🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

oml

[lone plume]

keebtape = tape mod poron foam = case foam

[uneven cradle]

I have the weight is outrageous on a 60

[lone plume]

but i have to tell you cutting the poron foam need a very sharp blade tho

[stone flax]

omfgggg

[kind helm]

no wonder the first thing i get on search "leggrea case keyboard" is a frog mini

[fluid ravine]

wait im not gonna lie im somewhat impressed

[lone plume]

i did bought hobby knife to cut the layout

[stone flax]

but to go back to it

leggera so gud

[kind helm]

👀 sound test

it kinda looks like tray mount with little thing on the side in your pic

[stone flax]

its gonna be both

tray or gummy o-ring

[fluid ravine]

There ya go

[stone flax]

https://youtu.be/llJ8gM34qrM?t=4257

[gilded comet]

ya same i just wonder if the 3.5mm travel will cause deactuation problems with the magnet

[stone flax]

geon is a handsome man

[stone flax]

autocalibration makes that a non issue

as long as flux isnt insanely out there it can compensate for distance

[kind helm]

damn thats pretty good

[stone flax]

as it is now the only thing u need to worry about with non 4.0mm switches is that the slider setting in current wootility is more or less 0%-100% rather than actual distance

[kind helm]

Ithink the nipple case has better sound :3

[stone flax]

that is the nipple case

[gilded comet]

is autocalibration totally passive or do u have to do a process in wootility to calibrate it

[kind helm]

its so shiny

[gilded comet]

like wdym by auto, sorry, i havent done it b4

[stone flax]

yeah but u can always do it manually

1. Unplug the keyboard and swap the switch
2. Initial Calibration - Plug the keyboard in and wait 5 seconds to complete power on calibration (this is an initial reading of all switches)
3. Deep Calibration - This calibration occurs over time (Roughly 30-60 seconds with Tachyon mode enabled or roughly 2-5 minutes for non-tachyon depending on the model of your keyboard)
4. End of Press Calibration - The easiest way to calibrate the end of press is to press many times on the side of the key. You can't press too slowly and you need to give it a solid bottom out. Try to keep the presses consistent and steady (.5 seconds to full press and .5 seconds to full release). Completing 20-30 presses should be sufficient to fully calibrate.

[kind helm]

tried a few different clack setup with traditional keeb all sounded too harsh for me

[stone flax]

what plate

[gilded comet]

i see

[kind helm]

pc, i am waiting on fr4 rn

[stone flax]

RIP

[kind helm]

:3 whats wrong

[stone flax]

why do people cop fr4

genuinely

[kind helm]

tbh i brought it to 1. try it, 2. match with the stock style a bit more since the salvation came with fr4, 3. color looks cool

🤡

you know, just to see whats up. but i hear plenty of people say pc is the one

[gilded comet]

nipple case ???

[versed pasture]

Quick question, do Geon Raw HE on the 80he need specific stabs, like long pole or the regular works fine? https://geon.works/products/tx-ap-stabilizer-screw-in-long-pole?variant=44299327111331

[kind helm]

just a personal opinion but i think people tend to prefer the soft one since thock is more popular

[fluid ravine]

Depending on your keycap fitment, normal regulars work fine

If you're like unsure then you can go for long poles as well

[versed pasture]

I'd be using the stock keycaps so idek

[kind helm]

👀 i have used original plate mount with jade and raw, nothing crazy happened. you can force it to go weird if you slam your keyboard but if you are using it normally i think you cool

[fluid ravine]

yeah normally it's fine

but some keycaps can cause a seesaw affect

[kind helm]

like you can force the cap to tilt a tiny bit if you press down on one side of the space bar hard

[fluid ravine]

Some can be forced (which is fine at most) and some can come loose

and keep in mind wobble shift is normal

[versed pasture]

Alright thank you

[fluid ravine]

You would know if the seesaw affect happens if one side of the keycap let go of the stabilizer stem corresponding to it

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

for example

[kind helm]

i think you just gotta press on both side of the key cap when installing the ones with stabs

so it goes in evenly

[fluid ravine]

yes

[kind helm]

also i feel like with HE switches, i don't even try to press my key down all the way that much, so i only ever had that happened to me when i was building it and try to see how much force on one side would be a issue

[stone flax]

#gmkontop

[fluid ravine]

Real

[stone flax]

mmmmmmm

i need new keycaps

think i might go crp or kkb

[ruby hill]

Gmk red samurai

[lone plume]

cera key red!

[stone flax]

u decide what fits

but news flash man

white

gray

black

literally go well with anything

[ember coral]

will a gateron mx opener like this work

[dapper kernel]

yes although expensive

[kind helm]

6 times the price of a cheap one

[dawn kayak]

Hi I am looking for a box style switch that has similar actuation force as Lekker 45
I came across the Rice Pudding, would you guys recommend them or have alternative recomendation?

[glacial wind]

if your goal for choosing box stem is due to wobble of the switch, then i'd suggest just buy geon raw he switches

it's not box stem but very tight stem wobble

[dawn kayak]

thank you

[viral vine]

as someoje who just built with sticky rices

dont get em💀

so inconsistent

[honest sapphire]

only switch you should be looking at are geon raw he

i had jades and got raw he and they just feel ten times better

[viral vine]

how do filmed raws sound

[honest sapphire]

don't know I don't think they need them

[dawn kayak]

do geon raw need hand lubing? or is it facotry lubed?

[austere creek]

they are prelubed

ofc its just a factory lube job

[dawn kayak]

thank you

just ordered a geon raw

[versed pasture]

Is aliexpress safe for buying switches?

[random hull]

if ur talking about the geons, few of us got em off of there, i got my order on the way too

[versed pasture]

No wonder theres only 4 left

[random hull]

you can ask them to restock they probably have more, last time i asked they just upped the number

[vague stag]

my geon raws will arive tomorrow (if nothing unexpected happens) !!

will be interesting to hear how they sound stock v.s. hand lubed

[chilly mural]

Yey, first gmk. Time to wait for 80he.

hmm, unfortunately it doesn't quite fit with nuphy snow violet ghostbar, but I'll still use that regardless.

[vague stag]

what is meant by bullet 4. "on the side of the key" ?

[limpid crown]

When people tall about tolerances what do they mean ?

If I open my Geon Raws and later assemble them by hand, will that affect stem wobbling ?

[glacial wind]

Nah you’re good

[lean mist]

didn't find this till now yeah what someone said earlier it looks like i'll save myself time and money on the switch pads

[twin hearth]

anybody has a link to the transistors this keyboard uses?

the text on the transistor itself reads LQ403k, but unfortunately that is not yielding any results.

The reason why I need this, is that my friend is kinda sorta a moron, spilled some stuff on my keyboard and when I went to clean the PCB, I may have used a tad more force than I should've and now I've got four legless transistors

[ebon quiver]

[twin hearth]

my bad, well I assumed both the 80 and the 60 would use the same ones, but I have the 60He+

sorry, absolutely shit query from me, I'm just a bit flustered still

alright, thanks

[tawdry tree]

what happened?

[tawdry tree]

The edges of the keycap instead of the center. You can press and hold then wobble your finger around the edges, that’s more than good enough for testing.

[vague stag]

okay thanks, and that goes for all switches I guess?

[gilded isle]

Does your kbdfans cf plate has a super tight fit with tx ap? Screw ins or plate mount?

[sonic crystal]

Unfortunately not double shot PBT….

[chilly mural]

Ehh, idm

[stone flax]

what…. what does this mean 😭

[calm pulsar]

pbt (10% pbt 90% abs)

[stone flax]

well no duh diddy

why did guy said unfortunately

[uneven cradle]

Thank geon we got double shot abs instead

[calm pulsar]

because hippyo said…

[viral vine]

i have had 2 switches fail already and the typing feel is js super inconsistent

[stone flax]

Pbt is creamy thock and abs is thin and not thock

Grrrrrrrr

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/erbgutschaft-gif-3632807975273083313

[sonic crystal]

That’s what wooting is selling? Should double check

[calm pulsar]

it is rarely pure pbt on any set
except for gmk mtnu

[sonic crystal]

Very rarely you'll have something be 100% of the material. Don't be dillusional, however, if the majority is in the example PBT then we just say it is

Maybe some tags like what they do for gold coud help

[crimson sky]

mtnu is also not 100%

but they do use equal blends for both the inner and the outer shot

[stone flax]

my guy

😭

fruitless endeavor shit

dyesub pbt

doubleshot abs

95% of good keycaps right there

[sonic crystal]

I am double shot keycap guy

If I can't see the RGB through the legends, don’t @ me

[icy dew]

I agree

[flat cobalt]

https://clickclack.io/products/seal-mechanical-keyboard-kit

[crimson sky]

yea I am waiting for the regular GB

[flat cobalt]

no like cosmos?

[crimson sky]

yes

also I want a silver one

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhhh

[crimson sky]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123480.0

has some pretty colors in general

[flat cobalt]

That brown one is gorgeous

[tawdry tree]

Yeah.

[tawdry tree]

What do you mean by fail.

[cursive tusk]

a

[tawdry tree]

b

[viral vine]

stops registering inputs

[ruby hill]

Base on a review from China, a new TTC switch (not magneto) can allow the 80he with almost 0 deadzone (only 0.008mm)

[random hull]

do they sound good

[ruby hill]

No idea

[random hull]

can you share more info maybe can search if theres more known on it

[ruby hill]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1zH1zYcEHN

[random hull]

thanks

[ruby hill]

0.158 release
The lekker v2 almost .3

[glacial wind]

Is the magnet same strength though?

I remember geon raptor he could reduce deadzone too but that was because it was too strong magnet and caused the keyboard to think 0.1 was reached earlier

[devout torrent]

magnetos are like half the strenghth of everything else

[glacial wind]

these are the uranus though

[devout torrent]

oh I see another swtich

[glacial wind]

and apparently maybe they just list them wrong because people measured and the magnetos are same as jades lol

[devout torrent]

they look red in the video

uranus is orange/blue stems

so idk

Uranus Magnetic Switch-SE
Operating Force:32±6gf
Initial magnetic flux:90±15Gs
Bottom magnetic flux:480±70Gs
Total Travel:3.5±0.2mm

Uranus Magnetic Switch-Standard
Operating Force:32±6gf
Initial magnetic flux:90±15Gs
Bottom magnetic flux:480±70Gs
Total Travel:3.5±0.2mm

Uranus Magnetic Switch-eSports
Operating Force:35±5gf
Initial magnetic flux:90±15Gs
Bottom magnetic flux:480±70Gs
Total Travel:3.4±0.1mm

uranus seems similar

in magnet strength

[glacial wind]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256807515719980.html?

[fluid ravine]

Sometimes we just gotta have the best of the best

[glacial wind]

there's orange behind it in the video that i think is the one he's testing at the end

[devout torrent]

oh yeah you right

[fluid ravine]

At the best place and the best time (currently suffering in AP CS)

[calm pulsar]

low profile rubber dome

[fluid ravine]

Goated

[glacial wind]

those uranus are still $1 a switch though lol

i wonder how they sound

[fluid ravine]

"I'm an Asian, trying to get my money's worth"

[devout torrent]

ooof

[calm pulsar]

wait its you Thackson lol

[fluid ravine]

LMFAOO

Didn't even noticed

Hehe
We dressing up today

[calm pulsar]

im on vacation so rarely drop in here lately

[fluid ravine]

It's Halloween baby!

[glacial wind]

i wonder what the materials are in the ttc uranus too, because I don't like the sharp plastic sound of the magnetos

[fluid ravine]

Where ya at!

[calm pulsar]

Saint-Petersburg

[fluid ravine]

pulls up map

[calm pulsar]

not the one that’s in the US btw

[fluid ravine]

Wait isn't there a hurricane coming to Florida?

[fluid ravine]

OH

I was abt to say

[fluid ravine]

Russia right?

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[glacial wind]

maybe cam or one of the other switch collectors will order some ttc uranus esports lol

i am curious to hear their sound

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

Elden Ring typa stuff

[glacial wind]

wait this is so confusing actually

so ttc now has magneto, magneto rgb, uranus esports, uranus se and uranus standard

who does this switch naming scheme

[calm pulsar]

lol are they any different from each other? esports

[tropic urchin]

Praise golden marble

[glacial wind]

okay from what I can tell magneto rgb is just clear upgraded version of magneto, uranus is magneto without the gimmicky stem swapping thing and a tad cheaper

[ruby hill]

Which one is the orange stem?

[glacial wind]

but uranus comes in 3 spring lengths

[glacial wind]

uranus is orange stem

[ruby hill]

Standard?

[calm pulsar]

waiting for the gmk gold on black

[tropic urchin]

That would go actually kinda hard

[calm pulsar]

uranus sounds a bit more appealing

specwise I mean

[tropic urchin]

Call it GMK Last Eclipse for the group buy marketing

[glacial wind]

is the new magneto rgb

[tropic urchin]

Then queue up the Sun God artisan keys

[glacial wind]

so rgb magneto is kind of like ttc answer to jade max i think

just clear for max rgb

[kind helm]

still waiting on a he switch with double stage spring

[tropic urchin]

That could be the greatest switch ever made and idk if I could bring myself to buy it

[ruby hill]

Best to wait the pom stem version magneto

[calm pulsar]

there is a real new set coming, I think it’s actually called gold on black or gold AND black

[kind helm]

this?

[calm pulsar]

yup

[glacial wind]

enjoy your $100 switches

[tropic urchin]

That would go pretty well with the black zinc, kinda wish it had more gold novelties but maybe they do

[tropic urchin]

LMFAO

I can’t laugh but Jesus

That box stem is the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen

[kind helm]

i am waiting on a set that matches with my black case, but i am thinking more transparent, hopefully the fr4 plate is good with salvation and raw, then the keeb would look so damn sexy

[glacial wind]

uranus intrigue me but only if they don't sound like ass

[tropic urchin]

It is in the name

[glacial wind]

that sentence works on so many levels

[tropic urchin]

First heavenly switch Inc?

[kind helm]

is it good though, i went to check it out on a chinese site and i personally feel like its kinda meh at best

[glacial wind]

well problem for most so far is the sound. They seem to perform fine but they're really plasticky high pitch sounding

[twin totem]

Good evening guys, does the wooting 80he have north facing led? if so, do you think these keycaps would be a good match for the ghost case? https://www.kromekeycaps.com/collections/italian-keycaps/products/grey-italian-iso-it-dual-language-pbt-pudding-keycaps-1?variant=45987379773672

[kind helm]

also to me it sounds scratchy

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RQ1BYDEVp/?vd_source=3d56135165dc0ee3bbd7729fb5e69f1b sound test at 2:40

[glacial wind]

magneto rgb vs uranus series

uranus is only one I would be curious to try because price is a little lower it seems

still double the price of geon raw he though, but they're more in line with jade pricing

[kind helm]

damn it uses long spring

[glacial wind]

gateron also has jade gaming coming soon lol

[calm pulsar]

yeah the naming is crazy

[glacial wind]

probably to compete with ttc uranus esports

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

as if other HE switches are not gaming

[stray tiger]

Thats why we test them and record first hand the results. Manufacturers make mistakes

[glacial wind]

i'm curious to see what gateron prices jade gaming at

raw he is such a value pick right now so $35 for a set

[calm pulsar]

they got a ton of novelty sets I think

[placid blaze]

Here for my monthly check in, any developments in the silent switch space?
Last I heard Gateron announced silent jades and I think Geon Raw HEs were the go-to for most people

[ruby hill]

The 0 deadzone makes me wanna try the uranus esports

[placid blaze]

also what's up with the "esports" and "gaming" naming conventions 😭

[glacial wind]

careful. Deadzone doesn't mean good or bad

[tropic urchin]

It’s here

[glacial wind]

it could easily be just because the switch is 'tighter' the measurement device gets 0.15 less movement from the tiny bit less wobble left/right/up/down

so suddenly 0.15 less deadzone is really just 'this switch didn't tilt to the left by 0.15'

jesus i do not like the sound of any of the box stem switches though: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nZ1qYZEny/ sound test at 3:40

[kind helm]

the rgb one and the pro are okay

but the other two

[glacial wind]

why is it so loud and plasticky

[kind helm]

you can kinda tweak the sound with foam and s44t

[stray tiger]

There are very few box stem switches I enjoy (traditional MX or not). The wobble of the v1's made everyone want to jump to box stems but they werent aware of what that means for sound

[kind helm]

but jade i personally feel like there is no saving it

[calm pulsar]

finally

[tropic urchin]

US customs really HATES foreign packages bc the box got beat up a decent bit but they had bubblewrap 🙏🏻

[kind helm]

gateron g pro silver with double stage spring is hot af, but traditional switch

[ruby hill]

Raw he are pretty loud too, but very crispy

[stray tiger]

Jade was king until it wasnt. That's the same with RAW's today. The great news for end users is that more competition drives more choices. Gateron has already released like 9 HE switches this year and arent done

[kind helm]

smooth, snappy, and light

[devout torrent]

its so bad

[kind helm]

yeee which is good

i hope the companies don't hop on the optical or whatever that other new tech is and just work on he for a while longer

[tropic urchin]

They sound great in person, this keebs gotta arrive 😭

[calm pulsar]

ahh you don’t have it yet

how long?

[tropic urchin]

Mid November gang

I got time to lube em up

[tropic urchin]

They’ll be going into my GMK box shrine

[chilly mural]

more waiting

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I also have my final key cap iteration ready for when the keyboard gets here. I’m doing a 50/50 white blue novelty split 👀

[tropic urchin]

Gonna be painful, but after this week it’ll be mid October tho fwiw

[chilly mural]

I got my gmk, and raw he. I think I can buy a stab and lube to pass more time?

[tropic urchin]

I was debating doing the same, but I might try the syringe lube for the stabs and call it a day

[chilly mural]

fair enough

[stray tiger]

Which set did you get?

[chilly mural]

GMK Tuzi

with novelties

[stray tiger]

Nice! Love that set. Ive got it on one of my boards too

[calm pulsar]

sounds good

I got some newer black snail sets on the way
U9 mods, cream alphas and the little cherry set

going for the vintage look, never had that before

[tropic urchin]

The 2005 library pc keyboard is a look

[calm pulsar]

true lol

[tropic urchin]

Ooh wait is it this

[analog jetty]

hey, would switches that work on the 60he/80he work on the uwu? asking for a cat

[calm pulsar]

they got beige mods too

[ebon quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/teh-cat-comin-gif-18402983533302810716

[calm pulsar]

geon has more sets on geon.works

some dark and light modifiers

[tropic urchin]

Also, you’ll have to push down with the weight of Zeus on the maxes, I tried a Keycap out of morbid curiosity and it’s definitely a time

[ionic breach]

yes'

[calm pulsar]

you mean they are heavy?? I thought they had a relatively light spring

[tropic urchin]

The stem was a little weird, but might just be I have nothing to hold it properly so it felt like an awkward fit

[calm pulsar]

yeah in a complete build it is usually quite a different feel compared to in hand

[tropic urchin]

From my limited setup it does sound nice

[tropic urchin]

No

I have to cope with in hand, but it is what it is

White zinc 80HE

V1 case too 🔥

GMK Lazurite caps for day 1

Scratches not really, I’m going to avoid using the metal keycap pullers anyway, but those are erasable. I’m more worried about how US fulfillment is going to treat my package for chipping

Worst worst case I use the $40 for the raw or V2 white so no harm no foul

If it’s chipped on the left side that I can’t see and it’s small enough I probably won’t cause a big fuss

Not worth it at that point

That would be something

Whether or not the white zinc survives US customs will be the selling point for the travel case

Should put “Can survive American shipping and handling” as a new certification for marketing

[stray tiger]

@fluid ravine polyfill IYKYK https://youtu.be/2NSQ8H2QkRw?si=A3BlmCHIB3RgvNil

[cedar gate]

Nothing can survive fed ex

[ruby hill]

Glory to Geon

[tropic urchin]

Unstoppable force meets the immovable object 👀

[cedar gate]

🤣🤣

Sometimes I wonder if FedEx is trying to destroy the package just like Starbucks tries to spell your name wrong

One time I got den

[tropic urchin]

USPS kinda put a large dent into my Jade max box, but luckily it had ✨bubblewrap✨

[cedar gate]

Glory to bubblewrap

[fluid ravine]

CLOUDS

I love clouds

[regal path]

Hello everyone, I was seeing if I could get some input on my new mods for the 60. I ordered the PC Plate, as well as Sticky Rice Switches. I was planning on using the silicone pad that comes with the plate. I was curious if a tape mod would be possible/useful or any other additional mods I should consider. Any input would be much appreciated. I am using the stock case for now until my Holy comes in a couple months.

[cedar gate]

Tape mod is great but your switches have some issues

[cedar gate]

The only other mod I would recommend for you is maybe a different mounting style like a burger mount it's a great cheap mod that will be 10$ at most

[cedar gate]

Also keycap swap is worth considering if you want a different look but if your fine with stock that works too

[regal path]

For the tape mod u mean problem with the switches, or there's
problems with the switches in general? Also for the burger mount I ended up getting some spacers with my case that's coming in a couple months bc it's on preorder. As far as keycaps go I will get them down the line just keeping stock ones for now bc everything else costed me around $300 and now i'm broke so :/.

[cedar gate]

I don't know too much about it but I believe sticky rice switches are defective because if the tolerances and magnet strengths

[cedar gate]

Tape mod is fine but I'm 99.99% sure holy60 doesn't come with o rings

[pulsar patio]

Guys, i've bought designer studio v2 adaptive stabilizers, lubed them and they sound like this on spacebar. How can i fix it?)

Or what i did wrong in theory

Lubed with 205g0 on everything with light coat, then syringed inside wire

[fleet wave]

hey i purchased my wooting 60he is it possible to mod it to a tkl?

[ebon quiver]

not really, but also kinda (technically)

you could always get a separate numpad if you need more keys

[fleet wave]

well not just the numpad i just wanted arrow keys and the 6 Functions key

[ebon quiver]

i wanted to make a wireless attachment with f row for 60he, but 80he was around the corner so i just scrapped the idea

[glossy pagoda]

No this is not possible. We have the 80HE that includes function row and nav cluster though

[ebon quiver]

to illustrate the idea

[fleet wave]

once november rolls out for the batch, will i be able to reprogram the pg up and down button?

[glossy pagoda]

Can rebind all keys to anything

[fleet wave]

gptcja

gotcha* ty

[lone plume]

try tune your wire? or even hole mod it

and put grease on the wire where you clip to the housing

[velvet raft]

Should I hand lube raw he switches? Or leave stock

[tropic urchin]

I’d lube 1-3 and test them vs stock to see your preference

[versed pasture]

Are other brands coming out with magnetic switches? I’m hesitant to buy Geon Raws because I’m wondering if there are any upcoming releases that will sound better.

[quiet bay]

I remember I wanted to do smth like this but attach it to the monitor bezel lol

[versed pasture]

from my understanding the TTC Full POM Magneto Switches are coming out soon and would be the best sounding because the POM material making it creamier. Correct me if im wrong

[glacial wind]

the magnetos sound really not great

even with the best config

[versed pasture]

You don't think the new ones would sound better even

[tropic urchin]

I’m not sure there’s too much they could change that would make me interested but that’s just me

[glacial wind]

well right now i'd rate them as the worst of all the 'tight stem' options along with the other box stem switches, so even if they're improved 50% i'd still assume they sound pretty bad

that's sound wise that is

performance wise they seem okay

pretty much all the box stem switches seem to be extremely plasticky unfortunately

[stone flax]

“Pom material making it creamier”

[versed pasture]

I get that, just on a budget and dont want to make a purchase if something comes out in the next weeks u know

[glacial wind]

if you're on a budget you shouldn't even look at ttc to be honest

[versed pasture]

that i would regret

[glacial wind]

their price is way higher than other options

[versed pasture]

oh didnt know that

[glacial wind]

yeah it's literally $1 per switch

raw he are $0.48 per switch for reference

[versed pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[tropic urchin]

And sound infinitely better than the magnetos

[versed pasture]

Do i need to lube the raws?

or do they sound good stock

im lazy

[glacial wind]

they're good stock, although i like to lube the springs (but if you're not fussy then you can skip)

[ebon quiver]

0.64 for us european peasants, and that's while ordering from ali

[glacial wind]

perfect, then you get the joy of paying over $100 for magneto

wait till you see the conversion for magneto rgb, their even newer switch

[versed pasture]

At least your packages don't come abused

[ebon quiver]

or stolen

[versed pasture]

got lucky with mine

peaks during christmas times

[indigo ibex]

plate mount

[versed pasture]

has wooting released the cad for the 80he so aftermarket cases can be made?

also thanks for the insight

[ebon quiver]

not yet (publicly anyway)

[safe stag]

Returning to my good old jades, the jades max aren’t smooth enough

[tawdry tree]

Is that what he was measuring? It’s hard to see without the actual output of Analog Monitor. Normally, the only switches with a slightly smaller deadzone are shorter travel switches with a similar bottom out magnet strength compared to the Lekkers. So switches like the Jades, Raw HEs, TTC Magneto, Sticky Rices and more.

[safe stag]

don't buy jades

• a jade max owner

[ionic breach]

but the gold springs

and the Hi Fi sounds

[safe stag]

lmao

but the feeling is shitty, the price is shitty

[quiet bay]

That’s why you buy Raw Hes 😔🙏

[safe stag]

I still prefer the sound of the jades/jades max

but raw are the best option for most people for sure

[gilded forge]

I recently got these new Timseker PBT keycaps for my Wooting, but I feel like the keyboard is slower and less responsive when I press the keys. Normally, the keycaps should be compatible with my Wooting, correct?

[polar girder]

Oooo gold springs

I’m down

Buy Jade maxes just to harvest springs??

😈

[ionic breach]

imagine

[safe stag]

My rgb is sad now

[lean mist]

ima start slowly modding. first ima do a tape mod then see if i need to change the stock dampener

[pine bluff]

is it worth buying ceramic keycaps

they look really nice

[dull sequoia]

In that case, also dont buy Jade Pro, since that messes up RGB.
So normal Jades or RAW it is?

Anyways I guess everything is personal preference as always. The RGB on the Maxes really looks way better. The sound seems great as well. The feeling, well without testing them I couldnt say

[pine bluff]

anyone know if the lekker v2 rgb messes with the he switches

ive seen some of those problems on other keyboards

[uneven cradle]

not sure how it could but no

the rgb is built into the pcb not the switch

[crude kayak]

does anyone know if you can have 2 different HE switches at the same time without causing any problem ?

to be clear i currently have the jade but i was thinking about getting some Geon raw but my plan was to only use raw on the alphas

[tawdry tree]

Yes you can. It’s fine to use different switches in the same board.

[crude kayak]

nice thank you

[lean mist]

would yall say the factory lubing and stabs are good or does replacing them do much of a diff, i prefer a quite creme sound

[ionic breach]

its quite good imo

lube them more if you like it that way tho

[gaunt linden]

Which version of the geon raw switches is closest to the Jades?
The 30,50 or the 60’s?

[lean mist]

id say they are good enough im too lazy to lub them all

[fluid ravine]

i'd say 50

[lean mist]

thanks

[gaunt linden]

Thanks!

[lean mist]

30? i see 40?

[lean mist]

not related to the jades but which do you rec personally 40,50,60

[gaunt linden]

Yes i got it wrong it was 40

[fluid ravine]

I personally use 60grams

[lean mist]

can i get a why

[fluid ravine]

Can't say much, they feel pretty balance to me

[gaunt linden]

I meant to say Which one’s are the closest to the grams in the jades

[fluid ravine]

Not too heavy, not too light, but yet still got that good control feeling if you know what i mean

[gaunt linden]

BC i have the jades but trying to get the same for the raw ones

[fluid ravine]

If there was a dual stage spring for 60g i will def pick a pack up for myself

[fluid ravine]

I like 50grams as well, it's well balanced. Just the sweet spot for most people I'd say

[gaunt linden]

Yes i think i will get the 50’s then

[fluid ravine]

Totally didn't use CAM's 50g raws at one point..

totally..

[lean mist]

what dat do

[fluid ravine]

The design of the two-stage spring makes it longer than a normal “one-stage” spring. This means that the spring is compressed more than a one-stage spring during the unactivated state, and it reaches its bottom out weight more quickly. This makes the downpress feel more firm and consistent, as there is a smaller range of forces between the beginning of the keypress until bottom out or even actuation. In addition, the upstroke after lifting your finger is noticeably faster, meaning that there is the ability to rapidly repeat keystrokes in a shorter amount of time. Two-stage springs are also less likely to have spring ping because being more compressed even in the unactivated state means that there is less room for the spring to move/rotate around.

[lean mist]

ah but they dont have them unfortunate

i think the 50g look like they might be my go to but i can order 1 of each to truly get a feel @fluid ravine

would you say the raw he prelub is good too

[polar girder]

Need Geon pingless gold three stage 30g spring

Gold is mo’ better, right??

[ionic breach]

ofc

[gaunt linden]

Link?

[fluid ravine]

Totally!!!

Just gotta pay the price

[fluid ravine]

Yes the prelube is good on the RAWs

[fluid ravine]

Dunno about this tbh

It'd be kinda weird to mix and match I'd say

[lean mist]

id order one of each to test before i order for the whole keyboard

[gaunt linden]

I only see 57g and +

Where Can i buyeeeem!!!

[fluid ravine]

For...

[gaunt linden]

I mean Which are the best springs out there ?

[untold wigeon]

God the people on the Finalmouse Discord are just the worst kind of people

I hate going there for help

[fluid ravine]

wha happan :0

[untold wigeon]

Was having a slam clicking issue and dude was a total toolbag

[fluid ravine]

Preference

Depends on what weight you want and what type of spring you're looking for

[gaunt linden]

Three stages are better?

[untold wigeon]

Preference

[minor gust]

i ordered 50g set, my doubt is whether geon raws comes with pingless or just normal springs

[ionic breach]

normal i think

[fluid ravine]

I dont think there's 3 Stage He Springs yet

there's single stage and dual right now

i think there's a longer single stage spring as well?

[deft turtle]

Chat need ideas for linear switches. Planning to get a new keyboard for my Mac.

I’m thinking of getting a silent one

[polar girder]

20mm yeah

[deft turtle]

Don’t like clicky switches

[gaunt linden]

So the only compatible ones are the “HE” ones

[fluid ravine]

yes

HE and MX have different internal dimensions for all the parts of the switch

HE being bigger ofc

[loud zephyr]

any one of these, I guess https://cannonkeys.com/search?q=silent

[fathom crescent]

Can any keyboard schizo suggest high pitched or loud switches
Sotc or hmx macchiato are my current choices

[stray tiger]

TTC Magneto is the loudest/highest atm

[fathom crescent]

[quiet bay]

magneto is kinda mid, what about raws?

[lean mist]

work with wooting no issue?

[fluid ravine]

Yes

Works in Hall Effect switches

Not just "Wooting"

[lean mist]

ooh now i feel that would make a diff

[fluid ravine]

It's just spring swapping into different gf

[lean mist]

no you right i was asking if the actuators would get freaky

[fluid ravine]

That has to do with the magnets and sensor

[lean mist]

ah i learn

[fluid ravine]

Springs just force rating
Nothing else

[lean mist]

well pingless i assume would affect sound

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

So you don't have to lube them

When there's spring ping you lube them

[lean mist]

okay well i feel it's worth then

[jolly urchin]

does anybody know what size spacebar the 80he uses

[gilded forge]

I recently got these new Timseker PBT keycaps for my Wooting, but I feel like the keyboard is slower and less responsive when I press the keys. Normally, the keycaps should be compatible with my Wooting?

[fluid ravine]

6.25u

[tiny summit]

Has anyone needed to replace the poron pad foam under the leaf springs for the salvation case? If so, were you able to find a replacement? 🙂

[jolly urchin]

Thank you!

[jade storm]

@deft turtle I do, had both. What's up

[quiet jewel]

I might have a little gap so i gotta rescrew the pcb in 😭

[robust siren]

i have this too

i didnt try closing the gap

[cedar gate]

More people with good taste in keycaps

[robust siren]

now theres 3 same builds xd

black tofu with pbt crosshairs

[quiet jewel]

But when i move the cable a certain way

Itll just kinda like

Disconnect the keyboard

[robust siren]

really? i never had that issue

[cedar gate]

Exactly what I got

[quiet jewel]

Well its not that much if a issue but only if i move the tip

Is it worth fixing it

[quiet jewel]

Im based in got raws switches in here

[robust siren]

do you move your keeb alot?

[quiet jewel]

Not much

[robust siren]

ehh should be fine

(before i got fr4 and sw knights)

^

[cedar gate]

ME TOO

I way overpayed for the jades and someone told me raws were better and they were cheap so I got some of those

[robust siren]

raws in both of my images

[spark totem]

ohhhhhhhhh crap

i stripped a case screw trying to fix my spacebar stabs again

[robust siren]

💀

again?

[fluid ravine]

hah i could never

like personally i wouldve just dremel it right off

[spark totem]

yeah

i just dont understand why i need to be messing around with all this in the first place

[lean mist]

i thought the stock stabs were fine

[spark totem]

stabs themselves were fine just screwed on way too tight so it caused my spacebar to pop out

[lean mist]

oof

yeah

[spark totem]

but yeah I put too much pressure while unscrewing back of case one of the times I was adjusting the tightness

[safe stag]

are the jades pro as smooth as the OG jades ?

[vague stag]

Are packing foams conductive? I am considering whether the packing foam in the Tofu60 redux box could serve as a good case foam? 👀

But don’t know whether it is conducive or not

[random hull]

as a last resort asked swagkeys if 4.5u stabs would be an option but they said only if there is demand, which there is obviously never going to be so I will get the XHT-BDZ as suggested for my stabs

[nova fractal]

no but they do carry a static charge sometimes, which probably isn't great.

I just know it sticks to me when I move it around too much

[vague stag]

Thanks! I will not proceed with the idea, not worth the risk. But I am having a hard time finding a similar foam to the stock wooting 60 that would fill the whole tofu

[compact condor]

Wooting80he with WS dash, Cerakeys, sorbothane, and hemp weave cloth

[nova fractal]

I ended up having to get a big sheet to use but I'm not sure of the most efficient route 😓

[muted sapphire]

ewwww get the geon raws

[safe stag]

I prefer the sound of OG jades

[vague stag]

Will pick up my geon’s today!!

[muted sapphire]

lesgo

[nova fractal]

that's so hype

[muted sapphire]

i got mine some weekds ago waaaaay before the keyboard

i don't know if i want to change the stabs

[ionic breach]

nah

[muted sapphire]

cuz i haven't really done anything

nah the fetus guy

hahaha how u doing?

[ionic breach]

im telling u not to spend money :)

[ionic breach]

great

[muted sapphire]

finally

[ionic breach]

u?

[muted sapphire]

i wanna buy the cerakeys 😔

so not good

[ionic breach]

[muted sapphire]

am not sure man😭

[vague stag]

https://a.co/d/0Bc12pM

Would 3mm be enough?

[nova fractal]

I think it'd be a bit thick but I'm not sure

[calm pulsar]

jade maxes arrived, will pick em up tomorrow

[safe stag]

haha ...

[calm pulsar]

lmao the name

[safe stag]

you made a big mistake

[calm pulsar]

I do have raws so I ordered these for science

[safe stag]

like me

science is expensive sometimes

and not worth the invesment

[chilly mural]

More data the better

[calm pulsar]

true, but I had to see for myself

[calm pulsar]

what did you not like specifically?

[chilly mural]

Because if a lot of people says it's mid and recommended geon raw the better

Unless they want rgb

[safe stag]

the non-smoothness, the price, the factory lube

[calm pulsar]

I see, so I guess the dual rail thing is not good after all

[safe stag]

yeah

the "similar to dual rail structure"

[calm pulsar]

or the stem material

[safe stag]

maybe both, because I tried to put a max top housing on a OG jade, and the problem was still there

[random hull]

hmm aliexpress has something similar, dont feel too great about spending that much for some foam

but yeah, 0.3 too

not sure if that is actually too much

[safe stag]

I hope jades pro don't have the same problem

[vague stag]

Anyone know how thick the stock foam is?

I think that the case foam included in the tofu (poron) does not really do the job of muting the hollowness and overall sound of the case

Would painters tape help? I’m thinking of taping the whole bottom of the case

[random hull]

i guess ill wait until i find out differences between other mods ive seen like tapemod and that polyfil, not really sure i even know if this is better than the piece of foam it ships with

[uneven cradle]

It's alright remove foam

[calm pulsar]

pretty sure they are just cleaner sounding OG jades so can’t go wrong with them

[nova fractal]

yup but some of it is conductive you gotta make sure you have the right one

[little glen]

Use flex tape

Rip it off take all the surface mounted components with it

[safe stag]

and compared to lekkers v2, I remember my OG lekkers (1.5 I think) sounded thockier than other he switches on the market. Is that still the case with v2 and are they good ?

[calm pulsar]

I only ever had lekker v1s and replaced them as soon as jades came out, so not sure abt this

lekkers are considered “thockier” by most here, cause they are open bottom

but honestly it’s just emptiness and not the original “thock” so I prefer closed bottoms anyways

[vague stag]

Do you mean that the non adhesive side is conductive?

[nova fractal]

no it's the adhesive of some of them that's conductive iirc but I think it'll say on the packaging if it's conductive or not, at least it did on mine

99% of them should be good though

[dull sequoia]

Depends... If you want "accurate" colors and not everything a bit greenish, you should stick with original Jades

[calm pulsar]

true
personally I don’t use rgb

[dull sequoia]

They also sound a bit different, depending on the board you are using:
https://youtu.be/6Zza24mKFzY?si=kA8CWJFCHjBL4-Ih

[prime orbit]

Raw HE the goat still?

[glacial wind]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-11928667053720670991

[chilly mural]

raw he sound soo nice

[ebon quiver]

raws arriving today and knight stabs on friday

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[ebon quiver]

decided to give knights a try and have my own experience about them vs stock

[candid wolf]

Hi guys, today I received the geon raw he, I also purchased the Swagkeys Knight Stabilizer V2 stabilizers! What else do I need to know before assembling it?

[vague stag]

Lube stabs!

[candid wolf]

Stop ?

Entra else ?

Any

[celest parrot]

Will this work good as a dampening foam?

[dapper obsidian]

are you sure you want dampening foam tho?

the more foam, the less lower frequency sounds and more highs

[celest parrot]

My end goal is to get my keyboard to sound deep and low pitched

[calm pulsar]

be careful to not deaden the sound completely

[candid wolf]

Swagkeys Knight Stabilizer V2 can you tell me if they are mounted like the originals? or screws must be used to mount it

[celest parrot]

I'm gonna put this foam and tape mod and some other type of foam also

[polar girder]

Why?

[polar girder]

Screw in

[candid wolf]

But my h60 have hole ??

X this ?

[ionic breach]

60he or 60he+

[candid wolf]

60

He

[ionic breach]

go back in time

[candid wolf]

?

[ionic breach]

and unpurchase ur knights

[candid wolf]

I asked a week ago and I linked these! amazing that incapable there are here

and I also answered mountain only with the geon

[ionic breach]

60he+ have holes that allow it to use screw in stabs

the 60he does not

[candid wolf]

what stabilizers should I take? do you have any advice?

I had specified what model I had! incompetent in here

[dusty wasp]

Thx for testing I’m just considering geon raw he

[candid wolf]

what stabilizers should I take? do you have any advice?

the moderator can’t let this guy talk! misinformation is being created!

[ionic breach]

[candid wolf]

No funny

I ASK

[ionic breach]

i just dont know much about the best plate mounted stabs rn

i dont want to give you bad advice

probably durock but im not 100%

[candid wolf]

Thx

But is compatible?

[ionic breach]

Look out for "plate mounted"

the original wooting 60he uses that

[candid wolf]

these also need to be threaded

[stone flax]

If u have a 60he non+ look for platemounts

simple as that

xd

[ebon quiver]

just installed a few raws, noticed in wootility the actuation visualizer goes to 3.3mm and then jumps to 4mm when bottoming out

that's how they're supposed to behave ye?

[stone flax]

it is how it behaves for now

[ebon quiver]

i guess that's so they can properly utilize dks and all that?

[stone flax]

since theres no switch selectir that accounts for changes in total travel

[stone flax]

nothing to do with that

its just a scale for now

4.0 is 100

0 is 0%

Use a conversion

and it will apply the same

[ebon quiver]

i see, did someone post a conversion in here or i'm misremembering?

[stone flax]

its literally just raw (or any other switches travel) divided by 4.0

[candid wolf]

Can y link me ? I cant Find

[stone flax]

multiplied by wootility

[ebon quiver]

right, makes sense, cheers

[stone flax]

it is a type of stabilizer

[ebon quiver]

also raws seem less scratchy than lekkers v2, slightly less wobble too

[candid wolf]

Ok

one last piece of information, can I install the geons directly on the h 60?

[ebon quiver]

now i just need some willpower to finish pulling out the rest of the lekkers

god it's tedious

[calm pulsar]

switches are installed the same way as the stock ones so yeah

[ebon quiver]

oh, used the keys a bit, now it doesn't jump anymore and goes smoothly from 0 to 4, guess it needed to calibrate

[untold wigeon]

Hoodlum stinking Mourning Doves. They ganging up on people out here

[calm pulsar]

is that a mustang in the front?

[untold wigeon]

Yes that’s my Mustang

[calm pulsar]

nice, very cool

[untold wigeon]

Why Ty!

[candid wolf]

Nice Is there any need for me to do anything else? Does everything work as before? Rapid trigger etc?

[calm pulsar]

yes any compatible switch works with any features like rapid trigger and stuff

rgb colors might be affected due to different housing colors but on geon raw he it’s not an issue

[sweet roost]

anyone has good keycaps for the 80he raw case ?

[calm pulsar]

the blacked out build

[candid wolf]

thank you very much

[ebon quiver]

i got neon r2 for ghost case, but contemplating getting raw case as i feel it might look pretty good with those keycaps

[candid wolf]

Kindly someone more expert can link me some stabilizers for H60? H60 …

[sweet roost]

idk about neon r2

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0CRSWR1KW

those ar ethe one im currently thinking of

[ebon quiver]

gmk cosmos also seems good

[sweet roost]

150

is crazy

the letters and shit are not on the keycaps right

[ebon quiver]

raw with black keycaps in general seems like the way to go

[sweet roost]

idk if I like that

looks decent

my I thought the flow of the look could match good with the flow of the raw

but they kinda changed the look of the raw

do the gmk cosmos keycaps shine through?

[calm pulsar]

none of gmk sets shine through

[little glen]

It‘s black on black

No

[dull sequoia]

If you change the switches it might be necessary to reset the Wooting once to recalibrate. Was necessary for me.

[sweet roost]

fuck the gmk cosmos look clean

dumb q but https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-cosmos?variant=42541948010607

is the "deskmat" a mousepad?

or how cna I understand that

[calm pulsar]

pretty much yeah, just big

[calm pulsar]

keep in mind it is a group buy and actual manufacturing might take like 6 months

[sweet roost]

gg

[calm pulsar]

that’s how it goes with gmk, limited amount of sets, the designs from the community

[sweet roost]

are there any gmk that I can actually buy and get like withing the next month

[ionic breach]

a couple

[candid wolf]

Thx

[calm pulsar]

there are in stock sets on some vendors

[ionic breach]

just check the timeline or if they are instock

[calm pulsar]

just stay away from gmkkeycap and gmkkeycaps dot com cause they sell fakes

@sweet roost

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[sweet roost]

damn

ty

I cant describe how tilted I am that the gmk cosmos are delivered in like 5-6 month

[calm pulsar]

true, but this set only recently passed the interest check so yeah the only way to get it is participate in group buy and wait unfortunately

[inland saddle]

Just go to mechmarket and buy second hand plenty people selling even brand new ones that’s how I bought mine

[polar girder]

lol imagine finding out about them 4 months ago and then waiting for opportunity to buy them for opportunity to receive them 6 months later

[minor gust]

i will go with neon r2

[ionic breach]

its funny how big this set is

and there is just a few keycaps for a sample

[calm pulsar]

lmao yeah

funny how I discovered GMK Taiga and bought it new from a guy, who waited 2 years for it to be manufactured

[chilly mural]

soo long

People's taste can change drastically by then, no wonder

[calm pulsar]

yeah but the more recent sets won’t take that long

[polar girder]

lol fr

[tropic urchin]

The true GMK ✨experience✨

[polar girder]

I’m lowkey skeptical of cosmos

Like I won’t be surprised if I’m disappointed

[calm pulsar]

me as fuck

[polar girder]

But TBD

[chilly mural]

Having a nice vibrant white dust on keycap could be nice, but I'm like 50/50 on the design.

[polar girder]

I’m more excited for PBS BoB lol

But will buy both and see what happens

[calm pulsar]

what happens is money disappears from your account

[chilly mural]

no money, but keycap is keycap

[calm pulsar]

just a bird

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar here you go, Mustang cold start. Sounds so mean.

[cosmic marsh]

Anyone has good switches for Wooting 2he?
Andy ideas?

[calm pulsar]

sounds better than v1s🤠

[untold wigeon]

lol. Sure does!

[prime orbit]

Best stabs?

[glacial wind]

knight v2 or typeplus

[prime orbit]

Kk

Any of these?

[glacial wind]

yeah.

typeplus is only in non long pole though if you care about that

[prime orbit]

What’s the difference

[glacial wind]

long pole is made just in case you have the wobbling space bar issue with loose keycaps on long pole length switches such as the raw he, jades etc

generally you're fine without worrying about it though if you have decent keycaps

[prime orbit]

So if I’m getting raw he?

Ah ok

[polar girder]

lol yeah that’s keyboard hobby for you

[ebon quiver]

Just to be sure I'm understanding this correctly, this is how raws behave before they get calibrated (pressed fully however many times it takes to calibrate a key)

And if I unplug the keyboard the calibration is lost?

[tiny summit]

Has anyone needed to replace the poron pad foam under the leaf springs for the salvation case? If so, were you able to find a replacement? I needed to remove them because I'm sending the case out to be ceracoated 🙂👀

[glacial wind]

Yeah that’s normal and it auto calibrates every time and ongoing as you use it as well

[ebon quiver]

Hm, and if I just power off the pc (or restart) calibration remains intact?

I guess this stuff is gonna be remedied when the switch selector is added

[glacial wind]

If you power off keyboard and repower it then it’ll recalibrate again

[ebon quiver]

i see

also, got the full board of raws now, seems alright although so far not a substantial upgrade from lekkers v2 as far as feelings goes, definitely more interesting sound to it though

[celest parrot]

I'll be lucky enough to test them both soon, but from the sound test I heard I liked the sound of lekkers more than the raw he.

[dawn stag]

how long does calibration take every time

[glacial wind]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[ebon quiver]

so far i wouldn't say i'm too thrilled about spending $60 on them, but i don't care about sound (they're louder than lekkers)

gonna see how they're feeling after i put some use on them

[glacial wind]

why did you pay $60?

[celest parrot]

Oh that's is expensive I got them from ali for $28

[glacial wind]

did you order before they were on aliexpress?

[ebon quiver]

on ali they're $58 for 90 switches if you're from europe (additional taxes)

less without vat i would assume

[glacial wind]

oh. Wonder if delta keys is the way to go then

[ebon quiver]

nah, delta is even worse, let me get you the exact price, sec

[glacial wind]

delta is 45 euro for 90 pre shipping

[ebon quiver]

$69

[glacial wind]

eh, is your country special taxes?

your prices seem way higher than everyone else

what country is this in eu?

[ebon quiver]

poland, that's just vat i would assume

[glacial wind]

i guess you guys have some sort of higher tax or something

[ebon quiver]

without shipping they're 54 euro for 90

but ye, ali was 11 bucks cheaper

[glacial wind]

it sounds like you're not that fussy on stem wobble either

most folks notice the stem difference a lot more

[ebon quiver]

i can tell they're less wobbly, but it's not something that bugged me too much on v2s, v1s were terrible for it though

i mostly care about smoothness, how scratchy a key feels when you press it off center (more on a side of a keycap, etc), raws do seem better in that regard although i got a couple of raw switches that feel scratchy, thankfully there are spares

but hard to tell if the difference justifies the $$

[glacial wind]

poland vat seems kind of crazy

i think you're paying literally 2x the cost of most other places for raw he

[ebon quiver]

no brainer if you're coming from v1s though, and they are cheaper than v2s if you're ordering from ali

[quiet jewel]

I bought my switches from KBDfans

[ebon quiver]

ye it do be like that, would've been 44 bucks without vat
it's like 30% difference

no idea why so high though as it's usually 23% or something like that

[dusty pebble]

oh my god - the plastic standoffs on my 2HE are just broken

that's where you screw the plate in

with 15 screws

7 out of 15 are just broken lol

[untold wigeon]

Fill the gap with superglue and ziptie it closed

[dusty pebble]

superglue is my only option

they just break apart

[little glen]

What the

[dapper kernel]

metal > plastic

[dusty pebble]

ok this is the last picture - had to remove the PCB for this one

it broke into three pieces

[icy dew]

That sucks

[tawdry tree]

No but the O-Ring detection is too aggressive on the 80HE. Will be fixed in the near future hopefully.

[tawdry tree]

It’s a bug, you can trigger the full calibration for some Raw HEs when you press hard. Then it’ll behave normal without the jump from 3.25mm to 4.

[candid wolf]

can they interest anyone? It's new, never used! wrong purchase! ordered from the parent site

[pulsar schooner]

V1’s or v2’s?

[candid wolf]

V2

[glacial wind]

Oh you got the new new v2

That’s the new packaging one with different color wire

[celest parrot]

I ordered mine like 2 days ago. Will there be a difference between this new one and the OG one?

[candid wolf]

If you are interested or need photos, just ask!

[celest parrot]

Nah I'm good but why are you selling a good stabs?

[tropic urchin]

Those knights look so good 👀

I might have to replace wootings stock with those to complete the jade max build

[untold wigeon]

I know some of you use them.

https://www.youtube.com/live/VHcA3kgdqPs?si=20sN9ux4kpfYzMQg

[candid wolf]

Have 60 h 😑

Plate mount

😑😑

[devout torrent]

You in US?

[candid wolf]

Europe sir

Sorry

[devout torrent]

Rip

[calm pulsar]

I was planning to make some pics with jade maxes and clear knights

[glacial wind]

Nah doesn’t matter

[uneven cradle]

Are they revealing they are delaying the centrepiece once again

[untold wigeon]

lol probably.

[glacial wind]

The irony is their 8k competitive polling won’t be used by pros because it reduces framerate and pros rarely even use 2-4k currently

Mouse 8k polling is not the way

[calm pulsar]

yeah my main concern was why would I sacrifice framerate for like 1ms of latency

which might even be cancelled out by the strain on CPU

[tropic urchin]

That’s some king shit right there

Lmk how difficult it is to prepare those stabs

Probably won’t be but I’m a novice 😅

[calm pulsar]

sure, I’ve installed diff stab models before but not such high end ones

should be a breeze tho

[tropic urchin]

I’m still tryna get the geon switch opener to open my maxes but I’m prob gonna have to watch a video on it, mfers felt like they didn’t fit but I’m 100% not doing something right

[calm pulsar]

hmm send pics maybe?

[tropic urchin]

Going to be the equivalent Just needing to turn on my monitor first 🤣

[tropic urchin]

I’ll give it a shot once I’m home from work in a couple hrs

[calm pulsar]

I think maxes should not be that different from other switches in terms of opening them

edited btw lol

[tropic urchin]

My brain autocorrected for you 🤣

[untold wigeon]

Ulx Competition

[rough stratus]

hey anyone got tokaku uwu switches? id love to trade mine or buy them off you.

[gilded isle]

anyone knows what to do when the stabilizers are stuck in the pcb and can't remove? super tight fit on the plate.

[dusty pebble]

wdym cant remove?

i am currently installing new stabs

[uneven cradle]

I see they did the classic it's 30 grams

But when they actually revealed the weight it starts at 33

[untold wigeon]

Yeah. Ngl tournament scroll is pretty cool

[dusty pebble]

is the spacebar on the 2he 6U or 6.25U

[glacial wind]

Meh still rather have the Pulsar fingertip mouse next year

I can’t believe that announcement montage dragged on for so long for what was just a minor ulx change, 8k software no one really uses and scroll wheel stuff

[calm pulsar]

I’m gonna board a plane to fly home soon so won’t be able to
look at your pics but just try to put the switch onto 4 smaller posts, not 2 big ones and should be good

[tropic urchin]

Aye aye Captain 🫡

[uneven cradle]

All that for barely any info and no price

[gilded isle]

Yea, can’t remove the plate from the stabilizers because they are stiff

[dusty pebble]

you want to press in that little clip and lift the stabilizer from there

[unique jetty]

Is there a “best” HE switch for gaming?

[agile grove]

no

[dusty pebble]

if that doesnt work for you flip the plate around and press in the clip from behind

[gilded isle]

Mines are tx ap screw ins

So

They stuck

Hahahaha

Recommendation for new stabs? Aside from swagkeys as they are not available on my country

[dusty pebble]

ohhh

[celest parrot]

yo they said centerpiece will not have switches??

like how is that even phisclly possibe

[glacial wind]

Finalboy sounding less and less believable the more he talks

[celest parrot]

yeah I agree

[gilded isle]

Will try to remove then now hahaah

[glacial wind]

Probably tmr sensor or similar

[celest parrot]

ima say wooting still on top

[glacial wind]

He has to be lying though and just listing random features he wants at this point though because he’s claiming it’ll do too many things

[celest parrot]

yeah like the stream deck

[glacial wind]

He’ll release the keyboard with 1/10 of the features he’s mentioned today and say rest is coming - because you need an entire team of engineers just to do one of the features he mentions. Zero chance he can do all of that by December

[celest parrot]

yeah like the 8k polling lol

i had a third patch ulx and today the releases the offical firmware

[devout torrent]

they probably gave up and are just using magic75 oem

where it uses a touchscreen + rubber come cover sheet

https://www.ds-keyboard.com/

another similar board

[glacial wind]

The funniest part is finalboy is already using delay incoming language

He said reveal date instead of launch date and said December is “on the table” instead of it’s on track for December

[devout torrent]

lmfao

classic

[vague stag]

eeeeh okay, justintalled and hand lube the geon's, OMG- they feel and sound så great!

[glacial wind]

Another satisfied member of the church of geon

[chilly mural]

Yey

[vague stag]

The only thing I am really disappointed with is the space bar on the PBTfans BoW set, the let shines through really bad

[gilded isle]

What can you say about the stabs?

[vague stag]

bad'

😄

might need to buy foam then

[ebon quiver]

couldn't figure out what felt off about raws, like it sticks at the top and you have to apply extra force to overcome it

turns out those surfaces have a bunch of lube on them and it literally makes plunger stick to the top housing

removed lube from a bunch of spares to see if it's any different, and ye, lube makes them sticky

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[vague stag]

will look into that tomorrow

[ebon quiver]

ye, the clack is more pronounced now

i dunno if my batch is somehow overlubed, but now i can't "unfeel" it

gonna have to take them out and relube

ye, it's been years since i lubed switches

swore to never do it again

also gave two switches to wife for a blind test and she immediately figured out the sticky one lol

[tropic urchin]

I’ve never tried lubing them, but debating to do it for my maxes. Gonna be a lot of hrs wasted but it’s w/e

[ebon quiver]

no idea tbh, maybe i am more sensitive to this thing as i look for smooth and linear specifically

[stone flax]

theres a term for this

syringing

occurs when lack of air on upstroke

[tropic urchin]

Lots of time too til the board arrives 👀

[stone flax]

also accompanied by slow upstroke bc most of the time it means stem and sliders are very tight/lack of space made bc of excess lube

[ebon quiver]

this is not what i'm talking about, i'm talking about downward stroke and start of the press

[stone flax]

that still occurs and is referred to as syringing

😭

tf

[ebon quiver]

like if you take the switch apart and just leave plunger in the top housing without the bottom stuff it just stays there

glued by lube lmao

[stone flax]

tolerance is way too tight, embellished by lube on those points, travel is unsmooth

[stone flax]

💀

sussy moment

[ebon quiver]

besides that it's pretty damn smooth and doesn't feel like something is too tight

just sticky stuff doing sticky things

[stone flax]

well…. If it gets to the point lube is physically preventing travel

[marsh saffron]

Ayo

[stone flax]

thats by definition tight

[ebon quiver]

no, it's just two surfaces being held together by lube

[marsh saffron]

Which typically wouldn't happen unless the tolerances of said surfaces are extremely tight

[ebon quiver]

i feel like people didn't look at the picture where i marked which surfaces are sticking together

it's the horizontal surfaces, not vertical

and tolerances have nothing to do with it in that case

[stone flax]

….thats syringe effect but ok

[marsh saffron]

Does that entire area not make contact with the stem?

[stone flax]

any other switch can have ample amounts of lube between the stem and housings

but if they dont match that same tight tolerances

they wouldnt “stick”

unless ur batch of raws uses grease or smthng else

thats just the nature of it

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I don't think the lube itself is strong enough to hold it on without any sort of syringing going on

[ebon quiver]

it literally is strong enough lol

[stone flax]

tolerances too tight —> tiny bit of lube makes the difference between “sticking” and not sticking

[marsh saffron]

If it were grease sure