🔧│keyboard_modding

[austere creek]

interesting tech though

[half hill]

Needed help to select the switches, case(possibly something which is as tall as the optimum, steep and heavy which also has a good mounting for good sound quality basically), plate, stabilizers, foam and dampening materials, and also have rgb.
Wanted it to sound something like this:
edit: I am new to keyboard modding.

[fallen pecan]

This is a way better implementation of the tech

[tawdry tree]

a non working mp4 to webm

[stone flax]

if only i could see this

[fallen pecan]

dunno why it wasnt embedding the mp4

[tawdry tree]

discord 😃👍

[tawdry tree]

but.. but. Ducky was the first induction board!

fake vid, fake news

[ripe karma]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-eat-popcorn-gif-18371747125248355478

[half hill]

Can someone please help me finding a case which has spring leaf mounting and can be used to mod the wooting 60he

[languid kestrel]

the salvation I believe

[half hill]

Not available

B stock apparently

[ionic breach]

everything usualy have multiple vendors

[little glen]

can find used if you want

b stock is fine

i had no issues with my b stock

or you can probably find another vendor for it

[half hill]

Apparently b stock means randomly selected coloured cases

[ionic breach]

[half hill]

Wait what?

[ionic breach]

the gamba is a seperate thing

[little glen]

b stock means it has some small defect

the salvation b stock does come in random color

but in general b stock means something else

[half hill]

Yeah

[little glen]

so far everyone that bought the b stock was happy with the color that i know of

[little glen]

of course you can be unlucky

but you can also find it new probably

itll just be way more expensive

[half hill]

I specifically want the black colour tbh

Does it sound much better?

Compared to tofu60/optimum?

[languid kestrel]

define better

[half hill]

Clickier

[ionic breach]

things like this means b stock

[languid kestrel]

probably sounds exactly the same tbh

[kind helm]

[tawdry tree]

Clacky is what you’re looking for.

[half hill]

@tawdry tree thoughts?

[tawdry tree]

Clicky is something else.

[tawdry tree]

Obviously not.

[half hill]

This is clacky?

[tawdry tree]

Leaf spring is far more consistent than tray

not even comparable really.

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[half hill]

Oh yes then I am indeed looking for this

[kind helm]

but but but the pcb is screwed to the leaf spring like tray

[little glen]

thats like a deep quiet clack

[tawdry tree]

TRUEEEE

[half hill]

How do you get that effect

[little glen]

dampening

[tawdry tree]

all tray is the same

[little glen]

look man just get a board and a case and start playing around with mods until you like it

we cant tell you what you will enjoy most

[half hill]

Needed help to select the switches, case(possibly something which is as tall as the optimum, steep and heavy which also has a good mounting for good sound quality basically), plate, stabilizers, foam and dampening materials, and also have rgb.

[little glen]

you can try tape mod, all kinds of foams in all kinds of places, different filling materials, different switches/keycaps/plate

[half hill]

So to achieve that kind of sound what should I be getting

[little glen]

get raw he or ttc pom switches, salvation case, fr4 plate, any decent stab, different foams to try them all and thats about it

find some keycaps you like

try out tape mod to see if you like it

[half hill]

Jade pros?

Also I like these keycaps:

https://curiositycaps.in/products/wave-of-kanagawa-version-pattern-shine-through-oem-profile-imd-tech-keycap-set

so I’ll need rgb switches for this

[tawdry tree]

jade pro and something like neo lavenders are more of a deep clack

[little glen]

any of the popular HE switches are rgb compatible

[half hill]

Oh alright

So jade pros or ttc rgb magneto?

[little glen]

NO

POM

[tawdry tree]

you want as loud as possible so TTC KoM POM.

[chilly mural]

Pipo Pipo Pom Pom

[half hill]

Will I achieve the sound I want using Pom or jade pros?

[tawdry tree]

^?

[tropic urchin]

Was the video you posted the ROG Azoth max?

[half hill]

Yh

[kind helm]

its always a surprise, something pleasant sometimes not

[half hill]

Extreme

[half hill]

You said jade pros will give me the sound I wanted tho

[reef oar]

jade pros >

[tropic urchin]

Okay, I had the Rog Azoth moonlight so the version before and had a nice time with Jade pros, but I think POM are a better choice (will be louder than both pros and extreme)

[tawdry tree]

Reread what I said. You sent two sound tests you liked, the first was more akin to Jade Pros and Neo Lavenders but you said as loud as possible.

It’s either or.

[kind helm]

your lord has betrayed you and embraced ttc pom

[tropic urchin]

But pick between pros, RAWs and POM imo for the marbly clack switches

[chilly mural]

Geon raw all day everyday

[kind helm]

raw is not marbly

[reef oar]

blasphemy.

[tawdry tree]

wall of shame right away

[half hill]

So Pom is basically like jade pros but on sarms?

[reef oar]

@tropic urchin explain yourself

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-dayum-martin-gif-9907495

[tawdry tree]

POM = Deaf
Jade Pro = Clack
Neo Lavender = Deep Clack

[tropic urchin]

Tried POMs out of curiosity and can’t go back. There I said it

[half hill]

Deaf?

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t suggest Neo Lavenders, rather Everglide Magneto or Skylines

[half hill]

Is it that loud?

[tawdry tree]

Yes you.

When you use them.

[tropic urchin]

It’s louder than Jade pros, but they’re not deaf loud

[half hill]

Damn I like it that way

[tropic urchin]

I can drop a test @half hill

[half hill]

Sure sure sure

[tropic urchin]

Using zinc + FR4 and POM

[half hill]

Yeah appreciate it

[tropic urchin]

I also have Jade pro too

If you wanna hear

[half hill]

So for the type of sound I want

Fr4 is the best?

Or is there anything better?

[tawdry tree]

I died, ty.

[tawdry tree]

CF

even louder.

[little glen]

fr4 is good middle

[tropic urchin]

Think of FR4 as a balanced plate (between thock and clack, has some flex). CF plate is for max clack, but kills your RGB

[tawdry tree]

It is

[half hill]

People said me not to take cf tho

[half hill]

This is too sharp

[tropic urchin]

For raeds enjoyers you could say that 🤣

[tawdry tree]

idk what that sentence means

[tawdry tree]

😭

[tropic urchin]

Think you’ll like Jade pros then

The stem wobble between the two isn’t close, so I can’t go back anymore

[half hill]

Can you send me a test video

Only if you don’t mind that is

[vestal tiger]

are pom the best marble calcky sound?

when will wooting sell them

[thorn zealot]

Just get raws/jade pros and stuff ur kb with foam

[tawdry tree]

Wouldn’t say marbly, loud clack.

[tawdry tree]

Later this week I think.

[little glen]

thats what i said

[half hill]

When will they sell jade pros

[little glen]

just stuff it with different foams until you like the sound

[tawdry tree]

Probably never

[tropic urchin]

@half hill This is Jade pros on FR4

[tawdry tree]

but you get can jade pros off of ali

[little glen]

you can find jade pros on plenty of online stores

[tawdry tree]

for cheap

[half hill]

Pom it is

[tropic urchin]

You wanna hear on CF plate for Jade pros or nah

[half hill]

Yeah

[thorn zealot]

Thought u just said poms were too sharp sounding

[little glen]

do you have it on pc plate too just for completion sake

[tropic urchin]

@half hill

[tawdry tree]

Indecisiveness 😅

[half hill]

Yeah nah it is but jade pros sound so dog wth

[thorn zealot]

??

[half hill]

It means jade pros don’t sound that good

[tropic urchin]

Sound tests won’t tell the whole story as it varies on setup, will sound different irl. I thought POMs would be a lot louder but they’re a nice volume imo

[half hill]

I just need like a clean sound

[thorn zealot]

Yes I can read English

[half hill]

Mb bro

[thorn zealot]

So just get poms and stuff with foam

[little glen]

yeah

[half hill]

Yeah

[little glen]

[half hill]

Plate?

[polar girder]

Yes you need a plate

[little glen]

just stuff it with foam or poly fill or something else

[half hill]

And stabilizer?

[little glen]

knight v2 are good

[polar girder]

Why you using so few words to communicate

[tawdry tree]

Stock is fine.

[polar girder]

So confusing lol

[little glen]

stock is fine

[cyan lark]

huh

[thorn zealot]

Just keep everything stock, get poms, and stuff with foam

[polar girder]

Cemal is like talking in half sentences

[thorn zealot]

Simple

[cyan lark]

Was trying to do it too and failed T_T

Whatcha putting together my dude?

[tropic urchin]

Take the mantle as the main ambassador for I am no longer worthy of the position

[half hill]

I just feel like whenever you write something using smaller sentences it’s easier to get the solution because you get to the problem, step by step

[reef oar]

Farewell.

[polar girder]

Except for when everyone thinks you’re asking something different and doesn’t compute

But yeah whatever works

[half hill]

Fair enough

[little glen]

but yeah just get whatever switch looks cool and sounds ok to you, get a decent case like salvation and stuff it with foam until you like it most

[half hill]

So which plate should I be choosing though? Is there any comparison video on YouTube talking about the difference?

[glacial wind]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-why-waste-time-few-word-gif-8100952

[little glen]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[high sphinx]

@little glen what plate u using for the salv again ?

[little glen]

i tried both alu and fr4

i think i like fr4 a little more

[high sphinx]

and what u like best ?

[little glen]

i did a sound test 1 sec

[cyan lark]

It's preference, and yes there's a lot of videos comparing plate materials.

[little glen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s the thing. It has to do the trick lol

[tropic urchin]

Shitty TL;DR Softer/more flexible plates will result in a more muted/thocky experience, stiffer plates/not as flexible brings out more clack

[polar girder]

Yeah if you want louder brighter clack, go CF, Alu or FR4. If you want softer lower “thock” go PP, PC, POM or nylon

[tropic urchin]

If you think POM with FR4 is too sharp I’d look at the range before FR4

[high sphinx]

both sound good tbh i am also gonna have my salv soon and also a frog mini so i have to do some playing around haha

[half hill]

2nd one, aluminum sounds so good

[little glen]

thats just no foam straight alu plate and geon raw he

on salvation case

[half hill]

Geon raw he vs Pom?

[glacial wind]

honestly this is getting way overanalysed at this point

[little glen]

pom is more stable but raw he is cheaper and has different sound

[glacial wind]

Just keep the stock plate, and pick switches you like

[little glen]

yeah i will try with poly fill too maybe

[thorn zealot]

Please

[little glen]

yeah just start off with stock plate and you can play around after

[high sphinx]

nice nice i am planning to try the frog mini with fr4 and the ttc poms that wooting is gonna release

[little glen]

keyboard modding is fun anyway

[half hill]

I’m new to this so I might be asking stupid questions

[little glen]

look man, the best part of the hobby is that you can just try out different options until you dial it in exactly how you like it

no need to overthink it when you havent even listened to it yourself

[glacial wind]

The problem is folks are trying to give you basically the Michael Jordan 360 dunk tutorial when you’re still not even touched a basketball yet - if that analogy helps

What you need is to just start small, pick switches you like and you’re basically good for a start

[little glen]

recordings and sound tests will only ever get you so far when different aspects can change things completely that are non keyboard related (recording equipment, sound environment, desk, your headphones)

so just try things out and see how it sounds and feels in person

[half hill]

Ok last question, what are your thoughts on gasket mount and spring leaf?

[thorn zealot]

Better than tray

[tropic urchin]

Since Poms are on the expensive side, try RAWs to start and see if it fits your needs. Can always try POMs later if still interested

[tawdry tree]

DT60 vs Salv in this case.

[half hill]

Yh

[glacial wind]

They are both methods of mounting

That is my thought on it

[glossy pagoda]

Got any thoughts about other methods of mounting?

[thorn zealot]

They are all better than tray

[glacial wind]

I believe those other methods of mounting are also methods of mounting

[thorn zealot]

Thats what I think

[cyan lark]

Tray is the only pure mounting method.

[little glen]

the best mount is the one that works

[glossy pagoda]

Tray mounting is vanilla, got it

[chilly mural]

Mount and Blade Warband!!!

[cyan lark]

You have my attention

[half hill]

The thing is I don’t really want to make keyboard modding a hobby, I just want a final build I can play games on and feels premium asf

[green pebble]

Sounds like you'd be happy with an 80he then

[little glen]

i said the same thing a few months ago

[glacial wind]

Then all you need to worry about is finding a case you like and switches you like

[little glen]

look at me now

[green pebble]

Sounds pretty good right out of the box, swap the switches and you're golden.

[chilly mural]

Default metal case + Geon Raw/TTC POM. Done!

[glacial wind]

Don’t overcomplicate it if you’re not into modding

[half hill]

Nah the thing is I actually don’t like anything over 65

[cyan lark]

Then get a 60HE?

[half hill]

Yeah but the sound

It’s so bad

[glossy pagoda]

Nobody chooses keyboard modding as a hobby. The hobby chooses you.

[little glen]

60he + salvation + good switch you like

[half hill]

Damn

[little glen]

boom done

[glacial wind]

The sound is mostly made up of whatever switches you pick

[half hill]

Yeah

[green pebble]

A big selling point of the 60HE for me was how moddable it was. It's nowhere near the level of my custom boards but for a gaming keyboard it's easily the most moddable.

[half hill]

So which switch fits my description? Money isn’t an issue

[glacial wind]

So just worry about the switch and you’re good. Don’t overthink it by getting into plates and different foams etc - your 60he comes with everything else

[cyan lark]

What description?

[glacial wind]

Wasn’t the last 30 mins just people linking you sound tests of switches already

[cyan lark]

I'd just go watch/listen to sound tests and comparisons

[half hill]

If this is even possible

[cyan lark]

We can't really tell you what sound you will like

[half hill]

Yh

The aluminum one

[glacial wind]

That was raw he switches

[half hill]

…

So I’m confused between raw he and Pom

Jade pros don’t sound that great

[thorn zealot]

What about doesn’t sound great

[half hill]

It’s just so inconsistent

[ruby path]

Get both and try each one yourself, easiest way to know which you prefer

[glacial wind]

That’s just people over complicating things and you getting confused because you’re mixing up sound tests from different cameras now

[half hill]

And the sound itself isn’t great

[tawdry tree]

“money isn’t an issue” 👀

[glacial wind]

If you liked raw he it’s highly unlikely that you think jade pro is also awful - you probably just are comparing 2 very different mics

[ruby path]

Exactly, makes decisions easier

[thorn zealot]

Can u describe the sound

To make it easier to define what u want

[half hill]

It’s pretty hard ngl

Hold on let me find a video maybe

I actually would prefer either that

Or maybe this

[green pebble]

This, comparing the Jade and Raw HE in my build they sound fairly close. The Raw HE has a cleaner upstroke and maybe an ever so slightly lower tone

[glacial wind]

You can’t compare 2 sound tests from 2 different people btw

[tropic urchin]

Both RAW and POM have clean sound due to tight tolerances (POM being more stable), for how they both sounded to me, POMs are a turbo charged RAW switch (similar sounding, but louder)

[cyan lark]

Sounds like a bunch of foam

[little glen]

yeah my stuff is using a proper mic, some of the other tests posted were with phone mic etc

[glossy pagoda]

On Thursday we'll be selling POM switches and RAWs, pick up both and see your preference in the real world

[thorn zealot]

Is this what u want or u want to avoid

[tawdry tree]

leak price 😃👍

[glossy pagoda]

Nah

[tawdry tree]

😭

[green pebble]

Frankly even comparing sound tests from the same person is never going to reflect reality. They only exist as a frame of reference.

[half hill]

Ok so I like this as well, I like these one wizard posted asw

[glossy pagoda]

"Reasonable"

[little glen]

it sounds so bad, like if someone used a voice changer for the keystrokes 😭

[kind helm]

so we talking below 50 for 70

[glossy pagoda]

Find out Thursday

[chilly mural]

leak range of price

[tawdry tree]

that can mean a whole lot of things

[thorn zealot]

So u like both a deeper and brighter sound

[glossy pagoda]

Between 0 and 100,000

[glacial wind]

Tldr is you’ll probably be happy with raw he or jade pro - both being very similar sounding switches

[little glen]

yeah as i said, trying it yourself in person is always the best benchmark

[cyan lark]

Always edging the people

[half hill]

Would prefer brighter over deeper

[glossy pagoda]

[green pebble]

I'd go with the raw he over the jade pro simply because it's got better compatibility with the LEDs on the board.

The little plastic diffuser is nice and it doesn't alter the colour of your rgb at all

[kind helm]

i wouldnt say they are similar sounding, raw sounds a bit leaky with that bottom housing while jade pro is a different kind of satisfaction. both good ofc.

[half hill]

What about Pom? Because @tropic urchin said they’re similar too? But better?

[glacial wind]

Please don’t Josh

For the love of god please

[kind helm]

sry sir

[green pebble]

They both have very little stem wobble and have a very similar sound profile, slightly different typing feel

different spring weights

[ruby path]

Wait until he find out you can make franken switches

[cyan lark]

Mmm leaky closed raw

That wasn't meant to be a reply >_>

[tidal frigate]

You want Your switch to be moist

[glacial wind]

I like that you guys love to be hyper exact and meticulous with helping but you can way over help sometimes and confuse folks looking for a generalised recommendation

[tawdry tree]

It would happen anyway, it was meant to. This time.

Nothing anybody could’ve done about it.

[half hill]

Not an issue I loved every single second here, even if it’s confusing I’ll get to an end point anyways

[kind helm]

raw can sound moist if your oil gets into that lil hole in the middle

[tawdry tree]

Trust.

[glacial wind]

Pom is nothing like raw he

[half hill]

@tropic urchin ?

[green pebble]

On another topic, can I purchase the silicon plate dampener separate from the pc plate?

[cyan lark]

Starting to sound like keeb nerd fanfic

[glacial wind]

Just buy the raw he honestly

[tropic urchin]

To my ears they had a similar clean sound, but maybe I’m delulu. I’d just pick it out of a hat tbh

[glacial wind]

When they come out on Thursday or whatever just buy them with your wooting order

[half hill]

Alright so salvation, raw he, module, foam, plate and that’s it, right?

[glacial wind]

foam and plate come with your module

You don’t need to add those

[glossy pagoda]

Lube and tools

[tawdry tree]

do not

[half hill]

@glossy pagoda please tell me worldwide shipping is available

[glossy pagoda]

Which country are you in?

[split dagger]

There is no need for this freaky ass sticker

[tawdry tree]

shipping to india*

[glossy pagoda]

"Worldwide" has exceptions

[half hill]

Like?

[glossy pagoda]

Shipping to India is certainly possible

[half hill]

Inshallah

Thank god

[tawdry tree]

🎉🥳

[glacial wind]

And thus the great switch selection adventure draws to a close

[half hill]

I can finally hit radiant with this keyboard🤩

[chilly mural]

Keyboard don't make you good, but it can make the game much more enjoyable which translate to more time on game.

[tawdry tree]

I’m gonna make one last suggestion, order Raw HEs from ali (70pcs) and order 10pcs of TTC POMs, Jade Pros and Everglide Skylines.

If money is truly a non-issue

won’t be that expensive

[half hill]

It’ll be available on wootings official site right?

[tawdry tree]

No

[thorn zealot]

Yeah no

The kb will not get u there

[half hill]

I’m jsk

[tawdry tree]

Oh you get everything from Woot, nvm then.

[half hill]

Obviously not

[thorn zealot]

Ik

[half hill]

I’m hardstuck asc

[thorn zealot]

It’s just some ppl actually think that

[glacial wind]

He likely wants it all simple if he’s mailing to India

[thorn zealot]

Aka my friend

[cyan lark]

It's the cat ear headphones that will get you there.

[half hill]

Mumbai servers and Singapore servers are different

All tryhards

[glacial wind]

Multiple aliexpress packages to India sounds like a nightmare

[tawdry tree]

Is Ali shit in india?

[half hill]

It’s banned I reckon

[tawdry tree]

LOL

[glacial wind]

Their mail is just not the most efficient, is a nice way to put it

[tawdry tree]

which part of india prob matters a lot

[half hill]

Not really

I live in Bangalore

[tawdry tree]

😭

[half hill]

I’m not sure if yk about this but Bangalore is like the IT hub

And you can’t get it shipped here

So you can’t get it anywhere

[tawdry tree]

tough

[half hill]

And that’s the reason I wanted a final decision on my switches, I mean money isn’t an issue but that doesn’t mean I’ll just get everything just to select which one works, right?

[cyan lark]

It doesn't?

[half hill]

Ok nvm I forgot alibaba exists for India, which is basically Ali express

[knotty iron]

whats up

[glossy pagoda]

The sky

[knotty iron]

[harsh dove]

Thank you sir lol

Rip

[tropic urchin]

I’m more irate by the day

Week 2 btw

[tropic urchin]

Nah wtf

That’s HELLA dirty 😭😭😭

Unbelievable

[polar girder]

lol tf

[harsh dove]

I made the POMs thocky

[polar girder]

Yo did anyone decide for me if I should get a PP or Nylon plate to go with TTC POM?

[harsh dove]

PP

[wild root]

can someone point me to a sound test between raw and poms

[harsh dove]

Bigs PP Plate

[harsh dove]

Here's some POMs

[polar girder]

Ok yeah

[vestal tiger]

are lekkers 60 v2 clacky or thocky

[polar girder]

I really don’t feel like putting together a raw board just to take it apart again lol

Yeah dude I just need POM’s

Actually bummed about the heavier spring weight tho

[marsh saffron]

Neither

[harsh dove]

here's two RAW videos

volume on these is low so turn it up

[polar girder]

More thock than clack tho FWIW

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I don't really know how to explain lekker sound

Most definitely far from clack

[high sphinx]

@harsh dove on the right one wich plate u using ?

[harsh dove]

POM

[sour blade]

is that a leggera in 2nd vid

[harsh dove]

no

frog mini

[wild root]

i use lekker 45v2s

[polar girder]

Frog mini. The real frog

[sour blade]

oh real frog

O:

[cyan lark]

The frog here sounds fairly similar to salv to me. Hard to tell from recordings though. You think?

[wild root]

raws are closest to v2s just from the sound of it and poms are like blues if i had to compare with my experience on switches lol

maybe its just ur audio tho

[polar girder]

Ok done

Now just need POM’s

I really don’t want the heavier spring. Depending on price I might just go with the red/blue/violet TTC

[sour blade]

dam 40 dollars for a custom job + materials is kinda cheap

and shipping

and packaging

what the hell

[polar girder]

lol yeah but pretty much otherwise an impossible to find product

So yeah whatever

I said that last time then bought 3 of them tho

[sour blade]

i mean its actually cheap no sarcasm

[harsh dove]

Similar to my Salv or just in general ?

I think Salv can sound more tinny sometimes

[cyan lark]

Just hit me with a similar light/airy sound of my own salv I guess

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah that's how I'd describe the Salv

when I first made that Frog video, I called it Creamy Clack lol

[sour blade]

never had a frog always assumed it would be less airy than Salv

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel like it is

[sour blade]

since Salv is forced to have all that empty space at the bottom

well not forced, i guess you could kinda fill it with foam with cutouts

[harsh dove]

Yeah you can, I've done it before, but the frog doesn't have anything in the bottom either

they both dont use case foams

[sour blade]

mayble ill mess around with Salv case foam

sounds fun

[cyan lark]

I'd be interested in hearing the results if you care to record

[sour blade]

idk how much iphone audio can do

[cyan lark]

No worries

[half hill]

Ok can someone tell me if Pom will be able to have the same rgb effects like this?

[half hill]

Or do I need to get something like ttc rgb

[polar girder]

Ordered a couple new mics so should be interesting to get some quality sound tests once I build this venom

[wild root]

damn what are the specs on this build

[half hill]

Not great honestly

I don’t own this keyboard

But it’s not great

[half hill]

???

[stone flax]

no

seeing as the led’s on a wooting are north facing and not south

[cyan lark]

TTC Pom has light diffusers for the LEDs to shine through.

[half hill]

So will it be the same?

[stone flax]

again

[polar girder]

No switch wil “give you that effect”

[stone flax]

the keycaps and board you showcased

[polar girder]

More of a PCB and keycap thing

Most switches accommodate RGB

[stone flax]

south facing led’s and sidelit keycaps

neither would work the same for wooting

since its north facing

ergo

not as bright

couple in opaque housings on the switch

not as bright

[harsh dove]

yeah side print legends are really meant for south facing LEDs

Which wooting does not have

In other words they won't look as good on a wooting

[polar girder]

Just buy centerpiece pro if you want some crazy LED rgb like that IMO

[half hill]

Centerpiece pro?

[cyan lark]

Or just a board w/ south facing LEDs if that is a priority for you.

I think Bigs is funning a little.

[polar girder]

Yeah the keyboard

[half hill]

Not a priority

[polar girder]

No

[trail bane]

When are the new Wooting switches coming out?) 👀

[polar girder]

Seems like RGB is of upmost importance

[stone flax]

not new, thursday

[polar girder]

Then centerpiece pro is goated

Finalmouse keyboard

[half hill]

Nah it’s not anything important

[polar girder]

lol ok nvm

[half hill]

Can you explain me what south facing and north facing leds are though?

[stone flax]

led on top = north (what wooting has)

[half hill]

Yeah makes sense

[stone flax]

led on bottom = south (what pairs well with sidelit keycaps)

aka the video u showed earlier

is south facing

[half hill]

This is quite minimal

Will this work atleast?

[stone flax]

wdym work

[half hill]

As in will it be bright enough

[vast yoke]

most keyboards will have different levels you can change

[half hill]

I’m talking about 60he

[trail bane]

South-facing is great if you have keycaps with side printing (like in the video you sent earlier). Personally, I don’t really like it. I have a board like that, and in the dark, the LEDs shine right into my eyes.

[half hill]

What about the second video?

[trail bane]

If I remember correctly, on the Wooting 60HE, you can definitely adjust the brightness through the software or bind it to keys.

[tawdry tree]

This is another sidelit keycap set

so again, it won’t be as bright as you see in the video

using a switch with a translucent housing helps a bit but not worth to change to RGBs just for that.

[half hill]

Will these work?

[vast yoke]

if you want rgb, just look at the glorious aura keycaps

[green pebble]

So again this is another sidelit keycap set. "Will this work" is a bit of a reductive question. They'll all work, is it going to be as bright and as apparent as on a PCB with south facing LEDs? No. Are you still going to see the RGB effect? Yes.

The only things that will really impact your lighting assuming you go for keycaps designed with RGB in mind is the switch opacity since you can't change the led position.

[half hill]

https://youtu.be/7StktqJ-cuU?si=5CPTdvg5x8FjLnJ7, I don’t see any difference between the magneto, Pom and rgb?

[green pebble]

Doesn't look like he has the LEDs on at all in this video.

[vast yoke]

he doesnt, cause that video was about the switches and sound. not rgb

[sacred elm]

pom > rgb > regular magneto

[vast yoke]

hes looking for rgb profiles.

[half hill]

I just want a switch with 0 wobbly sound effects

Basically a clean sound effect

Like mechanical keyboards

[green pebble]

Unfortunately no HE switch is going to sound as good as a traditional mechanical switch does. Not yet at least.

[half hill]

True

But what’s the closest?

Like the cleanest out of all

With very less wobble

[sacred elm]

ttc has least amount of wobble and ttc pom sound is cleanest out of ttc lineup

[marsh saffron]

@harsh dove sorry for the ping but can you tell me how the stem wobble is on the raeds? Worse or better than og jades?

[half hill]

Fr? Because I’m seeing a few vids on geon raw he and raw zero, they both sound clean asf too

With cf plate

[sacred elm]

raw he is a good switch, but they dont have same stem wobble as ttc switches

they still have good wobble tho

get raws if you want rgb

[half hill]

Are raws better than ttc rgb?

[sacred elm]

raws will sound cleaner

than rgb version of ttc

[green pebble]

^

[half hill]

And Pom sounds cleaner than raws?

[sacred elm]

@tropic urchin

[green pebble]

The full Pom housing may help them sound "cleaner"

But because you want RGB the Pom version may affect how bright your LEDs appear

Since there's only a small window for the LED to shine through + a diffuser.

[harsh dove]

Better

[sacred elm]

wooting version of ttc poms will have better rgb than current poms

[tropic urchin]

Oh boy

[harsh dove]

They're even slightly better than Jade Pros imo

[green pebble]

On the raw he there is a diffuser but also the top housing also acts as a diffuser

[tropic urchin]

I thought he decided on raws 💀

[half hill]

Nah I’m still confused

[green pebble]

I think he's suffering from decision paralysis

[half hill]

Yeah

[green pebble]

Just buy both you said money isn't an issue.

Worst case scenario you sell the one you don't like

[half hill]

Bro I wasn’t this confused while selecting the parts for my pc

[high sphinx]

ok guys just payed for my frog mini hype hype

[half hill]

Sell?

[marsh saffron]

And when do these release?

[sacred elm]

2 days

[polar girder]

lol no sell just hoarde

[marsh saffron]

Price?

[sacred elm]

we dont know

[tropic urchin]

POMs have less stem wobble than RAWs bc of their boxstem so you can say they’ll have a cleaner sound than RAWs but they’re louder than RAWs. Both are good switches, you just gotta buy one or both.

My original idea still stands for picking them out of a hat if you can’t decide

[marsh saffron]

How much are regular ttc poms

[sacred elm]

like 90-100$

[harsh dove]

1 million

[half hill]

What kind of shine through keycaps should work for Pom then?

[sacred elm]

wooting price will be better potentially

[marsh saffron]

Yeah nah I ain't spending that on switches

[half hill]

I like the loud ones

[cyan lark]

Poms require a second job

[marsh saffron]

150cad switches 😭

[quartz kettle]

Anyone know what the best option for he switches are with minimum total travel distance of 4.0 mm

[sacred elm]

maybe wooting will sell them for 80$-90pc or even less, 70pc will be even less

[harsh dove]

Yeah POMs cost more than just money

you gotta loob em too

[half hill]

Bro what

😭😭😭😭

[harsh dove]

they cost you your life

[marsh saffron]

Me thinks I'll just get raws from aliexpress

[cyan lark]

Don't forget fealty to the church

[harsh dove]

Yup

[half hill]

I need to get the lube as well?

[harsh dove]

[marsh saffron]

Poms are too much and raeds will fuck with rgb prob

[harsh dove]

Raeds have no rgb window

[marsh saffron]

Yeah raws it is

[harsh dove]

I hate this

[cyan lark]

That's a good sign

[marsh saffron]

I have one that's worse

But mark would probably smite me

[sacred elm]

lekker v2 only option if you want 4mm

[half hill]

What kind of shine through keycaps can I use for poms?

[quartz kettle]

https://www.keychron.com/products/gateron-double-rail-magnetic-switch?variant=41902599209049

I found these and other ones from gateron sites but idk which ones are good

[sacred elm]

dm

[sacred elm]

worse than lekker v2

[quartz kettle]

Ah ok

[quartz kettle]

And same with any switches from gateron site with minimum of 4.0 mm total travel

Or

[sacred elm]

lekker v2s have better wobble than any of gateron 4mm switches

[green pebble]

The TTC switches are factory lubed. People like to hand lube, either for consistency or because they want to control the application themselves. Nowadays factory lube jobs are really well done. My Vertex V1 mechanical switches have a factory lube job about as good as hand lubing. Gateron Oil Kings are another example of a more mass produced switch with a good factory lube job. Even the Raw HE has a pretty good factory lube application.

[quartz kettle]

ok ty

[marsh saffron]

I thought the ttc factory lube was next to none

Thought i heard people saying that

[sacred elm]

gateron has silent genty switches with 3.8mm travel and i think they have better wobble than lekkers

not 4mm but its close

🤓

[green pebble]

I feel it's just enough. Idk what lube they use but if it's 205g0 then less is more.

[marsh saffron]

Alternatively just get 3.5mm and profit👍 👍 👍

[sacred elm]

that

[half hill]

Any shine through keycaps for Poms?

[green pebble]

The effect is going to be minimized because of the small LED window and opaque housing. Combined with the north facing LED side legend shine through keycaps won't have as bright of an effect as what you seem to want.

If it were a south facing LED you would be fine since the LED is positioned where you want it to shine on the legends

It will still be apparent and visible but just not as prominent as what you seem to want.

[half hill]

No what I meant was shine through keycap which is compatible enough for it to work with the north facing led

[quartz kettle]

For osu! i don't like below 4.0 mm for the rest idm, so i guess optional for me xD.

[sacred elm]

poms will have worse rgb than raws, doesnt matter which keycaps you get. raws have very little wobble already, not as good as poms but theyre pretty stable. also they are 2x cheaper. you need to stop overcomplicating stuff and just get raw hes if you want bright rgb.

[green pebble]

I've explained the same thing and the answer is not going to change man. Put a lamp behind a chair can you still see the light when you stand in front of the chair?

Now put the lamp in front of the chair

The light is brighter

Put a lamp behind the chair and cover the sides of the lamp, can you still see the light from in front of the chair? Sure it's just dimmer.

[half hill]

Nah nah hear me out I need something like this, with high quality thick pbt keycaps, cherry profile

[green pebble]

Any doubleshot or etched keycap for shine through will give you that look.

Shine through keycaps have to be thinner by design though. It's just the property of the material.

You can take a look at YMDK. They make a lot of shine through stuff.

Just don't go in with the expectation that it'll be up to the same standard as GMK or PBTFans or something like that.

[high sphinx]

Hey guys i jave a quick question so i bought a frog mini and i was wondering how it handels electrical discharge ?

[little glen]

[vestal tiger]

geon raw or ttc king?

[sacred elm]

ttc pom on 🔝

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm do u by any chance know how the frog mini is grounded ?

[sacred elm]

I dont know

[ionic breach]

it's probably screws if it's top mount

[high sphinx]

Ah ok ty tho

[sacred elm]

ask arc or cam

[calm pulsar]

I get electrocuted daily

but tbh I don't know exactly, it could be via plate or the screws yeah

[high sphinx]

Yeah i was thinking cause the screw only screw the case together right cause its mounted with the tadpoles

[harsh dove]

It's grounded via the USB port

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty very much 😅

[thorn zealot]

My guy just get raws and get any shine through key cap

And call it a day

[untold wigeon]

not at all

they are great

i have them

no issue

[sacred elm]

doesnt mean that they arent worse than lekker v2s tho

[silver nest]

just get the caps off of wootings website

they're pretty good

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-double-shot-pbt-backlit-keycap-set-just-black?Language=ANSI+United+States&Color=Just+Black

non backlit keycaps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

just get a desk lamp or monitor lightbar if you need to see the legends in the dark

[stone flax]

pretty good meaning what 🤔

[silver nest]

they're good

keycaps

my lamp is really good got it from ikea for like $40 canadian

wish it was black tho 😔

[warm shard]

What do you guys think looks better on the frost case dyesub or double shot backlit whites

Because I don’t really know the difference

[vapid oracle]

Preference

Both are good choices

[warm shard]

What do they have that are different?

[vapid oracle]

PBT caps probs more durable

[cyan lark]

Do you want light shining through your keys?

[warm shard]

Yeah probably

[cyan lark]

The due sub does not shine through

Dye*

[warm shard]

I see but it looks cleaner right?

And also less durable

[cyan lark]

Dye sub is very durable, legends are pressed into the plastic

[warm shard]

Ohhh I see I will probably buy a different set from other websites then

[silver nest]

my pbtfans keycaps have heavy shine on wasd lol

[untold wigeon]

what have u done to em lol

i have their wob they still look new

[cyan lark]

Everything shines eventually

[untold wigeon]

had them for 3 yrs

big brains

[stone flax]

what set

[silver nest]

wob

a and d are basically glossy atp

haven’t changed my skates in like 2 months

they’re basically pancakes lol

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[thorn zealot]

omg free gift card!!

[silver nest]

w mods

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[stray tiger]

One of my fav sets is back - https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-future-funk-r2

[calm pulsar]

it has vibes of an IDE

[silver nest]

https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/mechanical-keyboards/ducky-one-x-keyboard-first-to-use-cherrys-game-changing-induction-switches

looks interesting

[polar girder]

Battery life

LOL

[silver nest]

he>>>>>>>>>

[sacred elm]

"The analog switches use less power than Hall effect switches, promising longer battery life."

WOW

nobody cares

[silver nest]

[sacred elm]

I watched some reviews, theyre fine stock (sound and stuff) but performance is not even close to wooting and other top HE keyboards

also it costs 150-180$, not sure why would anyone go for it, when you can just mod your wooting/venom and be happy

[silver nest]

i wanted to get a ducky one 3 mini but ended up getting a 60he

i think i made the right choise

[sacred elm]

You did

[leaden fossil]

You did

[sacred elm]

🥶

[tropic urchin]

Oh no.. anyway

[silver nest]

i wonder if it will have features like rt socd modtap...

[tropic urchin]

@marsh saffron purple beastx pro sold out 😳

W timing

[sacred elm]

What? ducky keyboard? it has rapid trigger

it doesnt have socd, modtap and all those stuff, also the software is terrible

You cant even adjust rapid trigger properly, its either low / medium / high

[silver nest]

lol

[stone flax]

Still better than lekkers 💔

[calm pulsar]

inductive ones have the potential to sound good though

[silver nest]

lekkers>>>>>omnipoint

[calm pulsar]

closer to MX

[stone flax]

ahh yes, ks20 is way better than ks20

💀

unless ya mean v2

[silver nest]

i had an apex pro shit sounded terrible

hated that keyboard lol

[polar girder]

Lolz

HE could never

[tidal frigate]

Have you heard about raeds

[sacred elm]

💀

[tropic urchin]

Raeds need a spiritual leader

[tidal frigate]

Well i speak only truth

And i know unkown truth which is banned by high lords

[sacred elm]

💀

[bitter pollen]

Frr

[calm pulsar]

well I was talking about good sounding switches, not silents

[tropic urchin]

bros moggin now

[sacred elm]

🤫 🧏‍♂️

[tropic urchin]

is it time to send another email chat

[sacred elm]

give up

[tropic urchin]

thats no way to achieve the aluminum dream

[calm pulsar]

at this point just get a 60% with alu plate😭

[tropic urchin]

would that even work lmao

[calm pulsar]

there are alu plates for 60he or venom for sale

[sacred elm]

get pp plate with raeds 😃 👍

[tropic urchin]

nice try mr Geon

[covert pelican]

@harsh dove hi, do you have any issues with keycaps touching the housing of the raeds when typing or bottoming out the keys? I heard some people are having that issue and I would like to hear from someone who are having them in hand. I'm currently interested in buying Raeds for my upcoming Wooting board.

[calm pulsar]

👂 ⛔ 😭

[tropic urchin]

https://hypekeyboards.ca/products/custom-plate-cutting-service?variant=43264479985880 @calm pulsar this is actually diabolical

[sacred elm]

🤫 🧏‍♂️

[calm pulsar]

you mean the price?

[tropic urchin]

nah same ppl as toronotokeeb if im not mistaken

only way is to go directly to the source lmao

fucking hell

black or red aluminum oh boy

[calm pulsar]

red plate is wild

[tropic urchin]

thats actually so shit

im done with these ppl i swear

worst plate experience of all time

yet im still here

[calm pulsar]

I feel like the possibility of kbdfans doing the same plate as they did for 60he, but for 80he is very real

its a nice black anodized plate with countersunk holes, maybe they will do it for 80he as well

[tropic urchin]

rip black plate

[calm pulsar]

alu plates are usually just natural color

silverish

but kbdfans did the alu one for HE as black anodized

[tropic urchin]

im gonna email both

"TWO weeks" btw

half way thru week 2 and only shit we got is fucking extra foam and some brass plates

[polar girder]

What’s the source? Lol

[sacred elm]

they told me months ago that theyre making fr4 cf brass plates

weird that they still dont sell them

[tropic urchin]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Torontokeeb?

[calm pulsar]

do they make any plates for 80he? since they are making a case

[polar girder]

Yesssss

[tropic urchin]

"The Alu plate option will restocked next TWO weeks" absolute cap

rereading this makes me even more irate lmao

[sacred elm]

yea they said they are making plates for 80he months ago

[fluid ravine]

Whatchu order

[polar girder]

Cosmos

October lol

[polar girder]

Nothing even here

[sacred elm]

@tropic urchin should i ask kbd if theyre making alu plate

[polar girder]

Alu for what

[tropic urchin]

tell em you're thinking of pairing it with GT80 silver case maybe they get it ready in time

[tropic urchin]

80he

[polar girder]

Ah

Nvm idc anymore thanks bai

[calm pulsar]

real

60he/venom mind can't comprehend using a proprietary layout

[polar girder]

100

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

i guess ill just crash out

[sacred elm]

oh

[calm pulsar]

send them official plate files from wooting, maybe they are struggling with dimensions

[polar girder]

Valid 80HE owner reaction

[harsh dove]

damn so my suggestions worked

I emailed them awhile back and told them to make 80he plates

[sacred elm]

I also asked them for alu plate months ago 😂

[harsh dove]

oh okay lol

I just told them to make plates since they made the GT80, why not and they made plates for the 60HE in the past

and they were like we'll tell our designers, thank you

[sacred elm]

They told me 2-3 months ago that they are making fr4 cf and brass plates and then i asked for alu plate, i guess it worked

might get it when they release alu plate

[harsh dove]

Yeah

wonder why they taking so much time with it

[sacred elm]

yea thats weird

i was planning to wait for their plates but then i gave up and got plates from ali

unfortunately there was no option for alu

[harsh dove]

Yeah and Keyboard Man Canada don't got any

[sacred elm]

torontokeyb is edging varedis

[harsh dove]

fr

[tropic urchin]

ill go to the white house for alu plate extradition if i have to

new executive order inc

[harsh dove]

wheres mine

[tropic urchin]

nah tho, i swear im going to hear back and hes gonna say "sorry we dont have any alu plates for the foreseeable future"

after TWO weeks

[harsh dove]

I think our keycaps are holding hands

They in the same place at the same time

[thorn zealot]

ima take a 30 min drive and rob cannonkeys

[tidal frigate]

Good luck

[harsh dove]

Scalp the GMK Cosmos

[hallow escarp]

mchose released jet75 today, kailh magnetic god switch

[tawdry tree]

gatekeeperon trying to win public opinion (they are not winning anything) 💀💀

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGAsr-VxZSn

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Oh stfu Gateron 💀

[harsh dove]

Maybe why geon did partially closed bottom, to avoid issues

[sacred elm]

They sued hejin last year and got rejected btw

[tropic urchin]

Gatekeeperon is actually a W name

[sacred elm]

Lateron suing Lejin

[tidal frigate]

Nogameteron

[sacred elm]

read something else at first

[tropic urchin]

Gateron needs to suck an oring and make better Jade pros smh

[sacred elm]

Lateron needs to give up because TTC POMs exist 🗣️ 🔥

[tidal frigate]

Gateron is kinda mad because wooting left them

[sacred elm]

Leaving Lateron for Lejin is crazy work

[tidal frigate]

Heijin?

[sacred elm]

Lejin

[tidal frigate]

What

[harsh dove]

no lube like TTC

3 lil dots on the bottom housing

[tropic urchin]

TTC better patent the no lube technique

[tidal frigate]

@harsh dove are raeds lubed

[harsh dove]

Yes

[tidal frigate]

Did you test with more lube or you will soon

[harsh dove]

Nah they don't really need more tbh

Imoshi said the same

[tidal frigate]

Lets do it for sience

[harsh dove]

I still wanna remove the foam rings maybe and see how they sound/if they work

[tidal frigate]

Foam ring?

[harsh dove]

Yeah they have pre-installed poron foam rings around the stem shaft

[tropic urchin]

I vote put more rings on for ience

[tidal frigate]

Maybe swap for silicone rings

For more thock

[tawdry tree]

Didn’t know they released already. How’s the wobble on those?

[harsh dove]

Supposedly near zero tolerance

idk if Imoshi got em, he offered to get me some

[vapid oracle]

Very interesting lmk how they are when you get em

[tawdry tree]

yeah

might be a KoM rival

[harsh dove]

I just wonder if better or worse than KoMs

yeah

or the same even

[sacred elm]

prob same

[harsh dove]

can you measure spring length for us?

looks like it might be 20mm

[sacred elm]

stem wobble check please

[tawdry tree]

kailhs don’t have a separate diffuser which is nice

[harsh dove]

Yeah cause they're smart

integrated into top housing

[vapid oracle]

I’ve been rocking Jade pros for months now. I will have to say my fav by far

[sacred elm]

Yea I love them too, but its time to say goodbye and become the member of TTC POM church 🗣️

[harsh dove]

which is interesting cause for their source series, the flames and mistrals had separate diffusers

so they changed the design

[vapid oracle]

Link

[harsh dove]

[sacred elm]

In 2 days on Wooting.Io 🗣️ 🔥

[tawdry tree]

kailhs went through a lot of designs already

actually quite innovative

their first were dogshit though

[harsh dove]

Smart

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

still not sure wtf those even were

[harsh dove]

I have them lol

Well not the first first

[tawdry tree]

I mean the sakura pinks

[harsh dove]

but I have the Mistrals

yeah not those

[tawdry tree]

mistrals were better, just not optimally compatible with woot

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[visual ore]

This is what caught my attention

[vapid oracle]

what’s so special about those?

[covert pelican]

Hey Cam, did you see my message or it slipped by your notis

[tawdry tree]

smoothness and wobble wise

[harsh dove]

Think I missed it, sorry

[harsh dove]

Yeah I've been complaining about separate diffusers lol

[sacred elm]

Almost 0 wobble

[covert pelican]

No worries, I was just wanting to ask about interference while using the Raeds HE on your Wooting 80

[visual ore]

I lubed my diffuser lol to stop it ticking

[harsh dove]

Oh with the keycaps, no I haven't felt any of that tbh, is it supposed to be super noticeable?

[visual ore]

Probably didn't actually do anything too sound but I didn't like the rattle when it was outside a pcb

[tawdry tree]

that ^, only happen when you push keycaps on hard enough so that they’re properly seated.

[harsh dove]

I've only used GMK keycaps on them for reference

[tropic urchin]

No wobble and nice marbly clack sound

[covert pelican]

The theory is that they only interfere when out of a board, when installed, they won't have any interference.

[vapid oracle]

Price?

[sacred elm]

Stop lying I know they are THOCKY 🗣️

[fallen pecan]

https://streamable.com/p03k99 kailh gods

[sacred elm]

They are pricy, prob like 80$ maybe less.

[tropic urchin]

🧏

[harsh dove]

I just feel the way they're currently designed makes it harder to remove switches when modding and they also just fall out, making it tedious when lubing switches lol

[vapid oracle]

Oh hell nah Jade pros >>>>

😏

[sacred elm]

[visual ore]

That too. Lubing the TTC POM was harder because I had to take the time to remove the diffuser lol

Or else it would go flying under a desk or something

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[sacred elm]

from video it seems like they have a bit worse wobble than ttc magnetos?

idk

[tawdry tree]

👀 did he compare them to KoMs?

[harsh dove]

I also find it's better for RGB (for people who like RGB) when integrated into the top housing but I understand that can't be done for all materials

[fallen pecan]

nah he didnt, ill check if he has the testing table for koms

[tawdry tree]

the tester he has is so cool

[visual ore]

I find the one the TTC has is already

[fallen pecan]

also the jet75 pcb had to be indented a little to fit the kailh switch, which has an extra bump on the bottom shell

[tropic urchin]

@harsh dove

[visual ore]

The ones used by Durock and Wuque seem more great for RGB tbh

[harsh dove]

Get rekt

[sacred elm]

Lmao

[tropic urchin]

My White House trip will have to wait another week

I was getting ready to tweak out but I can live with another week

If it actually arrives

[harsh dove]

No alu plate for you

[tawdry tree]

a slight bump it seems, pretty odd

[sacred elm]

Next week: "sorry we dont have any alu plates for the foreseeable future"

[tropic urchin]

I will enjoy beastx pro whenever it arrives

[tropic urchin]

I was low key expecting this

[harsh dove]

"Sorry, someone stole the Alu Plates off the truck"

[sacred elm]

It was me

[cyan lark]

Marc could take a master class on edging from TKM

[sacred elm]

Mark is edging finalboss

[tropic urchin]

I hope KBDfans gives you a white case instead

[sacred elm]

TKM learned from him

[tropic urchin]

Is all I’ll say 😤

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-21732737

[harsh dove]

wot is this

[visual ore]

Durock Black Rose

Never used it before

[tropic urchin]

Good thing you don’t live in Germany or the police would raid you for being mean on discord cam 🤣😭

[visual ore]

Just taking a example of the different diffuser shape

[harsh dove]

ah but thats the diffuser you were referring too

yea

[fallen pecan]

kailh gods has an average flux change of 2.48, smiliar to the ttc uranus, slightly better than jade max/pros

[harsh dove]

so not better than KoMs

[tawdry tree]

makes sense

[fallen pecan]

this was his previous chart

[hallow escarp]

i see the price different to Chinese price

[tawdry tree]

getting the same amount of wobble as KoMs without a massive box might be difficult

[tropic urchin]

I heard Gateron is trying to patent the semi boxstem design bc it’s too similar to Jade gaming

Their lawyers furiously typing as we speak more to come

[sacred elm]

TTC POMs still on 🔝

[tropic urchin]

“Talk about IP theft and honor… yes write that down… release the Jade Snakes”

[sacred elm]

Jade Pro Ruby with semi boxstem for 190$/90pc 🤫 🧏‍♂️

[tropic urchin]

Jade Pro Raming 🤓

[tropic urchin]

Fuck don’t give them any ideas

🤣

[chilly mural]

the gateron ham is getting out hand

[fallen pecan]

Right after the gaming recolor too

[tropic urchin]

Getting out of hamd you say

[sacred elm]

See you on court

Buddy

[tropic urchin]

Basketball court?

[sacred elm]

Yes.

I have no chance.

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/kawhi-leonard-kawhi-laugh-laughing-gif-12572894

[sacred elm]