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Need a video comparing jade pros and raws to hear this cleaner sound
Someone overnight me one of their raws so I can test it myself
It was originally waiting to see more Jade Max sound tests since Gateron cant be bothered to, then Geon released theirs comparing the Raw vs Max and it was largely the same which took me off the bandwagon. I was between the Pros and RAW for what I wanted for sound purposes, but obv its not going to be a complete 1:1 with different keyboard mods and what not.
No point rushing to a decision when the keyboard isnt close to being here anyway
i mean u can logically game this out through comparative reasoning, if raws > max, and max > pros, where does that put pros against raws
"RGB look better" how exactly
maxes sounded cleaner compared to jade pros
which audio format is better for discord to upload? so ppl can listen on iphones as well
This is raws?
That being said, I think I will probably end up getting the Raws once it gets closer to November. I did like how the Maxes sounded on other tests, but compared to the Raws they sounded almost the same. So might as well just get the Raws then
I do kinda miss the OG Jade sound, but the light of salvation purges all sin @glacial wind
can't export mp4 in audacity rip
yes
are those stock or lubed
I only swapped the stock springs to geon he springs 62.5g, which I bag lubed
didnt touch the stock lube on housings and stems
noticed how my ninjutso sora v2 sounds way cripser than viper v2 used to sound lol
yeah I think im gonna end up with the Raws
RIP jades
actually fuck gateron, I wont forgive them for reuploading the same sound test after waiting for like 2 weeks
can't trust them with any tests lol
help me with the spacebar lol @stone flax
whats up with it
isnt it kinda hollow? I mean maybe it always is on an alu plate but maybe you can you advise on anything I could do to make it better
what board is it/how mounted
frog mini all tadpoles 60a
try removing spacebar tadpoles
the two on the bottom
might alleviate the sharpness of it
i hate spacebar mounting points
just makes it feel so eh
ic, okay will try it
does anyone have any good key cap websites, looking for some more cool backlit options
have u taken a look at the vendor page
I remember there was a rather large page of it, but I will take another look thanks @stone flax
Anyone here ordered from smkeyboard before?
i asked this last night, people have ordered plates from smkeys and hypekeys š
designer studio plate mounts vs tx ap plate mounts/durock v3 plate mount? and hows their compatibility with 60he?
@elfin garnet wait did you delete the sound test?
Iām using stock module stabs with hypekeyboards plate cuz the tx ap plate mount ones didnāt work FWIW
i knew about your issues so im sticking with the wooting pc plate
which should be fine right
im seeing contradicting statements about if its only screw in/clip in tx ap with issues
idk why i wanna switch mine out honestly just peace of mind that i dont need to change anything else i guess
i know stock stab would be safe but š“
I need someone to try the kbdfans alu plate before I order it lmao
the shipping is more than the plate so I wanna be sure it's good 
nah i was asking cuz i ordered an alu plate from them like almost a month ago
and the lead time was 2-4 weeks
lol I have it but was too lazy to install it cause I was already waiting for the frog when it arrived
I might build it with my 60he non plus in freebird60 and see how it performs
it is very nicely done though, recessed screw holes and the finish is nice
nice, if you do try it out lmk, I'll probably just get it here sometime soon
just waiting on that damn frog mini leggera tbh
need a nice lightweight case
wouldn't aliexpress be cheaper for you? cause I asked them specifically to put it on there so I could order lol
the wait would probably be longer for you, but you're waiting for leggera anyways
Does anyone know how much the optimum x wooting collab case is gonna cost?
wait kbdfans has alu plate?
they released a black alu and semitransparent PC plates not long ago
good call lmao 9$ shipping compared to like 25$
oh wait i see its for redux plate
lol nice
but thats compatible w wooting?
redux plates are compatible yes
yeah its pretty much the same as their "wooting compatible" plates
next time i order something ill grab that fs
yeah I think when I eventually order a frog mini leggera I'll grab it, I just got a bunch of keyboard stuff for my mx builds so gotta chill out lmao
@calm pulsar have u tried the thing with the tadpoles yet?
is the space stabilizer backwards while others face the flat side
i cant seem to put my space one on
i bought the pcb plate
need some help
not yet, working rn
wire side up
they are reversed usually
ya
okk thx i added the silicon and alumaze foam to the 60 he should be night and day difference
Found the controller to get by the way. (Since itās decent value and I donāt mind Wired):
https://www.razer.com/console-controllers/Razer-Wolverine-V3-Tournament-Edition/RZ06-05210100-R3U1
Purchase Razer Wolverine V3 Tournament Edition (console controllers), or browse through our extensive selection of gaming peripherals, and more at razer.com
Since we were talking about it the other day lol
Any plastic/ budget wooting 60 he+ module compatible cases?
If a case is compatible whit GH60 POKER2 FACEU will it be compatible whit the wooting pcb?
How is that decent value, that thing is a hundred bucks
Anyone used these before, how did they perform?
i use similar in all my keyboards. Works great for making spacebar a bit less different vs rest of keys
Helps it be less pingy and hollow sounding?
You will feel abit mushy when press
what? No there's no change to press
And yes it will remove some of thr hollow spind
unless you put too much foam it doesn't block any of the press
I put 1.5mm press down feel different
then you must have had foam that is too big or blocked some of it. It should just fill the empty areas, not actually interfere with any of the actual press
Yeah try cut the foam from those stem it work
Since those have double slide tape on it
But for mine doesn't really make a huge difference
So bros, how do we fix the spacebar in the 80he? lol
What do you mean?
The spacebar is clearly the worst sounding key out of them all, you can hear in basically every review, and while I got lucky and mine is much better than most I've heard around, it still is very tinny compared to the rest of the keyboard
Meant to reply to this comment, sorry
just edit an @ in @viscid cipher
Does it ping if you do it in an edit?
Thatās normal for a space bar to be like that. If you want to alter the sound then you do a space bar mod like foam insert or similar
It sounds like that due to being a large long empty bar, so filling it with things helps
you can cut your own foam or buy it from aliexpress and other keyboard shops
Aight thanks, I will try that
Iām super lazy so I just buy the precut double sided tape ones locally lol
I strongly doubt I have any store that sells keyboard modding stuff locally lol
I'll just aliexpress it up
You can also lube the stabs to remove the noise bit of 205g0, dielectric grease or XHT-BDZ works wonders don't even have to remove the stabilizers most of the time if you have it in a syringe
Could you give us a sound test, I want to see if I should lube my stabs on the space bar once mine comes and want a comparison
Not right now, but maybe tonight I can
space bars arenāt all equal from the factory
Yeah I can tell you mine is a lot better than all the sound tests I heard around
Thanks man
Because itās not a full manual lube but a quicker factory lube youāll get occasional space bars that tick, some that donāt
Just have to relube the stab manually if you get one that isnāt ideal
Thatās why Iām contemplating whether or not I should do that
Personally Iāve always been far happier with the stabs after manually lubing them myself
Thanks for the info though itās my first time getting a really high end keyboard
Need all the advice I can get
Just see how you feel with yours when it comes and if itās not good enough you can do a manual lube
Tbh I've never had a prebuilt keyboard with well lubed stabs
Itās very hit or miss, especially with the space bar
I'd say 3/5 of my stabs were decent stock and my spacebar and right shift were not
hey, im not new at all to custom keyboards, i currently own 5 pretty high end boards but im looking into modding my Wilbatech Salvation with a wooting module and gateron magnetic jade switches. Thought id join this server and see what other mods you guys have cookin up. Such as a gummy oring or plateless mod
But i recommend another company that makes special cutouts for different brands. https://stupidfish.design/collections/spacebar-foams
agreed, personally im into the custom side of keyboards and stabilizers is an area where i will always go out and buy the very best there is, both in terms of stabiliers (Either Aeboards Staebies or TX clip ins), and lubricant. Always Krytox 205g0 for the housings and Krytox XHT-BDZ for the wires
Thatās really pricy for some space bar foams. I think I pay like $1 for mine and even thatās more than aliexpress
Itās not quite as perfectly cut like that fish one but man thatās quite the premium for the cutout
d i e l e c t r i c g r e a s e
What should I add to the wooting module besides the aluminum case (GH60) and new switches(L45v2) to make it sound less clacky and hollow?
Put foam from module u got and try gummy oring
What type of foam, and where to buy gummy orings?
Did you put foam you got with your wooting module?
I havenāt bought it yet Iām planning on buying the wooting pcb and modding it to make it sound better.Should I just use the foam that comes with the module?
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/, ya you can either use the foam from the wooting module, or the one that comes with ur case
Ok thanks, besides using the stock foam and gummy orings is there anything else that would make the keyboard sound less hollow and clacky?
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 you can find popular mods ova here
Ok, thanks, the stock stabilizers donāt need lubing tho?
u can if you want
but its alr factory lubed
Would the Hoole mod make a huge difference?
whats the main cause for a hollow sounding spacebar?
i just swapped my board into a salvation and everything but the spacebar sounds good
it big
big means more space
more space means more hollow
i tried spacebar foam before and i hated the mushy feel when gaming
do i just live with it 
ill wait for my tp ax stabs to come in and ill experiment again
this already feels better to type on compared to regular tray mount
Guys anyone who has tried the jades and geon raw he is the upgrade worth it in your opinion?
I got the jades rn and i see people say geon raw he feels abit better
Geons way worth it
Compared to jades
The wobble is lesser
Im thinking is the upgrade worth it in your opinion? Since i already got the jades
Money wise is it a noticible difference :p
just depends on how much you value tightness of the stem. The raw he are one step up from them for that
very very similar but slightly different
close enough that I think for average person I just say they're all in that jade-ish sounding clacky switch category
I went from Dash to Raw. Very worth it
If you have the OG jades, I think they sound a little different, but the RAWs sound very similar to the new Jade Maxes
Might have to pull out the wallet and get some new switches then 
o-ring mod for the key caps is not recommended for HE switches, right?
Any budget wooting compatible cases?
Tofu60 redux
Unfortunately comes up to 100⬠from kbd fans and 90⬠from ali express if you live in Europe
Maxgaming has it for 75ā¬
if they restocked it
Poseidon 60
what 3rd party plate options are there for the 60he?
i know wooting has a pc plate pack now but shipping either costs more than the plate itself or it'll take a month to ship + prep time
Yeah lol. Iāll resend it. I just think its so loud even though I have the gain on my mic at the lowest. Thereās also a lot of resonance because the micās arm is mounted to the desk. Was considering doing something about it then do a soundtest but meh
It gives a good idea of how it sounds anyway
Cafege kbd
anyone knows where I can buy this (https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-standoff-silicone-cover) in Europe? do not want to buy 1 dollar worth of equipment and then pay for shipping š
Specs: Silicone material Diameter 4.8mm, height 3.5mm, screw hole 2mm, thickness 0.5mm Sold as one package contains 6 covers It is used on the standoff of mostĀ tray mountĀ metal cases.Ā Function:Ā Ā Anti-static, anti-short circuit, noise reduction Compatibility One pack (6 covers): Tofu60, Tofu65, A60, GH60 aluminum case
Scroll down on KBDFans page bottom left is a link to their aliexpress shop
took nearly 3 hours but its finally completed!
very nice
Thank you
"what is the best mod for wooting?"
"what is a Thockfather?"
I'm just a humble shepard on the path to keyboard enlightenment.
naah, youre just luring more people into the keyboard rabbit hole
Man, elaborate please. Getting my hopes up.. š
did burger mount (i fucking hated that cause it wouldnt line up to save my life), geon raw heās, need to get different stabs tho, tx aps wouldnt fit
stuffed some foam in the spacebar
Yeah the time is now lol
lots of custom plates, people here have gotten all sorts of materials/types from vendors aswell as smkkeyboards and hypekeyboards
Frog Mini case
50A Tadpoles
GMK Keycaps
Force break mod
Silicon sandwich pad
No case foam
RAW HE (factory lubed) switches with dual stage springs from AE 48G (bag lubed)
PP plate from HypeKeyboards
SW Knight V1 stabs lubed with G205g0 (both wire and housings)
Order of keys pressed at the end of the test: Backspace, Enter, Right shift, Space bar (ISO Layout)
@calm pulsar
Space bar might need more lube, not sure tho
Gat Max's delivering Tuesday
I'll be rebuilding one of my Frog's this week using an almost exact same configuration but different plate material and stock springs.
Yeah Iāve got to test out my plates. Been waiting for knight stabs that will never come 
Then I'll be rebuilding my second frog the week after if my Geon delivery is here by then, but that will be with a different HE PCB
guys does anyone know if there is any significant difference between cloth duct tape and painters tape for keyboard modding? i m honestly debating whether or not i should use cloth duct tape(its the only one i got rn) lol
Please do not use duct tape!!!!
its low adhesive one
The venom?
I've tried a bunch of random stuff and any form of painters tape always wins imo
Nice
I can't vouch for that so I don't know. It's your money but you can get a roll of painter's tape from anywhere for $5
The new Frogs arenāt out yet right?
i see i see
Korean market only I believe for ordering. Global is expected in a month or two I believe. Let me check my notes.
Edit: no estimated date only that it will be available globally after sufficient engagement with the Korean market
This is what I've used for quite some time purely because you can get different colors. It's ever so slightly more thin than normal painter tape but it's easy to just add more if you need. Being Crepe paper it also lets you easily conform the first layer and additional layers perfectly instead of leaving small gaps / pockets here and there like usual painters tape.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVAV7FI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pro 46 is a rubber based colored crepe paper masking tape used on a wide variety of smooth substrates as a printed or unprinted general purpose tape. Pro 46 can be used for packaging, bundling, binding, holding, splicing, banding, labeling, color coding, decorating and identification. Adhesive sy...
The big changes are so big that it has me and my calipers fooled.
Oh dang. Exciting
i dont know waht to doooooo
You planning to get a new one?
gonna order painters tape
Ahh gotcha. I might sell one of mine in order to free up some dollars for one of the new ones to do a comparison.
Nice. Yeah sounds fair
Itās not marble, just wood with a marble look.
A print
Looks pretty cool
Does it hold up if you put a water cup on it or does it make a ring?
Big differences mean different things to different people but there are only two differences.
- The tiny Wooting logo on the top housing.
- The lube used.
I'm sure it's been sealed lol
Did you check the top housing and bottom housing? And if there's nibs on the stem check to see if those changed at all too.
Never tried tbh, I put my bottle on a thing, I donāt know what theyāre called in english.
V1 vs V2
Nothingās changed.
No, Hejin Yellow/Teal VS Lekker V2s
Your previous statement basically š
Which statement?
Exactly.
the only similarity is the colour statement
Ahh yeah, wish I could clarify that, but the original v2 design I saw changed, which either means it's going into a different future switch or it was scrapped. You'll have to speculate which one it is.
Man, I thought you had them already š
At that time*
Itās a bit sad though, Iād think Woot couldāve improved the tolerance more if they asked or maybe that becomes expensive QC wise but we know Hejin can do it.
Molds and dielines aren't cheap or quick. New ones are probably only used for major changes and not minor upgrades. Just speculation of course.
Of course, Iād think itād be worth it though especially since it seems like the Lekker V2s are here to stay. Itās pretty ironic using the switches that were a clone at first.
From clone to official.
A bit of Looting in every Wooting. š
https://youtu.be/lg_a1_g2nDY?si=sC_G3XKnqj51BI6F go give Scotts video a view. Good info
#keybored HE Keyboard Showdown - Should You Buy a Wooting?
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So the HE keyboard are the most hyped things these days... precision gaming tools, cheat mode, magnetic keyboards... whatever you want to call them, they definitely do provide some advantages in many situations. Out of these ne...
Does anyone know if the wooting 60 he+ module comes whit case dampening foam?
It doesn't
Ok
It does, thereās a thin piece of foam that fits the Alumaze and Redux for example. (@stray tiger)
And thereās a sturdier foam to lay the module on when building.
With āModuleā on it.
The one that goes in between the module and plate or the thicker one?
No, case foam specifically. Not the one that goes between the plate and PCB (Module doesnāt come with that one).
Let me see if I can find a picture of it.
Couldnāt find one. This is the case foam that comes with the Module.
ok i used 1 x m2**6 screw for the usb port standoff. with normal burger mount
and 4 x m2*8 screws for the remaining standoffs. with an additional o-ring on the underside of the pcb
usb port tighten down pretty tight, just enough to line up the port. the other 4 just make sure they are firm and dont wiggle
used 3 layers of tape. i think 5 layers would require a m2*8 for the usb port as well
Ok, thanks does the foam work well or should I buy a different material?
idk why its going italic halfway through.
can confirm get m2x8mm
did u use m2x8 on the usb port? how many layers of tape
i was about to get m2x6mm
even with m2x6mm it was a job and a half getting it to burger mount
no tape
should i just do the full board m2x8?mm?
oh man finally, Scot made a wooting review
Itās a nice piece of foam, itāll work.
yippee
Ok, thanks
just get a whole kit of m2 screws its like 8 bucks
amazon?
amazon or ali express
i used uxcell screws from amazon, 100 for 6$
He will be doing an 80HE review too
thanks!
Tofu compatible?
yes
Awesome
i used it for burger mod
Rn I have the crappy 1 o ring burger mount gonna order these screws and some more o rings and do the proper one
I got a pack of 20 but I lost them all they're so small
i have 2 o rings on each screw
Yeah that's what I'm gonna do
and didnt use the spacebar screw
if youre tape modding you should probably get 8mm
I have a 3 layer is 8mm really necessary?
Is 3 o ring a good idea or is it stupid?
Thanks!
For reference the stock tofu screws are 3-4mm right?
stock are 4mm
And stock wooting screws are 3mm?
oh wait no stock wooting are 4, tofu are 5
roughly estimating, i didnt take it out of the bag to compare sizes between all 3
actually let me check rn
tofu and wooting screws are both 4mm
hey guys, what is the best switch for gaming?

there is no performance difference in switches
its just preference for sound and feel
feel free to make a choice off that
raptor he, Lekker switch Linear45 (L45) V2 or Lekker switch Linear60 (L60) V2
?
the lekker v2s, jade/ jade pros and the geon raw hes are the popular ones rn
between these 3 its just preference
i like a good switch with good fast actuation
really just preference for sound and feel
actuation is adjustable with the wooting
a switch will not change that
the magic of hall effect keyboards
I have it on good authority that a very goodest of switches is the raw he
some say itās too good but I always tell them thereās no such thing
Glory to geon and all that he touches
the gaming performance of a switch is mostly the weight how fast you can click and how fast it bounces back
freebird got delivered while wrap was in the same distribution center as it this morning and never went out for delivery ššš
nice, real clean
havent seen that
atleast anymore
i think that was something dealt with newer batches
geon raw he
probably, but the raw hes are the newer model anyways
true
not necessarily new model tho
its literally just another geon switch
new gen ig
Firmware, even switches with vastly stronger magnets than Lekkers are supported and work perfectly fine.
goat
Wooting should include bigger screw and o rings in the packaging it would be a few bucks and a lot less hassle
thanks g
sounds clean Zmira, nice job
thank you broski
Modern stabs donāt need band aid mod
MINE STILL TICKKKKKKK ARGGGHH
they were fine until literally a few days after lubing
As long as the magnetic strength doesn't exceed the range of the sensor.
I honestly think itās just your switches at this point
I donāt think thereās a switch like that yet, at least none that are in my collection. š
I donāt know how you get ticking with knight v2 stabs. Assuming wires are even remotely balanced and they have a coat of lube Iām not sure how youād still have ticking there
Are you winking because you really do have switches that are too strong? Not sure I'm following.
No, I donāt have any switches like that yet, I donāt know if they exist.
Ik this is off topic but do yall know about IEMs?
new wooting user here, does it come with keyboard foam already inside? i know the switches are prelubed, but i dont wanna take it apart just to figure out theres foam already in it
There is foam already inside
should i tape mod it? or is it just not worth it
i wanna make the keyboard sound the best it can yk
@polar girder won the flail cosmos artisan šš
Hypeeeeee
You could try and see if you like it. It's easy to remove if you end up not liking it. It's all preference so I can't say if its something that is going to make the board sound better to you
PICS let me see
100% skill
i like deeper, thockier boards if that makes sense
oh yeah that one. yeah that's sick. GZ dude
no
no
how
tpu injected + v2 tolerance improvements + grease
how is there ticking
either the wires are completely out of wack or ur missing something
prayed to geon
Tape mod can help in terms of making the board deeper, but I'd say that the type of switches you use are far more important
Also lubing them yourself helps a bit
I won both
Iām hella pumped.
only you can decide if its worth it
sound is preference
Idk this is my first artisan ever bro lol
Buy it lol
Itās a raffle to have the opportunity to buy it
Thereās like 24 hours to enter the raffle to be able to buy it
Although this one was 48hrs
i tried, and when i looked they were already pre lubed, so i just didnt bother with the rest, adding lube to them didnt really change the sound much
But thereās usually not many of them made. And I think itās better than artisans going live and selling out in 3.5 seconds and getting botted and stuff
Now I have to buy cosmos 
low quantity products that have a highish demand can sell in raffle models
imo slightly better than fcfs
but its quite literally a raffle for the opportunity to buy it
@sweet oak potential artisan to match with the mooting strap š®
https://www.keychron.com/collections/artisan-keycaps/products/cute-cows-aluminium-alloy-artisan-keycap
Hell yeah
Im taking out a loan, mooting board will happen
not really, has existed
Absolutely not telling my fiancƩe I just spent 80 dollars on a keycap today
#worthit š
GZ broski
Where do you put the other one if the flail already takes escape lol
Not sure which one I want to use TBH
but I wanted option to use either so have to buy both lol
I lowkey kind of like the single escape better
But the flail so neat
𤣠tell her it was 1 5
which one
Yeah I like that one quite a bit lol
sick
I'm gonna shake my artisan like a goddamn snow globe lol
does anyone know a link or a website for these keycaps since I've seen similar ones that are fake on amazon
Did you get the cosmos one that had the liquid in it?
Yeah thatās crazy
I didnāt even realize that was the case until you won and shared that info lol
https://keysium.com/product/minimalist-japanese-keycaps-set-cherry-blossom-black-white/ probably this
70 bucks 
can always return it ig š
at least it's not this
i mean keysium really is built like a chinese clone reseller
uhhhh
oh look
its the same exact set
for 21 dollars on ali
its exactly a dropshipping site
@safe owl
ye that'd probably be better
one difference though in kitting
the ali one is missing black 6.25u
so if u need that one
the 73 dollar one got me questioning if i shuld actually buy it lol
yeah..
dont fall for dropshipping
all too common
ngl the black spacebar would look better with the set
but
you can always just buy from another kit
with a black spacebar or smth ig
could be a bit off color tho
thank you for the advice ill find myself a good spacebar
tru
im not sure that one extra spacebar is worth +$50

now you can spend that 50 dollars on raws š

@safe owl spend the 50 u saved on raws!! 
glory to Geon and all that he touches
sorry whats raws š
yeah this one:
geon raw he 
yeah thats gonna be fun
Yeah also if I end up preferring PBS over the cosmos I can still use that Esc one
š i just bought the gateron jades like a week ago
aaaaa okie
ur good then
is there significant difference?
raws>jades but jades are still good!
tolerances are nicer which means a cleaner top out/sound profile in general
Might need a particularly wobbly switch for Esc then so you can play with it 
back to lekker v1 
ah i see its too late now unfortunately š
just install the switch without the upper housing for maximum wobble
cant cancel?
i bought my jades with the wooting 80he module
u should still be happy
jades are goodd
it is possible to change the order
in your case it kinda sucks twofold, because new jade pro came out and they are the same price as normal jades
and there's geon raws which are considered the best
so I would try cancelling normal jades and going for jade pros/geon raw he
@safe owl
im not sure how to cancel š
nahh I just woke up in time for my shift lol
but I will do it rn cause things seem quiet at work
oh i think i can contact wooting on the website and remove something from the order
people have emailed them and figured it out with the support team
yeah yeah
I might lmao
snow globe head ahh
what bottom force do you guys recommend for the geon raws
what would you like, its largely preference
but 50g has been the most sought after
atleast here
i dont really know since itll be my first 'real' keyboard
aaaa ic
well 50g would be the closest spring weight to the jades
so if u were alr fine with that then 50g would be the closest thing
okay
@stone flax okay so you mean removing two tadpoles closest to spacebar?
woahh 90 geon raw he switches are only 43 dollars
thereās a shipping fee too, but if youāre in NA might try divinikey
they sell raw he too
the ones below it
all right
the 50g ones are sold out š¢ its okay ill buy them from the geonworks website instead
Yeah that one is sick, I was thinking of getting the xenomorph one but now I'm good lol
are u in na?
yeah
Shipping gonna hurt
try kbdfans
geon shipping to na is like 25-40
meanwhile
shipping from kbdfans
(east coast)
ofmg
Just get the 40g ones and avoid the geon shipping
š
try from kbdfans
okay
key
Kbdfans taxes on shipping too, I'm in California might be different for you
Can always just buy a spring pack and swap
its nowhere near as bad as geon tho
to me
but it might just be cheaper to do divinikey 40/60g and springswap
ehhh slightly better
so u can try that or do divinikey for cheaper shipping+ springswap
totes up to you
also since ur 80he doesnt come until january
you can ofc just wait out a restock
50g were sold out
Spring swap
honestly spring swapping might be too laborious for a first keeb
oo
Literally cheaper for 40g + spring pack and then just buying from geon alone lmao
no ones contesting this
but again
their boards not getting here until four months
a 50g restock is inevitable
on divinikey?
once its restocked will it sell out quick
yeah raws have been restocked like 3 times already
When's the last time they restocked?
What keyboard do you use now?
some membrane one š
i think 3 weeks ago
and they ordered 50g's
Idk I like lighter switches so your choice depends on your preference lol
tbh you could just grab 60s cause it will be close to stock Wooting switches lol
lighter switches don't offer much benefit on HE keyboards anyway
they be outta stock too š¢
@safe owl
oo
question on vendor server abt 50g versions
ahh ic
i mean to be frank none of this spring weight talk is gonna matter because we dont really know ur preference :v
It's less about benefit and more just about wanting to not have to press as hard when it comes to bottom out though no?
50g is just a balance
but you might like 40 or 60 more
hell
maybe be over and under those
35>>
ive used Dielectric grease before, BDZ is easier to work with and more effective, so thats all i use
i think i would like the 50g (more likely) since i dont like it too shallow but also not too deep
not sure tho
poly fil is an option and so is case foam but only if you dont mind losing the sound of the case and just making it foamy, plate foam, tape on the bottom case and force break are all ways to mitigate this issue that i prefer
This is about how hard you press to bottom out the switch
with modern stabs, no, just get a good set of TX stabs or Staebies and lube them
this refers to spring weights and not any phsical distance
I just havent found lekker 60s to be hard to press at all
I think it starts with like 80-100g springs to be noticeably hard
plus this person comes from a membrane keeb which is probably not super light
these are unc stabs
my grandma used staebies
lol
as far as spring weighting, these arent available on HE boards. But my favorite springs are TX 55g XL springs
lol tell me your broke without telling me your broke
long springs exist
??? paying more for stabs is just dumb
im saying these specific springs
why pay 20 when u can buy cherry clip ins for 30 bucks for 300 housing and wires for bulk
like what
whaa
not when your putting together a $600+ board
even then
What if this person is a 3 year old and can feel the difference with their little baby fingers
What then
Arcsyko
skill issue
knight stabs better
yikb better
mid
in fact I do have little baby fingers
š„±
xd
does this mean it doesnt matter on the wooting?
yeah it was a random take
at this at this point your just trolling
purposfully using an inferior product, ok unc
It's personal preference with spring weight, the weight doesn't change anything with the keyboard itself
22 dollars for stabs that are no different from 1 dollar clip ins + had tons of binding issues
the 40g ones only have a few left tho so i think ill just wait for restock for now
tx ap plate mount š argument over
tbf what I did is I ordered 50g raws and all 3 of the geon he spring packs 42.5, 52.5 and 62.5 and then ended up with 62.5g springs, so it's all to your personal preference
how much is the shipping for divinikey to na
not neccisarily, wooting springs work the same way just as far as i know there are far less, if any aftermarket spring options
No I don't like the fact that you prefer that actually
exactly what im saying lol
They're based out of LA so the usual like 6 bucks
skill issue
oo
š
my first keyboard shall be done by February š š
I remember people having issues with TX AP plate mounts xdxd
only skill issue is that you cant even tell the difference
jk it's the plate
bring exacto knife to the plate
I just said fuck the plate and bought a pc plate
Wow that's epic (didn't ask)
my bad bro i cant tell the different of having such tight tolerances non-gmk and cherry spec literally dont work properly
on HE?
Does anyone know a good place to find GMK Lazurite keycap set or is that one of those unobtanium group buy sets

fuck it I'm pissed now lets argue
i use staebies on my Axol
Studios yeti, tx pcb mount clip ins on all other boards
your not using gmk? lol, that explains so much
???
i got two sets in front of me
stop trolling
stop telling people to get stabs that are literally reported for issues here
š
half baked rage bait
keep trying
insert soyjack face
i smell those gmk clones from a mile away
Doesn't say plate mount........... š¤
Oh I'm talking about tx
depends on the case you use, if your using anything with a half way decent pcb it should be fine
so why are you yapping this shit in a WOOTING discord about WOOTING keyboards
strange behavior
LOL

I love tight stabs, can easily tell how dogshit my keycaps are. š¹
good rule of thumb, plate mount stabs are inferior in every way to pcb mount
whys there so little videos about the geon raws š°
wdym, theres 5+
No shit
since im looking into modding my salvation with a wooting module
you do know the 60he non plus which a good deal of people here have is only plate mount
are u genuinely clueless or???
Plate mount fuckin rules
i think im just bad at searching things up
(I wish I had the plus with screw in stabs)
girl but anyways
sorry
Man named Luci
Thanks @geonkr
GEON's first HE switch of RAW brand.
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thats exactly why im not buying it, i never said anything about it just that its inferior which is true, if your board supports pcb mount never use plate mount stabs
I'm trolling I could not care less about any of this shit
well no duh
but that doesnt change the fact this guy can only USE PLATEMOUNTS
lmao
so ur just shitting on him for nothing
I'll kill you
@jade storm
lmao i never said anything to him
ill hide the body

so u just went on this discord to argue that stabilizers that expressly shouldnt be used on the wooting should be used because... theyre better in your opinion?
as i said
keep cooking the half baked rage bait
Fuck pcb mount! (I don't have the option)
lmao god no, your just so obnoxious about it that it pisses me off
thats ironic
fr
fuck plates (you can't use HE without plates)
Sticky Rices entered the chat.
or can you? once i get my module, im thinking about trying to experiment with a plateless mod
i can probably put double sided tape over the pcb and mount the switches onto it that way
The only switches you can do it with are Sticky Rices but they wiggle still.
since theirs allignment pins it should be an issue
well if you fix them in place somehow then yeah
about as fun as plateless hotswap but with the added benefit of mis-actuations
Thatās a shit ton of work
thats what makes it fun
for what benefit exactly though?
seeing waht possible
What makes it worth while
improved typing feel, such as if im gonna do this plateless in my wilbatech salvation, it should gain a significant amount of bounce and flex, and hopefully vibrations
just removed gateron jades from my order
Now my freebird has to sit in its poor box all alone till Monday
Thanks metrorestyling
those are being sold on the wooting site but they look amazing
raws bettah
i plan on getting those since they have a closed bottom design
Fk plate mount (my plate mount plate doesnāt work with plate mount stabs)
Yeah that I understand, do the pros outweigh the cons though? Is it worth while.
reddit and reviews said theyre better so ig imma trust them and u guys since its cheaper anyways
Depends if they have a job or not
mine is sitting there ever since I got the frog
atleast in my experience, once i tried plateless there was no going back, i absolutely love the feel of a good plateless board
fuck all stabs, who needs them anyway (1u only is all u ever need).
I did not know the frog worked with the wooting
needs a custom plate but yeah it does
if u wanted standoff points then you'd need to either dremel/cut them or get a custom plate but it works
could also just try no standoffs
sussy
Well, if youāre serious about trying, Iād get Haimuās Sticky Rices, either the closed or open bottom ones depending what sound profile you like the most. Itās cheaper and easier before trying the double sided tape option.
if your gonna do standoffs, id try to burger mount it to prevent sound inconsistency
I will not be using the frog š
šø
you can't burger mount in the frog anyway
absolutely devastating
burger mount the standoffs
They clip in so you can run them plateless without a hassle.*
ahh fair
I might try this cause yeah there is some inconsistency
btw @stone flax on my alu plate it doesnt seem like any difference at all, when I removed 2 of the tadpoles
maybe it's more noticeable on soft plates
yeah i noticed a big diff on pp plate
how do you guys feel about this (its on aliexpress) is this a scam
yooo raws on aliexpress
yup
63 cents a switch from 48

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is shipping atleast better
hmm
the store seems fine, tons of reviews on a lot of switches
idk about you but im not gonna give the ccp my card info
id order direct from geon but the shipping is ass
you have the worst takes
I won't give the ccp my card info
this is coming from someone who managed to recommend to someone new THE TWO STABS WITH ISSUES FOR A WOOTING
you have the worst takes
probably
damn good thing my 60he has less switches xdd
i dont trust aliexpress with my card details, better safe that with all the money in my bank acount drained and being unable to pay rent let alone eat
are you in the us?
What did you buy
i was just checking the price for geon raw HEs
Use PayPal then
is it strictly necessary to flip the he switches to avoid cherry keycap interference?
not this most he switches
if not all
i love my keyboard. sometimes i be spamming the keys just to listen to it
Is eBay a good place to find older group buy key caps? Currently trying to find GMK Lazurite caps and itās actually cancer finding these online
I think its fine, might try mechmarket subreddit too
I'll try em out thanks
It took 2+ days of hunting but I think I found my perfect keycaps for my white zinc, my wallet isnt happy š
you've probably seen this, but there's gmk striker, another blue set
Lemme see these
mechmarket
aftermarket costs less than retail unless its flipped/scalped, huge demand, etcā¦
ask for timestamps and stuff tho
and do g&s/invoice
Appreciate it ā¤ļø
5 percent for safety is more than worth compared to getting scammed
so true, I got my redacted set second hand, loose in a box but only mounted the spacebar once, for 60$ USD 
Def gonna search for second hand gmk sets before buying new if they aren't group buys from now on
Lazurite Set + RAWs + White zinc is going to be a crazy keyboard
jfc
no greg
sweet lord
and more
grrr wheres greg
next one better have him
yep
yeah that guys probably been in every single group buy with that collection
wow

I love the git base
endgame set
same
Fr
it was between that or dmg for my frog mini
ended up going dmg
but kinda stings
there's an unopened 3.1 set on mechmarket for 110$
kinda tempting
fuckin duties tho
theres the dracula git base too
be the same as buying it here after shipping, duties and taxes
Oooh peaches and cream, blurple, amethyst, and lazurite are so good.
Damn, soo many
The key cap rabbit hole is really massive
Frfr
Shoot. I need that Thai Tea in my life. Need the alt alphas too though.
I've never seen a set thats made me click 'buy' faser than the Lazurites
If I have to become president of the United States to get usps to deliver on sundays then god willing that is what I will do
Yeah lazurite is one of my favorites
Guys help what switches do I get and what stabs
ceramic keycaps
if ur still getting new keycaps
and probably new jades or raw hes
Ye am broke rn so I just brought some dye sub pbt
ye good enough
Which one is cheaper š
raw hes
Ok we need to reiterate something about mods. In a keyboard, mods are use to fix or tune something in a keyboard that you don't like. I would first recommend getting the keyboard first then go on from there.
Now about your list, "creamy and thock" is a sound profile not a mod. New switches is something you need to look into as everyone has a different preference and depending on your budget. Stabilizer shouldnt really need to be changed unless there is REALLY something wrong with the ones you have. Holee mod shouldn't really be needed unless there is a real problem with the rattle in your stabs.
By far the RAWs
Ok
Sounds kinda similar to the Jade Maxes, but a little louder stock
no proper sound tests of maxes are available tho
@ionic breach are u playing overwatch
@safe owl It's not a scam Aliexpress is goated.
oh
please let thock die please let thock die please let thock die please let thock die
huh
Unrelated
Buy them
Damn that seller stocked a shit load of them
2k of each weight
okay
been using this for the last 12 hours and man geon raws are goated
40 grams is just light enough for me spacebar might be a little too heavy since i stuffed foam into it
Aliexpress the buyer always wins. And the buyer always comes first. It's always been that way and they have strict rules. Also the sellers do not get paid until you "Confirm Received" on the item. For every item. @safe owl
okay
fr4 or carbon fiber plate?
youre gonna get it talkin like that buddy

it didnāt really exist for HE in the first place
still dont.... for now.....
dawg no
On it
I am now a massive sw knight stab stan
I used a tiny bit of 205 on the housing/stem and a small bit of dielectric grease, good to go
no touch ups really need at all
Yup
they are very beginner friendly - if I was to recommend stabs to someone who wanted nice stabs without having to do much tuning it would be the knights
I only swapped out my spacebar, I love cherry clip ins but I always find the spacebar a bit tough
it feels like it's not enough lube then bam all of a sudden too much lol
The TypePlus stabs are super nice too
OH TO HAVE PCB MOUNTED STAB COMPATIBILITY

I put it on the spacebar here, all cherry nixies
sometimes you just gotta work with what you have 
@fluid ravine thack! how do you get rid of the scratchy from the switch mod? i tried lube but the scratchy still there
but the sound is so good for me now
Oh man you added lube on the tape and it's still scratchy?
Usually at that point I would just leave it as is and let it break in
yeah the sound so creamy now for me
Switch mod?
thats good
embrace the scratch 
Someone explain plz
but yeah you should just keep using it and let it break in
over time it should smoothen out
and personally depending on the sound profile on the bottom out i like to have some scratch in my switches
they're satisfying
so now i need to wait for the break in then sigh
this mod is recommended for lekker v1 or v1.5, only do this if you're willing to have the time and dont have the money to buy other switches
well it should be worth it lol
Oh thanks lol I havenāt been into keebs in a while
yup yup
ah respect
but the sound turn out to be so good. so worth the time to try it out
sound test?
lol
How do yāall see ur key legends when ur room is dark and you donāt have shine thru keycaps? Iāve been looking for good shine thruās but there arenāt many good options š
desk lights
like a monitor bar light
or just a small light/lamp on your desk can help
I wonder if this amount of ambient lighting would be enough
should be
just learn to touch type, no need for legends
Lighting looks good as hell
I agree touch type, honestly if you just type a lot youāll remember where things are
touch type best
I LOVE NIXIESA
berry berry nice lighting
I usually can, but sometimes I forget the symbols lol
monkeytype
I usually remember my keycaps in terms of like separate sections.
Like QWERTY (layout) thats one section, then UIOP (another), ASD (from WASD), F and J being your index spots, G and H being in between, KL after J, Z cus its in a spot where you dont reach :D, XCVB I have my val keybinds their so thats how i remember it but usually B i remember cus it's right in the middle of the spacebar, NM are bottom right two.
buy blanks use them for a week and youll never need legends again
I use this to know where to put my keycaps individually
In terms of touch typing i use it to practice but otherwise i dont cus i remember where each key is already
Nixie gang till I die
I just tried and get faster wpms and eventually memorized where each key is
yeah just keep practicing
