🔧│keyboard_modding

[little glen]

[fluid ravine]

Yeup

We're blessed today

He heard my call

Thank you Lord Beon

[little glen]

How is the wobble on these frankenswitches

Better than stock raws?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

Like duhuks

[little glen]

Nice

[fluid ravine]

Rawe have more horizontal wobble on the bottom out wobble

[little glen]

Idk if i want to swap tho i think i kinda like my duhuks

[fluid ravine]

So good improvement from duhuks

[fluid ravine]

I mean suit yourself

They're great as they are

[little glen]

Maybe i‘ll try it with some extras i have

[covert pelican]

acrylic case I bought on Taobao

[fluid ravine]

For sure

Can't wait to change back to The Thackson

Oo yknow what a funny name be

The Duhrawkson

"The-Rock-Son"

Heh my frakenswitch variant

Diss oneee

[little glen]

Duhuk top bottom raw stem?

What does that change

[quasi hinge]

Ordered, wish me luck lol

[harsh dove]

Godspeed brother

99.9% sure you'll get em lol

[harsh dove]

yessir

just removes the duhuk top out essentially

so if you don't like the muted top out but like the duhuk tightness and bottom out

[little glen]

Oh is duhuk top out just from the stem

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[little glen]

Interesting

[harsh dove]

it has a small leg on either side of the rails

and reduces the top out

but after awhile, I got tired of it personally

I just like the bottom out and tightness

[little glen]

When are you going back to duhuk + lekker

[harsh dove]

Haha that honestly wasn't bad

ngl

Felt nice and tight and sounded good

[little glen]

I guess next time someone joins chat asking for the best thocky creamy switch

[chilly mural]

Is there any sound test on Owlab's HE switch yet?

[little glen]

Or whatever their tiktok influencer of choice said

I can just tell em to make duhuk + lekker frankenswitches

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[chilly mural]

gimme link pls

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/vXarhtxJHKY

Thocky Creamy Deep Goodness

[chilly mural]

thanks

[chilly mural]

Sounds like a less clacky raw

[harsh dove]

Yeah lil bit

[little glen]

Closed bottom raw with duhuk wobble

[harsh dove]

Should have better tightness than RAWs too

basically same as Duhuks

or Jade Pros

although to me personally Duhuks felt tighter than Jade Pros but in magnet test they showed about the same flucuations

take that as you will

[chilly mural]

it's fine, as long as it's as good as raw in performance it's good enough to me.

[kind helm]

that sounds better than i remember

i remember hearing the owlab 60 + owlab switch setup on bilibili and it was pretty meh to me

[harsh dove]

I think I might remember that too but yeah this sounds a lot better

[kind helm]

maybe they adjusted the switch later

i want a pic like this for owlab ti

whats bro hiding

[harsh dove]

All I got for ya

[kind helm]

thats all i wanted

so completely closed :3

[harsh dove]

Yeah it's basically a duhuk

but non glass infused bottom

and no muted stem

[kind helm]

probably more like a jade pro then

i may just be a hater but this ugly

overcook

[harsh dove]

Yeah essentially , but like I said earlier, I personally felt like Duhuks felt a bit tighter

[little glen]

I think it‘s nice for some people

I dont like it personally but some people may enjoy it

[harsh dove]

Wish it didn't have a tab

otherwise I don't mind it too much

Tab almost looks removable

[kind helm]

i hope they hide the mechanic or make the design look a bit cleaner there

the bottom part

[harsh dove]

I feel you, I think they want it exposed

to show off the mechanism so to speak

[kind helm]

yea

[harsh dove]

lol

[kind helm]

i read the first part only.

glad we can agree hehe

the bounce is pretty noticible from this angle

[little glen]

Thankfully i have 2 other 60% cases

[glacial wind]

it'll sell insanely well at least in china

[kind helm]

i am still happy that i am the only one with tofu 2.0 here hehe. many people gonna have leggera in 2 to 3 weeks. despite how cursed my tofu is, it is somewhat.. somewhat unique.

[kind helm]

we gaming over there, we love gamer looks

[glacial wind]

owlabs design isn't for everyone but guaranteed it'll sell because that look has a large following

[little glen]

I dont like tofu

[harsh dove]

yeah not a fan of tofu design but I respect being unique

[little glen]

I want something in between the boring tofu design and the over the top owlabs design

[harsh dove]

and tbf I think your tofu looks good Josh

[glacial wind]

like in china i'm not even sure if you can buy it, that's how popular it is

[kind helm]

people probably gonna flip this thing left and right

[glacial wind]

nothing new. Look up prices of owlabs jelly epoch and owlabs vento

[harsh dove]

For $896

lol

[glacial wind]

it sells out instantly in raffles and gets sold for double the price before it's even delivered

that's how popular owlabs stuff is

[harsh dove]

Sounds like 5090s

get auctioned on ebay and sold for quadruple before it even releases

[uneven cradle]

Tofu is OG

[harsh dove]

yeah

just dated

[glacial wind]

there's a lot of collectors that will buy anything owlabs, especially this type of design because the jelly epoch was the case that blew up at start of mechanical keyboard trend becoming mainstream

[uneven cradle]

Mines in my cupboard somewhere

[harsh dove]

My tofu chillin with my switch towers

[little glen]

I would love to see opinions on gt60

[kind helm]

i want to steal visit this little museum.

[glacial wind]

i wish someone would just make a mode sonnet wooting edition

[harsh dove]

Mmh that’d be interesting

[glacial wind]

people try so hard to reinvent the wheel, just copy the design of the literal most popular design case ever and it'll sell like hotcakes

[harsh dove]

Yeah basically copy mx trends and bring them over to HE

And we all win

[chilly mural]

I wonder how many people put wooting there

[harsh dove]

I feel like with HE we’ve had to start from ground zero

We’re getting there though

[kind helm]

doubt it will be a lot of people for china, especially in 2025 when they have so many other options that are miles better in terms of both price and performance.

the wooting warranty from what i heard is not supported in china.

[glacial wind]

i guarantee a lot will

[uneven cradle]

I'll take whatever the stinga60 is

[harsh dove]

Someone find me 80HE PP plate pls

[uneven cradle]

I will win the raffle

[glacial wind]

i'm sure a lot will put other keyboards, but wooting is still incredibly popular in china

[harsh dove]

Know what bet Tom could make me one

[glacial wind]

especially with this being a wooting x owlabs collab

[kind helm]

i thought you meant singa and had a typo. there is actually a board called stinga?

[chilly mural]

Does this mean owlabs + 80he will exist?

[harsh dove]

Doubt

But idk

[uneven cradle]

Yeah Elaine's been working on it

[glacial wind]

they only said if it's popular they might do it in future but there's no plans to do it right now

[chilly mural]

alrighto

[little glen]

I mean

Seeing how well gt80 has sold

They might see the trend there and start work on it

[glacial wind]

keep in mind owlabs also has dedicated amount of time to other projects too

owlabs = qwertykeys

[kind helm]

pic or any info at all at this point, or it is a mystery for now...

[glacial wind]

the whole reason they scaled back on owlabs projects in first place was because they started focusing more on QK projects

[uneven cradle]

Pretty much know nothing about it aside from it's being worked on

[kind helm]

hope it goes well, always happy to see more boards, especially if they are good

[uneven cradle]

And presumably a stingray 60% kind of like the kohaku

[kind helm]

many gud things ahead hehe

[glacial wind]

this would sell so well as an 80he case

[little glen]

God damn that side profile

[harsh dove]

No long feet pls

gimme bumpons

I have long feet ptsd

[uneven cradle]

Na gimmi f1/f2 https://markerchun.com/geonworks-f284

[little glen]

Yeah this but short feet

[glacial wind]

f1 i think is less appealing to mainstream

geons designs are a little dated for mainstream. great sound but can be a little dated in certain colorways, his f2-84 was one of the best though imo in terms of design

[little glen]

Neo style case for 80he

that would be cool maybe

[glacial wind]

i just want my classy mode sonnet style case

[harsh dove]

I hope more 80HE cases come out

So far I’m happy with the GT80 tho

Don’t care for Bone80

[little glen]

Bone 80 looks weird

[harsh dove]

Only thing I like about it is the weight options

[little glen]

I am interested in holy80 but idk if i‘ll buy it

[harsh dove]

Wish gt80 had that like they said they would

[glacial wind]

it's good for me at least that mode hasn't made an 80he case, i told myself i'm spending less since this year is camera gear upgrade year already, so all my fun budget is already pre allocated

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah fair enough

Yeah I don’t have any crazy plans for keyboard stuff this year besides what I already have on the way so

[uneven cradle]

I also want to buy camera gear but I have spent it all on keyboards

[harsh dove]

If stuff pops up I’m interested in then I’ll of course check it out

[glacial wind]

i need to change up some lighting stuff too, so there's another $1k spent on upgrading light stuff

[harsh dove]

But as far as MX goes I’m not looking forward to anything besides my Protagonist

[little glen]

I am interested in neo60 core

[uneven cradle]

I still gotta wait for that import tax on my rubrejane to hit

[harsh dove]

Yeah kinda wish I pulled trigger on that but it’s fine

I’ll live

[little glen]

But i told myself i wont be spending much for the next few months

Gotta keep that promise

[kind helm]

uh huh sure sure

[kind helm]

already brought geon spring and duhuk after i said i was gonna quit

[little glen]

I did those

[kind helm]

my will power is -1000

[little glen]

And leggera

[kind helm]

once my reimbursement and tax return come in, i will have money for more keyboard stuff.

[little glen]

Then i was also looking at the oblotzky store cause he has a sale going on

Like 🫣

[harsh dove]

You gonna buy stuff for me

[little glen]

Cam is going to go back on his word as soon as something cool drops

[harsh dove]

Has to be like , really cool

[kind helm]

no you lar~ me income as (un)stable as my emotion la~

only thing that will stop me is the amount of space i have in my tiny apartment i think

that was the biggest reason stopping me from getting a leggera and another venom60he

where tf am i supposed to put it

[kind helm]

btw from one random guy, ultra has slightly worse factory lube than max. max only on like second hand market now, only ultra in store do you plan to get them ultra?

[sour blade]

does anyone know what board and Keycaps this is? asking because its NOT graystudio emonda gh60 like the title implies

and i dont speak korean and i did try to read the live translation

[ripe tulip]

time to get ur chocolates

[kind helm]

👀 the stream just started, i think the title is supposed to be the board hes building

i just saw him pulled out a box

[sour blade]

also its so strange cause they keycaps look darker than gmk eva round 1 OR 2

and neither r1 o r2 have Green + Red legends as a combo

[kind helm]

i think its some random chinese cap

:3 but i am almost always wrong

[sour blade]

maybe maybe

[kind helm]

kinda clean for 70 dolla

[sour blade]

yeah nice for themed

[little glen]

Purple nice

60%?

[sour blade]

yea

graystudio emonda gh60

[kind helm]

i think purple and green is supposed to be some weeb stuff

some anime

[little glen]

Ye

[sour blade]

yeah its evangelion

the keycaps on his table is "suppoed" to be gmk eva with berzerk alphas but its not

i was assuming the enter key was an artisan

its not because neither set has color like this

[austere creek]

but gmk evangelion has different tab and such

[sour blade]

yep

its different

yeah its def not gmk

wait im dumb

thats ​​GMK Shinseiki

it is gmk

i forgot gmk made 2 evangelion themed sets

CYL SHINSEIKI

[kind helm]

that enter do be special though

confused

[sour blade]

yeah no idea where the artisan is from

also guys

this question is those who dont own GMK fullmetal

what are your guy's opinions on the set above

asking because i own original eva set so this forever looks like a weird clone to me

[kind helm]

40% is truly for people who have lost their mind

also he built the Emonda GH60 but didn't even type it

[devout totem]

What about 30%?

[kind helm]

yeeee cardboard cool

nah layout insane

[snow yarrow]

Is this the pcb with 256k scan rate every1 talking abt

[sour blade]

his seperate enter key 💀

[real meadow]

would this be good for 3.5mm travel switches like the jades?

the stabilizer rocking and slight ticking (after manual lubing) is driving me crazy so i want to switch out the stocks

[glacial wind]

Sure, add in some geon stem spacers for $5 if you’re worried

[real meadow]

didn't know this was a thing

much appreciated

[real meadow]

uh this would be a fix for the stock 80he stabilizers?

[glacial wind]

i mean, you can fix any stabs with proper tuning, even the stock wooting ones - but if you want to buy other stabs then these are one of the best ones out right now

these and knight v2/v3 are the two most popular right now for newer stabs

[little glen]

I kinda wanna try those

So far only used knight v2

[real meadow]

so in terms of proper tuning, i've done just relube with 205g0 and dielectric grease, am i missing something?

[glacial wind]

balance the wire

[stone flax]

Wire balancing

[little glen]

I tried ordering the geon balanced wire but they were all out of stock

[glacial wind]

geon has prebalanced wires for typeplus now too in korea at least, although i've heard the typeplus are pretty forgiving with slightly crooked wires

[hollow lantern]

I'm a bit behind on switch releases - what are the best switches I can get for my Wooting 80HE?
Owlab Ti, Duhuk, or TTC POM?

[glacial wind]

depends on what you want out of switch

[little glen]

I tried balancing my wires but i always fuck it up and it ends up being kinda crooked in one direction or the other

[glacial wind]

owlabs ti and duhuk are non box stems, ttc pom is box stem

[hollow lantern]

Not a sharp sounding one for sure, Jade Pros were piercing my ears.

[glacial wind]

then try duhuk or go full silenced switch

[little glen]

Duhuk or if you dont like duhuk top out, duhuk with raw he stem (spring swap to geon pingless springs)

[glacial wind]

duhuk is dampened on top of press

[glacial wind]

if he finds jade pro too sharp then that won't work for him

[little glen]

Duhuk does have a sharp bottom out tho

Best to listen to some sound tests

[hollow lantern]

How are the TTC POMs? Considered sharp too? or less harsh compared to Jade Pros?

[glacial wind]

basically everything not silenced is going to sound pretty sharp, on same level or more

[little glen]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1342211699234832485 this thread has geon + duhuk sound tests with tapemod

[glacial wind]

way sharper

[little glen]

And duhuk without tape

I also posted some geon soundtests without tape before in this chat

[glacial wind]

honestly speaking none of the suggestions will fix your issue if you find jade pros too sharp, whether it's duhuk or ttc pom or owlabs

[hollow lantern]

Uh :/

[little glen]

I mean

[tall hollow]

To me the TTC KOM POMS have a very sharp sound.

[little glen]

Throwing in stuff until you like it

[glacial wind]

you'll have to go silenced like mathew or raeds

[little glen]

Is an option

[glacial wind]

he doesn't want sharp sound bottom out

[kind helm]

dont try to make them straight, try to make them sit evenly on one side and just use that side when you insert the wire to the stab

[glacial wind]

aka no closed bottoms

[little glen]

Lekker v2 + duhuk frankenswitch

Lekker v2 bottom + duhuk stem and top

[glacial wind]

ngl i think you're way overcomplicating his life lol

[little glen]

Absolutely

I just want to see people with weird frankenswitches

[hollow lantern]

xd

[kind helm]

send switches to bald boi

[glacial wind]

look up mathew silenced he switch

or try raeds

[kind helm]

high school kid has too much time in his hands

[tall hollow]

The good type of rubber dome

[little glen]

Look up lekker v2 duhuk frankenswitch

Someone posted them here before

Something something tik tok thock or creamy or something

[glacial wind]

keyz 100% going to tell a friend later "bro i tried to ask for help but they gave me 50 suggestions for these things called frankenswitches and i don't know what they meant after that"

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Tiktok marble!!!

[hollow lantern]

lol .. so if TTC POMs are out - Owlab TI sound less sharper?

[glacial wind]

nope

same sharpness

it's similar to jade pro

[hollow lantern]

OK, so at this point it's just the nature of HE

[tall hollow]

Nah, you just need silent switches is all

[glacial wind]

yeah, which is why I said if you want different you either go silenced he switch or raeds

[tall hollow]

And silent HE switches exist

[hollow lantern]

I don't want silent, I used Aqua Kings V3 for years and Cherry MX Reds and they were not that "silent"

[glacial wind]

so you want thock basically

[hollow lantern]

Yeah, if possible

[glacial wind]

not possible in HE, sorry

[stone flax]

Mx reds arent silent

[glacial wind]

raeds might be closest you can get

[hollow lantern]

Rip

[hollow lantern]

Yeah, I never said that I want silent 😄

[little glen]

Go lekker v2 + duhuk frankenswitch

[glacial wind]

leave the guy alone wizard lol

[hollow lantern]

Worth the hassle?

[stone flax]

no

[little glen]

Idk

[glacial wind]

no, he's memeing you

[stone flax]

get raeds or duhuks

bottom out still sharp on duhuks but top out is dampened

[little glen]

I mean listen to the sound test i linked

[glacial wind]

look up raeds on youtube honestly if you want a different type of sound

everything else in HE is very 'HE' sounding if you know what I mean

[stone flax]

Duhuks

[kind helm]

duhuk bottom sharper than my advisor's criticisms

[stone flax]

They taste good

[tall hollow]

PE switch pads help a little bit with the bottom out sound, but it has adverse effects on the analog output.

[hollow lantern]

I typically dislike these sound tests, because it never matches the real sound of the switches.

TTC POMs sound pretty good to me in the video wooting posted with the Zinc Alloy case.
But on the other hand you say they are very sharp sounding.

[glacial wind]

they are literally the sharpest switch you can buy so yeah.

[stone flax]

Id personally never consider anything between the pcb and switch

[kind helm]

true and the criticisms taste good too

but the guy doesn't want sharp bottom out i think :3

[stone flax]

Cuz they are sharp sounding

[tall hollow]

As someone who has the TTC KOM POMs in their 80HE, they are very sharp sounding.

[little glen]

You should only compare soundtests from one person to see how the switches relate to one another, never between people

Cause they have different setups/mic/desk etc etc etc

But if you have a sound test from one person that did duhuk and raw he

And another person that did raw he and ttc pom

You can kinda infer how pom will be in relation to the others

[hollow lantern]

Got it ... all I care about is the sound, so I can pleasantly use my kb without piercing my ears lol.
I am going to spring swap any switch I get to my favorite weight and length (18mm 50g).

[stone flax]

duhawk tuah

[glacial wind]

i mean, we can keep telling you to try raed he if you keep asking so that's about all we can do

there's soundtests from cam and others in this channel which you can compare to same soundtests from them for other things

[stone flax]

[glacial wind]

gothikx has very specific special requirements lol

[kind helm]

very specific

for hopefully a good programmer and a non toxic gamer.

[little glen]

What are those requirements haha

[kind helm]

personally think ipad would be the best board for him

[little glen]

[hollow lantern]

Raeds are out cuz I can't spring swap them.
Ig I'll have to live with that sharp sound for a while.

[austere creek]

you mean you could spring swap them but arent dedicated enough to do so

[quasi hinge]

Are you using factory plate?

[tall hollow]

Stock plate yeah

[quasi hinge]

Im using a cf plate

[fallen pecan]

ye you can, salvage them from used topre boards

[quasi hinge]

Raw vs ttc on cf plate

[tall hollow]

Ooh! Any difference?

[tall hollow]

Hmm

[quasi hinge]

First is ttc

[quasi hinge]

I think pom and cf go well

100% personal pref

[tall hollow]

Ah, I have the wooting collab TTC switches but only difference is color and spring weight.

[quasi hinge]

Yup!

Pom material is the key there I think

[tall hollow]

Oh deffo

[quasi hinge]

Like a more muted clack

[tall hollow]

I'd say it's a cleaner clack

It's deffo still pretty loud

[quasi hinge]

Yeah cant get around that lol especially with cf

Has no ping if alu or brass tho

[tall hollow]

True

[snow yarrow]

Can we get a disclaimer in the store that the poms need hand lubage, the difference is crazy and im not even a sound guy

The sound profile doesnt change that much, but it loses all the annoying characteristics, if that makes sense (imo)

[little glen]

It is technically factory lubed

[snow yarrow]

Can confirm this, they sound very bubbly after lubing

[little glen]

So could be that ttc insists that they are called that

Do remember that the sound will change slightly as the lube settles

[snow yarrow]

Ik but its just 3 tiny raindrop sized bits of lube at the bottom of the spring

[little glen]

It‘s when i would write down 2 sentences as my homework and tell my parents i had done my homework already

[tall hollow]

It sucks

It's three dots at the bottom of the spring, that's it

[little glen]

…

Please read the chat

[tall hollow]

Ooop

But still, they even feel dry

[little glen]

Of course

They are dry

At least they ship with enough lube, you just gotta spread it yourself

[quasi hinge]

I used raws and moved to og poms, they have been great. Found lekker 45s too light and lekker 60 to be too heavy (among other switches)

I think wooting ttc poms are around 55 and og poms are around 45 or 48

I dont have experience with both… someone here who has both may be able to help but I prefer lighter

To me they feel heavier but that could be placebo and it is more the stability that plays the part

I had accidental presses with the 45s

None with OG poms, I suspect the spring plays a part too

[fluid ravine]

[quasi hinge]

Closer to 50g raws if anything but just more stable and nice spring back

[peak breach]

I dont know if it’s due to the springs but i find myself often letting go of w

Do the raws have lighter springs than the poms?

[quasi hinge]

I think the springs are longer on the poms

[polar girder]

See I want this layout in Venom

Not my pic

Raws have diff spring weights

[kind helm]

👀 i thought you got your venom a while back

[polar girder]

I did

That layout not possible tho right

[kind helm]

oh right

the step cap

[polar girder]

I have raw 40g and l45 and I can tell the difference

So I would say so

[kind helm]

i didn't even notice hehe

[polar girder]

Right shift

But I’m also a light spring maxxer

[kind helm]

ahhh man i need to go to sleep soon

i cant see shi(f)t right now

[polar girder]

I think we’re stuck with that setup for right shift

Big sad

[kind helm]

i personally prefer it this way because i need my fn

i moved from 40 to 50 and it was noticeably heavier for like 1 day then its just normal to me.

[quasi hinge]

Not sure how to describe it but the Raws just feel more solid or refined

If lekker 45 was stage 1, Raws are like 7/8 and ttc poms are 10

Ex sound

[kind helm]

note it is still preference even though my preference is probably the best preference!

[quasi hinge]

And yes, slightly heavier bit they also feel better built

Im just talking pure stability

[kind helm]

v2 that bad? damn

[quasi hinge]

Only downside with poms is they gotta be lubed

[kind helm]

i thought v2 were okay

[quasi hinge]

Preference?

[kind helm]

i thought we talkin pure stability

[crimson sky]

yea but do you also need 2 alts, winkeys and controls?

[kind helm]

yes

[crimson sky]

do you actually use both winkeys

[kind helm]

the left ones are my actual alt, win, and control, the right ones are essentially my arrows

:3

[crimson sky]

so no

[quasi hinge]

Are they on par with the raws?

I barely used the V2s to be honest

[kind helm]

i remember people mentioning they were not bad but i dont have v2

[quasi hinge]

I think lekkers needs a rebrand

[kind helm]

ain no way i am wasting more of my money on wooting until they actually make something good

[quasi hinge]

The word lekker now makes me automatically want to replace something lmao

[kind helm]

well wooting was good in 2023 so money well spent at that time

[quasi hinge]

I love wooting dont get me wrong

Only brand that feels like home

[crimson sky]

small reminder that nobody complained about the switches in the apex pro

and people only wanted something better after wooting essentially allowed customization

[quasi hinge]

Wooting introduced me to keyboard modding

[kind helm]

wooting did one amazing thing, RT

thats it

[quasi hinge]

First 60HE was 30$ over selling price on ebay

Before wooting I would just buy stock crap thinking all you guys were living in fantasy land

[glacial wind]

that's like saying google only invented the search engine lol

[kind helm]

now we are all living in fantasy land

hehe

[crimson sky]

yea like

what other changes have we seen in keyboards that became kind of mainstream

since like 2012

[quasi hinge]

Reporting for duty

[safe stag]

pbt keycaps

[crimson sky]

💀

[safe stag]

or am I wrong

[crimson sky]

(I typed this on ABS)

[safe stag]

because I think it's a recent thing

[crimson sky]

no you are not wrong

eh

somewhat

has been around for a while, I got some early 90s boards with PBT caps

but I would not say that PBT is necessarily better

[safe stag]

still not all keyboards are pbt, but like he switch, this is something we'll see more and more

[glacial wind]

folks who heavily get into modding and specific settings and requirements can dislike wooting keyboards currently because it doesn't fit their newfound love and preferences, but it's just a different preference thing

[quasi hinge]

When I saw the optimum tech video, it changed everything

[crimson sky]

💀

[crimson sky]

I mean while wooting boards are not what I like exactly, I can still appreciate them

[glacial wind]

i meant more josh not really you

[crimson sky]

imo HE still is not at a level where I can make a great custom board

oh

[safe stag]

anti ghosting also

[quasi hinge]

Gotta admit they have a chapter in keyboard history

[crimson sky]

anti ghosting is so old

[quasi hinge]

Brought HE to mainstream

[safe stag]

oh really

[glacial wind]

he dislikes wootings now because it doesn't offer or tune towards the path he wants, but it's honestly just an apple vs android debate of what feature sets and aims do you require

[kind helm]

personally overpriced af, outdated af

:3

[crimson sky]

yea, like the decent mech boards around like 2010 already had it

[kind helm]

personally very personal opinion

[crimson sky]

I mean technically steelseries had theirs out earlier, they just didn't do much with it

[crimson sky]

not even

[glacial wind]

yeah and nothing wrong with that, but i think you and others sometimes forget that your personal opinion doesn't necessarily translate to everyone else with different requirements and wants

[crimson sky]

it's more of a "last years flagship is outdated" thing

while the new stuff might do slightly more it doesn't mean that the older stuff is bad

[little glen]

I do like my 80he

Very happy with it

But i am also ISO gamer so not many options

[glacial wind]

nah he dislikes wootings tuning direction of playing it safe with deadzone and such

[little glen]

And i dont really want to use 60% day to day

[crimson sky]

yea they don't want customers to have broken products

[glacial wind]

it's half the reason he'll post hinting towards it but never really outright say it because he knows it's a preference thing

[crimson sky]

with other companies I would not expect to get a fix either

[glacial wind]

yeah exactly. It's why I liken it to apple vs android with the walled garden on some settings and android allowing much more modifications/setting changes

different things for different people

[little glen]

IMO wooting should let users change it manually AFTER they open a special menu and tick like five boxes and have to accept that it may lead to accidental inputs

[kind helm]

its whatever mr sno, its just me being a dumb ass yapping at the end of the day i am not here to be a activist hehe

[safe stag]

I ended buying an ansi module after I bougth the iso one because we have basically 0 options with iso

[glacial wind]

i actually totally agree

[little glen]

Big red pop up

[glacial wind]

i think they should allow the niche settings with a warning box

[safe stag]

like the F7 menu in your bios "do wtf you want here"

[glacial wind]

although i do also think the people who use it will be very minority of people, i still think it'd be neat to mess around with

[little glen]

Eye tracking to make sure the user reads the disclaimer

[crimson sky]

I would agree if I didn't know that every other idiot will just mess up their board and then head straight to support

[little glen]

As i said

[glacial wind]

i sometimes wonder how many of the users wanting the super low settings actually understand how inconsistent it is to use in comp gaming

[little glen]

8 disclaimers and a thing that says "if you fuck up your shit, your bad, reset board"

[crimson sky]

or how little of a difference it makes

[crimson sky]

yea they would still head to support

[austere creek]

@quasi hinge sorry for that i think i broked the automod

[glacial wind]

like i've played around with them when testing he boards that allow it and it's actually awful to use in game. You accidentally strafe/unstrafe constantly

[austere creek]

you may ofc post channel and message links

[little glen]

Are you stopping people from posting links now

[austere creek]

no i accidentally broke the invite link automod

[little glen]

Ah

[kind helm]

i think some guy got timed out for posting a keeb pic

[thorn zealot]

So where’s mine eta

[kind helm]

someone was mentioning it yesterday

[little glen]

"I think my keyboard is broken!!!"

I did have issues with my wooting one using rapid trigger

[thorn zealot]

Me

[little glen]

Cause it would make some stuff borderline impossible with how wobbly the keys were

[quiet ginkgo]

what mod or role can i ping if i wanna get a hand on the Wooting Two HE case files so i can make my own custom case?

[kind helm]

wait yo that is hella fast

[quiet ginkgo]

or do any of you regular users have it

[little glen]

Holy ctrl? Not possible, keyboard says no

[austere creek]

anyone wanna try posting the link to a channel or discord message?

ill even let you keep the timeout

[crimson sky]

you can contact the public github

[austere creek]

ok idk what i broke

[kind helm]

LMAO

[crimson sky]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[little glen]

I tried linking your message tony

[austere creek]

oh i see im dumb thats what i broke

[little glen]

[crimson sky]

@quiet ginkgo that contains all 3d files that you should need

[quiet ginkgo]

thank you yeah i found them on that page

@crimson sky out of these two if i wanted to 3d print the case which would i choose ansi or bottomcase (my layout is ansi). first time trying to make a case

[little glen]

Why are you 3d printing a new case

[quiet ginkgo]

well ill use a website or a person that knows how to 3d print obviously i just want the correct file for what they will need

[crimson sky]

if anything bottomcase

[kind helm]

i assume you need both, case is the bottom part and plate is the thing switches are placed on

[little glen]

Did you break your case

[crimson sky]

you are gonna need one hell of a printer to fit that thing tho

[austere creek]

@little glen you wanna try your luck again

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[kind helm]

actually probably mainly just the case

[austere creek]

huzza

[kind helm]

maricle

[little glen]

Wait let me link something better

[quiet ginkgo]

you cant get custom case for wooting two HE and i want one like alumaze or the zinc one for the other keyboards wooting offers

[austere creek]

maybe a discord server invite?

[crimson sky]

it would unironically be cheaper to pay someone to design a new case and get it milled instead of getting that 3d printed in metal

[quiet ginkgo]

how much would that cost?

no need for an exact estimate

just a range

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[austere creek]

sadge

[crimson sky]

excellent question, expect a few hundred for design

[austere creek]

i hoped youd just post an invite link

[little glen]

Its a good clip you should watch it

[crimson sky]

and then like 2k for a oneoff that size

[crimson sky]

cost drop quick if you add more units

[quiet ginkgo]

lmao wtf

[glacial wind]

choose between a new car and custom wooting two he case

you may only pick one

[crimson sky]

3d printing that at that size out of metal would easily be 5 digits

if not more

[quiet ginkgo]

even if i find like a guy my friends/dad knows that can smith stuff?

[quiet ginkgo]

well i dont have a license

[glossy pagoda]

Tony is updating the Regex because of a new iteration of a scam link that bypassed the established version

[crimson sky]

not smith, cnc

[little glen]

If you know a guy at a metal shop you can try to get it cnc cut

[crimson sky]

not just cut, milled

you want more than just a cut plate

[little glen]

True

[crimson sky]

but cheapest usually is doing that in china

[glossy pagoda]

Oh I didn't scroll up, y'all were already working on it, carry on

[crimson sky]

if you wanna DIY, you can probably adapt the WASD metal cases

[little glen]

I mean

If you know a guy

It could be cheap

[crimson sky]

yea knowing a guy is always cheapest

[austere creek]

finished working on it*

[little glen]

But you gotta know a guy

[quiet ginkgo]

thats what i meant haha i just didnt know the terms for what is used to do this stuff

[crimson sky]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

as a "cheap" option

you just need to dremel out a few parts

and buy an (ideally broken) used WASD board

to modify the plate a bit

[crimson sky]

I wanna add, you don't want to mill the files from wooting

[quiet ginkgo]

link doesnt work for me (infinite loading) but thanks maybe ill try that option cuz im not broke but im not enough into this to wanna spend over like 1k

[crimson sky]

since those are made to be injection molded

so a lot of features are not able to be milled or quite expenisve

• would need modification for threads

and then extra modification so it doesn't short everything

[glacial wind]

yeah 1k definitely not possible

there's way too much work you'd need done to get a 1 off case made for $1k

[little glen]

Honestly finding a different case and using that instead could be possible

[quiet ginkgo]

Hmmm well my aunt owns like a house/furniture design firm or is at least big part of it, you think she could make a design for the case if i give it to her? she would probably do it for free

for the milling part she probably knows someone that can do it specifically for me for quite cheap

[crimson sky]

house and furniture design is different from keyboard design

[quiet ginkgo]

im just assuming since she uses those softwares like AutoCAD and PRO100 either she can try to do it or knows someone that also uses those but for keyboard stuff

[crimson sky]

ok wasdkeyboards is out of business

[little glen]

Do you think it could be possible to use the intro s100 case with the twohe (assuming you modify plate and all that

[crimson sky]

nope

spacings are wrong

[little glen]

Probably not

[crimson sky]

at least I think so

[kind helm]

imma assume the thing in the middle is the db

[crimson sky]

yea

ah wait

nvm

for I second I thought it had a magnetic connector

but the S100 has a PCB mounted assembly

[kind helm]

oh yea then its really specific pcb only :3

[crimson sky]

nvm it does

yea

[kind helm]

the words were right above the screenshot i took

i really should head to bed

holy fck...

[crimson sky]

the seal might work better

[quiet ginkgo]

so excuse my noobness

but if i could (i know its not possible) straight up copy that plastic pasrt or whatever the keycaps are sitting on

and the pcb is inside off

[crimson sky]

?

[quiet ginkgo]

do i still need to order a custom pcb too

[crimson sky]

the 2he got a metal plate if you mean that

[quiet ginkgo]

yeah

that plate case

whatever

everything besdies switches keycaps and pcb

[crimson sky]

so the case

[quiet ginkgo]

if i copy just that but like make it work and look the same different material

do i still need a new pcb

[crimson sky]

the top plate is no issue, that is just a simple 2d cut and a bend

no you want the same PCB

otherwise you can't use wooting features

[quiet ginkgo]

sorry bro switching keycaps is the most i've ever done before for a keyboard

so im kinda clueless

you guys with your cns milling and other terms

i just wanna make sure you get what im talking about lol

[crimson sky]

there was some weird german laser guy that was trying to make that

don't think much came of it outside of one proto

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

last update was almost exactly a year ago

[stray tiger]

Damn my leggera arriving tomorrow. That's some quick shipping

[quiet ginkgo]

i think i dm'ed that guy on reddit hoping he was done with his stuff a few months ago lol

but i guess he gave up or is still trying and not getting it to work

[glacial wind]

nice. I was wondering why geon said 1-2 weeks to ship on his page, normally it's always 1 business day to ship

i guess he was just playing safe

[stray tiger]

Yeah seems like. I was fully expecting 2 weeks this time

[crimson sky]

1 business day to where

or do you mean lead time

[glacial wind]

yeah lead time

it's normally always you order then it'll be shipped the next day with geon

[crimson sky]

do we know when the pesante is gonna go on sale

I kinda have to pick one up since it is so stupid

[crimson sky]

yea he's quick

[glacial wind]

that's a good question actually, i never even looked at the date for pesante

[crimson sky]

mmh, looks like there is no date for it atm

[tropic urchin]

Ali needs to deliver my silver CF plate smh

[crimson sky]

silver CF?

[fluid ravine]

Same

[fluid ravine]

Hehee

[glacial wind]

that is very sparkly

[chilly mural]

mmm, Carbon Fibre

[crimson sky]

how do they make it that silver lol

is it just pigment in the resin?

[tropic urchin]

I need to see if RGB is still mud or not

[kind helm]

so emmm... how many orings you plan to try?

[tropic urchin]

Kinda looks like snake skin almost looks sick

[kind helm]

thankfully it is super ez to swap

unlike my cursed tofu...

[fluid ravine]

I want to try 4

[fallen pecan]

apparently cf plates have worse tolerances compared to their fr4 counterparts

if you get the morkblade premium model that comes with a cf plate as stock, you get misaligned stabs free of charge

[quasi hinge]

Happened to me to

[quasi hinge]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1332419975889289316

Allowed me to build my passion piece

I am forever grateful for wooting bringing a board worth putting the effort into

[crimson sky]

I am talking about the firmware tho

[quasi hinge]

Combine the magnetic Hall effect with the alleged anti gravity propulsion systems

[quasi hinge]

Man its good enough

And getting better

Also preference

Wooting living rent free in your head?

[crimson sky]

had to think if it was bob lazar in prey 2006

but that was art bell

[quasi hinge]

Respect

[quasi hinge]

New doc coming out

Project graviteur

Rogan interviewed him too… his most watched episode

[crimson sky]

ngl

having art bell in prey was genius

(also he sounds like space ghost )

[fluid ravine]

Shall I stream leggera tomorrow

[quasi hinge]

If art bell could have lived to see the trailer for ‘Age of Disclosure’

[kind helm]

@ me

i know you got your whole thing setup now

[fluid ravine]

That's yes

[kind helm]

I saw your recordings

[fluid ravine]

Hehe

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

Wish I could do a top down view like cam and Pops but I can't really do that with a tripod and a phone

[kind helm]

maybe we catch bald boi malding live because the spacebar is fcked

that will make my evening tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

DON'T JINX IT NOW

[tropic urchin]

Homie gonna drive up north and use you as his indentured recording servant real quick with that comment

[quasi hinge]

Strings with thumb tacks on your ceiling lol

[tawdry tree]

every once in a while I get a ton of switches with the help of Imoshi, he already got the ultras for me as well

[quasi hinge]

https://youtu.be/DFu_pm2ga4Q

[tawdry tree]

worst that can happen is the board doing it’s own thing but that can be prevented to some degree with firmware as others have done.

[quasi hinge]

looool

[quasi hinge]

And great warranty

[stone flax]

I just rest the phone on top of my monitor

hehehe

[quasi hinge]

We got a thinker

Id do the same

[stone flax]

it works :3c

[tepid jay]

What stabilizers are best for the wooting 80he

[stone flax]

The ones it comes with

[tepid jay]

I've heard a lot of people say otherwise

[ionic breach]

got damn

[stone flax]

how so

[ionic breach]

what sets are those

[stone flax]

jcs tulip with mint accents

[ionic breach]

nice

didnt know it had accents

[quasi hinge]

Nice keebmat

Got one for the non wooting

[stone flax]

[stone flax]

ya it kinda goes with anything

[quasi hinge]

Yeah lol

[stone flax]

This is the icon mod version

[quasi hinge]

My wooting has two hayate otsu so keebmat is redundant

[stone flax]

woah

[quasi hinge]

Got the new larger one and move the old one to the left

[stone flax]

ooooh

The strat

[quasi hinge]

With their powers combined, they created a larger keebmat 🤪

[stone flax]

I used to do that

I got a hien in

and moved the tang dao to the left

[quasi hinge]

Should I try raiden?

[quasi hinge]

It works

[stone flax]

hehehe

[stone flax]

If u want fast uncoated cloth low static and smooth then yesh

[tropic urchin]

Now you need to convert to raiden hehe

[quasi hinge]

Nice taste

Mine are both black

Only pic I got rn, out getting something

[tropic urchin]

The little notice reminds me of my old L and XL otsu duo haha

[fluid ravine]

Are you gonna stream Pops?

[quasi hinge]

Basically what it is but hayate

[tropic urchin]

If you do get one try the orange Raiden variant for diversity

I heard their texture varies slightly but worth trying

[quasi hinge]

Prefer black

Works with the planetary travel and all

[tropic urchin]

With no light everything is black ✨🫡

[quasi hinge]

It will reflect when gaming

I dont just sit there and stare and my wallpaper lol

Although I really should install that space game traveling planets

But the alpha got wrecked, forgot the name

[tropic urchin]

Guess you will have to settle for mildly off black default

[cyan lark]

I don't see why you wouldn't 🌌

[quasi hinge]

I do actually sometimes

Music on with open backs

Chat here or elsewhere

But it gets bright during gameplay

I also turn most of the blue light filter off to 20/30% when gaming

Normal is 70%

#1332419975889289316 message

Especially this one

Ty japanese german

[fluid ravine]

Oh fug I have a volleyball game tomorrow I just realized

FAK, night stream on a school week

Ya boi is having a headache in CS rn

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/living-on-the-edge-gif-11144740

[fluid ravine]

Type shii

[tropic urchin]

It’s too fun to say

It’s like a nervous tick to end your sentences

[fluid ravine]

Type shii

I mean im doing it on purpose so

At least it's not like "sKiBiDi SiGmA rIzZ" or some shit brain rotted kids would say like out of no where

[sweet oak]

GYAATT

[tropic urchin]

That shit is the lamest shit I’ve ever heard for new age slang

[cyan lark]

At some point you blur the line between being a mush brain and ironically being one

[tropic urchin]

Bastardization of the English language type shii

[cyan lark]

But also, type shii rizz gyatt skibidi brain tech

[glacial wind]

Just put the fries in the bag lil bro

[sacred elm]

aura farming type shii

[cyan lark]

Big yikes bruh, don't crash out

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

What that mean again

[cyan lark]

Keeping this fit dank while glazing my looksmaxxing queen

[glacial wind]

Caught sleeping fam

[sweet oak]

Cease your tomfoolery you hooligans, pick up your blades for the crusade begins

https://tenor.com/view/yesraina-gif-19041696

[cyan lark]

Touch grass sussy baka lest you get ghosted by these jits with the fits. Lit. :bongo:

[glacial wind]

https://tenor.com/view/i-believe-i-know-what-you-are-saying-butters-south-park-you-know-what-i'm-saying-gif-1186925192078888037

[tropic urchin]

Only if Witcher 4 flops

[tropic urchin]

When Shakespeare is easier to read than modern day slang type shii

[cyan lark]

I'm just learning, and with each new term I learn it feels like I've ingested a little bit of poison.

[tropic urchin]

Too real

[unkempt storm]

hi, I'm new to keyboard modding and just spent a long Sunday afternoon putting together my 80HE, including lubing the MATHEW Silents. I'm mostly happy, a couple of keys need some further lube but I can handle that.
However, the spacebar is so high pitched and loud!
I tried blutac in the spacebar cavity, which does get me to a sound I like, but it's too heavy for the switch and completely changes the feel.
What options do I have?

[cyan lark]

A bit of foam inside the spacebar keycap may help

[unkempt storm]

any kind of foam?

[sacred elm]

spacebar foam

costs like 2$

[cyan lark]

I use car sound dampening foam (Kil-Mat), but you can also buy dedicated foam for it e.g. https://kbdfans.com/products/spacebar-foam

[unkempt storm]

thanks

[glossy pagoda]

Enough of this puerile buffoonery, you incorrigible rapscallions! Unsheathe your tempered steel and adorn your heraldry with due reverence, for the grand and hallowed crusade is upon us!

[cyan lark]

Hear hear!

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/monocle-top-hat-cat-gif-10858322

[tropic urchin]

Somehow this is easier to understand than Gen A brain rot slang 🤣

Regression of the English language is a helluva drug

[glossy pagoda]

Insta ban

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Shafie did you just post that essay again

[sacred elm]

ye

[tropic urchin]

Holy whiplash

[cyan lark]

My pupils are fully dillated shafie

[sacred elm]

brainrot essay

[tropic urchin]

I’ve never seen anything just get absolutely yeeted in real time

[sacred elm]

I deleted it

Mods are slow

[cyan lark]

Man I shoulda invested more in keyboards instead of losing so much in the stock market.

[tropic urchin]

It’ll go back up like it usually does 🤓

[cyan lark]

I'm sure it will and I don't need it right now, but I do feel for those that do.

[tropic urchin]

waiting for more $ to buy the dip hehe

[cyan lark]

The keeb dip

At least there's some comfort in knowing I locked up my investment in Motif while we were riding high

[tropic urchin]

That is a diabolical combination but I respect it

Nothing looks like it should go together but that’s part of the charm

[stray tiger]

Its like a colorful version of GMK Greg

Or I should say it invokes the same feeling

[tepid jay]

Long vs regular stabs do they matter for the lekker 60 v2?

[stray tiger]

Its switch and keycap dependant but in 95% of the cases, no it doesnt matter

[fallen pecan]

Aifei, 79 rmb

[tepid jay]

I'm trying to mod the 80he; it will be my first time, and I'm getting the whole deal, even going to lube the switches. I'm keeping the standard keycaps that came with the keyboard along with the Lekker 60 v2. Would you suggest regular or long?

[stray tiger]

Regular! Do not get long pole

[thorn zealot]

Reg stabs

[tepid jay]

Appreciate it.

Any particular stabs you would recommend?

[sacred elm]

stock

[tropic urchin]

I think the TKL version completes it more but I could be biased

[tepid jay]

The shipping is what's killing me every single time as well as the conversion price lol

[sacred elm]

why are you changing stabs

[tepid jay]

Why not

[sacred elm]

you can just lube stock stabs and it will be as good

[tepid jay]

I'm modding the keyboard why not get better stabs

[sacred elm]

there is nothing wrong with stock stabs and if you tune it, theyre as good as others

[tropic urchin]

wtf

Those are crazy

[polar girder]

Ay yo

[little glen]

Gold plated

[polar girder]

I’m in love

[tropic urchin]

Holy

[little glen]

[polar girder]

Prob not HE ready tho

[fallen pecan]

jade max springs are gold plated as well

they just dont sell em separately

[polar girder]

Speaking of gold plated

I created a masterpiece.

[tropic urchin]

Gold stab wires

[polar girder]

I realized my clear one had the gold wires so I just swapped them lol

About to package up this Wooting and get it sold.

Force my hand to lube the switches for Venom and get it going

[stray tiger]

Yes, please use HE springs only

[stray tiger]

Stabs are stabs for the most part. Taking your time to lube/tune the stock stabs (or even the cheapest stabs) can often times have them sounding and feeling better than the most expensive stabs on the market.

@harsh dove our next game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzAtYaSYZms

[tepid jay]

I just find the space bar has a little rattle to it anyway. Would rel-lubing it fix that?

[tropic urchin]

Is it leaving EA phase????

[marsh saffron]

Relube + tune them

[tepid jay]

What does tune them mean?

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[marsh saffron]

The video here is what I followed

[forest jacinth]

best stabilizers 🙏 my spacebar sounds dookie

[marsh saffron]

Mine sounds amazing

Still on stock plate mounts

[quasi hinge]

Havent seen these

[polar girder]

Yo should I just toss these diffusers or what?

God I hate the diffusers already

I’m somehow already missing two lol

😵‍💫

[tropic urchin]

I think Arc didnt even bother with is diffusers

he just used without for all

[polar girder]

Yeah I’ll probably go that route lol

PITA

@calm pulsar any change feel/sound no diffusers for POM?

This switch cracker is goated tho

Thank god for that

[safe sphinx]

is the jade pro the best switch for the price

[polar girder]

Duhuk probably best price/performance I think

[sacred elm]

https://swagkeys.com/products/owlab-ti-he-switch?variant=46115894755581

get this

[quiet ginkgo]

wish i could have that base pink then the purple would be a bit darker and replace all the default ones as well and I could easily or at least not so costly make a good looking case for the 2he

[glacial wind]

yeah depending on shipping for you owlab switch might be the one for price vs performance

[polar girder]

Hmmm

Someone got these?

They look just like the rest lol

[sacred elm]

Its basically duhuk/raw stem frankenswitch, that cam and others made

[glacial wind]

yeah few folks. It's basically duhuk but without the whole glass infused thing and no dampening top that some folks didn't like

[sacred elm]

yea

[polar girder]

So a raw?

[sacred elm]

improved raw

[glacial wind]

yeah think of it as better raw with fully closed bottom

[polar girder]

Oh right

Ok solid

[glacial wind]

and it's very cheap too

[polar girder]

Thanks

Yeah not bad

[sacred elm]

coffee switches

[quiet ginkgo]

does wooting 80he have cases available on other sites? like different colors (still made of some alloy/metal) at least?

or is it just the 60 that is most custom

[sacred elm]

kbdfans gt80

[quiet ginkgo]

oh thats awesome

so if i were to get that all I would need from wooting that is absolutely requried is just this right

the module

the rest keycaps and compatible switches i can get from somewhere else

[sacred elm]

Yea

[quiet ginkgo]

yay

[sacred elm]

and a plastic case

[quiet ginkgo]

wdym

[safe sphinx]

nopt able to ship these to uk

[quiet ginkgo]

didnt you just send the case

[sacred elm]

yea plastic case comes with daughterboard, or you can get daughterboard from kbdfans but it costs like 6$.

[quiet ginkgo]

oh

[quiet ginkgo]

oh thanks

[glacial wind]

You get cable too with the $10 case add on

So honestly get the cheapie case with the module

[sacred elm]

Yea its better to order plastic case + module, youre getting daughterboard, cable and a case

[tropic urchin]

GT80 case on top 🫦

[stray tiger]

Cam and I ordered some and they shipped last night I think

[quiet ginkgo]

yeah ill do that

[glacial wind]

Yeah even if you don’t use the plastic case in the end, it’s still $10 for daughter board and the 8k capable cable which is great pricing

[sacred elm]

which switches are you getting