🔧│keyboard_modding

[stiff ivy]

Really?

[fringe quarry]

yo what is the freya switch

[woven parrot]

Yo

I’m said wooting isn’t wireless

Should I buy a coiled cable aswell to cope

Might aswell buy food at this point

[stiff ivy]

I have to take out like what, 70-ish keys individually?

[woven parrot]

Talia and chilli Cheetos are these best ngl

[marsh saffron]

60he or 80he?

[stiff ivy]

60!

[marsh saffron]

its like 61-64

61 for ansi

[stiff ivy]

Wait do I have to relube?

[marsh saffron]

nah

you got the ti hes right?

[stiff ivy]

Yeah I need to get like a box or something

[stiff ivy]

Yeah yeah

[marsh saffron]

those are really well lubed from factory, i didnt bother lubing mine

[stiff ivy]

Oh, you are using them as well?

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[stiff ivy]

Do you play FPS games?

[marsh saffron]

yes

[fringe quarry]

new addition to geon firmware

cant find anything about it tho

[stiff ivy]

They feel better than lekkers in terms of movements?

[woven parrot]

Definitely

[marsh saffron]

stem wobble is a huge improvement yeah

[woven parrot]

Does that affect sound ?

[stiff ivy]

Hope it's the right one for me, can't wait to try it out

[marsh saffron]

yeah it makes it sound less chattery

[woven parrot]

It doesn’t I think

[woven parrot]

Oh alr

Well I can’t wait for the ultra so I just bought it

[stiff ivy]

Keycaps uhh any recommendations to keycaps that feels simillar on the surface to the stock keycaps?

[woven parrot]

Btw the reason I only hug from Amazon

Is Beacause I don’t want my auntie to find out

[marsh saffron]

whats your budget for them

[woven parrot]

Like last time

Buy*

[stiff ivy]

As least as possible

[woven parrot]

37$

?

[marsh saffron]

search on ali

[stiff ivy]

I wanted to give up tbh, but I wanted to reward myself and do something fun since summer is ending

[marsh saffron]

tons of options for quite cheap, can also get clones if you want

[stiff ivy]

Done and got alot this summer

[stiff ivy]

Yeah, clones might be the best option. I don't know how they will feel on the surface though. I hate the smoother keycaps

Feels off

[marsh saffron]

make sure to get pbt ones

any keycap will start to smooth over time

but cheap pbt will last a lot longer than cheap abs

or just get xrays

cant even notice the shine visually

[stiff ivy]

No shine on my current keycaps yet after 2 years of heavy daily use

I wash my hands everytime I play so uhh

+1

I agree

[woven parrot]

Yo

[stiff ivy]

Though not too much, I think what the stock keycaps are is perfect for me

Sometimes less is more

Probably grew over time

[woven parrot]

Never do that

[stiff ivy]

If only ibm keyboard survived until 2023

I could've just throw away my horrible years of using the cheap keyboards

[woven parrot]

Do you have to buy premium coiled cables?

People keep telling me to

[stiff ivy]

I mean I can manage, but somehow using better keyboard just completely spoils me it feels like

New model M?

A 99% rebuild?

No reason not to try it

Probably nostalgia baiting?

[woven parrot]

Damn that’s pretty expensive

[stiff ivy]

I don't know

I mean as far as I remember they feel so freaking good

Like I'm not even kidding, every press of a button you know damn well you pressed it

[woven parrot]

I found a few on eBay

[stiff ivy]

wtf

Well not to hide from the fact I played mainly flash games with it back then

I only have experience with the mx blue

I didn't like it that much tbh

[woven parrot]

I only been through red

[stiff ivy]

What is bucklign spring?

[woven parrot]

Do not say that to hipyo

[stiff ivy]

Agreed

[woven parrot]

Mb mistaken you for clacky

[stiff ivy]

Oooh so it wasn't mechanical?

I mean like switches and stuff nowadays

[woven parrot]

Ye

[stiff ivy]

the more you know

[woven parrot]

Is that bullets for a gun

[stiff ivy]

I really like old tech stuff

They feel

They feel more feel

I don't know how to say it

I'm stupid

[woven parrot]

Literally

They were built without greed

[stiff ivy]

I hope I can find that with the 60HE

[woven parrot]

But now that’s impossible to find something that is built without greed

[stiff ivy]

Not gonna lie, I never thought I would miss my first keyboard that much

[woven parrot]

Same but I still have to do you

[stiff ivy]

Impossible these days, big corps likes to earn, small companies need to earn, indies has to earn even more

[woven parrot]

Yeah exactly

[stiff ivy]

I gotta first ask my father if he is still keeping the keyboard

This

[woven parrot]

That’s very cheap

What yall doing for a living

I’m in residency to become a child psychiatrist

[stiff ivy]

40 euro ain't much to fix what I miss

[woven parrot]

Nice

[stiff ivy]

I can still type on it sure, it's just that there'll be no output since the keyboard's dead lmao

[woven parrot]

Tomorrow I will transform my keeb

[stiff ivy]

Making coffee to ensure I don't fall asleep every 2 seconds

[woven parrot]

Damn pretty chill

[stiff ivy]

There's no output anymore, otherwise clean

this

[woven parrot]

Finalmouse tho

[stiff ivy]

Fingers crossed to my father still having it

[woven parrot]

We will pray for it

Yall remember this guy

Gravy cat man

[stiff ivy]

Well, if things go wrong we still have the 60HE right here B)

[woven parrot]

Yoo complex

[stiff ivy]

Easy to install right?

I never opened it before

[calm pulsar]

amen

[stiff ivy]

So uhhh

[reef oar]

amen

[woven parrot]

Ameen

[stiff ivy]

I have like a big box with all types of screw head so uhh

I think I have it?

[woven parrot]

Do I need screwdriver to remove switches

And install switches

[stiff ivy]

Nothing that can't be fixed with money (i have 10 dollars in my bank account)

[trail bane]

Amen

[woven parrot]

I can’t wait to build keeb

[stiff ivy]

Plastic but like

Good plastic

Idk how to say it

I don't remember how it feels anymore

It's like forgetting a face that you swear to never forget

I mean I never really picked it up

Sometimes you gotta cherish the things you have right now

[woven parrot]

We have been here forever

Can I do it with you

[stiff ivy]

I might just mod mine and make it something mine

[woven parrot]

Lemme join you

[stiff ivy]

I love things that I can get attatches to, get over stuff I lost as a kid

[woven parrot]

You ever get into Pokémon cards ?

@untold wigeon @stiff ivy

[stiff ivy]

It's like personalizing something you have

[woven parrot]

No you gotta accept

Or I will steal them all

[stiff ivy]

Uhh, I bought 2 packs this year for fun

[woven parrot]

Same but I only played with those when I was a kid for nostalgia

[stiff ivy]

If it ain't wearing, you ain't using it

[stiff ivy]

Never got the money to play with stuff as a kid

I mainly use my dad's pc

[woven parrot]

Damn lucky to

Same

[stiff ivy]

Never recalled having any, what does it look like

[woven parrot]

Do you buy everything off starving people?

[cobalt gate]

anyone know where i can find some sound tests on the Gateron Moonlight?

[stiff ivy]

taking the keyboard for a swim

[woven parrot]

Welcome to the party

[stiff ivy]

I don't know where other than just searching it up

[woven parrot]

Ping aligned

@tawdry tree

Yeah

And use cashapp aswell

[stiff ivy]

Damn, when will I get to this position in life

[woven parrot]

And PayPal

[stiff ivy]

I mean all the stuff I got I all use it to the fullest

But I mean I wanna change things here and there often, my old PC just died so I got a new one. Been worrying about my pickiness tbh

[woven parrot]

Thanks to you imma switch to budget

For my mums sake

[stiff ivy]

That PC was like pretty old, same age as the keyboard if not older

[woven parrot]

Is that a real question)

I already have wooting 60he

Just looking too mod it with the jade pro

Me like the sound

[cobalt gate]

theres nothing on google as far as i've seen. was just wondeirng if someone posted a video here or something

[stiff ivy]

I have my WASD keys as the Gateron Jades, I don't think it feels any different from the lekkers

[woven parrot]

It’s not like anyone can come to my house and buy me better ones

[woven parrot]

Yeah my jade pros it’s better

[stiff ivy]

I break too much stuff or is it that I notice every time I break something

[woven parrot]

Should I really wait for ice ultras

[stiff ivy]

probably a bit of both

[woven parrot]

Side hustle

[stiff ivy]

wow, i sell stuff but only my old stuff i wasn't using anymore

[woven parrot]

I can’t believe we all are already married

I’m married to my future wife (:

[stiff ivy]

my iphone 7 plus still going strong, good luck my overheating phone

[stiff ivy]

i'll probably die alone but yay

[woven parrot]

What about engineers

[woven parrot]

Dw if you do then get cats

I have iPhone 13 Pro Max and iPhone 6 and my brother has iPhone 15 pro max

iPhone 13 was peak for me bc it had 120hz screen

[stiff ivy]

I feel attatched to my 7. I nearly went for the 14 last year as I got some spare money, ended up saving to what is my current PC

I still have my old iphone 6

it's seen better days

[woven parrot]

Bro medical school gonna be so hard please help

[stiff ivy]

other than the over heating problem, all good

[woven parrot]

Imma be like one of those engineer students

I’m smart tho

I do

Got all 9s

Gcse

Dw it’s not that deep

I make prayer and it will come true

My friend is bossman

He is kebab guy

[stiff ivy]

level 99 boss?

[woven parrot]

Ye lvl 999

[stiff ivy]

alrighty

have a good night or day wherever you guys are

I'm probably hitting the hay as well

[sacred elm]

Keep this channel about keyboards, go discuss this somewhere else.

[woven parrot]

Alr bye

[stiff ivy]

sorry...

[woven parrot]

Sorry

[sweet oak]

amen to the pibbles

[reef oar]

amen

[untold wigeon]

How do I make my FN key to swap to keyboard layout 2 to when I hold it?

[woven parrot]

Shortcut

[untold wigeon]

How do I make a shortcut?

I feel like a noob

[woven parrot]

First

Show me which keyboard

You using

[untold wigeon]

60HE+

[woven parrot]

Oh that’s pretty easy one sec

I think these is pretty good

[untold wigeon]

No but I wanna bind the FN 1 key to when holding it

It swaps layout

Like I had another profile earlier where it did that

Like it changes from primary

To Function 1 layer

[woven parrot]

Oh I see

[untold wigeon]

So that I can use those buttons that I have binded inside there

[woven parrot]

Ahh

[untold wigeon]

For a short time

[woven parrot]

Just get ice ultras then they are way more stable

[untold wigeon]

I do not think you know what I mean

I am talking about the software and linking a shortcut/remap for the layout

Not the keyboard itself

[woven parrot]

Ohh

I thought you talking about switches

[untold wigeon]

Nah

I am talking about linking layer to Fn 1 key

Inside wootility

[woven parrot]

Ohh ok I understand

Ahu

[untold wigeon]

But I do not know how to do this

[woven parrot]

I know I think

[woven parrot]

That’s a good deal

Stonks at its finest

[untold wigeon]

Nevermind its already binded

[woven parrot]

See I told you

[untold wigeon]

[woven parrot]

Anyone has jade pros switches

Or ice ultra

[woven parrot]

@gilded quartz

Yo

Are the switches good

@rain geode

Can you help?

You helped before

@steel tartan

Hello

[south anchor]

Anyone know any good keycaps for the 80he

[woven parrot]

I do

[woven parrot]

You want it ?

[south anchor]

what are they called

[robust siren]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[woven parrot]

Hey

These switches good?

[rain geode]

wrong person, sorry ^^

[woven parrot]

Oh it’s alr dw

@robust siren

Yoo

I got same specs as you

[robust siren]

jade pros..? its fine but its overpriced

[woven parrot]

It’s alr I got the money for it

[robust siren]

didnt shafie answer you earlier

[little glen]

Still on that buying overpriced switches from amazon shit

[woven parrot]

Yeah but then it’s different brand

[woven parrot]

The ice ultras aren’t arriving till the 6th

I ain’t waiting that long when all my other stuff arriving Monday

[robust siren]

its only a week from today and like 5 days behind the other stuff

[woven parrot]

But are they really that better?

Like I know it’s more stable but I don’t think it’s that big of a difference

[sacred elm]

Then your only option is Jade Pro, why are you asking the same question 10 times when people already answered it?

Also what were those random pings above ? Stop being annoying

[woven parrot]

Bc they keep saying overprice

[little glen]

Just put the switches in the bag

[woven parrot]

I’m second guessing

[little glen]

Of course they are overpriced, its on amazon

[woven parrot]

Yeah ik

[little glen]

You can have good price or amazon not both

[woven parrot]

It’s said you can give them a offer

Sad

Imma wait for it to be cheaper

[robust siren]

its made by gateron*

[little glen]

That too

Double whammy

[robust siren]

also arent jade pros green

why are those grey

[woven parrot]

Bc

Uk brand

Customer keyboards uk

[woven parrot]

How much does a oled cost 240hz?

I have been trying to find but I can’t find any in my region

[ornate quest]

Dude, you're the whole day on amazon and can't find out this stuff?

[robust siren]

the 240hz version of my monitor is 800 usd no sales

360hz isnt cheaper
its 900 usd no sales

[woven parrot]

800isd

[woven parrot]

Idk I’m just weird sometimes ngl

Everyone is tbh

I found one for 500 pounds

[robust siren]

new one thats 500hz is 1k

[robust siren]

just use the filters on the left..?

[woven parrot]

I’m in my bed on my phone I don’t see it as easily

[trail bane]

Ahem #🌐│pc_gear

Gn y’all

[inner wren]

Hello i currently have the lekker v2s with 45g springs does anyone know any switches that are better? And arent as scratchy as them im willing to spend like 50-80euros

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[inner wren]

Also id like them to have a spring around the same g

[robust siren]

basically any from this list

including geon raws

[inner wren]

Any switch that u liked the most?

[robust siren]

i only have the geon raws but TI HE seems to be the favorite right now

[inner wren]

Whys rhat

That

[robust siren]

theyre basically the geon raws but with a little less stem wobble

[inner wren]

Never heard of the geons too haven't really been watching the recent switches but what is the price on ti he

[robust siren]

image says 40-45 per 90

[inner wren]

Ahh didnt see

Ill see if i can find them

Only ali express popping up should i be ordering them there

[robust siren]

whos the seller

[sacred elm]

Owlab Ti, UR Ice Ultra

They're both similar, Ice Ultra is just slightly deeper sounding

[robust siren]

fund me for ice ultras

[sacred elm]

If you're not in a rush, wait for Lekker Tikkens. They're basically deeper Owlab Ti's with 4mm travel distance.

[inner wren]

Which one is more expensive

[inner wren]

When are they coming

[sacred elm]

Q4 this year

[robust siren]

pretty sure theyre around the same

@sacred elm

[sacred elm]

Lekker Tikken sound test in 60HE v2 https://youtube.com/shorts/_71htZmkbMo?si=IyZqNGQEafuqNxXv

Wobble comparison #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[robust siren]

i gotta pay like 20 shipping for owlabs

[sacred elm]

That's cheap

[robust siren]

does ice ultras only have 1 bottom out force?

[inner wren]

Is this real

[robust siren]

its the same price on ali
hmmm

i get 12% cashback on ali rn cause of rakuten

wait i might actually buy it

fuck being done modding

[sacred elm]

If you're in EU, order them from DeltaKey

or Unikeys

[robust siren]

found it for even cheaper on ali same seller as this website

[inner wren]

Could u send me a link for the 50s?

Im eu

[sacred elm]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/owlab-ti-he-switches?variant=50808438587733

[robust siren]

@sacred elm difference between owlab tis and geon raws just side to side wobble?

[spice plover]

i have the 240hz 4k its amazing

[inner wren]

Do i just buy it 7 times?

[sacred elm]

Slightly less wobble. Also Ti's don't have that weird sticking at the top like Raws.

[sacred elm]

For 60HE you need 7 packs, yes.

[robust siren]

ah okay, i heard a sound comparison a while back and i think the switch from raws -> ice will be more noticible than raws -> ti

[inner wren]

For sure

💔

[inner wren]

Who even thought this was a good idea

[sacred elm]

Check MMD C1 on AliExpress, aligner said they're deeper than Ice Ultras

THOCKKK

[inner wren]

Shafie is there any discount code

[robust siren]

MMD Obsidian C1s

?

[sacred elm]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJv2DVY

[inner wren]

It is worth it buying them tho right going from the v2 45s lekkers to the owlab?

[sacred elm]

Sound tests #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[robust siren]

w o a h

[sacred elm]

Yes, Owlabs or any other new gen switches have noticeably less stem wobble than Lekkers.

[robust siren]

but hows the lubing

[inner wren]

Alright thanks ill just go with them since it isnt that much money u have to spend anyway and they sound pretty nice in comparison

[robust siren]

oh quick search said theres some sticking

hmm

but thockfather said his doesnt have that issue

[inner wren]

Ah btw ive been having some problems with my v2 lekkers theyve been pretty scratchy that wont be the same for the owlabs right?

[robust siren]

im a gambling man
i like my chances

[inner wren]

[steel ibex]

Worth

[robust siren]

ordered

[deft nimbus]

What’s the most creamy switches I could add

[tulip rapids]

just put lotion on your keyboard

[deft nimbus]

I’m not doing that bro

[tulip rapids]

@fluid ravine hes looking for that CREAM CREAM

[tulip rapids]

dw bro im bringing in the number one NA cream specialist

[deft nimbus]

Bro I just need to know if there even is halleffect creamy switches

[fluid ravine]

huh

[fluid ravine]

There aren't

honestly no such thing as a "creamy switch"

it's the whole board itself that alters the sound, and the sound "cream" is just a buzz word

[tulip rapids]

ty for providing your cream expertise

you are bery bery open minded

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

[reef lava]

Whats this switch? New bis?

[reef lava]

Or is it the max?

[fallen pecan]

jade emerald vs jade pro sound

[chilly mural]

sounds okay, nice even

[woven parrot]

They both sound kinda nice to me mine is horrid

Hopefully they arrive soon from Amazon

[stiff ivy]

Currently using the og jade, there's like little to 0 different to the feel imo. Hearing the vid, there might be 0 difference to the sound as well

That or I am deaf

[fluid ravine]

eh

damn my expectations be high lately with HE switches, esp with how they sound

[chilly mural]

that's to be expected, a lot of them are getting better and better for the past 1 year

[calm pulsar]

thats fair but HE manus keep doing weird stuff like split stems and such😭

[chilly mural]

all of em are fine, but not charging $2 per switch

[fluid ravine]

honestly at this point, i'd say stop with this gimick shit, HE switches are tight enough, start experimenting with the materials and slight change in mold damnit

pee

em

oh

[calm pulsar]

nylon ti he/rapters would be interesting to try

[fluid ravine]

what's the parts?

[calm pulsar]

like if top and bottom were nylon, curious how that would go on HE

[fluid ravine]

while me just wanting another fiberglass bottom housing LOL

nylon top

[calm pulsar]

does it simply make the bottom out louder?

[fluid ravine]

yup sharper and louder

it's like what you hear with some HMX switches

i lied, no one saw tht

[calm pulsar]

I saw

[fluid ravine]

shhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stiff ivy]

Should I worry about getting a counterfeit Ti HE?

[fluid ravine]

i dont think there are any lol

[stiff ivy]

It's new?

[fluid ravine]

sorta (yes)

let's just say they're apart of the new gen switches

otherwise you should just buy from a trusted vendor if you're that worried

i doubt there even are counterfeits

[stiff ivy]

I mean I am buying from a vendor that's highly trusted but afaik I don't get the box to go along with it, I'll be getting the keycaps in a plastic bag? '

Ziplock to be precise

Makes it look a bit sketchy but I'm probably being paranoid

[fluid ravine]

i mean some vendors sell in bag, lil boxes, and waht not

depends really

like or example my geon raws first batch came in a neat box from geon directly

but when i bought a newer batch a few months or so later from divnikeys, it came in lil bags of their own

my HMX switches also came in a lil plastic ziplock bag

duhuks for me came in a lil plastic can container from aliexpress

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stiff ivy]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[calm pulsar]

duhuks? you mean counterfeit ti he?

[fluid ravine]

alright buds

leave dem duhuks alone

they're a switch of their own with their fiberglass bottom housing

[stiff ivy]

I don't understand but I'll sit here and listen

[fluid ravine]

unlike some other switches

grrr

even though i hate their stem

ruined everything

[calm pulsar]

the guy who was buying my duhuks didnt collect them so they came back to my post office, I've been lazy to pick them up

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

should I build the frankens out of them

rahuks

[fluid ravine]

i forgot abt taht

yes

try em

[stiff ivy]

switch stuff around different switches?

[fluid ravine]

dont mess with the lube

[fluid ravine]

yup

mix the parts

experiment

[stiff ivy]

is that recommended?

[stiff ivy]

science!

[fluid ravine]

basically

it's done in the MX scene

it's interestin

[calm pulsar]

I think my frog mini wooting 60 and jade knights (my franken) were the best build I've ever done so yeah its nice to experiment

[fluid ravine]

first HE combo we use to do back then would be Geon Raptor v1 with Lekkers

[stiff ivy]

Wait, why doesn't cherry make HE switches?

[calm pulsar]

but it can also lead to too tight switches, cause of incompatible tolerances

[fluid ravine]

then we got Arc over here doing the most random shit that actually sounds good

[fluid ravine]

i think they got something planned

but rn i dont think so

[stiff ivy]

When I have enough switches, I'll come here to ask

[fluid ravine]

i think it's better to ask before having enough hehe

[stiff ivy]

I don't really know the switch world of normal mechanical keyboards, is gateron the biggest or cherry?

[fluid ravine]

because lately HE switches be having diff mold

dimensions

[stiff ivy]

Oh

[fluid ravine]

yeah we can cook up analysis on the sizes and predictions on what is compatible or not

[stiff ivy]

I have Lekkers 60, 45v2, Jades and upcoming is gonna be the TI HE

[fluid ravine]

and some of us have all switches

[stiff ivy]

Not many options but uhh

[fluid ravine]

and you can ask them yourself to try it out

[calm pulsar]

tbf ti he are already good enough

so among yours there is no need to franken them

[fluid ravine]

nixies wanna be

[stiff ivy]

I'm a beginner so I don't wanna even take my keyboard apart lmao

[fluid ravine]

lol

[stiff ivy]

feels scary

[fluid ravine]

leave it to the big boys

my current fraken switch

even though basically the same as the previous pic

lol

[calm pulsar]

lol its not that bad, the board is made for customizing after all

it's not like you need to solder

[fluid ravine]

just dont go to extremes like some of us

yeah

[stiff ivy]

Should I wear gloves, or worry about electricity anything?

[fluid ravine]

nah

lmao

barehands fine

[calm pulsar]

nah just need your radiation hazard suit

[fluid ravine]

even your grippy dawg toes

LMAO

[stiff ivy]

Someone told me the same thing when I built my PC lmao

Probably too paranoid

[fluid ravine]

telekinesis

[stiff ivy]

too broke to dare

[fluid ravine]

pc different story

[calm pulsar]

for PC it's a different thing (I built mine without any gloves and with my cat running around when I was building)

[stiff ivy]

Oh shi, then I must've gotten really lucky

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar after months of the rawhukies i feel like the top out sound is a placebo affect by me idk

i feel like chaning it to raw top housing

see wsp

[safe stag]

What is top bottom stem ?

[fluid ravine]

i might be crazy

[fluid ravine]

Rawhukies (Duhuk Top and Bottom Housing, Geon Raw stem, 62g 20mm Ali Springs)

thank god i got that saved

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

what's with the top out sound on rawhuks?

[fluid ravine]

i think back then i was tripping out on waht sounded like looser

like HE has it's own like natural chatter on the top out

[safe stag]

I heard idk where that everglide skyline parts are compatible with raws and duhuks

[calm pulsar]

yeah a lot of them do

[fluid ravine]

like ok here's the reason why i like REALLY want another switch with fiberglass bottom housing

the sharpness and loudness alone of the bottom out with fiberglass can really mask the top out sound

which we wont even hear

[calm pulsar]

if tikkens are produced by the same manu, imagine fiberglass duhukkens

[fluid ravine]

shiiiiiiiiiiii

like honestly my rawhukies sound good

imo

it's just that

the stem magnet doesn't reach its full potential in sound

[safe stag]

Hear me out, top genty bottom fiberglass stem pom smth

[fluid ravine]

which sucks

[calm pulsar]

but genty have the dual rail design which I don't remember being good in any switch lol

orcsh*ds were sticking like jade maxes

[safe stag]

I have both and if I remember correctly stock orcshits have less friction than handlubed maxes

[little glen]

Lets just say

I may have one

Duhukken

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if herz also have the carbon fiber bottom

[fluid ravine]

cf bottom

LOL

[calm pulsar]

or wtv lol

[fluid ravine]

nah it's like ti he

[calm pulsar]

fiberglass

[little glen]

Alu bottom when

[calm pulsar]

does it work

[calm pulsar]

hmm I might collect my duhuks after all

[safe stag]

Enjoy 0 gs bottom flux

[fluid ravine]

PA66 like ti he

[woven parrot]

Yo

[calm pulsar]

ah ic

[fluid ravine]

it's recolor iirc

[woven parrot]

Why is flux so expensive

[fluid ravine]

idk why but i think flux is like a experimental switch tbh

[woven parrot]

Ah alr

[fluid ravine]

just based on the informations in the back of my mine from back then about them

[woven parrot]

Will my wrist rest be ok if it’s like 9cm longer?

[calm pulsar]

as a non native english speaker that was tuff

[fluid ravine]

i can't lie

mid way thorugh typing

im like wtf am i typing

it feels repetitive

[calm pulsar]

[woven parrot]

Lol

[fluid ravine]

i hate english

this is why im dropping out of AP Lang

gg

[woven parrot]

Nice

I’m starting med school

I’m cooked

[fluid ravine]

me in junior year hs

hate it already

[woven parrot]

Lol like the engineer students

[safe stag]

Ton tonton tond ton tonton car ton tonton était poilu 🇫🇷

[woven parrot]

Idk how he turned brown to black tho

[fluid ravine]

wtf 😭

[woven parrot]

Wuhddhxidi dbdixi

[calm pulsar]

че

[woven parrot]

Ħčð

[woven parrot]

Yo what kind of mods is like necessary on a keeb this days

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

ohhh buddy this is where i say

none

less is better 👍

[woven parrot]

Ahh Alr

Ty

I have idea

[fluid ravine]

that don't sound right from the usual sayings

[woven parrot]

Take out old switches

[fluid ravine]

ermmm

[woven parrot]

Sell it

Then buy switches and you make profits

Stonks

[fluid ravine]

Usually, a keyboard is really good if it doesn't need mods

esp ones without a shit ton of foam

or no foam at all

[woven parrot]

My way

I just getting new switches

Keycaps

[fluid ravine]

I'd say keyboards that sounds and feels good without foam is a really good board alone, but having foam would just be a personal option for perference

[woven parrot]

Wrist rest

[woven parrot]

Yeah I like foam

[fluid ravine]

well me i hate foam

unless it really needs it then im fine

i just dont like sound modifier type foams

like ixpe sheets or pcb sheets

hate those

plate and case foam im fine with tbh

[calm pulsar]

funny Im the opposide, I dont use plate and case foam, but I like a soft sheet for the pcb (not ixpe tho)

[fluid ravine]

i lowkey should try a foam sheet in my mx board

[woven parrot]

Going to picnic Rn with my one year old cousin

[fluid ravine]

might be interesting

i never tried a single foam in it

[woven parrot]

Yeah that would be sick

[calm pulsar]

I only like sheets for HE, not sure how they do on MX, my MX is fully foamless too

[fluid ravine]

oh i am never doing it for HE

[woven parrot]

I hope medical ain’t that hard bro 🙏🏼

[fluid ravine]

dont want to mess up actuation

[woven parrot]

Atleast I’m natural at science

[calm pulsar]

I think if anything it raises the actuation point, which is fine for me cause I like to do 0.3-0.4 these days

[fluid ravine]

hmm good point

[fluid ravine]

Dont think bottom one is compatible

[calm pulsar]

I remember doing some cuts to make my 6.25u sheet work on venom lol, it will work if you want, but can also just order a 7u sheet

[calm pulsar]

damn that frog is nice

with brack snail

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar i added the foam sheet

i can already say

no

i hate it

;-;

[calm pulsar]

well it is, after all, all preference

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[fluid ravine]

i mean yeah ig someone would liek this

but im good

[safe stag]

The whole meme is just because of the mx brown displayed on the background

[fluid ravine]

it just doesn't sound right to me
i think itll sound fine for most people

and who knows i guess a handfull might like it

but me no

idk if the mic picks it up very well but this is why i prefer clack on HE and why im desperate for another fiberglass release

like the foam sheet does make the bottom out more noticeably deeper

i dont mind that, hell a lot might like it

but again, to me i think it works well if the bottom out was more louder and higher pitch

cus since it's lower in pitch i can hear the top out sound more now

[calm pulsar]

can't listen rn but yeah maybe that's the case
I might do a new build without anything at all, to see if I like it more

[fluid ravine]

it sort of annoys me which is why i think it sounds a bit weird

eh ima remove the sheet tmr

5am i need to eep

oh wait make it today tf LMAO

[fluid ravine]

@tulip rapids you might like this

i dont but dont let my opinions change your thoughts hehe

damn mic really doesn't do justice for what im hearing right now

[calm pulsar]

im from the future, it's 3 pm here and I can say the world hasn't blown itself up

[fluid ravine]

it surprisingly sounds decent to good

fug me

[fluid ravine]

dang it

[trail bane]

I don’t know where I’m from, but I do know for sure that it’s time to eat dumplings now, and I need to get ready for the dorm :(

[trail bane]

Definitely at least top 10 build in this server

[little glen]

At least top 3 cause theres only that many people using rawhukies

[trail bane]

Fr

[calm pulsar]

dorm
couldn't be me

[calm pulsar]

damn maybe it is less clear with the sheet on gummy mount

[velvet pivot]

So the thockiest switch would be? Or what is prefered here? I have he80.

[robust siren]

nah theyve been out for a bit now, theyre geon raws but with a deeper sound and shafie put me on game with ones even more deeper-sounding

[tropic urchin]

Probably start with UR Ice ultras or Phylina lightning bolt (box stem version of UR ice)

[stiff ivy]

Wait, changing foam sheets messes with actuation points? I thought the foam sheets go under the board no?

[velvet pivot]

What would you have, if choice was any kind of sound or feel?

[tropic urchin]

my personal two switches i normally use/switch off of are WS Flux (not recommended for thock or price) and the new Raptor V2s. UR Ice/Tikkens are probably the closest to the deep/thocky profile but there isnt alot of the typical MX thock in the HE space rn

Raptors might be worth considering since they're more of a deeper clack than others

[robust siren]

mmd c1s sound deeper than ice ultras

[tropic urchin]

are those new tak?

[robust siren]

i think so

[tropic urchin]

hmmm

[robust siren]

shafie told me about em

[tropic urchin]

i needa take a look

[robust siren]

i was originally gonna order ur ice ultras

[tropic urchin]

I guess add those MMD C1s to the list too

[robust siren]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tropic urchin]

oh its those ones

take a look at those tests @velvet pivot and see if any speaks to you

[robust siren]

got a pack of 70 and its under 20 bucks

[tropic urchin]

dayum

[robust siren]

seems like it still is

[velvet pivot]

Ok, thnx, will look at both. Just curious, what does WS Flux bring on the table to use them? Also Ws flux has deep clack version, any experience?

[tropic urchin]

I only used the original ones, but before raptors they had the best wobble combination to me. The geon raptor v2s has better top wobble, but not as good bottom. Nobody has tried the deep clack version, but the cost to fill an entire board with them I wouldnt rec since they're $2 per switch

they are also i believe the loudest out of the current switch offerings, so they wouldn't fit your thock profile even if you can budget them in

[glacial wind]

Also a lot of qc issues with them that we don’t know if they’re resolved or not yet

[reef lava]

I see i see so the owlab ti still bis

[tropic urchin]

none of which you will experience on a wooting board, but better to go for either the raptors/UR ice/the new MMD ones for better price

[glacial wind]

the legs stuff we don’t know if that’s resolved yet, same with the magnetic spring stuff

honestly the real problem is that for the price it’s hard to tell folks to just swap another switch in if they get a crummy one

with raptors they get a bit of leeway cause you lose like 40 cents if you need to swap one

[tropic urchin]

the legs is small fries and ive never had any weird magnet shit happen, but theres better price propositions available

for how much D and others have talked about it, ive experienced less issues than Raptor spring crunch and owlab ti super tight clips breaking off

[glacial wind]

Raptor issues are not acceptable either and should be noted, the difference is the price of them though doesn’t justify the issues

[tropic urchin]

just not really worth the venture into the $2 per switch territory since they're going to get a recolor by someone hopefully more competent than Wuque to do it

[velvet pivot]

Will do some digging on these. The price I would not much care yet. Although money is always a factor, having 1 or 3 kits of switches is not a large chunk yet. Also i have the plastic case still.

[glacial wind]

Well kind of but not really

Wuque doesn’t make them

They’re made by that new vendor k2 and Wuque licenses it supposedly

[tropic urchin]

not make but 'release' without those issues

[glacial wind]

Which is why the recolors are also $2 lol

They don’t have a competition to recolor it etc

It’s only them making this type of switch so they’ll stay that price until they decide themselves to lower it

Drunkdeer for example also had flux switches announced because they’re not exclusive but recolored and renamed with same pricing

[tropic urchin]

Id say probably start with the Raptor V2s and see if those fit your style first

no need to go into the deep end off rip

[velvet pivot]

But the owlab ti as an al-rounder does not seem to have big praise here?

[tropic urchin]

im not as high on them, but others love them

they're more of the bright clack sphere for sound

[glacial wind]

Owlab one still gets lots of love here

It’s probably been recommended more than any other switch in here if we go over last couple months. Raptors recently came out so that’s why people are talking about them a bit more recently

[velvet pivot]

I also have no bright clack experience yet, might like that aswell.

[glacial wind]

There’s a sound test of both in the pins fyi

[tropic urchin]

^^

sno also had some new tikken tests as well which will be releasing by end of year as well by wooting

you might like those too

[glacial wind]

The main thing is to not worry too much about the best switch because best changes constantly based on individual preferences

It’s kind of like asking what your favourite ice cream flavour is

It’s very rare for any one switch to come out and be best over everything, especially nowadays where there’s limits to what can be changed or improved

[velvet pivot]

True, wouldnt say vanilla is better than choco or mango.

Thanks for input.

[glacial wind]

I actually am curious to see if flux launch a v2 at some point

To see if their factory is able to bring costs more in line with normal pricing for their next switch. That’s assuming the absurd cost right now is due to this being their first switch with a new design too

[trail bane]

Dirt and clean copper plate

Kinda patina

Need to try wax or something

[calm pulsar]

there are thin ones that can go on the pcb

[small thorn]

Idk if this is the right channel for that question, but I search for keycaps that would look good on a black Wooting 80HE (with the plastic casing). I like keycaps that look like this (first image) but in black and maybe with the design only on keys like Strg, Alt, Shift, Caps Lock, etc. I need them to have like the German Layout Keys included.

Like this

(Higround is out of stock)

[tropic urchin]

look for topographic keycaps

which is what the design is called

german layout might be hard to find

[trail bane]

You can check xvx website if you want kinda topographic keycaps like those you send

[woven parrot]

Yoooo

[small thorn]

Ty so much

What are some keycap sets you like besides topographic?

[tropic urchin]

GMK/PBTfans if they have a cool theme

[trail bane]

GMK🇩🇪

[small thorn]

Could you send some pics?

[trail bane]

https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com/previous

[small thorn]

Some of them look great! But hey don't really fit with a black casing.

[tropic urchin]

GMK black and gold is prob one of my favorite black case sets

when you use the keycaplendar you have to go to the previous sets and scour through a bunch

or use it to see if theres any current group buys you're interested in

[small thorn]

Do they have good quality?

[trail bane]

I would say mediocre, but they’re pretty budget so

[small thorn]

What quality do they have compared to the normal black one that come with Wooting Keyboards?

This on looks so good! Topographic keys for the special keys and black ones for the normal ones.

[polar girder]

Dang

Yeah so tempted

[tropic urchin]

im not a big fan of standard black builds anymore, but GMK black and gold is a personal favorite of mine for that build. also has some cool poker novelties as well

makes me mad i didnt make one but its fine

[calm pulsar]

black and gold seems nice yeah, the gold plastic has a nice texture

[little glen]

astraeus got cancelled

no purple sets for me

[small thorn]

Found these from deskr but they are sold out.

[fresh kayak]

What stabs are decent for the 80HE? Been looking at either Durock v3 or Swagkeys Knight v3 or v4.
Can't seem to get Knight at the moment and the only place in the EU that has them can't ship unless the order is £137.
Not sure if there's any others you'd recommend?

[tulip rapids]

they sound nice what switches did you use?

[fluid ravine]

Everything's the same
Rawhukies

I just added a foam sheet

[fluid ravine]

When it not a booting

[fluid ravine]

Only real people uses Rawhukies

[trail bane]

No one cares

Rawhuks solo

[fluid ravine]

[little glen]

🤝

Yes its the best switch no i would not recommend it

[untold wigeon]

geon carries

[fluid ravine]

I shall convert Rawhukies to Nixies wanna be today

[fluid ravine]

LMAOO

Cheaper than TTC POM still

[untold wigeon]

even though no warranty

[sonic sierra]

interesting...
http://en.ttc9.com/cy/dtl/Encsprodetail_1/Oman-1395083874681565184.html

[fluid ravine]

YIKB

[fresh kayak]

Thanks for the recommendation. Not sure if it makes a big difference but most of the work will be typing and coding and maybe a little gaming, rather than heavy gaming use.

[woven parrot]

Yo

What if I combine Jade pros spring with ice ultra switch )

Stonks

@sturdy osprey

Are Jade pros easy to press?

[little glen]

Anyone have any recommendations for a budget keeb? (ideally includes switches but keycaps not required) does not have to be HE, just needs to be ISO

It‘s for my brother, he needs something new but finding something decent with iso support for less than 150 euro seems annoying af

[woven parrot]

Sure

What’s budget

@little glen

Gimme like a range or number of budget please

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

[woven parrot]

Are we cooked

[tidal frigate]

What happend to him. 100% payed

[woven parrot]

We need to plan revolution

I need to save up my money

[tropic urchin]

“I tried TMR so you don’t have to 🤢”

[woven parrot]

For flux

[thorn zealot]

what layout

[woven parrot]

Make flux cheaper bro

[thorn zealot]

or does it matter

[woven parrot]

Aula f75 epomaker is goated

In my country it’s rlly cheap

[woven parrot]

He’s not responding btw

[thorn zealot]

he doesnt have to respond in t-2 secs

[little glen]

ISO

[woven parrot]

Oh

What budget?

[little glen]

I‘m not responding because you didnt read my message and spammed me in dms instead of keeping it here.

[thorn zealot]

mb i meant like format

[tropic urchin]

But only T-3 secs ☝️ 🤓

[thorn zealot]

like 60, tkl, etc

[woven parrot]

I like the color ngl but you might need to change the swifxhss

Switches

[woven parrot]

I did not read my bad

Alr lemme remove that rq

So bascially what is he using for

[little glen]

Dont think it matters that much but arrow keys and f row are probably a plus

[woven parrot]

If gaming get wooting 60he in my country it’s 135

Or apex pro til

Tkl*

[woven parrot]

Does he want Hall effect btw

[chilly mural]

0.1ms faster than 80he... while 80he have none of the '0.001mm actuation'. Yeah it's not worth other than the wireless.

[woven parrot]

We not gonna notice the 0.00001 anyway

[little glen]

Doesnt matter

[woven parrot]

Alr so drunkdeer or apex pro tkl ig they both fit in your price range

One is 83

And it comes without keycaps

So you can mod it

https://share.google/FkDBk9BmRsRnY7xym

https://share.google/JLYGx5BmctgOxWLEC

[chilly mural]

@little glen kit Adam X. 64% with a numpad inclusion option, DIY. $100 for full kit (keycap and switches included)

[maiden hatch]

Hi. Is possible to change to some Silent Tactile switches (looking for some like membrane felling)? And what are the compatible with it?

[trail bane]

Tecsee gel something

[little glen]

Keycaps no need, he has caps

[woven parrot]

Does he want thock or cream

[trail bane]

TEC HE you can choose between kinda tactile rubber dome and linear.

[little glen]

He knows nothing about keyboards

[woven parrot]

Oh

[little glen]

He just wants something that works good and looks ok and can use his keycaps

[woven parrot]

What if he don’t like it and hits you

[fluid ravine]

Stabilizers are just stabilizers really. Honestly stock stabilizers on the 80HE are 100% fine. You give them a proper lube job then it should work sound and feel perfectly fine like any other well tuned stabs. Only difference between your moderate and newer gen stabs is that newer stabs are easier to tune. But again, once a stabilizers is tuned correctly, they will all perform the same.

[tropic urchin]

Mr froggy for mod ✅

[woven parrot]

👍

[little glen]

that one looks interesting for sure

[woven parrot]

Go

Yo*

Has anyone here tried the hater on jade rubys I really like the sound and would like to ask what sound type it is like clacks or creamy idk

I think they might be marble actually

Marbles

Marbly

[steady halo]

a friend of mine wants to switch from custom mech to custom HE,
are there any pcb that has 7u other than venom?

[fresh kayak]

I ordered the module and case so I think I'll need to order some separately. This is my first custom build so thought sod it, I'll go balls to the wall. I like the sound of those YIKB stabs. Just comparing them to TX and Everglide V3's at the moment.

[thorn zealot]

doesnt the module come with stabs

[fresh kayak]

Honestly I have no clue 🤷‍♂️

[thorn zealot]

just checked and it does

[fresh kayak]

Sweet, thank you for that. Appreciate it.

[thorn zealot]

👍

[tawdry tree]

That 64% ISO layout is criminal

[tawdry tree]

Like Lander said, Raeds or Tacsee Gel Pads would be very close to membrane.

[maiden hatch]

Something like that. Just to not be too loud

[woven parrot]

Yoo

[left cairn]

Can some1 tell me if the Glorious G-Lube is good for stabilizers? Cant find any info what kind of lube it is

[crude kayak]

does anybody uses the AEboards Raeds HE ? i have read that they are sit loosely in the pcb

[tropic urchin]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Not mine but last Raeds test ended up like this

[crude kayak]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message this is crazy

ok im not risking it

thank you for saving me 50€ haha

[tropic urchin]

Are you looking for HE tactile or just want a more quiet switch

[crude kayak]

i just saw a youtube video about them and i never tried topre switches so i wanted to give it a try

[tropic urchin]

Jade emeralds are releasing in a few days so might be worth keeping an eye out for

[tawdry tree]

It happens on the 60HE, not 80HE.

The Raeds are unique but not issue free haha

[crude kayak]

i have a 60he saddly

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, then I wouldn’t get the Raeds or Gel Pads.

[crude kayak]

are those topre clones too ?

[tawdry tree]

Just tactiles

similar to mech

[tropic urchin]

Gateron’s version of HE tactile

[crude kayak]

i will wait for the reviews but why not, everything is linear when it comes to HE it feels like so it's cool addition

[tropic urchin]

It should still have that unique bump feel so probably worth waiting for vs Raeds if you want decent performance

Didn’t sound too bad either

[crude kayak]

i wonder if wooting will ever make a tmr board so we can just mix Normal switches and HE

things got better we are not in the lekkers days no more but its still not as good as mechanicals

[tawdry tree]

Q3 2057

magmech is cool but kinda gimmicky imo

and requires a lot of PCB rea estate to be sacrificed

[calm pulsar]

true, would love to see an HE/TMR tech that feels like MX, but not sure if any manufacturers are interested in that

[crude kayak]

i dont think its interesting for wooting to do tmr

its more expensive its not that much faster, the energy argument doesnt make sens because their target audience is not the lifestyle i take my keyboard to work people

[tawdry tree]

the TMR sensors available for keyboard today are much slower according to RAKKA. The only real benefit they have is that they aren’t required to be mounted in the center, which creates space for hotswap sockets (for mag-mech) or just increased layout support.

[crude kayak]

the energy use part is pretty big for wireless keyboard too

[tawdry tree]

I’m not convinced on the energy part yet

as there are a lot more things on the PCB than just the sensors haha

even without considering the LEDs, I don’t think it’s that much of a benefit

[calm pulsar]

im loving custom TMR sticks in my controller, they feel more precise in inputs and smoother physically, but that might just be that they are manufactured better than stock ones

[crude kayak]

TMR is just the better tech

like it actually good tech

it just not worth

changing everything to it

[tidal frigate]

Tmr is technicly worse tech because it require constant recalibration to point 0

Also it takes more power than he

[crude kayak]

i need a source on this one

[tidal frigate]

Source Calder

[uneven cradle]

It's early days of TMR at the moment it doesn't make sense to change over to it

[chilly mural]

is tmr used on old soviet keyboard?

[calm pulsar]

just curious whether he actually said that or is it you coming up with things again

cause any TMR vs HE technology comparisons I see mention that TMR requires less power

[uneven cradle]

Calder did mention that to get TMR to be accurate it requires more power but I believe that was before he learned of using z axis or something idk was going over my head

[crude kayak]

https://cototechnology.com/library/appnote/from-hall-effect-to-tunneling-magnetoresistance-tmr.pdf

every single thing i read says the opposite

who ever said that is HARD lying

joystick or other applications every single time they say that tmr requires less power

[chilly mural]

hmm, do you have any paper from third party? I can't quite trust first party research

[tidal frigate]

Thats what he said during livestream. But i'am not sure who said it to him was it jeoren or some electrical enginner

[tropic urchin]

TMR is all you need at the end of the day

[fluid ravine]

Nah
Astrals

[chilly mural]

yesh

membrane is all you need

[tropic urchin]

you're right Astrals >> truthear hexa

[calm pulsar]

pen and paper all you need

[thorn zealot]

huh

[fluid ravine]

blood

[chilly mural]

the more I look at Astral and its price the more I go "why the fuck don't I just go top pro"

[tidal frigate]

Whos hating On truthear hexa

[tropic urchin]

If you dont want to spend alot, they're a nice set. But the Top Pros for me are just monsters for fit and detail

[thorn zealot]

nah thieaudio valhalla

[tropic urchin]

nah you cant say that, you gotta stick your middle finger in your ear canal first to guarantee fit

[calm pulsar]

wired airpods are perfectly fine tbh

[crude kayak]

every paper that i found is companies flexing that they are using tmr and now saddly

[chilly mural]

me want dat 2dd 8ba

[tropic urchin]

based

[tidal frigate]

Ngl finger test is good to know your iem nozzle size

[crude kayak]

just use your speakers if the music is good no one will care 🙂

[trail bane]

Fuck dorm fr

Gn y’all

[chilly mural]

still thinking about it, but it's def on the table, December last month for me to decide.

[tidal frigate]

What dorm

[trail bane]

Aka Bursa

[tropic urchin]

your tip game will need to be on point imo for what you like over others

i dont recommend just using the stock ones

[fluid ravine]

I NEED ASTRALS

[tropic urchin]

Azla sedna earfit lites are good, i am fucking with the wide bore velvets rn

[fluid ravine]

Oh varedis I'm set buying fiiO k11

[tidal frigate]

I already have my endgame iem and tips

[fluid ravine]

I have enough to buy but I want to sell my interface first

[tidal frigate]

Why k11

[thorn zealot]

👍

[fluid ravine]

Cus I'm broke and I got no knowledge

[tidal frigate]

K11 is a brick

[chilly mural]

it's alright, the more expensive the IEM the more I can justify buying different tips

[fluid ravine]

Any other rec

Around that price point

[tidal frigate]

Ka11, dongle dac i use it with my pc

[tropic urchin]

some sets are more tip dependent than others, but some tips can really bring out the sound better than others so I def recommend finding your personal favs

[tidal frigate]

But watchout with volume

[fluid ravine]

Eh tbh I don't wannat use a dongle dac