Hopefully they do a collab with Little Thunder, her art style(s) is primed for goon pads. Check out her Insta, I think you’d like

[lunar niche]

Damn that bare spot! Nicely done

[plain schooner]

congrats and I'll be sure to check it out

[patent siren]

yeah bare spots on both left and right sides, and super shiny on the left and right click, and the wheel rubber is shredded too

And why I'm here.
This Gigabyte Avia Osmium from 2013 is in need of new key caps and stabilizers. The switches are still perfect and the 1 kHz polling rate and anti-roloover is nice.

I'll use it at the office.

But the 80HE is going to be a massive upgrade.

pretty sure those are ABS keycaps, based on what happened to the D key.

or they're just PC

they're white plastic with black paint.

or dye sub, or whatever? I have no idea. Not the greatest.

[lunar niche]

Saving the planet by not being wasteful ❤️

[patent siren]

Admittedly, I can't claim that I was being noble about saving the planet for my motivation to not be wasteful. I'm just generally not wasteful.

I bought two sets of keycaps for the 80HE. (BOW and WOB PBT doubleshots)

I'm going to have mostly the BOW for alphas and the WOB for the rest on the Wooting 80HE white case.

And then use the inverse of that for replacements on this Osmium.

Both keyboards get a custom colorway, no waste. But I only just now thought of the planet.

[patent siren]

The Pro X Superlight 2 DEX is here to replace dead mouse.

I didn't think that I'd feel so much of a difference in response but the weight savings is noticeable and enjoyable.

[wispy blaze]

what did you have before if a gpx feels light?

[patent siren]

G703 weighing in at 90g.
And X Superlight Pro 2 DEX is 50g

Pro X Superlight 2 DEX

Who names this shit?

[astral musk]

[past dome]

Before overclocking:

[heady zenith]

after overclocking:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374710487329017926/1433401870281609299/Screenshot_2025-10-27_201244.png?ex=69048f05&is=69033d85&hm=577e8cd354d02529c33a35da97942b2142ccbfb195fdff5e03b935fc8785f1dc&

[past dome]

After overclocking:

[past dome]

what

[patent patrol]

less is more

[heady zenith]

no

torture the parts

thats how its supposed to be

if it aint screaming you can squeeze out more

[past dome]

I can get 3GHz on my gpu. It's not torture if it's stable

[patent patrol]

is it really torture if you not increasing voltage

[past dome]

I'm undervolting

[patent patrol]

so they chilling

[heady zenith]

smh

the young generation has lost the touch of overclocking

[past dome]

bellow 70C full load

[patent patrol]

electricity too expensive

[past dome]

unc can't comprehend less power = more performance

[heady zenith]

because more power = more perf

just gotta up your cooling game

[past dome]

I raise the power limit by 15%

[heady zenith]

you first follow this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmwaJnj6pfY

then you build a normal OC setup

[past dome]

I tried oc'ing my ram but my mobo says no. 6200mt/s with bad timings was worse than 6000mt/s tight timings

I'm not gonna OC my vram because it will crash my entire PC the moment it's unstable

[heady zenith]

smh not living on the edge

[past dome]

I can try in the future, I just want arc raiders installed already

[heady zenith]

ah didnt overclock your internet yet i see

[patent patrol]

can you overclock the back end

[past dome]

my ISP doubled my speed without asking how dare they

[heady zenith]

ancient advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8zaSFbO5_8

[deep hawk]

At first I thought that was Linus

But the resolution is too high

[heady zenith]

lol

also didnt drop anything

[crude talon]

wow

fashion sleeve, blue sticks, and a makeup brush aswell
very good

[deep hawk]

That looks edible

[crude talon]

just like tidepods very tasty

[crude talon]

so much accessories

[wet coral]

are those... stickers with a hole pattern

[crude talon]

what

[wet coral]

these

[crude talon]

grip tape

I don’t think it’s that uncommon for griptape to have slight dimples and patterns for extra grip
The white dots on it are just printed design though

[lament siren]

this is the first time i seen grip tape like that

beri beri interesting

[obtuse dove]

I have done that to my 5090, scary but fun

I might shunt mod it to get even more voltage out of it

but not my founders edition card though, probably some gigabyte 5090 or something

[vital gorge]

Well.. My 5700xt is now a legacy gpu https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/new-amd-driver-snubs-radeon-rx-5000-6000-gpus-with-latest-updates-also-disables-usb-c-functionality-on-rx-7900-series

[raven leaf]

I thought it was just some bug, oh well

Windows driver moment

[wheat epoch]

It's lacking hardware for some of the new vulkan extensions (mainly av1 but I'm not sure if any of the others have a hardware requirement) but you'll still get regular driver updates

[raven leaf]

Guess I can't "enjoy" BF6 properly then with my hardware, the Godot editor in the Portal SDK only renders exploding vertices in the 3D view.
Unsurprisingly, works perfectly fine on Linux

[lament siren]

what you got?

[raven leaf]

6700 XT

[vital gorge]

Bf6 ran OK on my 5700xt :p

[raven leaf]

Yeah performance is fine but I'd like the editor to render correctly

[wet coral]

like this fr

[wispy blaze]

running decent on my 6900xt

avg like 170-180fps

some maps i get 220-250

1% lows are like 120 tho 💀

1440p with balanced dlss

[obtuse dove]

no FG?

[wispy blaze]

No

[obtuse dove]

not horrible

I usually play BF6 at lower FPS than that, usually I do 120FPS rofl

cauz 4K with DLAA looks heavenly.

overkill settings as well

[wispy blaze]

Yeah mines all low

Whenever I upgrade next itll be to do 240 stable on 1440

1% lows of 200+ would be nice

[wispy blaze]

Or even better

[wet coral]

wonder how my pc would do if i werent using high graphics

[obtuse dove]

Nice

[obtuse dove]

tbh BF6 still looks very good on low settings with DLSS performance

[wispy blaze]

yeah it does

[obtuse dove]

No wonder they have an RTX 3060 as a minimum spec

[wispy blaze]

yeah im not exactly complaining

GRANTED

i did need an fps config to get this fps

on 1440

otherwise id be getting 100-150

[obtuse dove]

Oh?

User.cfg for Frostbite or an Nvidia control panel thing?

[wispy blaze]

usercfg

fr33thy fps cfg

[obtuse dove]

huh

what is that supposed to do?

[wispy blaze]

turns some things down further than you can in actual settings

although i had to turn 1 thing back up because it made the bloom way to bad

that setting did give me like 20-30 more fps off tho

fr33thy runs a paid optimization service for pc's alongside free game cfgs (when games allow it)

[obtuse dove]

nice

[signal willow]

thats cool

[plain schooner]

@viscid bison https://fxtwitter.com/ModsMouse/status/1984384714061603289

PMM (@ModsMouse)

We’ve been working on a wireless version of the PULSE.
︀︀The design is almost finished.
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[round lagoon]

They should name it blitz or Beep

[viscid bison]

3I/Atlas, an homage to our new alien overlords. Or something long and confusing that monitors tend to have

[crude talon]

ofc dell raised the price on the monitor I want by $80 today, I sure wonder how much the price will drop for black friday

[round lagoon]

10 dolla

It's a deal to them

[crude talon]

It’s still cheapest on amazon de but it was a bit closer until yesterday

480eur for the aw2725d on amazon de and about 630eur on proshop and dell in sweden

[urban pendant]

Is there a hardware difference between the 60v2 and 80? I’m planning on buying and enjoy both formats but just curious if one has more features than the other?

[wispy blaze]

No

Just get preferred layout

[jolly pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oju-FbNT5jc

jakubix racing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292258539229679658/1418732375453601792/ezgif-23b247bd421b63.gif

[wispy blaze]

The wootang 80hd🔥

[jolly pulsar]

wutang my beloved

[plain schooner]

https://x.com/ModsMouse/status/1985106398888522232

PMM (@ModsMouse)

PULSE W it is.

Production starts soon.

Should we open pre-orders again so everyone can get the shell type they want?

X · Nov 2, 2025, 10:07 PM

[plain schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1omlc6b/and_here_i_was_handing_out_candy/?

[analog stag]

Anybody up for a challenge? Looking for a mouse for under $100 CAD. I play FPS games, I personally prefer a heavier mouse as I have shaky hands and I’m bit twitchy. I find the weight helps keep my hand steady. I do enjoy having a thumb rest on it as well. I use a palm grip and enjoy the shape and feel of a Corsair M65 Ultra Wireless. (I got it for $50 CAD by RMAing a Katar XT Pro).

[rain turret]

G502 or HoF Tactical comes to mind, for your specific requirements

[analog stag]

Thanks I’ll look into it

[silver topaz]

https://youtu.be/ipYP1SUEY-A?si=_datOfrXb5UhmnaL

[crude talon]

tungsten mouse when

[rain grail]

G502 vs tungsten mouse

[crude talon]

https://tenor.com/view/g502-gif-23544331

[quasi field]

https://wccftech.com/aoc-to-unveil-agon-1000hz-1080p-gaming-monitor-next-year/

"That said, the question is: do we really need a 1000Hz monitor? The simple answer is NO. 1000Hz is just too high to be perceptible to the human eye. There are debates about whether refresh rates higher than 240Hz or 360Hz are even beneficial at all, but for most, these aren't. A 1000Hz display is therefore pointless, but that's not the only concern, since reaching 1000 FPS is the most challenging task."

Awful journalism that reads like a Reddit post

Should I just ignore this entire website?

[patent patrol]

maybe 😭

[deep hawk]

Are they wrong?

[heady zenith]

i mean the human eye cant perceive more than 30fps anyway

[patent patrol]

oh ye mb

[quasi field]

He confidently says it's too high to be perceptible to the human eye without providing any argument

It reads like your average Reddit post whenever high refresh rates are brought up with no understanding of how motion performance works

[deep hawk]

I'd put forth that it's on the manufacturer to prove that such extremes do matter, to counter basic common sense that it doesn't

[quasi field]

What do you mean by matter

[patent patrol]

im sure that it will be easily noticeable compared to the refresh rates we have today

[quasi field]

I'm looking forward to the BlurBusters blind test that will hopefully shut these websites up about this stuff

[deep hawk]

As in, perceptible

I personally can tell the difference between 60hz and 90hz, and if I really focus I can even see the benefit of 165hz

I know for myself that I cannot see the difference at anything greater than that

[patent patrol]

im sure you can

[quasi field]

It will always depend on what the refresh rate it is being compared to is. 1 000 Hz will not look different from 950. But it will look different from 240

[deep hawk]

At Gamescom we had a 600hz monitor that was running at 600+fps and it looked fine, but if I didn't know it said 600hz on the box then I would never have guessed

[quasi field]

That was LCD, wasn't it? It's the biggest difference on oled

[deep hawk]

No, I don't think it would. Not to my tired, old eyes

[quasi field]

Was it running the ufo test or a game? It's easiest to see with the blurbusters test where the speeds are set instead of super variable like in gaming

[rain turret]

if you spent enough time between all the media sources you can cherry pick some useful info out of wccftech, but generally not the first or best one i would read anything from.
It's best read several and come to your own conclusions always, especially if you doN't already have the proper locations locked down.

[quasi field]

Is wccftech one of those websites Quin dislikes

[deep hawk]

A game, because that's.... the point

[patent patrol]

hope we get bigger oled refresh rate upgrades soon

not just 480 to 540

[quasi field]

Of course, but blurbusters will be more immediately noticeable for people that aren't sure what the difference is meant to look like

[deep hawk]

This past weekend I played Detroit: Become Human.
When I started the game up, it defaulted to capping the FPS at 30. I was like "oh hell nah" and maxed it out to being capped at 60fps.
This is far less than my computer could run it, but did that matter? No. I enjoyed the game tremendously, and after leaving the settings menu, never once thought about refresh rate.

[quasi field]

Most people clearly do not understand what the visual difference is between high and very high refresh rates which is why they simplify it all to being «smoother» even though the point at which the image stops updating in a stuttery manner to our eyes is at around 100 Hz or so on oleds

[quasi field]

I didn't enjoy the game that much because it makes you do menial tasks all the time like lifting a wine bottle up, taking the cap off and pouring it after pressing various button combinations

[patent siren]

We might not "see above 30 fps" but we are very sensitive to frame pacing, and jittery frames where things display between 45 fps and 120fps, for example, will still throw us off heavily.

It's a far more complex topic than just frames per second.

[deep hawk]

The fact of the matter is that increasing refresh rate over a bare minimum suffers from diminishing returns. For me, that line is very securely before 240hz and probably below 120hz

[heady zenith]

yes cause eyes dont work like monitors or cameras

[patent siren]

Yeah

Agreed on diminishing returns.

[heady zenith]

but mark..... big number go up, monkey brain happy

[patent patrol]

i need more hz

[patent siren]

Smooth and consistent 60 fps is much better than jittery 90-240 fps

[patent patrol]

480hz not enough

[quasi field]

There are diminishing returns but as non-Wooting Mark said they curve really far

My 240 Hz oled still has noticeable blur

[heady crystal]

Yeah, this is something I've been noticing more recently as an OLED enjoyer. VRR flicker is noticeable and outside of a competitive title, I'll take a stable 60 FPS just to avoid the flicker.

[patent patrol]

ill maybe upgrade to 600hz oled

but probably need a new cpu for that xd

[heady crystal]

60 FPS with good frame pacing, at least for me, is fine for a story game... which is pretty much all I play these days.

[patent siren]

Yeah, the VRR flicker is real, even with GSYNC/Freesync and a strong card.

[patent patrol]

dont use VRR

[patent siren]

The VRR does reduce tearing though.

[patent patrol]

i got no tearing

[crude talon]

my front side button is mushy 🥀 its so over

[patent siren]

At 4k resolution, with RT and Path Tracing in Cyberpunk, I definitely need VRR enabled.

(Or I need to disable RT hehe)

[crude talon]

ended up getting a fiio k11 for about half the price of a new one, hope my aliexpress cable for my headphones comes soon

[vital gorge]

Just vsync at those high refresh rates

The next slot to display a frame is so soon..

[patent patrol]

goated

although i still got some weird audio issues on windows

maybe gotta reinstall

[plain schooner]

@hazy fiber genuinely the VV3P stays king imo

[hazy fiber]

Not without PMM mod kit 😭 I use Crazylight now

[rain turret]

no clue, why would that matter

[quasi field]

It's probably bad if he does

[rain turret]

no comment on that, but if you care the earlier response is the experienced answer i can give

[patent siren]

Wccftech frequently reposts other people's stuff.

They don't really offer much value.

[plain schooner]

Legit might buy the mini later this year and have two VV3P

One for gaming and one for grinding

[obtuse dove]

there is already 780Hz OLEDs LMAO

[patent patrol]

they dont count

real resolutions

[obtuse dove]

lmao why?

[obtuse dove]

what is a real resolution then?

[patent patrol]

1440p+

[obtuse dove]

720p is deffo a real and legitament res

[patent patrol]

no

[obtuse dove]

then just say high res

[patent patrol]

that aint high res

way too pixely

[obtuse dove]

1080p is considered high res idk man

[patent patrol]

20 years ago

[obtuse dove]

at least in most industries its considered high res

1440p is usually considered ultra HD

[patent patrol]

??

[obtuse dove]

?????

[mental spade]

Ultra HD is definitely 4K+ marketing term

[patent patrol]

ye

[mental spade]

1440p is like Quad HD or 2k

[obtuse dove]

oh yeh

cauz its 4x the pixels of 1080p

[mental spade]

720p*

[quasi field]

Not 2k!!!!!!!

[obtuse dove]

then there is 2.5k which is the 16:10 version of 1440p

[patent patrol]

Crt monitors got so many pixels

[quasi field]

2,5k is a much better term for 2560x1440p

2k does not fit it. It's brainlessly applied

[mental spade]

I'm not saying the marketing is technically correct but it is advertised as 2k occasionally

[quasi field]

Sadly...
Looking at BenQ

[patent patrol]

are we okay with 5 and 6 k

[mental spade]

I mean 4k is also not technically 4k

But here we are

[quasi field]

«true» 4k is a 17:9 resolution

But since most consumer displays are 16:9, the resolution is slightly different horizontally

[mental spade]

Yeah cinema it's 4096x2160 and at 16:9 it's 3840x2160 so sub 4k

[quasi field]

That's why UHD works as a name

[patent patrol]

thats why i call it 3.75k

[quasi field]

I call it 3,840k

[patent patrol]

do you call 4k 4,096k

[quasi field]

Yes

[patent patrol]

[silver topaz]

[patent siren]

meanwhile no tips

[silver topaz]

Ikr

Oh wait it does

[patent siren]

oh wow that's actually in good shape

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VkqCiujTGE

Huh, a more relaxed hd600 for $100.

Also I might get hd560 or something similar as a beater headphone.

Something for me to bring around without much care especially since it's very close with hd490 just with different treble.

[quasi field]

Every month you buy something new

[heady crystal]

The joys of disposable income

[crude talon]

well keyboard has to move down a solid 10cm now so I suppose I’ll have to get a new desk aswell 👍

[slate forge]

My last keyboard was a Anne pro II and I upgraded to a wooting 60he is that a w or l

[frigid ivy]

Anne pro 2 was pretty nice at the time. But yeah the wooting is better in almost every way

[round lagoon]

I'll feel like I'll hate the headphone. Too much bass

[ember kindle]

guys i just pre ordered the wooting 60he v2 as a person who mostly plays fortnite was it a good decision or nah?

also should i get the viper v3 pro or the logitech gpro x superlight 2?

[spare glacier]

I’ve got no idea about Fortnite but the Viper V3 Pro is an absolutely brilliant mouse.

[quasi field]

Which one

[round lagoon]

Hedd D1

[quasi field]

That's too much bass for you? That's what I call bass-shy

That little bass sounds unnatural to me

[ember kindle]

ok thx

[silver topaz]

Both mouses are amazing. Only issue I have with razer is that their software is super bloated

[obtuse dove]

whatver shape you think is more comfortable to you.

both are good, but it really comes down to your preference with the shape

[waxen panther]

I prefer logi just cause I hate Razer software

[plain schooner]

Viper V3 Pro easily

@hazy fiber

[wheat epoch]

If you care about battery life the superlight should be better but other than that they're both fine

If you get the superlight you beed to replace the stock feet though

If you don't really care about battery life at all the xm2w 4k should be better

And if you want something cheaper you might be able to get a lamzu maya x for a decent price

[lunar niche]

Fuck yeah, I was given a pile of Unifi APs for free and one of them works 😤

[vital gorge]

Which ap

[blissful gust]

It's sooo good battery wise

It makes my g703 look so bad battery wise

[patent siren]

I just dumped my literally worn out G703 and moved to the new x pro superlight 2 dex (because naming skus need to be ridiculous) and am very happy with it

But what's the deal with the feet?

[lunar niche]

They're all AC Pros (4g/5g)

[vital gorge]

Not bad

[turbid tinsel]

I prefer Zowie. No software needed, solid scroll wheel (had two Deathadder V3 Pro get the same scroll wheel issue within a year). Built like a tank, and the IMO best ergo shape there is on the EC. Very good glides.

[deft current]

Got a number of these scattered around the house, has been flawless coverage around the house and garage for years now. Just wish they had PoE switches when I was building my home network, now they do though. Just waiting for the right time for upgrade.

[vital gorge]

I got a u6 pro and u6 lr

Both work great

[lunar niche]

Yeah I've found them really reliable and effective. PoE is wonderful to keep things clean too.

[heady zenith]

copying ny setup i see

[vital gorge]

I regret the lr :p
Pro is better apparently

[vital gorge]

Do you also have a cloud gateway max and a usw lite 16 poe?

[heady zenith]

im looking at a DM pro max

[vital gorge]

Isn't that kinda outdated now?

[heady zenith]

wut lol no

[vital gorge]

Oh that is the new one

[heady zenith]

yes

[vital gorge]

It's really expensive

[heady zenith]

yeah but it also covers all my needs in 1 swoop

the DM SE could have also done POE for me but id rather have another 1.5gbps routing capacity

[vital gorge]

Hm. Cloud gateway max and a switch does the same

[heady zenith]

well yesnt

the cloud gateway max has 0 hdd bays

[vital gorge]

Sdd tray

[heady zenith]

and since i wanna invest in some cameras soon the dm pro/se/pro max are a way better optioon for me

i get 128gb ssd and 2 3.5" bays

i think the ssd could be swapped if im brave enough to open it

[vital gorge]

Gateway max has an ssd slot. Works fine. Low power consumption as well

[heady zenith]

eh the low power isnt smth im interested in really as the DM pro max also idles at low power

[vital gorge]

But with spinny drives?

They will never idle with cameras

Cloud Gateway Fiber has built in storage. And 10gig in, 2.5gig switch

[heady zenith]

drives are like what

yeah i think im fine

thats a 22tb exos

[vital gorge]

And when writing?

[heady zenith]

read line 2

[vital gorge]

22tb?
Also a Nas then

[heady zenith]

actually i havent checked if it can be used as a nas

i know the NVR works for the cams

[vital gorge]

Why 22tb.do you want to store half a year of camera footage?

[heady zenith]

no i want high res

their cams can do 4k (i want 1080p prob)

and a few rooms

• balcony and maybe front door if i can get a nice angle

[vital gorge]

With 4 cameras I have data back till 24th oktober on a 1tb ssd

2 g5 bullets 1 g4 instant 1 g4 doorbell

Doorbell actually goes back to sept 6th

So uh.. 22tb is very much overkill 🙂

[heady zenith]

24th only

but that gives me hope i could do a month on 4k even

i also overbuilt before where for 2 pcs and like 3 phones or smth i has a usg-4-pro, 24 port switch, 2 APs and such

that setup i used for like 6yrs or so

but i also never reached the max use until i moved to to NL and can do more stuff now

[vital gorge]

I believe they have a storage calculator

[heady zenith]

yeah i could do a month in 4k

also nice to know they have a calculator

good to know for when im done with building a nas

[heady crystal]

The UniFi smart doorbell (and chime) is really cool considering it's actually locally hosted/stored unlike basically every other mainstream option

TFW people unironically buy a Ring doorbell

[obtuse dove]

thing with unifi is that you need either a UniFi Cloud Gateway or a UnifiProtect NVR

[vital gorge]

8?!

[vital gorge]

There's a couple of options indeed.

[obtuse dove]

true

[vital gorge]

Too many tbh

[heady zenith]

i have a corridor i need 2 in alone and a bigger room i calculated with 3 in here cause its really shit to get good angles to see much

[obtuse dove]

I am tempted to add UniFi Physical access control to all the outside doors of the house

[vital gorge]

I.. Just use keys

[vital gorge]

Why are you surveiling your entire home?

2 outside, 1 in the kids room and the doorbell.

[obtuse dove]

need to keep in mind their context that they may not live in the best neighborhood.

[deep hawk]

To catch on video all the whacky shit his cats do

[obtuse dove]

real

[vital gorge]

And all the nasty shit they do themselves :p

[obtuse dove]

if the LPL taught me anything, every type of physical key can be bypassed in seconds

[vital gorge]

I'd be very uncomfortable with cameras in my house

[vital gorge]

For a very skilled lockpick yes..

[obtuse dove]

and that is scary.

[patent siren]

He's almost inhumanly good with picks.

Just having something that can survive a kick is more important than a pick. Very few burglars actually have picks. Most are doing mule kicks. (unless you're dealing with padlocks or bike locks)

[deep hawk]

The best defense is to not be the most attractive target

[patent siren]

and if you care about pick resistance, then being bump and rake resistance is enough

because virtually zero burglars are master picks

[obtuse dove]

I already use metal doors and door frames LMAO

the police cant raid my house through the front door if they tried LMAO

[patent siren]

and yeah, not profiling your belongings (and therefore not being attractive as a target) is obviously the real key

[vital gorge]

The window it is then

[obtuse dove]

true that LMAO. but they all have glass breakage sensors on them.

[deep hawk]

That's why I don't live on the ground floor - ain't no way some thief who is too lazy to hold down a real job is going to climb all those stairs

[patent siren]

But in most regions the burglary attacks are:

1. mule kick, walk in, close door behind
2. drill the lock
3. window entry (this is more rare than you think).
   .....
   way down on the list are rakes/bumps

and virtually nonexistent are pick attacks

garage door entry is also a thing

folks that gap them in the hot months are vulnerable and shouldn't do that

around here, we had folks with small children (like 4 or 5) who would send their small children to squeeze under gapped garage doors and then hit the door opener in the garage, then mom and dad would drive a van into the garage, close the door, loot the electronics and jewelry in the house, load the van, open the garage again, and drive off with the munchkin kid.

[obtuse dove]

thats crazy lmao

but I never do that

[patent siren]

folks thought they were okay with small gaps in the doors... If a child's head can fit, they're vulnerable.

[obtuse dove]

I just let the HVAC fan run every 30 minutes instead of keeping a gap in the garage

[patent siren]

and it leaves no signs of forced entry, and doesn't make noise or take much time, so neighbors and passers-by don't notice

[heady zenith]

yes

actually cause idk how they do some shit while we sleep

[patent siren]

I have bengals. I have no clue how they do some shit they do when I watch them do it.

[blissful gust]

My anxiety feels this

I hate living on ground floor

[blissful gust]

After 2am my cats pretty much settle till around 4:30-5am and they snuggle up to me. I know because I sadly wake up every hour or two

[mental spade]

well having lived in some pretty shitty flats that did get broken into we had someone climb up to our balcony and get in through the door up there that someone left unlocked and we had someone attempt to crowbar one of the downstairs windows open (unsuccessfully)

[plain schooner]

Wlmouse phantom @viscid bison

[viscid bison]

at first I thought not another WL with a furry dongle and then realized the lack of holes. If only I could read mandarin to make sense of the specs; looks nice though

[wet coral]

why is my dongle mad at me

[plain schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1oqopg3/

[hazy fiber]

Looks like vv3 tbh

[viscid bison]

so it has voice recognition, hey furry mice... make my sniping better in BF6

[hazy fiber]

Viper/GPX/Maya X

[wet coral]

bro why is aim steadying and the guns firing mode the same keybind

it pisses me off

[viscid bison]

my steadying is left shift

[obtuse dove]

in what game?

[wet coral]

bf6

wait no

mb not aim steadying

rangefinder (on sniper)

[obtuse dove]

the rangefinder keybind is B iirc

not left shift

by default

[wet coral]

yeah and so is fire select

[obtuse dove]

unless you messed up your bindings

[obtuse dove]

only when you arent ADS

when you are ADS it will be used for changing the range

or using the laser rangefinder if you hold it

[wet coral]

i was so confused why my smg kept switching to semi-auto

[obtuse dove]

while ADS

[obtuse dove]

yeah, you press B while ADS to change the range of the scope

[wet coral]

ik that

i changed it to shift so it would do thst automatically when i steadied the aim

and whenever i swap to a different gun (aka an smg) it keeps switching between semi, burst, and full auto whenever i sprint

[obtuse dove]

ok so, you need to change the binding to just set rangefinder and not change fire mode/set scope range/set laser rangefinder options

[wet coral]

ngl i might not use the rangefinder cause i cant hit shit with it 💀

[obtuse dove]

I like to use the laser rangefinder

allows me to hit pretty consistent headshots

esp when you go to like 200M+

[wet coral]

ive used the sniper for maybe.. 10minutes out of my 20h of playtime

[obtuse dove]

the Mini Scout (based on The Q The Fix) is very broken in BF6

[wet coral]

i might just need to sit on a mountain and play sniper more

[obtuse dove]

no, most maps in BF6 favor a very aggressive sniper type playstyle lol

except maybe blackwell fields and firestorm

[viscid bison]

grind(or pay) for the Mini Scout and the 10x scope, the ADS is so fast you won't really need the rangefinder. Just spam and the kills will come

[wet coral]

idk maps by name, i just queue and scroll till it starts lol

[obtuse dove]

I love the Mini Scout

[obtuse dove]

although they are 100% going to nerf it

even though the only issue with the Mini scout is that it has no sweet spot, that is it's only debuff

and it doesnt do as much damage as the other snipers past like 200m

[viscid bison]

yeah I can't decide if it's better than the PSR, both pretty good

[obtuse dove]

but you trade that off with a very fast ADS, movement, and fire rate

[obtuse dove]

it's like the SVK but its an actual sniper which makes it broken LMAO

[viscid bison]

[wispy blaze]

I only use it past 300m

250m and below im far more consistent having it zeroed at 100

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNRfOY89Dg

hmm, depending the freq, I might like this.

~500 euro.

[quasi field]

I had the first one which was horrible. The tonality was really bad and worst of all it was hard to get satisfying results with EQ because of how much the sound would dramatically change based on how the headphones were worn. I sold it within my first week

And no there was zero sense of speaker-like soundstage/imaging. It just sounded like a bad headphone

[silver topaz]

Hmmm I shouldn't be spending more money but like...

[glossy shale]

@amber beacon cameo

[rich condor]

My Burson amp popped out the magic smoke, anyone got a good suggestion for a Focal utopia?

[elfin kayak]

schiit mjolnir

[round lagoon]

https://www.hisenior-iem.com/products/mega7-uiem

same driver config as Astral but with branded driver.

very very similar tuning to astral. @abstract warren your prev iem now got a cousin with BMW

at $450... Hmm, not sure about the price.

[plain schooner]

How’d the pro end up turning out?

[abstract warren]

similar, but more full bodied fidelity imo with added power, but thats probably bc they fit in 10 drivers in there.

[round lagoon]

10 driver is nice

[plain schooner]

Should I upgrade my tops to the pro in the coming year?

[abstract warren]

oooh you got the OGs?

jealous

[plain schooner]

Yeh they were pricey though

Before tariffs

[abstract warren]

they will have a slight different tuning, but honestly you might have better quality if you saved for MK4s if you wanted a better upgrade path

might be more of a side grade

[abstract warren]

my left IEM broke for my OG top which is why im not using them anymore, but i miss them so much

@plain schooner TL;DR they will be good, but going from Top to Top Pro wont feel as impactful as going from a non Top IEM to the pro

if you wanna drop on a pair I think saving for the MK4 makes sense

[plain schooner]

It’s gonna be a while yeah

A YouTuber a follow made a “tier” list of iems

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1sHR4QwC1-YprWbjDEHtrz9qCQskY_uuOsAo-Amjznts/htmlview

[abstract warren]

its basically for the tuning: Astrals --> Top Pro --> Monarch Mk4

[abstract warren]

thats how I discovered the OG hehe

@plain schooner

[round lagoon]

fuwee, monarch mark 4, unobtanium for me

[bitter ore]

damn looks sick

[abstract warren]

yeah im personally torn if i would go MK4

top matches top pros faceplate but the bottom red/gold/purple is sick af

[bitter ore]

ye id take the red and purple for sure

simple and pleasent

[plain schooner]

They look like little metroids

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-happy-gif-4924236

[abstract warren]

I really want that MK4 rumble mode tho

[twilit flame]

I wonder what they taste like

[abstract warren]

you should try the tea pros

great crunch experience

[twilit flame]

I will if you kindly donate them to my possession for testing

[bitter ore]

for sure

[abstract warren]

@tawny kernel

give the man some crunch

[bitter ore]

looks like aluminium foil fried in crude oil

the crunch would be crazy

[plain schooner]

I’ll probably upgrade to the Mk4 sometime next year

[amber beacon]

whaow! where is this from?

[glossy shale]

rawinput setups part 2

[glossy shale]

pinguefy said your setup has too much stuff on the desk to play fps on😭

https://youtu.be/viNo3g5pGOE?si=IyIYM1tkjHxeOg9u

[amber beacon]

oh boy loll

they are awesome peeps glad to see my setup there

[glossy shale]

atleast they gave it s tier

[bitter ore]

compared to optimum

[tawny kernel]

il give crunch when mango he come out

[wet coral]

@abstract warren

https://tenor.com/view/luccabug-side-eye-cat-luccabug-cats-gif-4837800896815179590

though i do wanna order through amazon

[round lagoon]

DO IT DO IT DO IT

ONE OF US!!!!

[wet coral]

ill wait a lil longer

[round lagoon]

it's okay, you'll come around

[wet coral]

i got this in my cart rn

[round lagoon]

nice nice

[abstract warren]

thats probably the best price you'll get

[glossy shale]

bro consoom more you need dac+amp and cable

[round lagoon]

no no, that's all you need

[glossy shale]

no no

dac+ amp and cabel

[round lagoon]

he already has those, (one included with IEM), and the DAC+AMP being the first item at the top

[glossy shale]

he need new

old is kaput

[twilit flame]

Soon™️

[tawny kernel]

ig lekker v1s will do for now

[twilit flame]

One should be shrouded in engulfing darkness before they can witness the spark of the light piercing through.

[tawny kernel]

im a bit dense what u say

[twilit flame]

Mangohe good

[tawny kernel]

better be

[twilit flame]

Crunchier than raptor v2, magnet infused with crunchy material

[clear mantle]

You’d be better off with Beyerdynamic DT1990s v2 or Beyerdynamic 990 pro x or Beyerdynamic dt 900 pro x you won’t have to deal with any of the discomfort you get in your ears with IEMs having hard plastic in your ears they Beyerdynamic sound way better and have a wider sound stage and gives you a more immersive and realistic sound and you really feel like you’re in the game and they are very light and forget they are even on your head and can hear yourself when you’re talking so you’re not yelling really loudly compared to IEMs which isolate all outside sound.

[wet coral]

i dont really mind the feeling of having iems in my ears as i use airpods a lot and currently also using iems

i also prefer to just not use headphones

[round lagoon]

Iem is fine comfort wise, although i main headphone at home I still use IEM when my ears misbehave.

Also like. Beyer treble could be horrible for him

[clear mantle]

You should try the 64 audio U12T heard those are the most comfortable IEMs out and you can scan your ears and get them custom fit to your ears so they fit perfect not too big not too small and don’t fall out and have no sound leak cuz the seal on them is really good and increases the noise cancellation on them.

[wet coral]

dude those are 6x the price of the iems im looking at

im not even buying it rn over a $20 potential extra discount

those headphones are double, almost 2 and 1/2 times the price of the astral iems

[crude talon]

I bought a demo aw2725df because proshop offered 20% extra discount, I could return it if the aw2725d I was originally planning on goes crazy low during bf

pray half the pixels are dead

[mental spade]

Wouldn't say beyerdynamic is what I would be recommending either, there are much better headphones for less money. Beyers have a weird curve and are super bright

[wet coral]

if i didnt have a budget for what id spend ill ball out but theres a reason i selected astrals

[quasi field]

Beyerdynamics are usually very outdated recommendations. Especially DT990 etc.

Lol

[round lagoon]

Would still be cool to try it someday

[obtuse dove]

that is an ear piercing treble holyyyyy

[quasi field]

Yeah and good luck fixing it with EQ without just doing a wideband lowering that includes surrounding frequencies which might hurt overall tonality by lowering ones that aren't too bright. It's a headphone I consider unfixable. Probably mainly popular due to amateur studio YouTubers or gamers and the wide availability

[obtuse dove]

I personally mainly use HD650 most of the time, probably my favorite 'standard use' headphones that I can plesantly use without an EQ

I also have Audeze LCD-5, but those were exorbitantly expensive lmao.

[quasi field]

I would just EQ the LCD-5 and never use the HD650 again

Well okay realistically I would just sell the overly expensive headphones and get something cheaper

Or maybe buy two 8341A

[obtuse dove]

well it was already bought, lmao

and I like them so they are a keep

[lament siren]

what headphones do you use

[vital gorge]

They are quite sturdy thought.

[round lagoon]

Hd490 pro

[lament siren]

i got the sennheiser HD 560s

but its a love hate relationship

[round lagoon]

Mine is all love, can't go a day without 10 min music listen with it

It's right on my preference lmao

[lament siren]

i'll give yours a try one of these day

the hd 560s feels like cheap fucking plastic on my head

and sometimes gives me jaw and head pressure

[obtuse dove]

some sennheiser headphones have very high clamping pressures yeah

[round lagoon]

From the graph, imagine hd560s but with more refinement and an option to give it bass through a headpad swap.

[obtuse dove]

although I dont get that on the HD650, which is nice

[lament siren]

maybe mine not broken in yet

only had it for two months

[obtuse dove]

they do have a break in period.

[lament siren]

like 7 motnhs ?

[round lagoon]

Gonna get 560s someday. I wanna use it as a beater headphone

[obtuse dove]

for me it was more like one year

you can probably speed it up with a headphone stand

[lament siren]

hopefully you have a better experience than me

im switching between iems and this and having a rough time

some days

[quasi field]

560S better imo. Btw you can lower the clamp by pulling the headband a bit. Though don't blame me if you do it too hard and it snaps

[lament siren]

yeah feels cheap and probably would snap it in half

right now im trying to find dual head band

[obtuse dove]

the plastic is pretty good, as long as you arent unreasonable with the force they wont break

[lament siren]

true

if i snap it i have another reason to buy a new pair of headphones

[bitter sapphire]

just use a hammer on it

[round lagoon]

Meze Empyrian time

[obtuse dove]

dual headband is very nice, my LCD-5 is dual headband and its the most comfortable headphones I have.

[lament siren]

no one remembers what happened to logitech gxp

[obtuse dove]

and it weighs less than 500 grams

[lament siren]

[lament siren]

i had a steel series one even though audio was meh comfort wise it was amazing

but its also steel series

[quasi field]

They sound much worse than the 560S imo (and I think he would agree), but they are comfortable and luxurious

[round lagoon]

Capra strap exist if you want to add the suspension headband on 560s

[lament siren]

😭

[round lagoon]

Lmao

[obtuse dove]

you do not want to know how much I spent on the LCD-5

[lament siren]

how much?

[round lagoon]

Hd490 is all you(I) need. Anything more headphone wise to me is a luxury

[obtuse dove]

like 4000 used LMAO

usd

friend had them and needed cash, so bro sold it to me. they were lightly used and I like them a lot.

[round lagoon]

What a nice friend (you both).

[quasi field]

Are you using an overpriced amplifier and dac too?

[obtuse dove]

no not really, I am still trying to find a decent DAC/AMP combo LMAO

[quasi field]

JBS Labs Element IV is fantastic

[obtuse dove]

ooh! nice and small!

[quasi field]

Looks nice imo, has a large upward facing knob that is both fun and comfortable to use, has built-in parametric EQ and loudness correction that you can configure all in a browser and has it stored on the device akin to Wooting's browser software

And of course it sounds completely transparent and has plenty of power

[obtuse dove]

nice, I will consider!

[glossy shale]

thats 25% above msrp?

[obtuse dove]

last I checked they were 4500 on their website

dunno where you got 3500 from.

[glossy shale]

last time i checked (1 minute ago) they were 2999

[obtuse dove]

that sounds like used/refurbished price

LCD-5 usually go for 4500 new

[glossy shale]

wait nvm im looking at the wrong headphones

[obtuse dove]

rofl, happens

[quasi field]

They have went up around 15 000 NOK ($1500) since they released for me

[glossy shale]

anyway what difference is there with these and some random 100$ buck pair of headphones on the store shelf

[quasi field]

There is no inherent difference between headphones based on price

There is really nothing about the LCD-5 that justifies its price of course

You can easily get headphones that are much cheaper such as below $200 that you might find much better sounding

[glossy shale]

audiophiles are under some consuming virus

[quasi field]

Though «random $100 buck pair of headphones on the store shelf» would essentially just be a guess and so many would no doubt be terrible. This is why online measurements (and yes measurements, not people just yapping) are so important and useful for finding out what is actually good or not before investing in it

[proper vector]

But have you ever listened to oxygen-free copper cables?

[glossy shale]

Nope

[proper vector]

Also remember about golden-plated USB cables, you don't want any interference in your digital data

[glossy shale]

my keyboard cable has gold plated usb

[proper vector]

Ah, so it must sound really good

[glossy shale]

It is

sometimes the the inputs happen by me just thinking about them without moving my finger

[quasi field]

Imagine not having a 2 000 pound ethernet filter to widen the soundstage, lower the noise, increase the analogue sound and tighten the bass
https://youtu.be/5KsPs91_7nc

Oh and lower jitter of course. Always the jitter boogeyman

[glossy shale]

what the hell is this

[obtuse dove]

if you want truly interference free signal transfer just use good ol optical fiber LMAO

[quasi field]

Pure nonsense just like anything shown on that channel. His entire gimmick is rejecting the idea of blind testing to justify the supposed subtle or major differences all the various electronic devices make on the sound whether they are digital or not

[proper vector]

Does it help with bufferbloat though
You know, after all we are still in the 90s and routers still don't have 2GB of RAM

[glossy shale]

why are there people in the comments saying its great etc

[quasi field]

Because they are misled

Most of the audiophile hobby is just thriving on bullshit and so I don't like the idea of considering myself one

This is me fr...

[glossy shale]

oh

ethernet filters are an audiophile thing?

[quasi field]

I care about high-fidelity, which means accuracy. I don't care about «high-end» because high-end does not mean high-fidelity

[quasi field]

Yes

And thousand dollar cables with random batteries attached that aren't even connected to anything

And bags of crystals attached to plugs to remove unwanted fantastical energies

They are basically just the Christian priests that show up in Conjuring movies to bless the house and banish the demon but with zero of the coolness factor or usefulness

[heady crystal]

[glossy shale]

Lol

they should consider moving to a location thats in accordance with the leylines

[heady crystal]

Build your own power grid to isolate the bad frequencies

[glossy shale]

mage summoning rituals might interfere with electric signals

[heady crystal]

It's just as bad as those people who think Bluetooth, WiFi, and cellular connections cause headaches etc

[quasi field]

https://www.taiwanexcellence.org/en/award/product/1130560

[heady crystal]

Anybody who buys this should be forced to listen to their favourite tracks via YouTube Music and $20 earphones.

[quasi field]

This has two good audiophile cliches packaged into one

It caters to both beginners and professionals, offering flexible power options and advanced noise reduction features
The noise boogeyman

With its professional hardware and software design, it delivers a sound quality that rivals traditional analog or vinyl records
Thinking analogue formats are higher quality than digital

[heady crystal]

Me enjoying Dolby Atmos music on Apple Music via AirPods Pro 3

Audiophiles would hate me

[quasi field]

Because many will cling to stereotypes and outdated ideas

Wireless automatically bad
Apple automatically bad
Gaming headset automatically bad

[heady crystal]

I could fuck with a Sonos setup to be honest

Rather than an AV receiver setup for a similar price

[plain schooner]

I think the dumbest one is people who think higher hz is stupid as well

[quasi field]

For displays?

[plain schooner]

Yeh!

What is it where people say there’s no point going past 120

[quasi field]

I wouldn't call it the dumbest one since it's usually born out of marketing skepticism (something audiophiles need more of)

They're wrong but I don't find it too dumb

Compare it to how streaming websites or websites to buy music files from will try to sell you 192 kHz music over lower sample rates. That is stupid of course because 192 kHz isn't just pointless but it can even be harmful

[plain schooner]

I didn’t know that

[quasi field]

So 480 Hz monitors will to many just seem like a higher but undetectable number made for marketing hype

[quasi field]

24/192 music downloads and why they make no sense
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

[proper vector]

16/48 is more than enough
Good luck with reproducing analog 24-bit, not sure if it's even possible with current technology
Not to mention that people won't hear a difference between 16 and 24 anyway
And 192000 samples per second is just a waste of space

[quasi field]

I haven't seen a single dac capable of 24 bits

The very best ones I see measured are in the 22 bit range I think

But yeah 24 bits is a waste of space anyway

[heady crystal]

[proper vector]

I found 21 at most effective
Where 19 is already so precise to be used in cardiac diagnostics

[quasi field]

When I download music at 24 bit 192 kHz (I only do this when I want a DSD master etc.) I downsample it to 16 bit 44,1 kHz with the slowest compression to save the most space

Well actually for 192 kHz I do 48 kHz, 44,1 kHz is for 176,4 kHz which is usually what the DSD masters I download are converted to

DSD is kind of meh as a format. But some of the masters are excellent. Always converted it to flac

[proper vector]

I just rip stuff off of Tidal
And for some music not there there are CD rips

[quasi field]

Most of my music is the original CD release of whatever album it is, some are a specific DSD remaster if I like the sound more, a few are modern remasters that I enjoy more than the original ones

My #1 problem with streaming is being forced to listen the most recent release of an album which is often bad sounding

[proper vector]

My problem with streaming is that my favourite songs just disappear because of publisher squabbles
And it happened multiple time already
So yeah, I may use Tidal to find new stuff I like, but my collection is local and not touchable by any greedy music exec

[quasi field]

This too

Every streaming site I use have inadequate libraries

And no not every artist is super obscure or something like that. Massive Attack just recently left Spotify for example and I listen to them

That was in political protest however, not a licencing issue

[glossy shale]

airpods dont support lossless tho

[glossy shale]

silly you

its just noise why would you ever get attached to somethig like that? Just go to work bro. There is money to be made and beer to be drank!

[proper vector]

[quasi field]

Lossless matters only 1% as much as how good the headphones are

[heady crystal]

Every so often publishers will change the metadata for something on Apple Music and it'll fuck with my library.

Usually splitting an album into two albums

[glossy shale]

so ive heard but its just a waste of data to stream lossless with wireless heaphones is it not?

[heady crystal]

Or the randomly delisting an album for a day or two to relist under slightly different metadata so you have to re-add the tracks etc

Maybe the answer is to just buy CDs again

Going to become like Hideo Kojima and wall-to-wall physical media

[quasi field]

One of the reasons why I stopped using streaming services was because of the awful names of songs and albums. I faintly remember Black Sabbath's self-titled album having song names like Black Sabbath (2009 Remaster) [2014 Remastered] and stuff

I desperately want to be in control of the media I use. Getting to name them what I want and also to use high quality album covers etc.

Organising and perfecting them is too much fun for me to ever go back to streaming

[proper vector]

For one thing I quite like remasters of 80s albums
When there were the times that during mastering separate instruments were assigned to separate left-right channels to make them sound more "hi-fi"
Yeah, I do enjoy hearing drums only in my left ear and main guitar only in right

[heady crystal]

Loudness war

The remasters pretty much always sound better.

[quasi field]

Wasn't that a 50s/60s thing not an 80s thing

[proper vector]

80s rock is full of this stuff

[quasi field]

Beatles albums have the old school stereo mixes where everything is either hard-panned left/right or completely in the middle

Sounds fine on my speakers but on headphones not using crossfeed it sucks

[heady crystal]

I'm pretty much an album listener rather than playlists of assorted tracks, I'm probably already at the threshold that just buying the albums from local music stores would save me money.

Even if Apple One is included in my cellular contract until my renewal next September.

[proper vector]

If Tidal wasn't 2.5€ with my brother's student discount I'd probably wouldn't use it either

[heady crystal]

I used to buy albums and then just rip other stuff as 320kbps MP3 from Google Play Music

Back before they killed that service.

[quasi field]

I used to buy albums digitally but that was a huge huge mistake. Now I just download for free which is the wisest choice

I've lost access to downloading several of the albums I bought years ago due to licence issues etc.

You will own nothing etc.

[heady crystal]

My collection is some Final Fantasy XIV albums (although those are Blu-ray discs with a network transfer function for 320kbps MP3s), the first 6 DragonForce albums, and the first 4 Steel Panther albums.

Totally not a PC gear conversation

Most of my physical collection are vinyl records, not CDs... even if one vinyl record is about the cost of 5 CDs

[quasi field]

I sold my vinyl records

[mental spade]

I have a decent vinyl collection and none of them have ever been played 👀

[silver topaz]

I have a decent little one also, except I play most of mine

[lunar niche]

I buy CDs and rip 'em to my NAS. "Ownership" is nice.

[wispy trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/like-cat-funny-cat-like-smol-gif-17770654428999084966

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGlVJ1511T8

Fiio JT7.

top band looks really similar to hd490 pro lmao. At least it can also fold like that.

But uhhh. Too much treble for me.

hd490 is just at my limit of treble with mixing pad, so anything higher I'll feel discomfort.

[quasi field]

Very ugly treble on that thing

It's a roller coaster even under 5k

[round lagoon]

JT7 is $110

[round lagoon]

I guess, close with ft1 pro in comes to tuning but ft1 pro has a lot less dips

I feel like this better as a $200 or even $300 where they can afford to do more refinement on the tuning. Make it like, an FT2 pro.

[quasi field]

I find that treble unacceptable regardless of price. It's lo-fi

[frigid ivy]

giga shout lol

[glossy shale]

i wonder if they are better than ft1

idk how to interpret that graph thingy

[quasi field]

It has low quality upper-mids and treble

Here's another headfone with lo-fi upper-mids/treble

Here's lo-fi versus hi-fi. Notice how the green line is far smooth with less sharp holes or peaks from 2k to 6k on the horizontal line? That's what you always want. It's more important than adherence to a target imo because bad peaks and dips can often not be fixed with EQ like the Sony has, while a smooth fr that adheres or not to anything can easily be shaped however you want. You can mostly ignore that they look «bad» at even higher frequencies like this, that's just what happens to very high frequency audio passing through ear canals

That lo-fi headphone is currently $1899 currently btw. So it is definitely high-end. I find it striking and comfortable but ultimately not good sounding and the horrible resonance (the sharp peak) it has at just above 3k is unfixable

So keep in mind that high-end does not make something hi-fi. HD560S is a much better headphone

[obtuse dove]

Holyyyyy

[lunar niche]

The z1r was pretty disappointing. I still won’t get rid of them though 😊

[quasi field]

It was both disappointing to me and not. I knew of the measurements when I bought mine years ago and so buying it was stupid of me. But back then I was still in my audiophool stage from using Headfi and listening to shitty YouTubers (Joshua Valour, Z Reviews, Passion for Sound etc.) so I was stupid enough to buy it. But that was the last bad headphone I ever bought so I guess it was a necessary step into enlightenment

I think part of the reason why Passion for Sound eventually made a video on the Z1R was because I used to tell him how excited I was to receive mine 🤔

(it took me 8 months to receive mine from when I ordered them)

[lunar niche]

We were both there together then. I also weaned myself off of both the creators (Z reviews mainly) and chasing the audio dragon.

I still love great audio but have learned to be more cautious. Once burned twice shy and all

[quasi field]

I think Passion for Sound is a nice kind man

But I think his content is mostly nonsense

But I liked his style much more than Z reviews

Z Reviews is not funny and his videos are unwatchable

[lunar niche]

I shudder to think of listening to Z again

After my long journey through headphone shit my favorite pair is still my first - hd600

I still do use some others, but it’s hard to convince yourself that you’ve got it good when there’s bigger price tags out there

[quasi field]

Makes complete sense

They are mostly very well controlled with a great tonality everywhere (except for the bass imo)

It's expected that so many like them

[lunar niche]

Yup, not perfect but pretty great. Also they fit my dome perfectly which is surprisingly uncommon in my experience. Don’t go anywhere and don’t clamp.

One of my favorite sounding pairs that I can almost never use is the HD25-2

[quasi field]

I have only listened to them at stores

[lunar niche]

Absolutely clamps the shit outta my ears, don’t know how anybody can wear them for more than 30m at a time

But they sound very fun

Maybe one of the best parts of the z1r too- so light and comfy

One pair I liked fairly well but just missed for me was the Focal Clear. they’re so heavy 😩

Almost makes me want to tear them apart and try to rehouse the drivers

[quasi field]

I think it's a high-end headphone that gets looks, comfort and build all correct which is rare imo

[quasi field]

Focals are no-go for me sadly. The driver can't handle enough volume

[lunar niche]

Huh I never hit distortion issues on them

[quasi field]

I have to EQ the bass. And so it's easy to have peaks into 100 something dB which makes the driver bottom out and make that awful noise

[lunar niche]

That would turn me off too, just didn’t experience it

[quasi field]

Focal drivers clipping is a very common complaint about them

[quasi field]

It's more likely to happen if you EQ

For bass I prefer around 2 dB above Harman

Bass has the highest energy in music usually, well above what we listen to in the more sensitive higher frequencies. And short peaks in audio can be around 20 dB above average at most I think

So reaching 110 dB+ does happen, and is why distortion measurements need to go high

[lunar niche]

I'm basic and if I do EQ it's probably getting closer to Harman and not much past if any. I mainly do it for the truly anemic pairs that I love so much like the 600 and 800s.

[quasi field]

The way I'm listening right now as I type this would have a Focal clipping

But I agree they are quite heavy

[lunar niche]

I may have to bring them outta the closet and see if I can reproduce this horrible sounding occurence

[quasi field]

Which ones? Focal Clear?

[lunar niche]

Yeah

[quasi field]

Try Oratory 1990's EQ preset maybe which will increase bass by quite a bit

[lunar niche]

Got 'em on, will give them a shot

[quasi field]

And then do what you would consider to be quite loud but tolerable listening which is what I'm doing now. When you want to really jam out

[lunar niche]

I use a HW EQ cause I got tired of losing my APO config so often 😄

What's a good test track for this hearing damage 😉

[quasi field]

https://youtu.be/6gOSDH7mi0s

This is a bass heavy song

But yeah I hope you are EQing otherwise you might not notice it

[lunar niche]

Yeah, just in hardware

That is a good test track 😆 have the low end EQ'ed way too high and it's not clipping for me (but is making my vision get wobbly)

or rather, not bottoming out the driver

maybe I just got lucky?

[quasi field]

It's Focal Elear I think people complain about it the most, but that is simultaneously a much cheaper headphone and so more will have it

I've never used Clear, but I have used Clear MG

[lunar niche]

I mean, I have to imagine they're in the same ball park

phew I think I took a year off my good hearing years doing that

[quasi field]

Maybe it's partially down to unit variation

I have experienced clipping at «comfortably loud» volumes

[lunar niche]

That's what I meant by my maybe being lucky

Who knows. Either way, I think they're solid but just a bit too heavy. Had some issues with a peak around IIRC 3khz or so, but that can be EQ'd out without too much trouble

Mostly the weight that makes me put them away

I think my ideal would be to get the form factor of the HD600 and drivers closer to the 800S. Then I'd never have to think about this again.

[quasi field]

They are shaped a bit like consumer style headphones, Sony XM etc. but much larger and heavier and I don't feel like that works well

For heavier headphones I at least want bigger contact area like Audezes

And a better strap design

[lunar niche]

Still never got a chance to try Audezes

nor Meze for that matter

Didn't realize Aud's were heavy

[quasi field]

I've owned two and they were awful imo

[lunar niche]

See I think the polarizing opinions kept me away

[quasi field]

Being heavy is what they are most famous for

[lunar niche]

Well, that and the drivers right 🙂

[quasi field]

I had the LCD-XC (closed version of X) and it weighs 677 gram

[lunar niche]

Holy F - had to check and Focal Clears are 450g

That's insane

[quasi field]

The pads are nice and plush but at that weight it doesn't even matter much anymore because it still hurts your neck

[lunar niche]

HD600: 260g
Perfection 🤩

[quasi field]

No matter how it fits your head it will strain your neck

[quasi field]

Yeah that's very good

Comfort is so so important to me in a headphone

Over 350 grams and I start looking at alternatives

[lunar niche]

My friend I wish you were around to discuss this stuff 10y ago, would have made better decisions I am sure.

[mental spade]

10 years ago the choices were a lot more limited we have a lot more options nowadays

[lunar niche]

and yet the pair on my head I bought used 15y ago 🙂

[quasi field]

I was not an audiophile 10 years ago. I was just 15

I got my first serious headphone in 2018

[lunar niche]

Phew, you ran all the way to the top pretty quick

[mental spade]

I was on that m50x hype train, into the dt 770 pros

[quasi field]

I'm the most happy now with my Astro A50 Gen 5. They are imo the best sounding headphones I've ever had. And they are comfortable

[lunar niche]

I've heard good things about them!

[quasi field]

DT 770 Pro is the one I bought in 2018. I thought they were incredible back then but that was probably because every headphone I had owned prior had too little treble

[quasi field]

The Astro?

[lunar niche]

Yeah, someone had said some kind words about them IIRC a few years ago when I last heard

[quasi field]

I think they are excellent. I did a lot of research before settling on them

The headphones I had before that were the Audeze Maxwell. I still have that but the Astros are better and more comfortable

[quasi field]

Keep in mind it has to be the Gen 5 (or X) specificially. There are other earlier gens and they suck

[lunar niche]

I'd always heard they were fine in early gens, but nothing to think much of. May have to give them a 👀

[quasi field]

Gen 4 has lots of bloat and very little treble

Gen 5 does not need very much EQ to sound perfect to me