🔧│keyboard_modding

[tulip rapids]

benom beeeeeeeenom

https://tenor.com/view/venom-twerk-marvel-rivals-venom-venom-twerking-marvel-rivals-venom-kao-gif-8612916396515986082

[tropic urchin]

I do what I want Gateron Luminary shill

you cant play ranked in a soft bideo game

or get banned from marvel rivals

[sacred elm]

😭

[tropic urchin]

ill still use my 80HE, can you say the same when v2 releases

[stray tiger]

@sacred elm why you keep pinging me? I'm trying to eat

[sacred elm]

@stray tiger my bad

[tropic urchin]

what you eating @stray tiger

[untold wigeon]

yum!

the benom boy huh

HAHAHHAHAH

ngl, it will be a huge banger if geon makes a 80he (wooting) frog / frog leggera

[tropic urchin]

He stole my patented nickname for bigsly before I tried 60%

It’s my creation 🥀

#🔧│keyboard_modding message hehe

[sacred elm]

What do you mean patented

Bro thinks he is Gateron

[tropic urchin]

You’re infringing upon my intellectual property

[sacred elm]

💔

[tropic urchin]

You can’t just steal my toxicity 😭

[untold wigeon]

bro wants to become gateron huh

[tropic urchin]

I’ll be sending out a strongly worded IG post

[cyan lark]

Last sleep as a benomless bitch

Gonna get so many chicken dinners tomorrow

[tropic urchin]

Bro gets benom before I get ronin keycaps is CRAZY

Actually not bc geon ships in 30 mins

[thorn zealot]

imagine not getting ur package by ups yet

[tropic urchin]

Shockport is holding it hostage

Not even ups fault

If I don’t get an update in 1-2 weeks I might have to charge back

Hopefully it won’t come to that, but if it’s still stuck on 5/30 label creation by then I won’t have much of a choice

They could’ve atleast just responded to my email but nope

Even OEM worldwide wasn’t this slow and they have 1.6 stars 😭😭

[tropic urchin]

Also tell Shafie to buy Xenns tea pro

[sacred elm]

im broke

[thorn zealot]

buy subtonic storm

[uneven cradle]

And Sony A9 III

[paper bloom]

And the moondrop x crincle dusk 2

[uneven cradle]

Na that's brokie iem he has subtonic storm

[paper bloom]

True his rich

[thorn zealot]

and elysian annihilator

and elysian diva

and fatfreq king maestro

and thieaudio valhalla

[tulip rapids]

anyone here online that have tested owlab and geon switches?

anyone else experience when gaming with owlabs like theres a rod in the switch when you press down on it

compared to geons i dont feel that tension. Wondering if thats due to how the switches are made or if its due to the heavier spring. Owlabs are 50g and geons are 40g

[harsh dove]

mmh looks tasty

[thorn zealot]

for me no

they feel similar

although the diff could be cuz of the diff in bottoms

[tulip rapids]

hmm i see

ty for your insight phish

[harsh dove]

No but one thing I notice when gaming with RAWs or my Rawhuks is they have a bit of stickiness at the top sometimes

I didn't notice it for awhile but I saw few others mention it and once I noticed it, I couldn't not notice it lol

[tulip rapids]

maybe im not explaining it properly and i apologize for it

[harsh dove]

No worries

[tulip rapids]

with my geons 40g when i press all the way down it feels mushy and soft and when i press down with my owlabs 50g when i press down it feels hard like cement

which leads to my fingers fatiguing a bit when i game. Im also not use to the owlabs 50g switches

[sacred elm]

swap springs

and try

[harsh dove]

Interesting, could maybe be the springs

[stray tiger]

You can try spring swapping and see how they feel then

[tulip rapids]

yeah i'll give that a try

[paper bloom]

Is it stock lube

??

Or did u lube it urself

[tulip rapids]

i was just wondering if anyone else experience that situation before

[tulip rapids]

theyre stock

[paper bloom]

Ita def the springs

Or a bad over lubed switch

[tulip rapids]

thank you all for your feedback i'll swap springs and see how it goes

[polar girder]

Common TTC POM W

Man reminds me I still need a plate for my Wooting lol

[harsh dove]

or Owlab W lol

Owlabs doesn't have that issue

Just RAWs and Duhuks I think

[harsh dove]

What you mean?

For what case

[chilly mural]

No, they feel similar to raw for me

And I have boh my raw and ti he at 50g

[sacred elm]

Do you have steel plate?

If you bought prebuilt then its steel. Order PC plate from wooting and swap your steel plate, its so stiff

Bottoming out will feel way softer with PC plate

friction fit pad and pc plate will make huge difference

[polar girder]

module in plastic stock case

is grounding ever an issue?

[harsh dove]

Oh okay so you just need any standard Wooting/GH60 plate

[polar girder]

yeah

just to sell it basically

[sacred elm]

https://www.amazon.com/MECCANIXITY-Conductive-Electrode-Shielding-Thickness/dp/B0CXPHPYZR/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?

You can get this and ground it

cant tell, @cyan lark might know

[prime orbit]

Anyone know why I have to pay for duties for my package from maxgaming even tho I never have before?
Ordered from them like 5 times now
Never asked before

[glacial wind]

ah I see a ping. @sacred elm must have pinged me when he saw the new prvke v4 bag being launched. Don't worry I saw it already https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wepB3a-VuYE

[vocal idol]

do i get wooting + gt-80 or tiger lite gaming + kbd8x mkIII

wooting will cost more, but it has software as a plus

[glacial wind]

Depends on your budget and what you prioritise

[vocal idol]

not really a budget, but the less spent the better

[untold wigeon]

it's matter of what do u want to do to your keyboard

[vocal idol]

wooting has the analog funtionality which I want to try, but I don't know how worth it is

[untold wigeon]

venom tkl is more for customizability

where wooting priorities performance and stability

[vocal idol]

I think i'd add some kind of foam or sound dampening to either one

[untold wigeon]

for me, i will always prefer my wooting rather than my venom

because my priority is for tournaments and such

[vocal idol]

the main thing that's drawing me towards wooting is software and gt-80 in pine green

[untold wigeon]

u can mod the wooting, but the case option is not as much as the venom tkl

[vocal idol]

wouldve been nice if it was true tkl

[untold wigeon]

then get it

[untold wigeon]

nah, i kinda like the 80he layout

ngl looks neat

even tho it's not as symmetrical as normal tkl

but i kinda like the lightbar and such

it helps for showing me which profile i'm using

and a (+) from wooting is backward capability

future products (knobs, etc.) will be usable for old stuff that has ARM chip

[vocal idol]

the lightbar is kinda nice

rest of the rgb doesnt matter as i'm gonna use raeds switches

[untold wigeon]

oh, if u use multiple OS like me..
i suggest wooting, since venom makes a couple of bugs on the MacOS (lag, frame drops)

[vocal idol]

just windows

venom build would cost $330, while wooting is $435 @untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

in my mind,
it worth the price

i bought gt80 as well

still on shipping

[vocal idol]

I might do it then. Wish it was a little cheaper though

What color gt80 did you get

[untold wigeon]

dp

[untold wigeon]

nah, worth the price

[lime yew]

If you care about the warranty you might want to check this out as well: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

Versus our 4 year warranty

[untold wigeon]

true

even my 80he is defect on arrival,
and still waiting on the support tho

my gt80 case will arrive today

i think i’m unlucky about receiving my purchased items…
my venom tkl from tiger lite had the jst port cover opened, but gladly can be fixed easily

[untold wigeon]

but true,
both keyboard are intended for different markets

venom is introducing “custom HE” to custom enthusiasts

and wooting is for gamers who wants one of the best performance with the best stability

[vocal idol]

i wish more boards implement the analog feature in their software

but currently very few do

i know of wooting, sayodevice, and keychron that let you

[untold wigeon]

u meant to say gamepad?

if so, the feature is not for everyone…
very few people who use it..
and please remember, that venom is a “custom” enthusiast pcb..
not prioritizing gaming features and such…
even they just started (2-3 months?) on couple of “reduce latency” like focus keys and such..

[untold wigeon]

sayodevice implementation of the gamepad feature is not that good

[vocal idol]

they only make 60% anyway

i want 80

[untold wigeon]

true, because their main audience are osu & geometry dash players

[vocal idol]

i'm not even sure how often I'd use the feature, but it would suck to be limited by software when the hardware could do it

it might be fun to mess around with

[untold wigeon]

because they know it’s not as important as stability for now…
while wooting has it since their first analog keyboard(?)

[paper bloom]

I wish they made a modular chest rig/ sling

but damn thats some good gear

[glacial wind]

Yeah their prvke bag is the best backpack right now imo.

@sacred elm has expensive taste though and has been recommending the wotancraft 3.5l leather pilot sling

[paper bloom]

ive been running the mous bag

[ancient acorn]

what's the optimal way to pull out a friction fitted pcb from the tofu60 redux?

[untold wigeon]

pull the plate with tweezers

[patent dragon]

Whats the lowest travel distance he switch out there?

[fringe quarry]

that is compatible to wooting?

[tropic urchin]

Apparently those are only good for COD 🤣 according to the goat fresh reviews

[tropic urchin]

Oh my

Is it ping shf time

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-27693681

[tropic urchin]

Oh the person I wanted to see

[patent dragon]

Yeah

[tropic urchin]

@ shf

[thorn zealot]

Not that guy

[tropic urchin]

Not this guy

[thorn zealot]

Not this guy

[tropic urchin]

Not dis guy

[thorn zealot]

Not dis guy

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-photocopier-xerox-kitty-kitten-gif-21569967

[sacred elm]

https://wootingmods.com/switchguide/

[glacial wind]

it'd probably be that new one I just added other day, that mchose apollo one that's 3.1mm

[sacred elm]

this is so nice actually

[glacial wind]

yeah it's probably the actual nicest small sling bag that doesn't look like a camera bag

[stray adder]

Hi all, first time chatter here (and first time builder).
Im about to order the Optimum 60HE, and looking for advice to get the most thocky sound as possible. I dont have much experience with switches. Would any of you reccomend me some? 🙂 Thanks a lot

[tropic urchin]

Probably UR studio ice

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/s/Ut0xzHifUj

I think they’re the 3rd ones if you wanna check it out to see if that’s something you’d like @stray adder

But that’s probably the closest you’ll get

[stray adder]

Thanks a lot! 🙂 Great comparison in this video

[tropic urchin]

I’d also keep an eye out for the new tikken switches that will be releasing with the new 60HEv2, they’re supposed to be deeper sounding as well

They should be releasing some time Q4 this year

[stray adder]

Ooh, okey! Nice 🙂 Then I’ll think I just wait to order

Thanks a lot guys

[vocal idol]

are the stabilizers on the 80he good, or should I replace them?

[glacial wind]

leave them unless you specifically have an issue with yours

[quasi hinge]

Day 626 of waiting for the knob 🫥

[tropic urchin]

Let go unc

Add on another 130 days

[quasi hinge]

I live for the knob

[tropic urchin]

And it lives for you

[quasi hinge]

I just coasted away after my build

The keystone is the knob

Or knobs lol

[vocal idol]

anyone have pictures of gt-80 in pine green?

[sacred elm]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1370444668558381136

[vocal idol]

ty

[tropic urchin]

If you get it, pair it with GMK British racing and you got a fire set

[vocal idol]

those do look nice

I got marrs green recently, kinda want to see how it turns out with pine green case

[snow yarrow]

@sacred elm can you explain the meaning of this to us non he-luminaries 🥀

[sacred elm]

🥀 hope its not "luminary" switch

[tawdry tree]

Jade Max V2 with a POM stem this time around. 💀

[sacred elm]

Apparently it should be something different, but they are saying the same about green dragon and jade ruby lol

[tawdry tree]

PC bottom, PC top

I don’t even remember PC being a bottom housing option

[sacred elm]

They said its DIY switch, maybe they will include different material parts

holy cope

[tawdry tree]

imagine you have to assemble every switch yourself 💀

[sacred elm]

If its good, I dont mind

[tawdry tree]

makes lubing easier

[crimson sky]

only works if you subscribe to the streaming service

[tropic urchin]

Holy cap

They patenting putting air in switches now

L brain drain

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Buminaries bc they ass

[languid pine]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[tawdry tree]

“New HE Switches - AstroAim

AstroAim switches offer a thocky profile, a lower pitched sound contrast to Astrolink's clacky feel.
While Astrolink could be a premium choice, AstroAim provides an excellent budget-friendly option without compromising the sound and performance!

We're constantly improving the sound and stability of our HE switches, and you'll first experience them on the new Akko TAC75 keyboard. They'll also be available for retail later.

Stay tuned!”

[tropic urchin]

$0.01 per switch 🔥

[sacred elm]

saved this

[ionic breach]

looks good

[tawdry tree]

I loveee outemu 🥰

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/imabesavingthatforlater-imabesavingthat4later-imabesavingthat-ima-be-saving-that-ima-be-saving-that-for-later-gif-16548514061732001937

[tawdry tree]

idk what this is supposed to be tho 👀

[tropic urchin]

Type shii

[ionic breach]

the bottom is flat asf lmao

[chilly mural]

Naisu, new switch

[ionic breach]

it gunna be thuddy

[chilly mural]

hopefully it'll be $0.25 per switch

[tropic urchin]

Unaffordable

[tawdry tree]

flat shaming?

[sacred elm]

tohcky

[ionic breach]

some like it

its faux thock

[glacial wind]

i'm skeptical of when switches claim to be budget alternatives. I feel they always downgrade the magnet they use

[ionic breach]

oh ye

i had a raw die on me lmao

[glacial wind]

like ttc does with a lot of their non top tier line switches. Almost same but then they throw a cheapie magnet into it instead of the good one

[ionic breach]

its now sticking to the bottom if i press hard enuf

[tawdry tree]

outemu’s have been fine

except for the ones that have smaller magnets but that’s because they’re a lot less strong.

still suspicious on the relation between magnet quality to strength inconsistency

[vocal idol]

That's nice

I do wish there was one in this color though

[tropic urchin]

Looks more blue than green

[marble sierra]

Buy one and sandblast to back to bare metal n paint accordingly

sandblast or sand it

then use a matt clear coat at the end to protect the paint work

[tawdry tree]

The yellow one too.

[fallen pecan]

Only 2 switches on the tac75

[chilly mural]

Mmm, considering the price of the keeb, switches might cost $0.35

[ripe void]

Can you get straight versions of the coiled cables

I want one for my mouse so it matches

[languid pine]

the wooting coiled one comes with a straight bit

[wispy vine]

Im sure there's plenty of sites that sell after market cables. I'd check CableMod, that's the first one that comes to mind

[ripe void]

What's the coupler fitting called in the coiled cable or is it a wooting special

[languid kestrel]

FGG/PHG

[spiral canyon]

I found that info ☝️

[languid kestrel]

[rich phoenix]

Anyone have both the 461E and the GT60? Was wondering if it made any sense to upgrade from my 461E for the newer gasket mount design.

[polar girder]

@stray tiger got it

5/5 maybe 6/5 if wildcard wins

But I have both tyloo and fly quest so that got me my 5th

Thank goodness lol

I was sweating for a second

[opal carbon]

hey everyone, can anyone recommend me good gray-ish high quality blank pbt keycaps that would fit well with the gray gt80 case?

[fluid ravine]

When bro asks for blank grey pbt set-
GMK COSMOS

[tropic urchin]

Oh nvm I didn’t read blank

[fluid ravine]

And pbt

[tropic urchin]

Shit

I need to restart my morning

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

I need to SLEEP

[tropic urchin]

Nobody saw anything

[fluid ravine]

I did!

[sweet oak]

[tropic urchin]

🥀

[tropic urchin]

Back when I was your age we didn’t tolerate snitches

https://tenor.com/view/brass-knuckles-knuckles-knuckle-duster-titane-knuckles-knucks-gif-10129292627361939964

[fluid ravine]

Hah I got 3 stitches

All on one arm

[fluid ravine]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-blanks?variant=41614929395823

[tropic urchin]

Imma spike keycaps on you

https://tenor.com/view/galen-gering-venice-spike-volleyball-boom-gif-13112555

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Equivalent to stepping on legos got it

[silver nest]

black caps with a grey case looke fire ngl

[chilly mural]

Too cosmos pilled

[tropic urchin]

Eyes just don’t work

Need them recalled

[chilly mural]

It's fine

Maybe you're just getting old

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/glare-gif-14943597

[tropic urchin]

I read too fast and skipped over a few important words

[chilly mural]

Like an old person reading newspaper

[tropic urchin]

shouldnt you be working on upgrading that 15hz monitor of yours

[chilly mural]

I swear 60hz is still good enough to me

[tropic urchin]

just like xbox users insisting that 30 fps is still good

[chilly mural]

Gimme like 1-2 months

[tropic urchin]

"WOOOOAHHHHH STARFIELD IS GREAT ON 30 FPS"

[chilly mural]

Tbf, for most of my gaming time I only get 60fps on non competitive game

[opal carbon]

thanks, anything in eu perhaps? shipping is like 25€

[snow yarrow]

Had to see for myself if these live up to the hype, can confirm theyre very nice

[chilly mural]

Yay

Another having the tee hee switch

[snow yarrow]

The tx switch puller on the other hand... managed to damage the very first switch i tried to pull 🥀

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

I was wrong about the switch pusher

it’s fucking great

it just doesn’t work with all switches

(similar to the puller)

it’s cute af too

🥰

[snow yarrow]

Thats true, i didnt push it down enough before pulling, but also because i couldnt see shit since its so big

[tawdry tree]

You’ll get the hang of it eventually.

Then you’ll be able to store up to six switches in the puller itself and dump them out in a container every time.

🥰🥰

[obtuse musk]

The wooting 80he pcb is 1.6mm thick right? Meaning I don’t need to use the included shims with the sw knight stabs?

[sacred elm]

Correct

[tulip rapids]

isnt it upside down

?

shouldnt the clear part be on the top?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah but if you don't use rgb it don't matter

[tulip rapids]

i see

[tawdry tree]

Cherry’s magnetic switch. Not sure if it’s even manufactured by Cherry or if it’ll be compatible with Woot’s boards. The bottom housing either is from Hejin or they shared the mold with Cherry. Very weird.

Smaller magnet.

More holes in the bottom housing for heat dissipation.. 😭

MX 8.2 PRO TMR definitely by the same OEM as MonsGeek’s FUN stuff.

Same off center TMR sensors and magmech compatibility

[chilly mural]

Huh, soo many OEM

At least it can even the playing ground for people that can't afford wooting.

[chilly mural]

Soo expensive, $200

Hopefully it's as good as woot 80

[tawdry tree]

Surely..

Assuming FUN60 Ultra performance, it isn’t great.

Accuracy will be good and single-key latency as well but that’s about it.

[polar girder]

Yeah big fan

[tawdry tree]

first time I used it, it slipped off of the switches and then got stuck. it was kinda a pain so I didn’t try it again.

tried it recently and put the switches in the pusher instead and it worked great

no longer sore fingers after installing new switches 😂

[sweet oak]

MangoHE is getting there

[sacred elm]

Send

[sweet oak]

Prove yourself worthy

[sacred elm]

I love mango

[sweet oak]

How much crunch do you have

[sacred elm]

Crunch

[sweet oak]

Ok keep an eye on your mailbox

[sacred elm]

🌹

[obtuse musk]

Do I need to use the little rings that come with the sw knight stabilier screws with 80he

Since the stock ones don’t have those either

[tropic urchin]

I crunch mango 4 times a day, 20 times a week

[sweet oak]

Goated server tag….

[obtuse musk]

Talking about these red ring things

[tropic urchin]

You just put the red things on your golden screws before you screw the stab into your PCB

[cloud pivot]

yea those are washers, apply them like varedis says

they prevent the metal screws from scraping the solder mask off the pcb and eating into the metal layers, causing issues

so i would say they are essential as well

[obtuse musk]

Aight thanks

Just got done lubing

Hope they’ll be decent first try because idk if I can be arsed to remove them again when I’m done lol

[cloud pivot]

you can always fix it later on with syringe lubing btw

[obtuse musk]

Don’t have a syringe at hand atm but yeah maybe later

[cloud pivot]

yo wtf we got the same color too 🔥🔥

yeah those things are really fucking divine for HE switches especially ime

those side clips make them much harder to push in than regular mx

[tawdry tree]

I got the red pusher, red CNC puller and white goated puller

[tawdry tree]

for hejin stuff it’s great

[cloud pivot]

my tx puller is unfortunately yellow because every other was oos at the time 🥀

[tawdry tree]

🤮

Color doesn’t affect functionality so it doesn’t matter

but yellow is dogshit

https://tenor.com/view/worry-froge-froge-frog-frog-meme-concerned-froge-gif-11682222603679007150

[cloud pivot]

i got cursed into getting yellow twice on switch pullers

yellow tx puller, gold ws puller

at least ws puller gold is more of a dull gold instead of bright yellow

it almost looks like brass irl

that i dig

[tawdry tree]

yeah

tx should release a non painted version tbh

the paint chips off over time anyway

[cloud pivot]

this is why i hate spray coated/ecoated stuff where it could be raw/anodized

keyboard cases especially 🙏

[tawdry tree]

their new “everything in one” is raw and it looks sick

[cloud pivot]

oh the multitool?

ye i been planning on getting one too but also idk

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[cloud pivot]

i kinda have already built up a toolbox so i dont see much justifying getting one

[thorn zealot]

u guys think its worth getting a tx puller even though i own the ws one

[tawdry tree]

just the multi keycap pulling I’m interested in

[cloud pivot]

i suppose they might make sense for newbies though

[tawdry tree]

if you care for speed, yes.

[cloud pivot]

imo no

ws puller feels nice enough if you apply a bit of mouse grip tape on it

i def prefer tx for the wider body still

[tawdry tree]

I never really like multi tools in the sense that I’d want multiple of them for each purpose 😂

(if they work well that is)

[obtuse musk]

Oh my lord I forgot the silicone pad 😭

[cloud pivot]

yeah i think they only make sense for newbies or seasonal hobbyists who dont care enough to invest in discrete tools

[obtuse musk]

It’s okay I love unscrewing and rescrewing things

[cyan lark]

Screwing is fun

[tawdry tree]

I didn’t like their CNC puller much and it seems to be the same design so doubt I’d like it for that

dedicated keycap puller that is plastic is nice though. rather use that the the metal wuque one

metal on plastic keycaps is scary

[cloud pivot]

true, though i dont really care much for my 7 year old beater gmk wob set as much anymore

any pullar scar is just Patina™️ now

i already sold off the rest of my gmk collection 🙏

[tawdry tree]

💔

[cloud pivot]

its ok i enjoyed cashing out early instead of sitting on MM for decades later

[obtuse musk]

Btw one of the pcb screw holes was for some reason really rusty

All the others were fine

Dunno whats up with that lol

[tawdry tree]

fair

[obtuse musk]

I have lekker switches flying all around the house

Because they’re in so tight and when I finally get them off they fly off

The yellow ones are even more stubborn

My poor fingers

[languid pine]

They are god awful to remove 🤣 i was expecting similar with the jades but they pop out no problem

[tawdry tree]

Jade Pros surely?

[languid pine]

Rubies

[obtuse musk]

My switch puller is half-broken

It’s the only one I have atm so I hope it’ll make it to the end

[sacred elm]

Disassemble the keyboard and pull from the plate

[tawdry tree]

Ah, yeah. Those had both their bottom housing and top housing updated to make them not that painful to remove.

[languid pine]

[obtuse musk]

Alright it’s fully smoothed out

[sweet oak]

The easiest pull

[obtuse musk]

5 switches remain

[sweet oak]

Some will say its fake

[languid pine]

Granted no pcb but doing that with lekkers you have no chance

[languid pine]

JESUS MAN

[obtuse musk]

I’m getting the flathead screwdrivers

[obtuse musk]

These switches will not win

How are they in this hard

HAH I got one

Ok I got them all

Screwdrivers are meta

[sweet oak]

Or couldve popped them out from the bottom of the plate…

[sacred elm]

Use screwdriver to disassemble the keyboard and then pop switches from the plate

That included switch puller is so bad, you are wasting time and hurting your hand

[cloud pivot]

even with good pullers, pulling HE switches is just pure pain

definitely just take your time to disassem

[obtuse musk]

That would be admitting defeat

[sweet oak]

Your words ring true

[cloud pivot]

that would be respecting the durability of your fingers, actually

and your switches too

[obtuse musk]

No switches were broken

I’m an engineer don’t worry guys

[cloud pivot]

im talking about the top housing warping from the pulling force

surely an engineer would account for practicality no

[obtuse musk]

Alright time for owlabs

I heard those are even harder to remove

[cyan lark]

Benom built

[chilly mural]

Yey

[polar girder]

Nice bro

Is that BT80?

[polar girder]

Commence gamer shine

[cyan lark]

Not sure what that is, but the case is Tiger Lite

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/clavier-le-cleanair-mini-aspirateur-mini-souffleur-gif-6348622509628625849

[cyan lark]

Gotta put them to use somewhere

[tropic urchin]

disgusting

[cyan lark]

Figure I'll bring this to my in-person work thing next week and show those kids I mean business

[tropic urchin]

meanwhile I ordered my ronin keycaps 5/23 and i will be getting a mouse that i ordered yesterday before them

GGs

[cyan lark]

GG T_T

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-gif-23721049

[cyan lark]

If it makes you feel any better I ordered this like 5 months ago

[thorn zealot]

no switches are hard to remove if u just take it apart with the plate

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-twerk-marvel-rivals-venom-venom-twerking-marvel-rivals-venom-kao-gif-8612916396515986082

[stray tiger]

Didn't get it. Wildcard and Fly quest lost. I got screwed with 5 of my picks playing each other. That's how it goes though

[cyan lark]

May be the most upsetting thing I see today. Same as the last time I saw it posted in here T_T

[obtuse musk]

Alright both the stabilizer and the switches feel great

might have overlubed the spacebar stabs a little bit but not enough for me to bother going to fix it. Maybe it'll just even out in time

overall results are better than I expected

[rich phoenix]

uhhh well this just happened

I was just doing some work then hear a crack from the spacebar stab.....

[tropic urchin]

I think you could also just spam your space bar every now and again to speed up the process. has helped some keys i overlubed from previous sets

[stray tiger]

Sounds like your work is stressful!

[rich phoenix]

guess its what i get for buying cheapo durock screw ins. I just checked all the other ones and they're fine. Guess maybe it was cracked when i installed them last year and it just slowly got worse.

[tulip rapids]

beeenom nom nom its beeeeeenom

[chilly mural]

Play GD or any rhythm game

[cloud pivot]

nooo dont

durocks are really ass among other options nowadays

[tall hollow]

Typeplus stabs

my beloved

[cloud pivot]

i would recommend either

paigu/wuque stupid - 8$, zero rattle plug and play AT the cost of weirdly silent stabilizer sound, due to using aggressive TPU dampening

or

knight v3s - 22$, wire needs 205g0 syringed into but thats it

[cloud pivot]

idk they are pretty mediocre

[tall hollow]

for me they are excellent

[cloud pivot]

in my experience

knight v3s massively mogged them for me

[tall hollow]

no need to wire balance, out the box, pretty easy to assemble, sound great, and they feel amazing.

[cloud pivot]

you dont need to wire balance with any other stabs either...... (unless the wire is so crooked to the point where it is apparent, but this is not a real problem anymore with modern stab sets packaging their wires in princess carry foams)

wire balancing is keyboard bro science

[cloud pivot]

and the first option i mentioned is also dead silent with zero extra touches

[cloud pivot]

oh my bad i thought you were going to buy durocks LMAO

i misread my bad

[rich phoenix]

I might go with wuque stupid. With the tpu layer do i need to lube or just leave it dry

naw don't worry

[cloud pivot]

2us are flawless dry, 6.25/7u might need dielectric syringed

[rich phoenix]

luckily i still a have some 205 from when I relubed my jades.

Whats the new meta switch? Haven't been in the game for months

[cloud pivot]

205 can be fine too but they displace a bit fast

i have only ever used them on stupidly tight stab sets that are intolerant to overlubing such as staebies/txaps/knights

[cloud pivot]

owlab ti

[rich phoenix]

I think I have some automotive dielectric grease but its in a dirty container under my sink. I'll just order some more in a squeeze bottle.

[cloud pivot]

adequate factory lube and they are on the deeper end of HE switch sounds

and they have good wobble

[thorn zealot]

wondering how so?

for me they on par

[cloud pivot]

my set had unknown 7u rattle

not my keycap either since i have straightened it out long ago

[thorn zealot]

ah i see

[cyan lark]

Does benom's software really not have a select all for actuation point configuration?

[coral steppe]

could someone help with an issue im having with my keyboard

I put together this board last year and I accidentally pulled the esc switch out and the gummy o ring is not letting me rest the switch back into place

[tidal frigate]

You have to rebuild keyboard

[steel jasper]

yeah what board is this ?

[coral steppe]

60 He module

[steel jasper]

ur not supposed to oring a tray keyboard

[coral steppe]

when i built it everyone said it was fine

[steel jasper]

if it fits its fine ig

[coral steppe]

so what should i do to get the switch back in

[tidal frigate]

@coral steppe

[coral steppe]

im not doing that

[tidal frigate]

Then you cant put switch in

[coral steppe]

wait I think I found a solution

I might be able to push the oring under the plate and press the plate down to secure it back

[cloud pivot]

nope, only multiple select

[coral steppe]

and then put the switch in

[tidal frigate]

Your oring mount wouldnt work

Because it holds on corner switches

[cloud pivot]

yeah this is very scuffed

just let it go bro 🥀

[coral steppe]

I did that and the switch is back in working

[little glen]

you should remove that foam pad under your switch

fucks with accuracy

[coral steppe]

i only temporarily pressed the plate down to make room for the switch

nah tbh i think im fine the responsiveness is just the same and it feels fine

[cyan lark]

Absolutely brutal. TY for the reponse tho.

[cloud pivot]

eh it aint that bad

its something you will only do once in a while 🥀

[thorn zealot]

cant u set it by global

[cloud pivot]

WAIT IM FUCKING STUPID

SORRY

[thorn zealot]

yes u can

[cloud pivot]

yeah apparently i accidentally clicked a key and it didnt show global

still cant drag select tho which is kinda tuff i think

[cyan lark]

I see, I didn't understand how to configure the global, and that the global was also per-profie.

[dapper hazel]

Each shipment contains one pack of four 3mm tall custom made Clear Silicone Bumpons for your Wrist Rest in case you want to increase its height
;)

we actually made that... ;)

[cloud pivot]

omg its john keebmat

your keebtape rocks

[dapper hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/john-quagmore-who-else-gif-9258110269812753530

[dapper hazel]

thanks! I wish more people knew haha

[cloud pivot]

other than that i kinda dont like the rest of your products :(

[dapper hazel]

lol

[cloud pivot]

except thockring i guess

[dapper hazel]

there ya go, something

[stray tiger]

The keebmats are great, what are you on about

[cloud pivot]

i prefer tx mat

[dapper hazel]

lol

[cloud pivot]

i guess i would like the felt ones if i liked felt mats

[dapper hazel]

i like the original better too

but the quality is a bit better than kin's

glad you like keebtape though

[thorn zealot]

pls not ups or fedex

[dapper hazel]

hah

it really is that bad now that everyone hates ups and fedex, globally

[cyan lark]

USPS 👑 🫡

[thorn zealot]

ups is poo poo

fedex is ight

dhl on top

[tropic urchin]

DHL 6/5 stars

[cloud pivot]

ah i nearly forgot but are you perhaps new to installing clip in stabs @rich phoenix

because you will be doing that for the ws stupids

this video can be helpful for knowing how to install the stoppers easily since they can be hard to intuit for beginners
https://youtu.be/OcK_8qf-UP8

[tawdry tree]

@sacred elm

luminaries releasing in Q4 2028

😃👍

[glacial wind]

I’m confused

So what’s new then

[tawdry tree]

Jade Max V2

[glacial wind]

Those specs are just same as normal jade pro specs

I guess it’s jade pro but clear?

[tawdry tree]

but this time they dropped the dual rails

and the PC stem

[glacial wind]

I feel gateron doesn’t quite use the word new the same way as everyone else

[rich phoenix]

oh i’ve always just smashed them in with a flat bladed screw driver. This will help!

[cloud pivot]

what the hell are those apple emojis my guy

also

why do they use 1.2mm pcb measurements

how is this relevant when everyone is on 1.6

[tawdry tree]

gateron 😃👍

[tropic urchin]

Ah okay so they’ve caught up with September 2024

Nice

[cloud pivot]

Whats Da Context

is this related to people complaining about dual rails binding?

[tropic urchin]

No it’s realizing you don’t need to have a dual rail after jamming it into everything that moved

New for them is being 6 months behind

[snow yarrow]

They say the jade air are dual rail in the comments

[robust pendant]

jade, jade pro, jade max, jade gaming, now the jade air

wtf does jade even mean at this point

is jade a real word

[cloud pivot]

the only real jades are Kailh Box Jades

[fluid ravine]

It's giving Jade's

[fluid ravine]

Xray pad could never with their skates

[fluid ravine]

You know that tortilla slap challenge
Should do that with keebmats

[steel ibex]

Is this normal

Ignore the sound in the background lmao

[fluid ravine]

What switches?

Well simple fix, geon spacers

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cloud pivot]

nope

use geon spacers to fix stab seesawing on higher travel switches

[fluid ravine]

Lower travel*

[sacred elm]

👍 👍 👍

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/shellshock-thousand-yard-stare-what-wtf-bro-gif-13085994373754983931

[sacred elm]

@tawdry tree is that actually it

tf are they doing

[tawdry tree]

no

not luminary if that’s what you mean

I have no clue what they’re doing

[sacred elm]

ah not luminary, we are saved then

[tawdry tree]

Q4 2028

😃👍

[sacred elm]

😭

they should post something about it next week

[glacial wind]

Fingers crossed same thing but no lube 🙂

[tawdry tree]

surlely

[glacial wind]

And blue

[sacred elm]

You are evil

💔

[glacial wind]

No, I’m a luminary

You need to respect my vision of the gateron unlubed blue luminary switch

[sacred elm]

Need my crazylight right now

@glacial wind

[glacial wind]

I hope they send a friends and family unit to some friends in Korea then I can steal it lol

[sacred elm]

do you know if they plan to release web software

[glacial wind]

No idea about that one

[uneven cradle]

True I need me a friends and family something

[fluid ravine]

Sup fam

[dapper hazel]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/money-card-gif-24134072

[little glen]

i got reminded that i wanted to buy a keebmat for my 80he but the felt ones are sold out in 80he size

[slow zodiac]

i bought keycaps from aliexpress

not my smartest choice

[little glen]

they can be ok

[slow zodiac]

yh well

there abit small

[little glen]

[slow zodiac]

ill just have to make them work

[low coral]

If I want to buy stabilizers for the wooting 80HE and I have owlab TIs, I need “long pole” ones, right?

Like these https://deltakeyco.com/products/tx-ap-long-pole-stabilizers-screw-in-rev-4?variant=47295710757205

[glacial wind]

you don't necessarily need those

you can use 'geon stem spacers' on any other stab

that turns it into a 'long pole stab'

[low coral]

What is better? Price is not a concern

[glacial wind]

personally i prefer using stem spacers because it's flexible for future

and you can use any stab you want

for example if you want to try 4mm stabs later it's a bit scuffed on long pole stabs, but if you use stem spacers you just pull them off and you're good

long pole specific stabs been becoming less common too, so it's fairly limited options now that swagkey also stopped making them

[low coral]

I kind of see more switches like 3.x popping out, so they usually use that?

Or what are the recommended stabilizers you guys use?

Thanks for the answers! I’m quite new to this

[glacial wind]

3.5 or so is quite common now, although the upcoming wooting switch is 4mm for example

[slow zodiac]

what do i do if u bought new keycaps and one of them doesnt fit

[glacial wind]

usually recommendation is don't replace stabilizers unless you have a specific problem with your current stabilizers, but if you do want to pick some 3rd party stabilizer then there are some popular ones such as the swagkey knight and typeplus x yikb

[low coral]

I got the owlab ti 40g and I like them a lot so far, I just want to have a more consistent sound because the spacebar rattles a lot and every key that has a stabilizer sounds different. I was thinking on fixing the space bar but I might as well try to get a consistent sound.

So I wonder if it’s better to get stabilisers that match my switches or what is the best solution

[glacial wind]

no matter what you do the stab keys will sound a little different

there's no solution for that

[low coral]

Yeah but I’m talking about each stab key sounding different compared to each other, not to non stab keys

[glacial wind]

you can stick foam into the stab keys such as space bar in particular

[glacial wind]

that's also totally normal

they're different lengths

and different spots in keyboard

[low coral]

OK so it’s better to keep stock, lube them and add the stem spacers?

[glacial wind]

generally yeah i'd just try to fix stock ones and only if for some reason you can't fix stock ones then you look at aftermarket stabs

btw got a couple dms from folks wanting to add their photos to the mod site - been a little busy so haven't added new sections to the live site yet, but there are some big things coming early next month-ish that folks will be pleasantly surprised by

[grave stratus]

Guys my wooting 60he+ dont fonction on my pc but on wootility its fonction, how my keyboard can fonction?

[glacial wind]

might want to open a help thread in #1019755933959733258

[low coral]

So I checked the stem spacers and tbh the difference is not much, I still need to pay 10+ euros on shipping (I live in a small european country) so buying something that is 5 euros or 17 euros I think I might prefer to get "the proper solution" rather than a "bandaid" like the stem spacer seems to be.

So if I lean more to getting stabilizers, which one are the best for 3.4mm switches? the TX AP come in long pole, the Typeplus X YIBK doesn't seem to be but they are cheaper.

Thanks again for the help and sorry for so many questions!

[sacred elm]

Do you have issues with stabilizers or why do you want to swap them

[low coral]

I wanted to relube them because my space bar rattles a lot, like if there was some small metallic piece moving around inside. So I was wondering if I should get new ones since my switches are 3.4mm and I read online that it's better to get "long pole" for those

sno said I could get the "Geon Stem Spacer" that are 4.5 eur but I still need to pay 10+ eur on shipping so I wonder if it's just better to go all the way and getting new stabilizers

[sacred elm]

Check Knight v3 stabilizers

[low coral]

Those are out of stock in deltakeyco which is the shop I know here 🤔

[sacred elm]

typeplus?

[low coral]

those are the cheapest, but I don't see them in long pole version

[sacred elm]

oh theyre also out of stock

[low coral]

Those I can buy from China for way cheaper

like 20 eur with delivery and vat

But those aren't long pole, are they? or it doesn't matter?

[sacred elm]

Long pole version isnt really needed, I have never had an issue with regular stabilizers and 3.4mm switches

[glacial wind]

that's kind of what i've been telling you. Long pole heavily limits your option of stabilizer choices and isn't any better than just using stem spacers

literally none of the most recommended stabilizers that everyone will tell you to buy as 'best stabilizer' etc are available in long pole

it's much more convenient to just buy any stabilizer you want then throw on stem spacers

[low coral]

Ok, so what is the most recommended that is not long pole?

[glacial wind]

typeplus x yikb, swagkey knight, designer studio adaptive pcb stabs

those are the 3 most commonly recommended and popular ones

[low coral]

Ok, I guess I will get them from China and save some money, I see they also have the stem spacers there thanks!

the "60 set" for Typeplus X YIKB is enough, right?

[glacial wind]

yeah 60 set is just normal amount of stabs iirc

[low coral]

Awesome, thank you both for the help!

One last question sorry, to lube either of those, knights or typeplus. I see some people mentioning they use Krytox 205G0 for them, is it better than Molykote EM-50L? I have those 2 from Wooting

[glacial wind]

tl;dr is modern day stabs don't use more than just 205g0 due to tolerances and build

you no longer need to use thicker greases on many of these newer generation stabilizers

hrm these upcoming scraft caps are oem size without the top cap part https://www.s-craft.studio/shop/in-stock

that's actually tempting since it'll finally be the right height

[little glen]

damn

i am tempted

[tidal frigate]

I hope so Nintendo dosent know about it

[uneven cradle]

They should since they are officially licensed

[low coral]

What is usually the durability of those artisan caps? Do they last long or they start to fade with some use?

[uneven cradle]

Should be fine for a long time, might yellow over time though especially if left in sun

[fallen pecan]

@gaunt plume huano omega switch https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=935323846659

gateron jade air https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=935038982143

[sacred elm]

is magnet same as jade pro

[fallen pecan]

same magnet

[sweet oak]

So very tasty

[reef oar]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-friday-gif-14309431053045272747

[cyan lark]

Benom. Appreciably louder compared to my Wooting builds. There's some plate foam in there and I put some polyfil in the case. Used the FR4 plate and stabs included in the kit. Pretty fun overall.

Use everything from https://drop.com/buy/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-80-mechanical-keyboard-kit-v2 aside from the film. Brought my own switches and caps.

[chilly mural]

mmm, sounds a lot clackier than mine. But I use everything from the kit including the film so it could be why

[cyan lark]

It is intensely clacky. My room is also pretty much all hard surfaces.

[snow yarrow]

As someone who has no clue, what so bad about dual rail? Are other switches mono rail or no rail? @tawdry tree @glacial wind

[tawdry tree]

Dual rails are and have been more of a marketing thing rather than an actual improvement. The wobble is the same and the dual rails cause more friction than regular single rails.

It’s basically shit all around and gateron continues to add them to every switch they release for no fucking reason at all other than a marketing point.

[glacial wind]

basically does nothing but makes switches worse for no reason

[tawdry tree]

all their claims of “less wobble” are completely untrue as well. KS-20Us have similar wobble to KS-20s while increasing friction..

[sacred elm]

Fixed with luminary switches ✅

[tawdry tree]

dual rail luminaries 👀

[sacred elm]

Im curious whats different about it lol

[snow yarrow]

I see, thanks for explaining

[tawdry tree]

because it’s taking quite a while, I think it’s safe to rule out a recolor (as they said as well but I didn’t believe it yet).

something “big” surely

big improvements 🥰

[chilly mural]

and keychron's HE keeb only uses it

😭 😭 😭

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[chilly mural]

I have no hope for their Q0 HE

[tawdry tree]

KS-20U Jade Max, Jade Genty Silent, KS-37B, KS-37C and Jade Mini Es. 😭😭

[glacial wind]

i totally forgot about dual rails for the luminary switch

dual rail + blue, no lube, mx stem, jade pro 3.5mm for shafie

[sacred elm]

Tikkens before tikkens🌹 They are rats so surely they release 4mm travel closed bottom before wooting

[tawdry tree]

if that happened, we’re all going to china

[tawdry tree]

that’d be funny ngl

[sacred elm]

[cyan lark]

Oh I forgot Tikkens are gonna be 4mm. I knew I was pumped for them but kinda forgot why 😆

[tall hollow]

4mm and closed bottom!

[cyan lark]

I am so ready

I want something to knock out my KoMs but I just can't get away from them for my mains

[chilly mural]

uesh

waitin for that and the knob to be in stock so I can save on shipping

[tall hollow]

I am curious to see how stable it is compared to kom

It's probably going to be less stable if I were to guess

It's very hard to beat the stability of box stems with a traditional stem design

The stability of the KOMs is what sold me onto them, and I am glad I chose them because they are super consistent no matter how you press them.

[ripe nova]

What's the difference of dustproof stem and box stem?

[tawdry tree]

same same, though I should point out that “Box Stem” is incorrect as was recently pointed out to me. Box originates from Box switches which have enclosed contacts (in a Box) to protect them from dust and liquids. Dust Proof or walled stems are different but they were still intended to protect against dust and liquids as well.

I think walled stems is better suited as the reason why they’re popular in magnetic switches isn’t because of their dust proofing but for their increased bottom out stability.

So, Box stems = wrong. It’s Box Switches or Dust Proof/Walled Stems.

[snow yarrow]

Id say dustproof for he switches is just another pointless marketing point

Its useful on scroll wheel encoders, especially for mice with holes, increasing their longevity

[ripe nova]

really, why?

[cyan lark]

Language is a flexible thing, skibidi 🙂
TIL though!

[tawdry tree]

Box Switch vs Dust Proof/Walled Stems.

[snow yarrow]

He switches dont rely on anything mechanical afaik, so they dont benefit from being dustproof

But i might be talking out of my ass here

For scroll encoders, im pretty sure no1 failure point is dust/dirt getting inside the encoder

[tawdry tree]

That is true, but the correction came from Mr.MechanicalBionicle and Theremin. 👀

[little glen]

dustproof can help with long term smoothness i can imagine

[ripe nova]

wait so is there any difference if the wall in the second type of stems is full or not?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Dust Proof always was a moot point but for magnetic switches even more so. The only way the switch fails is if there’s so much dust/debris in the housing that you can’t press the stem down anymore.. 💀

[tawdry tree]

Like this you mean?

Or full like KoM POMs for example

No difference in naming, you could call one half-walled and the other full-walled but both are considered dust proof.

as the keycap stem blocks the holes:

[ripe nova]

but like, how much difference in stability?

[snow yarrow]

This reminded me of the kid that posted those pics with the insane amount of cheeto crumbs and hair in his board a couple of months back 😭 😭 😭

[tropic urchin]

I dont like polyfill as much in benom, it makes it sound weirder imo

[glacial wind]

Yeah this whole dust proof / box stem thing is just people worrying about being overly technical

Like Turing pointed out language is flexible and changes to include things over time

the general public talks about those types of switches as box stems so at this point it’s just all box stems even if in the past it wasn’t

[cyan lark]

If anything I do think this could stand a little foam if just to knock down the clack/overall volume, but the only thing I could make to fit it is butyl which I'm not sure I wanna go for.

[glacial wind]

it’s similar to the term magic arm or friction arms in cinema actually supposed to be specific to one particular type of arm but it eventually just became a general term for any of those sorts of adjustable arms

[tropic urchin]

did you get da gummy oring option

i was struggling to get used to the bounce

[cyan lark]

Nope this was a gasket mount TKL

No options, just a Drop kit

[tropic urchin]

I think i just need maybe softer plate and tougher option

ah

[sacred elm]

He has Biger lite benom

Time to do your discord quest and claim your benom avatar decoration @cyan lark

[cyan lark]

I'm all set thanks 🙂

I'm still waiting for y'all to join me

[sacred elm]

[sullen warren]

What switch should I get for a really thocky clean sound?

[sacred elm]

There is no "THOCKY" HE switch, but you might like UR Ice Ultra

Its a bit deeper than other options

[sullen warren]

Ok thank u

[untold wigeon]

get the pink ice ultra if u can

the sound is a bit more clean

[trail bane]

Ty shafie

[tawdry tree]

depends, walled stems kinda cheat their way into high stability as it’s not relying solely on the tightness between the stem and rails. Duhuks for example are really stable already despite not having a walled stem. In general though, all extremely stable switches have walled stems.

[sacred elm]

Benom animation doesnt work on pc

discord scammed me

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/get-on-overwatch-get-on-ow-get-on-overwatch-mercy-get-on-overwatch-mercy-gun-get-on-ow-mercy-gif-18232431039276207297

[tawdry tree]

When accuracy is easy I don’t mind changing how I refer to something like that, especially when it’s MB and the goat pointing it out.

[sacred elm]

Sorry overwatch is a myth 🥀

[solemn crescent]

I get a really weird pop sound when i pull my finger up from the key quickly is there any way to fix it

[tawdry tree]

which key?

[solemn crescent]

All

[tawdry tree]

then maybe your current switches aren’t for you?

or did you change something about the build and then it happened?

[solemn crescent]

I use sticky rice v2s and the only mods i have are tape and foam mod

[tawdry tree]

if you always heard this sound, it’s the switches

and you could try different ones

good luck getting sticky rices out though.. 😬

[solemn crescent]

Even with the base ones

Like the lekker ones

[little glen]

you dont want top out sound?

get duhuks

[glacial wind]

I think it’s not so much us that would have to change but the general public

How we refer to it barely matters if everyone else is just saying box stems for all of it

[solemn crescent]

Yeah

It really annoys me

[little glen]

get duhuks

[tawdry tree]

duhuks have a dampened top out but their bottom out is a lot louder and sharper

[solemn crescent]

Which ones

[tawdry tree]

you could use duhuk’s stem in the lekker V2 bottom housing, if you care to spend the time 😂

[tawdry tree]

maybe, not sure how common either is but I know “walled” is quite uncommon

dp is just shit tho

[glacial wind]

Yeah no one says dust proof except some manus

[solemn crescent]

Could i put some padding on them i dont really want to change switches

[tawdry tree]

it’s kailh’s fault people even starter calling it box stems

[glacial wind]

it’s similar to the whole socd snap tap thing

[tawdry tree]

you can’t really silence the top out

[solemn crescent]

😦

[tawdry tree]

unless you get other switches*

[solemn crescent]

What makes the top out sound

[tawdry tree]

I see MB’s and Goat’s point though, it’s incorrect to call them that

if accuracy is the goal which obviously for most people isn’t the case

but I care ;)

[tawdry tree]

the stem returning and hitting the top housing

[glacial wind]

Oh they are 100% correct in technical terms, just that public won’t care and box stem will continue to be used until it becomes actually accurate just due to widespread usage changing the term

[tawdry tree]

but there’s too little room to stuff any padding in between there without causing some major inconsistencies.

[solemn crescent]

So i could Frankenstein my key switches and change out the top housing

[tawdry tree]

maybe, maybe not. if manu’s refer to them as box stems, box stems will be the norm.

gateron calls them walled iirc

[glacial wind]

gateron says dust proof

[tawdry tree]

and kailh, ttc and some others dp

[tawdry tree]

then both

[glacial wind]

dust proof just never caught on much because it’s a weird awkward name

[tawdry tree]

actually, would you like an all around quiet switch?

[solemn crescent]

No not really

[tawdry tree]

you like the bottom out of the sticky rices?

[solemn crescent]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

alright, then no need to franken anything. just get duhuks and see if you like em

their bottom out will be a bit louder and sharper than that of the sticky rices

but their top out is dampened

[solemn crescent]

I listen to some sound tests thx

[tawdry tree]

Duhuk Core HE or Duhuk Point HE is the name of them

[solemn crescent]

Tysm

[sullen warren]

Hey does the wooting module come with foam or does the tofu redux 60% case come with foam?

[tawdry tree]

Both 👍

[sullen warren]

Ok good

[cyan lark]

Keyboards are fun

[little glen]

i can link some

#1342211699234832485 message and a few messages after without tape as well

[harsh jungle]

Double spacebar wooting 80he when?

I would sell my friends kidney for that

[thorn zealot]

the real question is where is 10u 60he

[tropic urchin]

not the worst thing ive ever seen

10 u >>>>>> having 4-5 side buttons on each side

[chilly mural]

I wanna try this

it looks nice.

[thorn zealot]

after they make 10u 60he then can make the HandHE

[sullen warren]

Anyone know where I could get a wrist rest that’s grey for the 60% tofu redux?

[thorn zealot]

is the black wrist rest from wooting close enough

[sullen warren]

It is but just checking my options

[cyan lark]

This is so awful 😆

[fringe quarry]

what the

windows key my favorite key

[chilly mural]

I don't remember using that key for a while

[cyan lark]

I use it maybe... once every day or two to launch something that isn't pinned to my taskbar

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[rich phoenix]

Just installed the WS stupids. Feel good. No ping. I did add a bit of grease on each pivot point though.

[tropic urchin]

dont give that guy that wants wooting glove80 anymore ideas

[sacred elm]

lol

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/powerglove-gif-7324368

[thorn zealot]

"wooting should stop making standard layouts and make ones only programmers care abt"

[cyan lark]

Where do I sign up

[tropic urchin]

Blove80

[cyan lark]

Wooting120HE

[sacred elm]

Blow80

[thorn zealot]

hopefully nowhere

the only ppl that prefer those ergo kbs over standard ones are programmers that have to use their kb like 8hrs/day

[cyan lark]

But we build stuff for you

[chilly mural]

standard MX is fine for that~ Not like regular programmer need SOCD and RT

[thorn zealot]

👍

[cyan lark]

But... we like gaming too

[chilly mural]

???

Just get 2 keeb for 2 stuff

[cyan lark]

No u 😄

[chilly mural]

Already done, I bought a $300 arcade controller

for 1 specific type of rhythm game

[cyan lark]

You get a leverless or something?

[chilly mural]

no, I got this

[cyan lark]

HA! That takes me back. My friend in college had a very similar pad

I can't remember which game he played but it looked very similar to the one you play

[chilly mural]

beatmania iidx

[cyan lark]

Yeah probably was beatmania. Whichever version was out in uh... '04

[chilly mural]

old, I'm not even in a womb that time

[cyan lark]

I guess it was probably just beatmania for the PS2

Ah was released in '06, still lines up

[fringe quarry]

switching programs, getting out of a fullscreen one, searching stuff, turning off pc and so on...

[chilly mural]

alt tab, I don't use full screen/alt tab, cursor to the bottom right, my pc don't sleep

[fringe quarry]

i prefer windows key to alt tab

you dont use full screen?

[chilly mural]

yeah, windowed at like 900p or 720p while playing game mostly to make my 32 inch behave like 24 inch and lower. The only time I use full screen is playing rhythm game but I barely alt tab during session.

Kinda makes me intrigue on dual mode monitor, 240hz 4k to 480hz 1080p with a reduced area on a 32inch screen sounds perfect to me.

[fringe quarry]

gotta put a 32 one very far away

when we seeing 1440p 480 and whatever the 4x of that is at lower hz

ah its 5k

would be perfect

[languid kestrel]

man my PC would be completely unusable without super and/or alt

winkeyless designs are fucking mad and 10u spacebar even more so

like yeah let's make the keyboard worthless

[fringe quarry]

real

although i dont need most of the keys on the right side of the spacebar

[chilly mural]

Right side, assuming I only type, I only need FN and CTRL key.

[random dagger]

What part of the ttc kom switch should i apply lube to?

[languid kestrel]

on the right I really only need altgr, ctrl I don't think I ever use on the right side and FN layer I also hardly use

[cyan lark]

I just lubed the walls of the stem

[random dagger]

They still sound a bit scratchy

[sacred elm]

They will sound plasticky no matter what

[stuck elbow]

where do i get clean keycaps? like this kinda for 80he, is there any brand who do it?

[random dagger]

stock ti he do sound plasticky but these still manage to sound plasticky even after lubing

lubed raw he's sound fantastic

[fluid ravine]

Mx is da weh

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[trail bane]

Ig you can find some clones on ali, but I don’t recommend them

[tropic urchin]

@thorn zealot ronin was handed to ups

[thorn zealot]

Gg it’s wraps

[thorn zealot]

Mmhmm

[tropic urchin]

Keycaps and new mouse starting next week W

[polar girder]

If you’re a keyboard nerd

But not for gaming nerds

[cyan lark]

Need a home for your old mouse?

[tropic urchin]

What mouse are you hoping to get

[sacred elm]

He has 20 old mice

[tropic urchin]

Being used might I say

Will not tolerate slander 🥀

Depending on how I like my Ulx, I’ll think about it @cyan lark

[cyan lark]

What's the new hotness that's arriving? Ulx... you finalmemeing?

[tropic urchin]

Wanted to try something different

[cyan lark]

Ain't nothing wrong with that

[tropic urchin]

Beastx pro is killing my pinky

[cyan lark]

Just how your hand sits on it?

[tropic urchin]

I can’t get it to not rest there and it felt like I had hand strain last night 💀

[sacred elm]

cursed

[tropic urchin]

Ulx Classic is same shape as DAV3 but lighter so I’m hoping the opticals feel as good as Beastx if so, I’m going to have to stick to that shape forever

[tropic urchin]

Yez yez back in home country we grow our hands to 20x10mm+

[sacred elm]

need my crazylight right now

[tropic urchin]

Iz how you escape balkans

[sacred elm]

real superlight is on the way