🔧│keyboard_modding

[uneven cradle]

Not the biggest fan personally but I know a lot of people will like it

[ionic breach]

not for me either ngl

looks...

very british

[honest flume]

https://kenokeys.com/collections/frontpage/products/the-infinity-set

would this set work on the 80he with jade switches?

[uneven cradle]

Oh yeah that as well but I was talking about

[ionic breach]

damn dats bright

[stone flax]

Yeah but these dont look the best

[honest flume]

wdym

[ionic breach]

asymmetrical

[honest flume]

ah damn, im looking for that type of color too

white blueish/darkish blkue

light blue works too

[honest flume]

https://divinikey.com/products/jtk-fishing-keycap-set-tripleshot-abs?variant=40495035547713

what about these?

[ionic breach]

its ur decision lmao

its ur style

[honest flume]

no i meant the legends

like is hte brand jtk

the

will it work with jades

[ionic breach]

wait nvm

dont buy that

[honest flume]

why?

[ionic breach]

seems overpriced

[stone flax]

jtk makes good tripleshots

??????

[ionic breach]

nvm its ur preference

get whatever you think seems nice

[honest flume]

more so looking for compatibility for it

not design

[stone flax]

if hes looking for tripleshots the options are lacking so its not really overpriced

[ionic breach]

oh its compatible ofc

all mx compatible are

which is 99% of keycaps

[ionic breach]

ya

[honest flume]

https://divinikey.com/collections/keycap-sets/products/mw-yeeti-light-keycap-set

mw too?

[ionic breach]

look for mx compatible in the description

the brand dont matter

modding rn

80he just arrived very hyped

[jade prairie]

this one is interesting

might just geta tofu60 2.0

[ionic breach]

u fishing for a custom keyboard?

[jade prairie]

yeah

[ionic breach]

why not margo?

[jade prairie]

whats a margo

[ionic breach]

https://kbdfans.com/products/margo

dune is also another you can find

[crimson sky]

mount is kinda ass

limits build variety

[ionic breach]

i mean ya

[crimson sky]

price ain't especially great either

[ionic breach]

i love the design tho

im a sucker for themed

[crimson sky]

you can't see the bottom in use

unless it's use is sitting on a stand

[ionic breach]

but i know its there

[jade prairie]

oh well i absolutely want an iso

i did not order international caps for naught

[ionic breach]

best of luck then

[jade prairie]

currently considering qk65, tofu60 2.0, and the pluto

the pluto has the most interesting layout

qk65 has that lil notch so idk how it affects layouts

[dire delta]

Classic version of QK65?

I do run a QK65 R1 at my office

Its great for the price

Nothing special tho

[stone flax]

why margo?

the mounting is terrible and it sounds cheeks

[ionic breach]

it seashell

[stone flax]

backweight dont save it

[ionic breach]

it wavy too

[stone flax]

[ionic breach]

nah im a sucker of design

i will prioritise it over anything

[stone flax]

sucker is true

[ionic breach]

aw man the black zinc is so sick tho

this will be so cool for a gamer's first dip into actually nicely built kbs

[stray tiger]

First he needs to figure out what form factor he wants. He suggested both 60 and 65

Then budget I guess

[candid wolf]

hello guys has anyone tried geon he raw? I'm undecided on which one to order 40/50/60! is there any feedback

Now I’m on h60 lek v1 yellow 45

[robust siren]

i have the geon raw 40 grams, imo its great and light enough where i dont feel fatigued while typing a lot on it but it depends on what you want

[robust siren]

do you feel like the L45s are too light?

[neat thorn]

i'm new to the custom keyboard building, i have the lekker l45 v2 and GEON Raw HE.
the geon raw he feels better, but still the springs noise is bad !

[paper bloom]

50

50 is an imbetween

I own the 60

Get 40 if u want the lightest

[neat thorn]

Maybe i should try different springs. Do you have any knowledge about good springs replacement?

[paper bloom]

Which one the raws or lekkers ?

And what weihht

Weight*

U running

[neat thorn]

both, lubbing helps a little, but after using Topre for a while this are feeling so cheap...

[glacial wind]

why not just lube the springs?

geon sells HE spring replacements that are low in ping, but honestly you can just lube the springs and ping will be gone

[candid wolf]

Is good

I order 40

But have problem 🙈

I can’t order

[robust siren]

if youre EU you should order from delta keys for cheaper shipping https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[random hull]

do you have to pay import duties over it in italy?

prob shouldnt dox urself

any idea when delta is getting stock again

[austere creek]

oh wait sorry

was another retailer i thought of

[robust siren]

no clue but you can sign up to be notified when it does restock

[random hull]

yea I got that, someone said 2 weeks was the ETA, been a few days since though. I:d like to get in on the next batch

[robust siren]

we can only assume since this is Wootings discord and not Deltakey's discord

[livid imp]

guys what do you think about clay keyboard case? because I have a School Exercise and we need to make something out of clay and I thought maybe a Wooting Keyboard case

[polar girder]

That’s a cool idea lol

[grave plaza]

hi guys kinda weird question here, does anybody have a good cable vendor? I've found that all my other cables have a shorter type-c connector where when I move the keyboard a little bit it disconnects.

[polar girder]

Wired in

[grave plaza]

is that the name of a vendor?

[dire delta]

Geon RAW HE

United States:
https://zkeebs.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches
https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches

Europe:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html
https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch

Korea:
https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

New Zealand:
https://www.kiwiclack.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch
https://sympletech.co.nz/products/geon-raw-he-switch

Worldwide:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

China:
https://kbdfans.com/products/geon-raw-he-magnetic-switch

[random loom]

Should I make myself broke

[random hull]

Are those good? Can:t say I have seen them brought up much

[random loom]

Cuz they were only on the Akko Hall effect keyboards

They weren’t sold separately

So I had to search the internet for 4 DAYS STRAIGHT

[random hull]

Ohh interesting, so they only just became available eh. Hopefully someone gives them a run for test soon

Oh wow

Yeah that looks really expensive

[loud gull]

3,80 for 10 pcs I assume?

Usually Akko is pretty budget with their switches

[random loom]

1 piece 💀

[neat thorn]

lubbing the springs help for a bit, but it's just nothing comparing to Topre, i was thinking i could replace with better springs but it's just how they are designed.. i was used to rubber dome, and now it feels just cheap...

[random loom]

Am not joking

[loud gull]

My god

Stick to the RAW HE then lol

[random loom]

Ye prob

[robust siren]

💀

[candid wolf]

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005007782574456.html

I found these links in the discord for eu! do you think they are original??

[random loom]

idk

[candid wolf]

Love

[devout torrent]

yes

[candid wolf]

Thx

[random loom]

wait waht are the odds that after i got the geon raw hes akko decides to release the cream yellow switch seperately 💀

[robust siren]

at 3.80 per switch.... no thanks

[random loom]

fr

[candid wolf]

The price is x 10 switch ?

[robust siren]

@candid wolf

[candid wolf]

Is dronk ?

😂💀

[robust siren]

💀

[random loom]

NAHHHHH

[robust siren]

5 DOLLARS FOR A SINGLE SWITCH

[random loom]

THIS IS FUNNY

[candid wolf]

Really ? 340€ x 60 switch 😂

Is a joke 😂

[robust siren]

1 hour of US minimum wage wont even get you 2 switches

[random loom]

FR

[ionic breach]

gateron ultra

[candid wolf]

I'll wait for them to arrive at the store

[random loom]

The second I buy my geon raw switches trust me akko is gonna release them so i will regret my life decisions

[ionic breach]

nah

no hall effect can touch raws rn

[robust siren]

glory to Geon and all that he touches, let the song of the heavens bless your ears. doubting his products is doubting in our lord

[random loom]

last time I brought the viper v2 pro mouse, 2 minutes after i got it THEY RELEASES THE V3 PRO

[robust siren]

you can just retrun it 😅

[random loom]

yep i did that

and now i use v3 pro

[robust siren]

im still using the gpxs (original) because i cant be assed to spend another 100 something on another mouse

and i have a g502 as backup when the gpxs eventually breaks

eventually because it will happen

[random loom]

i swear i seen people break it after 2 months

[robust siren]

its just dust getting inside the scroll wheel encoder and i dont feel like taking apart the mouse

oh well free warranty claims

maybe if this one lasts 3 years then i actually have to get a replacement

[random loom]

is logitech warranty that "good"

[robust siren]

i dont have to send my mouse in, its 3 years from the day you get your product

granted it took like a week and a half and i had to call them 3 times

(i never got shipping info or confirmation it was being sent out, i just saw a box at my door)

[random loom]

oh wow

[robust siren]

with the replacement, you ONLY get the mouse and dongle, while being in a generic carboard box

[ionic breach]

unironicaly

thats above average

[robust siren]

you dont get a new cable or the special dongle holder

[random loom]

oh

[ionic breach]

i only use dongle and mouse so im good

[robust siren]

unless im tripping

im not sure where i got the one with the gray feet

wait nvm

[limber veldt]

Hey guys, I apologize for my very ignorant question as I know nothing about keyboards.

I purchased (and have been using <3) my wooting 60he for a few years now, and I came accross a keycap set that I love but I'm not sure how to check for compatibility. Can anyone help me?

It appears the only information about the keycap set is that the size is "OS" and googling keycap set compatibility for wooting 60he didn't bring any relevant information

https://store.teamliquid.eu/products/tlxbl24-000009-pur-purple-xalatath-keycap-set
Thank you if you can help me 🙏

[safe stag]

Jades max are here

[robust siren]

im not sure how i got one that looks like this with the orginal superlight i had

[ionic breach]

any mx compatible keycaps

just look out for it in the description

its like 99% of keycaps

[limber veldt]

So on the link that I sent it has no info except "OS" (but thats size, not compatibility?)

[ionic breach]

the superlight gives you both

[limber veldt]

oh my god nevermind

maybe clicking the "details" section helps

[ionic breach]

[robust siren]

ah i see, i didnt get one for the new one 😭

[limber veldt]

I'm blind. Thank you so much for the help @ionic breach

[robust siren]

the bottom row will have some gaps (right side of the spacebar)

[limber veldt]

Anything after spacebar?

Any idea how wide the gaps will be?

[robust siren]

take like any alpha keycaps you have and swap them out

and thatll give you a general idea of the gap

[robust siren]

oh

[ionic breach]

idk why they put that as photo 1

[robust siren]

nevermind then

[ionic breach]

kinda stupid

[limber veldt]

So I take it the gap issue won't happen if I use some of the keycaps featured in photo 2

[robust siren]

you should be good with this set then 👍

[ionic breach]

all you need

[limber veldt]

Thank you so much guys, I feel like I'm getting ripped off at 70€ no shipping for a keycap set but my keyboard deserves that love

[robust siren]

paid 89 no shipping for mine 😂

[ionic breach]

its the e sports tax

[robust siren]

i got some pretty oily hands so PBT is a worthwhile investment and i wanted a certain color combo

[limber veldt]

just as a last note - i'm using a 60% azerty layout but I suppose I can mix & match (to some extent) the keycaps ? For example my enter key is the wider(bigger) format - not the thin one featured in picture 1

[ionic breach]

if so

i heavily recommend you not buying this

[robust siren]

youre never looking at the keyboard at an oiptical angle for the art to properly display

[ionic breach]

each keycaps has a legend

[robust siren]

oh, side print legends

[ionic breach]

its in qwerty

if you swap them, the image is fked

[limber veldt]

I mean to be fair - i don't really care about the letters on the keycaps (I don't look for keys while typing)

Again i'm very ignorant about keyboards - but having a azerty or qwerty layout only changes what's written on the caps right? It doesn't change how the keyboard functions at all and I can just have any layout on windows

So like - my wooting is the same as a qwerty wooting - I just so happen to have azerty keycaps instead of qwerty

Or am I wrong here

[robust siren]

no it wont effect the keyboard othjer than looks

[limber veldt]

I'm really not a fan of that ahah wish they weren't here

[austere creek]

you can use that enter key will just mean the image isnt nice

[ionic breach]

ya

its like half her face

[limber veldt]

Yeah i'll think about it. To me the face wasn't the main appeal, mostly all the other left side keys & spacebar featured in the other images I thought looked really appealing (the pink ones mostly)

I think i'll be okay with the face being cut. But it's up to me to think about it

Thank you again to everyone who gave advice ❤️

[ionic breach]

wait wheres the replacement for the small mouth?

[austere creek]

all those iso keys feel like the got the wrong print

a lot of right sided keys seem to continue the print the left sided shift has

[safe stag]

Q : jades
D: jades max

Factory lubing isn’t good imo

[ionic breach]

damn thats

sad

where is the money going

[robust siren]

maxes are ever so slightly higher pitch(?)

[safe stag]

my regular jades are hand-lubed, but idk why this sound from the jades max

[ionic breach]

ya

even bad factory lube shouldnt be like this

hows the wobble?

[safe stag]

better than normal jades at least

[stray tiger]

Dreadkeys showed a sneakpeak of their GMK Cosmos collab

[safe stag]

I'll hand-lube them later, because I don't have the time to do it right now

[safe stag]

btw for 63€ of switches, you have to add 17€ for fast shipping, and 33€ customs duty

[ionic breach]

why not try

its just tape

just follow the stock one

oh fk nvm

im in 80he mode lmao

just holes for the screws

wooting has a guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poF-Z0ajhE&ab_channel=Wooting ya

[robust siren]

you can use scissors or nail clippers

[ionic breach]

https://youtu.be/6poF-Z0ajhE?t=20 here

[regal nest]

my man, does someone really need to tell you to use scissors?

[ionic breach]

just anywhere with a screw

[robust siren]

dont just try poking a hole and hope the screw goes through, it wont

just cut a little around screw holes so it doesnt stick to the tape either

[robust siren]

i should listen to myself more cause i didnt do this

and it was already hell trying to get orings to line up during burger mount

i just gave up on the tape mod

actually yk what

fuck it we ball

attempt 2

yes

i dont think so

just as long as you cover most of the pcb

im not sure

you can listen to the video and check

im doing the mod rn

lol

[tropic urchin]

the key cap rabbit hole intensifies D:

[tawdry tree]

Just ask Akko nicely, they’ll sell them for like $30/70 iirc. Also, they are a recolor of Outemu Pink switches which you can get for $15/70 on AE.

[cedar ivy]

prob a dumb question but most HE switches that worked with the 60he should work for the 80he aswell right?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[ionic breach]

all

[tawdry tree]

I haven’t found any (yet) that work with the 60 but not with the 80, or vise versa.

[calm pulsar]

no wayy that’s great

geon is insane

[ionic breach]

damn the smaller bases didnt sell well?

[calm pulsar]

seems so, maybe not enough for gmk to justify making separate 60 and 65 sets

[ionic breach]

poor marketing i feel

[shadow fern]

I’ll test them this evening

[harsh dove]

PC Stem

Instead of POM

[stray tiger]

If they work with the 60 they will work with the 80

[robust siren]

3 layers
before (left), after (right)

it cleans up some of the return sound, or thats how i hear it

[regal nest]

they do be looking crisp though

[chilly mural]

Sounds a bit more muted, but a lot more focused. Very noice.

[robust siren]

i still have the steel plate on and planning to get fr4 sometime in the future

[chilly mural]

soo many plate, I'll go with whatever sounds like an arcade button

[robust siren]

lol

[robust siren]

carbon fiber is pretty loud and obnoxious

[chilly mural]

I need something that sound crisp, while not hollow on the inside. The switches I'll go with Geon Raw since the sound profile is really close to what I want on the 2u and above. Not really sure with keycap yet, for now I'll go with a gmk that I like the looks of and if that's not exact, might go with pbt.

All plastic!

[robust siren]

👍

goold luck with your modding adventures

[chilly mural]

Thanks, money's tight though, but I'll manage.

[fluid ravine]

looks sickkkk

lowkey i thought it was open bottom housing for a moment, clear bottom making it trippy

lmfao

[stray tiger]

I'll be testing the aluminum and fr4 plates on a frog mini HE this week. I should be able to compare them to the PC and POM plates I currently have assuming the GEON plates are similar to the 3rd party plates

[harsh dove]

I should retest Alu on the Frog with RAWs

Havent tried Alu with Raws

[stray tiger]

The first frog HE plate I had was aluminum and I ended up selling it I think. I might still have it, will have to look, but I didnt like it at the time with the lekker v1's which were the only HE switch available at the time.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have a Frog Alu plate from Tom (Hype) but I haven’t tested it since the Jades or Lavenders I think

[fluid ravine]

i have a good feeling about this one

[stray tiger]

If the geon plates will fit the wooting PCB, I'll do an A/B of the 2 side by side betwen alum and fr4, both with RAW's

[harsh dove]

Will def be curious about how both those sound

I filled the 80HE with polyfill and it sounds pretty nice, still need to do some fine tuning before a sound test I think tho

[fluid ravine]

i love clouds!

[tropic urchin]

What brightness do you have the RGB at in these pics

[stray tiger]

zinc or pcr?

[harsh dove]

Zinc

[tropic urchin]

I'll be waiting with bated breath

[robust siren]

Its at 100% but i can give you the rgb value later, not at my pc rn

[tropic urchin]

Word, it was super bright and looks it negate any cons to not having back lit caps. I'm thinking of running a blue for my lazurite caps

the RGB intensity is nothing like I've seen for any of my other boards

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove Ill also be testing out the Geon stabs to see how they do

[harsh dove]

Geon Stabs

Like new ones?

[stray tiger]

It wasn't specified if they are Geon branded, or just a 3rd party stab

[harsh dove]

Ah okay okay

[knotty iron]

Thockfather, Cam, I have a question if you can answer it for me

Between the Jade Pro and Jade Max, do those have the same spring rebound property and are both easier to remove from the switch plate than the OG Magnetic Jade switch?

Thanks guys feel free to ping me or reply to me

[devout torrent]

springs should be pretty much same max are just gold plated

removal from plate I don't imagine they'd really be any different

[tropic urchin]

the Max is dual railed and both the Max and Pros were designed for easier removal than the original Jades

[harsh dove]

Springs should be the same besides gold plated difference like Shark said and the Pros/Max are slightly easier to remove as the clip was made slightly larger which gives better leverage

The Max does have a PC stem instead of POM

[knotty iron]

thats good to know, i got some jade maxes because i was thinking of making a transparent build

also because i like the og jades but these should feel better to use for rebound and for a slightly heavier spring too with the shorter 3.5mm distance

[limpid shore]

Guys i have dielectric Grease should i use it with my 80 He and if yes how?

[knotty iron]

ill keep you guys posted, also if you can send me some helvetica top right black on transparent keycaps that would be really awesome 👀

[stray tiger]

Ok be honest, how many of you are picking up GMK Darling r2?

[knotty iron]

lemme check those out

[shadow fern]

XHT BIS

[knotty iron]

ok I see why people are so divided by GMK haha

[limpid shore]

naah just upgraded from a 50 € Keyboard to the 80 He that is already a huge jump to me

[knotty iron]

but damn i will admit they look nice :)

im good tho

[harsh dove]

I don’t got a board for that

[limpid shore]

guys should i use dielectric grease with the 80 He or would´t it make a big difference ?

[stray tiger]

You got a white board!

[harsh dove]

Ah true

That could work

[limpid shore]

or should i opt for painters tape

[harsh dove]

I use DE on my stabs

[limpid shore]

i think i can use the tutorials for the 60 He´s also for the 80 HE?

[stray tiger]

I am a huge advocate for hand lubing your stabilizers

[stray tiger]

Yes same process. You can also watch this #🪛│modding_faq message

[limpid shore]

Im tottaly new to the modding and wooting community but I´ve heard modded keyboards and wanted to see what is easily done and doable

[shadow fern]

I’ve heard YouTube has a ton of videos

[stray tiger]

Check the FAQ and then ask anything that you're unsure. Prepare your wallet and your schedule depending on how deep down the hole you go

[harsh dove]

Recommend to go in feet first

[stray tiger]

Which is unfortunately the cause of a ton of misinformation. Wish you could vote to scrub bad videos lol

[limpid shore]

I´ve already got Dielectrig grease and can easily get Painterstape but what i see online with Kryotox205g0 and Burgermount and what not it sounds expensive

[stray tiger]

You can get a lube kit from wooting that's a solid value if youre only planning to do 1-2 boards

[ionic breach]

you dont have to burgermount a 80he

[harsh dove]

You can’t burger Mount 80HE

[limpid shore]

good to know

[harsh dove]

It’s not a tray mount

[limpid shore]

Already learned something new

[robust siren]

RGB: 133,0,0

[stray tiger]

I need to update the FAQ and include 80HE specific notes / sections

[harsh dove]

Yeah that would be a good idea now that people are getting their boards

[fluid ravine]

Oo add some Wooting's 80HE tutorials while you're at it!

[stray tiger]

Ive been playing around with the co-pilot integration into MS office for a few weeks. let me see what it would create if I asked it to make a guide. Stand by

[fluid ravine]

Standing by

[stray tiger]

Ugh it already failed

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

[ionic breach]

[stray tiger]

But it made a 14 page presentation in 9 seconds...

[harsh dove]

Impressive

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Faster than me

[fluid ravine]

[stray tiger]

The art isnt great either haha

[harsh dove]

[ionic breach]

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Is that a piano..?

[stray tiger]

...

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[ionic breach]

it is lmao

[stray tiger]

So close yet so far

[harsh dove]

We’ll get there

[fluid ravine]

[limpid shore]

Is there a huge difference from Molykote Em-50L stabilizer wire grease and just normal dielectric grease?

[ionic breach]

well it is a keyboard

[harsh dove]

Technically speaking

Yes

[fluid ravine]

[stray tiger]

Yes, there is a pretty big difference. Molykote is thicker, harder to remove and work with, but will last longer. Its also 10x more expensive

[harsh dove]

Iirc grease can be a little thicker

[limpid shore]

what would yo guys reccomend for me?

[harsh dove]

I haven’t used moly in a while, listen to ThockFather lol

But I just use Dielectric

[stray tiger]

1 tube should last you forever. Ive purchased 2 in like 8 years

[limpid shore]

I have these lying around should i still purchase the super Lube or will mine be fine?

sorry if im asking too many questions

[stray tiger]

Great question. I can not answer that as I do not know the quality or condition of that grease. The super lube is great quality, not the best, but near the top.

[limpid shore]

if I would estimate it its around low to mid quality more on the low side

[stray tiger]

Since you just need a little spend $5 and get some of the best stuff

[limpid shore]

sadly its just a loading white picture for me

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-81150-Dielectric-Tune-Up-Grease/dp/B000AL2RI2/ref=sr_1_3

$5 is worth the $ to not have to relube in a year because the grease broke down super fast

[limpid shore]

Idk if its out there but maybe u guys could do a Tierliest for 80 HE mods with the price and performance

[stray tiger]

because modding is 100% subjective/preference based, there isn't really a way to classify it by tier. Some mods are super cheap (like lubing) that make a large improvement to some people, but other like tap mod may make almost no improvement but only take 10min to test

[limpid shore]

You can say when im asking too many question that are eating ur timer

[stray tiger]

Nope youre good. Great suggestion though. Maybe we can organize the current mod list a bit better

[limpid shore]

yeah

Im just feeling like a little kid that is asking a question every 30 seconds

[stray tiger]

At least youre asking questions that arent already answered in the FAQ 🙂

[elfin garnet]

looking forward to this

[knotty iron]

its up to you

[limpid shore]

Kryotox205g0 is a switch lube right? is that needed for the lekker ones or should i just get stabilizers wire grease? because if yes i might buy the lube kit from wooting with krytox and molykote

but i do already own some random Dielectric grease and can get krytox for 10 bucks

[robust siren]

afasik 205g0 is for the stabilizer housing and stems

grease is for the wires

i think that some people do use it for switches though

[high nymph]

krytox 205g0 for switches and stab housings, Krytox GPL 105 for springs (bag lubbing) and Molykote EM-50L for stab wires

[stray tiger]

Delivery is tomorrow so I should at least be able to confirm right away if the VenomHE plates will fit on the Wooting PCB's

[stray tiger]

205g is most commonly used for switch and stabilizer housings. It can also be used lightly on the ends of switch springs and on on stabilizer wires if the tolerances are good. 105g is typically used for switch springs and dielectric grease or molykote is used on stabilizer wires.

[harsh dove]

I guess if anything we could make a price tier list lol, like cheap to expensive mods

[stray tiger]

Thats true

[limpid shore]

So would u guys reccomend me just buying 205g0 and use my own dielectrig grease or the bundle with molykote?

[high nymph]

if you can, bundle

[random loom]

how ;-;

[robust siren]

i can hear a difference @40% windows volume

oh wait

youre talking about yours

mb lol

but yeah tape mod isnt going to do anything major if youre not really listening for it

and have a side-by-side comparison

[uneven cradle]

Also need to put a test in

[robust siren]

its scotch blue 3m painters tape

sure

[vague stag]

are keycron caps any good?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m swapping mine currently

[shadow fern]

@vague stag No

[vague stag]

what do you recommend (besides GMK) ... they are quite expensive and hard to find with Nordic

[shadow fern]

Their KSA keycaps are mid

[exotic inlet]

This is for switches too?

[shadow fern]

PBTfans, ePBT, JTK, etc

[tropic urchin]

have you tried the new switches yet BMA

[stone flax]

dyesubbers would prolly make nordic sets

[shadow fern]

Recommend going with icon modifiers and not text for PBTfans

[stone flax]

so stuff like 21kb/xmi

[shadow fern]

@tropic urchin No, at work, will test them sometime later tonight

[tropic urchin]

Praise Gateron and all who touches him

[shadow fern]

That DS PBT will give you that tH0o0o0oo0(((CCKKKK too

shoot me

[robust siren]

[shadow fern]

JTK makes really good keycaps though, majority of their sets come in their nice trays too.

Nothing hits like a good quality set of DS PBT tho imo.

[stray tiger]

That grease is just for stabilizer wires, not switches

[vague stag]

sorry if this is a stupid question, but what do you mean?

[exotic inlet]

Do you think Geon Raw HE switches needs to be lubed? Or are they good as they come

[stray tiger]

Good enough will be up to you to decide. A lot of people love how they sound when they arrive.

[exotic inlet]

I mean, I have them right now in here but cannot tell if they would be better with more lube

[stray tiger]

Do you like how they sound? If so, then you are golden!

[exotic inlet]

not installed just in the box yet, but waiting for my 80he to be installed

[stray tiger]

Ahh then def wait until you install them

[vague stag]

When I receive mine, I will lube three switches and put them side by side with stock

[shadow fern]

@vague stag Text vs Icon

[exotic inlet]

I tried it in hand with a keycap and sound pretty good tbh

[vague stag]

just preference or sound diff?

[stray tiger]

Thats great! Most of my raw's are just factory lubed as well.

[shadow fern]

PBTfans has ugly text for their modifier keycaps

[exotic inlet]

Nice, so then should I buy super lube for the stabs?

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt buy anything until you get the board and see what you think. However things like lube are a pretty safe purchase as even if you like how they sound on day 1, a lube touch-up / refresh is cheap and easy

[robust siren]

i love my pbtfan corsshairs

[exotic inlet]

Ok thanks! Then I think I will buy some of that superlube to have it in here before my 80HE arrives, just in case

[vague stag]

They look nice, personally I want to go with something brighter. Currently have white DS PBT caps from Wooting

like how they look, but am not a big fan of how they sound - would the PBT caps change the feel and sound? (have a PC plate and lubed L v1 Switches and stasbs atm, ordering the geon raw)

[robust siren]

i believe it mostly depends on how thick the keycaps are

[shadow fern]

Too many variables. Something you'd have to test and find out for yourself.

[vague stag]

hahah, got it!

[robust siren]

i swapped everything at once when i was building so i dont have a straight comparison

[robust siren]

of course, keycap design is subjective and 100% based off preferences

[robust siren]

i didnt get led indicators because the 60he+ has north facing leds and i just thought it wouldnt look good

[vague stag]

anyone tried ePBT?

thoguht these looked dope https://www.maxgaming.se/sv/keycaps/epbt-black-orange-ansi

[stray tiger]

ePBT is solid

[shadow fern]

[stray tiger]

KKB is also a very good choice

[shadow fern]

PBTFans (Icon only), ePBT, JTK, KKB, 21KB, Keykobo, yada yada

@vague stag that set is amazing. Super good, get that one.

[stone flax]

pbt runs deeper at the same thickness and profile and can also become much thicker than abs youd find (talking 1.7-1.9mm)

[stray tiger]

Have you ever used 1.9mm thick keycaps?

[stone flax]

i used 1.8

[shadow fern]

chonk

[stray tiger]

Did you have clearance issues with 1.8? The thickest Ive been able to use was 1.7

Thats obviously board dependant, the corners tend to bind first

[stone flax]

i personally didnt

[stray tiger]

I wonder at what thickness you start getting switch inference on north facing switches.

[harsh dove]

I've yet to come across a PBT set that I run daily, just like the feel and sound of ABS too much

[stray tiger]

I dont even own a set over 1.6mm any longer due to issues/potential issues

[stone flax]

i love thick pbt in some builds

[stray tiger]

Yeah depends on my mood / desire for that day

[pulsar schooner]

All my sets I have currently PBT, my fingers texture / skin chemistry absolutely wrecks Abs in no time flat

[cold bloom]

I built my second pcb for my salvation today, used 2 durock v3 stabs on the enter and shift, and a sw knight stab on the spacebar. The durocks are really nice too, didn’t even need to tune them at all

I was surprisingly happy with them

The way the wire snaps into the v3s is kinda different and I think it seems to work well to reduce any rattle

[tawdry tree]

Contact 👽

[random loom]

like am a famous person or sth ;-;

[random loom]

link for the recolour?

[tawdry tree]

bro, u don’t need to be famous to contact a company

[random loom]

and i doubt they will respond man

[tawdry tree]

An FYI, again, they’re a waste of money. There’s much better out there. https://a.aliexpress.com/_EzSzCLn

[tawdry tree]

brother, it’s their customer support

[random loom]

RIGHT...

[tawdry tree]

“Hey Akko, I would like to buy a few of your cream yellow magnetic switches, I would appreciate it if you can make an exception, thanks!”

[stray tiger]

Being nice and asking goes a long way. I have some of the yellows and did not buy the board.

[tawdry tree]

They’re not gonna bite

[stray tiger]

He is also right, there are better switches out there.

[tawdry tree]

He could be collecting, Akko Cream Yellows are quite specific otherwise.

It’s not like they sound crazy in Akko’s boards either. 😄

[stray tiger]

The lack of legs is a really bad design decision. I get why they did it, but whatever

[vague stag]

the one I linked earlier?

[pulsar schooner]

@tawdry tree if only Akko could come up with a way to get some HE switches sounding like rosewoods 🤌🏻

[tawdry tree]

if Akko doesn’t change manufacturer, I don’t see that happening. Yiqian’s strong suit definitely isn’t sound. 😂

At least not for their magnetic switches.

[random loom]

I DID IT HOLY

now time to wait..

[tawdry tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/994084114930081842/1064258153522417664/plink.gif

[stray tiger]

You could buy the recolored ones as he suggested unless you just really want yellow

[random loom]

ye true

[tawdry tree]

Sir Deathreaper, why do you want the Cream Yellows?

What’s your motive?

[random loom]

I feel interrogated ;-;

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

Not an interrogation, just curious.

[random loom]

just collection since they feel kinda rare to get + wanted to try them out

[tawdry tree]

Ah, makes sense.

[stray tiger]

He might have an all yellow build

[tawdry tree]

“rare” is kinda crazy tho ngl

[low fiber]

Can i use JRX 205 G0 lube to put on the stabilizers, this is the same stuff i used for lubing my switches. Or do i need grease for the stabilizers? I saw wooting made a video where they used lube for switches and grease for the stabilizers so was wondering if you only can use grease or that this lube is also fine...

[random loom]

I mean you do have to buy an akko keyboard just to get the switches if you want to get from official website

• I SEARCHED 4 DAYS FOR IT

[stray tiger]

Depends on the stabilizers but grease is the most common. You can use 205g as well but it's not the most common

[random loom]

what was the other lube called again that wooting sells?

[tawdry tree]

not to flex but look at these ultra rare switches

Has no one made edible switches yet?

Like a candy

Non functional but edible

😋

[random loom]

NAH

and he had to put the one switch there

[robust siren]

💀

[tawdry tree]

😂😂 the left one is Akko’s Sakura Pink and the right one, well you know.

[random loom]

😭😭

[polar girder]

I did this for GAMAKAY switches

But ended up sending it back

Wasn’t worth

[random loom]

Fairs

Wait how does it sound

[random loom]

Question did you try the cream yellow with wooting

Cuz they don’t have the two stems in the bottom housing

And does it work

[tawdry ore]

are tehere switches like this compatiable with wooting?

[rotund crow]

Whats ur guys fav mag switches?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah they’re fine, all Yiqian’s switches are. Apart from Glorious’ magnetic switches, all Yiqian’s switches are confirmed to work.

[harsh dove]

Damn, just finished RAWs with Alu.. this thang is noice

[tawdry tree]

Not really an issue, the flex is very minimal as is and it doesn’t affect accuracy.

Well it does but only on release which isn’t problematic.

[tawdry tree]

How do you mean?

[random loom]

Hm ok

[tawdry ore]

The outter shell on the top part of the switch to hold the keycap stem

[tawdry tree]

Oh, box stems you mean. Yes there are many other switches like it. The Black Knights for example.

and it doesn’t hold the keycap stem but it’s for minimizing bottom-out wobble and “dust proofing”.

the dust proofing claim is bs but that’s what most manufacturers advertise box stems as.

[harsh dove]

The pain when you go to record sumn and you're not recording....

[stray tiger]

The magnetic pinks only register up to 2.6mm. No compensation at all.

I did recheck on the 80HE and same results

[tawdry tree]

Let me check my notes

[stray tiger]

The beige / pinks work fine though

[tawdry tree]

Checks out

I forgot they used different magnet strengths, thanks for the reminder.

[harsh dove]

Raw HE x Alu Plate

No Foams/Silicones

[stray tiger]

All tadpoles? Any force break?

[harsh dove]

Yeah all 60a tadpoles and force break

might try some other tadpole configs

[tawdry tree]

I don’t like metal plates.

[stray tiger]

I have them all now I think. I was missing 50's and got them last week

[tawdry tree]

Visually they can look sick but sound wise 😬

[calm pulsar]

maybe on HE they resonate with the big ass springs more

[tawdry tree]

that’s what it sounds like

[calm pulsar]

I got a black alu for my venom60he pcb, thoough there was an option for fr4 as well

oh well

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
POM Plate for comparison

[uneven cradle]

Damn, might have to try it out now 👀

I'll try it on PP first

[tawdry tree]

just listened to that

[harsh dove]

that has silicone sandwich pad as well

Alu I put nothing

[tawdry tree]

Interesting

could be because of that as well

[calm pulsar]

alu needs the poron I'd say

[tawdry tree]

do you hear more resonance irl?

[harsh dove]

Nah it doesn't seem like it tbh, I don't hear any ping even if I smash the keys hard

It just louder and clackier obvs

[random loom]

Wait someone explain

[tawdry tree]

hmm, I wonder what it is. It sounds less clean, not just louder to me

[harsh dove]

Yea it does sound less clean

[tawdry tree]

could be schizo ofc

[harsh dove]

I can agree with that

[calm pulsar]

btw Cam, have you ever noticed your cable connector hitting against the case when the pcb-plate assembly moves up and down?

like if you do the mod key test on the left side but with the cable plugged in

[tawdry tree]

Outemu Pink switches have weaker magnets so they’re not optimally compatible with Wooting’s boards.

[random loom]

Ohhhhh

[harsh dove]

some cables I've had that issue on some cases, but not with this X-Ray cable on the Frog or the 80HE, I've had that issue on the Salvation mainly

I usually watch out for that cause I hate hearing that part hit the case

[random loom]

How about the Akko cream yellow

what’s the magnetic strength for it

[stray tiger]

Has anyone used these and if so does it tip over when there is a keyboard on just the top? https://osume.com/products/three-tier-keyboard-shelf

[fluid ravine]

Yoink

[calm pulsar]

yeah its so annoying on my kbdfans cable

and even if you fix the sound it will affect how much flex you can get

thinking of getting a thin cable now

[random loom]

Omg I need to get one of these

[harsh dove]

Yeah I used to have to position my cable in a weird way on my Salvation until I got a new one

[stray tiger]

I currently use 3d printed ones. Not as nice but cheaper and do the job. Was just curious as to how well those work with a single board up top.

[tawdry tree]

The same as Outemu’s Pink Beige switches so they’re optimally compatible.

[harsh dove]

It says 4.5kg per tier load bearing

[stray tiger]

But will it tip over with just one at the top?

They do say to put the heaviest board on the bottom, which makes sense. Just not what the top weight limit is

[harsh dove]

Yeah true it doesn't show weight of actual item

[random loom]

How did you even get those notes 💀

[random loom]

How does bro have like 7 keyboards

I only have 3 which all suck

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/web-services-development-testing-functional-gif-27132140

[stray tiger]

It's probably closer to 15+ currently (want to narrow down even more)

[calm pulsar]

current config
raw he, alu plate, 60a tadpoles, no case

[stray tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103459740186595399/1267494266092130346/image.png?ex=66f2d185&is=66f18005&hm=6e248b8628a304de65c66787e7ecb4e792fe08c5495b509d7a6d658572e9cf30&

[harsh dove]

I tried looking for product weight but no dice, I wouldn't trust it personally unless it's like a Bauer Lite 60%

[stray tiger]

Get that thing mounted!

[stray tiger]

That reminds me I still need to build my bauer lite!

[harsh dove]

The IRL one?

[stray tiger]

yes

[harsh dove]

Dude

[calm pulsar]

I was messing with tadpole configs and some work stuff came up so had to plug it in as is 😄

[harsh dove]

and its signed, that ones so fire

[random loom]

Dang am broke

[stray tiger]

It's pretty sweet for sure. Ive got everything I wanted for it, just need to build it. Im waiting until it gets too cold to be outside every weekend and then I will

[random loom]

Wuttttttt

[stray tiger]

he is trolling you

[random loom]

Ye ik

[tawdry tree]

measured most switches

[harsh dove]

you decided on keycaps already?

[tawdry tree]

no tf I’m not! 😂

[stray tiger]

I didnt know you worked for that company! I apologize!

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

[stray tiger]

Yeah, I feel like I have to go with redacted since its an omnitype board, gotta use an omnitype cap

[harsh dove]

Wow lol, that's literally what I had pictured in my head too was Redacted

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[harsh dove]

I couldn't think of another set, that's just the first that came to mind, idk what else I'd put on there

[random loom]

Right ok

[stray tiger]

Well I wanted to use redline on it but I think I'm going to toss that on the 80 raw. But yeah if its not redacted it'll be redline

[fluid ravine]

For the life of me
I'm so bored I'm rebuilding my board

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah I could see that too

[harsh dove]

Welcome to the club

[stray tiger]

Time for a second board!

[harsh dove]

except I'm not bored

[calm pulsar]

new plate?

ah its the cf

[fluid ravine]

I need a second board reeee

[random loom]

What mouse is that

[fluid ravine]

Frik u

Heh

[stray tiger]

Dont forget I know when your birthday is and your parents contact info!

[fluid ravine]

SHHHHH

[fluid ravine]

Hyperx Pulsefire Haste 2 Wireless

[calm pulsar]

the scars on the case from the standoff surgery

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

[random loom]

What’s the fastest one so far 🧐

[fluid ravine]

It kinda helped

[harsh dove]

Bros case has battle scars

[random loom]

They make mouses I never knew 💀

[fluid ravine]

I'll see if I can repaint it

[fluid ravine]

Lmaoo

[stray tiger]

They dont have speed ratings

[calm pulsar]

battle-scarred quality case

[fluid ravine]

The scratch on the front lip was enough

Buttt i went further

[tawdry tree]

The strength of their magnets, which doesn’t have an effect on speed/RT settings.

[random loom]

Ooo really

[fluid ravine]

Guess that's what makes a Thack board ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random loom]

Wait so same performance practically

[calm pulsar]

next, fill the cavity with molten brass

[fluid ravine]

Bettt

[tawdry tree]

Well, technically yes, ever so slightly. 😅

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

Just a difference in compatibility for switches with weaker magnets.

[fluid ravine]

Add some nipple brass on it?

[tawdry tree]

or switches with differently oriented magnets.

[stray tiger]

Any HE switch that operates safely within the HE sensor range, is just as good as any other switch from a performance perspective

[calm pulsar]

loll

[polar girder]

Wired mouse supremacy

[tawdry tree]

batteries only ever weigh you down

[calm pulsar]

dunno I love my sora v2
turns out I needed the back bump

[stray tiger]

I need to replace my viper v2 pro but I dont want to change size and I want to remain wireless. Is the v3 the same size?

[calm pulsar]

do you claw grip?

[fluid ravine]

I like the v3
Noice shape, tried it at micro center 👍

[stray tiger]

My scroll wheel gets jacked up every other week. blowing it out doesnt fix it anymore

[fluid ravine]

I hate my scroll wheel

It has problems with the scroll up and scroll down input

[tawdry tree]

HE scroll wheel when?

[fluid ravine]

Lol

[calm pulsar]

I went from viper v2 pro to ninjutso sora v2 and it's such an upgrade for me in multiple departments, even the click sound lol

[stray tiger]

negative. Im like a fingertip/palm hybrid

Closer to fingertip if I had to classify

[random loom]

Right ok

[calm pulsar]

ah okay, the v3 probably is going to be great for you

[random loom]

How does that work 💀

[tawdry tree]

prob already exists

[random loom]

Anyways am still waiting for the 16000hz gaming chair when is it releasing

[tawdry tree]

💀💀

true 16khz, HE gaming chair

[random loom]

Don’t think so

[tawdry tree]

heated and ventilated

[calm pulsar]

just listened to this message on my oled glass headphones

[stray tiger]

fiber optic cables?

[random loom]

Adjustable reaction time 💀

[random loom]

Wait those actually exist

[calm pulsar]

oh...

[tawdry tree]

https://fbperipherals.com/scroll-wheel-top-panel not a competitive product but seems like it does already exist

[stray tiger]

Anything similar to the v3 pro at a better price point?

[random loom]

But the headphones are like tiny speakers instead on the eyeglass arms

[tawdry tree]

https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/find-similar?p=Razer-Viper-V2-Pro

[random loom]

The fact that it’s actually just the scroll wheel

[jovial grove]

Hm so I tape mod my 60he hmm

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[stray tiger]

And your life has changed?

[calm pulsar]

I am honestly not well versed in mice

I was looking into the lamzu one that had a shape similar to viper v2, but it had mech switches, which was a turnoff for me

so I decided to go for sora v2, it has opticals

[tawdry tree]

If you’re unfamiliar with the site, you can click the similar mice to overlay the shape.

[jovial grove]

yes

[random loom]

Lamzu maya x?

[polar girder]

lol just buy the vv3 pro

And like 2 less artisans this year

Wahhhh

[random loom]

Bro he was asking for alternatives

[polar girder]

Yeah but it’s the best

[calm pulsar]

good point, v3 is a solid one

[polar girder]

And it’s not exorbitantly priced

[random loom]

Agreed

[polar girder]

Like beast X is good but like $10 diff or something

Pulsar solid

[random loom]

I found a loophole to buy it at HK region so I can get like £50 cheaper 💀

[polar girder]

But some QC concerns there

[stray tiger]

Does the v2 dongle work with the v3? if yes, Ill just get it

[random loom]

No

[tawdry tree]

Razer so prob not

😂

[stray tiger]

Of course...

[random loom]

Def not cuz they made a specific dongle so you can switch polling rate

[calm pulsar]

now I remember how good it felt to uninstall razer software and tweak my mouse in a browser

[polar girder]

I just install it, set settings, then uninstall lol

[calm pulsar]

also true

[stray tiger]

I installed it on an old laptop and then save to the mouse and move it over lol

Oh damn, it wasnt included with the v2. That explains the price I guess

[random loom]

Is it just me or when I got my first razer mouse I spent two hours to get a good sensitivity

[tall hollow]

phat dongle

[random loom]

Fr

[calm pulsar]

tazer mouse⚡

[random loom]

Typo

[tall hollow]

I wonder, 1 megahertz polling rate mice when?

[random loom]

Too much monkeytype

[calm pulsar]

tbh I just set 400 dpi and that's it

then only tweak button mapping

[stray tiger]

Yeah I set it to 400 and then adjust in game if needed

[random loom]

When that arrives my headphones will prob have HE capabilities

[random loom]

I set it to 800

Then just turn on every single setting that makes my mouse respond and track faster

[tall hollow]

when you said that I imagined the Sennheiser HE1 for a second.

[sweet oak]

Scared wallet noises

[random loom]

4000 and 1000

[tall hollow]

LMAO, someone knows

1kHz

[random loom]

😂

[random loom]

Isn’t it so expensive (I forgor price)

[tall hollow]

when I asked I was quoted like 70,000 dollars for a complete setup.

[random loom]

Am curious who doesn’t have a mouse with 1k hz polling

[sweet oak]

Yeah isnt the headphones themselves 60,000 usd

[tall hollow]

no those are actually like 40,000 dollars in the price breakdown iirc.

cauz when you buy them you also buy the DAC/AMP

[tropic urchin]

anyone else an IEM enjoyer or just me

[sweet oak]

Oh yeah

[random loom]

They are good but not comfortable

[tall hollow]

I am as well, love my Blessing 3

[tropic urchin]

their comfort depends on what model/ear tips you use I've found

some are like really bad for long sessions

[tall hollow]

yeah, I kinda dont like shoving things in my ear, but a good pair does sound very nice.

[tropic urchin]

I'm using the Xenns Top and have treated me pretty well

[tropic urchin]

fair

[random loom]

Guys question how much do ur headphones/IEMs cost

[tropic urchin]

$500 range

you usually get what you pay for, then comes diminishing returns past like $300-500 range

[sweet oak]

Currently using a 560s on my main setup, got those for near 100 usd flat

[tall hollow]

like 800-2000 dollars excluding dacs and amps.

[tropic urchin]

Im debating if I should get into a Dac/amp

[fluid ravine]

im done

[random loom]

Yep am broke

[fluid ravine]

took me 16 minutes to rebuild my board lmao

[tropic urchin]

with time gets you more things 🙂

[tall hollow]

it do be like that sometimes.

[tall hollow]

or be like me and be a suspiciously rich furry

[fluid ravine]

i want to do something ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[untold wigeon]

@sweet oak check your dm please

[tropic urchin]

r/oddlyspecific

[random loom]

MY HEADPHONES ARE 27 USD MAN

I FEEL BROKE 💀

[tropic urchin]

gotta start somewhere

Bose ruined me early on

[tall hollow]

hey, if they work they work. audio tech has peaked way before any of us were born lmao.

[untold wigeon]

Oof I have 4 sets worth 1300 lol

[random loom]

Ye

[untold wigeon]

I forgot the AirPods 1500

[random loom]

That’s more expensive than my computer

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I tend to go overboard with things

[tropic urchin]

once you get a really nice pair of headphones its real easy to go overboard

[polar girder]

Steal

Love them

[tropic urchin]

you develop a very strict standard

[tall hollow]

my DC AEON 2 open backs costed me like 950 bucks after tax LOL.

[random loom]

I thought most people’s headphones are like 100+

[tropic urchin]

It depends alot on budget

[random loom]

Until I saw you guys saying 500💀

[tropic urchin]

you can definitely get nice pairs for $100-200 range

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I have a few nicer sets but no top tier ones

[calm pulsar]

yeah I got my HD560S thanks to @polar girder and they are such awesome headphones for gaming and listening to music, I can make out instruments so well now, and I can hear that different music is mixed differently

[hardy spear]

tofu redux or alumaze for Wooting 60HE?

[tall hollow]

your choice really, both are pretty solid cases, just comes down to asthetic at this point.

[polar girder]

I’m chilling on 560s until I fully invest in audiophile setup and go 800s lol

[tropic urchin]

Once you get your first really nice pair, then those will become your standard going forward

I wouldn't feel too bad over it

[untold wigeon]

They’re not for my computer but I absolutely adore my Bose nc700 they are wonderful. Just under 400. Noise cancellation on them is top tier

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-choice-is-yours-jigsaw-john-kramer-saw6-it-is-your-decision-gif-21986621

[tropic urchin]

Do you game with them? I have a similar pair that I did alot with R6 and then I swapped to my Xenns Top and they sound so muddy now

[random loom]

I honestly can’t hear the difference between 100 dollar headphones and 800 dollar ones

[random loom]

Prob cuz I use 30 as my volume

[untold wigeon]

No they are just for my iPad basically. I watch videos before bed so I need them so I don’t bother my wife

[tall hollow]

most of the lower tier versions of the top tier headphones are like half the price and have 80% of the sound.

[tropic urchin]

the difference is more of the smaller things in the background that you never would've heard with cheaper stuff

[hardy spear]

okay, awesome! I think I prefer the look of the lavender alumaze over the purple redux so going with that!

[tropic urchin]

Ahh

better use case than me

I used to rock wired bose and then they stopped making them

and mine broke

so I went into the rabbit hole of IEMs

[untold wigeon]

I love my dt990s but everyone here hates them lol

[tropic urchin]

ive noticed everyone loves or hates them

very interesting

[elfin garnet]

I love mine lol

[random loom]

Including me

[tropic urchin]

I've debated getting open back sennheisers but I should prob get a DAC setup first

[calm pulsar]

they are open back right? I’ll just say open back is awesome

[untold wigeon]

I have mine on a fiio dac/amp and they sound great

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[tropic urchin]

I've debated getting the iFi Zen DAC V2/V3 since it looks like a DAC/AMP combo

[untold wigeon]

I use the 990s primarily for gaming.

[polar girder]

Yeah I bought the ifi zen dac/amp v2 off a buddy lightly used for $50

[untold wigeon]

I’ve heard it’s good

[polar girder]

Love it with my 560s

[random loom]

I just use velour ear cushions

[untold wigeon]

I almost bought those

[tropic urchin]

Fresh reviews on YT has it as a budget rec

has some good peripherals for competitive gaming

which is where I found out about the Xenns Top

[untold wigeon]

It’s my favorite part!!! I wish I could get them for my Bose nc700s

[polar girder]

560s/ifi zen DAC/amp is goated budget audiophile/gaming type shit

[calm pulsar]

another good thing about open back is you can hear your keyboard build more often

[tropic urchin]

does the zen have a separate Dac and AMP? I saw on amazon they were pushing an ifi amp and Im super confused about it

[polar girder]

If you’re not like ultra budget IEM user type shit

[random loom]

To me they are like alternatives for open back cuz I can clearly hear my keyboard and my voice

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Dunno if you heard/saw this one yet

[polar girder]

There’s a separate amp that’s not necessary

[untold wigeon]

That’s why I like them

[tropic urchin]

oooh

thanks big

[random loom]

Mhm

[sweet oak]

Responded!

[untold wigeon]

Ty!!!!

[polar girder]

The ifi zen DAC/amp is an amp but just not a powerful one

But plenty for decent budget type headphones

[random loom]

How much was it

[polar girder]

Like 560s is fine just plugged in to computer TBH

[calm pulsar]

yeah I noticed a change to the sound even just by using my audient evo4

[sweet oak]

For me it gets LOUD, i have my windows global volume at 25%

[calm pulsar]

but will be getting a dac some day

[tall hollow]

IFI Idsd Diablo tho

5 watts of power

[polar girder]

Yeah there’s bunch of products out there lol

[random loom]

And where u got it

[untold wigeon]

I have my 990s in a fiio K5pro and it gets louder than I can handle

[polar girder]

Nice

[calm pulsar]

just did this
seems dumb yes but it kinda helped with the height of the pcb and now I don’t hear the cable hitting the case and there’s more room to flex on the left side

[polar girder]

Good combo

[calm pulsar]

@harsh dove

[devout torrent]

FROG

[polar girder]

Yeah my shits perma at like 60% lol

[harsh dove]

Very nice

[random loom]

Guys thoughts on this really bad keyboard (just finished lubing cuz I was bored)

[polar girder]

Man I am not looking forward to opening my frog again

Need knight stabs to make it worthwhile lol

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-meme-gif-7596913242651313594

[calm pulsar]

lol I remember that feeling on my friction mounted tray mount case, but with the frog it's easy to mess around with the config and then screw it in once you're happy with whatever you've done

[tawdry tree]

Don’t think so. Sounds good but there are many variables. How do they sound compared to regular Jades?

Any difference?

[harsh dove]

Mainly just cleaner sound overall

Cleaner Mahjong Jade sound

[ashen karma]

AliExpress, it was like $5

[tawdry tree]

Will try em at some point as well

[random loom]

Link?

[harsh dove]

I would also add that the 20mm Spring is a lot better imo, basically zero spring ping imo even when mashed hard, and feels a bit smoother

[tropic urchin]

Have you tried the Jade Maxes yet?

[stray tiger]

How big is the cable end? Stock cable?

[random loom]

The only thing I hear when playing mahjong is raging 💀

[calm pulsar]

I have Jade Maximilianos crossing the border with China rn

[harsh dove]

Not worth the price though over Raw HE imo

[wooden solar]

Anyone know any key caps to go with my spacebar?

[polar girder]

New spring dropped?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[tawdry tree]

Oh definitely

[calm pulsar]

using this one https://kbdfans.com/products/aviation-plug-custom-mechanical-keyboard-usb-c-cable?_pos=1&_sid=ca60c2cd2&_ss=r

[harsh dove]

The new Jade line has longer 20mm springs in them

[polar girder]

I have those AE dual stage

Not sure how that compares but I like them

[tawdry tree]

They’re longer as well

[harsh dove]

My main issue is just getting springs that don't ping or crunch (even when lubed)

[tawdry tree]

same length as the longer springs iirc

[ashen karma]

Here you go, actually $8
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMclVdi

[calm pulsar]

remember that Geon is making some pingless springs

[harsh dove]

"For MX Switch"

I'll go cry

[calm pulsar]

wait whaaat..... im so dumb

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[calm pulsar]

I thought it was for he

[tawdry tree]

hey if he’s doing it for mx

who knows

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[random loom]

I got welcome deal

Guess how much 💀

[tawdry tree]

0.50

[calm pulsar]

I mean what's funny is I tuned in to the stream when I saw that title and he was messing around with HE switches and was making notes for both MX and HE

so there's hope

[ashen karma]

How much? I think I used a coupon too

[tawdry tree]

yeah definitely

[random loom]

Close

[tawdry tree]

least discounted AE item

[ashen karma]

That’s insane lol , I think it’s for new users only

[tawdry tree]

yeah, one time

[random loom]

Ye

Wait imagine I found a coupon

Ok time to search YouTube

[tawdry tree]

bro wants to get £0.77 down to 0

🥸

[calm pulsar]

lmao true

[random loom]

I brought the cable just now

0.27

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

that’s crazy

[calm pulsar]

they should just pay you along with the cable at this point

[tawdry tree]

nah, that’s temu’s thing

😂😂😂

[random loom]

Fr

[random loom]

If only I found more codes

But I was too lazy

[young lantern]

compatible with raw he?

LOL wtf is that link so big for

[harsh dove]

what in the link