🔧│keyboard_modding

[glacial wind]

Which stabiliser is the stock one and which is knight v4

[peak breach]

Clearly the 2nd one

[crimson sky]

man 80HE spacebar does not sound good

[chilly mural]

the shift and the spacebar are the new one

[sacred elm]

Looks kinda familiar

Chilkey Slice68

[rocky folio]

what dimensions of o-rings do you guys recommend for bunger mount ?

[chilly mural]

centerpiece pro

[glacial wind]

@peak breach they’re all stock

just relubed

[chilly mural]

waow

[peak breach]

That was irony

[glacial wind]

it’s what I always say in that I think between just cases and key positions sounding different I don’t think people can tell the difference unless a stab is ticking

[fallen pecan]

@gaunt plume https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=970882364638 kailh jellyfish

[calm pulsar]

so you're saying I don't have to buy 3rd party stabs and tune them from the ground up to get good stabs? nonsense

[harsh dove]

I have the 80HE stabs in one of my mx boards I think lol

[plush stream]

Does anyone know any good clear or transparent keycaps? I have the Holy80 and I really want the LEDs to shine through.

[calm pulsar]

those are HE stabs you can't use them on MX!

[harsh dove]

Blasphemy

[tropic urchin]

Just like you can only use magnetic springs in HE switches, Wuque was secretly right all along!

[steady hinge]

someone have good link for keycaps for my wooting pls?

[sacred elm]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[steady hinge]

i dont see keycaps

[ruby hill]

Novelkeys
Cannonkeys
Geonworks
Swagkeys

[cyan lark]

Click link
Control+F
keycaps

Negative effort applied

[flat cobalt]

@obsidian dagger do you buy artisan keycaps?

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[obsidian dagger]

not really, that ones a bit abstract

i saw some where someone polished fossils that was sth

this i mightve bought

[crimson sky]

gotta say I have warmed up to raptor v2s somewhat

[sterile helm]

I'm thinking about buying a 60HE+, but I’d like to use it with a PT layout, or at least try, since it’s hard to find PT layout keycaps. I’d like to hear your opinion, should I go with ISO or ANSI layout?

[sacred elm]

ANSI superior layout

Big shift > small shift

[sterile helm]

what types of keycaps are compatible?
i’m new to this xD

[sacred elm]

Any MX stem keycaps will work on Wooting, so pretty much 99% of the keycap sets.

[sterile helm]

where i can find coiled cable

[sacred elm]

Wooting sells coiled cables

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable?Color=Stealth

[trail bane]

Copper gang

[peak breach]

Not enough colour options

[ionic breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiA3km0fMiU&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1DQQ%3D%3D

its out

@sacred elm

[sacred elm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tropic urchin]

Jade Airs won don’t watch it

[sacred elm]

[ionic breach]

spoilers

[manic hound]

When will people realize the best Hall effect switches were the friends we made along the way

[tropic urchin]

I was naughty and didn’t watch

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-kasane-music-video-meme-misinformation-gif-16155598018953884308

[ionic breach]

u have a budget?

wiredinstore.com makes really nice handcrafted ones

[glossy pagoda]

We've linked his affiliate link-filled vendor list hundreds of times in this discord, least he could have done was included Lekker switches

[tropic urchin]

I’m sure thockfather can have him update his video accordingly

[cyan lark]

He said he would in exchange for the BG service 👀

[sterile helm]

nope

[cyan lark]

Or maybe that was in my weirdly specific dreams

[cyan lark]

wooting.io sells nice coiled cables

(and I'm not even giving affiliate links!)

[ionic breach]

https://wiredinstore.com/

they have a lot of predesigned ones for inspo

or u can just get a custom one

[prime orbit]

Spark switch is actually good?

Crazy

[round sparrow]

those are cool and all but do they support tachyon mode?

[ionic breach]

admittedly its hit and miss with some of their cables, its an issue that got noticed a few months back

but most should be fine

my works perfect, (fast charging cable)

[peak breach]

gotta keep begging wooting for more colour options for their cables

[ionic breach]

just checked

avoid the 8core (braided) and silicone cables

[manic hound]

Are skylines really that good?

I think geon raws sounds the best still which is sad

Because not as thocky as like my beloved oil kings

[ionic breach]

its all preference

[polar girder]

My last one didn’t work with 8k polling FWIW

he talked about updating cables to new standard but idk if that happened or not

[uneven cradle]

Pretty sure it was sponsored by milktooth so only switches sold on their store were looked at

[reef lava]

has anyone tried the Gateron Magnetic Jade Air HE switches ?

owlab still considered better im guessing?

[trail bane]

I’ll say this, IHMO if you hear or see the phrase Gateron and HE without “spark” (at least for now), then it’s not worth paying attention to

[uneven cradle]

What about jade dragon or elf king

[calm pulsar]

jade pros and rubys got quite far in alexotos' tournament

still a decent switch, but ti he and rapters are cheaper anyways

[uneven cradle]

How do we know what the best switch is if Raeds weren't in the comp

[trail bane]

Cuz alex knows what awaits those who mention or start recommending Raeds

[rigid obsidian]

Is there anything I need to do after I install new aftermarket switches on my wooting? Calibration etc?

[calm pulsar]

the board calibrates itself, so no big changes needed, unless you want to adjust the actuation point if your switch is a different travel distance compared to the stock one, for example

[trail bane]

Auto calibration

[harsh dove]

Only 3 out of 5 of my cables from WiredIn aka Randall work with Tachyon mode/8K Polling, but he did make 8K polling specific cables after the issue was brought up, if getting a custom cable tho, I’d make sure to ask him about the connectors and shielding and if it’ll be 8K polling compatible

[limpid summit]

Best switch for tac fps? Going to order a 80he just need some advice

[uneven cradle]

They all pretty much perform the same the differences are mainly going to be in feel/sound which is pretty subjective

But if you look at #🪛│modding_faq recommendation list that's a good start

[limpid summit]

Might just wait for the tikkens to release and then grab the 80he

[polar girder]

Oh really? Nice

I never got an update

[harsh dove]

Slacker

nah lol he probs just forgot/got busy idk

[polar girder]

Any update on El?

[harsh dove]

El?

[polar girder]

Yeah the charger stand thing

[harsh dove]

Oh I'm not sure tbh, haven't been keeping up to date recently

Doesn't look like it

[polar girder]

Right

Yeah I’m sad I don’t use my nice cable any more

It’s so sweet. But so useless now lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah my fave one from him I can't use on 8K boards

I can use it on MX or lower polling rate boards but not 8K

my beloved Nightcrawler

[polar girder]

Yeah big sad

[harsh dove]

[peak breach]

Wooting could swoop in

[night atlas]

Got a neo65 myself, does your backspace feel weird?

It doesn't feel or sound as condensed as my other ones. The stabs are tuned and lubed, but for some reason that key specifically sounds "cheap" . That's the best way I could put it

[peak breach]

But if they haven’t done so yet it’s probably not easy or profitable

[trail bane]

Gn

[gray furnace]

Hey guys I'm planning to 'upgrade' my existing 60he+ Module with Geon HE RAWs and was wondering what the best stabs are to go with them, I read a lot of people recommending screw in TX APs but I'm a little confused what specs I'd need since there's a long pole version and I'm using a UK ISO layout. Cheers!

[sacred elm]

You can still use Geon Raws with stock stabilizers without any issues. No need to swap them with third party stabilizers.

[gray furnace]

I did think that however I wondered if different stabs may be less rattly, I can't seem to tame the rattle very well on the stock stabs unless I overlube them

[fluid ravine]

I use split backspace so I don't really know what it sounds like for myself

[night atlas]

oh wth, i should be able to configure this right?

Might do this

[fluid ravine]

If you have the trimode pcb

[night atlas]

i doooo

[fluid ravine]

Alright then yeah

You're able to

[stoic ocean]

Yo guys what do you think about tofu tkl

[thorn zealot]

Decent

[river shore]

ayo to anyone whos got gummy o rings in their build

how tf are you gonna take it outta the case when you need to

[prime orbit]

Any recommendations on keyboard mats?

[fluid ravine]

Keebmat

[lunar sand]

hey my friends... been a little off but which are the best HE switches right now ?

Im still on RAWs and TTC KoMs on my HEs ... anything new ?

[lunar sand]

was looking at a GT60 pcb while the 60HEv2 doesn't launch 😄

[desert falcon]

has anyone tried all of them?

[fluid ravine]

Tikkens aren't out yet, but I can name two people that have basically tried most to all of them yes

Aligner and sno jed

I'm not gonna ping them

[desert falcon]

when will the tikkens release ?

[fluid ravine]

Prob Q4 this year

Before 60he v2 iirc

[desert falcon]

@tawdry tree @glacial wind which ones do you recommend?

[thorn zealot]

Either with my hands or pry it out with a screwdriver in one of the holes in the plate

[fluid ravine]

Noooo switch puller

No screw driver :(

[desert falcon]

i just did the jelly tape spacebar mod no more clanker sound🔥

[thorn zealot]

Oh yeah that too

So used to pogo pins in my agar

Where u can just grab the whole thing out with one hand

[desert falcon]

just use a hammer

[thorn zealot]

Ur right

[glacial wind]

Depends on what you want

Raptor v2 are a good all rounder if stability of stem is a priority

Owlab I think sounds nicer though if you enjoy a louder cleaner sound tone

And the sparks are my favourite if you just want to prioritise stability over everything else right now

But they’re also absurdly expensive

[polar wind]

Hello, i wanted to ask if This Channel is Only for modding or if i could ask too how some keycaps would fit on the Keyboard

[glacial wind]

Keycaps for under modding, you’re good

[polar wind]

Alright i wanted to ask if those Keycaps I Found which would fit better or if u guys have any recommendation

I have a black Setup btw

[glacial wind]

Up to you, both look fine honestly

[desert falcon]

Thanks for the response

i dont know what i want that's why i asked you 🤣

[desert falcon]

i like the left one

[chilly mural]

I go for the left one

[glacial wind]

I’m going to assume the “power switch buttons” that post service says is arriving today are not power switch buttons

[real rapids]

i saw em on amazon as well if u buy them please lmk how they feel (ping me if possible)

[glacial wind]

Maybe they’re the gateron care package

[polar wind]

Alr i will do that

[stray tiger]

@glacial wind The MMD C1's are a really decent mid-range switch and my current value leader at under $20 for 70 switches (not sure if price has changed). I didn't notice any stem sticking issues that Aligner noticed so maybe a different batch.

[glacial wind]

Alright nice. I’ll put in an order for them

Gateron care package just arrived, so I have enough sparks now to actually do a full keyboard

[calm pulsar]

I see they sent you some jade airs

did you have any experience with jade maxes before? I'm curious if these jade airs have the same sticking issue as maxes

[glacial wind]

I didn’t touch Jade max after the initial issues

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/garbage-trash-trashcan-treffer-volltreffer-gif-17929468763169981849

Orchids

[calm pulsar]

gateron "don't care" package

[calm pulsar]

will you be testing airs? would be cool if you could check the friction by pressing them at an angle and see if they are smooth or not

[glacial wind]

Yeah I will

[stray tiger]

Damn pretty quick. Glad they took care of you!

[glacial wind]

Yeah Austin was great, cheers

[old sapphire]

i feel like jade pros and sparks sound very similar

[tulip rapids]

what is the set on the right called?

[polar wind]

JSJT Ink Lotus Keycaps

[steady halo]

how are the orchids?

[old sapphire]

did anyone else jelly tape mod the enter key and shift keys?

[spiral crater]

quick question, if im switching out the plate on my wooting, do i have to pull out the switches and keycaps?

[desert falcon]

Yes

[narrow crypt]

anyone has tested the effect of o-rings on the wootting accuracy ?

[glacial wind]

It’s known to impact accuracy. Wooting auto calibration fixes that but it is technically still less accurate than not using orings

basically wooting software will detect when you use o rings and decrease the sensitivity so it doesn’t mess up the inputs

[glacial wind]

don't really like them. They sound/feel like a lot of generic box stems

[tawdry tree]

What do you have now and why would you like to change them out?

[tawdry tree]

They’re pretty stable and sound clean as well, deeper than most I’ve come across (except for the now discontinued Ice Maxes, the two are pretty similar overall). It’s possible they changed the top housing or stem to fix the sticking issue (would be fantastic if they did), but it might just be that lube isn’t as much in that area on yours.

Either way, we’ve recommended Raw HEs long after they the sticking issue was brought up so it’s not that big of a deal.

Most probably wouldn’t even notice it.

[tawdry tree]

Mine didn’t have friction like the Jade Maxes had but at bottom out, they feel like they’re catching on something. Besides that, not a very clean sound overall.

[little glen]

I need raw he v2s fr fr

[tawdry tree]

Raw HE V2s with full travel

I bought 200

[little glen]

That would be sick

Long spring too

[tawdry tree]

It’d be funny if he makes them open bottom

the reverse of the Raptors

😭

[little glen]

I liked the sound of og raws

I also need a new gen switch with sharp sound like the duhuks had

Without the weird top

[tawdry tree]

Tikkens with Duhuk bottoms

[little glen]

Let me try that

[narrow crypt]

just switched from owlab ti to raptor v2, the sound is so much better to my ears

[chilly mural]

Nice

[glacial wind]

okay so gateron sparks really do need spacers for stock stabs. At least with my sets of keycaps

3.2mm is a bit too short so the wobble issue without it on regular sized stabs is more noticable

[little glen]

duhkkens are p good i'd say

tikkuks?

idk

[tawdry tree]

Tihuks?

[little glen]

tihuks sounds like hybrid between ti and duhuks

[tawdry tree]

I hope so but I wonder how much of Tikken’s longer travel is due to the bottom housing and how much is due to its stem.

[tawdry tree]

true

[trail bane]

I hope tikkens will bring back chimeras back in meta

[tawdry tree]

For sure

Not a gain in stability probably but for sound I think they’ll be good

[little glen]

i think its mostly stem

[tawdry tree]

More so than regular Jades? Then the Sparks might be off by .2mm too..

[tawdry tree]

Probably but we’ve seen both already from Hejin.

[little glen]

duhuk bottom + tikken stem goes down deeper than raw stem + tikken bottom

[tawdry tree]

You got calipers?

Would be interested to know the stem length of Titons

[glacial wind]

how much is regular jades according to your calipers

[little glen]

i have eyes

[tawdry tree]

All Jades and variants are 3.3

Most*

[glacial wind]

yeah it's more so than regular jades because i have no wobble issues on jades in my 80he

[little glen]

keycap is a gmk esc

[tawdry tree]

Tikken stem with Duhuk bottom and stock Tikken seem to have the same travel?

If so, I think it’s save to say Tikken’s full travel is solely due to its stem.

[little glen]

cant wait for tikken to come out so i can make a whole board of this

[little glen]

im not gonna go back and rebuild the original

from memory its probably about the same

but again i dont have calipers or anything so whatev

[tawdry tree]

You’ve seen the light that is Tikkens X Duhuks already, I respect it.

[tawdry tree]

It’s alr

[little glen]

i just love the duhuk bottom what can i say

[glacial wind]

oh yeah even just physical eye test looking at the stems next to each other the gateron sparks are shorter visibly

*longer

[tawdry tree]

If you can tell the difference by eye, they must me significantly shorter for sure

[glacial wind]

yeah it's very visibly noticable

[little glen]

how are the sparks sound wise

i dont think ill get them but still interested

[glacial wind]

clean but very muted

needs a bright plate like cf or something to bring out the noise better

i need to get more used to them also because going between tikkens and these super short travel sparks is a big difference

[little glen]

yeah i bet

i need a real duhuk successor with the bottom sound

full travel

i didnt really like the raptors for that

[peak breach]

I like the sound of the raptors

Gotta try them of fr4 and cf

[glossy pagoda]

I just like the stock switch

[trail bane]

New fluxies on ali
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGscpQm

[chilly mural]

Still $2/pcs

@glacial wind when pink flux test

[trail bane]

1.9

[glacial wind]

Lol I saw those, I might buy a few just to test but man what an absurd pricing

They’re on aliexpress just recently

[uneven cradle]

You can be that second person to buy them

[tropic urchin]

I might email them to see if they fixed any of the glaring issues with the deep clack version

[glacial wind]

It feels so stupid that 35 switches is going to cost 73 dollars

[safe stag]

Can you explain the glaring issue ?

[glacial wind]

I can get them down to maybe 65 with discount code but still absurd for only 35 switches lol

After using sparks all day today I do find them pleasant overall but extremely muted

I think they’re a good pick for people with loads of spending budget and who want muted but not silent switches

[safe stag]

The rgb is orange through them ?

[glacial wind]

It’s tinted yep, and the cover is cloudy over the light hole so it’s even less bright

It’s why sander sent his over so fast because he hated that it basically cut his rgb down a lot

[chilly mural]

Maketing strat

[tropic urchin]

Not fully demagnetized springs and too strong magnet

[chilly mural]

Pepo rebuy the rgb ver

[safe stag]

Ah
Changing springs does solve the issue ?

If you can because it looks like the magnet is large

[tropic urchin]

I think they have a unique spring given their octagonal stem design, but I haven’t tried tbh

I personally haven’t felt any issues with my normal fluxies, but would be cool if they gave us the flux they advertised

[glacial wind]

For example this is gateron sparks at 100% rgb

This is tikkens next

[safe stag]

Considering the price

[safe stag]

Remembers me my tangerines

[glacial wind]

Sparks really tint everything plus make it much less bright

[trail bane]

Maybe you should buy them from their website it should be cheaper

[tropic urchin]

We really can’t have shit these days for switches can we, nothings perfect

[ruby hill]

Raptor v2 perfect

[tropic urchin]

The only thing keeping it from perfection is the inconsistent spring crunch on W/S keys, but other than that yes

[safe stag]

Buying new HE switches is just gambling at this point

[tropic urchin]

Raptors: weird spring crunch, owlab: mid bottom wobble, flux: price, magnet and not demagnetize spring, any Gateron switches: made by Gateron, everything has a flaw in one way or another

[glacial wind]

honestly the raptors spring crunch i think doesn't matter much because you can just swap the switch out. It shouldn't happen and they need to fix it, but it's not a major issue if you get one or two in a 90 pack that do that

[tropic urchin]

It’s not a widespread issue, but it’s only there on my W/S keys, everywhere else is fine

But still annoying I have to use flux WASD to get around it 🥀

[glacial wind]

you didn't get extras?

[safe stag]

Gateron at least you know you never gonna end up with a terrible switch, but also it will never be the switch of the year

[ionic breach]

sno my lil sister bought a sony camera and a sigma prime lens 30mm for her first

lol

[tropic urchin]

I do, but it happens no matter how many times I swap it

[glacial wind]

another happy sony customers

[tropic urchin]

With or without TTC spring

[glacial wind]

that's very weird. Is this on your wooting?

[tropic urchin]

Jade maxes send their regards

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[glacial wind]

just the location causes it? I've never seen that before

[safe stag]

There is always a middle child

[tropic urchin]

It doesn’t always happen, but it only happens using heavy movement keys where you’re continuously pressing W and bottoming out to move forwards or a little backwards

[glacial wind]

i think bigger thing with the raptors is that the sound profile isn't great for average person in comparison to other options

[tropic urchin]

It’ll be rock solid on bottom out and then over time it’ll have the weird spring crunch and feel lil wobbly

[glacial wind]

it's kind of an odd tone that's a bit flat? i guess would be the word i'd use

[tropic urchin]

It’s “thocky”

[ionic breach]

even after lubing urself?

[glacial wind]

it feels like i can't call them clack nor thocky, it's like neither side

[quasi hinge]

Pom pom pom

[glacial wind]

are you in cf plate still?

i never noticed any issue on my 80he with cf plate raptors

i wonder if more flexible plate affects it more

[tropic urchin]

and then for Pom you have shitty red top housing and bad sound with not great top wobble due to large box

[tropic urchin]

Alu

[glacial wind]

weird alu should be quite stiff

[quasi hinge]

When you are in love, you accept all the imperfections

[tropic urchin]

It is, but yeah it doesn’t always happen, but when it does it’s usually bottoming out W it occurs every so often, it’s a weird feeling

[safe stag]

I would rather have ugly switches that tinted dimmed rgb

[glacial wind]

The sparks are so muted that I’m having to adjust to just the sound being so soft

At least it’s a clean sound

[tropic urchin]

With POM you can have both

[glacial wind]

But very muted

[quasi hinge]

Dimmed rgb for me doesnt matter, I play in the abyss

[safe stag]

Pom have normal rgb

At least wooting ones

[manic hound]

In your opinion what’s the best sounding Hall effect switch

Currently

[glossy pagoda]

Tikkens clear

(I'm paid to say thi)

[quasi hinge]

It can depend on what type of plate you are using, and if you do mods etc

Im running POM switches on a CF plate

[glacial wind]

totally depends on what sound profile you want really

[quasi hinge]

Hat tip to sno

[glacial wind]

i usually rate based on clean sound, then after that it's up to the person to pick what sound profile they like

you can have clean sound in lots of different profiles

as long as it's not chattery like old HE switches or the polar pro split stems

[tropic urchin]

Only if we get T45 tikkens

[desert falcon]

i dont really get it idc about the sound just the feeling i play with anc so i dont really hear my keyboard

like whats the point?

[glacial wind]

different strokes for different folks. Some folks care a lot, some don't.

[desert falcon]

i do make a good point though i just want a good feeling switch most of them are same im still using the lekkers 2.0.

i just think im gonna get lube to make them feel silky smooth

[glacial wind]

if you like lekker 2.0 you'll like tikkens i assume

a bit less wobble, overall smoother with less stem movement

[manic hound]

How about clean/thocky

“Thocky” because none really sound thocky lol

[ruby hill]

Flex thocky pink version

[glacial wind]

depends on the tone you want. Tikkens are a slightly deeper clack, sparks are a very muted clack, owlab is just bright clack

[safe stag]

Is it possible to write the smoothness of the switches here and on the website wootingmods

[glacial wind]

raptors are kind of in middle of tikkens and owlab, i find it a bit flat honestly but i haven't experimented with more plates

[manic hound]

Well can’t buy tikkens rn, so just curious what would suffice until then

GEON raws?

[glacial wind]

smoothness depends on the person so i can't really include it fully, requires more explanation too

it's already bordering on too much info for a 'cheat sheet' but the full blog i have written goes into more depth a little bit mentioning smoothness

[ruby hill]

What is the diff between Tec he and raeds he? I thought they are recolor variant

[ionic breach]

u bought ur wooting yet?

[glacial wind]

gel pad, they're different internally

same structure but there's slight change there

[manic hound]

Still trying to nail down keycaps and switches

[ionic breach]

yea then raws

[manic hound]

Keep going back and forth between zinc and white

[ionic breach]

considering shipping

[glacial wind]

raws are fine honestly sound wise

[manic hound]

Yeah Isint some stupid minimis thing ending in a few days?

[ionic breach]

eh who knows

that dude does stuff, i gave up trying to follow

[manic hound]

Idk I’ve heard grumblings from some Chinese sellers but who knows I’m with you on that lol

[glacial wind]

@safe stag also wooting mods isn't updated anymore as I'm transitioning it all to wootings websites. They're running into some time issues right now with making a guide template for the site due to time constraints with our various projects, so i'll probably be making them online as blogs temporarily until we have the full guide template ready

[tropic urchin]

If you want RAWs and you’re in the US order off divinikey

Ships from CA and they have 50g stock atm

[manic hound]

Well I think wootings price is better rn?

[ionic breach]

or from wooting

depends on shipping realistically

[glacial wind]

yeah he might find them cheaper if he's ordering a wooting already depending on what divinikey is charging since he gets discount on the switches

the bundle pricing for switches + module is quite nice

[desert falcon]

im gonna wait till they drop

[manic hound]

Does wooting charge tarriff “shipping” increases

Or just like regular shipping to US

[ionic breach]

i cannot wait more for knobs

[glacial wind]

wooting stocks locally in US, but that's for existing stock. We don't know what tariff and fees will happen with this administration

[manic hound]

For sure

[glacial wind]

so if you want a wooting i'd order soon on current stock/pricing because it could go up if tariff etc go up

[ionic breach]

^

they ship internally from vegas

[glacial wind]

calder has said that we're basically going to be passing the cost on because it's too much to absorb

so pricing can change over time depending on what happens

[round sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-gay-rainbow-lgbt-pride-month-gif-6443547037069682625

[manic hound]

Yeah I imagine wootings price would increase, not sure any small business would just eat the cost

[ionic breach]

[round sparrow]

Jkjk

I know how u feel

Even the v2 could be so far away

[manic hound]

I love the idea for a split space bar but I need those arrow keys

[round sparrow]

Since the ow60 doesnt supoort splitspacebar im not even considering it

[glacial wind]

i will say as someone who had to test it out all day on the new league of legends. Split spacebar is the way forward, especially for some games that need constant wasd controls

[glacial wind]

you can friction fit the whole v2 module into the ow60 just fyi

it only doesn't function if you want the owlab cf plate mount specifically

i hope we bring split spacebar to 80he honestly because i need my f keys for some games. Depends on how things go though

[round sparrow]

What games do you need it on

[manic hound]

I currently have a split spacebar and thumb clusters on my dygma and it is indeed nicer than a full spacebar

[glacial wind]

league uses f keys a lot for camera controls

[round sparrow]

Split spacebar i mean

[glacial wind]

oh split if you go test out the new wasd controls for league it becomes immediately an issue to not have more thumb keys

split spacebar really helps there because you need the ability keys and summoner spells bound to something that you can press without lifting off wasd

[round sparrow]

Im only considering split for the placement of the knob on a 60

[manic hound]

Also something I’ve noticed, if you use the desktop site and build the wooting with module / switches / case you get the small discount vs. the mobile site doesn’t show the discount

Not sure if anyone else has noticed, not a big deal just weird bug

[glacial wind]

it'll show up on checkout page before you pay

sometimes the cookies for the site get a bit weird i've found

so it doesn't show the discounted bundle price until you get to the later page

but yeah we're aware of that weirdness and have been trying to bugfix it as far as I know

[manic hound]

Gotcha

[noble turret]

Just bought the Wooting 80HE and got some Gateron Jade pro switches elsewhere since I couldn’t find them in your builder app, I assume they’ll work just fine right?

[tropic urchin]

They’ll be a little outdated in terms of stem wobble in today’s switch offerings, but they will work fine

[noble turret]

Thanks! Any clue on good key cap sets that are also sold in Spanish ISO? I’ve found very limited offering unfortunately

[tropic urchin]

Check here for your region, but ISO specific key caps will be limited in your customization unfortunately: https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

When I looked for ISO CHF for someone, that was super limited so I’d imagine it would be a similar experience

[noble turret]

Thanks friend!

Which would be the best switches for the 80HE for nice sound and feel? I’ve been watching keyboard channels for a year before pulling the plug on the 80HE with the jade pros

[tropic urchin]

Probably would be between raptor V2s and owlabs currently

If you’re not chasing max stem wobble, a lot of folks love the ti he

For a brighter clack

Will be cheaper than Jade pros as well

[noble turret]

Man someone should sell a bag with a couple of switches selection from each brand

Already bought them and had them shipped lol so I’ll defo try them out I guess

[tropic urchin]

I still have mine sitting in my mod box

[noble turret]

Need to be able to build the 80HE fine and all, first keyboard I’ll build

[glacial wind]

Jade pros are still good so I wouldn’t worry bout it

[noble turret]

Haha if someone sold a bag with 3 switches of each type I’d defo had bought it

Would be great for noobs like myself

But super excited to get it all and build it

[glacial wind]

Honestly I think a lot of folks wouldn’t feel the difference from jade pro to owlab ti he anyway

It’s very small

[noble turret]

I assume latency wise they’re all the same?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[noble turret]

Thanks 🙂

[manic hound]

I guess the GEON raws have dropped off the list haha

[noble turret]

And sorry to be a pest but the alternative cases for the 80HE aside from the zinc are the kbdfans 80gp and holy no?

[tropic urchin]

GT80, Bone80 and holy80 iirc

[noble turret]

Omg

That bone one is gorgeous

[tropic urchin]

If you plan on doing future mods I think the GT80 case is miles ahead of the zinc (case screws are a huge pain), but sound wise they are comparable with slight differences

[tropic urchin]

You can find it on aliexpress if you want it

[noble turret]

Yes I got the custom 80HE module with the ghost plastic grey to upgrade to a metal one eventually

[sacred elm]

They're still fine

[noble turret]

It was a tough explanation to the wife the purchase of an expensive keyboard so thought I’d break the news bit by bit

[tropic urchin]

Luckily for you GMK keycaps don’t have iso Spanish option

Otherwise we might not hear from you again

[glacial wind]

i can't decide how i feel about 3.2mm travel on these sparks

it's quite short feeling

[manic hound]

Damn hearing another sound test of these akkos astrolinks got me thinking again

Pleasant

[glacial wind]

i wouldn't spend too much time listening to sound tests honestly, unless it's a specific comparison in the same video/recording in same mic/computer etc

without a frame of reference you can't tell if it's just the mic making the sound that you like or the switch

that's why one video will make you think this switch is amazing, but you'll find another video of the same switch and think it doesn't sound great

so cross comparing between 2 different people is often not useful at all

[manic hound]

Yeah you aren’t wrong, I may just try em out and see. Seems to be highly rated amongst a lot of people

[polar girder]

Hey guys guess what

[manic hound]

Nice sale on Amazon

[polar girder]

It’s my birthday today

[glacial wind]

happy birthday, i hope you get a sony lens

[noble turret]

Happy birthday!

[noble turret]

Yes man you already got me planning what should I do when I change switches on the future lol

[sterile helm]

https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005008846403158.html?channel=twinner

can someone tell me if these keycaps fit the 80he?

[sacred elm]

Raptors are here

[sterile helm]

?

[polar girder]

Hype

[polar girder]

HIS RAPTORS HAVE ARRIVED

[polar girder]

lol maybe one day

[polar girder]

Hey thanks

[sacred elm]

Their stability is impressive, barely any top wobble and very little bottom wobble.

Also I can't feel the friction at all @tawdry tree I'm gonna spring swap them with TTC springs now, since they're hand lubed

[tawdry tree]

You hear the friction tho, right?

[tawdry tree]

Raptors are a recolor of those so get whichever is cheaper honestly.

V2s*

[sacred elm]

No, maybe I'm deaf.

[glacial wind]

you have to specifically push kind of sideways as you push down and put ear close to it

then you can hear the sound

[sacred elm]

Yeah, I'm not doing that

[glacial wind]

yeah it's overall not really a thing i think people would notice in normal usage

[tawdry tree]

kinda feel bad for criticizing astros so hard lmao

expected people to notice it more ig

[sacred elm]

Ali $1 opener btw, Raptors aren't getting stuck for me

[tawdry tree]

it was a skill issue ofc

[tropic urchin]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tawdry tree]

😭😭

my criticism of raptors is valid

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[tawdry tree]

geon should’ve improved when he said he was gonna

🥀

[tropic urchin]

My only real criticism is that weird spring crunch when you’re pressing W/S, genuinely feel no other shii

[glacial wind]

yeah the only thing i've seen that would be noticable is the spring crunch thing

i haven't been able to see that happen to any of mine though

[tropic urchin]

It’s not even consistent too which is the real wtf moment

Might just be how it’s designed and not a spring thing since it also happens with TTC springs

[glacial wind]

honestly if i were using any of these new spring switches i'd hand lube them though

they all have spring ping in some units

[tawdry tree]

yeah, it could be that the springs have too little space

oh that might be it actually

[tropic urchin]

😭

[glacial wind]

the actual lube is fine though, but the lube on springs would be something i'd do for all of these long spring switches

[tropic urchin]

Might just use W/S flux and AD raptor

[glacial wind]

although i haven't heard any spring ping on the sparks

but gateron has always been pretty decent with springs. Them and ttc at least seem to get springs done well, although maybe they lubed the internal stem so much that it got on the springs as well lol

the sparks are almost dripping

[tropic urchin]

You think it could go away with time or permanent feature

https://tenor.com/view/moist-moisture-meter-wet-gif-22355893

[tidal frigate]

Sno do you think now ow60 would sell in less than a 3hrs in 2nd batch?

[glacial wind]

well it's a large batch so i doubt it, but who knows

[tidal frigate]

So it is more than before?

Because 1st batch was already big

[glacial wind]

okay i double checked the gateron spark springs. They are moist lol

i can feel the lube on my hands after holding it, that's why they don't seem to ping

[glacial wind]

first batch was tiny

[tidal frigate]

400 keyboard cases is Tiny?

[glacial wind]

yeah that's a tiny amount of keyboards for a batch

[tidal frigate]

I didnt know

K

[glacial wind]

was it 200 ansi 200 iso? i forget

[tidal frigate]

Well also batch was only eu only

[tidal frigate]

It wasnt been shared

If it was, i already would knew

[glacial wind]

i never looked into it, I just remember the number given was 200, so where did you get 400?

[tidal frigate]

Because they said to me 400 pcs

200 black 200 beige

[glacial wind]

where did you see that?

[tidal frigate]

General

[glacial wind]

i recall it as 200 of both total

[tidal frigate]

Check heidi messages

Because heidi said it to me

[glacial wind]

she said 200 in total lol

[tawdry tree]

Eh

[glacial wind]

you're misremembering

[tawdry tree]

It seems like Raptor’s springs are too big

too big of a diameter

[tidal frigate]

I definetly remember saying it is 200 per colour

[glacial wind]

yeah it's 200 units, i just checked all the previous marketing for it

so yeah first batch was tiny

[tidal frigate]

Ok my bad

[tropic urchin]

Maybe time to go spring hunting

[tidal frigate]

Always we can check with mark

[glacial wind]

just throw your ttc springs in them honestly

[little glen]

Crazy how 200 people bought a 400 dollar case like its nothing and there‘s still demand

[tropic urchin]

I might do that for others but had same issues with W bottom out

[little glen]

[tropic urchin]

Maybe swap them all and hand lube

And shuffle them around

[glacial wind]

i picked a black unit i think for mine

only because i didn't want to change keycaps to match the beige one

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind also now we would have na batch

And eu one

[glacial wind]

this batch is much bigger than last batch so i'd be surprised if people don't all get a chance to buy it as long as you're there during the launch timing

[tidal frigate]

Or wooting cancel completly na batch due to tarrifs

600€ ow60 case in na

[glossy pagoda]

First batch was 200 units, second batch was 800 units

In stock sales will start on the 2nd of September for both US and EU/ROW

[glacial wind]

oh did we announce that already, i wasn't sure

[glossy pagoda]

The qty has been mentioned in Youtube videos, that's not new info

I don't think the sales date has been officially announced yet, but we're so close that I might as well 😛

[tawdry tree]

Are the issues confirmed to be fixed?

[tidal frigate]

They werent annouced at all

[tawdry tree]

Or still just the word of Owlab that they checked more thoroughly this time? 😭

[glossy pagoda]

Not my department 😛

[polar girder]

Will v2 have gummy o-ring mount cutouts?

[glacial wind]

my job is league of legends person this week so i don't know anything outside of that

[tidal frigate]

I hope so there wouldnt be more variants of cutouts

[tawdry tree]

Whose department is it?

[tidal frigate]

He is doing shipment stuff

[tawdry tree]

That’d increase the PCB manufacturing time, and thus cost………

🥀

[glacial wind]

Not as far as I know. It already comes with a friction mount

[tidal frigate]

@tawdry tree I mean i think it should be quality checker job

But i dont think so hes on discord

[tawdry tree]

Not sure if Woot has that

[tidal frigate]

They hired one

[tawdry tree]

it’d be nice if they opened some up and checked them to see if the issues were in fact resolved

[tawdry tree]

🤔

[tidal frigate]

While 80he had issues

[glacial wind]

you may apply to be another one if you want: https://wooting.io/careers/quality-engineer-full-time-taiwan

[tawdry tree]

Okay, the springs in the Astros and Raptors have the exact same dimensions but I have no clue why Raptors’ springs are collapsing (don’t know the exact word for it).

Raptors’ springs slip over the coils below it, so to say.

And that’s what you can hear and feel.

[polar girder]

Right

[polar girder]

Gross

[cyan lark]

Seems like a failure to have a hard stop just before the spring is fully compressed

Sounds unpleasant

[manic hound]

Astrolinks baby

[sacred elm]

Raptor v2 factory lube

[spare stirrup]

Do I need to scrape off the "paint" if I want to ground a gummy O-ring mounted 60HE in a anodized Tofu Redux ? Also, does anyone know where I can buy conductive sponge in the EU, preferably in Poland?

[tropic urchin]

NSFW marking pls

[tropic urchin]

Would TX springs fix said issue or wrong dimension

[tawdry tree]

Wrong dimension sadly

The only springs with the same dimensions I know of are TTC’s

[tawdry tree]

You’d need to scrape the anodized layer off below were you place the conductive foam piece, yeah. You can get them off of AliExpress, not too expensive.

[tropic urchin]

That’s so weird bc I have same issue with TTC springs……..

You know what

I’ll just spring swap all of them

And pick each switch out of a hat surely

[tawdry tree]

If you have crunch with TTC’s springs too, then it’s just switch design.

Maybe they’d need even smaller springs or something

smaller diameter

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6561088576429774594

[tawdry tree]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJ2z6ZY

[manic hound]

Do yall remove excess lube from factory before relubing

[sacred elm]

No, also I'm not relubing, just swapping spring

[manic hound]

But say you were

Would you wipe that ish off and get a more even coat on the switch

[sacred elm]

Nah

It's fine

[tawdry tree]

Depends. Some manufacturers lube their switches with straight up oil instead of thicker lube, so I’d wipe that off if you relube.

Cause you don’t want the new lube to slide over the old lube

[spare stirrup]

Wouldn't the usb port alignment screw work for grounding?

Placing the sponge on top of it to be exact

[tawdry tree]

It would but you can’t place a conductive foam piece on top of a screw that is on top of a standoff.

It’d have to be a screw in place of one of the removable standoffs if that makes sense.

It’s a good idea honestly, better than scraping the case.

I don’t remember if the removable standoffs on the Redux used M2 holes as well.

They probably do.

[spare stirrup]

I was talking about that specific screw

[abstract lantern]

Can someone recommend me a upgrade for stabs and a case with better feel than the PCR plastic version?

[dapper hazel]

seond time I heard this in the last few month... weird

you go with the original made by a hobbyist for hobbyists and not with the knockoffs ;)

[tropic urchin]

Never tried it before so it was interesting

[cedar gate]

Hey guys I was doing the wooting initialization and canceled it half way through . Now my Wooting won't turn on. I've tried unplugging and replugging and shutting down the computer neither worked

[cedar gate]

Swagkey knight v3s and tofu 60 redux are good

[glacial wind]

v2 aren't sold anymore

unless he finds old stock somewhere

[cedar gate]

Lol I'm getting outdated

[cedar gate]

BTW when I plug it in it is labeled as wooting restore anyone know what that means?

[tawdry tree]

Oh, that might work too but I don’t remember if the screw was recessed. If it is, the conductive foam isn’t gonna touch it, so it wouldn’t work.

[sacred elm]

You need to restore it

[cedar gate]

It won't connect to wootility

It won't show up in the list of HID devices

[tawdry tree]

o7

[sacred elm]

When you press "Reset Device" Wooting Restore doesn't show up in HID devices?

Do you have another PC or a laptop to restore your keyboard there? If not try this https://help.wooting.io/article/173-how-to-flush-all-dead-registry-entries

[cedar gate]

I tried that but it won't show up in any computer

When i press initialize new device in wootility it doesn't show up but wooting restore does show up in windows settings

I really hope I didn't blow the PCB

Or actually I don't think I did since wooting restore does show in win settings

[sacred elm]

You don't have to press "Initialise a device".

Click "Try out Wootility" then Help > 60HE and "Reset Device", Wooting Restore then should pop up in HID devices.

[cedar gate]

ITS WORKING

[sacred elm]

Nice 👍

[cedar gate]

nvm

[sacred elm]

Your browser doesn't have enough permissions. If you are using Chrome go in Settings > Privacy and security > Site settings > Additional permissions > HID devices > Default behavior and choose "Sites can ask to connect to HID devices"

Alternatively, you can use the desktop Wootility App (https://wooting.io/wootility) instead of the browser version.

[tropic urchin]

If you’re using Firefox or non chromium browser you’ll need to use chrome/edge for it to work

Ik my benom didn’t show up until I swapped to edge

Hopefully that fixes it 🙏🏻

[calm pulsar]

bro got edged by geon

[tropic urchin]

No that’s my sad W key raptor noises

[polar girder]

Yeah I only use edge tbh

Can’t catch me downloading other browsers

[cedar gate]

All of the permissions are allowed tho

It just won't show up in HID devices no matter what I do but it is connected to the computer because it does have wooting restore in settings

[sacred elm]

Try with Wootility app, if it still doesn't show up then contact Wooting https://wooting.io/support

[cedar gate]

yep didnt work

contacting wootility thx for the help tho

[sacred elm]

Seems like it's stuck in Restore mode. You can try this while waiting for their response.

https://help.wooting.io/article/210-fix-right-side-of-60he-not-working

[cedar gate]

does blue tape work

[sacred elm]

Electrical tape if available, if not then any tape is fine.

[sacred elm]

If you have transparent tape use that

[cedar gate]

so paperback is a no go?

[sacred elm]

Try it, should be fine

[cedar gate]

Gotta be honest was not expecting that to work but were back online 👍 👍 👍

Tysm for all the help

[sacred elm]

[leaden cedar]

Has anyone tried ceramic (cerakey in this case) Keycaps with a Wooting/HE keyboard?
How does it affect how it feels to push down a switch?
Does the added weight of the ceramic do anything with the switch?

[humble surge]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[leaden cedar]

@jolly inlet

[trail bane]

Gn

[uneven cradle]

Youll need heavier springs for the spacebar

[leaden cedar]

just the spacebar?

[uneven cradle]

I believe so

70-100 grams spring weight

For spacebar

Probably also wouldn't go lighter then 60 for other modifiers

[latent kraken]

anyone tried spring swapping the raptor V2 yet?

[sacred elm]

Yes, I spring swapped them with TTC springs

You can only swap stock Raptor v2 springs with TTC, if you have their switches. Other springs aren't compatible, because of the bigger diameter.

[latent kraken]

do you have the spring diameter handy?

[sacred elm]

TTC/Raptor v2 springs have a 5.8mm diameter

Other springs 6.1mm

[latent kraken]

thanks for the info 🙏

[latent kraken]

that diameter applies to most or all TTC switches?

[sacred elm]

TTC KOM

Not sure about Elf Kings and their other switches

[tulip rapids]

tikken that good huh?

i thought raptors were having issues

[sacred elm]

They're fine. I noticed spring crunch only on one switch, rotating spring helped.

[latent kraken]

I saw that too and I thought "how the hell do they have an opinion when it's not out yet" 😅

unless?

[tulip rapids]

the person who makes the chart is from a wooting team member

[latent kraken]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[sacred elm]

Sno has tried them

[tulip rapids]

sno is a reliable person

[tulip rapids]

where did you get yours from ali express?

[sacred elm]

Divinikey, they're out of stock now

[tulip rapids]

hmmmm interesting

https://tenor.com/view/batman-hmm-rpx-syria-gif-19045009

[latent kraken]

I'm already having issues fat fingering with the lekker V2s so I want a much higher starting force but nobody makes those switches or springs 😭

[tulip rapids]

is there any sound difference and feel from tikkens or basically the same switch as owlabs?

[sacred elm]

Maybe wait for Lekker Tikkens instead? Raptor v2s have light springs

Tikken springs are 55g

[tulip rapids]

have they let you test out the tikkens yet shf?

[latent kraken]

starting or bottom out?

[sacred elm]

No

[tulip rapids]

one day homie one day ✊

[sacred elm]

Bottom out, so 5g lighter than L60v2

At least you can spring swap them with other springs

[tropic urchin]

@tawdry tree wooooah it just clicks when you press on stem directly

[sacred elm]

With Raptors your only option is TTC KOM springs

[latent kraken]

ohhhhh, they use standard springs

🔥

well, more standard at least

[sacred elm]

Yeah, Tikken springs will have 6.1mm diameter

[latent kraken]

same as the wooting switch pack?

[calm pulsar]

why not just reduce actuation point
if you're fatfingering keys I feel like you'd need insanely strong springs to prevent accidental inputs lol

[sacred elm]

Yes

[latent kraken]

I still want the benefit of tight actuation points tho :/

skill issue 🫠

[calm pulsar]

if you have 0.1mm actuation point, I imagine you'd need a 1kg spring to prevent fatfingering it

maybe a diff keycap profile would help

[latent kraken]

my actuation point is actually at 1.8mm 💀

[warm cape]

i changed from the white switch plate to the black one available on wooting store

so i took off all my switches, but now my switch key is getting physically stuck (the key cap itself) sometimes in the down position

i already lubed the stabilizers from the top, what else coould be causing it?

it wasnt doing it before i changed switch plates

[tulip rapids]

me pulling up to buy those tikken switches

[tulip rapids]

@tropic urchin rate the drip

[tropic urchin]

Damn Goku extra hairy

[tulip rapids]

sounds like you're not open minded

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

[tropic urchin]

True, that’s how you get mentally hacked

[cyan lark]

That gif is horrifying

Keyboards are cool, though.

[tulip rapids]

any chance you live alone?

why dont you put your number in my IPHONE 16 PRO MAX

[tulip rapids]

let me show you the Hongdae way

[cyan lark]

Are you making an advance?

😊

[lyric nimbus]

my university machining shop isn't open yet :(

[calm pulsar]

from the reels I saw hongdae guy doesn't even care if they have a partner or not, he still makes his move

[robust girder]

has anyone here used jade pros and akko astrolink? do they sound/feel similar? trying to decide whether or not i want to get astrolinks over my jade pros

[glacial wind]

astrolinks are tighter wobble, jade pros i think sound a tad nicer (but sound is preference)

[glacial wind]

Hrm my fed ex driver might be confused

[calm pulsar]

guy is driving around netherlands while you're in korea

[glacial wind]

he must be looking for the city seoul in netherlands

hrm i can't decide what to put in my top 3 for RGB switches. I guess I just put the most stable between ugaming gt and newer ttc rgbs, either ur ice ultra or mmd c1 for a good all-rounder regular stem pick, and maybe phylina thunderflash for another slightly different stem pick

i need to do sound test between ugaming gt and ttc rgb new one though to decide what is cleaner

[robust girder]

okay so basically pointless to purchase them. or do they have the classic hmx clack? because thats what i really want from an HE switch is the insane clackiness of an HMX

[fluid ravine]

see if we were given pa66+fiberglass bottom housings with protruded magnet POM stems with like a nylon or PC top housing, super tight stem tolerance, and some 20mm 50g+- springs, we wouldve gotten a dream switch for the clackers

Duhuks were so close yet so far

[tulip rapids]

this is the hongdae way

"i love the foreign girlseu"

[fluid ravine]

🌹

[tulip rapids]

dw i will show you the Hongdae way

https://tenor.com/view/hongdae-guy-hongdae-guy-thinking-idea-gif-6722771372736748610

[fluid ravine]

finna be Hongdae itself

[tulip rapids]

You got the** IPHONE 16 PRO MAX?**

[fluid ravine]

i got the IPHONE 17 PRO MAX ULTRA

[tulip rapids]

You are bery open minded

[fluid ravine]

yesu

bery bery open mindu

[tulip rapids]

"This is the Hongdae way"

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-19631947

I love the foreign girlseu

[glacial wind]

well clack in general is the one thing HE can do decently well, but I'm not sure if the clack is exactly the same as what you're looking for

anyone with mmd c1 can confirm it's really that light at 38g bottom out?

mine are still on the way but i want to prep my guide info

[little glen]

Sno about to make one of the woot engineers build a contraption that can measure the exact specs of a switch so he can put it in his chart

[chilly mural]

and then hes going to measure how hot the switch is during 10 press/s

[little glen]

Cooking up the perfect switch goddamn

Short stem too for that 4mm travel

[chilly mural]

why stop at 4mm, when you can have the people change the stem themselves, 3mm, 3.5mm, and 4mm option

[noble turret]

Hey team, mind a semi noob question? Are keyreative kap keycaps considered good quality?

https://keyreative.store/products/kap-wob-cherry-profile-keycaps

And generally is double shot pbt much better than dye sublimated? I also found grey ash keycaps from glorious in Spanish ISO

[glacial wind]

generally not really, but only if both are decent quality. There's really cheap thin 5 side dye sub which scratches easily and that's what you find in a lot of ali express colorful graphic keycaps for example

[noble turret]

Oh interesting might go for the glorious ones then

[glacial wind]

but if you see just general dye sub legends from a reputable brand like osume, it's usually good and no issues there

probably majority of my keycaps are dyesub these days, but good quality dye sub from brands like 80retros and osume

[noble turret]

I was trying to find pbt pudding or backlit but 0 dice in Spanish iso

[glacial wind]

yeah unfortunately a lot of the language ones are hard to find and you end up stuck with aliexpress 5 sided dye sub stuff for those

[noble turret]

https://www.gloriousgaming.com/en-es/products/gpbt-rain-forest-v2-keycaps?srsltid=AfmBOooIoa5s67M_gFpKONOaM3sSolbgrzexXHfwbiG2I2BjTKwagnPx

Do you know if those are decent?

They’re not backlit but I got the ghost 80HE so I guess even without backlit I’ll be able to see the keys in the dark

[glacial wind]

honestly not sure. it's a bit weird that they don't list what printing method they used, which makes me a bit sus

[noble turret]

Thanks!

[tawdry tree]

Knew it was a skill issue

[tawdry tree]

Classic HMX clack is quite a bit higher pitched than the Astrolinks/Raptor HE V2s I think.

[spiral crater]

quick question, are there any thick Polycarb cases for any of the wooting kbs?

[tawdry tree]

Why PC specifically?

[spiral crater]

cuz it looks cool and in my experience sounds deeper than metal cases

[tawdry tree]

Ah, I’m not sure about PC but there are acrylic and ABS cases.

[spiral crater]

ooooo theres acrylic???

[tawdry tree]

ABS being the stock case for the 80HE.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, the Tofu Redux has an acrylic variant.

[spiral crater]

NOOOOO are there any for the 80he??

[tawdry tree]

There’s an acrylic variant of the Leggera too iirc

[tawdry tree]

No.

[spiral crater]

OH MY GOD THE RAW ACRYLIC LOOKS SO NICE

[tawdry tree]

Buy the 60HE v2 👍

[spiral crater]

i wish i could afford it, but might buy some switches, the lekker tikkens seem interesting asf, so i wanna see how they are.

btw anybody else swapped out the plate foam /plate on their wooting kb?

[tawdry tree]

Many

[spiral crater]

cuz i think i mightve fucked up, i bought an aftermarket poron case foam and POM plate but i swear to god the pcb is warping ever so slightly

i think its the stabs, im using typeplus yikb stabs and they seem tight asf around the stabilizers

[tawdry tree]

Ah, yeah. If the plate has plate mounted stab holes, then fat stabs (like the Typeplus) won’t fit well.

[spiral crater]

is it fine or is it sanding time

[tawdry tree]

For plastic plates it’s fine really

unless you encounter issues with the stabs themselves

if not, dw about it

[spiral crater]

nah just tight and seems to flex the pcb tiny tiny bit but everything working well, but oh my god the new plate foam and plate made my keyboard sound even more glorious than before, it sounds like pebbles clicking

and is it true that if i put on the pe/ixpe sheets on the pcb, itll mess up the switches/sensors?

like those really thin sheets that you put on the front side of the pcb under the switches

[tawdry tree]

PET sheets not so much as they’re stiff. But the foam ones can cause issues, especially when combined with a plastic plate.

[spiral crater]

ahhhhh, damn, yeah did hear very mixed results online. damn im so curious how they would chnage the sound tho, im wondering if it would mute it or make it clackier

[tawdry tree]

Just try it

you can always use less sensitive settings

if you do end up liking the sound

it’ll mute the sound more

[spiral crater]

ohhh, that might be interesting then, i was worried it would make it clackier, since i used poron foam in my gt80 but since it was so thick it ended up making it even clackier rather than muting it, which confused tf out of me at first

thanks again, appreciate it !!

[tawdry tree]

when foam compresses a lot, it can start to sound like silicone would (reflecting the sound more so to say, so more clacky).

[manic hound]

Someone give me some more raw zync/white keycap ideas

[little glen]

pc top copper bottom 80he case when

[fallen pecan]

@gaunt plume https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=971101148566 gateron dragons roar

[tropic urchin]

It’s as much of a skill issue as cam losing his legs on flux as it worked for all other switches before

[steady halo]

sheesh

[fallen pecan]

keychron selling half boards now

[manic hound]

Oo

I wonder how those will sound

[steady halo]

half keyboard with the price of whole keyboard

[tawdry tree]

I read gat like a book

[steady halo]

https://tenor.com/view/technologia-tecnologia-gif-1569446854040921730

[tawdry tree]

trueee

[chilly mural]

Why is it 160

[fallen pecan]

keychrons have always been pricier than most, and they're usually alu

[trail bane]

Maybe soon when I get the case file from KBDFans, I’ll make a copper bottom for the Holy80

[fallen pecan]

sadge

[tawdry tree]

why keychron still uses those HE sensors is beyond me

[austere creek]

big oof

[chilly mural]

ts pmo

[glacial wind]

supposedly the tactile spark feels interesting, but not ideal for HE usage

accuracy gets hit a bit as usual with tactile stuff

[calm pulsar]

is it still a split stem on them?

[calm pulsar]

maybe cause they have a huge lineup with weird stuff like 100% HE that is wireless, or a 75% HE that has a numpad added to the left lol

takes a while to change technology from that

[tawdry tree]

No split stem

[calm pulsar]

hmm so if you remove the leaf you get a linear spark that is less dampened

[tawdry tree]

or the Glorious strat, they make it proprietary so they can sell overpriced switches to their own customers

🥰

[tawdry tree]

Maybe

I don’t have the Sparks yet so not sure

I’m fairly certain that their lighter green variant is exactly that.

A Jade Emerald without the leaf

[glacial wind]

That I’m not sure. I’ll grab a few when they come out

[tawdry tree]

These

[calm pulsar]

yeah could be

[calm pulsar]

ah I thought they were already in your gateron airdrop

[noble turret]

Anyone has a sound comparison of gateron jade pro vs owlabs ti he done on the same keyboard to understand the difference?

[stoic ocean]

Recolor or what?

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[noble turret]

Omg

You are a legend

[tawdry tree]

Not a recolor exactly. The Tactile Jade Emeralds don’t have a split stem (like the Sparks have).

[noble turret]

What’s your personal experience with these two if I might ask? Just got some jade pros shipped and feeling slight buyers remorse

[tawdry tree]

They’re fine, just a bit out dated in terms of stability.

The sound profile of Jade Pros is a deeper clack, and there aren’t that many other options if you want that.

Ti HEs, are louder and higher pitched.

Is the last vid (Pink Lightning) not playing for anyone else?

[stoic ocean]

why is there the thing like on mechanical switches

[tropic urchin]

If you’ve already bought them and don’t have any frame of reference for switch stability you shouldn’t notice a lot of issues. I’d upgrade over time if the switches become super wobbly and it starts to annoy you (which is what I did)

[tawdry tree]

It’s tactile

[tropic urchin]

Once you have a frame of reference you start to notice it a lot more subconsciously

But truth be told with how many new switches get released these days, you’ll always have some buyers remorse, but there’s a lot of low cost options springing forward @noble turret

[stoic ocean]

I like these one but they are out of stock

[glacial wind]

Honestly long as you get something from jade pro gen onwards that’s recommended they’re all fairly good

[stoic ocean]

@tawdry tree

[glacial wind]

Nah wasn’t out yet, but bunch of the wooting folks got some at Gamescom

[tawdry tree]

Yeah they’re nice, but the sound test uses a wooden case here fyi.

[glacial wind]

I ordered some Jade ruby just to have them on hand since it was the only one I was missing from gateron still after the drop

Although I guess I need the sakura still as well but I’m still not sure if those are actually limited or not

[noble turret]

Omg the green tech sounded so creamy

[tawdry tree]

They don’t sound clean in person

[noble turret]

Oh really??

[tropic urchin]

Way to ruin the lad’s dreams @tawdry tree

[noble turret]

This is it right?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, but they are pretty stable and they have a split stem.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, the Greetech Unionwell Polar Pros

[noble turret]

Mmm I didn’t like how the owlabs sounded too high pitch in your recording the gateron jade pro, spark and green tech were the ones I found more pleasant

But you say the green tech isn’t pleasant in person so I should probably stick with one of the two gateron ?

[tawdry tree]

Not my recording haha, I linked the person who made it in the message as well. You can check his YT channel out for more sound tests.

[tawdry tree]

It’s a fine switch but Jade Pros sound cleaner for sure.

[noble turret]

Epic I am much happier now thanks lol

[tropic urchin]

If you end up really liking the Jade pros, the new raptor V2s share some sound profile similarities

Give them some time, and see what you like/don’t like, there’s a lot of switches to choose from nowadays vs when I got my 80HE

[glacial wind]

please do not get polar pros if creamy is your goal

absolutely do not get polar pros for that sound lol

[tropic urchin]

Not even a polar bro anymore smh

[glacial wind]

i still like them but i'd never recommend them for sound. They sound awful

[tropic urchin]

You should make another tier called “absolutely do not get these if you value sound”

[glacial wind]

there are other sound tests in the pins btw

[sacred elm]

Top wobble is terrible, I would never touch those switches

Absolute garbage

[glacial wind]

eh you never notice top wobble unless it makes sound so i never worry about it

[sacred elm]

I do, if I hover my fingers on keys

[tropic urchin]

Top wobble is usually what I notice first if I’m laying my fingers on it

And I’ll subconsciously wiggle it

[glacial wind]

for me i only care about bottom wobble

long as it's no chatter and good bottom i'm good

[tropic urchin]

I can deal with S tier top, A+ bottom, but not A top, S bottom

[glacial wind]

but unionwell is chatter city

the forth switch in the pinned message is unionwell in a different color btw @noble turret

that's what they actually sound like when recorded. A lot of chatter, no distinct sound

phone recordings hide the unionwell chatter a lot, it's why I hated all the twitter recordings

[rigid obsidian]

Might be a long shot but does anyone know where I can find this skeleton keycap for the enter key?

[glacial wind]

thockfather might, he collects artisans

[tropic urchin]

@glacial wind unrelated, blink twice if this is a forbidden topic, but has there been any talk of T45 Tikkens or is it a current wait 4-5 months post launch and it’ll maybe happen

[tropic urchin]

I would check Etsy or r/mechmarket and see if you can find something similar

[rigid obsidian]

Legend, thanks

[calm pulsar]

but what if it's cream with cookies for the added crunch

[glacial wind]

it's been brought up awhile ago by folks internally, but i'm not production so i don't know anything about where they decided to go with it

[tropic urchin]

Mark always ignores T45 so I figured it was taboo over there

[glacial wind]

well the thing is we can never add anything to the discussion there either way so not much to say

for example if we do know then we have to deny or say nothing anyway, and if we don't then we can't give any input anyway

[tropic urchin]

So it’s more of a separation of team responsibility vs actually happening or not

[marsh saffron]

I migjt be picking up an oled tomorrow or Saturday

[tropic urchin]

BIIIIIIIG

[glacial wind]

yeah one thing at wooting that a lot of folks externally don't realize is the team is huge. There's a lot of different teams working on different projects and we don't all keep up to date with the other teams stuff until it's close to release

[tropic urchin]

Understandable

[marsh saffron]

Found a open box g61sd on bestbuy for 660 cad after tax

Has warranty too

[tropic urchin]

I’d be one of the first buyers of T45, but idk if I can do 55g long spring after gaterons 50g just felt stiff to me

[glacial wind]

like some folks didn't even know we were doing a plastic case wooting v2 until it was announced because it was only really mentioned in one or two meetings that weren't mandatory for people not in that team

[marsh saffron]

If its still there when I get paid I shall buy

[tropic urchin]

I’d be cautious of dead pixels

[marsh saffron]

Only reason im buying is because it says it has warranty still

And was "geak squad certified"

So should be fine?

[tropic urchin]

Surely right

[calm pulsar]

it's dark souls lore level of mystery
only for it to turn out as "get a life nerd, we aint doing 7u, t45s and whatnot"

[tropic urchin]

Well there’s precedent for T45s, with none for tsangan and 7u so that’s why it never made sense to not offer it on launch

If ppl didn’t buy it the option wouldn’t be there (for lekkers)

[chilly mural]

nice nice

[noble turret]

Thank you so much

I’ll stick with the jade pros as my start switches and if I notice they loose rigidity then I’ll see what comes new with the sound I like

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think t45s have a big chance to exist cause they continued to make l45s when lekkers got an upgrade, and if people are ready to buy a switch instead of changing springs then there are sales to be made

[noble turret]

I love creamy sounds

I bought my son a Logitech g 515 and the sound and feel made me finally jump the gun and buy the Wooting 80HE

[tropic urchin]

Even 52.5g short spring from geon felt like I was using a G502

[noble turret]

It was so nice compared to any other keyboard I had