🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

😭😭

no they are compatible, I’m so lost

[crimson sky]

those are for costar stabs

got no clue why razer includes those lol

or stabs at all for that matter

those are for their more modern boards which look a bit more like normal stems but are incompatible still

[rough hornet]

does the wooting l60 v1 that normal come with the keyboard pre lubed?

i think they are

[paper bloom]

HERESEY!

[rough hornet]

?

[glacial wind]

Yeah all wootings come prelubed

[rough hornet]

can i use anyother then lekker switches in my wooting 60he+?

if i can can you say some hall efect ones that are good?

[hollow dagger]

I think that's primarily what everyone has been talking about here.

[dapper obsidian]

Yes. That is sadly a downside. It is somewhat slow and not that big of a deal on good ones, tho. ABS has a different sound profile to PBT, so its mostly worth it anyway

[safe stag]

logitech be like

[glacial wind]

man aliexpress keeps throwing me switch options for 50% off in the app

really tempting to buy switches that I don't need or want at 50% off lol

[little glen]

me looking at these headphones

[glacial wind]

shafie would be freaking out over my current offer for 70 jade pros at $30 in my aliexpress app

[edgy panther]

30$ for 70jades is insane, i got mine for 40$ loll

[glacial wind]

yeah i've worked out the aliexpress coin store. It just offers you what you've been browsing but at increasing coin credit discounts so you can use more and more of your aliexpress coins to cut the price

until you get to like 35% on top of their already 10-20% sale

i have more HE switches than I have keyboards though so I have no need for more jade pros lol

[little glen]

i also have more HE switches than i have boards

i have at least 90 switches and only one board

[glacial wind]

lol

if all the lube on aliexpress wasn't fake krytox i'd be tempted to pick up some of that too

[untold wigeon]

Hi guys, I have a few questions about switches, stabilizers and keycaps :

• I'd like to know if the TTC Magneto will work well with a 60HE in an optimum case.
• I'd like to know if there are better stabilizers to buy? Durock for example.
• I wanted to buy this set of keycaps: https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-80082?variant=37288304246952
  I suppose there's nothing better in terms of quality, right?

I can't wait to receive my bundle. (60HE+optimum)😏

[little glen]

GMK is good and oblotzky is a good store for them (used them myself several times)

[glacial wind]

yes ttc magneto work fine (keep in mind if stability is your goal the rgb and pom versions are tiny bit tighter with newer molds), stabilizers stock works fine but if you really want to upgrade for fun then swagkey knight v2, nothing wrong with the keycaps gmk is great

[little glen]

tho i'd personally get dualshot 2 keycaps for the optimum case

and for the rest of the questions yes what has been said above is correct i can confirm

do keep in mind that TTC magneto might be more expensive than other viable options like geon raw he

[cedar gate]

Yes my favorite are geon raws

[cedar gate]

Me who paid 90...

[edgy panther]

wtf even on wooting website where they are overpriced they are 60euros bro

[:DW

[cedar gate]

Ik kdbfans shipping is brutal

[untold wigeon]

Thanks guys, I'm looking for maximum stability for the switches and stab, I'm considering relubricating everything.
I may buy the switches from this store: https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005007570632493.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.5fbd6bddzcxUr3&algo_pvid=e0b4cb71-5bb7-42e5-87d8-42a59c36ed5e&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A
(I live in France, so I don't know if there's a better store to buy them).

[cedar gate]

Keep in mind abs keycaps will shine if that's something you want or not is up to you

[little glen]

god damn these are expensive

[glacial wind]

that store is fine. Like I said the Magneto RGB and Magneto POM is actually tighter, but only a very tiny bit and for waaay more money

[little glen]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

these are like half the price

😭

[glacial wind]

he wants max stability though

i like geon raw but if his goal is max stability and doesn't care about price/sound as much then the ttc magneto are technically better

btw if you go aliexpress make sure you grab the coupons on the homepage, you can get like $10 more off at least, and more if you combine with coins (I don't know if you have ali express coins or not)

[untold wigeon]

Ok, I see, thanks for all the replies. ❤️

[amber hornet]

Gateron jade gaming would also be an Option If He wants stability

Also Sound better imo

[glacial wind]

they're not a bad option, although they're behind the pom/rgb in stability by a touch

[hollow dagger]

I'm pretty sure jade and jade pros are the same price, just go for the pros

[amber hornet]

I am talking about the jade gaming

[glacial wind]

he means gaming box stem version

[hollow dagger]

oh

lol im dumb carry on

[amber hornet]

XD

[glacial wind]

it's not a bad option. Roughly stability speaking the ranking is 1. TTC Magneto POM/RGB 2. Gateron Jade Gaming/TTC Magneto regular/TTC Uranus Esports

everything in that first tier is like 30% pricier for like 10% gain lol

[tawdry tree]

yeah it didn’t make sense why a keycap set would require stabs to be included. maybe their regular keycaps have the stab stem and keycap pole as one?

[crimson sky]

they don't

[hollow dagger]

no one talking about the genty silent huh

[crimson sky]

but I can see people struggling to remove them

[glacial wind]

maybe if they were really silent people would consider them lol

[hollow dagger]

i guess so

do you have the jade gaming?

[crimson sky]

modern razer stabs (their own ones) look like this

[hollow dagger]

how does it compare to the jade pro?

[glacial wind]

fake silent is a bit of a waste, most folks rather just buy normal non silent at that point

[crimson sky]

which they seem to include as well

[glacial wind]

nah I haven't got them, I got the ttc magneto pom though

[crimson sky]

the other/old ones are just costar stabs, which have been around for longer than razer as a company

[hollow dagger]

jesus I just checked the price, it better be worth it

[glacial wind]

i'd only go the box stem switches if you really want to maximise stability and play high mmr type fps/timing games - otherwise i think it's completely not worth it

[hollow dagger]

do you have a sound test?

[glacial wind]

there's a ton on chinese sites but not much on normal sites where it's comparing all 3-4 of them

for the price and loss in good sound i wouldn't recommend the box stem switches to anyone except that niche

[hollow dagger]

I mean, to me, at the end of the day, so long as it is remotely stable it's fine.

[sacred elm]

Just saw this, Ive tried both and preferred jade pros. idk really. I would suggest getting both at first maybe 10 each and try them 🤷‍♂️

[glacial wind]

yeah for regular folk raw he or jade pro are the way to go for price and performance

there's no need to min/max stability unless you're specifically in that other niche

[hollow dagger]

or be a gigachad and make a hybrid of raw he and jade pro

[glacial wind]

that doesn't keep up either unfortunately

[hollow dagger]

like arc's

[glacial wind]

because that's top stem wobble

nothing equal the bottom stem wobble of box stem because it's cheating by using box stems

but you basically give up good sound for it because all of them seem to sound ass

[hollow dagger]

I kind of get it, but it does tingles my brain of why you would try to max out stability

[glacial wind]

it's for rt stability mostly

[hollow dagger]

but tbf that's coming from me, who's using an extremely wobbly switch, jade max with a black knight stem

[tropic urchin]

Get the mahjong hifi sound

[hollow dagger]

just a placeholder till my jade pro comes

[glacial wind]

like the kind of crowd that is playing cs or valorant all day at top 5% or whatever of ranked pop or rhythm games in that same top %

otherwise totally not worth lol

[hollow dagger]

anything for that even 0.1-0.2% increase in performance

[brisk vale]

Seems like Geon Raws is a bitch to get into Denmark (EU) since no Scandinavia shops have them. And customs, tax and the exstra fees are just an instant no go.

So I placed an order on 90 Jade Pros 🤞🏻

[glacial wind]

i think it'll be more interesting if wooting does allow you to eventually go sub 0.1mm settings

because then you really find out what is the max min rt you can do for each switch before you can't control it

[hollow dagger]

bruv, everywhere I buy costs me at least 40usd in shipping

[hollow dagger]

sub 0.1 is a little too much don't you think

like there has to be a margin or error if you consider how inconsistent magnetic fields are

[sacred elm]

I feel like if you set 0.1mm deadzone it will be fine, right now its more than 0.15

afaik

[glacial wind]

well that's the question right? How low does it go before you can't physically control it and how much does switch factor into it too

btw shafie I have an offer for 70 jade pros for $30 in my aliexpress coin store right now lol

[hollow dagger]

random qn, shafie where are you from

your name is very common in my region

[sacred elm]

You know what to do

shafie isnt my real name

[hollow dagger]

oh

[glacial wind]

i don't need anymore switches though, i can't even use my raw he in main board since i'll be using the ttc magneto poms, so it's going to sit in my 60he that only gets used when i travel to pc cafes

[hollow dagger]

lol nvm

[sacred elm]

70 jade pros for 30$ is a scam

[hollow dagger]

im assuming your take on shafie is 2 two syllables

sha - fie

[sacred elm]

I dont even remember why I chose this name

[glacial wind]

it's actually afie. The Sh is silent

[sacred elm]

ye

[brisk vale]

Sci-fi
Or shy fairy

[sacred elm]

sno

[brisk vale]

Got 3 of these as well.
Might as well put them up for asthetics instead of holding them captive in my wooting carrying case 😂

[hollow dagger]

ok nevermind, where I am it's pronounce sha-fi-e

[sacred elm]

I ordered exactly this container recently

for 2$

[brisk vale]

They are gonna look like candy on my shelf

[amber hornet]

Get one of These

[brisk vale]

Reminds me of duplo Lego haha

[edgy panther]

its not

i got 70 for $40 and they are 100% authentic

but had to make new account on aliexpress for welcome deal to get that price

they were like 50euros or so other wise

[amber hornet]

Yeah true, but its kinda cool tbh

[sacred elm]

I didnt mean actual scam

[edgy panther]

u mean steal?

[sacred elm]

ye

[edgy panther]

it is steal

[sacred elm]

i got them for 50 on amazon

where did you find it for 40

[edgy panther]

jades are so much superior than lekkers l45/60

[sacred elm]

ah

[edgy panther]

actually nvm its $36

[sacred elm]

I also used welcome deal, but on 10pc jade pros. Got them for 1$

[edgy panther]

u can kinda make unlimited aliexpress accounts to farm welcome deal

[amber hornet]

[edgy panther]

i have like 20 accounts or so

lmao

welcome deal shaves like 10-20euros usually

[glacial wind]

Er don’t do that

[amber hornet]

[edgy panther]

why no

[glacial wind]

You get permabanned after awhile lol

[sacred elm]

90pc jade pros for 9$

[glacial wind]

I know a guy who did that and now he can’t order from aliexpress

[edgy panther]

wtf

[glacial wind]

they banned his address completely

[edgy panther]

thing is in the country where i live rn it doesnt matter

u can put random address

[sacred elm]

what if I use different address on new accounts?

[edgy panther]

they deliver aliexpress orders in specific place and u pick ur stuff with code

[amber hornet]

Just ship it to a package Station

[edgy panther]

• u can use random voIP to generate phone numbers

same goes for names

[glacial wind]

I’m pretty sure they have ip/name bans on him too

[edgy panther]

u can put whatever

theres VPN if that happens

[glacial wind]

But yeah he can’t order at all now and anytime he tries to make new account it fails

[edgy panther]

they cant hardware ban u from aliexpress haha

neither there is ID verifications to order so

they can't rly stop u from making new accounts

[glacial wind]

eh I don’t mind not being able to do that anyway. It just means it’ll be costs that get passed to everyone else who isn’t scamming

[edgy panther]

i dont think it matters honestly

jack ma is already the richest chinese person

[glacial wind]

There’s no such thing as a free scam like this, someone pays in the end either by then cancelling welcome deals or making them bad or by the deals being worse

[edgy panther]

😄

so if 10 000 people make new accounts it wont affect anything

[glacial wind]

you can do it if you want but it crosses my line and I’m not doing that

[sacred elm]

im too lazy to do that

[edgy panther]

i have no sympathy for big corpos like amazon/aliexpress etc

they already abusing the f out of every seller

cuz they use their platform

[sacred elm]

amazon is the worst

[glacial wind]

yeah but the sellers are the ones who pay for it lol

[edgy panther]

correct

not really

they are fvcked either way

[glacial wind]

you doing this is already accounted into aliexpress bottom line

[edgy panther]

and if u get welcome bonus

[glacial wind]

so they raise the fees etc on the sellers to account for the scamming

[edgy panther]

its aliexpress who deduct from their %

if they charge 30% to be on the platform

they will charge less for the specific order

so u get that bonus

[glacial wind]

yeah but stores still pay in the end either by their fee eventually being raised or other factors

you can justify it to yourself all you want but they pay in the end so I'm not going to endorse it

[edgy panther]

i respect ur opinion

but this big corpos have specific budget for refunds/canceled orders/etc that does not affect the specific sellers

they make tons of moneys of fees from sellers regardlesse

[glacial wind]

there's no such thing as a free meal. Just like how when you steal from a store it doesn't instantly affect them, but the insurance company that insures them already accounts for x% of theft in their fee structure

[edgy panther]

of what u do

[glacial wind]

yeah and where do you think that budget comes from

[edgy panther]

from the 30% fees to sell on aliexpress

that sellers pay

[glacial wind]

yeah and how do you think they decided on 30% fee

keep following the trail.

[edgy panther]

so in the end u dont "steal" from sellers

u steal from mr jack ma

[glacial wind]

did you know it started out as a smaller fee

[edgy panther]

it does but its public company

so it doesnt matter and they will raise the fees for profit

always

look at apple/amazon etc

[glacial wind]

that's just girl math.

[edgy panther]

nah thats the truth

if its privately owned its complete different story

and they can have lower fees

[glacial wind]

a fee being raised doesn't mean a fee would raise by the same amount if they didn't have x% of theft

[edgy panther]

but everyone is chasing $$

^^

when company is public it doesnt work the way u think

[glacial wind]

you're just justifying bad behaviour with "meh i don't see the direct 1:1 hurt so not my problem, screw jack ma"

[edgy panther]

investors wants numbers

[glacial wind]

but logically it doesn't hold up.

[edgy panther]

regardless

they just want to see every quarter getting their money up

[amber hornet]

Arent You doing this aswell with that behaviour, because You dont wanna pay more?

[edgy panther]

so they will keep raising fees etc

i am, but so what

i don't have 25b net worth

[glacial wind]

look - if you want to be a scumbag and do aliexpress scams just go ahead and do it. Don't try to justify it with some fake reasoning to people here lol

just take it as "yeah i scam, but it's what I do so meh"

i have a lot more respect for someone who just does something a bit scammy but at least knows that and doesn't sidestep it vs people trying to do sketchy things and tries to do some weird justifying path that no one is buying

[edgy panther]

if all corpos had same mentality like u, they would bankrupt

every corpo is fucking everyone over

[little glen]

yeah if you do something that is objectively not good at least own it

[edgy panther]

employees/people selling on their platform

and buyers as well cuz it ends up raising the cost of the product

😄

[glacial wind]

ah so because someone is screwing someone else over it justifies you screwing other people over, which in turn justifies someone else screwing you over?

[little glen]

thats why i dont like vapes, if you have a nicotine addiction just own it and smoke cigarettes dont clog up my lungs with your sticky vape juice shit

[edgy panther]

if i dont screw them over they still fuck everyone around

so it doesnt matter

[amber hornet]

Thats a Bad analogy mate

[edgy panther]

literally 0 impact

[glacial wind]

just own it. You want cheap stuff and don't care about other people as long as you get your discount so you're going to do it. We don't need the fake excuses

[little glen]

if you feel that way

to me it makes sense but i mean thats just me

[amber hornet]

It doesnt make Sense because cigarette smoke is more harmful to Others than that of a vape

[hollow dagger]

Both suck

[paper bloom]

Simple

Dont smoke

Quit now test ur mental strength

[amber hornet]

Both suck yes. But one isnt as harmful as the other

[paper bloom]

No point wasting $$$ unless u fold ur own cogar

Cigar*

And not yap about health

Vape kills, smoking kills

No way round bout it

Pros and cons faulty battery blow ur face off ur problem

[hollow dagger]

Breathing kills too

[paper bloom]

Not if u got asthma

Mr fish

[hollow dagger]

100% people who breathe die

[paper bloom]

U breath in water

[hollow dagger]

[amber hornet]

This discussion derailed a Bit

[paper bloom]

Barely

It falls in line with smoking kills

1 way or another ur still playing a gambling game

[amber hornet]

From AliExpress Welcome Bonus exploitation to Smoking Kills is a hard derail

[paper bloom]

Either way it cooks

[sacred elm]

i have never smoked

[paper bloom]

Based

[amber hornet]

Same

[paper bloom]

Same

[hollow dagger]

its a little too hot in here so I decided to troll

[tropic urchin]

I only smoke the finest raiden packs

[sacred elm]

Money waste, L health, you stink

those reasons are enough for me

[hollow dagger]

All the money that could've been spent on new switches

[amber hornet]

Best reason is that You also hurt the health of the ppl around You while smoking

[paper bloom]

I only smoke the mother of omlettes jack

And you CANT STOP ME

[amber hornet]

Fr

[sacred elm]

True

[paper bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-caption-hello-kitty-gaming-gif-7456825750800252978

[chilly mural]

Use money for gacha or gym, at the very least you're not dying

[paper bloom]

I use it for food

Games

Gym, shoes for running

[high sphinx]

hey guys i am looking into costumizing my wooting 80he a bit and i am looking for new switches what do you guys think are the best (minimal wobble) ? Also i heard the jade pros are really good is that true or are there even better options ?

[sacred elm]

Jade pros and geon raws

[left depot]

cant wait for the switch release

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm i saw there are two sites from gateron one ends in .co and the other one is .com are they both from gateron ?

[paper bloom]

Cant wait

[sacred elm]

use gateron com, idk about .co

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm ty man i will order the jade pros then i hope it will make a bit off difference over the standard lekker v2 60 i am using now that came with the board

[glacial wind]

you'll definitely notice the difference

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/key-kobo-piano-black-all-in-one-kit

Holy F

[dire vortex]

i just put together the new wooting x optimum with friction pad and magnetic jade switches but i noticed the space bar is very.. clacky and sounds hollow. any way to fix this?

[glacial wind]

yeah i saw those and was considering it for optimum 60% build for a second lol

[sacred elm]

You will love them

[high sphinx]

@glacial wind wich ones are u using if i may ask ?

[glacial wind]

that's all space bars. Search for spacebar foam from aliexpress or other vendors and you'll find foam you can stick into your space bar to make it less hollow

[high sphinx]

@sacred elm yeah i just want as less wobble as possible 🙂

[glacial wind]

raw he and ttc magneto pom

[sacred elm]

wobble is very minimal on both jade pros and raws

[chilly mural]

Soo shiny

[high sphinx]

ok ty guys

[glacial wind]

yeah raw he and jade pro are both what i'd call 'good enough' unless you absolutely need the min/max lowest wobble most sensitive switch

but for 9/10 people they don't need that

[high sphinx]

ok and do i need new stabs or can i use the stock ones ?

[sacred elm]

stock is fine

[high sphinx]

ok ty

[glacial wind]

man aliexpress is too sensitive with the cookies

i click one french aliexpress link from someone here and suddenly it's changed everything in french for all my aliexpress links

[polar girder]

Pretty slick looking

[glacial wind]

probably not the nicest feel though if it feels like the other pc plastic keycaps

I don't want to buy cerakeys because they feel too slick and their qc has lots of issues, but I do want to see someone put cerakeys white crazed onto an optimum setup to see how it fits

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind there could be next 80he third party case, i searched for 80he on reddit and somehow incase is doing ic check for it

[sacred elm]

[untold wigeon]

People who don’t own Cerakey constantly say this but it simply isn’t the case with v2. Buy them and you won’t be disappointed

[chilly mural]

HMM

[glacial wind]

eh i dunno every time i look at a cerakeys set it's like they settled on 'mostly' aligned

it never looks 100% right for every key

[glacial wind]

hrm looks okay

no specs listed at all though

[untold wigeon]

That’s the easiest fix. If any are misaligned you simply send them back and they are replaced under warranty.

[glacial wind]

i'm not sending keys back and forth constantly lol

i want it right the first time

[tawdry tree]

BK stem is compatible with the Jade max housing? Neat!

[untold wigeon]

It wouldn’t be constant thing lol. You literally do it once.

[glacial wind]

once is too much already, especially since i'd have to look over the whole thing and spend my time checking every key

[untold wigeon]

It’s an if. I own 5 sets all are perfect

[glacial wind]

perfect as in all perfectly aligned or perfect as in good enough

because there's a big difference

[untold wigeon]

All perfectly aligned

[glacial wind]

i just checked your images and one already doesn't look aligned

[tawdry tree]

for amazon I agree with u but I kinda respect ali ngl

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

amazon rn is a wanna be aliexpress

[glacial wind]

that bottom row is not aligned right

this is what I mean. I've yet to see someone post a cerakeys image where i think "sweet it's all perfectly aligned"

it's always "looks neat, but I see some minor alignment issues"

and for the price i'm not sending things back and forth dealing with emailing and going to the korean post office

[high sphinx]

hey guys one last question from wich webiste do u guys order ur switches in live in eu

[sacred elm]

cerakeys look so mid

[sacred elm]

check maxgaming

[high sphinx]

ok ty

[tawdry tree]

this could go incredibly hard, not sure about PC tho

[tawdry tree]

deltakeyco for Raws and AliExpress for pretty much everything else. Maxgaming could have cheaper Jades but not sure.

depends on shipping ig

[sacred elm]

maxgaming has jade pros

20% off

[crystal pagoda]

💀

How is this “perfectly aligned”

perfectly aligned as far as cerakeys would go i guess

😂

[dire vortex]

thank you

[high sphinx]

i did some reseach and chose for the geon raw cause i like more thock but i wen to deltakeyco and i can add enough of the geon raws to the cart

[tawdry tree]

raws don’t thock, but if you like the sound that’s all that matters. if you can’t add enough to your cart on delta, they don’t have enough stock

raws are sold on aliexpress as well

from KBDFans’ ali store

[untold wigeon]

That was the yellow set. Already replaced. Like I said. Return and replace

[glacial wind]

i'm not buying a product that requires replacement for me to get the perfect set

especially not one that already has questionable long term issues due to printed on legends

[untold wigeon]

If you want the white on white why not just get X-ray

[glacial wind]

i don't want white, i just think crazed white looks neat with some combos, but i don't actually want to buy any cerakeys due to all the other factors

[edgy panther]

aliexpress got them for 40euros + free shipping

maxgaming is like 50euros cuz of dhl shipping

[untold wigeon]

My indigo set is a much better representation.

[calm pulsar]

pc keycaps daym??

these seem to be sharper shape than cerakeys

[untold wigeon]

Duh they are plastic lol

I would imagine that mirror plastic is a scratch magnet though

[calm pulsar]

yeah I just mean they have the polished look of cerakeys while being the cherry shape

[untold wigeon]

Think fat ps3

[calm pulsar]

yeah most likely

[untold wigeon]

True

[high sphinx]

ok my geon raws are ordered

[chilly mural]

Very noice

[untold wigeon]

You’re gonna love them

[chilly mural]

Using them rn and they feel heavenly

[high sphinx]

i ordered them for the official geon work site

and hopefully its a big upgrade

[polar girder]

Yeah tempting

[glacial wind]

A man of taste. I just made a geon order myself today

[high sphinx]

@glacial wind can i ask how this affects the wootility tho ? cause there the switch goes up to 4mm do i have to do some math then ? Cause of the geon raw travel distance ?

and what did u order if i may ask ?

also does someone know some good keycaps i use iso french so not the easiest layout for keycaps cause i have those shitty keycaps and i want double shot pbt for better quality

[glacial wind]

Wootility actually functions as a 0-100% pressed scale so ignore the 4mm and pretend that means 100% not pressed

they’ll update the 4mm and such to correct mm for the switch in the future when they add the planned switch selector, but you can just treat it as a 0-100% bar for now

[high sphinx]

So when i set actuation to 0.1 it will be 0.1 ?

[glacial wind]

Yeah it will but the later numbers will be slightly different

So 4mm = 3.5mm for you

[sacred elm]

actually it will be 0.0875

3.5/40

[glacial wind]

You can do some math if you want the exact number but honestly it doesn’t matter for actual usage since you’ll just set it to say 0.5 or whatever and decide if it’s too high or low for your sensitivity requirements

[forest hare]

https://keebmat.com/collections/he how is the thock film and keebtape from Keebmat? they have a black friday sale

[high sphinx]

oh ok so if i set it to 0.1 with the geon then it will be slightly more sensitive ?

[glacial wind]

no 0.1 will still be your start point

[sacred elm]

it will be the same

[glacial wind]

The keyboard auto calibrates to be 0-3.5mm instead of 0-4mm

The only thing that doesn’t update is the numbers on the bar in wootility because that feature isn’t in yet

[sacred elm]

it should be 0.085 but its kinda the same

in future they will add switch selector

[high sphinx]

oh ok i see ty guys and u guys also got some good keycap website for iso french layout keyboard cause i want double shot pbt and now i have shit qualitly keycaps

[glacial wind]

I guess technically you could say the first mark will be more sensitive by a tiny bit? But yeah ignore all that and just set it to 0.1 or whatever it says and decide if it’s too sensitive or good

[high sphinx]

ok ty

[glacial wind]

No idea about French keycaps, they’re kind of more rare to see. I bought me some geon cables and stem spacers for my optimum build though lol

[sacred elm]

ye

[tidal frigate]

Is any other company does auto calibration?

[glacial wind]

Yeah most of the actual good boards do it, but the cheapie bad ones don’t

[high sphinx]

oh nice nice i am still kinda new to all of this my previous keyboard was the corsair k70 vegeance haha some old ass mechanical keyboard

[sacred elm]

yes most boards have auto calibration except some chinese 20$ dog keyboards

[glacial wind]

Even some bad keyboards do auto calibration but they just do a shit job of it lol

[high sphinx]

@glacial wind do you know something more about the sykakeyb keyboards they apperiantly have a lower deadzone then the wooting is that cause of switches or maybe firmware and do u think wooting can achieve a deadzone as low as the sykakeyb keyboards ? Just wondering cause i saw that somewhere and i am still learning a lot about keyboard.

[glacial wind]

Deadzone is a fake ass stat

[high sphinx]

oh ok ty

[glacial wind]

the way it works is deadzone is starting rt + deadzone which is heavily influenced by the switch

So chinese boards cheat the system by having 0.01 starting pts that no one uses properly and having a switch that has low deadzone or setting not noise control

So when you see wooting has .3 deadzone it’s actually 0.15 deadzone from rt starting at 0.15 and 0.15 or so deadzone, much of which comes just from lekker v2 switches wobbling more than other switches

If you swap wooting 80he to magneto ttc for example, your deadzone suddenly drops to 0.03

Because all the lekker v2 wobble is gone

So yeah the whole chart for deadzone are often bogus nonsense with not even using the same switch for each keyboard

[high sphinx]

oh ok i see so my new switches will also help with that then

[sacred elm]

yes

[glacial wind]

Yeah less wobbler bottom out switches = less deadzone typically

[high sphinx]

oh ty guys alot for explaining and helping me choose switches etc

[sacred elm]

lekkers are so mid if you care about deadzone

[high sphinx]

i appreciate it a lot

[sacred elm]

its not noticeable but still

[glacial wind]

Honestly a lot of folks can’t even use 0.15rt that well without misinputs already so it’s not even a useful thing for every person to have less deadzone

[high sphinx]

oh ok ty

[sacred elm]

skill issue

[tidal frigate]

I just have heavy hands

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[glacial wind]

Deadzone mostly only comes into an issue with really shitty boards

Like for example drunkdeer or mad60

[tidal frigate]

they are normal sized

[glacial wind]

mad60 has like 0.5 deadzone lol

[sacred elm]

drunkdeer isnt that shit, mad60 is shit

the definition of it

[glacial wind]

Drunkdeer is that bad as well with deadzone

when it got tested it was pretty rough

[ionic breach]

actually good

for like what 20 bucks?

[sacred elm]

weird, top2 and former top1 osu player uses drunkdeer most of the time, even tho he has wooting

[glacial wind]

yeah I think for $20 you accept that the mad60 is going to have lots of accuracy issues and such

[glacial wind]

Osu isn’t necessarily about setting most sensitive settings

The gain is more from rapid trigger and having a sens that works for you, but a lot of osu players don’t actually set the lowest sens

[sacred elm]

well yeah, but if they have 0.5 rapid trigger then its higher than that in reality

[glacial wind]

Yeah but say they set 0.1 sens

Thats 0.6 sens

What if ideally they like 0.6 sens

[sacred elm]

nah nobody uses 0.1 in osu

[glacial wind]

also deadzone refers to the bottom of the press

If osu players aren’t setting 0.1 they notice it less

there’s bottom deadzone and top deadzone

Bottom deadzone is typically what they measure and check

Ah I found it

Keep in mind this was ages ago so everyone might have had updates since then including wooting

Drunkdeer had a 0.5-0.6mm deadzone at the bottom of the key input lol

So if it includes 0.1 actuation then the deadzone is like 0.4-0.5 back then

[high sphinx]

u have the ttc magneto also right ? u like them ?

[glacial wind]

I think they sound the worst of the good switches but they are the most stable of the good switches

So it’s kind of a sacrifice for max stability

They’re very high pitched and loud compared to jades or raw he

[high sphinx]

is it worth to buy only like 6 or so for wasd ?

[glacial wind]

Some people do that actually

[high sphinx]

yah cause i play lots of overwatch

[glacial wind]

But honestly I’d just use the raw he and see how you feel first

[high sphinx]

ok ok

[glacial wind]

unless you have a good aliexpress Black Friday deal for like 10 ttc magneto for $7 or something like that then it’s not the worst

[high sphinx]

do u combine switches ?

or u only using one kind atm ?

[glacial wind]

But the ttc magneto aren’t the best sound worse for everyone. And they aren’t as smooth as raw he or jade pro

Nah I’ll be using all ttc magneto pom switches

[high sphinx]

oh ok

[glacial wind]

Their sound is very jarring compared to jade pro and raw he

[polar girder]

https://deltahub.io/products/new-carpio-pads-airrest-2nd-batch

Hype

[high sphinx]

does someone know how long the normal lerkker v2 60 springs are ?

[glacial wind]

Probably like 15mm

15-16mm is fairly standard for a lot of switches that aren’t specifically trying to use longer springs

[high sphinx]

oh ok ty

[hazy flax]

Anyone know what the keyboard is? Never seen one with a random circle light

[smoky dove]

has anyone had gateron fox switches work for them in 60HE? I just swapped them from the lekker's and it doesn't seem to be working. I only grabbed them because Optimum mentioned them in their video as a potential upgrade

[gaunt plume]

I've put together a table of magnetic switches. It is in Japanese, but if you are interested, please browse it😉
https://www.notion.so/1483e206b5dc8008a760c0fe2629fb2a?v=1a6caade12e04d898da339aa80dfe5ad

[stray tiger]

Very good work!

[tidal frigate]

Tho how much are compatible with wooting

[stray tiger]

Compatible and verified to work well are 2 different things. In theory most of the switches listed as N polarity should work. But not all of them are verified to work well.

[stray tiger]

Fox switches do not work with Wooting 60HE

[smoky dove]

@stray tiger thank you

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[sage flicker]

the low profile switches don't work either i'm assuming, and the Zenaim key switch as well.

I've been thinking about typing speed recently. I think return speed can make a difference but I'm yet to test it. Gonna switch to heavy springs and report. Think heavier can have fewer typos as well. Also, lower travel distance I think is objectively always better for typing speed. So maybe stacking o-rings = good? 😄

[stray tiger]

Would travel distance matter if you set a very low continuous rapid trigger?

[sage flicker]

so, a low actuation point you mean? with CRT on? Well I guess you're assuming that I'm not bottoming out, but I do.

Also, i was just looking at this post you made. #🪛│modding_faq message - Are you saying those Zenaim 1.9 travel distance work with HE Wooting? Also Magneto TTC is now on that list I'm guessing.

[stray tiger]

Bottom out wouldnt matter, anytime you reverse/return the switch direction by your set RT amount it would reset. So while heavier springs would return faster, as long as you're returning the set amount (lets say .5mm for example) then you can press again even if you havent returned all the way.

[stray tiger]

Magneto are good yes, list needs to be reuploaded with the updates. Zenaim is untested but likely wouldnt work.

[sacred elm]

cont rapid trigger doesnt really work if you have less than 0.5mm actuation

[sage flicker]

right. I forgot to mention that return speed would help accuracy in the sense that you get a better feel when to double tap. I get errors on double ee words for example because the springs are so light that the return is not coming fast enough for me to "feel" the double tap. So I end up doing eee sometimes instead of ee. So I'm guessing fast return + lower travel distance is very important for speed (just did the 3 e again lol). And the low actuation force would be for comfort.

[sage flicker]

thx yeah. Saw that low profile switch and was like no way.

[stray tiger]

Well if you have your own typing style/pref that leads to certain habits/mistakes then everything I said doesnt matter. Would be interested to know your typing speed test results before and after though!

[sage flicker]

for sure. I'm like 100-110 atm, but I feel this can easily change. I've hit higher before on other kbs. Will report 😄

[night atlas]

Anyone got a more permanent way of making the tofu 60 case typing angle higher? It's a bit too flat for me personally.

I've been resting the top edge on a small book lol

[stray tiger]

Add bumpons to the bottom

[night atlas]

ooo ok, will look into that

[night atlas]

ur the goat, the ones i see match my acrylic case

thanks Thockfather

What're y'alls favorite HE switches as far as sound goes? I'm currently using the WS Dashes, but thinking about getting Sticky Rice cause I want a thockier sound

I don't mind clackyness but just wanna try sum new shit

[stray tiger]

I think a few people recommend Black Knights for a little bit thockier sound. Try asking @tawdry tree or @harsh dove

I currently enjoy Geon RAW's myself but they are not thocky.

[harsh dove]

Church of Geon Raw HE

[night atlas]

I see I see

thanks fellas

what're the sound differences between silicone and poron plate foam?

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know where I find the build guide on the wilba salvation?

I mean technically I can just search up some YouTube video

[kind helm]

there is a pdf somewhere in salvun's discord

[untold wigeon]

But I saw a person using a pdf version of the guide

Oh they have a discord?

[kind helm]

but if i remember correctly its the same as alexotos's vod

[untold wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826270534915326022/1052940437033332846/Salvation_Build_Guide_v1.0.pdf?ex=67487032&is=67471eb2&hm=b3f4f352a990769019c4bfcac8e0fedc54266270dacbe18cb7e799fadfc5bd9a&

Ah ha

Huh

There is two more of those at the edge of case

Am I supposed to just leave it

[kind helm]

ye

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[kind helm]

you basically have some options for where you want to put the screws between pcb and case

[untold wigeon]

Cool

The fiber glass springs are so hard to break off tho

[kind helm]

yee the spring is a bit painful

i used a nail clipping thingy to sand them

[untold wigeon]

I have to sand it down also

Yeah

[high sphinx]

hey guys i have a wooting 80he and my spacebar is a little bit clingy on the left side does someone else have this ?

[untold wigeon]

Do I need to like wear a mask while doing this

Or gloves

Fiber glass sounds dangerous

[stray tiger]

If it's clingy that's a sign of low self esteem. Just give it a little love and you should be good. By love I mean lube

[kind helm]

i just did it with nothing :3

[untold wigeon]

Ok fine

[kind helm]

think its just plastic essentially

[untold wigeon]

Fuck it

[kind helm]

shouldn't be harmful

[high sphinx]

@stray tiger i ordered some on the wooting site i will try the easy method with the syringe i hope that works ty

[untold wigeon]

Done

It was quick

[kind helm]

you have idk like 8 of them you need to do

keep working :V

[untold wigeon]

How you like the sound of it

[kind helm]

for sure not as soft as you would expect compare to mx board, but sound much better than tray mount case imo

it still has bounce, but not during normal typing, for HE that probably is a good thing

[untold wigeon]

I see

I don’t have the screws shown in the guide

Is this the one I’m supposed to use?

[kind helm]

maybe just different color

[untold wigeon]

Hmmm

I have the silver ones

Longer

I think I’m supposed to use those

[kind helm]

check alexotos video :V he has a build stream on it

i basically just followed him

i am gaming rn hehe :3 too lazy to explain

think both the longer and the shorter one can go in, i used the longer ones for everything i had to screw in for the case, then between pcb and case i used short ones

[untold wigeon]

He seems to be doing the same thing that I did

[kind helm]

spring one end attach to the case the other end touches the pcb

[untold wigeon]

Yeah

[kind helm]

for the side that touch the pcb, most should use the black foam thingy, leaving 2 of them for screwing to the pcb

[hazy flax]

@stray tiger how would you compare the mode sonnet with the think6.5 v2?

[kind helm]

yea a video would be a better explanation than my poopy english as well

[stray tiger]

I cant compare as Ive only had a think65 and not a sonnet

[hazy flax]

Sounds good, is there anything better than the think65 for similar price point? 75% kb ok too

[stray tiger]

I like almost everything mode does though so I dont think you can go wrong

Way too many variables and "better" is super subjective. I made the decision a year ago to stop buying non-HE boards so I dont have enough information to tell you about any of the current MX stuff out there

[untold wigeon]

Dw hahah I got it, thanks

[kind helm]

started

divinikey

[untold wigeon]

They really should include guides in box

[kind helm]

[spiral plinth]

hello i buy wooting two he but i search keycap custom for iso french and other case (in white) for this keyboard

[untold wigeon]

[kind helm]

case from 3 years ago xD probably didn't have enough competition for them to care at the time

[untold wigeon]

Lmao tru

[high sphinx]

hey guys any long pole stabilizers recomandations ? if the syringe technique does not work ?

[stray tiger]

Whats wrong with your stabs and which stabs do you have now?

[queen tree]

Just ordered wooting 60he. Can someone link website with compatible keycaps. First time modding a keyboard don’t know much

[high sphinx]

i have the standard ones and on one end of the keyboard it is more rattly or clanging whatever u will call it than on the other side

so that is why i gonna try the syringe technique first but if that does not work i am gonna buy new stabs and try that

[long dove]

im in the same boat! i just got the 80he but dont know that much about keyboards, would love some help ^^

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[fluid ravine]

@high sphinx you don't necessarily need new stabilizers to fix your problems of rattly stabilizers, your best solution right now is to just tune your stabs with some lube and grease following the video I have linked here. Buying new stabilizers and installing them without any proper tuning is not gonna do any difference so we suggest you to tune the sets you have first then go on from there.

[long dove]

o i think i was responding to the msg about keycaps

[fluid ravine]

Mb wrong ping

Haha

[high sphinx]

@fluid ravine ok ty man i first gonna try the syringe thing and see if that makes it better

[fluid ravine]

Alright man gl
You should def watch the video I sent just incase for any further issues

[long dove]

ohh okok ty

[fluid ravine]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ @queen tree @long dove

"Link website with compatible key caps"
Here is a vendor list to what websites in your region that has available key caps near you

Well it's best to save as much money as possible on shipping so best to look what's near you first

Not gonna say much abt Amazon so ima step back

Preference and budget

Not there key caps sometimes

[thin light]

hey does anyone know if linear35 springs are compatible with Geon Raw HE? planning on spring swapping

[crystal pagoda]

yes

whats ur reasoning for springs that light tho?

[thin light]

Just experimenting, Raw HE stock is already great, curious if hand-lubing and spring swapping could create a better sound profile for me

[high sphinx]

Hey @fluid ravine hey man i found a fix i decided to change my spacebar switch and that fixed it i doont know how but the sound is better

[fluid ravine]

Noice

You switch the switch with the same switch?

I hate english

[high sphinx]

Nah i got another switch from the bag with spare ones but the sound is better i think

[kind helm]

the keycaps i ordered on mid nov arrived earlier than my venom, fck superbuy

[prime orbit]

You guys think we will be able to buy the fit friction pad separately?

[prime orbit]

Oh shit

Wwwww

Dope

[vague stag]

About to order the Mode sonnet - yay or nay?

[tidal frigate]

Do you like it?

[crystal pagoda]

Stack mount

[edgy panther]

overpriced shiet

[crystal pagoda]

[vague stag]

I think it looks great!

[vague stag]

So I’ve heard, but why shiet?

[edgy panther]

cuz u pay premium for someone to make ur prebuild custom kb kinda

the good thing about custom kb is to make it urself the way u like

[crystal pagoda]

Its not a prebuilt

The configurator is just overpriced

the board itself is lackluster for cost

[edgy panther]

i mean they prebuild it for u kinda

the whole point of custom kb is to make it to ur liking

options on Mode sonnet are limited

and every change u wanna do is heavily overpriced

[latent scaffold]

no different than a prebuilt PC

[vague stag]

Okay, suggestions?

[edgy panther]

make ur own or get wooting module and build it urself

[vague stag]

Personally, I think the build quality is great, it looks good and after countless of reviews viewed on YT, it apparently sounds and feels great

[vague stag]

Wooting done

[edgy panther]

i have 60he for gaming, and custom tofu65 for work

[vague stag]

I want 75% for work

[edgy panther]

i would suggest something with qmk

what is even Mode using as software

i couldnt find any info anywhere

[vague stag]

VIA

And QMK

[edgy panther]

thats good at least

well if ur fine with paying premium go for it

and u dont have interest in building ur own

[dapper obsidian]

mode is not really a premium up

[vague stag]

Don’t understand that, it has top mount, gasket mount with different type of softness

[edgy panther]

I would probably get q1 max if i wanted 75% board

2x cheaper

[vague stag]

You have 7 different plates to choose from

[edgy panther]

same build quality also qmk

just change keycaps if u dont like default ones and u r good to go

also the layout on q1 max is better

than sonnet one

imo

[vague stag]

Q1 looks really boring

Black box

But appreciate your suggestions

[edgy panther]

its just one of the hundreds of options

[hazy flax]

neo75 cu

[tidal frigate]

@vague stag if you like design of sonnet get this. All in custom keyboards goes. 1. Do i like design? 2. Does it sound cool? 3. Can I afford it? Thats basicly all you do while thinking about custom keyboards

[vague stag]

Been deciding between these two.

[hazy flax]

yea

its good

[vague stag]

The neo? I missed the pre-order

[hazy flax]

same, thats why im getting a sonnet too

i copped mines for $397 all in, including the tomorrow switches and keycaps and desk mat

(also for work btw)

[vague stag]

Pretty much the same here except the desk mat

[hazy flax]

my wooting 60 is impossible to work with

[edgy panther]

well wooting is basically keyboard for gaming

working kbs there are tons of good options

[dreamy drum]

yeo

just got my tofu 60, should i double up on stock case foam and poron case foam from the tofu?

[edgy panther]

do u have the brass thing

[dreamy drum]

really rather is there a reason not to

[edgy panther]

if no, just fill it with the foam

[dreamy drum]

ye i got brass

but i want it mute as much as i can for cream/thock

[edgy panther]

dont push too much foam

[dreamy drum]

did 3 lyrs of painters tape too

[edgy panther]

cuz it might push the pcb

and not sit properly

[dreamy drum]

gotcha

i guess one final question, im gonna use the poron foam with brass plate & tapemod -- i have some polyfill laying around... would adding that be too much?
Also, if so, should i put the polyfill between the poron case foam and my tapemod? or under the case poron foam and against the brass plate?

[high sphinx]

Hey does someone know where i can find iso fr keycaps that are compatible with wooting ?

[edgy panther]

test it, if the pcb doesnt sit straight and there is buldge somewhere its not okay, you will have to remove some of it

[edgy panther]

aliexpress

[random hull]

so long pole stabs are better for geon raw but what would happen if I switch to a different type of switch that prefers something closer to what the board comes with in stock (am I making any sense?), or will all switches work fine with the long pole stabs?

80HE* my bad

[stray tiger]

Better is relative. I use standard stabs most of the time with RAW's and they work great. However the opposite situation is not ideal (using long poles stabs with full travel switches).

[random hull]

hmm okay, i see, so i might find myself in a situation where i need to swap out again?

cause I saw people talk about those magneto switches, not sure if they are different in that regard but yeah, would not rule out that I want to test those down the line

[stray tiger]

Correct. You can always add spacers to your current stabs if you believe youre having an issue due to long pole switches, but it's not super common.

[random hull]

okay that may be a nice solution then, good to know

[stray tiger]

https://geon.works/products/geon-stem-spacer or 3d print your own

[random hull]

I am leaning towards the knight ones because this page says they're using strictly 205g0 for them and it would mean I dont have to buy any additional stuff, if I do go through with this

oh sweet, thats cool

[stray tiger]

You can strictly use 205go on any stabs or not use it on any stabs (knights included)

[random hull]

I have quite the wait ahead of me until I can use the board, so I thought I would try and swap the stabs out and mess with that a bit atleast. I dont think lubing switches is something I want to do, but maybe I will give it a try too

Perfect, thanks

[high sphinx]

Huy guys will this work on the wooting 80 he ?

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006890444172.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.727d7CGC7CGC1H&algo_pvid=7d44c962-92d2-40e9-8410-c20750043f10&algo_exp_id=7d44c962-92d2-40e9-8410-c20750043f10-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!55.29!31.22!!!56.63!31.98!%402103864c17327466358182635e2ea9!12000038630600461!sea!BE!6194778530!ABX&curPageLogUid=D8OZtK1Kxtt3&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[flat cobalt]

Keycap

[dreamy drum]

Finally done setting up the tofu 60 -- no more on screen keyboard for me 😄

The polyfill definitely was a pain but i went through with it

For some reason backspace sounds 5x thockier than every other key on my keyboard and it's lowkey peeving me off but im too lazy to do anything about it

[edgy panther]

i got same issues with my backspace also with tofu60

[dreamy drum]

Ohhh okay, well thats definitely reassuring

I think the next thing i'm gonna do is grab the new switches, i remember hearing someone say the lekker v2s sound way different

[edgy panther]

if u use lekkers i would say u r better of jades/geons/ literally anything else

the moment i changed my v1.5 60 lekkers for jades pro it was day and night difference

sound/feel wise

[dreamy drum]

Is there any sort of set-up when changing switches besides just physical installation? like the wooting software won't need any sort of re-calibration of its hall sensors?

[edgy panther]

its automatic

[dreamy drum]

Awesome, yeah then i'll definitely look into and consider jades and all the others listed

[edgy panther]

u just remove old switches and put new ones and jobs done

[high sphinx]

I just ordered https://monacokeys.de/products/monacokeys-mk-black-on-grey-pbt-keycap-set?variant=50434652537165

Better then abs plastic hopefully the will go for a long time

[flat cobalt]

GT-80 shipping idk if someone posted it already

[sacred elm]

may 2025

[flat cobalt]

Yeah I’m glad I ordered on the 22nd

[tidal frigate]

Nope

[hollow dagger]

Eliminates the friction, but also pretty wobbly.

[random hull]

Is there any good switch opener on aliexpress that will do well for my geon raws and any other HE switcher I buy in the future? if I grab like one of these?

[flat cobalt]

I have one of these and it works but mine is in the shape of a cat

[random hull]

thats better than this for sure

i gotta get one of those

[tawdry tree]

With O-Rings, the typing feel will be very squishy. I’d recommend to try travel limiters but they are sold exclusively in Japan. An alternative are M2 washers with a 4mm OD, 2mm ID, and a variable thickness depending on how much you want to limit your travel. A thickness of 0.5-1mm would be good as you can stack them.

Zanaim’s switches aren’t compatible by the way.

[tawdry tree]

Long pole stabilizers with a full travel switch will cause the switch’s travel to be limited and the stabilizers will cause the bottom out rather than the switch. You can use regular stabs with regular and long pole switches but long pole stabs only optimally with long pole switches.

[random hull]

okay, alright. so might have to be wary of what switches i go into next then if i swap again

[tawdry tree]

Interesting.

[random hull]

should i get one of these while im shopping for a switch opener

[tawdry tree]

I’d just stick with regular stabs until you encounter a problem (you most likely won’t).

[tawdry tree]

They’re pretty handy and cheap.

[random hull]

thats fair honestly

okay

[tawdry tree]

WoqueStudio’s IIRC

[random hull]

gonna look at it ty

think im gonna be fine just buying some random brush off of aliexpress? cant be too bad right

[quiet bay]

facts

[fluid ravine]

oh wtf i dont remember sending that LMAO

[quiet bay]

apparently Casper was fascinated by your keyboard then LOL

[untold wigeon]

hey guys, i replaced the stabs on my h80e but my left shift sticks for a split second when i bottom it out. i relubed it but its still happening. any ideas?

[sage flicker]

ya knew they would be very squishy but they also dampen sound, so maybe that's a good thing? Thanks for advice on M2 washers, I might look into those, have you tried them and do you like them?

[tropic urchin]

if you wanna lube the stems, having a stem holder isnt a bad idea

[untold wigeon]

@kind helm bro

It sounds so much better

Like 10x better than the alumaze

[quiet bay]

I dont know why it immediately reminded me of minecraft

it's the block shape

looks pretty cool tho

[ruby hill]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/9k0wY1BmEAm1

[untold wigeon]

This place is where I bought my GMK stealth blackout kit from

Like everywhere is sold out and only they had it

[paper bloom]

Lube on the
Pcb

U gotta wipe it down

Its below ur stab

[untold wigeon]

i wiped it with alcohol but they still sticky a little bit, is there replacements?

[paper bloom]

Dony yse

Use*

Alocohol

Then idk its probs the stabs

Inside the lube then

[chilly mural]

Looks sexy

[kind helm]

did you buy through taobao store or soemthing?

[flat cobalt]

No grill 2/10

[kind helm]

i am curious liike what middle man you used for international transport

[untold wigeon]

No I bought it through wechat

They have like a mini program inside of that

[kind helm]

what about the shipping?

[untold wigeon]

I shipped it to a forwarding place

[flat cobalt]

@gritty thunder

[untold wigeon]

On taobao

[kind helm]

any place you recommend, actually first are you in us :3 ?

[untold wigeon]

[kind helm]

i am buying stuff from taobao through superbuy

and its hella slow

[untold wigeon]

I’m in Uk

[kind helm]

ahhh

[untold wigeon]

But I think they do like

Everywhere

37🔐cNla3GOuDX8💲 https://m.tb.cn/h.T21vYmVrIZIfsqZ CZ3456 君丰旗舰店

This place

[kind helm]

alright

[untold wigeon]

Even New Zealand

Lmao

I was in NZ for like 6 years

[kind helm]

tyty

[untold wigeon]

It sounds very good

I’m still waiting for the keycaps and switches

Rn this will have to do

Oh and also the black plate

[tropic urchin]

Pudding looks nice tho

[untold wigeon]

I prefer no-shine through

But yes it’s nice haha

Came with my keyboard set, I bought for £270 on ebay

[polar girder]

@harsh dove yo did you try friction fit pad in frog mini by chance?

Curious if it still mounts like usual with tadpole mount or not

[harsh dove]

Yeah, don’t work

[polar girder]

Cool thanks

Was hoping maybe it would fill some air space lol

[harsh dove]

lol right, it gets caught around the edges, I’m sure you could force it but then it might be hard to remove plus you’d defeat the purpose of the tadpoles

[polar girder]

Yeah screw that

Thanks for trying tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah np

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-anxious-restless-looking-around-patiently-waiting-gif-11158557569493905054

[harsh dove]

Posting again

[polar girder]

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Magnetic-Jade-Pro-Pre-Travel/dp/B0DFGZ9D6L/ref=mp_s_a_1_1

[fluid ravine]

oh shi what caps

[harsh dove]

Rubrehose

GMK

[polar girder]

20% off

[polar girder]

I like

[harsh dove]

Nice

[polar girder]

That’s optimum case?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

shii

interesting

[fluid ravine]

oh!

[polar girder]

Nvm needs prime. Boooooo

[fluid ravine]

ah damn

i was aboutto say

[harsh dove]

Rip

[glacial wind]

Cheaper on aliexpress still if you do coin discounts

[polar girder]

All my homies hate prime

[fluid ravine]

$50 for 70pc was about to say

[fluid ravine]

dafuq is PRIME

like dafuq

[polar girder]

REAL

[fluid ravine]

tsk tsk tsk

[glacial wind]

I have an offer right now in aliexpress for 70 at $30 lol

[polar girder]

Bruh

[fluid ravine]

holeh

[polar girder]

I’ll take that

Lolz

[glacial wind]

Just use aliexpress app and browse Jade pros for a bit

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[glacial wind]

Then over next few days it’ll start appearing in your coin store

[fluid ravine]

the flip

[ionic breach]

aight im doing it

time to make some franks

wait i would need black knights

[glacial wind]

Before even adding other coupons in

Then price after if you throw some coins and Black Friday coupons

Goes down to $30

[fluid ravine]

he has done the impossible!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[quiet bay]

i honestly forgot about my coins on aliexpress lol

[glacial wind]

Yeah same I only remember them when I use the app

The coins are mostly there for app, the interface to use them and coin store on desktop is scuffed

[untold wigeon]

Uh

Does universal plates work with wooting?

[tawdry tree]

If you like quiet, definitely! Here’s the mod by @craggy cipher who used silicone washers to silence the switch and it works great. I’ve only been able to try 1mm thick silicone washers which I found too squishy but thinner silicone washers are a pain and a half to find..
First video shows stock TTC Magnetos and the second show them with 0.5mm thick silicone washers:

[untold wigeon]

60%

[glacial wind]

No

[polar girder]

Mm I got it down to $42 on Ali

[fluid ravine]

i feel like my ears are being stabed with each keystrokes lmfao

[quiet bay]

also if anyone in us wants to buy raws I'd suggest buying them on divinikeys rn cause of the black friday sale

[fluid ravine]

how much is it for 4 pack

[tawdry tree]

how can anyone not like peace and quiet. 😂

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

Can they just ship this already

[quiet bay]

26.92 not including shipping or tax

[untold wigeon]

Just some plate that is marked “instock”

[fluid ravine]

hell yeah sure

every dollar worth

[untold wigeon]

wtf is up with them

[quiet bay]

i bought from kbdfans though cause I wanted 50g raws lel

ik there's a spring pack but i did not wanna switch them all out respectfully

[glacial wind]

honestly I’m not buying the Jade pros though even for $30. I literally have nowhere to put these switches

what am I going to do with more switches that don’t have keyboards lol

[untold wigeon]

I’m about to get the sticky rice v2

Well, I got them already

[glacial wind]

Ew why

[untold wigeon]

Just in shipping

[untold wigeon]

Ew why ew why

[polar girder]

Well they would replace my black knights

[tawdry tree]

cheap af

[polar girder]

Which seems maybe worth

[glacial wind]

Yeah if you don’t have switches you’re happy with yet then it’s worth

[tawdry tree]

sticky rice v2 is closed bottom

[glacial wind]

I mostly have no use for em since I have ttc magneto pom and raw he already

[quiet bay]

just waiting for usps to get my package and deliver my raws c:

[polar girder]

Bruh I just want the best switch

But also quiet

And low tone

[glacial wind]

It’s just an odd pick considering what’s out there

[polar girder]

But current options suck for that lol

[untold wigeon]

I don’t think anything actually compares to those in terms of sound

[tawdry tree]

I like the silenced Magnetos

[glacial wind]

How so?

[polar girder]

TTC silence magnetos exist?

Not up on switch game tbh

[glacial wind]

am I thinking of the wrong switch or are sticky rice v2 just the cheap box stems?

[tawdry tree]

No, this mod here: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Oh

Yeah that’s alright

[untold wigeon]

They sound so much better than jades and geon tbh

[polar girder]

Still lame top out tho

[tawdry tree]

High potential. I think 0.2mm thick silicone washers would be optimal.

[polar girder]

Feeling is good?

[tawdry tree]

nah, the 1mm thick washer is squishy af

I’ll have some 0.5mm thick ones soon ish

[polar girder]

Oh shit I didn’t even watch second video lolol

[tawdry tree]

gonna see if that’s better

[glacial wind]

Do you have those other switches or are you going off videos?

[polar girder]

Ok yeah I tried those gamakay silent switches but lame feeling and sound

Quiet tho

[tawdry tree]

yeah def

quality is kinda shit

[polar girder]

Right

Jade pro with .5 silicone washer?

[tawdry tree]

yeah could

[untold wigeon]

I haven’t got my hands on them yet, still in shipping but I should get them this week

[tawdry tree]

washers fit in most switches

closed bottom ones are best ofc

[fallen pecan]

if you can buy from china, gateron has the new silent mag switches

[tawdry tree]

new not silent mag switches you mean? 😂

[untold wigeon]

Comparison wise I’m watching the same creator’s review so it’s pretty consistent

[polar girder]

Hmm curious. Yeah lmk your thoughts when you get .5’s

I don’t want squishy lol

[glacial wind]

I mean if you’re happy with them then sure, sound is relative even if your choice is different from everyone else

[tawdry tree]

prob will be late december

[polar girder]

Aight fair enough

[tawdry tree]

but will do

[polar girder]

Thanks

[latent scaffold]

@glacial wind what would be your thocky HE choice?

[glacial wind]

I wouldn’t go thocky on he because it’s all not actually thocky

[latent scaffold]

mythbusted

hah

[fallen pecan]

Theyre marketed as silent switches

[glacial wind]

It’s weird fake hollow thock sound that doesn’t sound that nice

[untold wigeon]

Yo wtf is this

[tawdry tree]

right, and that’s where all the silentness about it ends

just the name

😄

[quiet bay]

Gateron sticking to same design but changing one thing is the equivalent of Apple adding another camera to the phone 😭

[glacial wind]

In the end if you chase thock you just end up with a worse actual performing switch and hollow thock which is kind of meh

[fallen pecan]

oh yeah sander had a video with these switches

[glacial wind]

just embrace clacky and have a better more stable switch that performs better and have a proper non he thock switch in a non he keyboard

[fallen pecan]

https://youtu.be/cUu3yvDzwHg?si=zGbuWilOuuRzSM_B&t=208

[untold wigeon]

[fallen pecan]

at least quieter than jade pros

[untold wigeon]

Clack

[glacial wind]

chasing thock in he is a fools errand until there’s actually a real thock he switch

[untold wigeon]

No one wants clack

You can also mod it slightly, im going to film mine when they get here

[glacial wind]

The he ‘thock’ is so empty and hollow

Not clean at all

[untold wigeon]

Depends on what case you use

[latent scaffold]

I have debated whether I just stick with lekkers and lube them + stabs or switch to a jade pro/geon. Personally as someone new to keyboards I am generally happy with the lekkers I dont think they sound bad and are a pretty quiet. I agree that they arent the smoothest and there is a bit of stem wobble though.

[glacial wind]

No it doesn’t

[quiet bay]

its hte perfect time to get new switches right now

[untold wigeon]

Okay, u win

[glacial wind]

You can put your wooting in the worlds best case and your he thock is still going to be empty and hollow compared to what the actual ‘thock’ videos are getting with non he

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights and Lekker V2s are the most thocky HE has to offer currently.

If you’re coming from Lekker V1s, either will be an upgrade.

[tidal frigate]

Only fools think think thock. Is only options. Same goes with clack people. THATS WHY being true neutral, between clack and thock is only way to achive perfect HE sound

[quiet bay]

Raw hes on divinikey (US) or kbdfans
Jade pros on aliexpress has a good sale too