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aint compatible đ
yeah but maybe geon's plate is a bit different
I have an alu too, tbh it doesn't even feel that loud
but might also depend on how you record it
honestly it's not bad but i would let the lube break in and send another sound test another time
I can send one in a week or two to see the difference
6 hour session of monkeytype 
lol I'm too bad at typing
i was typing all my thoughts out last night when i got home from my volleyball game
i mean ay you take that chacne to practice so why not
yknow :)
@calm pulsar when do your maxes come in, I'm interested to see how you feel about the stock lube
yeah I will try them stock initially, might just lube the springs
I remember geon saying it's even too much lube lol
Bet
I really liked the stock sound so far so hoping I wont have to lube them
What do you usually use to open the switch
I might end up doing the springs since they should arrive alot sooner than the 80
a switch opener
just any random one off amazon?
just a random one from aliexpress or amazon will do
I can try the aluminum tomorrow. Here is the POM plate with Jades vs FR4 plate with RAW's
but I will be ordering the geon's one
awesome, thanks for the comparison!
yeah me being a fan of clack I like the fr4 more here
yeah super nice
That POM plate does a number on muting the sound
green geon switch opener being sold out hurts my soul
@polar girder put a blanket over ur keyboard
lol I mean all the softer ones are probably very similar
if u truly just dont like hearing it
xD rgb on jades is equivalent to the jades max with tachyon on
just use a switch puller
or unscrew you plate and push them from under
Guys question which one is better for stabs GPL 105 or EM-50
is you switch puller hydraulic pliers 
the middle of the switch (on the hole for the magnet if it's lekker switches) and it shouldn't be hard
between the two legs
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no, just do it above a table
I've people smashing their keyboards and the keyboards were still ok
just got a 60he and i need fire new keycaps any suggestions?
When you smash on your keyboard you smash on the switches 
are you trolling or not
because it looks like trolling
for real
they just fall out
Anyone getting the jade maxes?
Pierre is currently lubing(?) them
and assembling the keyboard
I saw his video, but his sound quality is really bad haha
đ well no sound test videos are ever true to what they sound like irl
Yeah, they sound widely different depending on the videos
im just kind of wondering if I should go with the Jades or the V2, I think I prefer the sound of the jades
-> jades pro
Did you saw the second one ?
Agreed
merci! they sound pretty good no?
Yes, thockier than normal jades
You prefer the pros?
just curious, sound wise would you say theyâre higher pitched than v2s? if that makes sense
But you have to handlube them to get this sound
Yeah they are
ah ok
ah thanks
The max yes, the pro are basically normal with dual rail. I really like normal too soo
I slightly prefer the max over the normal/pro sound, still the normal sound is great imo
With the max you lose this majhong sound
for a thockier sound, waayyy better rgb than every other switch
The sound of the Geon Raws HE is interesting
To me it looks like the Jade Maxes could be tighter than the Raws
Don't really see how being tighter then raw he would provide any benefit they are already at no rattle
that's good to know
Upgrades at this point would be different material/design for better sound profiles that more match mx switches
I'm sure as HE switches mature they will figure out ways to make different sounds
Hey guys I just got the Geon Raw HE switches but no matter what I do it doesnât seem to fit into my pcb. Does anyone know what Im doing wrong?
How are you trying to put them in 
And what are you putting them into
@safe stag What about the typing feeling? How do they feel?
Into the 60HE and just one by one without removing the pcb from the case
These have 2 extra bronze prongs at the bottom as opposed to the lekker switches that just have the 2 plastic stems so I dont how to make that fit
Did you get geon raw hes? Or geon raws?
Sounds like you got the mx switches instead of the HE switches
dang
Welp there goes 60 bucks
@polar girder bro did you see the Salvun Cosmos!!!
Just refund
Im not a fan of it myself
I love that finish so much ;3;
This one goes hard too
I do like that one!
Space chicken?
Ok whoa
That looks good
What
They brought back the rough and fabulous 
chat i just opened my keyboard box and how come mine sounds so creamy and thocky stock compared to others iâve heard
it sounds modded unless im just so used to my shitty ducky keyboard
Because sound tests will never be truly accurate to your environment
it sounds beautiful. i can only imagine how it sounds modded
the key presses are so smooth đ«
Hope ya have fun! 
whatâs the stock spring rate for these switches? iâm gonna get either jade pros or raw he but i think i might go a little lighter
bro
those are not raw he
those are mx
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stock is 60 grams, jades are a little less then that and raw have 40/50/60 grams
What keyboard
I know đđđ Ive never bought switches so thought there is only 1 version of Raw and its Hall effect
I emailed them to see if theyâll let me swap it
ummmm
theres more than 2 versions
but there is only ONE GEON RAW HE

There is a lot
They differ by spring

theres only 3 even if they differ from spring
60he
what would be the best screw in stabs for the 60he+ ?
right now its sw knights
ive read that tx and stabies do not fit
do they sell on aliexpress?
i dont think so
or at least i couldnt find it
i'll have a look on google, do you think it will make a significant difference from stocks?
i heard they are easier to tune
and get it sounding good
cool, long pole or normal?
are you us by chance?
EU
oh
uhh you dont need long pole
alrighty thanks, now i need to decide if i need the 70 v2 leekers xD
if youre sticking with lekkers you dont need long pole
understood, i will stick with leekers for sure, i really like them
forund the sw knights in eu
30 euro w shipping
thats quite a bit haha
i paid 26 usd for mine with shipping
well is about the same as the tx on ali
so for sure the sw knights 2 fully fit on the 60he+ right?
just remeber that the space bar is the 6.25U wire (shorter one)
yeah, i think the pack includes both
it does
was also checking the wooting coiled cable, it is amusing to me that it costs as much as a uWu keeb xD
they look like the same ones I use
they don't rlly do much to the sensor as long as it's thin enough
Well uh
That's not good
fixed it đ
had to readjust the screw
screwed it too tight
anyone got a good white color? i feel like the main white code is a little blue
I was recently watching a video on a 80HE and it looks like you can customize each key individually with Rapid Trigger. From my understanding the 60HE module doesn't have this option, you can either disable it for certain keys or enable it for all keys selected but can't customize each individual key for separate custom Rapid Trigger settings
For example, I want to have my "F" key to 0.15 Rapid Trigger while all the other keys I want to be at "0.30" Rapid Trigger. Anyone know if I'm correct or does the module also have this setting?
There's no difference between the module and the prebuilt one just doesn't come with keycaps and switches
These settings look different from each other - Module/80HE. Mine do not look this way but it's maybe because it's some beta version
^
This is the one I was using, is it some old version? https://wootility.io/
The one you linked shows "v5" I thought since it's browser based, it would always update to the latest version automatically
V5 is the version used for the 80he and the one that is in the quickstart guide 
It's possible i'm doing something incorrect but my module doesn't pair to this version of Wootility
Seems it has a seperate software from the module
Iâm gonna get rid of my 2 Tofu60s when I get that Salvation in the mail 
What color case did you end up getting?
What happens if you click the button to take you to v5 
For the Salvation I got the Rough and Fabulous
Didn't see that color here https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard?variant=39566383055015
What site did you order off of?
It asks me to pair, I select my device but nothing happens. It's like it's only for the 80HE
I'd assume there's some differences like the 8k polling rate along with the custom rapid trigger per key setting that the module currently doesn't seem to have
Are you talking about the 60he module or the 80he module
Seperate software, module is now outdated đ„č
60HE module
Let me get you the link
Since itâs a collab
In collaboration with GMK Cosmos, we're offering a limited edition of Salvation with a sparkly black powder coat and cosmic cherry logo laser engraved on the back.  Keycaps or artisan not included. Extra PCB's can be found here Extra Plates can be found here Pre-Order Information Timeline for the Salvation x Cosmos is
Well both should work with the new wootility v5
It is a rough finish btw so just a heads up
Anyway you don't need the new wootility to do what you're trying to do just select the key and change the actuation point
It must've been bugging out on me but I refreshed a couple times and it still didn't work. Tried again about 5 minutes later and it seems to have detected the device
So what's the difference between these 2 links?
https://wootility.io/
https://v5.wootility.io/ - Is this the beta?
Yes v5 is an in development build
Is this the version with the banned SOCD option?
It has it but so does the beta on v4
Would people want to run the older version for stability purposes? I can't see a reason to go back to that version anymore
Your mileage may vary on that one it's been stable for me
Were you looking specifically for the Cosmos edition Salvation case? If not, they're selling them cheap here:
Not exactly but assuming there's one special edition version, there may be some other special edition variants as well đ€
But I apprecaite the link, this is far cheaper than I've seen before. 114 USD in B stock
I got my original salvation for 200$ with the original non-Wooting PCB and case brand new off Mechmarket but this was a while back before I started seeing more deals pop up. I got another one for a friend months later for 140$ but this ashkeebs site is selling for 114$ which is a steal
Yeah I was tempted to get a silver myself, but figured wait awhile and save up for messing around with 80HE lol
I'm probably gonna pick up a black version but I don't think I want a B-Stock, I might wait for Novelkeys to bring down prices again
But I also never saw that cosmos edition salvation. That's new to me
I saw the "Cosmos" edition before, but I dont think Wilbakeys used to call it that. I'm wondering if it's the same exact board and just renamed. Looks cool, but personally not into Cosmos
I am Kosmos đ€Ż
My current salvation build đ„¶
Haha I mean of course GMK Cosmos 
Has anyone here actually gotten a B-Stock Salvation case from ashkeebs? https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/salvation-keyboard/ . I was curious to see more photos of someone who may have received their case. I'd prefer a better condition one but for 114$, I am considering this as an option
Big fan of the purple 
Yeah it was called Rough and Fabulous
They forced my hand to buy the key caps now at least
Yes there we go! They are the same exact ones as the "Cosmos" edition right, just renamed then?
I donât know if the original one has âcosmic cherry logo laser engravedâ
But besides that it should all be the same
Oh gotcha, thanks for that!
Yeah mine doesn't have that logo
bruh I want it so bad
but I just bought another keeb and keycaps and switches etc
I really don't wanna buy another pcb for it either 
I woke up and for some reason I decided to check the cosmos discord and the second I saw it instabought it lol
Iâm still made I missed out on these
Any Canadians know where I can get the Raw HE switches without having to pay egregious shipping and import fees? Its 3x the price with all those fees added
the timing for me is just kinda unfortunate but I also don't wanna pay for the full kit currently, maybe if it's still up next month
^ ditto for Australia
I was looking but I don't think so yet
Fingers crossed 
maybe Deskhero will get them eventually
hopefully since it's a pre-order it'll be up, I'll have to check
Yeah I was gonna preorder the collectors for the new sonic game, but decided on the keyboard instead
Cafege will have them eventually
Hopefully. I already bought them on their official site but accidentally ordered the MX ones instead of the HE ones so now Im in for buying it again đ
thanks
Did you see this one
LOL no that's dope
W
This was a month ago so 1-2 months they should have them
Thatâs cute
Hell yeah send a pic once you get it 
Geons D or F stock is probs KBFans A stock
Will do, I saw a streamer with one once and needed it lol
real
Did you get the cosmos keycap set or nah?
it will be until oct 15th i think
yeah $170 is a hard pill to swallow lol
Are those the ones Alexotos got?
not yet but I am going to shortly
I just bought keykobo retro mixed lights r2
and I kinda want the dark alphas if I can find them
Yeah I need to preorder them soon 
I think so!
that's good to know!
I wish it was fkn 170$
CAD sucks
Ok so I have a dilemma. I can convert one of my 60% boards with daughter board USB into an HE board. I need to figure out which one.
I want the Base and the Extension for sure
If I snag it I wanna get the base and the extras with the caps with a light port etc
Yeah I wasnât a big fan of the artist Salvun keycap they made with the little satellite
I'm not usually a huge artisan fan in general, I just have a HUGE soft sport for Lugia
it took me so fkn long to catch that pokemon it'll always be my fave lol
Darkrai better
there's def some cooler/cooler looking pokemon but I love Lugia so much
Ho-oh is another fave of mine
Maybe itâs because Iâm on mobile but the keycaps are color speckled slightly?
if you mean in the salvation photos I think they're just renders
the real keycaps are almost the same colour
gmk cosmos
My favorite modern legendary
I hate how the only artisans I wanted were like only up for 24 hours or 48
The nature of raffles

frog mini restock?
In all my foamy builds yeah
Makes the spacebar much closer to other keys in sound
@stray tiger How's the frog build?
Bro no way they just tagged teamed me with the Salvation case and the Tamagotchi keycaps @left depot 

Whatâs the space bar size for wooting again
It's done for today. Just wanted to get a quick build up. I'll try and rebuild later but I'm seriously considering getting a new plate from Hype for one of the other cases I have with center mount USB and breaking the daughter board out of the PCB
6.25u
Thanks
What thickness do you use?
Think Iâll just end up buying the ones from kbd fans
Which color salvation you getting?
Mine only came in one thickness since itâs just from swagkeys locally here lol
I did get the cosmos collab
Wait, you talking Salvation case or just the cap?
A thicker foam in spacebar would mean like a deeper sound right?
The salvation but with the Rough and Fabulous finish
Oh nice that's đ„ I didnt see that
But theyâre calling it the cosmos collab
Link to the salvation thing?

In collaboration with GMK Cosmos, we're offering a limited edition of Salvation with a sparkly black powder coat and cosmic cherry logo laser engraved on the back.  Keycaps or artisan not included. Extra PCB's can be found here Extra Plates can be found here Pre-Order Information Timeline for the Salvation x Cosmos is
I think I'm going to sell my Salvation actually, I never use it. Bit too purple for me
Do the springs feel nice?
Super pretty
Yeah the cosmos are black on black
But idk how people use that
The salvation doesnât come with the keycaps btw just the case
Ohhh itâs so faint
Like I said, I never use it. Doesn't match well color wise with my desk
Yeah I know Iâm more interested in the key caps that were mentioned 
Ahhhh thatâs fair, I have 2 tofu60s right now the meteorite gray and the acrylic. 
Ohhhhh
Goddam the artisan is 80 sgd
They have a lot of collabs going, sadly a lot of them. Are raffles too :c
It's almost lilac instead of purple.
Ohhhh thatâs a pretty finish
Yeah my daughter loves it but I won't let her have it. She has an 80HE now
Damn we got children into keyboard now
đ„ș
Thatâs so sweet
Awww and Iâm sure youâd be able to sell it off pretty fast
I love that colour
I feel like I'd use that over the darker colour personally but it's so cool the colours the salvation comes/came in
I really like the avalanche and copper slag too
Finished up the base of my build, now time to move on to mods xP
Heres a lil sound test, comparing stock 60he+ to my version. At the end I also try out some spacebar foam, not really a fan of it atm.. I feel it makes it a bit too stiff, tried my best to show that off in the vid. If anyone has any tips or recommendations for mods lmk!
(also ik im a super slow typer, im getting back into practicing T.T)
pochi and me over here be like
Iâll buy it from you for 3 dolar 
mmm, dream keycaps
4 dola
hello im looking to change the case on my 60he (white and keeps the loop for the "take control") need recommendations
I donât think thereâs a case that lets you keep the loop besides the alumaze I could be wrong though
ah thanks
The alumaze looks awesome in white btw super classy
If u lookin for an cheaper/more minimalistic option you can use the tofu 60 redux from Kbd fans
They want the ability to keep the loop though
Oh hehe mb
tofu 60 redux was my other option
now im just stuck on keycaps
no idea where to look for those
@supple zenith yeah lots of people use that as a reference
Sorts stuff by region
ohhh ok thanks
Are the geon raw 60 same as the lekker 60
If you are in the US you have a lot of options EU is more limited
im in US looking for some white keycaps
What type and do you care about rgb also budget is a factor
prefered the keycaps that glow through ~50 usd my budget can move
Abs or pbt?
Also I would recommend pbt for white sets personally
tighter and heavier than jades
no idea about the difference
ill go with your recommendation tho
Well ads tends to shine which shows more on white sets and it also might yellow over time thatâs the main reason also if you like quality abs you would most likely go for the most common option of gmk which start at around 120$ usually
im not too picky with it
tho im not looking to pay too much for keycaps
if you need shinethrough keycaps might get wooting ones
Well my pick would be Wuque Studio BoW or Cafe sets but for more budget you can go with Honey XDA I heard good things but havenât tried it personally
thank man
imma get jades with a redux case with pompom keycaps with a tape mod
I keep looking for an EU store that has pre-orders for this too but i cant find it D;
Has anybody used the l45v2 switches to update a stock 60he. I have a box from wooting and want to know if itâs a worthwhile first dip into modding my 60he?
Whilst I have it in pieces what else should I do?
;3; idk if itâs only for America
Or if itâs because itâs Cannonkeys
It goes live on the 27th btw so maybe theyâre still sorting stuff out
Is that raiden
lubers, is it really necessary to dissemble the whole keyboard to lube the switches? Have watched wootings own YT-video on lubing where it was recommended to do that in order to minimize anything damaging - but I guess what can be damaged is the switches itself, not the PCB. How do you do it?
When I lubed my L v1, i dissasembled the whole thing to be sure that the switches did not get damaged - but now I will switch to Geon Raws
Which geon raw switch should I get if I want it to be similar to the lekker 60
Anyone know?
60g
geon raw he 60g
Okay thank u guys
Folks who got their 80Hes, how's the stabs performance. Do they need changing or they are good?
I already got my geon raws he and some space bar foam and bought some keycaps
I did mod my Wooting Lekker Edition some months ago and wanted to give some feedback. And I totally forgot to do so.
I made some (crappy) recordings back then, which I put together in a video now. I think it still shows, that some minor work on a Wooting2HE (or Lekker) can have some drastic effects. Especially greasing stabs.
Not sure if anyone is interested, but anyways:
https://youtu.be/nBWWRZcZidc?si=Kr7SKitgbD0nrrhB
By the way, I also tried putting some foam between the case and the PCB but that didnt really change the sound at all.
As written in the video:
I am aware of the poor recording quality. This is not a sound test!
This video is simply supposed to show what kind of difference to expect when modding a Wooting Lekker Edition / Wooting Two HE.
What I changed:
- Gateron Magnetic Jade switches (hand lubed with Krytox 205G0 switch lube)
- Greased and lubed stock stabili...
From what I've seen mostly with reviews and such. Stabilizers are good. But the spacebar could use a bit more lube.
they're just gateron stabs iirc, which are fine, just might need a better lube job
I'm totally new to keebs so lubing ain't my my cup of tea
But I'll give it a shot
there's some really good videos on basic stab lubing you can follow. Like the alexotos video gives you a solid run down
best advice i can give is get the stabs tuned before you do everything else
if you put on all the switches, keycaps etc then find out your stabs need work it will suck to take it all apart again
any advice?
another order from geonđ
Will take your advice to my heart tysm
i mean, I don't, but your milage may vary depending on how tight your switches fit
Grease the stabs and lube the housing.
personal preference. Most use thicker greases that you'll find in the alexotos video for example, some prefer even thicker xht-bdz which is super thick, and some more modern stabs don't even use either (but this doesn't apply to your gateron stock ones anyway)
Will watch that video again then
I had good results with krytox on the housings and either grease or bdz on wires
Damn...I ordered GEON Raws HE and today taxed came on top...I am paying more taxes+shipping than the actual switches now đ
I used Wootings package of lube&grease and got very good results. Grease the wire and lube the parts of the housing that cause friction
yup that's the way to do it
Results for the space bar of my Lekker edition were extreme tbh... But the Lekker had some really rattling stabs đ
actually good the wires are also somewhat balanced and tuned already
i still changed to knight stabs v2 tho because this is now my baby
why the knight v2?
No idea where to get knight v2s in Europe :/
delta keys. But they sell out quick whenever they get new batch
my stabs were rattling out of the box
Candykeys, Deltakey
No I meant is it the best?
knight v2 slight tuning doesnt have to be perfect then byebye ticking
I wannt take care of my baby too
there isn't really a 'best' for stabs
TX AP Stabilizers Rev 4 Features: Designed by kin25 Clip-In Stabilizers Doubleshot Stem POM Outside TPU & POM Inside Stabilizer Stoppers, prevents wire drop-out Supports both 6.25U and 7U Available in: Type: Base, 2U Color: Black, White, White/Pink Size: 1.6T (Normal PCB), 1.2T Revisions: Rev. 2: Inserts were revis
it's just that some stabs are easier to get working rattle free vs others, but almost all stabs can be tuned to be good
Like what is the best performance stabs
and in most cases just a proper good lube job fixes rattle for any stab
that isn't a thing
Ahh I see
it's like asking what is the best performance spoon
they're all spoons that work unless you buy a really weird shaped spoon
So what's the easiest stabs to tune
my spoon is pretty fast
Why clip in
knight v2. But it will cost you more time and effort to buy separate stabs vs just tuning your current stabs
I had the best experience with stabies + geon wires
But they don't fit the wooting PCB
most of us swapping stabs just do it because we like a particular stab and can do it - not because it's better vs. just tuning the stock stabs with more lube
easier for me
I get it tysm
I do swap stabs because tuning bad stabs is a pain in the A***
I checked their website is on kit of knights v2 enough?
Yep
I wanna try and If i fail I fail
4x 2U and 1x 6.25U
i don't know why i ever bother telling anyone they don't need new stabs
everyone just buys new stabs anyway because they feel pressured by everyone saying they use x stab
If you have grease+lube, try that first. Eliminated any rattle on my Lekker edition and my 60he
I'm still in the buying phase
yeah legit even just buying a syringe with lube in it like a ton of keyboard stores sell is more than enough to fix 9/10 stabs
Got some gmk keycaps and geon raws and space bar foam
you shove the end in, push a little lube in, give it a wiggle wiggle and that normally fixes most rattly stabs
Didn't buy the lube and grease yet
Why do so many people buy spacebar foam?
Fomo
Because they have no tape;)
because space bar sounds very different to other keys in a foamy build and people don't like it as much
Oh one reason to get different stabs might be if you need long pole ones for ~3.5mm switches. However I didnt need that for my Lekker/60he. Some claim they need it
i did tape mod 5 mins ago, everything is perfect, instead of "clacky" spacebar
Is the knight v2 lone pole?
knight come in both long pole and non long pole
Nice
you have to pick the right option, although if you buy long pole you can't install normal length switches so that's something to keep in mind for future
I have geon raws on the way
Raw are 3.4 right?
yeah
Well. As I said, I didnt have any issue with Jades (shorter as well) and my stock Lekker/60he stabs. However that also seems to depend on how stable the keycaps are
i've actually never seen that issue happen before either and almost all my switches are long pole
At first my spacebar could tilt to the left&right but once I really pressed down the keycap with force, it was fastened enough and now it does not tilt anymore
I have seen some videos where the spacebar was problematic but no idea what keycaps they used
I do use tweezers do push the stab stem into the spacebar on both sides
They won't bottom out on long pole switches
Works as well I guess
I've seen a video on that method, but cannot find it now. I persume I will need to do something similar with the G Raw (given the 3.4 travel distance).
Do you just force the stab stem onto the keycap with the tweezer?
I just block the stab with tweezers and push down the keycap until itâs fully seated on the stabilizer
guess u are doing that before you mount the pcb to the case?
I'm currently struggling to find keycaps that I like that are available in Europe :/
all the nice stuff that I want are only available in the US
it's so annoying
You can do it fully assembled as well.
Hey someone got 15 o rings they would sell me on vinted ?

Just buy them on AliExpress or something
But what size and dimentions are recommended for the wooting ?
It would be more expensive than getting them new.
For what purpose exactly?
Is it for the screws?
Burger, keycap or friction.
I use these for burger
idk if theyâre correct but they fit
anyone with G raws experiencing issues with the wooting stock stabs, i.e. they are not properly seated or the key cap keeps popping out?=
Yeah, burger mount
reduced travel
No
get stem spacers or long pole stab or better keycaps
I have em and there is NO fucking issue
đ
You dont, people do
I do
???
@vague stag
I use the ones I posted a pic of idk what other people use
Whatever

im going to try, if it does not work or gives me issue I might keep the L v1 for the stabs
Those are a bit on the fat side, you use longer screws I presume?
Wait yeah!
Wait
orrrrrr
Can you send me the link?
@vague stag
Either works
But lekker v1 for stabs?

Good to mention as well. Iâd recommend longer screws for any O-Ring size above 1mm in thickness but still.
Amazon probably has M2 x6mm screws as well.
On their yt, wooting are using stock screws
With these O-Rings, you wonât be able to get away with using just stock screws.
It should be these and these
Dude stop screenshotting
Why lol
Can u just send the link xd ?
Oh Iâm dumb
No its fine
Why 2 ?
The first are for the burger and the 2nd ones are just for the back
Yeah 
What is the back ?
what is considered long in this case? đ
The back of the pcb
Or front I donât even remember anymore just get the first ones
You use different screws?
Wym do i not neee only like 5 screws ?
Yeh!
WHY?! đ
Can i get the link for the i rings as well ?
Just a different quality
Thx but where do i put the other screws ? I dont get it
I changed the ones on the back
You donât need different screws for the front/back.
Just get the first screws forget the 2nd ones
Thx
Wait
Hm ?
Listen to what @tawdry tree recommends too though
Yeah yeah
they will specify
id say long poles stabs become optional below 3.7 and suggestible around 3.4/3.5
If those screws arenât available in your region, get these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YCCXVDF/
thanks!
Thx a lot
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1.2mm
do these come with stab shims?
i dont think so
You need 1.6.
look for one with 1.6
thanks!
be mindful that there are issues and some tx ap stabs might not fit
oooh, thank you!
With the release of the 80HE, the warning in #đȘâmodding_faq needs to specify the 60HE+ as the issue was resolved in the 80HE.
ordered yesterday, and confirmed shipping today - can it really be true that it takes a MONTH to deliver when ordering from ALI to Sweden?
the estimated date is usually the worst case, so likely it will be faster
Go me!
wow is that some sort reward or medal?
4 years sobriety today.
awesome, go you!
yeah that's fine if you're using raw he switches, but not if you're using lekker v2
Thanks buddy!
delta key when they restock or have to order from aliexpress (but you might get hit by taxes on the way in if your country charges taxes)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html
https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch
Geon Raw HE Switches specifications: Each pack contains 10 switches Linear Hall-Effect Switch Top Housing: PC Bottom Housing: Nylon Stem: POM Spring: 15.0mm, Single Pre-travel: 0.1 ~ 3.3mm (Analog) Total Travel: 3.4mm Initial Force: 36.0g Bottom-out: 50.0g Magnetic Flux: Initial: 160Gs Bottom-out: 720Gs 2-Pin Lubed
I don't think I've been unable to tune my stabs well enough that I needed new ones in a few years now
The Leakers!!
Iâd go for the 50g
Thx đ
dkc
congrats!
@calm pulsar mechmarket delivered the Lazziesđ„
whats that?
Lazurites arrived
ahh nice
mechmarket pulled thru fr
I am now a geon raw believer. Ordered the 50g đ
Also, for the switches being compatible, this also means that it's accuracy to the 0.1mm would be correct using wootility?
And would the wootility still show 4.0mm for a switch that travels only 3.6mm?
It still shows 4.0
It works off a percentage rather than physical actuation
4.0 would basically = switch fully depressed
Thank you!
Hmm okay. So setting it to 0.5mm actuation would be more like .. 0.45mm?
why is it depressed, send it to therapy
Yeah more like this
Idk how the actuations actually line up
After getting my dashes though I ended up raising my actuation point to 0.3 over 0.1
Because 0.1 was incredibly low
Gotcha. Is the switch pre-calibration for the next version of wootility still in the works? Like it wasn't an abandoned idea or anything
welcome to the community! our lord geon will be pleased by your desision and may he bless you for years to come!
I'm reading it from the modding faq
Yes, but it's just not available in the v5 alpha yet
Probably comes out during beta or full release
Gotcha. Sounds look a cool idea. But otherwise yeah, once I get the switches I'll see how they run with the actuation points đđ» so excited to replace my Lekker v1s on my 60he, and then eventually on my 80he
also the raw he are only 3.4mm travel so it might be a little off from what you want
You may just need to adjust rt values and actuation points to account for this
đ
its confirmed that they will add an option in wootility in the future to select what switches you have for proper mm display on those sliders
Did that for my dashes and it was fine
Soonâą
soon...
Thanks for the info! đđ»Lol it's hard to search for these answers because the search function isn't super dynamic
But I definitely didn't have to look far to get recc'd some geons lol
Insane for the price too compared to jades
Bless Geon all that that the touches!
sno is the lead advocate for Geon
he will also be pleased by your wise desision
made another order from geon's local korean store today
Oh also, do I need to do anything to my stabilizers for the geons? Or is it just easy switch n play?
Was reading about the long pole stabilizer issue. Dunno if that applies
as long as your keycaps are good quality you dont need stab replacements
Total travel distance (3.5mm) divided by 40 steps = 0.0875mm per mm shown in Wootility. So 0.5mm in Wootility would be 0.44mm in reality. đ
If you have keycaps with bad tolerances you may need to swap to long pole stabs
thats specific to only the 60HE with TX AP Stabilizers
it was fixed with the 80he
Hello chat
Gotcha
Shoudl I film lekkers or no
v1.5s and v2s no
If I do run into that issue, would these spacers help? Or do they serve a different function?
The potential long pole issue isnât fixed in the 80HE, just stabilizer hole size so stabilizers like TX APs and Staebies will fit through the 80HEâs plate perfectly but not through the 60HEâs plate.
Thank you fren
np npđ
films are helpful on switches that have bad tolerances (like lekker v1s), but if you have a good switch then films won't really help or even mess with your switch
What even are those
yeah these are designed for the purpose of making your stabs act like they're long pole
Yup, you put them over your stab stems, then put the keycap on top.
Oh sweet. Lol I threw them into my cart Incase because it looked like i might need them.
another loyal geon follower to the flock
Havenât built a Hall effect keeb yet and was rummaging around in my drawer and found a whole bunch of deskkeys films
glory to Geon and all that he touches
Agreed
I donât even have a Hall effect keyboard yet but I love it
The switches itself are enough

well you can just see if the switch housings move around if you try to move them, if yes then you can try the films, other than that I'd say it's not worth the hassle
What kind of spacebar foam do you guys reccomend?
ngl shorter travel is nicer than i thought
anything you have
I love how often this is thrown around. If someone peered into a window and saw this, they might actually think we are cultists
I just got some at Ali express
Finally math is going to be useful for me
cut up the one that comes in the stock wooting 60he and shove that shi all in the spacebar đŻ
I meant this one
(its what i did)
Is venom pcb out to international yet o no
Haha, well, the difference is very little so it shouldnât matter. đ đ
only the TKL one currently
@winged turtle
this reminds me I had some kbdfans spacebar foam, might try it rn
its a bonus too, theres a sticky side on the foams
Saldy I can't but a Wooting because it's expensive asf
dont need to worry about it falling out
But I do want to work on Wooting one day in the customer service
Could get one second hand perhaps? Prices are quite a bit lower and still come with the warranty.
I already buyed another one cheaper but when the new Wooting comes out and if the reviews are good then I will buy one
And mod it
Because I always wanted to mod a 80HE
Wdym new wooting
The one after the 80HE
Guys, any blank keycap (without legend) with transparent bottom? Like this
Hm
@calm pulsar check dm
Guys any predictions
It won't be out for at least 2 years, which will be a lot of time to gather money
lol nvm this foam doesnt fit into gmk spacebars and probably doesnt help much anyways
Brung my board to school 
If you can fill those trenches with foam you will get a fuller sound
i find it to help a bunch when i shoved foam in my spacebar
although you will block the rgb
Peeps using it rn lol
the rgb looks fine
these trenches, this and the plate being pushed down by the top case altered the spacebar sound imo, if you take the top case off youll hear what the spacebar should sound like
i find that those leds arent as bright/more showing because there isnt a switch diffuser on them
hmm that's interesting to try
oh, so when i do buy the geons, i need spacers for the same amount of switches that i am to use? i didnt know about that
all good, I don't really use it
only on caps lock
alright thanks
god i dont think i can ever get used to the weight of the tofu60+brass weight
its so heavy
i love it
found it, sent you a dm đ
guys is it just me or modding a th80 for someone is like life and death situation
I want my salvation case already 
@cold bloom this Whale artisan is looking really cool right now
melena
Whaa
first thing that came to mind when I saw the keycap
Ohhhhhhh lol
My friend who makes the tree artisans I collect is doing a cosmos collab too and he is using bits of real opal in his for the stars
Here is what the unfinished/unpolished caps might look like
Wowowow I might wait for this one instead 
Are you gonna pick one up
?
If they have a white variant Iâd buy that so fast 
Real opal is crazy
Very cool cap
I'll entere the raffle. Im not guaranteed anything just because he is a friend lol
DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK - https://keycapquarry.com/
Best place to buy keycaps made out of genuine rocks, gemstones, and more. Custom artisan keycaps that have a cool, aesthetic appealâperfect for the esc, wasd, backspace and arrow keys. Compatible with Cherry Mx style mechanical keyboards. Handcrafted by Carter Stay.
The owner is another local friend of mine. His cosmos collab sold out in in a very short time
Ohhhh!
Damn
Im smooth brained, I canât read đ
#clicking
Some of them are actually reasonably priced, thought it'll be almost all $150+
Okay those caps are fire
Spending money on yourself, loved ones and keyboards are much better. Happy for you and congrats!
Iâve always wanted more gemstone artisans and it looks like heâs the guy 
Congrats!
Haha! Indeed! Thanks buddy
Thank you so much!
@stray tiger can we talk about this tho, this is incredible
Oh he has a lazurite cap this is so joever
lol I already bought two artisans for cosmos. I think Iâm done.
Won my first and only artisan raffle. 
I want my first artisan to be blessed with holy water
As a space enjoyer I need some of these caps
Iâm gonna wait a couple months and forget about my other purchases in the mean time 
Iâm still trying to see if I can get lucky and buy PBS BoB and Cosmos at same time from Cannonkeys
Havenât even bought Cosmos yet 
Anyone know the size of lekker springs in diameter?
Any and all recommendations for sets that look good with PCR ghost?
Iâd try looking for transparent caps, there was one that the thockfather shared that looks incredible
Is this really necessary for all switches or just spacebar?
Which ones did you get
Those
Both are sick asf but the last one especially
Iâm pretty pumped
And the malice one the chain is legit
And moveable
Pretty crazy
Yeah
its a clean ass chain too
bloody fingers but who cares when it looks like that
Is this the white one?
If so pbtfans x-ray đ„
hello, any suggestions on good doubleshot pbt keycaps ? price ain't bothering me but waiting is and every set i looked either baited me into thinking it was PBT hmm hmm looking at you PBTfans coolest keycaps or ain't in stock
Hi sir why I canât use lekers? And can use only geon?
because you chosen the long pole version
which is for switches for a shorter travel like the geon raws at 3.4mm
if you want to use lekkers (4.0mm) , get the normal knight
thx sir
guys is there any cool arm rest that matches with 60he?
Tons of good PBT keycaps out there. If you dont see a PBTFans setr in-stock you like, try major sites like NovelKeys, CannonKeys, Omnitype, etc (if youre in the US)
ah i think he means pbtfans are usually abs
and he is baited into thinking they are pbt
Also, Omnitype is running their last happy hour of the year (or ever) sale. Just started 28min ago - https://omnitype.com/collections/happy-hour
Typically just the transparent ones, at least with the older sets
yeessss i mean not every set is ABS but cmonnnnn their coolest set is not PBT
đ which one is that?
pbt is quieter?
Thicker PBT is usually more muted
a lot of the new pbtfans seem to be abs tho
Do they have transparent keycaps in those sets?
i found a guy that had brand new Ryokan and i love the look but they are ABS
the one that i got is count dracula
Hell yeah I love that flail mace one
which is abs without transparent
these one too they look good
untamed doesnt have transparent either i think
Tuzi
my weakness nooooooo
Yeah looks good!
its only for the colour heavy ones it seems like
If youre in the US thats a great price!
The tamagotchi keycaps come out tomorrow though :c
as in vibrant colours
So like
Gave my teacher my keeb to try
Yknow what she said
"It sounds creamy omg đ±! " 

Not dreamy? boo
LMAO
Dreamy > every sound profile
The sound profile we dream of that we can never achieve
50 points to anyone who can guess what I was going for here.
No itâs the black frosted one
Is that one of those flying ships the enemies use in super mario?
No
Looks close lol
lol kinda

Nah 1 switch can achieve that
Hmm, my friend told me that requiring the geon spacer stems would be keycap specific (?) so if I were to be using a set of cherry profile caps, would anyone know if the set of spacers is essential purchase once I get an order in for the geon raws.
WHY IS MY WHITE RGB BLUE 
what switch are you using
Not needed for HE switches
Jade pro
appreciate the reply thanks
Raw he here I come
How are they
How are the jade pros Iâm wondering
lol they sound good, but the white rgb being blue is enough to make me buy the raw he's
Typing feels great and they really improved the stem wobble
I see thanks Iâll also probably get jades pro
They're an improvement over the OG Jades, if you like how those sound you should like those switches as well since they're the same price
Donât use white often
since it has a colored housing it'll dilute your RGB a little bit and give you more green/blue
White is the only option I use, hate the gamer red and rainbow leds everyone uses lol
RAW isn't exactly transparent either, but they should be more neutral
Not a colored housing, will be an improvement
true
Where u buying it
looks like divinikey since they use 18 sets
Divinikey
@sleek wagon can you send a sound test for jade pros
ìë It's Mikey here! With the Wooting 80HE starting shipping and orders arriving lets finish up the Wooting 60 Switch Upgrades with the new Jade Pro and Black Knight and of course the Max once it arrives. My Wooting 80HE is coming in tomorrow and I will definitely be doing many videos on that! Let's do today's comparison with the Dash, Geonworks...
I'm at work rn I'll try to remember for when I get off
will wootin sell jade pro?
They're working on getting the RAWs on the store front. They're the same price so just order it off gateron if you're interested in them
Not sure on their timeline
i was waiting for the end of thee month to get the geon raw he but since you're saying ill probably wait a bit more
If you're set on the RAWs id just get them now
Yeah timeline for them being on the store could be a while
ah ok, thank you, ill get them then
No guarantees for any timelines since the pros are relatively new
Jade Max/Pro probably wont be found on a EU seller anytime soon right
check amazon
it might not be in stock tho
geon raws he
also this is the answer
true..
still no geon raw he sound test on the 80he other than the wooting vid?
There are sound tests in here you just have to look for em #đ§âkeyboard_modding message
Ive got geon raws on my 80he and Ive posted a few videos
Here are 2 stock RAW's on 80HE
AM IN HEAVEN
that space bar... chefs kiss
use blackberry as input device
creamy thocky marbly is crazy
Im on the clack side, maybe a bit creamy
Idk what mine is
Whereâs dreamy!!??
@stone flax just the guy I need to talk to
Thats the whole triangle
Faxxxxx
thocky poppy marbly clacky and creamy, omg
Ainât it supposed to follow the arrow? Starting with 10 on the right and ending with 100 on the left. đ„Ž
pop = 100% clack confirmed
I've got 3 60% boards that I can mount the venom PCB in, but have to chose one since a plate has to be made. Choices are:
- Budget - Midway60
- Mid - Iron160
- Top - Derivative
What are your thoughts?
Im leaning towards the Midway60 since its just collecting dust but can support a proper o-ring mount
oh waitt
U got all 3
Yes
Derivative would be interesting just because of the multiple mounting options to test out, but the midway is budget enough that I wouldnt care if it didnt turn out great.
same thought, derivative could be peak tho 
do derivative
hii bro
Heavenly marble 
Honestly, probably would be. I'll probably do the Midway just for proof of concept and then order a second PCB if it turns out great
hi broskiii
oh a second pcb makes that the play
hi tirade 
is it wrong call him thockfather
Only if youre younger than me
riv
I heard u got a sho
is that true???
Should I go silicone or foam pad
yeah it's coming to me in a week
fuck man
Im a sheep. Now silicone or foam pad
Neither
Clarify
$315 shipped 
You dont have to use any dampening material
im reporting you
for stealing

Between the plate and pcb?

How's that affect the sound?
Deadass I didn't know you could just not use anything lmao
thats the thing.. it doesnt
real he gave me a deal - comes with 2014 pro 2 
using dampening materials is literally what affects and adulterates the sound
wtf
did they steal it?
Less dampening is literally the rawer the sound gets
no sir - I just know how to negotiate - og listing was $400
me tooo hehe
Got the frog down from 315 to 265
đ
im not as good as you
@stray tiger unrelated, if I bought one of those gemstone artisan caps would I need to use a heavier spring (100g)
mate that is pretty good to me! Full built with 60he too
Would depend on the weight of the cap. You can ask the maker, he is super responsive.
I might see if he can do a lazurite custom, that would go hard
Since the RAMA artisan is chalked
Durock v3 pcs mount VS Designer Studio pcb mount v2? What should i get? Cant get knight v2's in my country
With wooting pc plate
Designer Studioâs, Durock V3s are wider and donât fit well.
tell me im goat
istg i put on the designer studio train

ur đ

So no pad is the move
u did. I didnât know about em before u said it
didnât even know Durock straight up CPed designerâs design.
đ«€
happens a lot tho 
throwbackâŠ..

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Does a simple o-ring work as a stem spacer?
