🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

I understand marbly as a deeper sounding clack

[tropic urchin]

I got generational beef with that mf

[quartz current]

Jade Pro, which i got yesterday, sounds far too muc h like a PE foam modded swithc,m it's kind of annoying me

[cyan lark]

This isn't a competition, gentlemen.

[tawdry tree]

slightly more quiet.

[sacred elm]

which plate do you have

[quartz current]

polycarb

[sacred elm]

time to order cf plate

[tawdry tree]

Alu > CF with flex cuts I think

Did the CF from Ali have flex cuts?

[sacred elm]

no it doesnt

who even makes flex cuts for he

[tawdry tree]

Nice

[tawdry tree]

KBD 🥸

[tropic urchin]

If you want louder then I’d rec swapping your plate as Shafie said. Soft plates will dampen your shit tremendously.

[sacred elm]

no thanks

[quartz current]

how's steel plate on Jade Pros

Does the sound beccome muted at all by any chance?

[quartz current]

no

[tawdry tree]

Polar opposite

[quartz current]

i want it less loud

exactly.

[kind helm]

i think it would be high pitch as f

[quartz current]

I am complaining that Jade Pros sound like and as loud as PE FOAM mod

i guess i wasn't clear

[cyan lark]

Still waiting on my plates for the 80. 🔜

[tropic urchin]

Your only option is PP plate (only one softer than PC) and probably adding more foam

[quartz current]

hum

[sacred elm]

do you have 80he

80he with pp plate will be disgusting

[quartz current]

ugh this rabbit hole again

[tropic urchin]

Also depends on your case material too

[kind helm]

pp is softer than pc? i thought pc is slightly more soft. give that extra pop with the stiffness

[tawdry tree]

Why did you get Jade Pros if you want a quieter switch?

[quartz current]

i haven't messed around with modding in a long time

not quiet?

[tawdry tree]

If I understood you correctly.

[quartz current]

I just HATE

HATE that hole sound.

honestly it'd put all my other keyboards to sleep

[tawdry tree]

Hmm

[sacred elm]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[tropic urchin]

It’s ranked 1/8 on stiffness on the modding FAQ with PC ahead

[quartz current]

if it wasn't for the fact that Lekkers have the holes

i've always complained about them since i got on these 2 years ago?

[kind helm]

ahh ok. i may try that then

[quartz current]

lo behold people started making switches without holes.

looks like about half a year ago

[drifting bronze]

What is the easiest way to clean dog hairs out of my keyboard

[kind helm]

a fat boi brush

[tawdry tree]

Remove keycaps + vacuum cleaner

[quartz current]

@sacred elm pp pom poly alu? who cares after you just need fr4 somewhere between that and the end or carbon fiber at the end of the list

[drifting bronze]

Ohh thats a good idea

[kind helm]

vacuum may not be strong enough, but tbf the one i tried in my tiny apartment is 30 dollars off amazon

[tropic urchin]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[quartz current]

either way, the jade pro sound NICER than lekkers... but i feel like it kind of has that 'marble' 'pe' sound built in... which i MAY find annoying? definitely not as annoying as the 'leaky' sound of the lekkers.

[tawdry tree]

The only other way to silence the switches would be with silicone washers, which have their own downsides. 🥴

[cyan lark]

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Powerful-Electronic-Environmentally-Friendly/dp/B01FWSYOME

[visual ore]

I know this goes against the point of HE

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think clacky switches are what you’re after tbh

[visual ore]

But tactile switches plz

[vivid star]

Same issue here, lol. But I found out it has a lot to do with the keycaps. I got some PBT clones from AE which appear to be quite thicc, if I switch to the original Wooting keycaps it would not be as loud.

[quartz current]

nno no no, i dont want to just mute the switches.

I am wondering if any other switches have a tad more 'elegant' sound

if you know what i mean

[kind helm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-keyboard-mahogany-cleaning-brush 3 dollars

3 fcking dollars bb

LMAO

[harsh dove]

[quartz current]

that's not the 'leaky' sound of the lekkers, which are at least by design quieter switches

[harsh dove]

Thats the brush I recommend to peeps

[quartz current]

take your wife's make up brush

or your gf's or your mom's

ez.

dont tell them afte.r

pfft. spending money on keyboard brushes, that's silly

[tawdry tree]

TTC KoMs, Raw HEs, Jade Pros and Everglide Skylines all have a clean sound.

[sacred elm]

try ordering genty silent from gateron (theyre not silent)

[tawdry tree]

NO

[harsh dove]

Makeup brushes literally cost more but go off

[quartz current]

does it have a hole?

[tawdry tree]

YES

😂

[quartz current]

thank you, i will check those out.

[vivid star]

Which keycaps are you using?

[quartz current]

you know. everyon'es been praising GEON RAW, but it's got a lil hole?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

They don’t sound anything like Lekkers, dw.

[sacred elm]

yes but it is 3.7mm travel

[kind helm]

what kind of dude doesn't like holes

[quartz current]

OEM Defaults, so it's gonna be a little louder. I don't want to use GMKs on my wooting anymore, I've went back to utilizing LEDs

[tawdry tree]

Gently silent is an abomination and shouldn’t exist.

[sacred elm]

im confused so you dont like closed bottom switches and open bottom either, what do you want exactly?

[quartz current]

it may FEEL snappier.

[quartz current]

no no i LIKE closed bottom.

one of the first things i said when I got my 60HE when it came out.

i just dont LOVE the jade pros.

[tawdry tree]

Outemu has tactiles but they aren’t of high quality and they sound shit.

They are tactile though.

[quartz current]

It's a class or two above Lekker for sure.

[kind helm]

how about neo lavender

[visual ore]

Ughh T.T

[harsh dove]

Don't have tight tolerances like Jade Pros, RAW HE, or TTC

[visual ore]

Tactile as in Holy Panda or MX Browns....

[remote flame]

wassup, i got an alumaze90 and was just wondering if there were was anything i could do about the gold piece that comes with it if i didn't like the color other than painting it?

[kind helm]

yea but man dislike jade pro and raw he, and ttc i think is a33 cheek in terms of sound

[tawdry tree]

These soonTM as well.

[kind helm]

[quartz current]

do they come lathered with lube like the jade pros do (kind of a good thing, cause i m lazy now)?

[sacred elm]

idk then, maybe order bunch of switches 10pc each and then compare. like 10pc silent genty, 10pc raw he

[quartz current]

yeah just got rec from aligner

imma skip genty though, silent switch designs have never agreed with me.

[tawdry tree]

Not really, they aren’t overlubed at all.

[quartz current]

unless i m specifically building silent keyboards

[quartz current]

jade pros or raw? I dont mind if they 'overlube' like jade pros, i m heavy on lube kind of guy anyway, it'd just save me the trouble.

[vivid star]

Jade Max switches appear to be somewhat more "gentle" in sound compared to Pros or Raws, but they have different issues, I am not sure if Gateron solved em.

[sacred elm]

jade pros arent overlubed

[tawdry tree]

Raw HEs. I don’t have Jade Pros yet so can’t say.

[tawdry tree]

They say they resolved the issue but I don’t buy it for a second.

[sacred elm]

thats a lie

[quartz current]

i heard about that stem issue

[sacred elm]

unless they use different materials

its not possible to fix maxes

[quartz current]

i am not f'n with that. i only have one, well technically two sets of the Wooting keycaps, and i m not spending 30+ for a high quality backlit keycap set

[quartz current]

Blade 60

it's a chonker case

[sacred elm]

all im gonna say if you didnt like jade pros you wont like raw hes aswell

[kind helm]

they are really different though?

[tawdry tree]

They talk like politicians

[visual ore]

They might have fixed it but what about the switches already out there

You would have to gamble you're getting a new batch

[sacred elm]

he wants quieter switches, raws are louder :)

[tawdry tree]

exactly

[quartz current]

dang.

'slightly quieter'

either way that's

humm.

[kind helm]

he wants quiet switch but he doesnt want holes?

[quartz current]

holes sound like ass

[sacred elm]

im confused too

[quartz current]

holes on switches are sinful to me

[kind helm]

i feel him. i want to get money but i dont wanna work

[quartz current]

i dont see the correlation there, but this statement is lovely. me too

fuck work.

[vivid star]

How come raws are even louder but with a hole?

[quartz current]

hmmm i wonder what the materials on the RAWs are

[kind helm]

you would prefer foam instead?

[sacred elm]

there is a small hole

not as big as lekkers

[kind helm]

like some slient switch has foam in there

[quartz current]

using all foams, even my super 'speshul' 100% cotton sheet

[kind helm]

i think there was a thing you put on top of each switch to make the switch quiet

[quartz current]

hummm

[kind helm]

from gmk, but i dont remember what that is called

[quartz current]

yeah raw's butthole sound isn't as loud as lekker, but definitely there.

[tawdry tree]

O-Ring you mean?

[quartz current]

yer probably thinking switch pads?

o-ring adds mush

[tawdry tree]

Makes bottom out quiet but it’s also pretty unstable and not great for HE.

[quartz current]

helps a lot

[kind helm]

nope, its something weird like a flim for the switch

[quartz current]

thank you. it helps a LOT. saved me the trouble

[sacred elm]

dont use foams in switches

[quartz current]

that goes under the switch, over the pcb

[kind helm]

but there is pad on it to ease the hit

[tawdry tree]

Washers that go in the switch?

[vivid star]

Did you guys remove the silicone dampener under the stabilizers?

[quartz current]

i think those are like pseudo PE foam films no?

[kind helm]

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-sound-dampening-brackets

[tawdry tree]

switch pads

[kind helm]

found it

[calm pulsar]

I remember that some guy wanted "pillow" switches💀

[quartz current]

yeah

[quartz current]

......

[tawdry tree]

Oh that, I’ve never seen anyone use it

or any reviews about it

[quartz current]

i mean. some people unironically LIKE that plungy feeling.

[kind helm]

same, mj sent it to the chat one day as a meme i think

[quartz current]

probably the same reason why feet people exist

[sacred elm]

you dont wanna see mr civster silent lekkers and ttc koms

[calm pulsar]

yeah I've seen that I think, didnt listen to them tho 😄

[sacred elm]

and they were arguing that foam doesnt make performance worse for an hour i think

[kind helm]

it doesn't, right?

i can't imagine how it can

[sacred elm]

it does

foam inside your switch DOES affect performance

[calm pulsar]

even if it doesn't, it must sound and feel horrible

[kind helm]

oh inside

its gonna fck with the rt for sure

[sacred elm]

yea, they put foam inside the switch

[kind helm]

i mean, i have seen acrylic filling and clay filling. this is not too crazy in my book

[harsh dove]

@tawdry tree that black alu plate I showed you with RAW HE

[tawdry tree]

I think I like PC better

How do you like it?

[quartz current]

yeah RAW HEs have that quality other hole-y switches have

[tropic urchin]

Chat going a mile a minute what did I miss

[quartz current]

It's not as leaky as the lekkers, but i've seen enough here on RAW

Thank you

[harsh dove]

Feeling wise I like it but sound could be better imo

[kind helm]

RAWRRRR

[kind helm]

thats optimum right?

[harsh dove]

yeah

[kind helm]

sound could be better fs then

[harsh dove]

This is Jade Pro with POM on Frog Mini

[calm pulsar]

sex (haven't listened yet)

[quartz current]

ugh. i think my solution is gonna have to be getting a third party plate.

where'd you buy your POM plate?

do they sell PP plates?

[harsh dove]

Hypekeyboards

https://hypekeyboards.ca/products/wooting-60he-plates/

[quartz current]

how's the flex? (i want to avoid it actually)

[harsh dove]

but you need to get the frog ones if you need frog plates

[quartz current]

?

isn' from DZ?

[kind helm]

dont worry about it, with the screws between the pcb and plate, you pretty much get no flex

[tawdry tree]

From the video it sounds quite echoy, does it sound cleaner irl? Ofc phone mic plays a role but still

[quartz current]

i dont know the POLY felt a tad too bendy for my taste. the problem is my case at the moment only comes with four supports, not all five

[harsh dove]

imo yeah its cleaner IRL than that phone video

[polar girder]

Yes

[quartz current]

does the screw kit come with rings?

damn 60HE modding options are incredible now

[kind helm]

you can try fr4 or something more stiff if you want, but they will be louder for sure.

[quartz current]

oh no no, steel's pretty high on that stiff scale, i m done with that.

i use fr4 on all my proper boards

[kind helm]

have you tried pc/pom/pp plate with he?

[quartz current]

but one, that i've got wuqque on

[kind helm]

mx they are soft but he with screws in there, pretty much 0 flex

[quartz current]

i m on the pc right now

i didn't realize third party options are this greatly expanded

[kind helm]

expensive af, think one piece is like 30 to 50 depending on the material

[tawdry tree]

There are FR4 plates as well, if you want to try that. Quite a bit stiffer than POM or PP though.

[harsh dove]

yeah most 3rd party plates are around $20-50 USD

depending on the material ofc like you said

[kind helm]

me buying plate from china tofu 2.0 alu plate for venom is 10 dolla

china #1

[tawdry tree]

shipping: $45

[kind helm]

shhhhhhhh

[harsh dove]

yeah well the material quality also varies from each

[tawdry tree]

taxes: $10

[kind helm]

tax actually not too bad, appearently under 800 dollars the custom are pretty chill

[elfin garnet]

until trumps gets into office lol

[tawdry tree]

where u from?

[kind helm]

in us from cn

[tawdry tree]

lucky

in eu, import is a minimum of €7

[kind helm]

eu right

LMAO

[tawdry tree]

like $8

[harsh dove]

damn

[tawdry tree]

that’s just for them to look through it or something

administration costs

😭

then 21% on top of that

👹

[harsh dove]

hey dont forget DHL likes to charge me extra $30, its not all good over here in US

[uneven cradle]

yeah it's actually a pretty massive difference

[tawdry tree]

truee 😂😂

[kind helm]

but DHL sometimes faster than USPS

that is kinda nutty

[harsh dove]

Nah they are fast

dont get me wrong, they are good

but they charge tf outta me for where I live

[tawdry tree]

they just don’t like you

[kind helm]

xD

[tawdry tree]

ordering too much

for sure

[harsh dove]

fr

[kind helm]

0 EUR

LMAO

you coming through? we are checking it!

[ashen rover]

hi, what is profile of this keycap set please ? (cherry, oem, sa, mda, xda or dsa ?)

[cyan lark]

OEM

[ashen rover]

ok thank u man

and i have a question. I'm French and I prefer the French ISO layout but I also like the horizontal Enter key. The problem is that I want to remap my Wooting 60HE using the software, but I can't find the ISO keys. For example, I want to use the key that is "5%" in the French ISO layout as "5([". Is this possible?

[tidal frigate]

You have to do it trough windows language pack

[ashen rover]

but if i do this i loose the settings offer by wooting with the point of activation no ?

[tidal frigate]

No

Just create french ansi with alt gr

And it would work perfectly

[ashen rover]

oh thank u really

[tidal frigate]

Ot

Maybe there is french ansi

In Windows already

@ashen rover Well there is no other option because french is iso only so without making your own ur kinda u know. But wooting also has special characters in remap

It would be less convinient but you can still write french

[ashen rover]

ok i see thank u

[rocky bluff]

is there a channel where ppl post their modded keyboards and sound tests? i wanna look into it before buying my own wooting

[tawdry tree]

@stark osprey 1-2 long weeks, so a bit longer.

[tawdry tree]

#1070668460905988106 very few include a sound test though.

[languid owl]

Hey guys any idea what material the case of the regular wooting two he is, I’m looking for a metallic keyboard but looks like I’ll be going with wooting innards.

[tawdry tree]

The Two HE has an aluminum plate and an ABS bottom case.

So the top surface in which the switches are seated is aluminum and the bottom is ABS plastic.

[surreal edge]

hey bro i check geon but it not look transparent it will provide less dimness in rgb then other?..

[tawdry tree]

Geon Raw HEs are great for RGB if that’s what you mean?

[surreal edge]

how much dimmer i will see in lekker full brightness ...and how much in geon raw

[tawdry tree]

Raw HEs diffuse the light better than Lekkers, so slightly brighter (I don’t think noticeably though).

[surreal edge]

i need mainly for good sound and both rgb cuz my keycaps are front facing........i have doubt why then keyboard brand dont add both side led

[surreal edge]

i check jade maxx they are transparent they might better? does they sound better?

[tawdry tree]

LEDs on both sides would be more expensive and if they’re both on at the same time, it’d be very power hungry.

[tawdry tree]

Jade Maxes have issues, they aren’t smooth.

I wouldn’t get those.

[surreal edge]

...yeah but if possible can control that which side rgb you want at time........if i go china i can make a custom pcb with both side light?

[surreal edge]

so in terms of rgb geon raw is top recomendation with good sound and better swtich

[tawdry tree]

I think it’d be possible yeah, very expensive to design too perhaps.

[drifting bronze]

How is the l45 v2?

[surreal edge]

lekker and raw he has significance diff in rgb diffussion or that is just minimal to notice....i check local shop for geon for 90 switch ig they cost around 56-58 usd

[drifting bronze]

I'm from eu

[tawdry tree]

A balance between sound, feel and RGB, Raw HEs, yes. Or TTC KoM RGBs but they are very expensive and louder than Raw HEs.

[tropic urchin]

If you want a clacky profile + good smoothness and RGB, they’re a pretty good all around pick.

[tawdry tree]

Which switches do you have currently?

[drifting bronze]

Jades

[surreal edge]

yeah too much expensive ........... dont have that much to spend on switches now

[tawdry tree]

Do you like the sound profile of Jades?

[surreal edge]

i see

[tawdry tree]

Then Raw HE it is!

[drifting bronze]

I like the higher pitch but not the sound they get after a while

[tropic urchin]

RAWs have best stock lube also so would prob save you some extra $ too

[tawdry tree]

If you like higher pitch, I definitely wouldn’t go with Lekker V2s. Raw HEs would be nice, or Jade Pros even.

[drifting bronze]

But I don't like the feel of the lekker v1 so maybe also not of the v2

[tawdry tree]

wouldn’t* sorry!

😅

[drifting bronze]

Oh so not

Why deeper sound?

[surreal edge]

ttc is kom rgb is good in other hand if i keep sound aside?

i mean in term of smoothness etc

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Raw HEs and Jade Pros have a similar sound profile to Jades.

[glacial wind]

if smoothness is your concern you’d have to hand lube too - because ttc kom stems do not come factory lubed

[drifting bronze]

But theyre to loud😢 my parents are complaining

[tawdry tree]

Much, Lekker V2s sound complete different to Jades, Raw HEs or Jade Pros.

[tawdry tree]

Haha

[drifting bronze]

I'm thinking of buying lekker v2s and just put foam everywhere

[tawdry tree]

Well, Lekker V2s are quieter, if you want that you can go with them instead.

[surreal edge]

🥹 ....then i should stick with lekker then try raw....ig safe choice for initially...

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s a good way to dampen the sound.

[drifting bronze]

I like the feel of the jade more but what lekker should i go for then?

Idk if 45 will be to light you know

[tawdry tree]

L45 is similar to your Jades now.

[drifting bronze]

And should I go silicone or perongeluk between my pc plate and pcb?

[tawdry tree]

So if you find your Jades too light, then Lekker V2 L60s would be a better choice.

[drifting bronze]

I like my jades way more

[tawdry tree]

Haha per ongeluk, Poron dampens sound more.

[tawdry tree]

Then L45!

[drifting bronze]

Yea autocorrect im from belgium so

[drifting bronze]

How is the factory lube on them?

[inner wren]

They're factory lubed?

I didjtbkneo

Know

That

[tawdry tree]

It’s fine.

You can handlube them if you want but if you can’t be asked to; they come well lubed.

[drifting bronze]

Oh great i dont like to lube switches so i mainly avoid it

[tawdry tree]

Lekkers? Yeah.

[sacred elm]

lekkers arent very LEKKER

[drifting bronze]

Haha gladly safe the time

[drifting bronze]

Marketing man

[tawdry tree]

That’s fine. Same with most people.

[sacred elm]

why lekkers tho😳

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok

[tawdry tree]

Read up

[drifting bronze]

Bc I live in belgium and it is hard to get switches that arent so loud

I currently use jades and they're to loud

[sacred elm]

Ah yea then lekkers are nice option if you want quieter switches than jades

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V2s basically are on par with the best “quiet” switches so you’re fine.

[sacred elm]

do you have pc plate

[drifting bronze]

Yup

[sacred elm]

ok, youre good

[drifting bronze]

Wait my setup rn is tofu 60 redux with a pc plate and a silicone insert with jades

[tawdry tree]

Friction pad. I know I said Poron helps more with dampening sound but the friction pad is different.

[drifting bronze]

Nah aint gonna friction

[tawdry tree]

Why?! 😭

It’ll help a lot.

[drifting bronze]

No grounding

And hard to find wich i need

[tawdry tree]

Ah..

There are solutions for that but maybe it’s too much of a hassle

[tawdry tree]

How you mean?

[drifting bronze]

Optimum case has grounding but others dont and i dont want to put in one screw

[drifting bronze]

What rubber to do it

[tawdry tree]

The friction pad, from Wooting’s store.

[drifting bronze]

Oh damn might need to cop that

But still dont want to put in one screw

[drifting bronze]

So friction pad is worth it?

[crystal pagoda]

up to you

[tawdry tree]

You could get a piece of conductive foam, I’m not sure if you can find it locally though.

I think the friction pad would be worth it, especially if you’re already ordering Lekker V2s anyway.

[drifting bronze]

What?

[tawdry tree]

😂 That’s what the optimum case has to ground the board

[drifting bronze]

Yea also thinking of buying pbt keycaps from wooting then bc when I ordered my 60he they're where only abs iso German keycaps so

[tawdry tree]

That’d also be another improvement.

[drifting bronze]

Yea?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah. Only if you prefer shine through though.

[drifting bronze]

So worth the 90 euros bc I'm saving up for a car so yea

[tawdry tree]

There are many keycap vendors with more unique sets.

[drifting bronze]

Yes I have a dark room and need to se wich what is

[drifting bronze]

Also more pricy

[tawdry tree]

I see, then yes. Worth it over ABS in my opinion.

[tawdry tree]

True.

[drifting bronze]

What foam do i need?

[drifting bronze]

What do you think?

[tawdry tree]

If you really don’t want the screw, then an adhesive conductive foam pad/strip

which you can cut to size and stick it in the case below the USB-C port.

[tawdry tree]

L45 Lekker V2s, Friction Pad and PBT keycaps. That’s good.

You can sell your Jades as well if you want to save some money. 😉

[drifting bronze]

Would the screw f with all the sound

[drifting bronze]

Ehhh

To who?

[tawdry tree]

No, it’ll sound slightly different at the spot with the screw but not drastically.

Do you have the Module?

[kind helm]

that is he copium

[tawdry tree]

Anyone. Don’t you have something like Marktplaats in Belgium?

[drifting bronze]

Nope the full keyboard

[drifting bronze]

Yea but to lazy

And not an as big market

[tawdry tree]

Oh I see. The Module includes adhesive O-Rings which you can put on the case standoff, it’d be better than just the screw that’s why I asked.

[tawdry tree]

Ah alr.

[drifting bronze]

The tofu has like a foam you can stick on the stand offs

But is it really worth doing when im trying to safe up money

[tawdry tree]

You could use that as well.

[tawdry tree]

Eh, to me it would be because I hate the tray mount sound but you could skip it as well.

The Lekker V2s will be the biggest change anyway.

[drifting bronze]

Nah i mean the lekkers friction fit and keycaps

[tawdry tree]

Friction just helps that tad bit more.

[drifting bronze]

And also

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I mean you could skip the Friction Pad with what I said.

[drifting bronze]

Do I need to keep the standoffs in my tofu if I'm doing friction fit

[tawdry tree]

You shouldn’t use the optional standoffs anyway.

So no.

[drifting bronze]

Yea just scared to damage the board with friction fit

[tawdry tree]

All that are optional, take them out! 😅

[drifting bronze]

Why?

[tawdry tree]

I understand.

[tawdry tree]

It’ll sound better.

[drifting bronze]

So what's the reccomendation

[tawdry tree]

More consistent.

[kind helm]

it shouldn't, since the pad sits on top of the pcb. so any pressure from the side push toward the switches instead of the pcb.

[drifting bronze]

Just to safe up money for the golf gti or this purchase

[kind helm]

car >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard

[drifting bronze]

Ok now easier please

[tawdry tree]

Lekker V2s for the quieter sound.
Friction Pad for the improvement on top of that (optional).
PBT keycaps for the improved feel and durability over ABS (also optional).

[tawdry tree]

Static he means.

I think

[kind helm]

friction pad doesn't make the board more quiet though, no?

[drifting bronze]

Ok and should I do it even tho I'm trying to safe up

[tawdry tree]

It does from my experience. Slightly quieter and more consistent.

[tawdry tree]

Man, I don’t know. 😂

[drifting bronze]

Me either

[tawdry tree]

I would but I enjoy keyboards so it’s different.

[kind helm]

though it is fair to not gamble on it, i am gambling because me wild hehehe :3

[drifting bronze]

I just game

[tawdry tree]

I gambled for a year straight so 🤷‍♂️

[drifting bronze]

F all this its just a keyboard at the end of the day and a car is more important right

[tawdry tree]

Aight, IMO: Lekker V2s, and the keycaps. Gaming on ABS is slippery as shit and just feels bad.

[tawdry tree]

Haha that’s true

[kind helm]

car >>>>> keyboard but you are not really saving that much by not buying the stuff.

thats like idk how much you car cost but probably 1% of the total cost for a car?

[tawdry tree]

Every penny matters when you’re trying to get a car ASAP.

[kind helm]

then i would save for the car actually. cheapest way you can dampen your board is poly fill

put some on the bottom of the pcb and done

[tawdry tree]

Jades tho 😬

@drifting bronze if you didn’t get the Module, you should have Lekkers right?

Why not use the ones you have?

🤔

[kind helm]

maybe hot take but lekker v1 > jade since you can actually make lekker v1 sound good with the coo coo head switch tape mod

LOLOL but that takes one whole ass day I would guess

[tawdry tree]

switch tape modded lekker V1s > jades, yes I’d agree.

[glacial wind]

Sorry but we have to take your wooting membership away now for disparaging jades

[kind helm]

LMAO sorry sir

[tawdry tree]

original Jades aren’t that clean

neither are lekkers ofc

but switch tape modded didn’t sound bad at all imo

[glacial wind]

Don’t apologise to me. Apologise to your loved ones who you have let down. They would be disappointed

[tawdry tree]

Gateron haters

[glacial wind]

You may regain your membership after a period of self reflection and meditation

[kind helm]

i think jade sound more clean than stock lekker for sure, but jade has this high pitch sound that causes pain in my ears

[kind helm]

but but but i am a proud owner of jade pro

[tawdry tree]

realllll

[sacred elm]

jades saved us

[tawdry tree]

Raw HEs saved us

[sacred elm]

no

[tawdry tree]

Gateron doomed us

[glacial wind]

That is weakness leaving your body. Put some ttc magneto Pom next to your ear for 30 mins a day

[tawdry tree]

yes

[sacred elm]

they didnt

[tawdry tree]

they did

[sacred elm]

ok

[tawdry tree]

ty

[stone flax]

raw he better

[tawdry tree]

Raw HE is both better and better because it isn’t by Gateron.

✅

[sage flicker]

Jeez, why is full POM magneto so expensive? Worth over regular Magneto? 😄

[visual ore]

No clue if they are worth but apparently they have a different sound?

Kind of wonder if I should have gotten both to compare

[glacial wind]

Magneto is just mega pricy because ttc knows people buy them. poms and rgb are a slightly more stable version than regular magnetos so they up charge it even more

If you want Pom magneto wait for the winter aliexpress sale coming up then you can at least stack a few discounts

the codes go live on the 1st

[stone flax]

good idea

stop. buying. them.

[glacial wind]

🙄

[stone flax]

or keep buying them

cant wait to see a 2 dollar ttc switch in 2025

Definitely the direction the people want to see in the HE space!

[glacial wind]

Yeah keep fighting the power man. I’m sure it’ll work like every other internet boycott strategy ever

[stone flax]

Called voting with your wallet

but sure

[glacial wind]

Voting with your wallet doesn’t usually work

[kind helm]

this reminds me of Sweet Baby Inc.

[stone flax]

2 dollar ttc here we go

[glacial wind]

Because people overestimate the influence of small niche groups online vs the bigger audience at large

Same reason Harry Potter game boycott didn’t work and why most online boycotts don’t do jack

[stone flax]

yapyap just say its time for 2 dollar koms cause ttc is super cool deadzone goon stability wobble maxers

all for switches to feel worse than 30 cents raws

type shit

[glacial wind]

Yeah I’m sure you’re going to convince everyone in the world to stop buying ttc because some teenager online yelled at them - that will work

[kind helm]

is there a lot of people getting ttc? i really thought its a meme or for people who don't know jade pro/ raw he exist

I think the difference is small enough to be considered as copium

[glacial wind]

A huge amount. In reality they’re insanely popular in China due to being the most stable feeling switch

[kind helm]

yea in china not many know about raw he for some reason

[sage flicker]

saw your message after i purchased some, but now i'm cancelling it because i see it cheaper on aliexpress already, even before the codes you mention.

so thx, lol.

[kind helm]

i look up bilibili so many people coping ttc it hurts

[glacial wind]

It’s not about raw, it’s just that people don’t care about same thing as small online groups of elitists who prioritise specific sound and feel

[kind helm]

reason why i think is related to raw is because i found like 1 video about raw he in china back when i just brought it. whereas the majority of the people here in keyboard modding channel prefer raw or jade pro

[glacial wind]

the average gamer doesn’t care or know much about sound. They’re just buying the most stable switch. Our small group here doesn’t represent the wide world of he keyboard buyers in the slightest

[kind helm]

true

[glacial wind]

We’re a very niche group of people with very specific tastes and people forget that

[fast oriole]

Geon raw he coming in tomorrow 😍

[kind helm]

never put much thought cause i know the price shouldn't be too crazy, competitor who catch up should shift the price back, hopefully that is.

but yee if gamers are trying hard enough to find wooting off some middle man they probably find ttc too

[glacial wind]

It’s why you’re never going to see some movement to boycott ttc or such things work. It’s a fools errand if you think you’re ever going to impact ttc sales by yelling at people in discord to not buy them just because someone online doesn’t like them

[kind helm]

back when i first mentioned ttc being potentially faster due to the varies tests done on bilibili, people in this channel gave me so much s44t for not sucking mr.geon's huge pp

somehow when you mention it people are cool

this is fcked

[glacial wind]

That’s before we even get to the whole deal with them genuinely being a very stable feeling switch and the poms being much smoother than most box stems I’ve tried

[sage flicker]

but pom magneto is best though right? even though overpriced.

over raw he etc

[glacial wind]

Yeah of the stable switches they’re the top ones

This video for example you can compare just the wobble noise of magneto pom vs typical box stems

[kind helm]

is that difference more related to wooting's way of doing calibration or that performance improvement(if we can call it that) exists for every he board?

[glacial wind]

First is lucifer he, which is roughly denggod/sticky rice v2 level of box stems

Then second is magneto pom

[kind helm]

the price difference between the two is close to 10x i think

LOL

[glacial wind]

It’s more related to wootings way of calibrating deadzone. Wooting sides towards safer level of deadzone so you need a really stable switch for it to drop the deadzone low

[sage flicker]

pretty gud. Looks like you need box stem to get stability, so everyone gonna be doing that from now on. Also, I hear Wooting working with TTC for an iteration for the next Lekkers?

read that somewhere lol

[glacial wind]

They slightly modified existing magnetos for their store is all

[sage flicker]

ya ok

[glacial wind]

Changed some colors, minor design changes to the diffuser

[sage flicker]

Do you even notice stem wobbling in ordinary usage? I don't ever remember thinking about wobble stability past 2 years ago.

it caught on

[glacial wind]

For magneto pom I don’t, but for lucifer he/sticky rice type switches I do

[sage flicker]

when you're typing, you can feel wobble? interesting

[fallen pecan]

poms vs hades are like 3.56x, not 10x the price

[glacial wind]

I think wobble stability is one of those things where you notice it if you’re used to very stable and go backwards

[kind helm]

if i remember correctly, with the new version of wootility that is coming out idk when, they will make some changes related to calibration and the difference between ttc and other switches will become smaller right? then the price should be dropping anyway

[glacial wind]

And it’s more noticable in box stem switches because of the design of the stem touching the sides - so small wobble differences are more noticable with box stems

[calm pulsar]

hope ttc pom won't disappoint after my jade knights

[kind helm]

that is like with everything in keyboard hehe

[glacial wind]

No. Upcoming wootility you mean the switch selector thing just means it detects and calibrates faster

Not that the end result is different

The magnetos will slowly drop in price over time, but only if competitors come out forcing them to drop pricing. Like it would take a geon releasing a ttc level box stems switch for cheap for them to be willing to drop the pricing

[kind helm]

i dont even understand why there is a difference tbh, like in terms of wobble raw is hella good. is it related to the magnet's quality?

[sacred elm]

not only faster but it will be more accurate

[glacial wind]

It’s not - because when we talk wobble we’re talking bottom movement not just top movement

Raw he is actually quite a lot more movement at bottom out vs magneto

It has great top stability though with the top wobble being very low

[kind helm]

did i made a great gaming franken then xD

[glacial wind]

Top wobble is actually why I dislike a lot of less tight box stems because you really notice the top wobbling with a box stem switch

One other factor which isn’t talked about as much is magnet binning too

I’m curious to know how much tighter tolerance magnets adds to the cost of switches

[kind helm]

that was my thinking when i saw the price of ttc

[sacred elm]

is it even doable to make a box stem switch that actually sounds like jade pros for example

[glacial wind]

we know certain switches have tighter tolerance magnets, like jade pro for example have +-30 for their magnet tolerance, same with magneto pom/rgb being tighter tolerance magnet than the regular magneto

[harsh dove]

Just wait 5 years for HE switches to actually get good

chill with what you got and check out the keeb discords in a few years and there will be tons of switches to choose from

[calm pulsar]

which will need a new pcb hehe

[harsh dove]

With the way wooting does things, doubt

[fast oriole]

Not on my watch

[kind helm]

that is what i did, but i checked back in one year. i came to the dc to find what switch is good. then left for like a year before coming back here again

[calm pulsar]

yeah but 5 years is a ton of time plus I think design changes are needed down the line for drastic sound and feel changes

[glacial wind]

I feel like the next gen of switches is going to get interesting

[kind helm]

CANCELLED

[glacial wind]

now the game seems to be who can make a good sounding yet smooth feeling box stem switch

[harsh dove]

yeah for keyboards 5 years is a lot, we'll have maglev switches by then

[glacial wind]

And who can do it without ttc level pricing

[harsh dove]

yeah basically

[kind helm]

keyboard scene is moving faster than before already, kinda fcked but thanks to covid actually i feel like, too much time at home for new hobby

[glacial wind]

I need mrwhosetheboss money to make a keyboard room like he’s doing for his house renovations lol

[calm pulsar]

I think hipyo is the mrwhosetheboss of keyboard world

[harsh dove]

Would be cool if he made his keyboard room also a reverberation chamber

[calm pulsar]

jk jk xdd

[harsh dove]

the ultimate keeb sound test room

[glacial wind]

Yeah imagine what you could do with his budget and a keyboard man cave

The guy put a moss wall and double water feature in his office room

[harsh dove]

Bro got the zen garden theme in his office

[calm pulsar]

are those some futuristic type of curtains on the window? or is the glass just matte

[glacial wind]

He has some sort of blinds in the whole house that also work to seal off and dampen sound

[calm pulsar]

wow I need that for my night shifts

when I sleep during the day

[glacial wind]

Yeah I watch his house room videos and just get ideas for what I want when I renovate a place lol

the polished concrete floors in entire house seem really nice too. Super durable and robot vacuum army can easily mop and clean that

[ruby hill]

Wow

[calm pulsar]

looks like black knights without gold flakes kinda

[ruby hill]

Any review?

[glacial wind]

i posted sound test other day

[calm pulsar]

@glacial wind has them

[glacial wind]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

tl;dr - not all that exciting. Just another cheap option for mid level box stem switches

[ruby hill]

[sacred elm]

what did you expect from 0.25$ switch😂

[glacial wind]

man the domikey red bean is funky but i like it

[kind helm]

using differen color on 1 q a z is kinda fun

[glacial wind]

yeah 2wsx is different gradiant too

very subtle gradiant change there

[stark osprey]

I do like those darker red tones alot on that red bean

[calm pulsar]

tbh I'd love a gmk set with this dark red

but such probably exist

[harsh dove]

not red but one of my fave gmk sets like that is Symbiote

[calm pulsar]

oh you mean with the semi transparency?

[harsh dove]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

I think symbiote had a rerun recently too

[harsh dove]

oh really

I already own it but thats nice

[calm pulsar]

yeah cause I remember some guy offering to pay like 2x gmk sets price for a set from symbiote with the alien alphas, and then I noticed that this kit is in stock on some vendors

so I assume there was a rerun or a restock

currently have my eyes on this one
https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stockkey-kobo-cherries?variant=50713519980862

even has the little semi transparent enter

[stark osprey]

Off the top of my head probably Blot or Perestroika are closest, Perestroika is darker between the two, but they're both like blood red. That red from Red bean looks like it has some purplish hues in it from the photo.

[calm pulsar]

yeah blot is nice but I'd prefer it with clean legends, without any added symbols

perestroika is probably hard to come by, but would be funny considering im from russia

I do have gmk taiga though with cyrillic letters 😄

[stark osprey]

Outsider kit is just plain legends

[calm pulsar]

oh nice, might look for it

[stark osprey]

Haha yea, thought the cyrillics might appeal to you lol

[calm pulsar]

well tbh I get tired of it sometimes, esp when I need to use diff complicated hotkeys and I can't find the required english letter immediately lol

[rocky bluff]

anyone got some thocky or creamy sounding 60he's? all the modded ones on youtube still sound a bit pingy and the space bars are rattly

[glacial wind]

no such thing, outside of the rare pe foam modded wooting (but that mod interferes with accuracy/performance at times)

[dreamy willow]

can anyone help me find some good quality yellow and black key caps for mostly just novelty or anime ones? or where can i go looking for them

[fluid ravine]

That shi does the same affect as the tape mod for me in terms of sound in my board, boosting the mids but probably sounds a bit cleaner than tempest.

But still wouldn't recommend

[calm pulsar]

yeah tape mod I feel just middies the sound

[chilly mural]

If there's one with 3-3.8mm pretravel I'll instant buy

[calm pulsar]

ohh these im excited about, something actually new

do they not bottom out? they wouldnt let it hit the pcb right? 😄

[tawdry tree]

They bottom out on the side of the dome. So the stem doesn’t hit the PCB. 😌

[chilly mural]

this is noice

[calm pulsar]

ohh so these are probably quiet too

[tawdry tree]

Very

[calm pulsar]

I wonder about any actuation inconsistencies

[tawdry tree]

🤔 3-3.8mm pretravel?

[calm pulsar]

he probably meant full travel (or she)

[chilly mural]

yeh, very long pretravel since I like 3.5mm actuation. Allowing rapid trigger for rhythm game.

[tawdry tree]

They aren’t very stable so not sure yet.

[chilly mural]

without having to worry about RT messing up accuracy

[tawdry tree]

Their total travel is 3.5mm

[calm pulsar]

yeah I'd assume so, but these are cool for a change, or if you have to use your board in an office environment for a while

[tawdry tree]

the bump is at 2mm, so their pretravel is 2mm but adjustable actuation point so it’s kinda whatever you make it.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah definitely one of the more interesting new switches.

[calm pulsar]

I feel like these are probably not good for a rhythm game given tactility

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

Well maybe

[chilly mural]

I want the bump at 3-3.8mm I mean.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah that’s what I thought but I didn’t understand why haha

Why?

Like bump, then the bottom out right after?

[chilly mural]

yep. for Osumania type of game at least, I can do jack very well when the key actuate very low since I only have to lift my finger up a little bit as opposed to having it to lift it more.

[chilly mural]

depends on preference, a lot of arcade use omron switches

which is clicky

[tawdry tree]

I see, do any switches like that exist? I’ve never seen a switch with a pretravel very close to the bottom out

[chilly mural]

never seen it too~ Which is why I'm getting HE board in the first place. But you could prop understand where I'm coming from if you play rhythm game on a touch screen.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah it makes sense but do hold your keys pressed down slightly?

If that makes sense?

[chilly mural]

No, or that i don't notice it since im pressing soo fast

[tawdry tree]

What if the switch’s total travel was like 0.5mm?

or less even.

[chilly mural]

Should still be fine as long as it actuate at the very bottom

[tawdry tree]

I could imagine a very short travel distance being nice for rhythm games.

The Osu community didn’t catch on to travel limits yet though I think, so maybe not.

[chilly mural]

I can imagine using Rapid trigger would mess with accuracy due to the potentially massive deviation from the sound made from the keyboard to the game responding to the press.

but that's if they use their keyboard as hit sound, which prop isn't

[drifting bronze]

Also what am I saying my parents want to buy me a car but I want something more expensive so at the end of the day it's a car u know

[drifting bronze]

Don't like the feel to heavy stem wobble and I overlubed them accidentally

@calm pulsar could I ask something questions

[mint burrow]

geon raw or jade pro has a more deeper sound? i know they're both pretty clackly but in comparison to eachother.

[glacial wind]

jade pro is a tad deeper

[drifting bronze]

Does the friction fit from wooting work on thebn tofu 60 redux

[glacial wind]

Yeah although there’s no grounding, you can watch the friction fit tutorial video for more info

[drifting bronze]

Yea thats why im thinking abt it like idk if i should buy it bc of grounding and idk if I should just risk it or put one screw in

And on the other side the screw should not he that tight right?

[drifting bronze]

What do you think?

[glacial wind]

I mean it’s up to you. Personally I don’t care about friction fit for gaming

It sounds nicer but performance wise I prefer normal tray mount

[drifting bronze]

Wait I currently have iso french layout for keycaps but I canr buy the pbt keycaps then

[drifting bronze]

Why? What does it feel like?

[glacial wind]

I don’t like more bouce for gaming

Stiffer is better for me

I only friction fit my 60he because it’s not my main board, otherwise I’d tray mount it

[drifting bronze]

Great then ill tray mount it to thanks

The bad part is that I cant buy pbt keycaps from wooting because they don't have the iso french layout in pbt

[drifting bronze]

Yea so probably only gonna get the l45v2 then

Is a 70 pack enough for my 60he

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[drifting bronze]

What can I do abt the keycaps?

[glacial wind]

You’ll have to look online at aliexpress or other places

[drifting bronze]

Ok thanks 1

[drifting bronze]

Also I have a pc plate but what insert would i use the foam or the silecone

[glacial wind]

that's totally personal preference

just minor sound difference

[drifting bronze]

Would the l45 v2 make it alot more quiet or not and do they feel similar to the jades?

[quiet wyvern]

I'm sure there's only a few people who care about this mod, but I'm looking into it anyways... Does anyone know any details about the Take Control strap? Like where can I get a custom one "woven"? Is it 100% Nylon? Was it originally woven including the 2 holes, or were they punched out after? Does anyone know how I could commision or "print" my own so I can put anything on it; such as, a pattern or image? I only want the strap itself, I can just reuse the screws and silicone. I know it'd be third-party but I want a custom strap that's actually durable and doesn't look clapped out lol, I already looked on Etsy and AliExpress but they only have rough / cheap materials...

[vivid star]

How do I calibrate my 80HE to 3.5mm travel distance switches?

The software shows 4mm but my switches are 3.5mm

[uneven cradle]

The keyboard auto-calibrates the number in the software is more like a 0-100% then what is actually being displayed

[vivid star]

Uh gotcha, so it will still show 4mm no matter which switches I put on my board?

[uneven cradle]

Currently yes, future updates should let you choose which switches you are using or something that would be more representative

[glacial wind]

lekker v2 are more quiet yeah. They don't bottom out as hard as jades

[drifting bronze]

Yeah that would help really much

My overlubed lekker l60 v1 was way quieter then the jades

I just like the light clicks of the jades wayy more

What?

[cyan lark]

You can use any static color you want or animations, even “rgb lgbt stuff”

[quasi hinge]

Would that change the speed?

Lets say I had Geon Raws but set it to 4.0, would it have any affect

[cyan lark]

No the change they mentioned at least is just to have it present more accurate information, such as the bottom out distance.

[vagrant valley]

can i make my wooting he60+ sound creamy

by modding it somehow

[tropic urchin]

Not as much as mechanical boards, but closest you’ll get is lubing clacky switches but eventually that too will be broken in and will go back to how it sounded before

[arctic thistle]

You could just keep lubing them right?

although I imagine it would get repetitive and tedious

[tropic urchin]

Would be a lot of work for not much return after the first time

[arctic thistle]

Anyone have experience using ceramic keykaps on the 80HE?

Mine should be here sometime next week afaik and I’ve been looking at cerakey keycaps, the only thing I could see really be an issue is the space bar needing more return force, I think swapping out the springs for stronger ones should work but I could just use a different switch and stabilizers entirely

[cyan lark]

Plates are arriving today @tropic urchin . Which do I put in first, CF or FR4? I know what I want to hear.

[glacial wind]

cf is the way

[tropic urchin]

I went with CF first and fell in love with the stiffer plate, but I’d say FR4 is a good balanced plate to start off with first. If you’re like me and like clack more I’d tape mod CF and it’s super nice without much harshness to it

[cyan lark]

That’s what I wanted to hear ❤️

[uneven cradle]

will probably require a heavier spring then any stock switch has to offer 80gram+

[tropic urchin]

What I’m running currently anyway

[cyan lark]

CF going in to get to know the koms

[tropic urchin]

CF and TTCs?

[fossil gyro]

hi i wanted to know is there any mod to upgrade the polling rate of the two he if i want it in 8000 hz or it is already this polling rate ( i have the version of december 2023)

[tropic urchin]

Oh boy that’s gonna be something 🤣

[cyan lark]

Yeah I’m shooting for expedited divorce papers

[tropic urchin]

Sound test when it arrives

[cyan lark]

Sure, I should be able to get to it today unless NYE prep gets in the way

[tropic urchin]

Surprisingly Ali got me my shit a day after Christmas so they’re on point for the plate shipping

[uneven cradle]

no way to upgrade, would require a new PCB

[tropic urchin]

One thing with CF is that it’ll darken your RGB a bit

My shit is super dark but worth it

Also works better with my blue caps so it doesn’t have that annoying bright light shine thru on some of the plastic

[drifting bronze]

@cyan lark you know my board and my problem right?

[fossil gyro]

and how much is it for one pcb that have the same future but is in 8khz polling rate (yes i'm okay to do it but just need to figure what items)

[uneven cradle]

does not exist currently

[arctic thistle]

I think I’ve seen someone use a pen spring, I could try that

[uneven cradle]

Wooting sells non-magnetic spring packs or Geon

[fossil gyro]

i have seen some 8khz keyboard but yeah never seen it only sold in pcb

[arctic thistle]

Would they be strong enough?

[cyan lark]

I realized too late how stupid I was for ordering a black Fr4. I can live without intense rgb but I do enjoy some chill lighting

[uneven cradle]

As far as I'm aware the Two HE is the only HE Full size keyboard on the market

[cyan lark]

I do not

[drifting bronze]

My jades being to loud

[cyan lark]

Right right, new parents

[drifting bronze]

And i like the feel of the jades wayyyy more then the one of the lekker 60 v1

How abt the l45v2?

[fossil gyro]

maybe i will try some Frankenstein monster like two keyboard with a two usb port and in the inside the two connect to a double usb port that convert it into a single one

[drifting bronze]

Lighter for better feel and not as loud

[tropic urchin]

Just get the lekker V2s, since they’ll be quieter than jades. About your only option in terms of quieter switches really

[cyan lark]

I don’t think the feel is going to be that different from v1 to v2 other than less wobble and chatter

[tropic urchin]

Also I guess depends if he’s running stock steel plate or PC

[drifting bronze]

Yea but i own lekker 60 v1 and want to buy lekker 45 v2

[drifting bronze]

Nope pc

[cyan lark]

Is it the weight that bothers you?

[uneven cradle]

Yeah that's not going to work, you're just going to need to wait for someone (probably Wooting) to redesign the Two He to support 8kHz, although keep in mind we are talking about a latency improvement of ~0.002 seconds at most

[tropic urchin]

Ye I’d just get the V2s since you won’t make the jades super quiet

Or sound proof your room 🤣

[drifting bronze]

Yea the l60 v1 is harder to pres then the jades

[drifting bronze]

Could do that to

[arctic thistle]

If anything I think 8k polling would make more of a difference in mice but even then I doubt it’s noticeable to human perception

most of the latency comes from the difference in traditional keyboard switches to the HE switches

[drifting bronze]

But I run the tofu 60 redux so ifk if I should get thr friction mount from wooting

[fossil gyro]

okey because from what i see searching just now i found a 68% keyboard at 8000hz and magnetic

[cyan lark]

Around 33 percent harder, yes

You could spring swap your alphas before you commit to buying

See if that does it for you

[uneven cradle]

right there are 8kHz HE keyboards out there but none of them are full size like the Two HE

[drifting bronze]

Nah just gonna buy the 45s bc I had them in my uwu but didn't like the sound in the uwu

[cyan lark]

Alright then, godspeed

[drifting bronze]

Huh

[fossil gyro]

and was wondering if i can fit like the cherry pcb of the numpad keyboards and one other pc without the numpad into the same case and like rip the pcb out and put theme in a single case where they're connect into like a two usb hub who convert thim into one usb because i mean i don't care if the numpad are slower but i just want a full size where most important touch are 8khz

[drifting bronze]

How is friction fit for gaming?

[fossil gyro]

like since the two of them are not 8khz but one is are they gonna conflict in the hub or not?

[arctic thistle]

@uneven cradle

[uneven cradle]

if you buy the 80gram springs yes

[cyan lark]

No real difference at all in performance, mostly sound and maybe some feel.

[drifting bronze]

Yea aint gonna do that like it to be firm

[drifting bronze]

Just need to figure out what layout my laptop is can I send a pic maybe you know?

[cyan lark]

I posted a couple recordings and a vid yesterday if you're curious about friction fit results.

[drifting bronze]

Ohh where?

[uneven cradle]

it don't work like that unfortunately, if you really want that then just get a 80HE (it's 8K) and a seperate external numpad to put next to it

[fossil gyro]

oh okay thanks anyway

[untold wigeon]

whats diff of clip in vs screw in stabs

?

[cyan lark]

Search for from: turingtest has:file
#🔧│keyboard_modding message
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#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[drifting bronze]

Thanks

[uneven cradle]

screw ins are screwed into the pcb and generally more stable and secure mounting style - clip ins just clip into the PCB are easy to take out and lube but less stable

[untold wigeon]

which generally sound better

[uneven cradle]

screw ins are usually preferred due to being more secure

[arctic thistle]

I think I’ll get 100g springs. Does one pack have enough for the whole board?

[uneven cradle]

120 springs in a pack so

[arctic thistle]

ah good

this means I’ll have to take apart every switch, I might as well manually lube everything while I’m at it

[uneven cradle]

i'd maybe try them out first before going through and swapping them all out, 100 grams would be way to fatiguing for me when typing on every key

[arctic thistle]

with the added weight of the ceramic keycaps I doubt it’ll actually feel like 100g

It’ll still probably be more than usual though

but I don’t do too much typing on my keyboards, mostly just gaming

[drifting bronze]

Guys i need this language layout which is this?

[fossil gyro]

i found a full size one who is in 8khz but i don't know if wooting switch are okay to fit inside because they didnt specified how the siwtch was connected but their photo of the switch with one switch out

like i wonder if i just swap the switch if it will still be 8khz

[little glen]

ISO-FR i think

[uneven cradle]

Well if it's not a Wooting pcb it won't work on Wootility

And if it's not a HE PCB it won't support HE switches

[fossil gyro]

well it is that keyboard = https://mechkeys.com/collections/keyboard/products/dareu-a104pro?rfsn=7127324.e74ca8&variant=44631924408543

[visual ore]

That's a regular switch keyboard

[cyan lark]

That's a mech keyboard

[fossil gyro]

and i don't know if i can just change the switch for the one i have from the wooting

[visual ore]

You can't

[cyan lark]

Their switches are entirely incompatible

[fossil gyro]

oh okay

[visual ore]

That's a mechanical switch keyboard

[uneven cradle]

It's also probably not even as fast as the Two HE in terms of response times even though it's "8K"

[visual ore]

It ain't HE

[uneven cradle]

8K polling is pretty useless without also having 8K scan rate

[fossil gyro]

well then i'm just gonna do it the Frankenstein way like putting two keyboard in a single case and having them relied to a usb hub so the cable look like one

anyway thanks a lot

[uneven cradle]

[cyan lark]

Good luck!

[visual ore]

[fossil gyro]

thx

[flat cobalt]

@little glen https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe4mtaojvmIlGKmLuALiKys4wN_J2xXh9Yi8bGqBBWNLrmeUQ/viewform

[cyan lark]

Ooh cosmos but with legible legends? 😻

[flat cobalt]

lol

[little glen]

oh god why would you show me this

i need to buy that now

[flat cobalt]

That big 4U one looks cool

[little glen]

yeah but also i have no use for it haha

[visual ore]

The novelty is kinda of cool

Not sure about the normal keycaps though tbh

[flat cobalt]

It wouldn’t fit the 80he?

[little glen]

it would but i would like to be able to use the keys

[flat cobalt]

Oh true

1 super key

Launch google chrome

[visual ore]

I was thinking the enter button

[little glen]

so these are up rn?

very tempting

[flat cobalt]

Yup but only for 24 hours and they’re made to order so they’ll all be fulfilled since it’s not a raffle

[visual ore]

Got anymore interesting sets to share?

[flat cobalt]

That’s the only one that’s live right now sadly

[tropic urchin]

Fuck

[little glen]

the discord invite on the form is broken

[flat cobalt]

I regret not getting this one so fucking much

[little glen]

[visual ore]

What is thattttttt

[flat cobalt]

Ooof

Chikem

[slim drift]

finally after a year of using this keyboard I decided to mod it and I LOVEEEE IT

raw he and tofu

new keycaps coming soon

[tropic urchin]

I fully modded it from the start and I’m spoiled af ngl

Same with audio

Can’t go back

[cyan lark]

Is that a... space cock?

[slim drift]

I didnt know I would be so into keyboard modding,and a year ago there was literally only raptors and no other switches so I am happy I waited

[cyan lark]

Sorry, cosmic cock

[tropic urchin]

Cosmic space cock*

[flat cobalt]

The one on the left here is gorgeous as well I regret not entering the raffle for it, since it uses real opal

[tropic urchin]

This shit is what got me to splurge on mine 100% 😭

The shine is incredible

[cyan lark]

I was waiting for Varedis to get in here and swing people to the dark side of shiny stones

[flat cobalt]

lol I hate myself for not trying to get it

[little glen]

god damn

[tropic urchin]

I’m a barracuda what can I say, I see shiny and need

[cyan lark]

I did resist, BTW, but I'll admit something crept into my cart that day...

[little glen]

i hope i never go into the whole artisan keycap thing fully cause it will be the end of me financially

[tropic urchin]

I’m thinking of getting another for my mode key for ultimate eye candy but not gonna be for a while

[little glen]

maybe the smartest way to get into artisans is start making your own so you dont have to pay as much

[flat cobalt]

This one isn’t a cosmos but I did order it since it fits the theme

[tropic urchin]

I need dat good shit

[little glen]

and maybe you can even make a little bit of money doing it too

[little glen]

that is very pretty

[cyan lark]

Terror below is 100% fit for it

[flat cobalt]

It’s evil @obsidian dagger

[cyan lark]

Alright what's "tak" even mean? I see it in ~20% of folks usernames around here

[tropic urchin]

IYKYK

[cyan lark]

Ah, creamy

[flat cobalt]

This big keycap is gonna be perfect for the 80he

[tropic urchin]

What the fuck is that key 😂

[flat cobalt]

It’s part of the raffle I linked up top lol

[tropic urchin]

Is that Opal too

[flat cobalt]

Here

[flat cobalt]

I don’t know but it’s really pretty

I’m just gonna buy the entire set

[chilly mural]

soo many artisan

[tropic urchin]

So many artisans not enough key space

I’ll prob call my shit done at 2 for tasteful diversity

[vapid oracle]

link?

[flat cobalt]

It ended like a month ago

[obsidian dagger]

yknow this is funny

cause i had a cthulhu avatar on a forum i was most active back in the day

[visual ore]

Has anyone made a 100% artisan keyboard?

[obsidian dagger]

for yeeears

[chilly mural]

mmm. want one for my f11 keys, barely used that

[flat cobalt]

Evil tak backstory confirmed

[visual ore]

Imagine the cost >.<

[chilly mural]

and one for scroll lock

[flat cobalt]

The seal had a cosmos run let me find it

[tropic urchin]

Idk what I’d get for my second

Gonna let it pay for itself in due time

[flat cobalt]

Ooof the page isn’t even up anymore

[chilly mural]

I need to a job first also

[cyan lark]

Tak

[arctic thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlC_AKBPHWA&t=243s
here's a video on the 60HE or maybe the 60HE+, with ceramic keycaps.
people in the comments seem to say 80g-100g work the best. video kept stock switches / springs.
everything should be here by jan 15th afaik but i'm hoping if i'm lucky, everything will be here by the end of next week.

also, anyone have any good videos showing how to lube HE switches and stabilizers without over-lubing them?

i've never lubed switches or done any custom keyboard work before but I have plenty of experience in working on small and or mobile electronics / electronics in general.

also it seems that these keycaps will be quite thocky

[cyan lark]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
That's what I was looking for

[drifting bronze]

My keyboard is iso french but theyre different

[harsh dove]

Id do more research on ceramic keycaps before buying if I were you, they can have some issues.
Take any and ALL sound test with a grain of salt, your setup will not sound exactly like someone else’s thru a video.

Here’s some links that’ll help you get started;

• https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY

• https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8

[arctic thistle]

i've watched multiple videos on them and i've already bought them. if i don't like them i can simply not use them, it's not like i'll be throwing out my stock keycaps. might be a waste of money but i think i'll be happy with them, especially with the right springs and with the right amount of lube.

although i don't think anything i've ordered comes with lube in a syringe like that

[harsh dove]

As long as you did your research and know what you’re buying, that’s all.
I’m not saying they’re bad, just giving a friendly warning.

[arctic thistle]

i have similar syringes from flux and soldering jobs though

[arctic thistle]

the worst issue they had from what i've seen / heard is that they V1 Cerakey keycaps had issues with how the stems fit but they fixed that in the V2 by using plastic stems instead of actual ceramic stems.

[harsh dove]

Yeah v2 are improved

[arctic thistle]

overall i think it'll be a huge improvement from my current board

[harsh dove]

Oh yeah, definitely

[arctic thistle]

yeah this one has weird switches

and a non-standard stem it seems

[surreal edge]

hey i order full 80he pre assembled....upgrading lekker 60 v2 to raw he is worth?

[cyan lark]

They’re nice but it’s down to preference

[surreal edge]

how understand own prefrence this hobby to huge to explore with limited budget

[reef oar]

it's basically completely up to you whether you want to spend more or not

[tropic urchin]

if you want a clacky experience they're nice, very smooth too. Haven't tried the Lekkers, but they should be fine if you want a more muted/deep experience or dont care about the sound of it.

[reef oar]

if you have a bajillion dollars, go for it, and get an aluminum/zinc alloy case while you're at it. and gmk keycaps. and a ferrari

geon raws are pretty cheap though

i say buy them anyway

[tawdry tree]

I found some bushings that can (potentially) be used as travel limiters which I’ll buy tomorrow to test. Have mouse switches, or the mouse it self ever been used for rhythm fames? Mouse switches basically have no travel or need for RT.

[chilly mural]

I'm not sure if it's similar enough to mouse switches but switches like https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/omron-electronics-inc-emc-div/VX-01-1C23/369962 this is quite commonly use for arcade rhythm game.

It's prone to break easily tho, so I just use kailh choc since it's the closest one to it in keyboard switch form

[tawdry tree]

Very similar. Mouse switches have less travel though, I think.

[tawdry tree]

I see. I’ll test around with it, I’m curious how accurate/inaccurate a magnetic switch would be if you limit the travel to a fraction.

[chilly mural]

That'll be nice to know

[tawdry tree]

Aluminum ones too. 🥴

[tawdry tree]

You can wipe the lube off and swap the springs from your Jades to your Lekkers. That’d save you €40

[drifting bronze]

f that

no time

lol

just gonna order them i think

i cant buy the pbt ones tho

bc theyre os no iso french layout

[tawdry tree]

You can have a custom one made in these dimensions. Then you can use the stock silicone strap buckle(?) and screws to mount it. The holes in the stock strap were punched out after it seems but it is actually woven.

[tawdry tree]

Ah, so just the switches?

Did you check your Marktplaats for Lekker V2s?

With the 80HE, many got an extra set of Lekker V2s and sell them later on.

[tall hollow]

Quick question, do the 3.5mm travel switches play nice with DKS? Or do you need the full 4.0mm range to be able to use the full range of DKS?

[visual ore]

Oh man...

I think I found my set

https://kprepublic.com/products/hififox-x-domikey-hydro-slime-cherry-profile-abs-doubleshots-keycap-set-for-keyboard-bm60-cstc75-bm65-bm68-xd60-スライム-copy?variant=45319567409315

Thanks for the post by the way @glacial wind

Goddamn the blue is also kind of nice

[glacial wind]

yeah their slime series is very pretty

if you're interested wait 1 day and use the aliexpress winter coupons

[visual ore]

Oh?

[glacial wind]

https://kprepublic.aliexpress.com/store/3034003

they have aliexpress store

[visual ore]

Oooh

[glacial wind]

aliexpress winter sale starts in a day or so

[tawdry tree]

You can use shorter travel switches just fine. The 0.1-4mm slider in Wootility isn’t actually in millimeters but in percentage. So for example: If you set Jades (3.3mm total travel) to 4mm in Wootility, they’ll actuate at bottom out (3.3mm).

[tawdry tree]

Domikey’s spacebars are so ugly

everything else looks sixk

just the spacebar 😭

dented

[visual ore]

Oh the spacebar with all the holes?

I probably use the solid white for that

[tall hollow]

yeah, akbar explained that to me

[visual ore]

To accent the board