🌟│wooting80he

[high scroll]

how accurate is Fedex delivery date cuz its telling me they gonna deliver it first October is it possible to arrive earlier ?

[kindred coral]

Yes

It is possible to arrive earlier

my wooting keycaps arrived like 2 weeks before estimated delivery time which is crazy

got it 4 days after ordering

[atomic brook]

naruske streaming rn

https://www.twitch.tv/naruske

[high scroll]

i will be happy if im gonna receive it next week

12 days is a lot

[wide goblet]

best kb on the market

[kindred coral]

12 days is really not a lot

[worn compass]

Good to hear, very excited to receive mine in 2 months

[pseudo parrot]

naruske's two he in the background there realizing its about to be retired

[restive bay]

In Canary Island it takes a minimum of 2 weeks until anything arrives

12 days is nothing, trust me

Timings are surprising tbh

[high scroll]

i guess we will wait more

[restive bay]

Everything is going smooth

[high scroll]

tru

[lime falcon]

let me guess, 5 days and youll change your mind

[wide goblet]

I speak about socd not about the kb

Use your brain instead of want to trashtalk everytime with your friends

[lime falcon]

only socd

alright buddy

[steel shuttle]

2 days more

[rocky anchor]

does anyone own the frost PCR case?

[tidal sleet]

Finally

[rocky anchor]

so far no ones got it

[tidal sleet]

Also self assembly video launched

[steel grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8rpZ6-j1-M

[tidal sleet]

Yoooo

[steel grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO6A2Jr7COI

[tidal sleet]

That's sickkkk

[rocky anchor]

yea i watched every review none of em have the normal frost case

ah actually theres prolly one on the wooting channel

[rapid basalt]

im founder in CANADA, ITS COMING~!~!! SHIPPED

Shipped to you
Your order is on its way!

[craggy widget]

Same mine says I’ll get it on the 19th

[acoustic jasper]

just sounds better than any other he board

[buoyant solstice]

#🌟│wooting80he message

Max posted some pics earlier.

[rocky anchor]

woahhh thats bright

[buoyant solstice]

Doubt you'll see customers anytime soon, since frost assumes module, which are th last ones to go out.

[acoustic jasper]

oh yea that looks sick

[visual solstice]

Does the black PCR plastic case look good?

[rocky anchor]

ahh i see.. good to know

i think ill hold off on cancelling my order then

[buoyant solstice]

Just keep in mind that the RGB is mostly sideways and up. LEDs don't shine downwards, so it'll be more muted below

[acoustic jasper]

i might try to sand the frost case to adjust the frosting

[thin glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-cat-cute-gif-12080171459357821404

This is me staring at my production status 24/7

[rocky anchor]

swear down im in class and all i can imagine is the status 😭

[thin glacier]

It’s all I’ve been thinking about lately 😂

[snow canyon]

Also now that batch 2 is in mass production… if I were to change case now would that delay my order?

[thin glacier]

How did you get the NA-Bridge role?

[stable ravine]

probably not, its when its closer to shipping that it can be an issue, i'd still make and changes ASAP tho

[snow canyon]

I just connected my discord account on the wooting website

Didn’t do anything else lol

[thin glacier]

I did that too

[rocky anchor]

takes a min

[snow canyon]

You placed your order recently?

[snow canyon]

[thin glacier]

I connected it 2 days ago tho

[snow canyon]

I’m thinking of changing to frost or ghost

[thin glacier]

And placed it about 3 days ago

[visual solstice]

did all of you get the zinc alloy case?

[thin glacier]

No I got plastic

[stable ravine]

i got white zinc

[snow canyon]

Lot of the founders did from what I saw

[rocky anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-empty-wallet-hurt-look-away-gif-13355852

[dusky tiger]

yo I really wonder; right now with the batch you are shipping out right

[visual solstice]

you got the frost or the black?

[snow canyon]

[thin glacier]

Black

[visual solstice]

me too

[snow canyon]

Which keycap

[thin glacier]

Haven’t decided yet

[snow canyon]

Which keycap

[stable ravine]

me checking the bank account after ordering zinc

[dusky tiger]

do you have some backups in case someone at the warehouse were to accidentally drop a keyboard?

[thin glacier]

Still trying to figure that out mane

[snow canyon]

Ah lol

[visual solstice]

just the stock one i think

[snow canyon]

Black?

[visual solstice]

yup

[snow canyon]

[thin glacier]

I got the regular black ones but I plan to change them out

I already ordered my raw HE switches

[visual solstice]

mabye later ill change them too a different set of keycaps but not sure yet

[prisma olive]

Anyone have an idea how long it will take for the 80HE to arrive? on the website i am being told its up to 2 months😭😭😭

[dusky tiger]

it'll take up to 2 months

[snow canyon]

Someone showed their order will deliver to them in Feb

So consider yourself lucky lol

[thin glacier]

It depends on what you order, when you order and where your shipping too

[prisma olive]

I live in the UK so i thought maybe not THAT long

[worn compass]

randomfrankp’s review is so informative…

[white dock]

whytf cant this keeb just spawn infront of me rn

[worn compass]

Thats how I feel sometimes lmao

[ruby charm]

bro

im typing this in my new keyboard

this is horny as fuck

[snow canyon]

I’m not sure if I sense sarcasm or not

[drowsy laurel]

is there a difference between delivery time between the zinc alloy case and the standard case?

[thin glacier]

Don’t rub it in

[snow canyon]

[white dock]

hows the spacebar

[snow canyon]

Pics pls

[thin glacier]

Should tell you on the website depending on what you pick

[ruby charm]

sexy as fuck bro

[snow canyon]

Pics pls

[ruby charm]

i have not experienced a good keyboard in myt life

[prisma olive]

Anyone have any recommendations if I want to buy different key caps what types to buy as I am probably going to mod it out?

[drowsy laurel]

mine comes friday but my friend thinks it comes earlier cause i have zinc alloy case

[ruby charm]

this ijs sick\

[white dock]

what was your keyboard before this

[cobalt scarab]

what did you have before it?

[rocky anchor]

seems like ure not used to it yet lmao

[tardy goblet]

Imagine me getting my 80HE tomorrow, but been using and OLD MEMBRANE Steelseries Apex keyboard for like 10+ years

[visual solstice]

Do ceramic keycaps work on the wooting?

[atomic brook]

yup

[thin glacier]

You should have a tracking number that will tell you. If you’re this close to delivery I don’t think it matters if it’s zinc or plastic tbh

[atomic brook]

just buy 80g springs

[visual solstice]

are they good for gaming?

[white dock]

how is the 60g actuation force

[buoyant solstice]

You might want to buy some heavier springs for the spaceba... Yeah

[atomic brook]

bruddah its keycaps

[thin glacier]

You tellin me my 40g springs are too little for my spacebar?

[worn compass]

Im being serious, so far this is probably the review I’d show to someone to convince them to buy an 80he. Also Ik it’s kinda a niche but thank god reviewers make videos in 4k

[visual solstice]

I game 10 hours a day 💀

[atomic brook]

if you like the feel of ceramic than ya

its not like they give you 10% less latency

[snow canyon]

[marsh canopy]

To people with their 80he, did u need to add lube to the stabs ?

[full cedar]

How likely is it to get it tmr?

[white dock]

i think its prelubed

[thin glacier]

I don’t think keycaps have any effect on gaming performance

[visual solstice]

but they are 126 dollars

Ceramic keycaps are heavier than normal ones

[ruby charm]

some steelseries garbage

[atomic brook]

yea ofc

[thin glacier]

Keycaps are more about preference

[atomic brook]

thats why you need 80g springs for the spacebar

[ruby charm]

yes

[marsh canopy]

Should be but wanted to know if anybody needed to add additional lube

[visual solstice]

oh then i have a problem

[lapis galleon]

not really. like they're keycaps they'll get the job done, but they're really smooth so you wont have great traction, especially if you're gaming for a while.

[thin glacier]

What if I got 40g springs for my spacebar?

[visual solstice]

i have never modded a keyboard before

[atomic brook]

constant pressed down space

[thin glacier]

Fml

[visual solstice]

and i'm not planning to

[thin glacier]

I’ll leave the lekkers in for my spacebar then

[visual solstice]

but changes keycaps is easy

[atomic brook]

for ceramic keycaps btw

[thin glacier]

Oh okay, normal keycaps are fine then?

[atomic brook]

ye

[thin glacier]

Bet ty

[cobalt scarab]

Probably wouldnt make much of a difference, but if i had to say, id say no, just the higher weight means more inertia means it takes more energy to move them, but probably not by enough to actually make a noticeable difference in game

[worn compass]

I feel like that’d be worse because I already accidentally press spacebar sometimes on my current mech keeb, and the switch is 70g with 2.0mm actuation

[visual solstice]

they do cost like 126 euros so i dont think i'm gonna buy them

[prisma olive]

whats the best springs to buy in general?

[thin glacier]

I run 0.1 mm actuation rn with Omni points. Not sure what the g force is tbh . But I fat finger all the time 😂

[worn compass]

Its the weight force it takes to press the switch all the way down

[cobalt scarab]

they are more for the novelty anyways, still really cool, but if you care for performance i wouldnt bother with them

[visual solstice]

Oh okay

[thin glacier]

I just meant I don’t know what weight the Omni points are. Whether they are 70g, 60g or 45g

[visual solstice]

thanks for the advice

[cobalt scarab]

np

[worn compass]

Ohh ok

[ruby charm]

now all i need to do is switch the keycaps from black to white and im set

does lubing make such a big difference? and what does it change because this feels fine by me

[marsh canopy]

Squashy boy’s 80he space bar sounded like it needed some Lube and wondered if any other 80he owner had the same noisy space bar

[thin glacier]

They are 45g rn so my 40 g’s won’t be a big difference

[stable ravine]

im thinking of just getting a few novelty keycaps, i like how clean the full white looks

[worn compass]

Ah I see, gl trying not to fat finger once you get your 80he

[thin glacier]

i can always change them out. The RAW’s were cheap ngl

[thick lichen]

always them hashtags 😭

[ruby charm]

guys the l45 comes prelubed aswell right?

[midnight iron]

it's quite common for stock stabs to need a little lube touchup, particularly with space bar

you can get lucky and have a good stock stab, but half the time I find they need a touch up

[pastel edge]

Mine is fine, but I have a different slight issue. Arrow keys, mostly the right one. Seems very hollow, but yeah just something to fill in when modding it I suppose.

[thick lichen]

My sample also benefitted a lot of extra lube in the spacebar. From the factory it only gets injected some lube, but its nothing too precise.
If they were going to do holee mods or manually lube them it would cost a bit of money as it is quite time intensive.

[stable ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

is this video still up to date with the new switches?

[thin glacier]

Bro must have read my mind. I was just typing how to lube a switch

[thick lichen]

Yeah it is the same basically

[dusky tiger]

tracking works now

wait his has picture of my home

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-going-on-gif-20800367

[lapis galleon]

oh hi sander. whatever happen to that 60he case that was used as a cereal bowl? is it still lying around somewhere?

[dusky tiger]

I hope the kb comes saturday and not monday

[next lark]

zinc seems more high pitched too

[lapis galleon]

thats simply just the acoustics if metal compared to plastic

[thick lichen]

Not sure exactly about that one. But I still have a spare case around I believe. If you go to Clackycon this Saturday, I can bring it along and give it to you.

[jagged moat]

Does Somebody has a good Idea what numpad i could use so the Numpad Keycaps will not be wasted?

[thick lichen]

Zinc resonates more yeah

[next lark]

do ansi prebuilts come with all the other extra keys

[verbal solar]

Hello chat

[verbal solar]

But not the symbols

[jagged moat]

lol

[verbal solar]

Might just get blank

[verbal solar]

I added 1 person

Funny how I still was flagged as a bot/spam when I had 100€ nitro and added 5-10 people

Guess 100€ only gets you that much in a app made by scammers

Plus the reat that I spent gifting and animations

rest*

[lime falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LAGIwWDnQ

I hate hipyo

[humble cargo]

another shit take from hipyo, in other news grass is green

[lime falcon]

I mean after what dude said about rapid trigger

[zealous oak]

Let's see

[lime falcon]

I dont think he has any idea what hes talking about

[white dock]

gonna watch this

[worn compass]

The video just came out

Chill

[lime falcon]

Ive watched enough

Thanks

[humble cargo]

based on earlier vids of his I've seen he talks the talk but doesn't really walk the walk i.e. he doesn't really know what he's on about a lot of the time

[dreamy sedge]

damn my keeb is 50 minutes drive away from since 5hours

[steel grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBu145gGdc0 WOOTING 80HE, the Adderall of gaming keyboards

[lime falcon]

Yea

[full elbow]

I’m waiting for optimum to make a video

[humble cargo]

the dunning kruger of keyboard reviewers

[full elbow]

I’ll watch him over hipyo

[white dock]

optimum has a keyboard in the making with wooting, i wouldnt expect a non biased review

[full elbow]

True

[proud oracle]

any frost case enjoyers in chat?

[humble cargo]

at least optimum tends to know the things he's talking about

[humble cargo]

am getting the frost

[humble sluice]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[timid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

[zealous oak]

I've watched 5 mins and it's complaining the whole 5 minutes

[lime falcon]

I mean this dude cant see the point of rapid trigger, he said it barely makes a difference

[humble cargo]

yeah he's a custom keyboard snob that doesn't really know much about keyboards

[lime falcon]

hes complaining for 23 minutes and 21 seconds

[humble cargo]

last person I'd listen to re gaming

[lime falcon]

Bbbut... bbuttt this aliexpress 30$ keyboard is THOCKKKKK (with 1000 ms latency)

[white dock]

i mean, some of the complaints he has is that the keyboard doesnt sound the best and he literally says himself that its because Hall Effect always sound off, so this isnt even the keyboards fault

[humble cargo]

which is kinda bullcrap anyways because they're literally just linears

[lime falcon]

bros just certified yapper

[humble cargo]

hall effect or regular linears doesn't sound much different at all, I'd argue HE ones are even smoother

[worn compass]

Halfway through and so far, stretching the videos as long as possible.. hipyo’s signature
Thumbnail clearly ragebait
Recommending cheaper HE boards without not understanding the issues most of them have
Rambling about non existent issues the 80he has physically… (besides the white zince case problem which is most likely prevalent in early units and even so if it is prevalent in current units it’s covered by warranty..)

[white dock]

he also says the gasket mount is very stiff (which he complained about on pretty much all Hall Effect keyboards he has reviewed yet)

[lime falcon]

Yep

[humble cargo]

dude seems to have a bias against gaming-oriented keyboards in general

[midnight iron]

I don't really care if he wants to compare he vs mx and say it sounds/feels bad in comparison, because it's true if vs an mx board it won't match up. However I think it's hard to take a review seriously when a provably extremely big gaming advantage like rapid trigger is talked about as minor when it's a huge advantage

[buoyant solstice]

And they have to be - cause... HE 😄

[white dock]

i mean, yeah...

[humble cargo]

but muh custom thoccccccccccccc

[buoyant solstice]

[worn compass]

Certified yapper, disappointed about the review but his yapping gets me through some long days

[midnight iron]

it's like he's reviewing a car designed for going fast in a straight line and saying "well i think driving fast in a straight line isn't that important, but why does this car suck at fast turns"

[worn compass]

Thats how it feels when watching the hipyo review

[lime falcon]

I mean I dont really care but he definitely has no idea what hes talking about, hope he continues reviewing 30$ ali keyboards

[buoyant solstice]

where is the gasket mount? he says while the B-roll literally shows the keyboard bouncing up and down on the gasket 😄

[lime falcon]

I reported his video lmfao

[rancid carbon]

hii

[white dock]

tbh he has some valid complaints like the Zinc Alloy Case scratching, some other reviewer had a chipped unit aswell

he said the plastic feels very cheap, anyone have a PCR that can report on their quality lol?

[worn compass]

Not to conspire but I feel like video is mostly interaction bait

[humble sluice]

Diamondlobbyreviews said he felt it was the highest quality plastic he had felt lol

[zealous oak]

So for him the internals are the "keycaps and the switches" what a douchebag

[white dock]

were there any complaints in his video at all?

[humble sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO6A2Jr7COI

[white dock]

i know ur on the wooting team, i just want to watch a youtuber with an actual unbiased review, Squashy Boys was pretty good i think.

[valid comet]

is something up with the white zinc paint coating?

[lime falcon]

diamondlobby is unbiased

[buoyant solstice]

I mean... Max linked you a review. From a reviewer.
Not sure what you're asking for here 😄

There's no such thing as an unbiased review. Every reviewer has preferences and an inherent bias towards their favourite kind of products.

[lime falcon]

he always says what he likes and what not

unlike hipyo

[white dock]

u right, ill take a look

[dim sierra]

someone posted a white zinc with chipped paint, so someone hit it somewhere

[lime falcon]

hipyo has personal beef with HE keyboards and wooting in general

[humble sluice]

All reviewers are free to say what they want. We have 0 say at any point at any moment

[white dock]

idk it seems the Zync material itself is more prone to show signs of abuses

[buoyant solstice]

Oh boy. He has an entire section, ranting about hall effect switches.

[valid comet]

dude thats besides the point, metal shouldnt scratch that easily

[midnight iron]

he just constantly compares everything to the impossible standard of a non he keyboard and says all the he features are pointless. seems about right for hipyo.

[dim sierra]

its the paint not the metal

[valid comet]

the paint i mean

[lime falcon]

Im pretty sure that was an early unit, but besides that he was yapping whole video

[humble cargo]

which is why am mainly interested in the raw zinc version, dents, scratches and oxidation will just be part of the patina

[valid comet]

i really hope its just an early unit thing

[grim mortar]

Did he really compared a keyboard upgrade with a professional gamer coach? xD

[worn compass]

Wooting clearly took the same criticisms that most people gave about the 60he, Hipyo made similar criticisms. 80he strived to be as best as possible taking those criticisms from the previous board. And hipyo bashes it after clearly complimenting it at the beginning

[white dock]

that vid is def a sting for the wooting team

[dim sierra]

with enough force i think it will chip/scratch just hope mine is free of defects

[midnight iron]

i mean he hated the 60he so I don't know what people were expecting

[white dock]

I JUST REMEMBERED

[valid comet]

i mean I have the black zinc and iirc it uses a more durable paint job i think?

[proud portal]

Is the white finish really as bad as Hipyo makes it seem? The scratches are crazy

[white dock]

someone saw his wooting customization video?

[zealous oak]

Yeah exactly

[coarse crest]

Let’s also not pretend that Hipyo has played a single game in his life tbh

[dim sierra]

the guy who posted the pic looks like someone hit or drop the case during the production or packing process

[proud portal]

(I got the black one luckily)

[pastel edge]

mine is spotless, not sure how durable it'd be, not gonna bang up my 400 euro keyboard for the lulz

[upbeat pumice]

He had the same criticism towards the 60HE as most everyone else, that it sounds bad, which is probably the reason they made so many changes for the 80HE, toxic positivity will not make better products

[white dock]

https://youtu.be/NEqLYDnlu-w?si=KfbAz-yvrKty5Z-t

remember this video? anyone of you seen a worse modded 60he ? XD

[lime falcon]

no

[worn compass]

This has to be bait, low effort bait at most 😭
Dunno what bro was thinking

[midnight iron]

yes and what's your point? He also said rapid trigger does nothing

[valid comet]

exactly I am a founder of this project as well and im just sharing my concerns with the product

[kind fulcrum]

I'll let u know once I've used my white zinc for a few days. I am a very clumsy person, so will definitely bump my mouse/watch/ring/... other things onto the paint

[zealous oak]

Guy seems to have some personal issues against Wooting or so lol

[midnight iron]

he was talking about hipyo not you btw

[valid comet]

its nothing related to HE tech or wooting as a brand, its just the paint coating

[worn compass]

Feels like he tried it for one day only, and immediately started writing the script for the video afterwards

[kindred coral]

Do reviewers just do not understand they got early copies with non final production quality

[valid comet]

oh

[sage ore]

idk why hes even trying to review gaming keyboards at this point

[lime falcon]

I doubt that he tried it for one day

[sage ore]

he clearly has no clue what hes talking about

[dim sierra]

the scratches hipyo seems to be talking about its his keycaps puller not the case tho

[white dock]

He is comparing the sound of an HE switch to a mechanical switch and saying it sounds worse

[upbeat pumice]

The reason for me getting the plastic case was that i don't think that the metal case can ever be worth the price that wooting is asking for it. I'd rather get the cheap plastic one and get an aftermarket aluminum (or even wood) case later seperately from someone else

[worn compass]

Some do, clearly not hipyotech

[white dock]

because... its a different switch

[lime falcon]

Do you think it will be cheaper than wootings? no

[worn compass]

Meant to respond to this

[sage ore]

[worn compass]

Calling Hall effect switches overrated is wild 😭

[white dock]

thats a valid take honestly

bc alot of people wont notice a difference

[pastel edge]

well, its his opinion afterall, this is just a case of him reviewing a product clearly not aimed at him

[lime falcon]

he changed thumbnail

[merry umbra]

He also showed a small clip about a interview he had with the Wooting "owner" where he tries to explain rappid trigger beneficts and at the end dude just say "There is no effect" 💀

[lime falcon]

[worn compass]

I cant make a statement, never owned an HE board

[white dock]

he changed it from "its mid" to "im mad"

[lime falcon]

LMAO

[spring oar]

Mans gotta eat

[queen vigil]

lol

[kindred coral]

hipyo is the type of guy to go back to regular mechanical switches

[pastel edge]

now change it to im mid

[lime falcon]

It should have been " IM MID "

[worn compass]

The bills are NOT THAT HIGH 😭🙏🙏

[weary wren]

he hates it

[merry umbra]

The only thing that i slighty agree its the plastic case, nothing else

[coarse crest]

I take Hipyo’s opinion on a gaming keyboard about as seriously as a vegan’s review of a steak house tbf

[white dock]

Its A/B testing blud is A/B testing keyboard thumbnails

[kindred coral]

What do you mean

[upbeat pumice]

i don't mind paying more if it is worth the price, like i said i don't think the price that wooting is asking for is worth it. If it was aluminum it probably would have been, i think they just went with zinc alloy because of some 'saving the world' kind of thinking that they keep going on about

[sage ore]

thats a good comparison

[merry umbra]

For 200€ we could get a better case material in my opinion, but maybe its to expensive idk the build costs

[spring oar]

We'll see, the weight on that is 800g, my kb is 800g and the top is some kind of cheap metal and I like how it feels

[gilded horizon]

Damn I’m worried about those scratches on the white zinc case I have coming

[valid comet]

again im concerned about the white zinc coating also my black zinc when i get it

[worn compass]

Hipyo recommends buying coaching for videogames instead of the 80he
Dunno how to feel about it. He’s right to a certain degree but some people aint wanna take it that seriously

[zealous oak]

Just saw that, yea. He seems like he tries to be above them

[sage ore]

omg

did you guys watch the coaching part

[spring oar]

I'm too introverted to even meet people, no way I'm doing coaching

[kindred coral]

It's an early copy, your keyboard won't have that and if it does it will be covered by warranty

[merry umbra]

He said he was hardstuck gold on LOL and payed for coach to get emerald, this dude is clueless about gaming 💀

[buoyant solstice]

That was an hour long interview btw. I believe it's available to his patreons.

[dim sierra]

just dont scratch it with ur keycap pullers, if u do just wipe it off

[coarse crest]

Banger thumbnail 🤣

[lime falcon]

Why do people think ALUM is the QUALITY? its literally the cheapest metal

[merry umbra]

Yeah he said he would post the full interview for members or something (pay to watch)

[sage ore]

bro went from gold to emerald 💀

i would refund my coach if that was the result

[buoyant solstice]

Casting was cheaper than milling. And Zinc was easier to work with. So... not really?

[humble sluice]

he said there is no effect about 8khz not RT

[lime falcon]

He was talking about rapid trigger

[merry umbra]

Let me see again i send you time stamp

[queen vigil]

What is an A1 key?

[humble cargo]

if they don't they're not using any of the advantages of the technology, if you set up the HE switches to work the same as regular ones you won't notice anything different at all

[upbeat pumice]

sure but why arent the $100 aluminum HE keyboards scratching

[humble sluice]

Show me where i am right 😄

[white dock]

guys, he buys league coaching for gold elo

we dont have to talk about him anymore.

[snow canyon]

damn hipyo didnt like?

[humble cargo]

I can guarantee you'll notice a key actuating at 0.2 vs 2mm that most regular switches have

[buoyant solstice]

You're talking about the "paintjob" finish now, not the underlying metal.

[lost forge]

Just put some xda keycaps on it, love the feel of those

[sage ore]

lets go i have the same keycaps

[merry umbra]

Not saying you are wrong, but the way he awnser Calder leaves a gap if he awnser to the RT or the 8K

Thats why i got confuse

[humble sluice]

Yeah there was a cut there

[upbeat pumice]

so why am i paying out my butt for inferior paint jobs? (I'm not which is why i got plastic thankfully)

[merry umbra]

Yup, thats what causes the missunderstood between RT or 8K. But of course you were in the interview you know better then me 🙂

[winged valley]

one 👏 more 👏 day

[snow canyon]

black and white goes well

[steady escarp]

another thumbnail version

[merry umbra]

Is there any statistic or graphic showing the difference between 1k and 8k?

[steady escarp]

just multiply by 8 bro

[humble cargo]

personally I don't get the obsession with keyboard sound

[silk quartz]

It looks like Gateron's dual rail switches don't really work well ony 80HE 😦

[merry umbra]

I know ahhaha, but the the time difference you know, just wanted to know the detailed statistic behind it

[lilac marten]

wait lol is this the old thumbnail?

[merry umbra]

Of course 8K > 1K

[humble cargo]

having a keyboard being quieter and less offensive sounding sure, but chasing that perfect thocccc or whatever, ehhh

just listen to music m8

[winged valley]

wait who is this toober

[atomic brook]

0.6ms diff

[full elbow]

All day even in games haha

[lime falcon]

yapper

[winged valley]

good answer

[merry umbra]

You can see he is a yapper when he says there is no difference between 1K and 8K 🤣

[flint junco]

no sound would be the best tbh

[merry umbra]

He must work for logitech tbh

[lime falcon]

I dont think so about that one

[humble cargo]

I mean to be fair there kinda isn't in the real world

[worn compass]

I understand feel and sound but hipyo takes it too seriously, Ik those strong feelings he has towards the board are just played up for views

[full elbow]

😂

[sage ore]

on mice or keyboard?

[lime falcon]

there is indeed no difference between 1k and 8k

[steady escarp]

I think he is doing a/b testing so some people still see that one

[merry umbra]

Keyboard

[humble cargo]

that's actually one of the points he gets quite correct

[sage ore]

at least 8khz on kb shouldnt diminish fps

like mouse does sometimes

[merry umbra]

If we go to the 0.001 reaction time of course we wont make use of 8K as casual players and humans, but at the end you know there is a difference. Otherwise 8K wasnt a thing

[lilac marten]

60HE is like $160 the 80HE is around $200 the big price tag is just what you have to pay for good hall effect tech

i dont think this hipyo guy understands that

[merry umbra]

The only thing i "agree" with him its about the cases but yeah

[kindred coral]

60HE is $175

[lime falcon]

he thinks that if there are cheap HE keyboards they function the same

[proud oracle]

very interesting review by hipyo tech

[worn compass]

Comparing the 60 to the 80 price tag makes the 80 seem like a stellar deal

[pastel edge]

he doesnt, this keyboard isnt for him, its fine

[kindred coral]

he just hating for no reason

[humble cargo]

its a thing because gullible people think it is and its sells keyboards, 8k makes a difference on mice so people think it does on keyboards as well, its just using peoples ignorance for marketing

[flint junco]

its 8k because its possible thats basically it

[half flume]

doesn’t matter if u know there is a difference if it doesn’t change anything

[snow canyon]

didnt Hipyo not like the 60he and then change his opinion later on?

[thick lichen]

Can't have positive reviews all the time, its all good 😉

[half flume]

[thick lichen]

We just do as much as we can with the feedback provided

[proud oracle]

yeah exactly it's his opinion. I'm just saying that it's interesting

[half flume]

so hipyo already posted review of 80he?

[snow canyon]

yea

[lilac marten]

makes sense he does seem to be quite influential tho he gets millions of views

[merry umbra]

You bugged me out 😂

[summer fiber]

Yes

[half flume]

that was fast lol

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. It's been the talk of the channel for half an hour now.

[pastel edge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[flint junco]

are there more reviews already out?

[upbeat pumice]

for me the reason i bought one is still first and foremost wootility, i want to get switches from someone else, want to get cases from someone else, keycaps from someone else. Wooting even made it easy to be able to switch it all out.

[proud oracle]

i think as well he's measuring it from a "im coming from a 60He" perspective and not from "ive never owned a magnatic keyboard" perspective

[valid comet]

yeah, im just concerned about the paint

[sage ore]

dont worry bro youre doing good you got like 90% of the naraka community using a wooting at this point

[buoyant solstice]

Technically slow. He's like 6 hours late for the embargo 😄

[half flume]

naraka 💀

[thick lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO6A2Jr7COI&t DiamondLobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8rpZ6-j1-M SquashyBoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBu145gGdc0&t RandomFrankP

[sage ore]

i have to move to china soon to keep playing 🥲

[thick lichen]

So far the reviews on YouTube besides hipyo

[half flume]

yeah it’s like dead in na

[valid comet]

squashy hsd a chip in his white zinc unit but otherwise he seemed happy with his sent unit

[zealous oak]

"These are worse keyboards than what you can get nowadays unless you care about Hall Effect" Does this hipyo guy he was reviewing an HE keyboard

[flint junco]

thanks! more reviews to watch till i get mine on friday

[pale geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mbyeya-cQ8

[quiet pawn]

affiliate link abuser- i mean Hipyo tech doesn't know a damn thing.

[sage ore]

hes pretty much the embodiment of r/mechanical keyboards

so not surprised tbh

[thick lichen]

Oh we don't worry. We just take every piece of feedback and try to improve our products along the way. Anything is welcome.
Hipyo represents a part of our target audience as well. So any feedback is welcome. That way you can try to make something that is the best of both worlds. ^^

[sage ore]

thats a great mindset

[silk hedge]

He did however show off other less expensive he keebs that in his opinion ha d a more premium feel to them

[worn compass]

the hipyo video doesn’t feel like a genuine review of the product more like bait or “I dislike le popular thing” type video. Tries to make points that end up falling flat. The 60he review he made was alright and had valid criticisms but the criticisms he made for the 80he more or less felt like very very minor not picks

[rancid ridge]

i think even if theres a more premium feel with other keebs, the software sets wooting apart. so it rlly depends what youre looking for eh

[buoyant solstice]

This one costs 80 bucks less, but the software is beyond godawful made me chuckle.

[proud oracle]

idk from hypio's review i really think he's looking for reasons to hate

[buoyant solstice]

Just goes to show what people prioritise differently.

[silk hedge]

Yeah he clearly cared more for the feel

[rancid ridge]

personally im lookin for a keyboard with quick updates and great software, so wooting is the route for me. just depends on what you want from a keeb

[hybrid birch]

a 80HE in 2 or 3 months can be different from the one we have now?

[zealous oak]

and then he proceeds to criticise their software because its not remotely close to Wooting's, then...

[thick lichen]

Hipyo is more into feel and sound. And that is fair. I mean I still want my tactiles and marble sound which hasn't been achieved with any HE keyboard yet. Still, I think 80HE + Geon RAW HE's do a pretty good job as well.

[jovial patio]

tbh he mentioned the best games for wchich the HE switches could be for and he plays non of them LUL

[sage ore]

i used the drunkdeer for quite some time but in terms of consistency it wasnt even close to the wooting imo

and a friend of mine felt the same when he switched from the DD to a wooting

[weary wren]

I am still using a drunk deer until my 80he arrives

[zealous oak]

Ye but if he is reviewing a HE keyboard he needs to put that into perspective cause all the things goes around that

[jovial patio]

to me it felt like a keyboard sound enthusiast review than a gamer review

[thick lichen]

Third batch maybe. But second batch which comes in Nov should be about the same.

[pastel edge]

well, to make a thing cheaper, you need to make it cheaper somehow, no way around it

[worn compass]

Speaking of, are other cheaper HE alternatives inconsistent or is it just yapping to hate?

[sage ore]

its a good board for the price ngl but there is a difference to a wooting in terms of performance

[merry umbra]

Yeah but wooting is made for gaming, wich i think he dont understant, otherwise he wouldnt make criticism the way he made. He would make sugestions or so

[silk hedge]

I mean you can bet ur bisquits he's gonna make a "i modded the wooting 80he , and now it sounds, ¿like heaven....?"

[vast barn]

To be fair I think price wise its fair to ask the price Wooting did. To me personally, its about the whole picture, good hardware, good looks, good software. Good things don't have to be cheap.

[humble cargo]

yeah and they constantly improve and listen to user feedback, you can tell they actually care about making products they like themselves and as good as it can be, not just what they reckon will sell the maximum amount of units

[half flume]

one of the youtubers did a latency test with different keyboards

[buoyant solstice]

I gave the 80HE a real gasket mount, and now my inputs are super inconsistent - [REAL] [UNCENSORED]

[silk hedge]

If he makes another wooden case istg

[thick lichen]

Yes, but then again. Let's say every reviewer has their own specialty. Hipyo is more on sound and feel. While maybe Optimum is mostly focussed on core performance and software.
It is good that each reviewer has their own side and way of reviewing, that way you can get better feedback in each specialty field.

[dire ruin]

I have a qustion: Does the 80he also have the ,,take control,, sign? and if not is it possible to buy it seperatly?

[half flume]

i believe optimum might’ve done it too

[buoyant solstice]

It does not. 🙂

[hybrid birch]

do you have a few examples as to what kind of elements could change?

[upbeat berry]

isnt hyp a 75% lover?

guess just salty its 80 not 75

[half flume]

worst format tbh

[proud oracle]

i have no clue tbh im not a huge follower of his

[delicate relic]

hipyotech so mean to wooting 😦

[half flume]

i have a 75 rn and can’t wait to not use it

[dense ridge]

@thick lichenwhat difference will be there?

[half flume]

small right shift is bad

[dense ridge]

or could be?

[humble cargo]

doubt it will impact sales much though, actually gaming-oriented channels praises the thing

[worn compass]

I agree, bug reason I dislike 65 and 75

[proud oracle]

his demeanor is very triggering tbf but that's just my opinion on his content

[thick lichen]

We still have to gather more info on what happens with the first batch. Overall things seem to be pretty good. But points like let's say, the scratches on white zinc alloy that Hipyo mentioned. It is something we could investigate and see if we can find coatings that might do a better job.

[valid comet]

any word with black zinc paint?

[floral fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/bateau-suez-ever-given-evergreen-canal-gif-21406192

[thick lichen]

I can confirm the durability is better on the black zinc. Since it uses a different process then the white zinc case. But this process isn't available for white cases.

[flint junco]

its in hipyos video the black one wont have that problem

[dense ridge]

@thick lichennot only scratches.. also led bar.. i have sproken with 6 guys maybe and at least 4 of them has dots like this on their led bars

[proud oracle]

i think this has a very easy fix

[sage ore]

every time he talks about gaming i regret having ears

[vast barn]

Yea agreed. He's usually quite decent about his reviews, but this was just straight up mean for no particular reason.

[valid comet]

ok i should be ok then

[buoyant solstice]

Grain of dust on the diffuser?

[thick lichen]

Yeah this is a speckle from the silicone. This is communicated with the factory.
You can open up the case, and screw off the LED bar and remove it and re-insert it again.

[valid comet]

i hope the white zinc cases for the bought units will be ok!

[thick lichen]

It might be a bit sketchy to open it up, but there is definitely a fix for it without RMA required.

[dense ridge]

@thick lichen i think that that dot is on plastic.. its not in

[coarse crest]

Gotta wait for him to pour some sand for maximum thocc

[snow canyon]

Opinions on some of the videos using the white keycaps on the black case

[buoyant solstice]

I can only speak from personal experience. I pulled every single keycap and switch from my white zinc last night, and I cannot find a single scratch anywhere.

[merry umbra]

Lots of people going for the Ghost plastic case, looks weird

[proud oracle]

calling us crazy for preferring a HE switch to a mechanical switch is criminal 💀

[dense ridge]

@thick lichen more seems like a defect on matte coating of that bar

[fleet forge]

man. dude writes 80he is mid in his thumbnail and then proceeds to completely shit on it

[snow canyon]

also seems like he used the old/different keycap puller?

[thick lichen]

We will definitely forward the feedback and investigate it.

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah he used a traditional wire puller.

[valid comet]

with a metal one or the PCR ABS puller?

[pseudo parrot]

i was quite rough with mine as well when removing keycaps. used both a wire pulle and the puller. mine's pristine

[proven hearth]

ruh roh

[snow canyon]

thats what we talking about rn lmao

[verbal solar]

nani

[buoyant solstice]

I used the püller, to make sure it could handle the pressure. Pulled both of my 80HE boards switches out to be spring swapped.

[weary wren]

Welcome to 1 hour ago

[verbal solar]

his skill gaped

[snow canyon]

why are you flagged as spammer 💀

[sly ravine]

I just saw two reviews of this board and it doesnt look good somehow I thoguth the keyboard will be crazy good

[proven hearth]

i just got home lol

[thick lichen]

I don't even lol

[floral fractal]

woah since when does discord hide messages from "likely spammer"

[proud oracle]

bro expected the 80he to solve the US economy crisis ☠️

[sage ore]

@thick lichen while youre here i wanted to ask if you guys are planning to add mouse scroll up/down as a possible bind for the keyboard?

[proven hearth]

💀

[midnight iron]

yeah what did homeless do lol

[snow canyon]

[midnight iron]

i've never seen someone flagged like this before

[proven hearth]

me neither

[floral fractal]

if they are from the US then being homeless is already a big enough crime here

[proud oracle]

prolly got heavily reported in another server and it carries with the account

[thick lichen]

I will share it with the software boys 😄

[hushed sinew]

I can take a look

[weary wren]

I wanted to ask about KNOB

[thick lichen]

I don't know much about upcoming software features 😛

[proud oracle]

also can we all just enjoy that all of us typing in this channel are making very cute mechanical/HE switch sounds?

[buoyant solstice]

[upbeat berry]

no such thing. now please look here while i put on my sunglasses

[hushed sinew]

[floral fractal]

butterfly 😦

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-agent-k-figment-of-your-imagination-neuralyzer-mib-gif-7763596499493619120

[lapis dawn]

what is mouse control

[marsh axle]

if I want to edit something on a preorder like swapping from zinc to plastic case would I still keep the founder stuff?

[fleet forge]

wdym. im not

[upbeat pumice]

in randomfrankp's video the ghost case looks really good, i'M starting to like it more and more

[proud oracle]

im excited for the frost case reviews man

[fleet forge]

wdym. he only games on pc

[floral fractal]

[proud oracle]

cs 2 on console

[buoyant solstice]

It looks great. I love the old version with the black specks - Shame that wasn't a popular vote.

[keen sand]

I love how he's still not happy

[worn compass]

Any Idea when wootility V5 will be fully out?

[sage ore]

scroll up and down is used to weapon swap in alot of games for example in Naraka its faster than the actual keyboard bind

[proud oracle]

same

[pliant quarry]

i dont understand why he says he tested he, mechanical and optical keyboards and then shows the 80he when he says optical and says "this is definitely one of them" i feel like he just rushed that or smth

[lapis dawn]

but you scrool on mouse not on keyboard

[proven hearth]

im about to start watching it

[buoyant solstice]

When it's done basically. Suffice to say time ran out a bit, so we had to replan the release and cut some features and polish to make sure 80HE owners had a Wootility that they could use properly.

[pliant quarry]

keep my comment in mind when you do

[proud oracle]

im convinced he wanted his review to stand out since 95% of reviewers are gonna put out positive reviews

[fleet forge]

got thousands of hours in csgo val and league

[humble cargo]

yeah the ghost looks so good I was tempted to change my order to it, but that would push my delivery back further so... no

[lapis dawn]

im about to cry bro is already 3/4 days to pack

[thick lichen]

Ayooo Tom also here. I mean perhaps. But to bash someone based on the way he reviewed. Everybody does it in their own ways, and we just see what we can do to solve certain issues someone has with it.

[worn compass]

Thanks Mansen, can’t wait to see the full release someday. Looks really promising so far

[proven hearth]

i did say he was gonna call out the case being plastic for 200 +1 point

[frank pulsar]

i still gatta wait till november 😢

[proud oracle]

you're paying for the technology not the plastic (satire)

[lapis dawn]

but u secound batch me 1

[sage ore]

true but some people prefer using a keyboard since the wooting is more reliable, scroll wheels are often one of the first things to break on a mouse

[jovial patio]

that was a good call out paying 200 for a keyboard to arrive after months sadge

[floral fractal]

Everybodys subject to their own opinions, and you cant always please everyone. Having differing opinions on your product is good because it invites improvement and potential oversights

[merry umbra]

The reason why i think Hypio was so "rude" making this review is:
1- Wooting #1 gaming, if he make a strong/impactful review he would get lots off engagement.
2- One thing that he clearlys dont understand is that Wooting is made for gaming, otherwise he wouldnt be that rude on the review. He would give suggestions about touch and sound improvements that could be made.

My question:
Why he is criticizing so much the sound and touch effects when thats not the "main" focus of wooting. But as Sander said its a "area" they are looking to improve.
It's the same as criticizing a Ferrari for not being as comfortable as a Rolls Royce

[floral fractal]

So yeah bad reviews are actually good reviews

[fleet forge]

it seems his main issue was the build quality compared to the price, seeing as there are 100$ kbs out there whos quality (feel) are a lot better. the whole review kinda boiled down to this in every 2nd sentence of his arguments

[steep badger]

Mine is finally in production 🙂

[dense ridge]

@thick lichen so what can i do with that ledbar? i have 1 inside but there are also a few small dots on coating of that matte plastic...

[frank pulsar]

hes clueless to the issues the cheaper keyboards have with rapid trigger

[proven hearth]

i just saw it LMAO

[spring oar]

october is just around the corner, then 1 more month before november

[merry umbra]

Thats the way to growup

[sage ore]

when i didnt use RT in Naraka it felt like i was playing with actual input delay

[frank pulsar]

i got the same delivery time as u

[thick lichen]

Best to reach out to our customer service [e-mail]. Not sure if we have replacement parts as of now. But I bet we would send a replacement bar in this case.

[fleet forge]

that wasnt the point of the argument. his point was you pay 200 or 300 bucks and qualitywise they feel badly (according to him)

[rancid sable]

cheaper boards also have calibration issues

[buoyant solstice]

It's also just.... FUN
I remember when the Wooting One came out and I could suddenly move around in Overwatch 1 with analog movement fully. It made playing characters like Lucio a ton of fun, from the added control 😄

[steep badger]

are the reviews up now?

[snow canyon]

yes

[buoyant solstice]

Some are. A handful of the ones we sent boards to.

[snow canyon]

Hi Tom

[karmic canyon]

once i get the tracking link, the estimated delivery on hub is gone. am i to refer solely on the tracking link for when i will get my parcel now? searching postnl website tells me itll take 4-8 days to deliver to my country so i guess ill be getting it much earlier than the hubs earliest estimated 3 oct

[frank pulsar]

yeah there are a lot

[steep badger]

Alright. I’ll check out a few.

[lapis dawn]

but how is it possible to put scroll on keyboard

[thick lichen]

Oh yeah for sure it benefits you. That is obvious. Why the 60HE went so popular. If it was fake or not noticable, nobody would of bought it or gave it glowing reviews 😛

[buoyant solstice]

Ultimately the hub is just making an educated guess based on the average delivery time of the chosen courier and destination. The estimate that the courier provides will be the more accurate one, since they're the ones making the delivery.

[sage ore]

for example like this

[vast barn]

Btw, until when do I have if I wanted to make changes (I'm in second batch)? I'm seriously doubting now to pick the Ghost case instead of the black one...

[floral fractal]

Whos the courier for the US?

[verbal solar]

I added 1 person after getting 1 day restricted for adding 5 people

[thick lichen]

Whatever look you prefer really 😛

[snow canyon]

prolly UPS

[fleet forge]

any reason for that?

[verbal solar]

and yet no founder perks v.v

[snow canyon]

theres restriction for adding people?

[steady escarp]

why does this guy get marked as likely spammer looool

[lapis dawn]

wtf is that

[sour saddle]

Why the hell is he hating this keyboard from the beginning through the end wtf

[fleet forge]

bro homeless is tagged as a spammer

[spring oar]

@verbal solar I feel bad for you

[vast barn]

I just picked black initially, but the parts being visible has grown on me.

[worn compass]

This channel hasn’t been this active since wooting put up the poll for socd

[midnight iron]

that is the one odd thing about his review re: the rapid trigger stuff too. He gave the old 'it's only a few ms' different from rapid trigger vs. no rapid trigger. But we know rapid trigger is measurably something like a 20ms advantage in stopping time

[sage ore]

its the drunkdeers software and the arrows are the mouse scroll direction you can just bind them to the keyboard its rly useful

[dense ridge]

@thick lichenwhat there can be changed in 3rd batch? improvements in sound etc?

[nocturne night]

same vibe back with 60he, i just dont think he likes hall effect

[keen sand]

I think its really interesting because he seems to have a very specific idea of what is nice in a keyboard and that goes against half the rest of the keyboard youtubers completely and also most of the rest generally

[thick lichen]

Sound will be as is. Unless we make an overhaul with new switches, which isn't the case. (as of now atleast)

[kindred coral]

L60 V3

[pliant quarry]

i dont know either, but he also says he scratches the zinc case fairly easy but removes the scratches with a magical eraser, imo then its not a scratch because you can remove it and it seems more like a coat of the other object rubbing onto it. Though he mentioned that he talked to calder about it and he confirmed it

[midnight iron]

20ms is a pretty dam big advantage as people who play online games know and can honestly feel from rapid trigger. Just don't get it really

[rancid sable]

and that’s his preference. He probably doesn’t use Rapid Trigger and HE boards as often because he prefers other switches for the sound and feel. I respect that

[thick lichen]

I can agree Lekker V2's are good, but they are not the best. Church of the RAW HE's exists for a reason haha

[merry umbra]

Like Sander said, he prefers sound and touch above anything else

[midnight iron]

See you guys can all be happy members of the geon raw he church.

[mystic pasture]

Raw HEs vs Magnetic Jade?

[vast barn]

Do you know when the deadline is to make changes when you are in second batch?

[rancid sable]

my Jade Max arrive next week so I’m hoping those are even better

[mystic pasture]

I ordered with magnetic jade but saw raw he and jade pro

[nocturne night]

yea and thats totally fair, just means that he probably isnt the correct reviewer to be watching if you want hall effect

[thick lichen]

Also Tom I had a lil note on your article. I can DM on Discord or Twitter if you'd like

[steady escarp]

raw clears

[upbeat pumice]

there are a lot of new diffrent switches coming out, if you care a lot about the sound and feel it's worth it to check them out at least

[sage ore]

i hope theres going to be a good tactile switch at some point

[rancid sable]

sure yeah DM me

[thick lichen]

Jade Pro's are similar to Geon RAW HE's. So I expect the Maxes to be pretty good

[vast barn]

I just picked black version initially, but the parts being visible has grown on me. It's something else then what you normally see

[sour saddle]

I mean it's marketed as an gasket mount, but it clearly doens't look like one so why is he so angry about it xD

[spring oar]

20ms can be life or death in rhythm game

[keen sand]

But he likes a specific sound and touch, like idk if you've ever played with fidget toys but literally everyone likes individual things

[merry umbra]

Thats why this review was so bad, he made criticism where he should make suggestions to improve

[humble cargo]

poorly informed criticism at that

[merry umbra]

Wooting is still improving and developing the sound and touch

[keen sand]

Something I saw in another review was that some of the wooting 80s are a little tight and need to be loosened at the top for the gaskets to be effective

[tight cliff]

Just make some silent switches and i'm happy

[thick lichen]

Sent on Discord

[thorny python]

I just got the ghost version delivered today, looks great!

[verbal solar]

yup, even when I had 100 € nitro

[snow canyon]

like for friend list or on a server? 💀

[thick lichen]

No clue really. Second batch is much bigger so I expect it to be a bit more easier to swap? But it is just best to reach out asap if you want it. As customer service is a bit busy now.

[mystic pasture]

Should I cancel Magnetic Jade and go RAW He

[slate zenith]

bro does not know what hes talking about

[thick lichen]

In all honesty, I feel like RAW HEs are better.

[vast barn]

Thanks for the answer. I will think about it some more. I guess I still have some time to decide since delivery is still +/- 2 months away for me

[thick lichen]

Jades are more clacky, so if you like that. It might be the best option. I have a sound test on our channel.

[worn prairie]

I think I found the most dumb review so far

[upbeat pumice]

there is a small youtuber who does a lot of switch tests with his wooting his name is MikeyTypes, check him out

[mystic pasture]

like the thocky mfers

[keen sand]

We are all chatting about it 😄

[proven hearth]

yeah

[proven hearth]

he changed the thumbnail?

[thick lichen]

Take the time you need. Better to receive something later you actually stand behind, then get something you regret. 😉

[uncut dock]

What did he say ?

[slate zenith]

different thumbnail for me too

[shrewd ridge]

I only now noticed that i need to confirm my address LUL

id already have my board xd

[warm anvil]

Hipyo has never been the best lol

[worn prairie]

Probably has 2 thumbnails, YouTube added that feature

[keen sand]

Hipyo is interesting

[queen vigil]

Everyoine is entitled to their opinions but istg Hipyo is just kinda biased against wooting for some reason. I'd noticed it before as well.

[white dock]

There Is A/B/C thumbnail testing for youtube, he has 3 different thumbnails

[keen sand]

Interesting doesn't feel like it is useful

[warm anvil]

Probably not sponsored like a lot of his reviews

[hybrid birch]

if I don't know much about keyboard sound and feel, would I notice a difference between RAW HE and Lekkers?

[white dock]

he mad he couldnt mod the 60he and win in his competition lol

[warm anvil]

Every short I get from him is just a sponsored keyboard “review”

[proven hearth]

200 for a plastic case, 300 for metal

[warm anvil]

My sponsor asus sent me this keyboard!

[proven hearth]

yeah no his 60he mod was pretty bad 💀

[worn prairie]

Did you see the keyboards he suggested at the end? Probably sponsors

[fleet forge]

i mean when he reviewed the 60he he also said he couldnt notice a difference with rappy snappy. i respect him as a keyboard guy but with wooting hes been missing the mark for years

[neat cloud]

Did u watch his ASUS keyboard review

[thick lichen]

The Geon RAW HE's do hit the bottom, so the bottom out feels a tad bit harder. But the sound (in my opinion) is nicer and less stem wobble if you mind that.

[white dock]

imo this is a very steep price, atleast you get what you pay for in customer and software support though. its kinda like buying from logitech or razer

[warm anvil]

I cba even watching his reviews lol he’s legit not worth wasting the time on

[queen vigil]

when I watched his "review" on the 60 and two He just completely glossed over the software and hardware advantages compared to other keyboards and basically just prodded at the stock keycaps and plastic case

[keen sand]

I do think the big take from the hipyo review is the lekker2 is much better but still not as good as they could be and that takes 23 minutes to drag out

[queen vigil]

which I thought was fine if you didn't care for things like that but afor nan unbiased review you should at least mention it for the viewers

[slate zenith]

yea like clearly the features wooting offers don't appeal to him, but you can't give a bad review just because you're not the target market for the product

[shrewd ridge]

Its interesting he doesnt notice difference with rapid trigger but everyone i know that actually plays games and are good at them say its a huge difference

[cunning stag]

Bishop, I ordered raw he on 15th but still no fulfilled? Give some holy water to blessing please 🙏

[keen sand]

I wonder when lekker 3 will be a thing

[white dock]

Wooting also offers ISO layouts which very few companys offer

the ISO layouts are a big selling point for me

[keen sand]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[spark hound]

JIS even

[midnight iron]

do not worry. God provides raw he to those who wait

[fleet forge]

the main point he is making that for the high price the quality is lacking. id say that is a very valid argument if its true especially since there are much cheaper boards out there with better quality according to him

[midnight iron]

but in all seriousness it's not fulfilled because it's koreans thanksgiving 3 day holiday type thing

[thick lichen]

Jed be wololo'in everybody to the raw he's

[queen vigil]

those cheapoer boards arent hall effect idk

[midnight iron]

tomorrow is the first day back to work for koreans since friday

[neat cloud]

U should probably watch his ASUS keyboard review as he does reviews the same way he did for wootings keyboard

[warm anvil]

I feel like you can’t say that while ignoring the selling point of the keyboard

[keen sand]

You're paying for technology at the top of the field, not necessarily materials

[icy cosmos]

I am wondering about the built quality he is talking about. The only way to find out is to buy one that tops his chart and compare it

[fleet forge]

he named a couple HEs that were cheaper and better quality in his opinion materialwise

[white dock]

yes, tbh i would have liked it to be aluminium for 200 euro, some other boards do it for 100 with heavy weights in the back and designs aswell, but they cheap out in alot of other things.

[midnight iron]

Honestly I really should have a raw he affiliate link. I could have used the commissions to buy more raw he switches to complete the cycle

[warm anvil]

The asus thing was just an example, but every single time I see a short from him it’s just my sponsor X sent me this!

[queen vigil]

fair enough then

[icy cosmos]

Or just start a YouTube channel with focus on HE

[humble cargo]

same I don't want to make up some bastard custom layout for ansi and retrain 30+ years of muscle memory

[thick lichen]

You'd have a year supply atleast

[fleet forge]

he for sure didnt review the points that we care about when we chose to buy this kb but his points could still be legit

[sour saddle]

He is just a mediocre reviewer, a lot of bias, a lot of sponsored vids, and so much into his gasket mounted thocky-creamy-clacky world, that he can't accept the good stuff out there, which is clearly not for office workers. And doesn't he make any drama about the WHOPPING $500 TAG of the ASUS Keyboard (sponsered too btw). He just said it's a "little" overpriced lmao

[jagged moat]

Now here iam scrolling through Hipyos video about the "Bad" (its not, bec then i wouldnt have bought it) 80 HE Keyboard and then i get to this reply of him and i am asking myself when did i ever see a Wooting AD about the New 80HE Keyboard and when did they ever made agressiv Gaming Marketing

[cunning stag]

Good to hear

[keen sand]

Like how many hall effect keyboards bottom out at .2mm or have inaccurate sensors that can't detect accurately?

[pastel edge]

defo should, convinced me to get some

[thick lichen]

Oh wait. A year supply is just 90 pieces lol

[white dock]

idk why but i like my shift key small, i dont have to worry about wonky stabilizers

[thick lichen]

Doesn't work the same heh.

[humble cargo]

same, works fine for gaming and I like the extra key between it and z for various binds and fn functions

[midnight iron]

honestly i thought of making a wooting resource site similar to what I did in WoW with making the rogue faq content and cheatsheets, but wasn't sure if I had the time with having to restart my other youtube soon

[pliant quarry]

https://www.twitch.tv/tenz/clip/SuperBlitheChowderDansGame-couLU9NiBwnXZy07?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

[humble cargo]

also b i g e n t e r

[upbeat pumice]

i noticed today that EU-Brug is changed to 'mass production', did this happen today?

[jagged moat]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[warm anvil]

“Insecurities”

[shrewd ridge]

only ''marketing'' iv ever seen is the reviews from ppl like optimum tech/ haus gaming

[spring oar]

A couple days ago

[warm anvil]

Wooting doesn’t say you will magically become the goat

Or you’re bad without this

[icy cosmos]

Sounds like a new year resolution. 2025 make it happen

[sour saddle]

2-3 Days ago

[humble cargo]

so he's basically admitting he's biased against wooting over their marketing

[keen sand]

Honestly I love the idea of mad science of hall effect

It feels so space age

[sage ore]

he knows

[vale palm]

I wonder does black zinc alloy get scratches too?

[buoyant solstice]

I mean if that IS the case that's... also fine? That just means if we do get positive feedback, that means we've won him over on something

[slate zenith]

I think he's salty cuz he's still silver

[cold hill]

to be fair, I did not buy this for the the HE. i bought this for the good software, wootomation and just to tinker with it

[upbeat pumice]

tbf i think there's quite a lot of people who think that a wooting board and xyz mouse will lead them to the life of becoming the next s1mple

[humble cargo]

it does make it a bit harder to take his other opinions about the board seriously since it appears to come from a place of prejudice

[warm anvil]

That’s survival of the fittest unfortunately

[dark cargo]

Guys I opened up wooting review and the first one said ITS MID !

[pliant quarry]

man of culture right there. Im not sure if I like my white zinc alloy case choice now since the black really looks awesome with that red led

[thick lichen]

Okay the scratches on the paint of the white zinc alloy is actually from the metal wire puller

[shrewd ridge]

Optimum tech gets much closer to the tryhard gamer region and Haus literally played professionally,
I do like watching hipyos videos they are well made and he often does make alot of good points on more budget oriented keyboards,
BUT when it comes to competitive gaming hes like the most casual bot i can think of

[jagged moat]

I mean we all can Agree that we will Dislike Hipyos 80HE Video because he is obviosly not knowing what he is talking about

[fleet forge]

in the video itself he says that wootings gaming marketing is very tam lol

[scenic igloo]

he's in a tough spot - 1 mil subs and has to constantly crank out keyboard related content

[shrewd ridge]

also the dot is not working on my ducky now XD i need my wooting

[thick lichen]

I tried rubbing hard on the case with my plastic puller. No visible marks.

[buoyant solstice]

Sure - But at the end of the day there's no such thing as an unbiased reviewer. It's just a question of being able to filter out personal opinion with "objective" differences and make your own mind up on something.

[scenic igloo]

run out of stuff eventually and need to drive engagement so why not stir the pot?

[fleet forge]

well the main reason people dislike it here is cz its negative and we are 200-400€ deep into this purchase

[thick lichen]

This basically

[buoyant solstice]

Mr. Hip clearly isn't a fan of the "limitations" (or realities) of HE switches, so you kind of have to take anything he says there with a grain of salt. You can't get a wibbly wobbly gasket mount, cause that just breaks the sensor.

[humble cargo]

yep, like I said earlier I don't think his review will impact sales that much either way because he's squarely catering towards custom keyboard folks, you're catering to both them and gamers so some compromises needs to be made

[jagged moat]

Yeah but still he is just Trolling around with his videos and his Comments or replys are all Unlogivly

[thick lichen]

So aslong you don't use a cheeky metal puller or any metal objects you should be good.

[waxen turret]

Hello, a small question? Is it known when the 80HE design files will be available on Github?

[humble cargo]

gamers looking for ultimate performance will be very hard pressed to find things to nitpick

[scenic igloo]

butter knife ok?

[thick lichen]

But I do have to mention, the USB-C cable is made of metal. So be careful with plugging it in 😉

[shrewd ridge]

Also dont get white peripherals in general if ur at all messy xd

[sleek finch]

waiting for that NA-champion ping

[fleet forge]

man idk if i can do that. i love rubbing soft metals on my keyboards

[warm anvil]

Real.

[thick lichen]

Use it as a cutting board lmao

[pliant quarry]

thats exactly what i thought when he said in the review that its removing the paint like how tf do you "rebuild" the paint with a magic eraser but he even mentioned that calder or someone of you guys CONFIRMED that so i think thats actually a very bad lead there of him saying you even confirmed the damage to the zinc alloy case ....

[buoyant solstice]

Two weeks later in Youtube shorts
MAKING PIZZA WITH YOUR ZINC CASE

[fleet forge]

you know if i had a zinc one id make a video doing that

[sage ore]

i got the ghost case for now but ngl the black zinc one looks more and more tempting

[cold hill]

I do understand that, but honestly if even my mouse touching my keyboard gonna left a mark even tho not permanent, the white is not for me. but god damn is the raw case sexy

[opal apex]

this sounds amazing, is this lekker v2?

[quiet lynx]

I need more reviews with the ghost case

[kindred coral]

Tenz said its completely stock, so yes it is

[quiet lynx]

I barely saw it in whatsmacalleds video

[pliant quarry]

he said l60 v2

[thick lichen]

So far, I bashed my mouse against my board like atleast 5 times probably. No visible marks so far.

[opal apex]

considering whether to get lekker, geon raw or dash ones

[humble cargo]

real chads go for the raw zinc and any scuffs or marks on it is just adding character

[quiet lynx]

okay that's it you're going to see a psychiatrist

[thick lichen]

But we will see once more people receive it how it will be.

[fluid stump]

question at my german folks are there any nice iso keycap sets one can pick up that are compatible with the 80HE jet ?

[white dock]

zync and aluminium are both a 2.5 on mohs scale of hardness, they should both scratch against the same things the same.

[cold hill]

good to know tbh

[buoyant solstice]

Any? All? Just want to make sure they have german QWERTZ I guess?

[midnight iron]

there is no need to consider. Choose the path of righteousness. Choose the raw he path.

[opal apex]

HAHA

[slate zenith]

my current 60he has the magnetic jade switches and I'm curious to see how the Lekker60 V2s compare when my 80he arrives :)

[thick lichen]

I am just a silly man who forgets to shove my keyboard to the side. So while gaming I tend to bump it and remind myself to put it a bit to the side lol

[fleet forge]

guys for 300 bucks you coulda made the keyboard out of unobtanium..

[opal apex]

but its better to get the module right?

[midnight iron]

well I bought module because I didn't want switches or keycaps, it just depends on what you're buying

[upbeat pumice]

i ordered ANSI after 20+ years of using ISO-DE, mostly becausei want to get whatever keycaps i want

[fluid stump]

true XD

[pliant quarry]

https://www.twitch.tv/tenz/clip/WealthyComfortableCookieDoggo-qIadQ1ULdpx8G6HL

[opal apex]

now use a knife :DD

[white dock]

zync or abs?

[cold hill]

thank you for that

[tight cypress]

White Zinc Alloy

[summer fiber]

[opal apex]

huh? haha

[zealous oak]

There is only white Zinc, not pcr version of it

[rancid ridge]

w the gpx LOL

[fluid stump]

yeah i made the mistake and orderd iso cause i didnt know enough about keycaps at that point and i really dont want to delay me gatting a new shiny keyboard an more so yeah im kinda stuck with iso now XD

[white dock]

i mean, thats pretty obvious, plastic wont scratch zinc

[pliant quarry]

sorry im too stupid to copy links

[thick lichen]

Yeah with plastic you seem pretty safe overall

[lime falcon]

[midnight iron]

what if dog fur causes scratching. Rub your dog against the keyboard and record it for us to be safe

[small nest]

Titan 80HE when?

[snow canyon]

💀

[thick lichen]

I got a JRIS75 keyboard with a white e-coated case. Same with that one. Metal just shows it clearly, plastic no issues.

[dark cargo]

Maybe he got a defective one

[warm anvil]

Ok now with a starlight

[slate zenith]

worst feeling is seeing a cool keycap set and they don't have an iso kit 😭

[zealous oak]

I'm completely sold with Hipyo's review, I'm going to ask for a refund /JK

[snow canyon]

respect++

[fluid stump]

yeah ive been having that A LOT as i looked for sets XD

[icy cosmos]

Na he is a budget friendly, value type of guy. He’s not into custom stuff nor the high end.

[opal apex]

thank you 😄

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-gif-11163798864566121593

[upbeat pumice]

Ich werde die große Enter-taste aber vermissen 😦

[opal apex]

hahaha

[snow canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-floppity-flip-wgat-whar-gif-16267048566435146304

[humble cargo]

big enter is love, big enter is life

[lime falcon]

Joe clearly knows what his talking about, unlike hipyo

[white dock]

just get this smh

[small nest]

Just buy a gmk set if you want iso xD

[fluid stump]

fänd ich tatsächlich gar nicht so wild die größere shift taste wäre eig sogar besser für mich aber naja jz is es etwas zu spät XD

[nocturne night]

i think he had a few valid arguments but hes review was mostly nonsense imo

[white dock]

i mean atleast 3 things he complained about are just nonsense, the rest is personal preference.

[fluid stump]

will probably do
well then lets go spend hundreds of € on keycaps

[icy cosmos]

It depends on what perspective you’re coming from. It’s like putting a petrol head in an EV, then complaining about engine sounds

[worn compass]

Gonna need this for whenever I trash talk in video games

[small nest]

i bought also one for the 80he bc no keycaps on my order

[zealous oak]

Yes, furthermore he complaint about the price and proceeds to put a 100 gmk set on the keyboard, like wtf dude be coherent with your whole point

[waxen turret]

I think he made it only for Drama, the points are kind of valid but hugely exaggerated.
And I'm sort of a Hippio fan.

[fluid stump]

oh nice
which one did u get ?

[slate zenith]

gotta love spending the extra 40 on an international kit only to use 2-3 keycaps from it

[small nest]

gmk jis

[nocturne night]

i like hipyo too, but his hall effect reviews are just not there, its like he doesnt understand the technology and its pros and cons

[grizzled cedar]

??

[fluid stump]

yeah....
i kinda regret being german right know and not having done my research properly bevorehand XD

[steep badger]

He just cares about how creamy or thocky keyboards can get.

[dark cargo]

Guys after watching hipyos tech review, I’ve come to the conclusion to BUY THE WHITE ZINC ALLOY CASE

[tight cypress]

Yeah, I just showed how it can be easily broken

[lime falcon]

Probably sending early samples is a bad decision, this is the result of it

[sullen sand]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-torches-and-pitchforks-gif-881036690393041921

[waxen turret]

He does not like HE and is more like a Mechanical switch fan. And also very focused on Writing.

[sullen sand]

So where does this Hipyo guy live?

[lime falcon]

I know who stole optimums package, it was hipyo

[steep badger]

Were the reviewers given final production models?

[scenic igloo]

probably Seattle

[real torrent]

Hipyo’s review was spot on. I have not used my 60HE in ages. It’s gathering dust. Will probably sell it. You don’t NEED Hall effect switches

[humble cargo]

nah optimum just spending more than 30 minutes with the board before writing his hit piece

[sullen sand]

I'm kidding

[waxen turret]

Yes, most bought them like us

[humble cargo]

[lime falcon]

hes busy building robots to measure latency and stuff

[tight cypress]

AFAIK yes, first produced keyboards from the first batch

[wary abyss]

Why are you even here?

[waxen turret]

I like the writing feel of my Q1 HE

[sour saddle]

wdym

[lime falcon]

lmfao

[sullen sand]

No surprise the custom modding scene not a fan of the keyboard, they are mechanical purists 🙂

[buoyant solstice]

I mean that's fair - But you don't NEED anything really. It's a thing you might WANT though.

[lime falcon]

average hipyo viewer right there

[humble cargo]

you don't need a computer either, you can get by fine with a smartphone and a bluetooth keyboard these days

[nocturne night]

i dont need running shoes to run, but it sure damn is nice

[icy cosmos]

He is coherent in his own way if you think about it.

[sullen sand]

Or grass

[sour saddle]

what would you have wanted to know before you ordered?

[stable ravine]

yeah im honestly a little salty towards hipyo, i made the decision not to get a 60HE a few months ago specifically because of his review and i fixed that decision by ordering the 80HE after i watched optimums review where he explains how rapid trigger actually works and how its beneficial

[lime falcon]

Etiko is hipyos burner account chat

Chill

[humble cargo]

but a hall effect keyboard makes gaming and using my computer overall more enjoyable and fun

[buoyant solstice]

Etiko spelled backwards is Ok Ite. I'm not sure what that means, but it's right there.

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[waxen turret]

Do you know when we get the design files for the 80HE. They are not on Github, yet 😦

[buoyant solstice]

I do not. But I have asked for an update internally. 🙂

[tight cypress]

Any day now

[real torrent]

Hipyo made a very valid point: you’ll probably never be good enough in your game for HE to make a difference, so why not daily drive a better keyboard with better switches? It’s pretty much what I’ve been doing

[cold hill]

for me its the software. like most sotfware for keyboard even of big companies is big MEEEH

[nocturne night]

my name spelled backwards is xirhkc, so uhh thats gotta be code for something

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/they-know-mccoys-bird-seagul-gif-11341286

[sullen sand]

I really don't think there's any standout software for any keyboard... other than Wooting

[stable ravine]

because competitive FPS games arent the only use case for it. rapid trigger is super helpful in rhythym games

[humble cargo]

because I like the features and functions hall effect gives me

[tight cypress]

HE makes a huge difference for me
I use DKS and gamepad bindings, mechanical keyboard can't do that

[upbeat pumice]

how many reputable case makers have asked you for design files? Asking for a friend...

[icy cosmos]

At this point, you know he’s fishing for engagement 🤣

[shrewd ridge]

Casual scrubs mightaswell 🙂

[humble cargo]

I don't care if it makes me a better gamer or not, its just a fun user experience

[fluid stump]

the fact that its pretty hard to find keycaps sets for the iso de layout in comparison to ansi and just the overall smaller pool of keycaps with this layout option in gerneral

[humble cargo]

and has a lot of useful stuff outside gaming

[buoyant solstice]

I can't tell you. Answering as someone who works in customer service, not the product design team 😄

[cold hill]

exactly, like ok. there are some keyboards using the opensource app but i found it pain to use lol

[spring oar]

Adjustable actuation is what I really want, because I'm lazy to build a whole new keyboard that accuate at 3.5mm

[steep badger]

One thing that I don’t like about keyboard reviewers are people hating on north facing RGB lights. I have south facing ones on my keyboard and they blind me so I’ve had them off. And I miss the shine through keycaps.

[lime falcon]

youre clearly talking nonsense can you stop

[sour saddle]

Yeah but it's still nice to have the german letters and to have the ability not to spell ö or ä or ü like ue oe ae

[stable ravine]

like im not ordering a wooting because i think it'll make me a better gamer, tbh i play more singleplayer games these days lol

[buoyant solstice]

It's alright to have differing opinions people. 🙂

[neat wren]

thats in insane way to say you are bad at games...

[sullen sand]

Hipyo's line of "the main reason to buy this keyboard is SOCD" - bro doesn't realise SOCD wasn't a thing on keyboards during the founder's camptain 😂

[waxen turret]

Exactly this, and also the difference between the mechanical keyboard like the Leopold 750R is than you can game for longer without your hands getting tired.

[upbeat pumice]

DOn't talk to germans, problem solved

[sour saddle]

lmao

[pseudo parrot]

hall effect isn't for everyone, and thats okay

[sour saddle]

I need those letters xd

[sullen sand]

Open source is maybe ok for someone who likes code things and stuff but for your general user open source means nothing

[dark cargo]

they gotta make a hipyotech code for 50% off the white zinc alloy dude 🙂 !

[sour saddle]

And there is an decent amount of iso keycap sets

[tight cypress]

I believe in HE church, BURN THE INFIDELS

[waxen turret]

Hey, thats Rude, you offended my Umlaute

[sage ore]

HAHAHAH

[sour saddle]

I will keep it white anyways so I don't mind

[fluid stump]

also true...
man im just kinda torn apart...
but above all im super hyped to finally get my 80HE
will be my first new thing on my desk since a while
well except my deskmat but that another story

[pseudo parrot]

80he has made me retire my moonlander to put a perspective on how much i enjoy it

[lime falcon]

Wooting should release video about zinc alloy scratch test

[sullen sand]

Hipyo will release a video next week after he mods the keyboard, the title will be "I made the 80HE the thackiest, best keyboard in the world"

[upbeat pumice]

schuldigung broski

[cold hill]

for me it was pretty cool. made some of te features i missed and added it. but yeah they made an update and it Fd up my plugin so i just whent F it and found wooting by accident

[sour saddle]

You made the right descision don't feel too bad about it

[hearty sky]

He's so cringe.. forced hate on 80he

[grizzled cedar]

fr

[sullen sand]

This was all a rouse to make it look like he's good at modding but in reality he just bought RAWs and stuck them on

[tight cypress]

Plastic leaves no scratches
Keycap puller wire only leaves a trace, which can be easily wiped with finger

Wiped it down and my zinc case is pristine condition again

[fluid stump]

wir dürfen dabei auch nicht die kleine shift taste vergessen
....kleine tasten haben auch gefühle immerhin ist größe nicht alles
stimmts jungts ?

[lime falcon]

Yep, I know. Just to prove that hipyos copy had some issues

[tight cypress]

English

[grizzled cedar]

soo scratching the coating with my fingernails should leave no traces right?

[cunning stag]

I hoping to see if you scratch the paint，will it transfer to RaW

[sullen sand]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-bubbles-cold-beer-ice-cold-beer-need-a-beer-gif-14439755

[cold hill]

yes but without the UV coating

[icy cosmos]

Regarding the paint, I don’t know any keyboard makers that has special treatment on their paint or anodized surfaces. Or am I just a noobe?

[upbeat pumice]

See this is why using ISO-DE is overrated, everybody is just gonna get pissed at you

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/choose-choice-woke-up-chose-gif-23847919

[zealous oak]

I would like to ask the entire Wooting team if they agree with the comment Hipyo literally made in his video "Wooting's mission is to make HE the next standard switch for keyboards", because maybe he is completely wrong about that statement

[amber merlin]

Thats a violation of the TOS now ban

[fluid stump]

but ofc we cant forget the little tiny shift key exclusive to the iso de layout
...little keys also have feelings cause size is not everthing that matters... right guys ?
(for my english only buddys)

[ruby junco]

best test ever

[merry umbra]

You anger?

[buoyant solstice]

Please don't tag staff members out of the blue.

[grizzled cedar]

okay u convinced me to stay with white

[zealous oak]

Ok sorry

[tight cypress]

[merry umbra]

We need to send this to Hypio

[icy cosmos]

So fake… you need to put your back on it

[waxen turret]

Ich bin dafür dass wir alle ab sofort Deutsch sprechen, wer ist dabei?

[steep badger]

Any chance of partnering up with dbrand? Would be interesting to have keyboard skins.

[wary abyss]

Is this the beginning of your ASMR series of durability testing the zinc case?

[buoyant solstice]

Dbrand are US based. Unless they've added easier worldwide shipping, I don't see how well that would work. Also keyboards have a lot of angles. Difficult to apply a skin, rather than a full finish from factory.

[sour saddle]

Based question

[pseudo parrot]

pov: 80he undergoes military grade certification

[ruby junco]

for some reason my estimated delivery moved from mid december to late december in my order history - did that happen to anyone else?