🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

it depends but it can

if u have some on hand no harm in trying

[stray tiger]

Do you have a 3d printer?

[stone flax]

but expressly buying o-rings without consideration for wideness is uh sussy

[vague stag]

Nope

[tawdry tree]

can cause friction but you should give it a shot.

[stray tiger]

If you know someone who does, there are printable spacers

https://grabcad.com/library/north-facing-washer-for-cherry-mx-switches-1

[vague stag]

I’m just a bit tired of buying $2 of stuff and paying $10-15 in shipping. 😂 these o-rings I can find in local e-stores

Will try the o-rings if needed

[tawdry tree]

which stabs do you have?

[lapis elm]

Hi everyone, I'd like to change the stabs for my FullSize HE 2? Is there a spreadsheet or recommendation for stabs that are compatible?

[vague stag]

Stock 60he+

[tawdry tree]

Most plate mounts will do

[tawdry tree]

Ah, then I’m not sure if O-Rings are a good idea. They might interfere with the stab housing

[vague stag]

Hmm

[uneven cradle]

I use tx ap plate mounts

[tawdry tree]

If you have them, try. If not, don’t buy them specifically for that purpose.

[vague stag]

Let’s just hope the G Raw don’t screw up the spacebar

[lapis elm]

any complains with them?

[tawdry tree]

With Stock or decent quality keycaps you’re fine.

[uneven cradle]

Nope, I just lubed them with some 205g0

[vague stag]

Great! Keep hearing different versions of that

[robust siren]

40 grams too light for the spacebar

[vague stag]

I’ll just sit tight

[lapis elm]

the ones that comes with the HE 2, are terrible

Thank you for the recommendation

[vague stag]

Went with 50

[uneven cradle]

Could probably fix the "horrible" with some lube also the stock stabs themselves aren't bad

[robust siren]

50 should be enough

[lapis elm]

I might have lubbed them wrong but yeah, they are super rattly

[robust siren]

i drop my keyboard 4mm and the spacebar activates on 40g switches

[tawdry tree]

punch your desk and space presses itself

[robust siren]

i have to set it to 2mm actuation

[robust siren]

that is a viable option

who needs fingers when you can just smash your table for the space bar

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-safe-clever-think-ahead-reece-simpson-gif-14469436

[uneven cradle]

Sounds like they just need some tuning

[lapis elm]

What do you mean by tuning?

[uneven cradle]

Some more lube in the right places

[lapis elm]

ah okay, thank you

[dull sequoia]

@lapis elm https://youtu.be/nBWWRZcZidc?si=0zoiSKJU3ENVr0_a
I modded my Lekker Edition, which should have the same or even worse stabs (lube wise). You can achieve a lot and remove the rattle by greasing and lubing.

[lapis elm]

dang! nice spacebar there

I guess I'll relube them

[stone flax]

+wire balancing if need be

even the slightest bit of balancing can go a long way in bridging the gap grease cant

[lapis elm]

how does that work?!

[stone flax]

uneven wire at the bends or in the middle

bend them so theyre flat

sigh

[lapis elm]

i see

[stone flax]

ill just send a video

[lapis elm]

Explaination was clear enough @stone flax

Thank you guys

[stone flax]

https://youtube.com/shorts/547rtvaE9nI?feature=shared

[dull sequoia]

Did you just lube or also grease @lapis elm?

[stone flax]

really easy with tweezers or pens

especially if the wires less elastic

[stone flax]

specific wire holders are made too

You dont need perfect balancing unless the stabs are very fussy

[lapis elm]

both, I used Krytox 205G0 & Molykote EM-50L

[stone flax]

but honestly only consider balancing if you notice a tick AFTER greasing and lubing

[stone flax]

how did you use each?

[lapis elm]

Let me find the video, it has been awhile

[dull sequoia]

Okay same here Gor. Used quite a lot of grease on the wire though.

[lapis elm]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=mwj7wZKh_QmpMcCD&t=592

I did the 2 steps from that video

housing and wire

[stone flax]

so you used the 205 on the plastic on plastic contact between the housing and stem

Then molokyte on the ends and bend

?

[lapis elm]

yes exactly

If i recall correctly

I remember seeing to not greese the housing

[stone flax]

send sound test

[stone flax]

yeah dont try to do that

[stone flax]

of stabs

[lapis elm]

okay, one sec

@stone flax I think my mic is broken or something

are you only hearing the left channel?

[stone flax]

do u have a phone to just have it with video

i want to see u hit the sides of each stabilized key

to test if its ticking

[lapis elm]

okay

[lapis elm]

it sounds terrible man

[stone flax]

ok

im almost sure most of the stabs are ticking if im hearing correctly except for rshift which sounds good

also nice caps

[stone flax]

test one more thing

softly tap the edges of the cap and listen for a faint sound

[lapis elm]

Thank you, love them

[lapis elm]

By not pressing down at all?

[stone flax]

im seeing if theres ticking

man none of my boards tick

wait lemme find onr

[lapis elm]

just want to do the test correctly, do you want me to not press down and just lightly tap on the cap?

[stone flax]

yeah but if its iffy regardless where it comes out

actually you have platemounts right

?

[lapis elm]

I have whatever came with the HE 2, did not swap the stabs

[stone flax]

itll probably really easy to check if the wires unbalanced just by taking one that “sounds bad” and testing the wire

[lapis elm]

so yes, plate mounts i believe

[stone flax]

And if they are balanced

Needs more lube ig

[lapis elm]

so what do you mean by ticking

What happens underneeth for them to tick?

Anyway, I'll prob just redo everything and get new stabs

[stone flax]

the bends are uneven

hmm basically

https://youtu.be/1APcXRqfOao?feature=shared

This will clear it up fast

if proper lubing/greasing didnt do the trick

you might just be dealing with ticking

[random loom]

What does it actually do

[lapis elm]

Thank you man, i had no idea this could be an issue

[stone flax]

unlike rattle which involves the wire jumping around the housing and causing unneccesary noise, ticking will lead to one side of the stab constantly having an unbalanced sound

best described as a "tick"

[stone flax]

https://youtu.be/69ou4DPodWU

[lapis elm]

yeah all of them sounds ok on one side but the other side sounds terrible lol

[stone flax]

then thats it

ur dealing with ticking

excess grease can fix this

but a lil bit of wirebalancing can go to solve this

[lapis elm]

I think I'll just buy new stabs

[stone flax]

considering u dont just do away completely with the problem by getting new stabs or wires

[stone flax]

yeah pretty much lol

people have previously dealt with it using holee/bandaid/medical tape

but those are all meh solutions

but wire balancing/new stabs or wires is what id suggest

[lapis elm]

Do you recommend any brand? for plate mounted stabs

[stone flax]

unsure about plate width/tolerances for 2he

best ask someone else

tx ap is probably safe

by all means

probably have someone whos owned the 2he or knows more about it tell you tho

[tidal frigate]

@spiral canyon you know

[worthy epoch]

sup nerds

are RAWs still on top? in terms of stem wobble compared to 2 new jades

[robust siren]

how dare you doubt our lord and savior geon

[worthy epoch]

a, ahah

[regal nest]

why are people turning the spacebar upside down

[worthy epoch]

dunno, js thinking if it worth upgrading to new jades

[lapis elm]

goals

[robust siren]

theres no point in upgrading unless you have v1 or v1.5s

or just want a different sound profile

[tropic urchin]

Personal preference mostly and if you want to spend $70-90 on new switches

[worthy epoch]

nah, im js a rich ass and i can afford awn upgrade if it worth it

and the question wasnt about soundw

only perfomace wise

[robust siren]

theres no such thing as performance gains/loss with HE switches

[tropic urchin]

they're identical in that aspect

its all sound/feel

[worthy epoch]

there is tho

[tropic urchin]

thats all it is

[worthy epoch]

stem wobble

[tropic urchin]

If you want tightest then go for Raws

[robust siren]

this will go down in history

[worthy epoch]

yippie

[lapis elm]

@tropic urchin do you own Jade maxes?

[tropic urchin]

I ordered them, havent shipped yet

[robust siren]

only a few people have them atm

[lapis elm]

How do you know how tight they are

[tropic urchin]

I'm going based off of what I've seen in this channel for the last 3 weeks ish

I dont think it'll make much of a difference from the new jades to the RAWs but I've heard otherwise from the raw folks so

[robust siren]

so

reddit says jade pros have the same wobble as lekker v2s

but its reddit

[lapis elm]

Listen to this board guys: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1213561151766667335/two_he_jade.mp4?ex=66f70065&is=66f5aee5&hm=d490080b56a63739d808bed3edc55afbcc2b070d6efc76b4619be59b20a9fea6&

how insane is that

[robust siren]

i think i found @tropic urchin

[tropic urchin]

you're on a quest to find all my accounts I see

[robust siren]

[sleek wagon]

DIVINIKEY ORDER STILL HASNT SHIPPED AND ITS BEEN 4 WHOLE HOURS

[tropic urchin]

I think it ships from california so it could take a little bit unless you're local

[sleek wagon]

I'm 5 hours away from the warehouse 😎

[tropic urchin]

oh shit, well maybe it'll be 4.5 hrs

[sleek wagon]

god I can only hope

If they're here by Saturday that would be clutch

[tropic urchin]

ill have my geon switch opener a whole month and a half before my keyboard arrives 😅

[robust siren]

my order took a week to arrive

[robust siren]

oh i didnt read this

💀

[sleek wagon]

lol yeah, I've ordered and it's been here within 2 days before

[robust siren]

i live literally the furthest possible distance from it

im on the other side of the states

lmao

[random loom]

Jokes on u I live on EU 💀

[robust siren]

yeah but surely you arent ordering from divinkey

[tropic urchin]

my keyboard might make it here before the divinikey ferry reaches the EU

[flat cobalt]

I gotta commit to the regular jades

[random loom]

Yknow what’s the best part

It takes the same time as Ali express delivers me my shit

[robust siren]

fold and get geon raws

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[tropic urchin]

sticking with the OGs bold. I respect the commitment

[flat cobalt]

it’s too late for me

[robust siren]

you swapped the bottom housings?

[random loom]

Exactly

[robust siren]

its never too late to convert

[random loom]

What’s this

Someone pls explain

[robust siren]

Geon will accept you!

[tropic urchin]

Looks like they made a Jadenstein switch

[flat cobalt]

I bought the pink edition ones and then ordered an entire keyboard for the “limited” edition amethyst color

[tropic urchin]

ahhh

[random loom]

Ye but what’s the bottom housing

[flat cobalt]

They’re just regular jades

But in different colors

[robust siren]

oh recolors

[tropic urchin]

I always wondered if the amethyst had a different sound to it, then realized its probably just a recolor

[random loom]

Oh.

[flat cobalt]

Just a recolor but they look so nice

[tropic urchin]

they'd go well in a purple build

[robust siren]

jades the new apex with recoloring the same thing and selling it again

💀

[flat cobalt]

They fit the GMK Fuji so well

[tropic urchin]

Oh wow GMK caps are lit

[lunar sand]

TTC KoM or Uranus esport?! Any ideas about these switches ( I know the name can be funny 😂 )

[tropic urchin]

uranus esport is a new one..

[robust siren]

that is def a new one...

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[robust siren]

GEON Raw HE

[tropic urchin]

I think there was a review recently with TTC switches, but they didn't resonant with me

[robust siren]

Magnetos are so loud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfxm9hVD330
3:23

Raws have clack but this is....

[tropic urchin]

the TTC is entering GMMK 3 territory of bad switch sound

actually thats what it reminds me of

[robust siren]

okay its not that bad but its bad

[tropic urchin]

its the lower end

if the GMMK is a 10 for what you shouldn't do the TTCs are a 7

not what you wanna see

they also look kinda goofy but you wont be seeing it 99% of the time so thats a wash

[robust siren]

im not even sure how its creating that awful sound

[tropic urchin]

we need MJ on the case

[robust siren]

its like

travel travel bottom out then top

[tropic urchin]

its kinda wild theres new switches coming out that make me prefer lekkers

[robust siren]

is it the springs making that noise? cant be... it has to be the stem

because of how tight the tolerances have to be for that guard

[tropic urchin]

yeah that guard didnt move at all so I'm inclined to believe that to be the case

they're loud and soft at the same time too if you go down further into the typing test

idk what they did, but they shouldn't do it again

[robust siren]

this might NOT be the king of magnets

[tropic urchin]

yeah thats cooked

I wanna see hipyo review these switches man

[robust siren]

they..... CLACK????

"today we'll be trying to make these clacky switches thocky"

[robust siren]

also he already hates HE switches so i doubt he will

as he already hates lekkers and theyre the "thockiest" HE switch out rn

[tropic urchin]

I also just noticed the bottom has 2 holes which I haven't noticed for other closed bottoms unless I'm being a goober

[tropic urchin]

Idk I feel like if you're going to make a statement on the wooting 80he and you're not a HE guy then you gotta review it all imo

theres many different layers to HE switch sound

[ashen karma]

TTC KOM sounds very nice with the 80he zinc case tho
https://youtu.be/bMZ8B9cMejg?t=308

[tropic urchin]

He also reviewed it on plastic and lekkers which imo is not a great combo

[robust siren]

they sound a lot better here but theres still that scratchy sound

very noticeable on the spacebar

[tropic urchin]

The zinc does alot of the carrying

[tropic urchin]

I hear alot of thock at the beginning with a higher pitched clack at the end that doesnt sit well with me

[robust siren]

the video also has 2 different audio samples

so which one am i supposed to believe

[tropic urchin]

the clearer of the two

that doesnt sound like you're in a wind tunnel

[ashen karma]

yeah, the 80he review is lubed ttc switches so maybe that helps too

[tropic urchin]

ah that makes sense

[robust siren]

lube definitely helps it

[tropic urchin]

unless the other guy did his stock, that stock sound is not it

[robust siren]

the one i shared was stock

[tropic urchin]

LMAO

yeah thats chalked

[robust siren]

OH WAIT I THINK I REMEMBER THIS VIDEO

[tropic urchin]

yeah I feel like the TTCs dont do enough for me with the other mainstream switches

[robust siren]

i remember this frame

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I remember that one too I think

[robust siren]

wow they are LOUD compared to lekkers

[tropic urchin]

RAWs sound nice, I'm more partial to Jades, Lekkers are okay and then the others are kinda iffy

[robust siren]

i think i stopped watching the video here because the TTCs were so high-pitched it hurts

[ashen karma]

I have some jades and raws , just waiting for the 80he

I also ordered a keyboard that comes with TTC KoM

[tropic urchin]

1.25 more months 😅

[ashen karma]

I hope I get mine by Xmas 🎅🏻

[robust siren]

the ttcs stock really are not it

id say my ears arent even that sensitive but those

[tropic urchin]

The lube job on the TTCs is like putting lipstick on a pig

[robust siren]

i feel like im getting fucked in my ears

[ashen karma]

Ya but performance wise, the TTC are supposed to be on the high end

[robust siren]

if you mean stem wobble then yes

[ashen karma]

I might do a sound test when I get mine

[tropic urchin]

even if they had a significant performance advantage I probably wouldn't get them tbh

[robust siren]

but other then wobble theres no performance gains

its HE

all youre doing is measuring the production of a potential difference across an electrical conductor

[tropic urchin]

actually, the way you make the TTCs sound good is you put 3 layers of dampening foam

[ashen karma]

Someone posted this

[tropic urchin]

we need google translate on the scene

[robust siren]

ironically i cant read that

[ashen karma]

I will translate in a bit, driving rn

[random loom]

Am here

I can read chinese

[robust siren]

i can only speak

[random loom]

Wait what are u trying to find

[tropic urchin]

If we can get the rows and columns deciphered it'll make this alot easier

[random loom]

Ok

[tropic urchin]

it just looks like im playing sudoku with a bunch of random numbers

[random loom]

Row 1: smoothness
Row 2: stability (like wobbling or sth)
Row 3: bottom feedback or sth (prob strength of magnet)
Row 4: cost effectiveness / performance per dollar or sth

And somehow the gateron jades won the raw hes dang it

[robust siren]

im guessing jades is first column?

[tropic urchin]

They really didn’t like the RAWs

[random loom]

Jades max

[robust siren]

which column is the ttc

[ashen karma]

First column is TTC

[random loom]

Normal jades got like 18 points

[random loom]

Oh shit I read it wrong sorry guys

Your right

[robust siren]

💀

[tropic urchin]

Can’t win em all

[random loom]

Bro look at these two words

王，玉

SIMILAR ASF

[robust siren]

i never learned how to read/write

am white washed

[tropic urchin]

That’a very NA of you /s

[random loom]

NA?

Am eu Bru-

[tropic urchin]

That was the joke

[random loom]

Oh wait nvm I get it now

[lapis elm]

which column is the jades max?

[robust siren]

i think its the 5th

but its normal jades

not jade maxes

• according to google translate

[harsh dove]

TTC Magneto and RAW HE got the best scores on that list

[lapis elm]

perhaps the maxes are not present

[stone flax]

#RAWHE ON TOP

RAW HE

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-raw-raw-wwe-wrestling-logo-gif-16836282

[lapis elm]

monday night

R A W

[random loom]

Correct

[robust siren]

I can guarantee you did not make the mistake following our lord Geon!

[random loom]

Yep

[robust siren]

(it sounds infinately better then TTCs)

[lapis elm]

I have a secret

I got the Jade Maxes

[random loom]

Bro you gotta get a nuke in less than 5 minutes

(Honestly they don’t sound that bad although geon raws are still better)

[lapis elm]

[tropic urchin]

Welcome to the Rebellion

[robust siren]

this little one has wavered

[lapis elm]

Haven't seen a good sound test yet

[robust siren]

rebellious teen phase

[lapis elm]

listen though, if i can make my board sound like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1213561151766667335/two_he_jade.mp4?ex=66f70065&is=66f5aee5&hm=d490080b56a63739d808bed3edc55afbcc2b070d6efc76b4619be59b20a9fea6&

I'll be very happy

[tropic urchin]

[random loom]

Whoa

[lapis elm]

They are using normal jades here

it's insane

[quiet bay]

kinda pingy tho

[tropic urchin]

what keycaps are those

[robust siren]

look like pbt or abs

[lapis elm]

looks like this to me: https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-mt3-pulse-keycap-set

[lapis elm]

pingy where? What does pingy mean?

[quiet bay]

spring ping probably

[lapis elm]

so springs are not lubbed enough?

[robust siren]

i hear it a little

[lapis elm]

anyway, that is goal for me

[tropic urchin]

ah

[quiet bay]

I think it's the spacebar

[lapis elm]

this madman in the video lubbed 104 switches for his fullsize HE

[quiet bay]

that's pingy

[tropic urchin]

it sounded like you were typing on boulders for a sec

[lapis elm]

it's not me btw

[quiet bay]

yeah it's the spacebar that's pingy

[lapis elm]

is this sound creamy or marbly

[robust siren]

getting fr4 plate to repalce the stock steel one soon

holefully itll make it just a tiny bit deeper

[untold wigeon]

FR4 won’t be much deeper. Maybe a touch. But don’t expect a huge difference

[untold wigeon]

I like your keycaps! SA?

[lapis elm]

Not mine but they are the following: looks like this to me: https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-mt3-pulse-keycap-set

[untold wigeon]

TTC really? Those didn’t sound very nice imo

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. Mt3 is like a short SA. I really love the blue

[harsh dove]

Well that list isn't really testing for sound preference

Just overall build quality

[untold wigeon]

Oh! I don’t read Chinese. lol

[harsh dove]

Nah all good lol

[untold wigeon]

Also you know how I feel about box stems.

[dapper sonnet]

if i lube my switches should i also lube my stabilizers

[robust siren]

yeah i know, its gonna be a small change

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-waterboy-momma-football-ancestry-gif-4930669809320276198

[untold wigeon]

Good as long as your expectations are in order

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[robust siren]

what about flex tho? compared to the steel plate

i know fr isnt the softest material

as a plate

[dapper sonnet]

and can i use any old keyboard switch opener or will only the one on the wooting website work?

[untold wigeon]

FR4 I believe is pretty stiff. Maybe @harsh dove can chime in he has one

[untold wigeon]

Mx style switch opener.

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom

He has it as well, currently in use

[harsh dove]

What's the question? FR4 is pretty stiff

[untold wigeon]

Yes

No flex correct

Like it’s up there with steel and CF

[harsh dove]

Little to none, very minor flex

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

If you're talking about the flex cuts in the kbdfans plate, they useless in some way

idk why its even there lol

[untold wigeon]

I felt that way too when I had it

[fluid ravine]

weird spots too id say

[untold wigeon]

Yeh definitely

[fluid ravine]

gonna be thinking of doing research on how to paint a alu case soon

[dapper sonnet]

is a switch opener for Switch Opener for MX Kailh Gateron Outemu the same as a cherry mx style?

[untold wigeon]

@robust siren

[fluid ravine]

Usually a switch opener should have both kahil and mx style opener

there should be like 2 sides of each depending on what you get

[young lantern]

@fluid ravine any noticable pinging with cf plate since you run no plate foam? i was thinking of experimenting when i recieve my alu plate

[fluid ravine]

Nope, although CF is the brightness and one of the stiffest plate out of the bunch, it doesn't tend to resonate like steel or brass.

[flat cobalt]

I want my salvation already

[cold bloom]

fr4 is slightly softer than cf but still shouldn't flex, even with the "flex cuts" in the kbdfans one it's not really meant to do that

[cosmic torrent]

Yo

[wide kraken]

lol, didn't realize anyone would dig that up

the switch springs were bag lubed, but the stabs were all stock, hence what pochizo said about pingy spacebar (admittedly I like the ping, it's consistent at least )

also it's mostly the butyl mat lining the bottom shell doing the work in that clip

[sleek wagon]

Would there be a negative to not screwing in your pcb to the case 🤔

Besides it being able to fall out if you carry it upside down?(nobody does that)

[queen geode]

does anyone have suggestions for keycaps that are similar to these? https://osume.com/products/dalgona-keycaps?variant=42905491144944 ( I bought a mocha tofu redux for reference)

[lapis elm]

I really like the sound of your keyboard, I just bought some Butyl mat lining, so did you use the adhesive onto the Wooting shell?

And the aluminium part is touching your masking tape?

[queen geode]

I dont want to spend 90 dollars on keycaps lol

[sleek wagon]

Like killmat or dynamat?

[flat cobalt]

https://kineticlabs.com/keycaps/polycaps/coffee-shop-pbt

Maybe?

[wide kraken]

kilmat, but the butyl sheets are all basically the same

[wide kraken]

yeah, the butyl itself adhering to the shell. tape mod on main PCB and daughterboard to prevent any short

[queen geode]

yeah i saw those too, but they are still like the same price id rather just get the dalgona ones

[flat cobalt]

That’s fair

[wide kraken]

also if you apply butyl sheet, make sure to do it somewhere ventilated or at least open air

[lapis elm]

okay so aluminium part is face up in your set up

[wide kraken]

started it in my tiny room and already got a bit lightheaded halfway

[lapis elm]

thank you for the advice!

[sleek wagon]

Are you able to link me the exact one you bought

[lapis elm]

i got you

https://www.amazon.com/Kilmat-Deadening-Automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B082Q2J2T4/

[flat cobalt]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/cafe-deskmats

Buy this one

[lapis elm]

I may have digged up one of your reddit comments @wide kraken

[wide kraken]

yeah, I got that one. but unless you plan on doing a ton of keebs or using it for something else, 18 sqft is way too much lol

there's smaller off brands kits that are just like 2 or 3 sheets

[queen geode]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/ws-cafe

99$😭

WHY ARE THEY SO MUCH

[wide kraken]

that's what we all say until the brainrot sets in

[sleek wagon]

Hell yeah thanks, my dad does car audio jobs on the side so he might actually just be able to give me some lol

[lapis elm]

@wide kraken It sounds so good, I don't think you understand

[queen geode]

dont make me do it please

[lapis elm]

@wide kraken without any fancy case on top

[sleek wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[lapis elm]

legend

Also the fact you lubbed 108 switches @wide kraken

[flat cobalt]

Check eBay too sometimes people sell them since they overbuy stuff

[queen geode]

ok

[wide kraken]

it may or may not have been 210
(2 jade bottles and 1 ks-20u)

[lapis elm]

but why

[sleek wagon]

Has anybody done gummy o ring on the 60he?

[wide kraken]

60HE afterwards
and now I'm in the 40% keeb brainrot hole

[lapis elm]

bruh, do you still use the fullsize?

[wide kraken]

I can't even type accurately on row stagger anymore

[queen geode]

@flat cobalt https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Doubleshot-Percent-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0D1QVD55F/ref=asc_df_B0D1QVD55F/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=704452679952&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5361751101967545187&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013406&hvtargid=pla-2327334136498&mcid=d8a735db1a933f15bd3c8598b0ec0f5c&th=1

these not bad

[lapis elm]

what are you typing on? 😮

[dapper sonnet]

would 5 grams of krytox 205 g0 be enough for wooting 60he? specifically this one https://www.amazon.com/EDC-Plus-Krytox-GPL-205-Keyboard/dp/B08LYT7DZD/ref=sr_1_5?crid=21R58P86E6P97&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yxqDAXux8AP56Q-0TaZGvmrk_CZhAiZWtWTcTboujjEI63BpHdZReK-EjrpAmNgcnL5pCDmGbNWQg9rD8N68WX7fkIcdouxGdnpcuVekaWM4phG75kiAysaHzJmpobUZJLm5OzZN65Vn7FBayQj5VvMFbkEdBe-QWVeJO25HKCysONEjGRr4II1HI64OOIw3yvQa3-F4UI6o3CstR3bRJvQdcsl1E_MNFou8fH_ihqstrKuG0mHCg8nth0ILJj-kWn_8M_iHHchBTFtttHvZjC6Z_kdQNDTQBtpCFW_qc8E.EEJmN9sesbwPA4VDPaJDw4hpe9iD3UKa85hIQNUD6b0&dib_tag=se&keywords=krytox+205g0&qid=1727399310&s=industrial&sprefix=%2Cindustrial%2C96&sr=1-5

[wide kraken]

more than enough for several keebs

[queen geode]

what do you apply it with

[wide kraken]

mostly ortho 4x12 these days. there's a few HE 40% PCBs now but not firmware yet

[queen geode]

clean af

[lapis elm]

dev spotted

[wide kraken]

small brush, like a #0 size. less is more

[lapis elm]

but but but what about my F keys

[knotty iron]

Geon RAW 40g vs Gateron Magnetic Jade, which has faster rebound?

because i might be able to recommend someone get the 90 RAWs instead

because of the short 3.4mm travel

[wide kraken]

i put em on 3x4 grid between Q and V, hold right bar

[flat cobalt]

I’m gonna show will power and not get the tamagotchi key caps tomorrow

[odd grail]

Finally replacing the springs in my switches. Is it work lubing them?

Just the springs, not the whole switch

[wide kraken]

if you're replacing them anyways, may as well bag lube them

[odd grail]

Shit I suppose

[tawdry ore]

Worth

[odd grail]

I mean like I could use a brush too. I feel like that would work better maybe?

It's only a 60%

Can I bag lube with Krystox 205g or is it too thick?

[barren wasp]

Too thick

[odd grail]

brush lube gaming

[stray tiger]

GMK Sloth

[fluid ravine]

I'd say just spring swap with springs with faster rebounds, i personally dont really know how it works but dual stage springs or longer springs?

[knotty iron]

longer springs i would imagine would help

[fluid ravine]

Ik dual stage springs should work great but longer springs idk, prob works similarly

"The design of the two-stage spring makes it longer than a normal “one-stage” spring. This means that the spring is compressed more than a one-stage spring during the unactivated state, and it reaches its bottom out weight more quickly. This makes the downpress feel more firm and consistent, as there is a smaller range of forces between the beginning of the keypress until bottom out or even actuation. In addition, the upstroke after lifting your finger is noticeably faster, meaning that there is the ability to rapidly repeat keystrokes in a shorter amount of time. Two-stage springs are also less likely to have spring ping because being more compressed even in the unactivated state means that there is less room for the spring to move/rotate around."

[calm pulsar]

when geon was reviewing jade pro and max he said there is a concern that super long springs may make crunching sounds on bottom out

[idle flint]

Any mojo 60 case havers? Haven’t seen a lot around but I like the thickness of the case. Would love to see people’s builds of it

[fluid ravine]

(Not my photo)

(From a year and 3 months ago)

[idle flint]

So CHUNKY 🤤

[untold wigeon]

My 100g springs are significantly longer than L60s and don’t crunch.

[calm pulsar]

do you have the wooting ones?

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[paper bloom]

The fingers are gonna have a 6 pack

LOL

[calm pulsar]

I think they don't have many coils
but the 22mm springs on jade pro for example, they are quite close to each other

[stone flax]

that is incredibly not worth

[calm pulsar]

I also have the 100gs

[paper bloom]

Ok u both gonna have

6 packed finers

Fingers*

[calm pulsar]

lol

[paper bloom]

Lol

[calm pulsar]

im on 62.5g rn 😄

the pingless springs from geon

[paper bloom]

Im running 60gs

From geon as well

[queen geode]

yeah i agree 100%

[stone flax]

yes but that is an incredibly steep price

[queen geode]

ima get the 16$ ones

[stone flax]

what 16 dollar ones?

[stone flax]

this is like less than even 3ml for 11 bucks lol

[stone flax]

jades bc heavier spring

and iirc they the same lengths

maybe 1mm differential

[stone flax]

less so bag lube more so tub lube is done with those

can get really uneven really quick

also donut dipping exists

[queen geode]

https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Doubleshot-Percent-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0D1QVD55F/ref=asc_df_B0D1QVD55F/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=704452679952&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5361751101967545187&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1013406&hvtargid=pla-2327334136498&mcid=d8a735db1a933f15bd3c8598b0ec0f5c&th=1

[stone flax]

or just lubing the ends

[stone flax]

i would also say thats not worth

but its yuh life

[queen geode]

why?

[stone flax]

low quality

costs of aifei

or even gj

[queen geode]

can you suggest some then

[calm pulsar]

"pbt"

[queen geode]

because all other ones are 90$

[stone flax]

😭

[stone flax]

does reading literacy still exist in this world

literally look right above you dude....

[queen geode]

sassy ass

im on the phone mb bro

[robust siren]

[stone flax]

also the diminishing returns with costs for dyesub pbt happens way faster than doubleshot so imo if u wanna ball on a budget and arent looking for a specific type of design better done in doubleshotting just go with that

[odd grail]

we're in too deep now

[stone flax]

lets get greasy

[queen geode]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcx-latte-keycap-set

are these worht then?

[odd grail]

I actually decided that it wasn't worth lubing the springs tbh

[stray tiger]

Up to you

[queen geode]

I feel like im not gonna find any with this design thats quality for less than that

[stone flax]

it aint, just oil em up heehee

[queen geode]

i cant seem to find any

[calm pulsar]

ohhh emerald is 69 bucks

love this color

[deft turtle]

Oiled up

[fallen crag]

I literally cant feel or hear a difference lubing the Lekker V2s, V1.5 was quite a change .-.

[calm pulsar]

well the tolerances are good on v2 then

and stock lubing maybe

[fallen crag]

But at least i put all the 80g springs into the 80HE

[fallen crag]

I can confirm, they sit very well

[west wing]

Has anyone taken the time to find out which keycap profiles work on the lekker switches? Unsure if it would really matter since you can use a lower actuation and not worry about the lower portion of the keystroke if there is a height issue

[bold dragon]

what's the consensus on jade pros vs max?

[west wing]

Not the best video per se, but some sort of comparision. https://youtu.be/j-pKEhkaIcY?si=yvYKonvB_OGN9upU&t=296

[glacial wind]

the devil will tempt you with his baubles of max and pro, but do not stray away from the righteous path of geon raw he

[west wing]

[thorn zealot]

So raws are the goat of he rn or what

[west wing]

All preference, but they sound great. I would look at multiple HE switches on youtube. Lots of variety with new switches being released

[bold dragon]

@west wing thanks. i remember watching this already and just thinking what a shitty sound test lol

[west wing]

lmaoooo yeah not great, but something I guess

[bold dragon]

i think the jade pro sounds better than the max. sounds a bit clackier than the raws which i like, but i might go raw for my 80

[west wing]

This video has a better jade pro sound test with stock vs lubed. https://youtu.be/Ju4kxa8C0_c?si=F0WFWe3pMJL92GPf&t=202

[bold dragon]

thanks!

these black knights sound good too... hmm

does anyone know of any good screw in stabs to buy?

[west wing]

Yeah I was impressed by those. The lekkers aren't bad though for stock!

[bold dragon]

i use L45 v2s on my 60 module, have a prebuilt 60 i want to mod, and then 80 on the way

i fell into the wooting hole so hard

[west wing]

lmao I am just waiting on my 80; no other Wootings

[honest sapphire]

i use jades on my custom 60he and they are really nice switches

[deft turtle]

I’m happy to stick with the lekker V2s

I don’t really like the sound of the geon raws

[ivory drift]

Would the Jade Pros be close to Gateron KS-3 Milky Pros?

[deft turtle]

Oh people already have jade pros?

[glacial wind]

it's mostly raw he, jade pro, jade max all similar levels with maybe raw he being tiny bit tighter - but the jades are pricier so raw he just been easy pick out of the 3

[deft turtle]

Wait there’s a jade max now???

[glacial wind]

yeah, they're just slightly different material jade pro with gold springs

and iirc dual rail as well (but that doesn't do much)

[deft turtle]

Is there really a difference with gold springs?

[glacial wind]

not really

[deft turtle]

Or is it just fancy aesthetic

[glacial wind]

it's so they can try justify charging $1 a switch lol

[deft turtle]

Lmao

Wait

Is it actually 1 dollar

[glacial wind]

yes

which again is why everyone just tends to go raw he because you get all the big benefit but it's half the price

[deft turtle]

Geon kinda goated for making the raws so cheap

Surely their profit margins must be so small

[glacial wind]

geon is actually average-ish switch price, it's just gateron like to up their price just because they can

our discord may know about raw he but they're not as known outside of these communities so people just default to gateron and pay the $1 per switch without realizing you can buy raw he instead

[polar girder]

Yeah jades are for the masses

Ez $

[calm pulsar]

glory to geon

[vague stag]

Never bought through Aliexpress before but this seems strange. When I go to my order tab, I can see that both of my items has been shipped (first picture). But when I click on the G Raw, I only get a picture of the standoffs I have ordered, as if that is the only thing that has been shipped (second picture). Is this a bug you think or have they missed shipping the switches? 👀

[glacial wind]

they shipped it as separate items maybe coming from 2 different storages

[vague stag]

so essentially, they have only shipped the standoffs?

because both the items have the same tracking ID

[glacial wind]

oh then it means they probably put both items together if the tracking id for both is same

[vague stag]

it seems strange, I think they have shipped both but it does not show in the details (when clicking on the Geon Raws)

[glacial wind]

that's just how aliexpress shipping goes, sometimes info is a bit scuffed and it takes 2-3 weeks but it's so cheap so you just kind of order and forget until it shows up

[honest sapphire]

i ordered the same thing on the 26th and mine hasnt updated either only bought the switches

[vague stag]

no I mean they have updated it. The first picture shows both items shipped (Fenggang Town) - but when clicking on the Geon's, I can only see the Standoffs as part of "that package"

hopeing its a bug, just wanted to know if anyone else might have experienced the same thing

[honest sapphire]

are they both from kbdfans store or separate sellers?

[glacial wind]

same store - so they probably shipped it together

[vague stag]

same store - KBDfans

[honest sapphire]

it just might be a way they display the order on the tracking page. like maybe they only show the top item in the order and because the standoffs are on the top thats what they show

[vague stag]

those were my thoughts exactly! but since I have never ordered from Ali before I wanted to see if anyone else had the same experience 🙂

[honest sapphire]

yea only ever ordered one thing at a time from aliexpress so dont know on multiple items

[calm pulsar]

I order there a lot and sometimes they would combine stuff in packages

or even combine items from different orders into one

but they can also ship standoffs earlier than switches or vise versa

[vague stag]

alright, so basically it will be a surprise what's in the package when I receive it

[calm pulsar]

when my stuff arrives it just marks what's delivered and what is not so you'll probably be able to tell

[honest sapphire]

any guesses on if my 80he or geon raws arrive first

[random loom]

Both 💀

Although the odds while be slim

[honest sapphire]

1 in 7 chance

[random loom]

Wait 1 in 7 only?

When are they arriving

Same day?

[honest sapphire]

the switches from the 1st to the 10th and the 80he says the 4th to the 15th

so only 7 of those days overlap

[random loom]

Oh right the math makes sense now

[honest sapphire]

honestly hope the keyboard shows up first or else ill be staring at some switches all day

[velvet raft]

So with all of the switches available now which have the best "thock"

Want to upgrade from the lekker v1

[wise sand]

Lekker V2 sounds the deepest imo but it doesn't have a closed bottom so no marbles D:

[lilac edge]

How do I remove this part?

[austere creek]

what do you mean by this part

[lilac edge]

The part that connects those two

The transparent and the cover

[austere creek]

take apart the uwu?

thats it

[lilac edge]

I tried

I dont want to break it

Theres a part that feels like I'll break it if I pull

[austere creek]

you take out the screws at the bottom and the uwu should open up

then take off the pcb and you are basically at that stage

[lilac edge]

No its already opened up

I mean the front

[austere creek]

you unclip it

[lilac edge]

Im trying too

I cant

The back clip is strong

Got it

[flat cobalt]

[lilac edge]

my wooting broke, I demand a refund

[grizzled nebula]

I tried to open it too, but in the end I decided not to

[lilac edge]

Stole my friends wooting we all good

[wise root]

I just received my Jade Pros and Jade Max... They are such an insane improvement over the Lekker Switches it's not even close.

[calm pulsar]

do you know this character?

where it is from

[flat cobalt]

I don’t lol I just like the face they have why

[calm pulsar]

so there is a russian social network, and there are different stickers, and this character is from one of the sticker packs lol

[flat cobalt]

Oh wow lmao

[calm pulsar]

you probably didnt need that information, I just got curious

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhhh might look them up and get more stickers of them

[calm pulsar]

the name is masyunya

[flat cobalt]

Tyty!

[flat cobalt]

I have a sticker with a different character doing a pose of theirs

[calm pulsar]

lol nice

[left depot]

the second one is great omg haha

[lunar sand]

Melgeek Made68 Pro ?

I was about to pledge the 84 version on kickstarter, but since they don't charge VAT, my guess is that it would be stuck in customs forever.

hmmm as for the TTC KoM still deciding if i go with those or wait until the Uranus ( still feels funny the name ) ESport version is widely available... since i already have the Jades, wanted to try out something different and with box design.

[barren wasp]

Sound test

[dull sequoia]

Sound test would be great. But pleased on the SAME KEY. So many tests showcase switches next to each other, when every key has a different sound anyways.

[flat cobalt]

Wait it sent weird

[left depot]

its like a smug version of the 'no bitches?' face

[left depot]

can someone make a switchy version pls

[flat cobalt]

I have no artistic skills

[barren wasp]

[young lantern]

fr4 plate from hype or kbd?

hype doesnt have flex cuts along alphas kbd does

but im pretty sure those are negligible

[dire delta]

Custom cut will be more expensive

I have 4 hype plates and they are awesome

But FR4 is already offered by KBD

[young lantern]

yeah i have alu and pom from tom as well and my kbd fr4 is otw

nothing worth worrying about huh

[dire delta]

I do run his Red Alu in my Frog, best 60HE sound in my opinion

Alu in my Klippe T was ass tho

[young lantern]

i think i saw your message about that

red alu no foam

[dire delta]

Yeah :)

[young lantern]

i ordered the same but instead on a fjell with no foam as well

[dire delta]

O-Ring or classic tray?

[young lantern]

but since i keycap swapped i wanted to try fr4 and i guess its not worth it to order again from tom custom if kbd has it “cheaper”

my fjell is actually not here yet

but i have been friction mounted on redux for past few months

e-white still sold out sadly so i had to go unfinished

[dire delta]

unfinished looks great

[young lantern]

inspired by this

i have gmk bow instead tho

[dire delta]

I'd go with Serika on that

Or something vibrant like nuklear data or striker, maybe crimson cadet

Can't go wrong with WoB or BoW on most boards

[young lantern]

its what i have in hand haha

[young lantern]

cutting down on the hobby

[dire delta]

I should size down my shit too

[young lantern]

i collect mice and pads as well so i just bought 2 artisans 😅 wallet needs rest

[dire delta]

Currently running type-99 and zero in soft 😅

[crimson sky]

what board is that lol

my first instict said gskt-00?

but I think the radiuses are wrong?

[dire delta]

Julie60 R1

[flat cobalt]

What do you think of the Salvation?

[crimson sky]

ahhh, niceeeee

[crimson sky]

eh, kinda meh board

imo

[dire delta]

I do own a Salvation

Waited over 2 years for the GB

Kinda meh

[crimson sky]

the salvation is a board that you grow out of within 2 years for sure

at that point you either don't care about keyboards that much anymore or you want something else

[flat cobalt]

I want mine already

[wise sand]

need someone to use this on their white 80he

[dire delta]

💀

[crimson sky]

[flat cobalt]

what's the bottom thing 😮

[dire delta]

Cat:(

Thats the name

[flat cobalt]

[flat cobalt]

The Cosmos collab ;-; is my end game

[crimson sky]

doesn't make the board itself better

[dire delta]

This

[crimson sky]

also ngl I think that won't even look that good with gmk cosmos

[flat cobalt]

[calm pulsar]

tbh I kinda think cosmos is not going to be as good as on renders

[dire delta]

Also this looks like the rough and fabulous colorway they've already offered

[flat cobalt]

It is!

But this is the only way I'm getting it now

[dire delta]

Are you planing on using the wooting PCB?

[candid wolf]

hi is there a video that shows the different sounds?

[stone flax]

Catttttttttt awesome weight

[stone flax]

yes

[midnight relic]

BadSeedTech has a pretty good one comparing

[candid wolf]

Where

I have to ask for information! I read on yt that the white polycarbonate plate is not good for hli switch hell raw he! They say that the vibrations hurt them! What do you recommend I do for a better gaming experience? I have at home lekers v1 45, stock stab, stock case, white switch pc, geon raw hell h60 and Swagkeys Knight Stabilizer V2 stabilizers! Can you recommend the best configuration in your opinion?

[untold wigeon]

How are you liking the plastic one? I wasn’t terribly thrilled with my 60he when it was in plastic. I guess I turned into a metal snob

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-snob-scolding-ape-dongood-next-time-whatevert-want-to-hear-nonever-gif-20786055

[untold wigeon]

Omg what is this? I want it!!!

[candid wolf]

any advice friends?

[thorn zealot]

I mean alr have black jades spring lubed

So idk if I should get raws or wait something even better

[harsh dove]

I combined the zinc and plastic

[iron bear]

Oh can you combine them?

Didn't think it could be done?

[flat cobalt]

yeh!

[young lantern]

raiden mid and skypad yume for me 😮‍💨 but my type 99 matcha is arriving tuesday

[vestal magnet]

Any ideas for making wooting silent with mods, still haven't bought it yet and debating on the module or the whole keeb

[dull sequoia]

60he+? If you have the money to spend, always get the module.

Silent... Not so much. Gateron seems to be releasing "silent" switches soon, but that will not be really silent either

Prebuilt is steel plate, poron sandwich and plate mounted stabs. Module is pc plate, silicone/poron sandwich and screw-in stabs.
Besides aluminium cases feeling and sounding much much better as well.
Also you can choose your switch, keycaps and if you want to mod it in any way, you dont have to take it apart first 😋

[young lantern]

already have

yume and 3.0 sora 404

glass is overrated

source: grandmaster in aimlab

not really

its just a peripheral

i switch per game

its oos but you can order it rn

basically “preorder”

i would ask woot member if it doesnt state on website

[calm pulsar]

#📦│batch_updates

[young lantern]

@calm pulsar you have a sound test of raws on fr4? no plate foam

[calm pulsar]

nope, but I will do one once my fr4 plate for frog arrives

btw Thockfather did some tests recently, might search for it

but that was also in the frog

[young lantern]

perfect

[dreamy estuary]

i’m going to crash out, this keycap set doesnt have the right sized spacebar for 75%

why do i even live anymore

[umbral matrix]

what are some good 50g HE switches?

[glacial wind]

the geon raw he is highly regarded and comes with excellent reviews

some members have said it touches upon godhood

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-raw-gif-18809400

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[umbral matrix]

how do they compare to the Jades? I've tried jades, but i don't think I'm a fan of the shorter travel distance

[glacial wind]

They’re basically better tighter jades

But still short travel so if you don’t like shorter travel then maybe it’s not for you

[uneven rapids]

what kind of feeling is to expect from shorter travel?

[stray tiger]

Less than full travel

[uneven rapids]

sounds accurate

[glacial wind]

about 0.6mm less than full travel would be my guess

[stray tiger]

I almost spit out my coffee lol

[uneven rapids]

i can't decide between lekkers and geon raw for my 80he

[stray tiger]

Just need to add a switch over this

[stray tiger]

What's more important to you. Rank them highest to lowest:
Accuracy, Sound, or Feel

[uneven rapids]

what's behind accuracy?

[stray tiger]

Accuracy = best possible sensor calibration

[uneven rapids]

if that doesn't impact performance, then sound > feel > accuracy

[stray tiger]

For sound do you want lower pitch or higher pitch

[uneven rapids]

as an example I dislike clicky sound like blue switches from razer

would prefer quieter and lower pitch I guess

[stray tiger]

Well neither are clicky. Lekker sound a bit deeper and raws a bit higher

Quieter is the lekkers for sure. Raws aren't quite

[uneven rapids]

is this a noticeable difference? or slight?

[stray tiger]

Noticable difference in sound

[robust siren]

its very noticeable

[uneven rapids]

other than that, does the geon raw feel noticeably better in feel? (not really concerned about wobbling)

[random loom]

As a member of the geon raw cult yes

[random loom]

The doesn’t really wobble

Kinda stable actually

[uneven rapids]

and if you were to take a step back and cut influence from the cult?

[stray tiger]

The raw has slightly less stem wobble, but not really noticeable, and a shorter travel distance with a solid bottom out. If feels different but only you can decide if that's better or worse

[random loom]

If that’s the case using a fair perspective they do feel better since there’s less wobble and they are smoother to me

[stray tiger]

You can't go wrong with either switch. If you like a louder switch get the RAW's. If you prefer quieter get the Lekkers. If you want full travel get the Lekkers but if you want reduced travel get the RAW's

[random loom]

Btw is it true zinc case is more clacky

[stray tiger]

RAW's and Jades are close but most would say the RAW's

TTC Magneto being even louder

[uneven rapids]

thank you for these explanations

[random loom]

But expensive asf

[uneven rapids]

I am now really confident that I don't know what I want

[robust siren]

not magnetos 😭

[random loom]

Follow the path of the raws

It never gets wrong

[stray tiger]

You can't go wrong with either. Both are good switches.

[robust siren]

[uneven rapids]

why is there not a lekkers cult

[random loom]

?

[uneven rapids]

i need a confrontation

[random loom]

Good question

[uneven rapids]

a rap contender

[robust siren]

the lekker cult is the thocky cult

same people

[random loom]

We just prefer raws

[stray tiger]

The entire discord is a Lekker v2 cult. But the Geon cult has a single leader

[random loom]

Ye

[stray tiger]

A very wise, vocal and holy leader

[random loom]

Help??

[uneven rapids]

is the thockfather the leader?

[random loom]

Vocal 💀

[uneven rapids]

is he failing the thock cult

[stray tiger]

HE switches today are different than even a year ago. There are a number of good choices to pick from. All will work well.

[random loom]

Just make sure to check compatibility

[random loom]

Guyssss

[stray tiger]

Yes please refer to my list lol

Which I'll be updating next week when I update the FAQ with new 80HE info

[random loom]

I have been waiting for it let’s goo

[random loom]

Am I ignored 😦

[stray tiger]

Not by me

Looks like by everyone else though.

[robust siren]

i dont have an answer for that question

[tropic urchin]

Magnetos second to GMMK for sharpest HE switch 😭

[lone plume]

just switched to raw

the typing feel very smooth

but the switch quite loud lol

[tawdry tree]

Checks out

[lone plume]

missed my 1.5v switch tape mode muted mode ahah

[tropic urchin]

I'd probably just lube it a little if its too loud

[lone plume]

i lubed it but still there

[tropic urchin]

ah

[lone plume]

but better than 1.5v before switch mod

[stone flax]

sir it bottoms out on the pole and the stem is pom

[dusky nest]

Hey all, I've recently swapped out the wooting switches for gateron magnetic jades, and am in the process of switching stabilizers to "long stem stabilizers"... However, there's something "wrong" with the spacebar. When swapping stabilizers off the short-stem ones from wooting, it never allows the spacebar to go back up. Just sits at the bottom

The "stems" don't seem to be disfunctional, as the 2 sides I put on a different key with a different bar and it worked just fine, but the space bar just doesn't seem to work at all

Oh, and I've used this particular switch, and a completely different switch. Switch jumps back up as expected.

the spacebar, however, nope.

Should I make a post in #1019755933959733258 instead, or is this the right place?

[robust siren]

are you using the stock keycaps?

[untold wigeon]

Jades don’t typically need long pole stabs. Try switching them back

[dusky nest]

These long keys "rock" to the side without these stabilizers... Also, these stabilizers were suggested to me in this channel when I mentioned doing this swap, lol.

[dusky nest]

I am not, but these keycaps work perfectly with the regular wooting switches (as I had them before swapping to the jade switches)

[warm knot]

Hey Guys I want to get recommendations for screw in stabs that would be compatible with wooting 60he+

I have a wooting 60HE+ prebuilt

[stone flax]

eh just test no longpole stem for now

[stone flax]

knights v2

[robust siren]

fr4 plates and sw knigts coming in next week!!!

[dusky nest]

I know the short-stem stabilizer from wooting "works", but the space-bar rocks from side-to-side, which is a no-go for me. So the long-stem (which works for all the other longer keys) should work for the spacebar, but it does not.

[stone flax]

are you putting them on correctly

could just be that lol

side with two holes for where clips in

[dusky nest]

The plate only allows one way for the stabilizer to work/connect

[stone flax]

i mean the stab assembly in general

[warm knot]

will durock v2 screw in also work?

[stone flax]

why not knights

[warm knot]

They are not available in my country

[dusky nest]

Yes. It is connected identially to the other stabilizers I've assembled for this same keyboard and also identical to the short-stem the keyboard shipped with.

[stray tiger]

They have worked for me.

But Id just tune the existing stabs

[warm knot]

did it make a difference in feel or sound??

[stone flax]

stabilizers stabilize bro

once u remove tick and rattle theres marginal to zero difference from one to another

stabs are bought for compatibility and ease

[warm knot]

ok understood, so would I need one?

I thought they would modify sound or somthn

[robust siren]

some stabilizers are easier to tune over others

its up you to make them good

with proper lubing and wire balancing

[warm knot]

so are you sayin that if I lube my stock stabs and apply mods they would likely perform better, and I'm better off without a new one?

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[dusky nest]

So any other suggestions for me with the space-bar stabilizer issue?

[untold wigeon]

So it’s a keycap thing. That’s why I said typically.

[stray tiger]

Tune it up. See video above

[robust siren]

@warm knot ^

[dusky nest]

I'll watch the video, but it is a little baffling to me that all the other stabilizers work 100% out of box, but the spacebar just doesn't work at all... And then the answer is "further aftermarket and manual adjustments".

[untold wigeon]

Sounds like it could be binding. Wires out of balance maybe

[stray tiger]

Spacebar is the largest key. More chance for something to be slightly off or if its slightly off to make the most noticeable difference.

[warm knot]

I don't understand why aren't they factory lubed by the manufacturers itself?

like putting some more lube wouldn't affect cost?

[robust siren]

stabs that come from wooting are factory lubed but it might not be enough

it varies for everyone

[stray tiger]

Help me understand. You swapped to pre-built stabilizers from another company or you swapped the stabilizer stems with the ones that came with the Wooting Jades?

[stray tiger]

They are

[warm knot]

Like they are but people I saw on reddit still prefer to lube them and then they sound wet they say

[robust siren]

prefer, to some its just nice to have

[stray tiger]

For sure. A machine lube is never going to be as good as a human doing it by hand.

[robust siren]

its like how swtich lubing is

[warm knot]

So I would try lubing them then?

[robust siren]

if you dont like how they sound or how they feel then yes

[dusky nest]

TLDR: I bought a set of stabilizers called "AP Stabilizer Set" from a website suggested to me in this channel a few weeks ago.

Long story: The suggestion was part of the "solution" to fixing the rocking keys since the 3.5mm travel distance of jades is different than the 4mm travel distance of the stock wooting 60he+ switches the keyboard came with. However, I find the jade switches infinitely more palatable sound-wise, so I wanted to get things working. I originally didn't like the idea of using the new stabilizers as I had just decided to stick to using the wooting default switches and short stabilizers on the longer keys, but today decided to swich to the jades on every key for consistency.

[warm knot]

yeah they do sound loud and rattly

I would try lubing them

[stray tiger]

So you bought TX AP long pole PCB mounted stabilizers correct?

[dusky nest]

From "Divinikey" I bought this exact product: TX AP Long Pole Plate Mount Stabilizers

Copy-pasted from my order history, lol.

[stray tiger]

Ok you bought plate mounted, not PCB mounted. There ARE known issues with TX-AP stabs on the 60HE. You can find that info here #🪛│modding_faq message

[dusky nest]

On the 60HE+?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[dusky nest]

Okay, just making sure as those are different, from what I understand.

[stray tiger]

The PCB is different, the plate is not

Well the plate material is different. Not the stab mounting cut-outs

[fluid ravine]

Pops, the problem I had with the TX ap plate mounts also seems to take affect from the plate as well

[dusky nest]

Got it... Lol, I like the FAQ, but the answer being "you're screwed" is not awesome, ha ha ha

[fluid ravine]

Ever since I switched to the CF plate I notice the cutout is a bit larger but the movement of the stab became more "fluid" compared to the wooting PC plate

[stray tiger]

I think @harsh dove determined that the plate may binding/pinch the TX AP housing enough to prevent it from smoothly returning.

[fluid ravine]

That's a note for the pcb mounted ver

[stray tiger]

Ahh yeah ignore. Does the spacebar stab work at all?

Meaning, was it assembled correctly

[dusky nest]

Yep. If I don't put the spacebar on the keyboard and pull on one side of the stabilizer, it moves the other, as you'd expect.

[stray tiger]

Try turning your spacebar around and lmk if it works

[dusky nest]

Did that too

[stray tiger]

Also, try another spacebar.

[dusky nest]

No dice either way

Lol, okay, but that's also not a solution

[stray tiger]

Not a solution but helps identify the problem

[warm knot]

will Kryotox 205G0 do for stabs?

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[stray tiger]

The tolerances of the TX AP stabs are VERY tight, so any slight warping of the spacebar or any excessive binding of the stabilizer is much easier to be an issue

Yeah @fluid ravine also had an issue with his TX AP plate mounted stabs. Its why we dont recommend them.

Well there were a ton of people with issues, but he is my son so I have to trust him

[warm knot]

So can I use Kryotox on wire too?

[fluid ravine]

Usually thicker viscosity like greease would work best with the wire but yes you can use krytox as well

[dusky nest]

Alright, I think you're going to chuckle at this... So I just swapped to my other keyboards spacebar. Worked perfectly fine. Swapped back to my "desired" spacebar, still floaty. So I pushed... just a little, to the side of the key, trying to see if it had any wiggle room... Now the spacebar seems to be working perfectly fine........

[stray tiger]

Great news! You rebooted it lol

[fluid ravine]

Would recommend using krytox if the tolerance in the stem and wire is tighter than the avg stabs @warm knot

[dusky nest]

How ridiculous, lol... I do think, however, that swapping to the other stabilizing bar helped this out. Not 100% sure, but I do think it did.

[stray tiger]

Yeah, I use grease on all stab wires except TX AP, I just use krytox 205

[warm knot]

I have the stock stabs currently, only been a month since I bought the keyboard itself. I also ordered lekker v2 switches because I don't wanna lubricate the switches, I'm afraid I would definitely mess up the process

[fluid ravine]

Note to this, my identified problem back then were the key caps being too thick when I was using PBT (thickness of 1.5mm) with TX ap plate mounts. And gmk being 1.3mm (I think), I noticed the problem has mostly or most fully go away.

[stray tiger]

Probably had less to do with the keycap thickness and more to do with the tightness of the fit or the straightness of the key

[fluid ravine]

Also tested with thinner PBT key caps which worked perfectly fine compared to the thicker one

[fluid ravine]

Hmm tru

[dusky nest]

@stray tiger thanks so much... Swapping the spacebar "didn't work" but also "completely worked", LOL... Much appreciated, I am now happy again with my modifications :P

[stray tiger]

Enjoy my friend!

[split night]

Any recommendations keycaps for white case

Pls tag

[robust siren]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

you can start by looking at your local vender from here

[glacial wind]

white goes with almost anything

[split night]

Was thinking kkb jindo

[split night]

Ty

But idk I want something more clean

[glacial wind]

i think the beige/offwhite colors tend to contrast a bit with bright white, it's all style preference

that's the only thing i never pair with white personally. The dirty white/orangey/grey/beige type colors can look a bit non matching with bright white

[split night]

Ye gonna be w the zinc white Wooting

Idk if u have one yet

But it’s that color so it’s a bright white

[glacial wind]

wait did you order yet?

[bleak harness]

are there any good blank keycap sets you guys could recommend?