🔧│keyboard_modding

[trail bane]

Xd

Finally a good news

[little glen]

what are you getting

[jade narwhal]

but the seller looks suspicous, no review exists and its price is significantly lower than any other seller on taobao.

[humble surge]

I will, in exactly 14 days

[tawdry tree]

yeah, @thick tide purchased them so we’ll see if he actually gets them soon enough. 😂

[jade narwhal]

if u find the price on xianyu, i would say its understandable.

same picture on xianyu

🤔

[tawdry tree]

same picture too

[cyan lark]

That's a lot of switches

[trail bane]

Tiramisu + lube pen

[little glen]

nice

[trail bane]

Btw any comment from WS?

[tawdry tree]

not that I know of

[cyan lark]

That image is great. Is that flux 2.0?

[sacred elm]

Deeper version of Flux

[cyan lark]

Deep sound, deeper pockets

[polar girder]

I fuck with deeper

[cyan lark]

S&P 500 has gone up 17% in the last 6 months. If folks had invested that cash instead of buying fluxes they'd basically be millionaires.

[tawdry tree]

~ Bigsly 2025

[tawdry tree]

^^

[round sparrow]

is it just the pink ws fluxes?

[tawdry tree]

They have a physically different bottom housing to make them sound deeper.

[cyan lark]

It is art, you wouldn't get it

[round sparrow]

fr?

[sacred elm]

Different material

Also it's slightly different

[cyan lark]

They coulda flipped them the same way 😆

[sacred elm]

It has PA66 bottom housing instead of PC

[round sparrow]

well im good for now on switches, gotta wait for the next big switch

[cyan lark]

Tikky Tokkens

[round sparrow]

what happend to sparks btw?

[tawdry tree]

they’re still with us

why?

[round sparrow]

they still overpriced af

right?

[tawdry tree]

it’s gateron dear

[sacred elm]

Sparks have issues on Wooting, because of the weak magnet.

[round sparrow]

smh that cinematic promo video was for nothing

[cyan lark]

Oh those were the PHOENIX RISES ones?

[round sparrow]

wooting could never

[tawdry tree]

we needed switch selector yesterday

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[round sparrow]

insert hawk scream

[tropic urchin]

deep clack fluxies my beloved

[sacred elm]

Won't talk until I have them in hand. Maybe it's Blux and not Flux?

[tropic urchin]

ill do what i want shi

[cyan lark]

Did you actually pick them up @tropic urchin ?

[tropic urchin]

ofc

$1 per switch for 70 is enough for me

i also have cash back rewards

so if i wanna use it i wont pay for em so

[cyan lark]

All those smart investments, poof

Send me your OG fluxies so I can try em

[tropic urchin]

no good switches are coming out so im chillin

[cyan lark]

Not subscribing to the Tikken savior? 4mm long boys?

[tropic urchin]

55g spring im not using

its just owlabs 2.0 with some tweaks so id rather just use fluxies which will have A+ top wobble and like S-S+ bottom so idc

[cyan lark]

Damn that's what they went with? No spring options w/out swap?

[sacred elm]

Fluxes are different, sorry.

[tropic urchin]

it'll take some time i just dont care tbh

not going to hold my breath for T45s

someone else will have to fight the good fight

[tropic urchin]

interstate meetup imagine kek

[trail bane]

Too late… The demon of fluxes has signed a contract with them… Their… minds are brainwashed… their soul no longer belongs to them…

[humble surge]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-power-armor-video-game-looking-gif-17919040

[tropic urchin]

says the boi with 10 pc

[trail bane]

4

[trail bane]

Yeah cuz I signed a contract under the same terms but with POMs and TTC Itself

But I got scammed cuz I still don’t have a single Woot POM

[tulip rapids]

fellow modders

is it stupid to have white/green keyboard and white mouse with black pc? These white tax on these white pc hurting my soul

[cyan lark]

The best time to stop going for an all white gamer pc setup is before you start. The next best time is now.

[tulip rapids]

im just in love with the white msi x870e edge ti

https://tenor.com/view/anime-happiness-happy-surprise-surprised-gif-8100054304721757462

[cyan lark]

Just like switches, they look the same once I put them in a box and close 'em up.

[tulip rapids]

this is true

[tulip rapids]

but hear me out

white pc goes with my mouse and keyboard. A regular black pc wouldnt look as nice

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[cyan lark]

I'm afraid he's lost.

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark but at this current point flux is probably just going to be my end game switch since raptor v2s HMX did the good ol QC issue, owlabs are whatever after using boxstem and tikkens arent super interesting for wobble maxxers

[cyan lark]

I'm just sassing you, your money, you do you boo. Hope they are awesome.

[tulip rapids]

just let me inhale this special air

[cyan lark]

I just wanna try 4mm again w/out nasty sound. I remember how much of a downgrade it felt like at first going to ~3.5.

[tidal frigate]

It has a lot of nvme ports

[tidal frigate]

You know you pay extra 300 € for white colour

[north girder]

nah they aint released yet as far as i know

[peak breach]

All white setups are cool until you realise how dirty they get

Just use a white desk and keep your pc under your desk

[queen otter]

i think one of the reasons 4.0mm worked for me so well was because on my OEM keycaps i used o-rings to make the bottom out not as harsh

specifically the lekker L60 v2

[oak zinc]

Switch broke in half mid-play

Rest in peace

It lived long tho

[tropic urchin]

bro needs to lock in with 3% cash back on online purchases

fund keyboard hobby by buying your essentials online

amazon getting more $ is a small price to pay for free switches

[tropic urchin]

Save money by not matching every peripheral gang

If you want all white pc keep it there

[chilly mural]

damn, reached the 100m press

[robust siren]

joined today to say it broke 🥀

[oak zinc]

It it possible to see the amount of presses?

[calm pulsar]

you'd have to count them yourself

[robust siren]

maybe if you had a keylogger

[chilly mural]

nah, but it's alright, it's just a single switch. You can cheaply get replacement switches since the board is universal

[tidal frigate]

How is it even possible

[oak zinc]

Yeah I just need to find a way to get the rest of the switch out haha

[robust siren]

look how faded the U is lol

[oak zinc]

Id assume like 30d of playtime into that key

[calm pulsar]

can't you just assemble it back

[oak zinc]

Like this?

[oak zinc]

Boing gameplay

[calm pulsar]

take out the bottom housing first

[oak zinc]

Im trying

The Key grabber would grab the part thats broken off

[calm pulsar]

ah so it didnt just disassemble but something physically broke too

I thought maybe the top housing just went off a bit and it could be built back

[oak zinc]

Yes it literally broke in half

[cyan lark]

Is this how you let us know you've been lifting?

[oak zinc]

This is what came out

[oak zinc]

I do infact singletap quite strongly

[foggy scroll]

The legend is worn off the key and the switch broke.
You’re abusing this poor thing 😭

[fluid ravine]

Rip

[tawdry tree]

I’m dead lmfao

how the fuck is that even possible

[tidal frigate]

Lets ask calder

He propably knows

[tawdry tree]

[chilly mural]

I have keycaps broke on me a couple time, it's prop because of constant vibration from the press

[tawdry tree]

I’ve never seen anything like it happen

if he didn’t do something with it, then maybe the top housing material is bad

all four hooks being broken exactly like that is weird af

[unborn phoenix]

Hi everyone, I came here a couple weeks ago to talk about cases and I am gonna switch to the GT-80. Now I was looking at switches and wanted to ask if thocky/creamy like hall effects exist for this keyboard

From what I have been told its not happening but if thats the case I wanted to ask what gets me closer

I already have plans to get some other items with the case to make it sound better

[tropic urchin]

You’re going to be looking for deeper sounding switches

Tikken or ur ice ultras

[robust siren]

probably these or wait for lekker tikkens
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009888870031.html

[tropic urchin]

Damn deep clack rec 🥶

[unborn phoenix]

just to understand a deep clack is very different no

or is the word just misleading

[sacred elm]

@tropic urchin Are we sleeping? Is this a dream? Fluxes got recommended. What's happening?

[tropic urchin]

HE switches is either clack or dampened silent switches

You won’t find thocky (closest is deeper sounding switches) or creamy

[tawdry tree]

I don’t get where this no thocky shit came from

[robust siren]

@$1/switch its better than jade maxes

[tropic urchin]

Big true

[tawdry tree]

if we’re talking about the newgen thock, then that shit can almost be whatever you want lmao

[tropic urchin]

$1 fluxies are honestly big steal unless you got that tb $0.5 special

[humble surge]

Idk what thock is tbh, i'M just here with popcorn when people talk about words that are supposed to resemble sounds kek

[unborn phoenix]

This doesn't look bad I might look into it more

[tropic urchin]

WS flux will be top tier stability, but will come down to how it ends up sounding with most boards since they’re still very new

[tawdry tree]

the original thock sound is rubber dome, so that’s what Raeds are. Newgen thock is pretty much deep clack

foamed up deep clack

[tropic urchin]

For $1 per switch it’s very competitive with TTC POM and the likes at their price point

[humble surge]

see i have no clue what you are saying, absolutely no idea

[tawdry tree]

which you can achieve quite easily on HE

[humble surge]

but... TRUE!

[unborn phoenix]

Yeah I was told for sound just get a switch that makes sense and just tweak the board itself

[robust siren]

@sacred elm ive found xray clones on amazon

they used to just be on ali

[sacred elm]

aifei?

[robust siren]

sumgsn

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/samsung-gif-18304794

[robust siren]

https://a.co/d/8fRi8OO

[tropic urchin]

Good advice imo

[robust siren]

do i gamble on $26 keycaps

[tawdry tree]

If someone wants newgen “thock” on an 80HE, a foam kit with C1s, Jade Pros, Ice Ultras or Flux Deep Clackies will do

[tropic urchin]

@unborn phoenix my rec would be to get good foam (more might help your sound profile), and experiment with different plates (FR4 might be the best balance)

Best stability probably would be flux and then everything else is good enough sans Jade pros

[sacred elm]

Jade Pros mentioned?

[tropic urchin]

Shhh

[tropic urchin]

I’m still shocked he upgraded

The bit was too good

Even tho I raged at him a few times for his wild jade pro takes but

End of an era

[robust siren]

i just got the c1s too

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[tropic urchin]

Get fucked mobile user

[thorn zealot]

who wants to join the lekker v1 train with me

[robust siren]

[tawdry tree]

discord my beloved

[tropic urchin]

@tawdry tree salt lake + deep clack might arrive same time

🥶🥶🥶

[tawdry tree]

stem swapped raptors clear

[tawdry tree]

you’ll get sent a salty rock instead of deep fluxies buddy

pairs well

[tropic urchin]

Unless you set up a fake Chinese company selling them at a too good bargain price JUST to fool me into believing I could have what I want…

If so

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-howard-new-fish-in-town-clap-jump-off-a-cliff-gif-25136613

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[tawdry tree]

get fucked mobile user

[robust siren]

gatekeeping my emojis

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-baloongis-cat-nixly-weaky-repz-gif-25559792

[robust siren]

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-fbi-police-police-cat-fbi-cat-gif-1256429038097351888

[chilly mural]

lmao

imagine if it's true

[robust siren]

im orange cat

[tropic urchin]

Nah you’re about to get Tuan spiked

https://tenor.com/view/galen-gering-venice-spike-volleyball-boom-gif-13112555

God fix your fucking mobile app discord

Small indie company

[robust siren]

average day for discord

[tropic urchin]

Double clicking like a brand new G502

[robust siren]

[tropic urchin]

Inb4 “yez why do ppl hate best mau5e, week fingers”

:POWAGA:

[oak zinc]

I just played the game

I tap quite strongly

Maybe the material just gave in after 30d of tapping

But I didnt like hit it or throw it

[sacred elm]

No.

[tawdry tree]

because it’s the top housing, it’s mostly due to the stem hitting the top (so just the force of the spring) I think.

does the top housing feel brittle?

[oak zinc]

I really dont know what caused this then, I really didnt do anything unusual with it / put anything onto it / subject it to force it shouldnt have

[tawdry tree]

that’s the only way I could see this happening tbh

[oak zinc]

The top housing does have another crack on its side

[tawdry tree]

interesting

did you ever open the switch, maybe to swap springs or something?

[oak zinc]

Nope

I once removed Keycap for cleaning but didnt touch the switch

[tawdry tree]

if it is due to some insanely brittle PC top housing, I hope that it’s only a few switches that are affected lmao

I’ve seen brittle PC in the past before but never so much so that it couldn’t handle its own stem lol

[oak zinc]

I mean I had this UwU since Christmas 2023 and I played insanely much osu!

[humble surge]

[oak zinc]

Maybe its actually just material fatigue

[tawdry tree]

I think even if you pressed twice as hard and twice as much as a normal osu player, it still wouldn’t fail like it did

[oak zinc]

Even tho my Cherry blue back then did survive this, the KB didnt

[tawdry tree]

possible ig

[oak zinc]

45k Playcount in osu! is alot

[trail bane]

Gn

[north girder]

there are some silencing orings available they go around the keycap stem i would assume they could dampen your hammering of the switch to a point where the next one will last longer

[glacial wind]

It’s basically referring to sound similar to Wuque morandi

If you mean when keyboard mech folks say thock

That’s one of the originator that made it widespread on YouTube etc in conjunction with the foam era from owlab

Then HE took the term but has never been able to do the same sound so it’s just been clickbait youtubers using thock to drive views even though the sound isn’t possible on any he switch

[calm pulsar]

@sacred elm found the perfect keycap set for your Gateron Orc*ids

[tropic urchin]

no comment

[thorn zealot]

which one is honestly worse

lekker v1 or orchids

[tropic urchin]

probably v1s

[queen otter]

what M2x4 pitch is commonly used for GH60 cases (0.4mm or 0.25mm or something else)?

[tawdry tree]

v1s are bad but orsh*ts are just far enough from good to make them far worse

[tawdry tree]

0.4

/coarse

[queen otter]

Thanks!

[queen otter]

also it's M2x4, not M2x5 right?

[tawdry tree]

not necessarily, it depends on the case

[queen otter]

and same M2x4-0.4 screws for the plates or maybe that's a plate by plate basis?

[tawdry tree]

there’s quite a bit of flexibility with most cases though, so you should be fine

[tawdry tree]

yeah, but, if your plate has counter sunk holes, you’ll need to get flat heads for the top

and button heads for the bottom

😄

[queen otter]

I see

but generally, it's M2x4-0.4

[tawdry tree]

for plates, yeah

[queen otter]

good to know :)

[tawdry tree]

for case screws they can work just fine but I’d go with m2x5

so you have a bit more flexibility if you’d want to burger mount

[queen otter]

actually you might just be onto something

[robust siren]

i use 6mm for burger mounting and i find them still annoying

[queen otter]

M2x6-0.4?

[tawdry tree]

they’re tiny screws either way haha

[queen otter]

im replacing the screws with Torx

[robust siren]

idk what pitch they were, i just bought a 100pc bag of m2x6mm screws for like 5 bucks

[queen otter]

im changing things all the time and I'm sick of stripping screws man

[tawdry tree]

could get a pack with a couple different lengths then

[queen otter]

Thanks guys

[robust siren]

these https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Notebook-Computer-Phillips-Fastener/dp/B082XXW76M/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1PGSNSNMWY6R6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6BKl-VHK-jsRz6edgcCGgMgVZBFRTb4lyh51zUK8iM4OSqpR9Tju1k4KEru3srnie-Z4Q7fBBKCENMDHrBi9fN_3Bjwk3Ilo9uQ0-alEld_VBcKOf8mQc3MM2Gaz4a2xNBTraMjnHNywEOJhVLI0Z2fbay-ZK9RJ7j50H28bMtUG_8nzwI89oP9sFqrUeFAtgLKyFLwTlHfdQBKv1UMSiA.U4mGRANXzgq9Q4QI67ikeB_A9SPIhIYCF3A6Xa_ux2E&dib_tag=se&keywords=m2x6mm&qid=1726035632&sprefix=m2x6mm%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4

[queen otter]

wanna send those to me as an amazon canada link?

[robust siren]

uhh

[queen otter]

idk maybe it will work lemme try

[robust siren]

https://www.amazon.ca/uxcell-Notebook-Computer-Phillips-Fastener/dp/B082XXQWGD/ref=dp_fod_m_sccl_1/130-2805486-2675449?pd_rd_w=umdag&content-id=amzn1.sym.7821e9c3-e1ef-41ec-84f9-8420ef8718a2&pf_rd_p=7821e9c3-e1ef-41ec-84f9-8420ef8718a2&pf_rd_r=JKR6YEQ6SSK7JTA3BGX3&pd_rd_wg=z0O0I&pd_rd_r=857004d2-6621-425e-8723-a66c05c1f73e&pd_rd_i=B082XXQWGD&psc=1

[tawdry tree]

it really doesn’t matter much which you get

[queen otter]

thanks guys :D

[tawdry tree]

don’t need anything specific, just M2 and the length you want

and torx perhaps

[robust siren]

i think amazon canada is just .ca instead of .com

[queen otter]

as long as it's 0.4 pitch

[tawdry tree]

90% is

[robust siren]

its worked for me in the tofu

[tawdry tree]

fine thread M2 is hard to find

[robust siren]

i also used it to replace a stab screw

[tawdry tree]

coarse is the most common

[robust siren]

i lost one while installing the knight v2s a while back

[thorn zealot]

Damn u guys hate em that much

[robust siren]

@tawdry tree sits flush after it went onto the pcb

im so lucky it fits lmao

only sending the exact amount of screws for screw in stabs

[tawdry tree]

I just don’t get gateron man, how did they go through 6 or whatever iterations and still end with whatever orsh*ts are

[calm pulsar]

u can use existing screws from stock stabs (if you had screw-ins)

[robust siren]

stock 60he+ had plate mounts

[calm pulsar]

yeah fair

[calm pulsar]

are you planning to get fluxies later?👀

[trail bane]

Sure

But

[fluid ravine]

how much are deep fluxies?

[trail bane]

$0.5 on taobao, and $70/90pcs on ali

[calm pulsar]

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=9dXiVXW

this store has normal fluxes for the same price too

[trail bane]

Am I right?

[calm pulsar]

for me it's 57 usd for 70 pcs, with free shipping and no tax

but it could be diff for diff regions

[fluid ravine]

i edited my reddit post for my fluxes

selling it for $0.9 final

[calm pulsar]

such an untimely price drop for you

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[tulip rapids]

hear me out

[fluid ravine]

hearing

[fluid ravine]

you right let me change it to $1.50

[trail bane]

Damn for me $60 for the same amount

[fluid ravine]

reasonable price

[chilly mural]

Flux first edition for sale

[trail bane]

without coupons

[calm pulsar]

founders edition

[tulip rapids]

thai express 10/10

[calm pulsar]

maybe its a bit more expensive for them to ship to EU, or zl exchange rate is different

[trail bane]

Taxes ig

Not that bad actually

[calm pulsar]

I'll probably order 10 pcs each of normal and deep fluxies

to see which I like

[glacial wind]

Outemu peach silent use a small silicone looking type dampener at top and bottom looks like

For those curious about how silent they are, here’s a rough comparison vs geon raws

magnet tested fine too, so they're compatible

freya are better bottom out stability though, but these are still good

and they're a bit more quiet than freya

Raw he, peach silent, Freya silent

the phone makes the freya sound 'thump' a lot more than it does in real life, but yeah silentness it'd go peach beats freya, then bottom out stability it'd go freya beats peach (but peach is still great at an S with good bottom out stability)

[oak zinc]

Interesting

[north girder]

ijust orderd the smalles ammount i couldget wich was 5 deep and 4 normal

[quasi fossil]

Hi all! My replace spacebar got stuck when it is fully installed. Is my spacebar wrong? It works perfectly on 60he and I want to install on 80he. Factory spacebar works perfectly too.

[little glen]

Can you put it down on a completely flat surface and see if it‘s maybe curved in some way?

[quasi fossil]

I checked it’s completely flat.

[humble surge]

Thats great, but no clue what Wuque morandi is or how it sounded

[glacial wind]

Just that kind of deeper pebbles dropping on sidewalk kind of sound. Sometimes they call it ‘marbly’

[humble surge]

I see, interesting

[glacial wind]

That was the era where owlab made their insanely popular foam filled keyboard called the owlab jelly, and mx world fell in love with foam for a short time

Then it went out of favor as a ‘cheap’ sound because people got tired of it and every keyboard did foam. that’s why now you have the opposite where mx keyboard elitists mock foam boards

Its all a weird cycle of people suddenly deciding certain sounds are good or bad, then eventually you realize how preference based the hobby is

[humble surge]

Interesting lesson, i'm personally not so bothered coming from generation old very loud and clicky mechanicals, pretty much anything on this high end board will sound fine for me.
I'm more feel and performance/stats centered.

[sacred elm]

My deep clackers are shipped

[quasi fossil]

Okay I resolved it almost. Just slowly installing the spacebar to make sure triple bars inside equally.

[trail bane]

Fast asf

[peak breach]

geon my goat ngl, wrote them an email asking if they got some stock of evil dolch left. They wrote back saying they would check and update their store if they find something

anyways

[glacial wind]

geon is always pretty good about readding stock back. I always wonder where it comes from but I assume it's things like cancelled orders or delayed clearance

[peak breach]

funny that you have to remind them to update the stock

[calm pulsar]

he runs an international store and a korean one (or even a couple), so not that surprising if something isnt readded immediately for the international one

[crimson sky]

he might just hold onto some stock in case there are RMAs

[manic hound]

The $32 extra shipping

[tawdry tree]

surely they won’t fumble silent magnetic as hard as gateron did?

[sacred elm]

Release date?

[tropic urchin]

Erm elf kings clear @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

no need, soonTM for everything everytime

[sacred elm]

@languid kestrel might be interested

[tawdry tree]

they said october in their disc a while ago iirc

not sure if that’s still the case tho

[languid kestrel]

I still haven't heard any opinions about the new silents available now

whatever their names are

[glacial wind]

outemu peach magnetic silent is most silent switch of the current options, nice overall switch that's similar to existing good walled stem switches

freya he is quite silent but has a little more bottom out sound like the mathews because it's the same plastic dampener at the bottom, but overall feel is much tighter and improved from mathew switch

you can think of freya he as just a mathew silent but they got rid of the awful wobbly top case and improved lubing on the stems by a lot

[languid kestrel]

thank you

[fallen pecan]

Can you recreate the noise that my outemu peaches made? Just hold it down and go counter clockwise

Mine sounded like this: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[glacial wind]

nope, not on mine. I can feel the mushy dampener stuff but not any of that weird sound

i can make a little bit of normal stem wall sound if I wiggle hard, but that's pretty standard just wall stem sound

there's a kind of mushy sound from the dampeners too if I go real close and listen while pressing hard

honestly if bottom out is a factor the freya are the best of the silent ones. It doesn't move at all basically at bottom

[glacial wind]

are yours the HE magnetic ones or just regular peaches? @fallen pecan

i didn't find the HE ones any more wobbly that most standard walled box stems

[fallen pecan]

I got the magnetic 4 pack, 3 out of the 4 made that noise when i wiggle them

[north girder]

oh no my ws flux arrived

amd i liked the pink ones

now i had to ordner another 90

[tawdry tree]

at least they’re “cheap” now ;)

you saw that they’re on ali for 90pcs/$65 right?

with coupon 90/€64

[north girder]

wait really

tmmwich store

[fallen pecan]

Kom rgb

Peaches

[sacred elm]

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009888870031.html

[north girder]

not available for me sadly

[sacred elm]

[north girder]

i wish u guys never told me

that imregion locked out of this deal

[tawdry tree]

aren’t you from europe?

[north girder]

im from Germany

[tropic urchin]

Nobody is allowed to use WS flux but me in this discord

[tawdry tree]

doesn’t make any sense why you wouldn’t be able to buy em

#🔧│keyboard_modding message try this link

[sacred elm]

🤨

[north girder]

doesn't work either

maybe i gotta create new account

[tawdry tree]

what does it say?

and are you using the app?

[tropic urchin]

You should put your role as “I was there - April 2025”

New Gen flux kids wouldn’t understand /s

[sacred elm]

[fallen pecan]

tried changing my location to hamburg and it disabled the item in the cart

[tawdry tree]

tf

[little glen]

yeah germany cant get some aliexpress items for some reason

[chilly mural]

wtf did germany do

[little glen]

keyboard fun store also doesnt allow german shipping address

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[tropic urchin]

What didn’t Germany do is the real question /s

Besides personally reimburse Jakubix for his OW60 80 years later

[humble surge]

They certainly didn't make a great ISP infrastructure

[north girder]

we didnt nuke japan

[peak breach]

Yet

[tropic urchin]

When bro takes the joke seriously

[sacred elm]

ok, enough of this. lets talk about keyboards

[chilly mural]

raeds is good

it's red

[sacred elm]

So good.

[glacial wind]

oh i found one in my batch that does it. it's only some of them - seems it's the housing

if you hold the top and bottom housing together at same time it doesn't make the sound on those units

[tawdry tree]

loose diffuser?

[glacial wind]

interesting issue though, i wonder if it stops if i play with the latch a bit or diffuser

[glacial wind]

not diffuser, i just checked removing it to see

just seems like the housing tolerance on some units is weird with the fit so there's a jiggle sound

[humble surge]

@tawdry tree roughly how many of your Raptor v2s had crunch?

[glacial wind]

okay that's interesting. I don't get the wiggle sound when it's inside my keyboard. Only if I play with them loose out of keyboard. @fallen pecan

once they're in the plate they don't make the wiggle sound for me

i think wiggle sound is the latch tolerances or something, but once it's in plate i get no more weird sounds

in plate with keycap on specifically

how weird.

[tawdry tree]

A couple but it’s not really representative of the issue as ones that seem to be fine can start to become crunchy later on. It’s just bad switch design as usual.

[tawdry tree]

this on FR4?

thickness might matter

even if it’s a 0.1mm difference

[glacial wind]

that's on cf plate

lemme check my pc

[tawdry tree]

that’s good

[north girder]

germany is the origin of cherry and gmk afaik

[tawdry tree]

gmk ye

cherry not so much

[glacial wind]

yeah still happens on pc plate, i think it's a lot less noticable in usage mostly cause you have pressure when it's bottoming out so the sound doesn't come out as much

[tawdry tree]

guess filming is back

[north girder]

well i did some research it was american now its german

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[glacial wind]

honestly just buy the freya i think is the recommendation unless someone needs really extreme quiet switches lol

[north girder]

so the keyboards still originate from germany hehe i was never wrong

[tawdry tree]

the product does, but the company doesn’t

[tawdry tree]

more silent = betterest

top housing swap might fix it

[glacial wind]

i'll keep both on the recommend list anyhow and let people decide themselves. Still both better than the awful top housing of mathew

[tawdry tree]

haven’t noticed anything like it on outemu’s other switches

[humble surge]

Okay that makes about 5 people with feedback that it's a low percentage. Thanks.
There was a guy here claiming he had over 60% of his switches do it, but it seemed like bait (probably is).
I do agree it's not great design, but considering price and the low actual % i think it's acceptable.

[tawdry tree]

I did notice that they don’t fit in most kailh openers lmao

[tawdry tree]

there’s better out there and they really aren’t that cheap

I’d go with either C1s or maybe Fluxes now that they’re cheaper

Deep Fluxes are deeper than Raptors tho

[humble surge]

better what?

[tawdry tree]

better as in without those issues

[humble surge]

Sure, but they are nowhere the price for specs

I think it's still worth

[tawdry tree]

C1s are cheaper

and have very low wobble as well

without the audible friction (I can feel it as well but most don’t, seems like).

[humble surge]

Cheaper isn't the perspective, but the ratio

Atleast not for me

[tawdry tree]

[humble surge]

Also probably why they made it into that Sno list

[tawdry tree]

if you wanna get raptors, feel free man

[glacial wind]

they're just a good all rounder that's fully clear rgb wise

kind of like having an owlab ti he but rgb friendly and different sound

[humble surge]

Yeah i'M still getting a set of them, just wanted to clarify that guy was a clown with invalid info thats all.

But by no means it's gonna be the only switches.

[glacial wind]

oh you mean the raptors

[tawdry tree]

60% having spring crunch sounds far fetched but I do get it

[glacial wind]

yeah it's definitely not a high ratio thing

[humble surge]

It did, especially when nobody else can report anything that close

[glacial wind]

for example to this day i haven't been able to get a single one to crunch for myself

it seems very dependant on the type of usage the person does

[tawdry tree]

it being random and can happen at anytime just makes it shit imo

[glacial wind]

i don't think it's 'random' but more usage random if that makes sense

[robust siren]

the only key that feel weird (compared to raws) is the backspace (on c1s)

[tawdry tree]

it’s random

[unkempt linden]

from japan

[glacial wind]

like for the people who had it happen it only happened on very specific use keys

[humble surge]

I mean the switch was barely out for a bit no? what usages are we talking xD

[glacial wind]

so it's not fully random

[tawdry tree]

the spring can move all over the place which is what causes it

[north girder]

@tawdry tree@sacred elm ended up ordering to a swiss buddy

[humble surge]

Also can't these springs be exchanged?

[glacial wind]

yeah but it's usage dependant on certain things it seems to trigger that spring thing

shafie for example can only get it on specific osu keys usually

[tawdry tree]

they use a different diameter spring and even with TTC’s springs it still happens

it’s just flawed switch design

[tawdry tree]

🔥🔥

[glacial wind]

same with varedis with the wasd

[humble surge]

hmm okay was just curious, i bet it's cheaper to just get other switches and less work/time too

or replace with other R v2s

[tawdry tree]

C1s are the better switch imo

[glacial wind]

it seems to be very specific to repetitive, hard fast movements maybe - although everyone says i bang my keyboard too loud and i haven't seen it happen yet so go figure

[tawdry tree]

the issues raptors have offset the pros

[humble surge]

I'm getting those aswell, i was here when you linked that on Ali i think

was your experience better with those? i don't remember

[tawdry tree]

yeah

I like em

[unkempt linden]

60 very good!

[glacial wind]

honestly i disagree because there's a lot of folks who haven't been able to get it to happen and our community are very specific set of users

[humble surge]

How good are they really though? will they make it to the recommend list

[glacial wind]

the c1s?

[robust siren]

i got 70pcs for 20 bucks
theyre on recommended under rgb

[glacial wind]

they're already on the list under rgb section

[humble surge]

So thats the only highlight? RGB?

[glacial wind]

they're basically owlab ti he but rgb friendly and different sound profile

[tawdry tree]

no

[glacial wind]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[humble surge]

Because if what aligner says about his experience, it should be roughly Raptor good

[glacial wind]

raptor are different because they're more stable but can have the spring issue

[humble surge]

So C1 is less stable

gotcha

[glacial wind]

it's why i put raptor as S for stability but owlab ti he and c1 as A basically

[robust siren]

what are the thunderflash swtiches 👀

[tawdry tree]

without friction**

[humble surge]

RGB isn't a concern of mine

[glacial wind]

those are phylina switches

[humble surge]

Thanks for the inputs team :)

[oak jewel]

same here, heavy use too

[sacred elm]

Fluxes are like $50

[robust siren]

26 bucks for 61pcs on mechkeys

[glacial wind]

flux i'm curious to see if they fixed their qc and if the price stays at non stupid then it could get popular as a recommendation

[tawdry tree]

if raptors didn’t have issues, I’d recommend them as well

[sacred elm]

Isn't it better to pay 10-15 bucks more and avoid long term crunch bs issues

[humble surge]

We get both soon and i can do a personal comparison aswell (as much as an amateur i still am when it comes to switches).
At the very least i can compare to your experiences and the data on the Recommended list.

[sacred elm]

That's my opinion.

[glacial wind]

i don't think we can say flux pricier is permanent until we know it's staying

wuque still haven't dropped the official pricing

[sacred elm]

yeah

[robust siren]

for me its a 1$ per switch

[sacred elm]

If the price remains the same and they're not fake on Ali (Low chance) they should be on that list imo.

[glacial wind]

honestly under $70 i think people aren't really price concious in that $50-70 range. they're going to buy what they want to buy

[unkempt linden]

Wooting 80HE
US-ANSI - Zinc Alloy Black （アルミケース）
F-F+ Y7 WS PBT WOB Keycaps
キースイッチ Gateron Jades swich

[tawdry tree]

obviously, they beat TTCs easily

[sacred elm]

English only please

[humble surge]

If thats true and real then it's reasonable to spend (especially considering we are in a discord with a high end keyboard that isn't cheap which assumes matching clients).
But we really need to see if this issue is that big of a deal.

[unkempt linden]

sry

[glacial wind]

which issue?

[tawdry tree]

The biglucky switches aren’t that expensive, so the price might be permanent

[tropic urchin]

bro said the o word

[humble surge]

He is still referring to the crunch

Or the possibility of it rather

[sacred elm]

This is the key that was barely used by me.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1289520753238081629/1410669092880384051/IMG_2631.mov?ex=68cb90b8&is=68ca3f38&hm=9e80966f59f201db86cd0c9b998d0e558fc99501152299d2cd2f680c63973249&

Just so you know

[glacial wind]

oh, yeah i don't think it's that major an issue since we've only had limited reports of it, but it's just something to have in mind with them

[humble surge]

I'm personally very open to buying a not so cheap switch set, but i wanted to start with affordable and all around good picks first, and by observing what gurus are sharing here.

[unkempt linden]

Wooting 80HE
US-ANSI - Zinc Alloy Black
F-F+ Y7 WS PBT WOB Keycaps
Keyswitch Gateron Jades swich

[glacial wind]

some people will happily trade the stability of them for that low percentage issue

[humble surge]

My impression is similar so far, i can say something personal next month.

[glacial wind]

it's all preference at end of the day. Some folks care more about stability, some friction, some sound etc

[tawdry tree]

what shafie said is true, the fluxies are only $10-15 or so more than raptors rn

[glacial wind]

that's why when I do the list it's a wider spread of different types of switches and i let people pick

[tropic urchin]

if flux stays at $1 per switch they are easily best feel in the $1 price point

[humble surge]

Can't open it, is it showing one Raptor V2?

[sacred elm]

This is Raptor ye

[humble surge]

Thats not bad

[glacial wind]

people need to chill on flux though until we actually have them and know 2 things. Price needs to stay down and qc needs to have been improved

[humble surge]

I understand, but thats what, sample size low, i'M for example ordering +10/20 to replace if any single one does it. I don't see it as a big deal right now (yet).

[humble surge]

Flux sounds great, like when you say it out loud, almost soothing xD

[tawdry tree]

how are raptor’s issues not that much of an issue because of low reports but the same isn’t applied to fluxies?

https://tenor.com/view/sospechoso-suspizcaz-chicken-judging-you-gif-17495234

[glacial wind]

because it's not low amount of reports with some of the qc issues and higher qc is expected when you pay $2 a switch

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[tropic urchin]

i dont think anyone has used them for longer than me, and honestly I haven't noticed a single thing wrong with them vs Raptors I felt within 2-3 days

[tawdry tree]

the only person I’ve heard that had a magnet spring, is D, other than him I’ve never heard anyone say anything about that

[glacial wind]

i'm happy to add them IF the price is now permanently lower and the qc issues they had before are gone, but that's an if and jumping ahead does nothing

[glacial wind]

because people don't check these things.

same with accuracy issues on the magnets

people don't check those things and don't always use the settings to know it's causing issues

[tawdry tree]

I’m not suggesting them for you do add specifically, just for embolia to try

[glacial wind]

for example how gateron sparks have accuracy issues right now on wooting but you won't know if you don't set 4mm bottom out

some issues with qc aren't noticed unless checked

[tawdry tree]

three people here have been using them?

[glacial wind]

shafie has reported the issues fyi, so has cam

so 2/3?

[humble surge]

I would apply it equally (although i don't know anything about Fluxes other than the mentioned 10-15 USD difference so far).
But in any one instance, to fully understand a potential design issue, a big enough sample size and testing would be required.

[tawdry tree]

they worked just fine though no @sacred elm?

[glacial wind]

nope, he had magnet issue

he just went back to them because he loved them for sound and feel

[tawdry tree]

which showed up as?

[glacial wind]

as accidental actuation without pressing and less accuracy

[unkempt linden]

I spent 100,000 on the restoration,

[humble surge]

Maybe we misunderstood all along and the low % crunches from Raptor V2s is a feature, like a rare roll, i'm sure it just resembles the noises a Raptor makes when eating it's prey

[glacial wind]

btw i'm not saying i wouldn't recommend flux even with the issues, they'd just be mentioned same as raptors are mentioned now

just that they require a sane price to be mentioned to begin with if they have issues

[tawdry tree]

accidental actuation sounds more like too weak magnets and the firmware doing whatever, like what happened with others switches a while ago.

[glacial wind]

too strong, but yeah it's magnet stuff

and honestly probably just growing pains for a new manu

they'll figure out qc over time, at least i assume/hope

[unkempt linden]

I've been using it since I found out about Rapid Trigger around 6 months ago and a friend recommended it to me, and it's the easiest to use.

[tawdry tree]

jitter never happened with too strong magnets, that was something said a while back when analog mon showed the opposite lol

[humble surge]

Okay thanks again team, so buying order: Raptor V2 (100pc), C1 (100pc) then Flux (100pc).
Likely gonna be October at this point.

Need to run, got pop ingame.

[unkempt linden]

valorant

[tawdry tree]

why so many haha

[robust siren]

more = better

[tawdry tree]

can’t argue with that

[humble surge]

Why settle with one? i'm new to this so i wanna test rather than listen to others and make a decision second hand

[unkempt linden]

[glacial wind]

well i mean we already know what was happening with magnets because their reps mentioned it

the magnet flux range was insanely scuffed on some batches

[tawdry tree]

who other than D?

[humble surge]

It's hot swap

[glacial wind]

i mean do you not want to believe the guy who was literal face of the switch campaign

what more info do you need

[tawdry tree]

none of mine were abnormally high, that’s why

and I got them early

got a later batch as well and the same thing

[glacial wind]

maybe you got lucky or used it in keyboards with ranges that fit better

[tawdry tree]

and their marketing as well

[tropic urchin]

their marketing is horrible

holy miss

[glacial wind]

well yeah i mean their marketing team was literally fired after that so not much to say there

[tawdry tree]

nah, tested their strength with the sayo

[tropic urchin]

my inbox got spammed for a stream that never happened live

[tawdry tree]

didn’t experience any issues in my 80HE either

[glacial wind]

you tested every switch?

[tawdry tree]

were there any analog mon pictures of Flux’s issues?

[sacred elm]

One of my switches had very strong magnet and it was jumping to 0.08mm even after replugging

that's about it

I replaced it

[glacial wind]

anyhow aligner kind of lost the point

the point is that they issues are big because of the pricepoint

they can be dismissed more easily if not for the pricepoint

same as raptor v2 now being not a big deal when you can easily swap a switch for peanuts

it's very different telling someone to swap a switch that had it's legs break when it's $2

[tawdry tree]

did u test it with analog mon by any chance?

[tawdry tree]

raptors’ issue can happen to ones that seem fine

there’s no way to tell

or fix it

which is why I don’t recommend them

[sacred elm]

Yes, I tested it with analog monitor and it was constantly 0.05-0.08mm

[tawdry tree]

swapping them out can help, but it might not as well

[glacial wind]

sure, and you swap it out if you're in the minority that has it happen because the switch is like 40 cents or something

[sacred elm]

ESC key

[tropic urchin]

yeah i dont think swapping raptors even does much to solve spring crunch, its never happened consistently, only when you least expect it

[glacial wind]

i mean i get why aligner doesn't recommend them. he has sensory stuff with friction so it's a way bigger deal

[tawdry tree]

interesting, I’ve never seen that happen on any switch

even ones with really strong magnets

only seen it happen on faulty PCBAs 💀

[fringe quarry]

do you got them other silent switches yet sno

[tawdry tree]

lol

[sacred elm]

🤷‍♂️ It was happening even after replug and when I replaced ESC flux, never had any issues since then.

[glacial wind]

yeah tested them already

[fringe quarry]

so those or freya

[glacial wind]

freya for me, but the peach are more quiet

just they have housing crunching sounds on some units

[tawdry tree]

it’s odd

[sacred elm]

Yeah

[fringe quarry]

hows the stability

[glacial wind]

same as good walled stem stuff

so A top, S bottom

their only issue is the whole odd housing crunching thing

but some folks may not care about that as it's fairly minor if silent is your main concern

[ionic breach]

😭 i cant pick a colour

[sacred elm]

Black

[fringe quarry]

so freya still a bit better

[glacial wind]

tan is nicest but also will get dirty and ugly when dirty

[fringe quarry]

and much cheaper lol

[ionic breach]

im between the bottom row and yuma tan

[glacial wind]

yeah personally i'd go freya over peaches because it's still quite silenced, just not as silenced

but that's personal pref

[tawdry tree]

quite a significant price difference too

[glacial wind]

if i were buying solely for quiet in the office i'd maybe go peaches

[sacred elm]

Oh wow, I just checked

Peaches are $1/pc

[glacial wind]

yeah peaches are expensive

[tawdry tree]

greedy alix reseller

[sacred elm]

🤬

[glacial wind]

that's why they're staying in 3 slot on the list even though they're not technically in a particular order

i think freya is still the better all round pick. More budget friendly, no housing crunch stuff

the issue it does have is the magnet being borderline but i assume if you use silent switches then speed of calibration isn't your main concern

[fringe quarry]

yall dont know when we can expect freyas to be available from like eu retailers or

[glacial wind]

you'd have to ask them because geon doesn't make these, he just stocks them

they're made by ndiy/haimu

[fringe quarry]

im on venom so i would expect the switch picker to fix that there

[glacial wind]

he did put them on international store though

but shipping would be killer i assume

[fringe quarry]

whats the other store they on

[glacial wind]

that's the only store for non koreans lol

i haven't seen freya anywhere else

[sacred elm]

Flux delivery by 5 Oct -_-

[fringe quarry]

20 dollar shipping

and probably some tax on that

[tropic urchin]

kek

thats fine

[sacred elm]

Should arrive earlier

[glacial wind]

i'll probably have mine next week i assume

[chilly mural]

If you want to be lowkey, pick green, If you wanna be mysterious go black, if you're girly, go burgundy, if you wanna look like a construction worker, go for blue.

[humble surge]

Orange

[glacial wind]

clay is nice but i'm curious if it looks nice in person

[unkempt linden]

F-FF Y7 WS PBT WOB Keycaps
£-21 7 Gateron Jades swich
***Disassembled once and filled with Poron foam inside.

[glacial wind]

?

are you okay

[unkempt linden]

bb!

[humble surge]

[unkempt linden]

[glacial wind]

don't spam nonsense please

[ionic breach]

ill take that as a no

[unkempt linden]

sry.

[ionic breach]

ah fk i cant decide

its gg

[glacial wind]

drakon tell cathay not to raise 16mm f1.8 price for 2 weeks please

if their sale pricing ends before i arrive i'm going to get very annoyed

[chilly mural]

go blue

[tawdry tree]

that’s the earliest? 💀

[ionic breach]

nah

is between the 3 bottom and yuma tan

[glacial wind]

yuma tan looks really nice everytime i see it

[sacred elm]

Nah

[glacial wind]

you'd have to keep it clean though

[sacred elm]

will def arrive earlier

[tawdry tree]

was about to say lmao

[ionic breach]

bro they are all chinese uncles

[unkempt linden]

from japan

[ionic breach]

i cant even speak their dialects lol

[ionic breach]

yea it might be a yuma tan angle

[glacial wind]

it's okay just say "no no price increase until sno comes"

[unkempt linden]

I know English and British.

[ionic breach]

im so sad about not getting orange or burgundy tho

[tropic urchin]

deep clack no ship yet 🥀

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/none-gif-27639232

[sacred elm]

Yes dear we ship as soon as possible, take care friend

[tropic urchin]

dont make me bring back the raed hate

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-cat-cute-gif-4544032

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm no response regarding 45g spring from wuque lfgg

[sacred elm]

They're eeping

[chilly mural]

it's 12AM in Asia

well, china

[tawdry tree]

that’s no excuse to not be making springs for fluxies

[humble surge]

So true, science must never stop

[tropic urchin]

i just want a spring pack

just make new springs and sell that separately

[polar girder]

Wait what is flux spring weight?

[sacred elm]

50

[polar girder]

Ew

Gross

[kind helm]

damn i almost didnt recognize bigsly, bro is using avatar now

[chilly mural]

bro got updated

[jade narwhal]

i dont think wuque will do that bc people in china who use magnetic switch seems to have no need on changing spring.

[sacred elm]

They should release springs, because other springs aren't compatible at all

[kind helm]

from what i see, the HE users are gamers mostly and the keyboard nerds kinda just stay with MX mostly.

[sacred elm]

Not everyone likes 50g

Some want heavy springs, some light

[kind helm]

so yeee it is not a big thing definitely

[marsh saffron]

I kinda wanna try heavier springs

70 or 80g prob

[sacred elm]

Cool

[unkempt linden]

ty

[tropic urchin]

valid

[chilly mural]

50g is all you need

[forest badge]

So i finally tried the U&R ice studio ultra magnetic switches

I would rank theses overall accordingly in this list:
u&r ice ultras > duhuk herz > ttc elf kings > jade pro

These switches almost fixes this quirk/issue with magnetic switches. It is the upstroke rattle sound when the switch's stem hits it's top housing. The sound is still present but not the the degree of every other magnetic switch such as the elf kings, duhuk herz, jade pros etc. i find the unique rattle sound very unpleasing to me.

These switches are also probably the tightest i've tried so far. the stem does not wobble horizontally at all when stationary but there is some vertical play. When the switches are pressed all the way down there is absolutely zero wobble. despite its tightness these switches remain incredibly smooth, smoother than the elf kings which was my previous best smooth switch. the lubing is very consistent with my batch. the ttc elf kings by comparison were overlubed, some were completely dry on the rails and were a lil scratchy.
Moreover, the springs that came with the ur ice ultras were actually measured 22mm in length despite what some people have measured.
in mikey's video they were 15mm long only
maybe i got the updated versions of the ice ultra's???
they are definitly longer than the elf kings 15mm springs (they were advertised as 17mm by ttc)

[polar girder]

No wonder all you cave men love them so much

Yeah some piece of shit AI avatar just cuz lol

https://divinikey.com/products/pbtfans-klein-blue-keycap-set-doubleshot-abs

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/i-mean-its-alright-gif-26963792

[robust siren]

blue xrays 👀

[fringe quarry]

Deltakey does not plan to stock Freyas for now

[high apex]

how does stability compare between the ti he's and the raptor v2s? like what quantifies a change from A to S?

[peak breach]

waptow better

[peak breach]

sno uploaded a video comparing the wobbles, and since he's the one that made the list i'd say check that out

[tropic urchin]

better bottom stability

ti has good top wobble and mid bottom, raptor has similar if not better top and much better bottom stability

[glacial wind]

just more stable is what quantifies it. A lot of mx stems aren't as stable at bottom, raptor is one of the few that are as stable as the good walled stems at bottom

raptor is by far better than ti and any mx at top as well

the top wobble is untouched by basically every other switch

the tradeoff is the spring stuff if you get it

[high apex]

wdym by spring stuff?

[glacial wind]

the faq pic mentions it

there's some spring crunching in rare instances

[high apex]

oh i see

but it's rare right?

so i can just buy a few more if necessary

[glacial wind]

yeah although certain types of gameplay seem to trigger it more

like osu type playing

[high apex]

like it develops as you use it?

[glacial wind]

whereas other types seem to not trigger it much because we have a bunch of folks here who have never seen it ever

[sacred elm]

Yes.

[glacial wind]

kinda. It depends on your usage again

if you don't use it the specific way that triggers it then you will never see it

[high apex]

ok, well i don't play osu so i'll probably be fine

thanks for the help

[tropic urchin]

i wouldnt say rare instances, but i didnt develop mine as fast as shafie on W/S keys

[glacial wind]

i mean overall

like as in everyone who owns raptors vs instances of it happening

seems to be very specific usage and people that get it

i'm actually not even sure if astrolinks are free of this issue

because astrolinks were way less popular, so we may just not have seen it happen on them because not many people used them

[proper karma]

does any one know if dwarf factory artisan keycaps work on the wooting 60he

[peak breach]

Why wouldn’t they?

[tawdry tree]

they seem to be but shouldn’t be. I couldn’t get its springs to fold on themselves like with the Raptors, but other than that they’re identical. springs can move just as much.

[paper bison]

wym i like my springs with a bit of texture

crunch munch

[trail bane]

Gn

[mossy lance]

Sorry if this has been asked before, will lekker springs packs fit geon raptor v2 switches? Trying to look for slow 78g or just 80g(Can find it on the wooting website so readily available)

[hollow sand]

Currrently thinking about the WS dash or geonworks Raptor HE. Any thoughts?

[paper bison]

buy both

easy

[calm pulsar]

WS dash are an older switch, they are a slight recolor of original jades (not pros)

[hollow sand]

Kinda lost, what is even the difference?

[calm pulsar]

newer switches have improved tolerances, so less wobble and cleaner sound

[hollow sand]

Alright, so jade/jade pro is a better choice?

[robust siren]

say no to gateron switches

[hollow sand]

Might wait for the tikken ones, looks promising. Any ETA on release?

[tropic urchin]

Dash is a waste of $, just recolored OG jades. Replace it with owlabs or new raptor

[paper bison]

Q4 2025 is all we know

If you want a switch now, go with Owlab Ti HE or Raptor V2

[trail bane]

My Gateron sensors started screaming, so I had to wake up and figure out what was going on

[paper bison]

my Lekker V1s are sleeping soundly in the 60

[hollow sand]

Might just get the case and new keycaps and wait it out till the tikkens release.

[trail bane]

https://tenor.com/view/feednanyangi-nanyangi-luna-jaemin-luna-sleepy-nanyangi-sleepy-gif-1596089920556574778

[paper bison]

Still waiting to see if my aliexpress fluxes are fake

[hollow sand]

Guess the tikkens will work in the og 60 he?

[paper bison]

Yes

[hollow sand]

Sorry for being a smartass im just lost lol

[paper bison]

You're not dw

if you can wait, see how the tikkens are, if you need one now, then follow the guide in #🪛│modding_faq

[tropic urchin]

Nah, most HE switches will work fine. I think Sno also has a compatibility list somewhere on his mod site

[sacred elm]

Compatibility list: https://link.wooting.io/soundtests

[north girder]

are the ws flux on there

ah they are and they are not recommended

[sacred elm]

This might change if they decrease the official pricing.

[north girder]

ah so its a price thing

[sacred elm]

Price and some QC issues

[drifting edge]

What sound does the Lekker L45 V2s make if referencing this image?

[sacred elm]

Probably just muted

G Flux
H Lekker v2

[azure kayak]

How many switches on a 80he?

[paper bison]

84?

[sacred elm]

84 ANSI
85 ISO
88 JIS

[paper bison]

damn jis has 88

[north girder]

nah cant be 85 on iso

[sacred elm]

ok, count it.

[north girder]

87

nvm misscount 85

[fringe quarry]

Candykeys arent sure yet if they will stock Freya

so ig i have to buy from Geon

[sacred elm]

Ask UniKeys

[fringe quarry]

👍

[little glen]

What plate

Stock pc plate?

[sacred elm]

Yes, regular Fluxes are very loud so I use PC plate. Will swap it with FR4 once Deep Clacky Fluxes arrive

[little glen]

Would love to hear both on fr4

Maybe i‘ll try some fluxies if they go down a bit more (and i can actually buy them here)

[sacred elm]

I doubt it will get cheaper than what it is now on Ali

[little glen]

Tho i wasnt really planning to buy anything up until tikkens are out

[tropic urchin]

We got any scotch enjoyers in chat

[little glen]

Probably true

But i cant buy from that shop anyway

Since they block germany specifically for some reason

[tropic urchin]

@cyan lark @stray tiger for the more learned among us

[little glen]

Sometimes i drink some fancy alcohol that my dad buys

And i dont get it

Maybe i‘m too cheap to buy drinks that expensive

[tropic urchin]

dont look behind the glass

you dont want to go crazy, but you also dont want that cheap shit

[little glen]

Oh yeah my parents always have some nice liquor or wine and shit

If i drink, its to get drunk so i just get booze that wont make me go blind

Thats the only criteria i have

[tropic urchin]

you should work for smirnoff

[little glen]

The nicest stuff i have in my posession rn is probably some chilli liquor and some moonshine with nut flavor

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/pause-gay-no-gif-15366401

[little glen]

The chilli stuff is pretty nice but you can only drink a tiny bit cause its so spicy

Anyway, whats with keyboard ali stores not shipping to germany

[upbeat cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-happy-content-joy-aaron-paul-gif-15028236

thats the chili P

[cyan lark]

Regular bourbon boy, but I’ve never bought Scotch. Love it but I only enjoy with others (on their dime)

[stray tiger]

Just recently finished this bottle off.

[tropic urchin]

i told the guy at total wine that i was more of a tequila guy and his face looked like i spoiled the ending of a new movie xD

[cyan lark]

Express track to lost respect

[olive yew]

Stopped drinking when Covid hit

[tropic urchin]

he recommended some Mi Familia flores and i just got thru those recently

[cyan lark]

(I don’t love it personally, I respect enjoyers)

[tropic urchin]

you can call me a crazy bitch if you like i wont bite

[stray tiger]

Tell me you live on the West coast without telling me

[tropic urchin]

opposite chief hehe

[cyan lark]

Boy’s just a bit confused

Touched

[stray tiger]

Oh shit total wine is east coast too

[cyan lark]

Easy coast ❤️

[tropic urchin]

total wine is such a nice spot

[olive yew]

Yall ain’t lived if you haven’t bought alcohol in a milk jug

[stray tiger]

Id only ever seen it out west lol

[tropic urchin]

i first found it in Florida

[stray tiger]

That bottle I just finished was great but I'd never pay the $400-$500 asking price

[olive yew]

Andddd that’s why I don’t drink

[cyan lark]

I mean there’s pricey drink and there’s show off

[olive yew]

I’d rather buy bitcoin or stocks with those prices

[cyan lark]

I remember making my company foot the bill for a $50 glass of Pappy Van Winkle. Stupid but not my money

[tropic urchin]

think most expensive ive had is slightly over $100

[fluid ravine]

can i hab some fada

[tropic urchin]

i stay in my $40-60 lane

[cyan lark]

The sweet spot

[stray tiger]

I didn't pay $500 for it, I won dibs to buy it in the state liquor lottery and got to buy it at retail price which was $99.

[cyan lark]

Almost reasonable 😀

[paper bison]

Finished off a bottle of Ardbeg 25 I got as a graduation gift a couple months ago

Nothing compares 💔

[reef oar]

nothing compares to the sweet fresh nectar of a Coca Cola

fuck alcohol

[viral yarrow]

ice wine is where its at

thats real ball knowledge

[stoic ocean]

Ayran and water on top no debate

[vapid tartan]

do i need to buy lube for the lekker l45 and the module

[paper bison]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-diabetes-diabetus-intensifies-gif-11779996

[polar girder]

The more Coca Cola you drink, your blood consistency gets closer to that of Coca Cola.

[calm pulsar]

then just drink some blood to restore the balance

[reef oar]

coca cola blood and a functioning liver

i'll take it

[polar girder]

Brain dead or big brain? You be the judge.

[queen otter]

I like water

[warped marsh]

is this still true? or can i swap out the wooting uwu switches with switches from third party the same as the normal wooting keyboards

[glacial wind]

yeah, uwu is just a smaller wooting

[warped marsh]

kk ill for sure get some, the lekkers r insanely wobbly and rattly

[upbeat cloak]

oo my lekkers were not that shaky

[warped marsh]

yeah its honestly rly bad

but i never saw this issue on a full sized wooting kb before

even with the original lekkers

so idk whats up with these ones

[robust siren]

lube has left the chat

[glacial wind]

okay good news, the tactile gaterons work fine magnet wise since they're less travel

they feel weird and i don't like the bump for HE though, but that's a whole different issue lol

[chilly mural]

any sound test?

[warped marsh]

monkaW

[chilly mural]

lmao

[warped marsh]

and the only other reseller i could find

and other site

[glacial wind]

Not a fan of the sound either. They have some sort of chattery top sound I assume due to the tactile bit

[calm pulsar]

yeah tactile on HE probably amplifies the noises even more

[glacial wind]

that's tactile on S vs Tikken on D

[tropic urchin]

what switch is this

[glacial wind]

jade emerald

[tropic urchin]

oh wow

i was expecting an abomination

[robust siren]

it sounds sticky lol

[warped marsh]

I can't decide if I go raptor he V2 or geon raws

[kind helm]

owlab ti he

[robust siren]

mmd c1s

[kind helm]

still waiting on c1s

mine just departed china

[robust siren]

got mine a few days ago

[warped marsh]

Why go heavier switch

[kind helm]

should get it this week though

[robust siren]

mmd c1 are 38 grams

[kind helm]

40g is heavy???

[robust siren]

geon raw has 40,50,60

[warped marsh]

They're 50g bottom out

For the owlabs

[kind helm]

owlab ti he has 2 versions

[robust siren]

but geon raw starting is lighter than mmd c1 starting