🔧│keyboard_modding

[stone flax]

No

[modern bane]

oh, okay so only buy the ones wooting sells?

[mellow rock]

@modern bane look up raw he sound clips

[modern bane]

and im guessing its the same for keycaps?

[stone flax]

Gh60 compatibility but largely leans back on traymounts

[pulsar schooner]

45 or 60 depending on the one you choose. The teal ones are 60, yellow are 45

[stone flax]

ofc there are exceptions

[modern bane]

hm on what

[modern bane]

im pretty sure i have the teal

so do yk where i could get the creamy switches?

[mellow rock]

??

[stone flax]

no

[modern bane]

bc i wanna revamp the whole keyboard

[modern bane]

is he a youtuber?

[stone flax]

before engaging further the biggest tip here is honestly just look at modding faq

[mellow rock]

who

[modern bane]

raw

[pulsar schooner]

Depends on your region to suggest a vendor.

[robust siren]

its the name of the switch

[mellow rock]

no no lmao raw he is a switch type

[stone flax]

He = hall effect

[modern bane]

may i ask why

[modern bane]

im in the eu, uk to be exact

[stone flax]

@modern bane https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[modern bane]

OH HAHA

whoopsie

[mellow rock]

look them up for a sound clip and see if they sound creamy to you

[modern bane]

ik how to unscrew it all and replace the switches and what not

[stone flax]

most of the first questions you’re asking here (basic case/switch compatibility) is extensively explored in modding faq

[modern bane]

ohhhh okay im sorry

[stone flax]

after u get the gist done then we become more effective

[modern bane]

just the stuff in the faq is kinda overwhelming haha

[robust siren]

everyone starts somewhere, its fine

a month ago i wouldve been as lost as you

[mellow rock]

you could also go on youtube and look up “modded wooting…” and go off sound and feel from there. afterwards take the parts like and ask around in this chat for other opinions

[stone flax]

me personally reading one cohesive text log is less overwhelming than having 6 people explain something to you

[modern bane]

so to find the switch i want i should look in the faq?

[modern bane]

hmmm okie

[modern bane]

haha it sucks right

[stone flax]

yeah or refer to for an almost updated list for whats relevant, then ask here for additional concerns

[robust siren]

i just stalked this channel and looked at whats popular

[modern bane]

yeh but with this how do i know what is creamy and where to buy them/

[robust siren]

listening to a few videos here and there

[mellow rock]

youtube

[stone flax]

no switch is creamy

im sorry to burst your bubble

[modern bane]

so just search all of the switches up and see what i like and dont like

[modern bane]

oh okay thats fine

[stone flax]

builds can sound “creamy”

[mellow rock]

or ask people for sound clips in here and ask what their build list is

[stone flax]

but a switch is a small part of that

[robust siren]

for vendors you can follow links from here:
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[modern bane]

ty :)

so what makes a keyboard creamy?

[robust siren]

youre the one asking for mods to make it sound like that 😅

[stone flax]

Most often ive found people have equated creamy boards to pe foam/tape mod crushing things towards mids + a thin flexcut pcb that is less solid

But again

creamy to you aint creamy to me

[modern bane]

haha i always thought it was just the switches that greatly changes sounds

[stone flax]

Switches in the same archetype when done correctly have the least impact on sound

[modern bane]

wow ive been wrong for ages lmao

[quiet bay]

naw switches def make a big difference

[stone flax]

again talking archetypes here

[modern bane]

i mean, all i wanna do is change my keycaps, make the kb sound nicer and have a nice case

[robust siren]

oh yeah, do you know if i can just cut a piece of foam (to stick inside my spacebar) from the extra inside the 60HE or the one that comes with the tofu60? im getting a brass plate so i have to rip off the 2nd layer that comes with the 60he

[stone flax]

nylon housing linear rbo to pbt bottom nylon top rbo is not gonna make the difference in sound that something like a plate or foam config would

[wraith widget]

This word should be removed from the modding scene

[stone flax]

or else it devolves to “which switch is creamiest!!!!”

[robust siren]

someone spilled heavy cream on their keyboard

thats how you make it creamy

[modern bane]

haha im sorry

[quiet bay]

ye ofc same materials would sound similar but im sure there are also other factors like the tolerances

[robust siren]

my pc case fans are killing itself, i need to get replacements

[quiet bay]

and for he switches closed and open bottoms sound pretty different

[modern bane]

im sorry but i was aware the wooting already came with case foam no?

also can you just not use signal rgb with a wooting, seems to interfere with wootility

[robust siren]

it does but different foam makes different sound... or well suppress different sounds from my understanding of it

[modern bane]

oh no way thats so cool

[stone flax]

yeah but its nowhere near what people have been inclined to believe, particularly for mx… ofc switches change sound but prescribing buzzwords to things is bad play (wHaT sWitCh iS cReAmY) bro it is plastic where is the cream coming from

[robust siren]

theres also silicone instead of foam

[quiet bay]

wtf

[robust siren]

i dont want to watch this again please

[modern bane]

that must sound weird

[stone flax]

Creamy

[quiet bay]

taking creamy too literally

[robust siren]

i mean its not wrong....

[modern bane]

creamy

sounds so nice man

[modern bane]

wait ill save the headache and search it

okay yt being useless rn

[robust siren]

i dont really like signal rgb caused it fucked so many things up lol

but that was like 3 years ago

[modern bane]

nah the only issue i had was that it and wootility were just throwing hands on my pc bruh i sth

stg*

signal rgb wouldnt work sometimes bc wootility and it was conflicting one another

its just like

stop

lemme get my cool effects

[barren wasp]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BW5L8YG3/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A27SALKTD6PAA0&psc=1 W?

[stone flax]

foam is $0.99 cents in michaels

or any crafts store

[sleek wagon]

My arch nemesis

[vague stag]

which (in your opinion) is the best sounding HE switches? having a hard time deciding myself. Personally, i think alot of the HE switches sound a bit scratchy

[tropic urchin]

I’m more partial to the Jades, a lot love the RAW HE and the new lekkers have their own fan base too

[uneven cradle]

A lot of Raw HE enjoyers in here including myself

[vague stag]

I have heard that the Raw HE does not require lubing, true?

[jade storm]

Raw HE supremacy

(never tried it)

[uneven cradle]

It's very well lubed stock

I still bag lubed the springs though

[vague stag]

but that's ok, lubed the v1 lekkers, took some time (even if I enjoyed the process)

nice to limit the lubing

[vague stag]

interested in testing bag lubing (pretty new to modding) - did you use any special lubricant or Krytox 205G0?

[uneven cradle]

I used Krytox 105 oil

Can't bag lube with 205g0 too thick

[vague stag]

Thanks!

[stone flax]

RAWS RAWS RAWS RAWS RAWS RAWS

RAWS RAWS RAWS RAWS RAWS

why alcohol

always carries the risk of damaging plastics that cant handle it

soap and water do just as fine

[robust siren]

^

[stone flax]

its your life

your keycaps

[untold wigeon]

I love the way Lamzu does the bottom of their mice.

[harsh dove]

Looks like shoe

[untold wigeon]

lol kinda

[harsh dove]

Like those crazy designs on the bottom of sneakers

[untold wigeon]

Agreed

[harsh dove]

Gonna mess with the 80He today, see if I can get it marbly, Sander said I was close lol

[untold wigeon]

Chasing the buzz words huh?

[harsh dove]

Lmao of course bro

Gotta get that Thocky Marbly Creamy Clack sound all in one

[stone flax]

@jade storm

[modern bane]

can i throw any keycaps on the wooting?

[harsh dove]

Any Mx compatible keycaps

[mellow rock]

has anyone tried the dash hall effect switches? they sound amazing on youtube lol

[marsh saffron]

I have them

Assuming you mean the ws dashes

They are jade recolours

[mellow rock]

yes ws dashes

are they better than jades? or is there no difference

[marsh saffron]

Literally just a recolored stem

Same switch

[mellow rock]

and are they good in general? probably my favorite sounding switch for the wooting

[marsh saffron]

Raw HE would be better

Cleaner sound profile + less stem wobble

Also cheaper

[jade storm]

hii

[stone flax]

what are you streaming

or were

[harsh dove]

I just realized the 80HE Zinc case has pre-installed Force Break Mod

Has these tiny strips of foam around the edges

[polar girder]

Oh fk

Pre-modded out the ass

Stacked

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

Except I removed like half of the mods

[polar girder]

Lolz really?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

The Pre installed Tape mod (PET Film) and the Pre installed stabilizer pads

I removed those

[polar girder]

Man so I finally give up and choose to go clear knight stabs and they’re all OOS

[quiet jewel]

I’m thinking about building a wooting keyboard, what switches do yall suggest

[polar girder]

RAW HE if you just want the best

otherwise it’s subjective

[quiet jewel]

I was thinking either magnetic jades or raptors

[harsh dove]

I removed the case foam and put Polyfill as well

[polar girder]

Don’t get raptors

[quiet jewel]

And wooting pcb idk cause website says pre orders

So idk whats up with that

[quiet jewel]

Theyre bad?

[harsh dove]

Depends on the sound you're going for but I can recommend Lekker V2s, Jade Pros, Raw He, and Black Knights

Raw HE currently have the best tolerances

[polar girder]

There’s better options and I think they had some magnet issues in the past

I own them but moved on

[harsh dove]

But if you don't like closed bottom switches then Lekker V2 or Black Knights

[polar girder]

Yeah that

[regal nest]

just watched all the current review videos. is it just me or is anybody else annoyed with the review video from hyppi or whatever

the guy with 1.2m subs

dude cant tell a difference between a mechanical input and a rapid trigger one

but yaps for 20 min how bad the keyboard is

[cedar gate]

Mind streaming it I'm genuinely curious

[polar girder]

lol yeah most people have a blatant disregard for him at best. Straight up disdain at worst.

[robust siren]

he said optical and then showed the 80he lol and then said "this is definately one of them"

[harsh dove]

Yeah I may do a stream at some point

[regal nest]

what broke the straw for me was the point when he said you cant watch my 2hr interview with calder, but only if you join as a member

aight dude

monetize the time another person took to talk to you

def in wootings best interest to paygate that interview

[stone flax]

Get raws

[crisp arrow]

can you take out the silicone dampner and run just the foam one? what sounds the best

[stone flax]

if ur talking about the plate foam

then yes

theyre interchangable between the poron and silicone

as for what sounds the best

thats up to you

[crisp arrow]

gotcha! I will try them and compare, I figured I could run either

[quiet jewel]

I might go for RAW, whats the best place to get them @polar girder

[native crystal]

he is a tiktok/youtube shorts keyboard content creator

not serious content

more about impression farming and money making

no reason to hate his guts, his content is simply not made for us

99.9% of his viewers are people who have some 40 dollar budget board and 80% of his viewers prob dont even own a custom kb

his content can fool non enthusiasts and it sells well

cant blame him for doing it he prob makes decent about of money of it

[robust siren]

it depends where you live

[native crystal]

In asia I would say Geonworks website unless you have a local distributor. Here in EU I got it from Deltakeys.

They restocked a week ago or so

[robust siren]

divinkey if youre US

[cold bloom]

my nixies came in, tried them on the alu plate first cause I had it installed, just swapped the hmx switches out. Gonna try fr4 later tonight probably, but damn this scratch hits different.

I need some HE switches that sound like this LOL

[stone flax]

yummmyyy scratch

omgggg

[stone flax]

i raise muh hybrid mounted monochromes on cf

keebmat needed

tiny switchy wth

cherry scratch is so good

[quiet jewel]

Im thinking either Jades or RAWs now

I would be ordering off of 3 different websites for this build lol

[cedar gate]

RAW for sure

[robust siren]

what else are you getting?

[stone flax]

raws

better tolerances are better tolerances

[quiet jewel]

Tofu 60 redux case, and CKW Fast Blue keycaps from KBDfans

havent ordered anything yet

[robust siren]

you can get the tofu on divinkey

[quiet jewel]

nothing much is set in stone

is shipping the same

[robust siren]

i think switches, and tofu with brass weight are over 100

thats free shipping

[quiet jewel]

BSUN Raw Switches right?

[robust siren]

no

Geon Raw He

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches

[quiet jewel]

Ok yu

ty

40g bottom out is fine right?

[robust siren]

if you can wait a week i suggest 50s

theyre restocking those soon

[quiet jewel]

Im mainly trying to get get this ordered as soon as possible

[robust siren]

ah, it seems like most of the tofu60 anodized are out of stock

[stone flax]

no

theres only one raw switch thats he

and its by geon

the rest of the raw line up are just mx switches done by a plethora of manufacturers

[stone flax]

why these keycaps specifically?

[robust siren]

ah well youre a little out of luck then, im not sure if those other sites offer free shipping over 100

[quiet jewel]

• black tofu 60 is sold out on divinikeys

KDBfans has the 50g in stock @robust siren

[robust siren]

shipping is quite a lot there

[quiet jewel]

hmmm

[robust siren]

but you can also purchase the tofu60 there too

[stone elbow]

try kdbfans' aliexpress store

[quiet jewel]

Yeah

[mighty egret]

who ping

[quiet jewel]

Whats better

[robust siren]

i ordered keycaps on kbdfans ali store

it was 10$ cheaper for shipping

[quiet jewel]

Idk what I should do then

[robust siren]

since you want it asap, kbdfans is probably the best option you have since ali takes ~2 weeks

[cold bloom]

touche

[quiet jewel]

itll takes a month anyway cause of wooting pcb

[stone flax]

we are boob brothers

[robust siren]

im not sure if their ali store stocks geon raws

you can check if you want

[cold bloom]

I'm already brothers with @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Need a board like this jstg

[unkempt island]

hey guys, ive been wanting to increase my keyboard spring weights for some time to have better analog controls

I've never really messed with switch replacements before but how many grams would you guys recommend personally

[stone flax]

[cold bloom]

real

bauer lite with mx1a blacks @stone flax

the keygeek mz y3 switches also came in, I might try the nixies on fr4 later and try the y3s on alu

in the salvation

[cedar gate]

Can you ping me when/if you go live

[idle flint]

Im looking for a thick fat case for the 60he+ I dont see any on the spreadsheet. Does anyone know of any? I want something similar to the Adam kit but not lego lmao

Thicker the better

[quiet bay]

psd60 defender

thicc

salvation case also has some thicc bezels

and if u want a keyboard with a big forehead there's the mason60

[polar girder]

Anyone rocking the HIBI 60?

June R1

What’s that one case that has like the far parts on the ends

That stick out a bit

https://keyboardbelle.com/products/1984-clear-60-keyboard-case-gh60-compatible

Yo that’s pretty wild

[regal nest]

im really looking forward to the custom cases for the 80he

i hope theres gonna be some bangers

[quiet bay]

ye a "custom" looking one would look nice

idk but the sticker on the back of the zinc case makes it look cheap

actually does it have a sticker on the back I forgot

[regal nest]

yeah its just ur typical massproduced product

i dont hate the looks, but its just kinda "ok"

[quiet bay]

ok it does

idk but a design would've been cooler

like an engraving or smth

[marsh saffron]

this would kinda go so hard with xray

[young lantern]

everybodys ordering their plates from smkeyboards/hypekeyboards correct?

[polar girder]

I do yeah

[young lantern]

i know hype is oos rn but for “keyboard case” section the “standard (stock)” option works for redux/fjell or would i need to pick “other -> not on the list” and upload a file

[stray tiger]

Yes and don't get it

[chilly mural]

How durable is gmk keycaps? Can it shatter through repeated fast press due to a game like OSU?

[fluid ravine]

GMK keycaps are very durable, and no it won't shatter lol

Wait

i didnt read that right mb

[chilly mural]

Good to know, what about pbt?

[fluid ravine]

Same thing. Most keycaps are durable depending on where you buy them from I'd say.
Thick ahh PBT keycaps ranging from like 1.5mm or what not are great.

[uneven cradle]

Here's my shine on gmk wob after 1.5 years of use

[cold bloom]

I love the way wob sets look once shined personally

it's like a nice patina

[glacial wind]

If you shatter your keycaps playing osu then the avengers would like to recruit you as their strength hero

[chilly mural]

I like to bottom out hard that's why I'm worried

One of my old kb stab and keycaps died because of it

Albeit those aren't really durable

[glacial wind]

Stab is far likelier to ever break than a keycap, although that’s fairly unlikely too

I don’t know what the strength you’d need to shatter a 1.5mm keycap is but it’d be high

[chilly mural]

Umu thanks

[young lantern]

does anybody have a red ANSI aluminum plate (screw-in) for the 60he+ from hype they are selling?

[mellow rock]

anyone use the magnetic jades? how are they compared to the most popular raw HE? do they perform the same with rapid trigger and wooting features?

[glacial wind]

I have both. Raw he are straight up better

Raw he are tighter stem, similar-ish sound. Both work fine with wooting

[mellow rock]

i know sound is preference as im going off a youtube video and to me the ws dash/magnetic jades sound way better than raw he

do the magnetic jades/ws dash and raw he utilize rapid trigger? sorry im new to all this

[calm pulsar]

if you're getting jades get jade pro, cause they're newer and the same price
all magnetic switches work with all the features

[harsh dove]

Jade Pros

[glacial wind]

They all work with rapid trigger

If you want a clear sound test of jades vs raw he this video is probably the cleanest one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79RcRFiSKm0&pp=ygULR2VvbiByYXcgaGU%3D

He does it back to back with a very clean mic input

[mellow rock]

damn those sound good!

[glacial wind]

Realistically sound difference is fairly minor though with both switches sounding clean but raw he being tighter stem

That’s why most end up going for them over jades

[mellow rock]

what does tighter stem mean?

[harsh dove]

Tighter tolerances

Less wiggle

Cleaner sound overall

[devout torrent]

Less room to wiggle

[harsh dove]

Jade Pros pretty nice although more expensive

[mellow rock]

cool! just gotta make a decision now. also, what stabs do people run?

[harsh dove]

Lately quite a few folks have been running Swagkeys Knights Stabilizers

Stock stabs are fine though as well if you just lube them yourself

[fluid ravine]

not bad, pretty gud

[harsh dove]

Basically cleaner Jades, cleaner Mahjong sound

Less chatter

[mellow rock]

im going for the tofu redux case as everyone does along with a few wooting recommended mods like tape mod etc

[fluid ravine]

dont fw with the price but they sound good

[fluid ravine]

yea

[harsh dove]

Yeah $70 is crazy

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no

[glacial wind]

Max is even crazy at $90 for 90 lol

[mellow rock]

damn wtf. arent the original jades $55

[ionic breach]

jade max do sound slightly thockier that pros

[fluid ravine]

yeah pretty much

[harsh dove]

Can get em for around $40 now

and Raw HE even cheaper

but depends on shipping

[mellow rock]

sheeesh

[fluid ravine]

i swear

[ionic breach]

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[mellow rock]

theres a jade max too?!

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Just a fully clear jade

[ionic breach]

gold plated springs lmao

[harsh dove]

for max RGB

[fluid ravine]

wild

Might as well get the Jade 16 Pro Max while we at it

[mellow rock]

oh so no sound difference compared to the pros?

[fluid ravine]

shi

[glacial wind]

Gateron should have just gone the full way. Stamp a Gucci logo on the bottom and charge $5 a switch

[harsh dove]

Not supposed to be

should be the same or very similar

materials are slightly different

[ionic breach]

in sound test it seems to be just slightly thockier

but not by much

[mellow rock]

so if im willing so suffer the cost jade pros are perfectly fine

[fluid ravine]

At this point CAM, you're like the people that keeps upgrading their iphones after every release lmao

[glacial wind]

Mitch had forsaken the superior raw he

A heretic you could say

[harsh dove]

I just wanted to see how they compare in terms of tolerances lol

[fluid ravine]

lol

[mellow rock]

everyone uses them 😢

i think the jades sound a little smoother imo

[fluid ravine]

it's funny when i think about it

[mellow rock]

im going from a ducky one two mini so i think any change is improvement. shit my wooting hasnt even arrived yet. should be here tomorrow

[glacial wind]

I mean if you don’t care about stem tightness then go nuts. They’re both fine switches

[mellow rock]

will they be tighter than something like a cherry mx red?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[stark osprey]

When Gateron announced all those Jade variants, I lost confidence they would actually produce a switch superior to Geon's. They're absolutely playing the gimmick game to prey on the curiosity of hobbyists.

[ionic breach]

money

[mellow rock]

ngl i thought geon was an abbreviated verson of gateron for a long time

[fluid ravine]

Geon da goat

@glacial wind say it

frigin ritual quote thingy

i forgor

[harsh dove]

Raw He Pros

[ionic breach]

[glacial wind]

I don’t know what you mean. There’s no quote that we say repeatedly

[mellow rock]

who here has the tofu redux case? i have a question

[fluid ravine]

flip >:(

[harsh dove]

A lot of us

[glacial wind]

That was a random Chinese test of the different switches and rating them

[harsh dove]

who got 26 and 25

[ashen karma]

26 says TTC KOM switches (TTC King of Magnetic)

[mellow rock]

i heard in order to do lets say the burger mount mod or tape mod, it requires longer screws. does the tofu redux unclude longer screws to accomodate or do i have to go out and buy some?

[glacial wind]

Yeah it’s based on tightness so it’s ttc and raw he

[harsh dove]

25 is RAWs

nice

[glacial wind]

Glory to geon and all that he touches

[harsh dove]

yeah fr, TTCs are same price as Gats too pretty much

like $70

[glacial wind]

Yeah and ttc magnet is awful range anyway so I don’t think anyone would want them in a wooting

480 vs 800 flux is a big gap

[mellow rock]

you guys are tempting me to get raw he over jade pros lmao. i see someone talk about those in like every chat

[fluid ravine]

There it is!!!

[ashen karma]

jade pros overpriced

[ionic breach]

[fluid ravine]

you said it >:D

[glacial wind]

I mean Jade pros are fine just super expensive when you get the raw he that does basically the same thing for less

[harsh dove]

Where are you based?

[mellow rock]

like location?

[fluid ravine]

like region or wtv

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[mellow rock]

US, jersey to be specific

[harsh dove]

US or?

Okay

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches?variant=41630581981249

[fluid ravine]

Divinikeys

[harsh dove]

They only have 40g left

[mellow rock]

thats the stock wooting weight?

[harsh dove]

could always spring swap tho

[robust siren]

50g getting restocked soon!!!!

[fluid ravine]

stock wooting switches are l60

so 60g

[mellow rock]

oh people go for 50g no?

[harsh dove]

stock is Lekker 60g

[ashen karma]

they restock pretty frequently

[quiet bay]

wooting stock raw hes so that I can use my gift card pretty please with a cherry on top 😔 🙏

[harsh dove]

Preference

[fluid ravine]

realllllllllllllllllll

[mellow rock]

is it a really noticeable difference between the weights?

[glacial wind]

I forgot pochizo has the massive gift card

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[mellow rock]

not sure what my current keyboard has

[glacial wind]

I’m surprised he didn’t spend that on an 80he

[ionic breach]

like 10g difference lmao

[ionic breach]

and what would that be?

[harsh dove]

Likely something similar to 45-60g

[fluid ravine]

I mean she said to let it sink in

[ashen karma]

50 is pretty safe

[fluid ravine]

lol

wtv that means

[quiet bay]

almost did but didnt really like lekker v2s and yes I am letting it marinate 😂

[mellow rock]

ducky one 2 mini

[ionic breach]

one 2? lmao nice name

[glacial wind]

Your current keyboard is like about 60g

Assuming typical cherry switches

[mellow rock]

gotcha. ill go for 50g

correct cherry mx red

[ionic breach]

mx reds are 60s

[mellow rock]

one order comes with 18, how many do i need?

[fluid ravine]

4 quantity iirc

yeah 4

[lucid wyvern]

Does tape mod ruin the rgb?

[fluid ravine]

nope

[quiet bay]

no

[fluid ravine]

it's applied under the pcb

[ionic breach]

its under the pcb

rgb is on top of the pcb

[mellow rock]

is tape mod good for tofu redux?

[glacial wind]

I mean that depends are you in 60 or 80he

[lucid wyvern]

mine on my current keyboard made all the rgb blue because the case is plastic 💔

[fluid ravine]

preference

[mellow rock]

60

[ionic breach]

preference

[mellow rock]

how about brass plate for redux

[glacial wind]

Oh yeah then 4 is plenty

[ionic breach]

its for a tofu build

[fluid ravine]

I would always tell new people to try basic and cheap mods that are undoable and see if they like it or not

[ionic breach]

up to you, its just a weight

[mellow rock]

doesnt affect sound?

[fluid ravine]

i mean the brass weight does help with density and ping

even a block of wood helps

[ionic breach]

yea, but you can add other stuff too in that place

[mellow rock]

gotcha. what about burger mount? will i need extended screws for tofu or does it come with some

[fluid ravine]

@mellow rock

[fluid ravine]

honestly dunno the length of the tofu screws but iirc they're longer than wooting stock screws

[mellow rock]

oh wtf that made a huge difference

[fluid ravine]

and it's best to use 5-6mm in length

[mellow rock]

yea someone told me m2x6mm

[fluid ravine]

yeah tofu screw may be 6mm

i need someone to confirm that for me

[mellow rock]

what about making the space bar and larger keys more solid? they sound loose stock

just lube?

[robust siren]

im getting it saturday

[fluid ravine]

alright

[ionic breach]

and maybe adding stuff under the keycaps

[robust siren]

i also ordered m2x6 from amazon

[fluid ravine]

well depends on how you ask this question

Like is it rattly?

Or do you like want a stronger sounding spacebar

i love strong sounding spacebars, esp MX boards with long poles under the spacebar

[mellow rock]

tbh i dont have my unit yet. itll be here tomorrow but in clips the stock spacebar sounds like it rattles a lot.j just sounds loose

definetely a strong sounding spacebar would be prefered

[robust siren]

stuff some foam in the spacebar

[fluid ravine]

i honestly didnt like adding foamn in my gmk spacebar

but in pbt sure

[robust siren]

tape works too but itll discolor the rgb

[fluid ravine]

i dont fw with the tape idea

it like produce a dead sounding spacebar imo

and it just sounds like dense at the same time

or heavy?

[robust siren]

can’t wait for mods to come in

gonna be even longer for keycaps to arrive cause i ordered it later

[mellow rock]

damn wooting jsut released a video about unboxing gateron jades

well 14 hours ago

[glacial wind]

They have unbox video for everything

Sander recorded a ton of them

[mellow rock]

i found magnetic jade pros for $56 for 70. is that bad? (directly from gateron)

[robust siren]

compared to raws it’s a bit more expensive

[ruby hill]

Seems Geon raw he is a better choice
https://youtu.be/Ju4kxa8C0_c

[mellow rock]

i watched that video a few minutes ago

[idle flint]

Youre a legend thank you!

[inner flicker]

are g skill crystal crowns decent?

[cedar gate]

Not a fan of the colored top housing If I want to run fire rgb it'll get colored

[quiet jewel]

Divinikey doesnt have much keycaps options ngl

idek what keycaps I wanna go for atp

[mortal falcon]

I am typing on the 80he now

its very nice

[honest sapphire]

lucky

[mortal falcon]

so glad i got it xD

[honest sapphire]

still waiting on mine

scared it wont feel as nice as my 60he though

[mortal falcon]

80he feels amazing

unless u modded ur 60

[honest sapphire]

yea i have the tofu redux and jades and after amrket keycaps

[mortal falcon]

cuz this feels way better than the razer huntsman mini

[mortal falcon]

damn

i would wait for people to custom make a case for the 80he

[honest sapphire]

oh for sure i went from a huntsman mini to the wooting and it just felt more premium

[mortal falcon]

imagine titanium 80he case

xD

[mortal falcon]

i just couldnt with the mini its good but this feels better

idk why

[honest sapphire]

i am i wish they had some out already i just got the white zinc

its probably the razer optical switches

they feel super mushy and the spring kinda sucks

[mortal falcon]

it feels super springy i guess

[mortal falcon]

i heard the white scratches

alot

[honest sapphire]

i just heard it scratches and im kinda disappointed but i guess i will have to be extra careful

might spray with a clear coat

[mortal falcon]

ight good luck with that

i got the plastic case cuz i was broke back then xD

still sounds amazing tho

[honest sapphire]

same i took a loan lmao

honestly the plastic kinda sounds better in videos

[mortal falcon]

i dont have that

[honest sapphire]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-blush?srsltid=AfmBOortSwJb4X-fcmjtP8ZnmYr5KE1yEblZuzPymxJc4fspNL0doi1y

[mortal falcon]

but any1 suggest a good keyap set for th black abs

[honest sapphire]

waiting for these with the white zinc

[mortal falcon]

@honest sapphire :>

[honest sapphire]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/strawberry-cake-rabbit-cherry-profile-keycaps-set

i have these on my 60he

light blue tofu redux

with squirtle artisan

[crimson crypt]

do you guys think 30 dollar keycaps are better than stock keycaps

[honest sapphire]

the ones i bought are yea

[crimson crypt]

i just got my wootin and it feels super nice, but i do wanna change the keycaps without losing the premium feeling

some cheap amazong keycaps

[honest sapphire]

i bought mine off of kbdfans and they are nicer than original nut no shine through

[crimson crypt]

i dont really care for rgb. i like minilistic style more

[honest sapphire]

maybe try a pbt keycap set

[crimson crypt]

ill keep that in mind. tysm

[outer finch]

https://youtu.be/Ju4kxa8C0_c?si=wh1Y2BNLuUOHvJd4

Super in depth sound test of the major current HE switches. Great vid

[hollow bear]

home cluster plate wip

can't wait for how it turns out

[hidden falcon]

Hello ! Anyone have a good ISO French reference for colored keycaps (no matter the color) ?
I'm not sure how it works
Can I put cherry on my 80HE? Do I have to stay with OEM?

Thanks

[ionic breach]

any profile work dw

[hidden falcon]

Aaah OK ! Ty ^^

[ionic breach]

just try not to use low profiles

[hidden falcon]

Ok I see ty 🙂

[lilac edge]

What size springs does lekker switches have

[dire delta]

From Geon Website: Coil Diameter: 6.05mm (+-0.02mm)

He sells HE Springs

[lilac edge]

Thanks Im trying to fix a place where I can buy a 200+ gram switch, do you know a place I can find that?

[dire delta]

No sorry😅

200g is crazy

[loud gull]

200+ grams, damn

Buy some pencils 😛

[dire delta]

Big fan of 63 bottom at and 52 actuation

[ionic breach]

yes but i kinda forgot

theres a guy with 1kg springs too

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[reef quiver]

a WHAT

[ionic breach]

i think it was 1.5kg?

somewhere there

[reef quiver]

is mans trying to turn gaming into a workout?

[ionic breach]

[calm pulsar]

yooooo

geon is also trying out jade max rn

wait wtf
@cold bloom check this

am I tripping or this might mean you can use venom60he with centered usb port case

using a daughterboard

[hushed stirrup]

whats the current best plate stabs people recommend these days? i have the og 60he

or just relube stock and call it a day

[calm pulsar]

@stone flax look at this too

[idle flint]

Anyone know if there is a case like this one for the wooting 60? I have the keycaps but cant find anything that looks similar to the case. Would love it if anyone can help!

[calm pulsar]

adaptive stabs from designer studio seem to be good rn

[hushed stirrup]

arent those screw in stabs?

[crimson sky]

yea included db

on the main pcb

[calm pulsar]

iirc they have plate mounts too

they're quite cheap too, try searching on aliexpress

[calm pulsar]

damn geon does the coolest little things on his designs

I noticed today that thic pcb also has cutouts for proper gummy oring mounting

and south facing led for shinethrough capslock

[crimson sky]

yea ofc

the default config for the new frogs is o-ring mount

and a proper one

[calm pulsar]

yea its nice, I ordered one to check out

the pcb I mean, not leggera

[crimson sky]

forgot about a PCB I owned

I could put it in my flash

[calm pulsar]

whats flash

[crimson sky]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118354.0

top mount 60 with a brass bottom

was on sale for cheap

I paid like 250 shipped from the vendor

[calm pulsar]

dang 3.1 kg

pretty cool

[stone flax]

yes

leggera has 2 vers

one gh60 traymount compat

other has center daughterboard and usb port

venom pcb can allow you to use both

i havent looked into it well but either theirs 4pcb types

or it has both a left side port and daughterboard connector

[old swallow]

The polycarbonate Holy60 might work with this, bit of a different look. But would probably fit pretty nicely

[calm pulsar]

for some reason I thought the port will be located similarly to gh60 but in the center lol

[stone flax]

that wouldnt work nice

[calm pulsar]

yeah it has both

[stone flax]

Geon is god

[crimson sky]

would make it more compatible with the 60% boards that I own

[dire delta]

OG 60HE is steel plate platemoount only right? Maybe TX AP platemount?

[calm pulsar]

looks like the venom is compatible with everything 60%

I'm still waiting for someone to solder the wooting usb port to a daugherboard and use it in a centered 60% lol

[crimson sky]

not compatible with my UTD or my idb

those need funny custom PCBs anyways wo

also centered USB port is not just DB

[calm pulsar]

tbh it looks like you can feed a usb-c cable to the bottom of the pcb and connect it there lol, but for normal approach you might need some adapter

[crimson sky]

wouldn't fit in the hole

[calm pulsar]

[hushed stirrup]

yea i ended up deciding on tx ap

[harsh dove]

#🌟│wooting80he message

#🌟│wooting80he message

[honest sapphire]

nice just scuff marks

[cyan zodiac]

made for korn and oring boards in mind

[lone plume]

Currently what the better 3rd party switch? Raw he? Jade pro? Jade max? Or pro max ultra plus plus

[polar girder]

Same

[wise root]

I heard nothing but great about the Jade Pro. Dunno about the Jade Max tho.

[ionic breach]

its a dollar per switch

thats all you need to know

[mighty egret]

i believe raw he is still slightly better than jade pro, no clue on max

[tropic urchin]

Depends on your budget, RAW HE is very low cost and is the same as the new jades that were released

Maxes should be shipping out in the next 1-3 weeks for ppl so we should get more info once ppl do more sound tests/reviews.

[glacial wind]

geon tested max on stream today

[tropic urchin]

Praise geon

[ionic breach]

so humble

[glacial wind]

said similar things that cam said about the pros. The jade max are improvement over jades, very similar to raw he although the raw he are a tiny bit tighter (but not hugely so)

[ionic breach]

testing lesser switches

[tropic urchin]

Wild that Geon will get real sound tests for Gateron switches meanwhile Gateron waits 3 weeks to release the same muffled sound test they have on their website 😒

[ionic breach]

[drifting anvil]

any good keycaps to recommend? should be not toooo expensive and iso de layout

[tired frigate]

Raw HE’s are amazing

[tropic urchin]

From Geon’s new sound test it looks like the new Maxes and RAW are almost an identical match sound wise

I think with that the maxes are no longer in contention for me, going to be between the Jade Pros and Raw now. Going to be another 2 weeks of indecisiveness while batch 2 progresses.

[glacial wind]

though you walk through the valley of the shadow of gateron, you will fear no evil. Glory to geon and all that he touches

[tropic urchin]

I’m 1 step closer towards seeing the light 🙏🏻

[crimson sky]

As i walk theough the valley of the pro and max
I take a look at the tests and realize there's nothing left
Cause I've been blasting and listening so long that
Even my momma thinks my mind is gone

[exotic venture]

My keycaps came in today. 60HE + Tofu Redux + GMK Oblivion Clones soon

so excited

[cedar gate]

Budget?

[tropic urchin]

That’s how I feel always flip floppin

[stray tiger]

Just watched the eyejoker review. Was really good. Best one so far

[tidal frigate]

@stray tiger have you tested square gummy oring or you didnt get one

[tidal frigate]

Optimum tech x wooting fiction pad

"Square gummy oring"

[stray tiger]

I'm not actively part of the optimum collab testing or providing input. So no, I haven't received anything.

[glacial wind]

Yep easily by far. He went into so much detail and tested things properly

one of the few to also explain deadzone and sensor accuracy differences

[stray tiger]

He also touched on how important firmware and software is. It can make a big difference in the performance.

[devout torrent]

he's also one of the few reviewers that I've seen that goes back periodically and updates numbers on the latest firmwares

[cedar gate]

It's been like 15 years since I saw diffrent strokes🤣

[devout torrent]

@river saffron can do like elecom vk720a does it maybe

[cold bloom]

Yeah you can, he did it in one video where you cut that daughter board out and use a jst cable and cut off the soldered on usb c

[devout torrent]

venom60 has both yeah you can cut off the usb but its not reversible

thats the only downside

[raven urchin]

Black keycaps on White model, how do you feel it ?

[ionic breach]

half joking

[pine idol]

60HE any recommendations for good stabilizers?

[stray tiger]

Lots of options. Stock ones are great though

@polar girder @bronze grove the raw case means it's finally time to use the beskar wasd keycaps

[polar girder]

Oh snap

Gorgeous

[bronze grove]

Dude WHAT

Those are awesome.

[stray tiger]

Been saving them for a while

[regal nest]

these look really nice

[old swallow]

are those ridges different colour, or actually textured

[stray tiger]

textured

[old swallow]

oh, thats sick

[silver ingot]

Hope you have heavy springs

[devout torrent]

glorious is charging $40/36 HE switch??

you can get switches from the same oem for $18 for 90 on ali wtf...

[stray tiger]

200g

Finally done testing switches and was able to build an 80HE finally

[ionic breach]

thats so clean

its like 2 bodygaurds for ur keyboard

like in chinese culture

[mellow rock]

what are some solid keycaps for the 60he? i want a super clean black set no price limit

[cedar gate]

That is actually sick

[stray tiger]

Literally tons, especially black. If you dont need them immediately, pre-order GMK Cosmos

[mellow rock]

my god those are beautiful. def buying those

[ionic breach]

i cant wait to see this on a raw https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-cyl-thunder-god

their artisans and mat is also very nicely done

[cedar gate]

Gmk does shine quick tho so consider that

[mellow rock]

copy papi

[cedar gate]

Link pls

[stray tiger]

I am still undecided on what I put on my raw case. Leaning towards GMK redline, GMK deep space, or GMK deepfield but if I can trade a friend for kaiju mecha base I might do that

[cedar gate]

"My armor has lost its integrity"

[mellow rock]

does anyone have a sound clip of the Jade maxes? i know theyre un released but maybe someone has a sound clip? heard theyre an upgraded jade pro almost equivalent to raw he

[devout torrent]

time to buy aluminum keycaps

[polar girder]

Beautiful. Which switches you going with rn?

[polar girder]

Fr fr

[glacial wind]

Oh drop is redoing the ZMKC gameboy artisan keycap buy: https://drop.com/buy/zmkc-pocket-game-console-artisan-keycap

14 hours left

need to buy one for my gameboy theme

[devout torrent]

need gmk dmg with it

[stray tiger]

I have RAW's for all keys except the spacebar and I went lekker v2

[devout torrent]

blasphemy

[polar girder]

Curious. Nice.

[low bloom]

Any good 60 he compatible switches ( I don’t mind lubing them myself)

[stray tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103459740186595399/1267494266092130346/image.png?ex=66eedd05&is=66ed8b85&hm=e0e75d6521b2001725753e92280c12da6b22357c376dc3443f95b57ae62681c3&

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[silver ingot]

8008 is a good set

[ionic breach]

out of the list, some notable ones are

lekker v2s, geon raw hes, jade pros, black knights

from those its just preference

[low bloom]

Lecker 45v2 or 60v2?

[ionic breach]

preference too

[glacial wind]

Do you care about the fires of hell and the pearly gates of heaven that are guarded by Geon?

[mellow rock]

i think most go for 45

[ionic breach]

a large majority go for 60s

[mellow rock]

oh fr? oopsie

[low bloom]

??

[glacial wind]

Raw HE is the only choice when considering which switch will save your eternal soul

[low bloom]

Bruh

[glacial wind]

THE POWER OF GEON COMPELLS YOU!

[old swallow]

all praise the lord GEON

[glacial wind]

glory to geon and all that he touches

[old swallow]

GEON can touch me anytime

i mean

huh

[loud gull]

Boi

[old swallow]

Maat

[tropic urchin]

What did I just walk into 🤨

[loud gull]

Vriend

[old swallow]

Kerel

[loud gull]

Boterletter

[old swallow]

Makker

[robust siren]

the hourly geon glaze session

[old swallow]

aaah, geon

[stray tiger]

Did you see the beskar keycaps Ive been saving for the raw case?

[cold bloom]

[drifting anvil]

Hmm Max 50 for Propper caps

[stone flax]

Raws

Raws

Raws

[stray tiger]

Quick sound test:
80HE PCR
Stock Geon RAW's 40G (spacebar is lekker v2)
GMK 8008
Stock stabs (factory lube)
stock PET film removed from the back of PCB
No other mods / changes

[dawn stag]

72mb

[idle flint]

Does anyone have a way to attach the strap to other cases not released by wooting? I like the strap but want another case

[robust siren]

theres strap holes on aliexpress that has 3M tape on the other side that can stick to cases

like this

im not sure how it'll hold up though

[rigid temple]

Does anyone know any good quality cherry profile white keycaps

[robust siren]

anything from here are a good palce to start searching
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[rigid temple]

ok, do you know the difference between the gmk and pbt

[robust siren]

almost all gmk keycaps are abs whcih can result in a fast shine from oils, pbt plastic doesnt shine as quick

[rigid temple]

oh ok

[stray tiger]

Not mobile friendly lol

[stone flax]

Gmk is a manufacturer, pbt is a plastic material

[loud gull]

Saw them yeah. Really sick. What's the weight on them? Guess L45's won't do? Haha

[loud gull]

Don't think it'll be strong enough to carry on the strap itself.

[robust siren]

oh yeah definitely not

but if its just for aesthetics then it should be fine

[loud gull]

Oh yeah for sure

[marsh saffron]

👀

[marsh saffron]

Can you dm me the link for this please?

[robust siren]

make a new ali account if you have one and take advantage of the welcome deal (it'll be like a dollar) https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807433765793.html?

i sorted it by cheapest and free shipping

[stray tiger]

Edit your link and delete everything after the ?

[lone plume]

So will you guys spring lube raw he?

[barren wasp]

gateron jade pros or lekkers v2

[stray tiger]

yes

[robust siren]

geon raw he

[stray tiger]

yes

[lone plume]

Ok ty

[marsh saffron]

Ty sir

[stark parrot]

which usb c cables can be used for the wooting?
I dont like the yellow collar and I dont want to pay 60 eur for a keyboard cable..

[robust siren]

cable mod and the ones wooting sells

[idle flint]

Ty so much

[stark parrot]

Ok, why cant I just use any usb c cable?

[robust siren]

power draw

some usb-c cables cant provide enough power to the wooting and will cause issues/glitches

[mental salmon]

Hi Guys, I ended up buying this barebones to put it along my 60HE, is there any mechanical switches you recommend? Either linear or tactile https://drop.com/buy/magicforce-mf34-mechanical-numpad-drop-exclusive

[stark parrot]

Ah okay, do you know how much watt in needs to have?

[robust siren]

im not sure on the specifics

[stray tiger]

There are 1000's. Start here https://github.com/ThereminGoat/switch-scores

[stone flax]

someone did testing

@marsh juniper goat?

[marsh juniper]

still need to redo the testing with all same firmware and same conditions

also for the 80HE

also a section with RGB sleep mode on

[untold wigeon]

yo stupid question but do u need a special switch puller for HE switches or will a standard one work

[stone flax]

Standard

[untold wigeon]

ty man

[devout torrent]

are you talking about jade pro?

theyre thinkng of jade pro

there is no raw pro

[cedar gate]

Yeah I'll delete it don't wanna spread misinfo

[calm pulsar]

Geon did announce pingless HE springs, but pretty sure no new switch was announced

[pulsar schooner]

Oooo

Please also be 2 stage

[rugged garden]

All Geon needs to do is make a clear version of the Raw HE and call it “pro”. People will buy it anyways 🤣

[cedar gate]

If they didn't change a thing people would buy it and say it's better with placebo

[calm pulsar]

I watched the stream with auto-translated subs and he said he had concepts of a transparent HE switch lol

and that he liked the clear look of jade maxes

[thorn grove]

What are y'all favorite keycaps? Looking for some inspiration

[cedar gate]

Pbtfans crosshair

And BOG

[thorn grove]

Black on green? What are the bogs?

[cedar gate]

Black on gray

PBTfans BOG it's a clean looking set

[thorn grove]

I know orange isnt a popular case color but the BoG's would pop on an orange case

[cursive tusk]

Does anyone know if there are any promotion codes for wooting 60+?

[old swallow]

use: DISCORD DISCOUNT

[cursive tusk]

oof

ty

but

[old swallow]

np

[cursive tusk]

XDD

[old swallow]

[wraith widget]

🎉

[cursive tusk]

What do I gain from this?

xd»

?

[wraith widget]

aura

[cursive tusk]

holy

im feel

[old swallow]

real and true pilled

[thorn grove]

https://tenor.com/view/goteem-go-team-happy-fun-sports-gif-4789485

[wraith widget]

[oblique dagger]

Do most people just lube the stock stabs or Hole-mod them?

[tropic urchin]

Think of it as an April Fools joke

[old swallow]

i think most people dont do anything to them tbh

[quiet jewel]

I still cant decide on what keycap set I want lol

[old swallow]

all of them

[quiet jewel]

😭 I wish

I was looking at PBTCrosshair but idk

85 bucks

[old swallow]

its nice

[quiet jewel]

and a set called CKW fast blue

[old swallow]

but wowiewowow

[quiet jewel]

is it worth

[old swallow]

it is to me atleast

but i have quite a few pbtfans sets

[quiet jewel]

I want a pbtfan set but idk which one to get

[old swallow]

thats all the ones i got

[oblique dagger]

I got xray combined with Neon r2 myself

[quiet jewel]

Im orderign some of my stuff off of KBDfans only cause divinkey dont got the thign I want in stock

[oblique dagger]

got one of the very few perfect copies

[quiet jewel]

what do yall suggest

[old swallow]

you know, i actually havent checked if i have malfuncitions lol

since i havent gotten the board im gonna put it on

[oblique dagger]

Check for tolerances and warping, A lot of people have gotten the spacebar warped in their copies

[old swallow]

yh, ill do that tommorow

[rigid temple]

when is the 5090 releasing

[wraith widget]

#🔌│tech but probably 2025

[robust siren]

i finally got it in, a week and a half later

[untold wigeon]

Double check. They said mine was in when it wasn’t

[robust siren]

im using it rn

i did have to call 3 seperate times and i never got an email with shipping info

[calm pulsar]

black plates looking good

[robust siren]

oh well, fresh matte finish feels pretty good 👍

[polar girder]

One day I’ll actually install and compare them

[calm pulsar]

thankfully on the frog you can just install the top piece without screwing it on to just get an idea of how the plate sounds

I got a pic from mail forwarder in korea, everything from geon arrived, only waiting for sw knights now

so I will have a black plate too

[untold wigeon]

Oh nice

[cedar gate]

Crosshair is the stuff of legends

[old swallow]

yh, its quite nice

[sleek wagon]

It's crazy how shit the Lekker v2's sound compared to the Jade Pros

[cedar gate]

RAWs blow pros out of the water IMO

[spring saffron]

Imma go with wooting as my first kb so I wanted to ask you guys if I should go with the jade switches or if u have any other suggestions

[marsh saffron]

Geonworks raw HE

Basically cheaper + better than jades

[old swallow]

[spring saffron]

Sound good too?

[cedar gate]

Yeah like half the price better sound and more stability better feel

[cedar gate]

Sounds cleaner than jades

[old swallow]

yep, better fs

[marsh saffron]

Cleaner sound profile than jades have

[sleek wagon]

It's always between Raw HE and Jades in here, listen to sound tests of both and decide which sound you prefer

[old swallow]

ngl, i think everyone who has both prefers the Raws (me included).

its just that jades were the best for a long time

[marsh saffron]

^

I've talked to 0 people who have tried both and preferred jades

[spring saffron]

Alright so far I pretty much have the module for the 80he, prolly raw switches, and double shot pbt key caps. Would you guys suggest something else I should get? Lubes etc?

[old swallow]

hmmm, youre probably fine with factory lube

[tropic urchin]

I'm thinking I'll probably wind up going RAW, sounds almost identical to the new Maxes and in comparison to the Pros, they're starting to win me over

[calm pulsar]

well lubed jade pros are probably not super far from raws in terms of tolerances

but then it becomes a difference in bottom out feel cause in jade pro the stem is hitting flat plastic bottom and in raws it is a bit softer due to semi-open design

so raws are still nicer

[marsh saffron]

I would say the better tolerances and cheaper price makes them objectively better anyway

[calm pulsar]

yeah pretty much

[tropic urchin]

if you're in batch 2, you should have time to cancel the jade pack

ah

[spring saffron]

Will the wooting double shot pbt key caps be good enough or should I look for something else?

Thank you all for your help 💜

[tropic urchin]

I haven't tried them yet, but I'm getting the double shot back lit for now and if I wanna upgrade later thats what im prob gonna do

none currently, I'm waiting on the 80HE

my first HE 🙂

[stone flax]

raws

[tropic urchin]

I originally was a big fan of the jade sound and got the jade pack and then they announced the new jades and RAW HE came onto the scene so its been very indecisive for what i've wanted

[stone flax]

raws

raws

raws

[calm pulsar]

needs a black plate

[quiet bay]

I like both new jades and raw he in terms of sound

but raw he def more affordable

depending on shipping

[stone flax]

ur probably bing chilling here

[jade storm]

raws

[stone flax]

cam said raws continue to have better wobble compared to pros

so that should just further cement

raws >>>> jades

[jade storm]

raws

[calm pulsar]

Wooting sells black PC plate, or you can check kbdfans for black alu plate, fr4 or carbon fiber

also you can order a custom made from hypekeyboards with material of choice

[quiet bay]

btw is geon working on a new HE switch or nah?

[stone flax]

he would tell us if he is

[calm pulsar]

@viscid tusk I mean it's just a visual thing, you don't have to follow my advice 😄

[tropic urchin]

no its legally binding

[quiet bay]

dang cause black ones would be nice

[stone flax]

RAWS

[old swallow]

me with my uranium plate 🤔

[tropic urchin]

You'll be happy to know I'm taking steps closer to the light 🥲

[calm pulsar]

yeah, but they would have to be called something else, cause raw switch lineup is called like that due to the fact that plastic materials used are not dyed

[stone flax]

get raws

[calm pulsar]

no rgb needed lmao

[stone flax]

yeahs its a whole thing with a bunch of manus

i heavily doubt the next switch is raw v2

[tropic urchin]

to be fair if my 80he was 3 weeks away I probably would, I'm holding out a little longer for more tests since I'm gonna have to wait anyway, but im leaning towards RAWs currently

[stone flax]

tests of what?

[calm pulsar]

he said on stream he liked transparent looks and had prototypes of that

[stone flax]

its been largely exhaustive

[tropic urchin]

waiting for more people to get the Jade Pros and Maxes shipped out

[stone flax]

god i hope clear housings doesnt mean abs

god

[stone flax]

pros have already been extensively compared

raws are still better

[calm pulsar]

maybe pc like jade maximus

[stone flax]

ehhh

nylon full travel geon switch

pls

[tropic urchin]

I'm talking about more sound tests, but its more copium on my part. I could order the RAWs now, but they're just gonna sit waiting forever

[sleek wagon]

All he switches sound like shit 💯

[calm pulsar]

tbf on the frog I don't see the switch as much as I used to on my freebird60, so I care less for a black switch now, but it would be super nice to get one

[stone flax]

sound tests are a lie with exception to comparitive results

still